Barrie Schwortz Exposes Jaw-Dropping New Evidence About the Shroud of Turin!

[@alistarschwortz2131]

I was lucky enough to have this man as my grandfather in my life. He was an amazing man with a lot of knowledge and many stories. He is loved ❤ and will be missed.

[@ellaw356]

I am so sorry for your loss. He was a very brave man. He chose to stand up for the truth against those who would have preferred him to be silent a long time ago. May God bring peace to your heart.

[@SpiralEyeZombie]

I'm so sorry for your loss. He seems to have been quite a stand-up guy. We are lucky to have had him.

[@gitanemenashe]

His research has profoundly enriched my life. I am forever grateful. What JOYOUS reunions await us in heaven!

[@tracyevans8977]

What an absolutely wonderful man, what a legacy. You must be so very very proud. We are so lucky to have had him too xx

[@HollyFegler-g6u]

I can only imagine. I have always thought Mr. Schwartz was a very special person. I know you were blessed.

[@taramilton8695]

Thank you for inviting Barrie onto your show Joe, what a most pleasant and knowledgeable person he is!

[@danatowne5498]

This was a fantastic interview! Thank God for old Jewish hippies (as he called himself)! I'm an old hippie myself and this kind of simple integrity was once pretty normal, believe it or not. Anyway, it was wonderful to see. I am very grateful to Barrie (and his cats) for all the work they do. Thank you so much for this.

[@SarumChoirmaster]

I met Barrie once in 2001 and he gave a lecture in the same hall that i used to teach choirs of kids at OLA, SATX. Just a few years ago, a 15 or 30 minute phone call with him, turned into 2.5 hours. He is a wonderful, genuine and very sincere soul. See you in heaven!

[@RuthOConnell-q6m]

To think that Barrie passed away only a few months after this interview. What a wonderful man.! Still advocating for the authenticity of the Shroud right until the end and still in top form! Thank you, Barrie. You will be missed.❤️

[@cycleSCUBA]

A highly respected authority on the Shroud who always applied scientific method. Barrie will be greatly missed.

[@beverlyhurd8556]

You know that Barrie is like this all the time? He is just so laid back and genuine. And super witty and friendly as well. Last August I met up with Barrie in Woodland Park Colorado for dinner. We both enjoy Mexican food, so we ate at one there that he liked. While over the years I had spent hours talking to Barrie about the Shroud, this time it was just free rein to chat about anything we wanted. His time in the Navy, his first photography studios in California. Cameras, film, previous marriages, kids, cars, even Mount Everest. When we talked over the phone it was always Shroud related. When we met for dinner, nothing was off limits. He gave me some pictures that he had taken of the Shroud back in 1978 (they are framed and on my wall now) and a book on the Shroud. Two hours of chat later spilled into the parking lot where we chatted for yet another hour. I did not want it to end. But end it had to so when we parted company, I shook his hand and felt such a thrill knowing that I was touching the hand of a man that touched the face of our Lord. The Mexican food that night was only OK, and the prices were high, but wow was it ever worth it to spend that much time with Barrie. I sure hope that I get to do it again someday. Wonderful experience it was indeed.

[@stevekanyon5765]

For all those who follow Barry Swartz, he passed away last weekend, I dont know any details, just live down the road from him and a neighbor told me.

[@beverlyhurd8556]

@@stevekanyon5765 This was his last email to me. One month before he died. I had sent him one earlier asking how he was doing as I heard that he was sick. Dear Bev, Not good. Kidney failure due to bone marrow cancer (leukemia). No cure. But my lungs are just fine! 😊 I quit smoking 6 weeks ago cold turkey. Keep me in your prayers. Barrie

[@PCHwy]

❤😅

[@alistarschwortz2131]

He did indeed he is missed an loved. I am very lucky to have had him as my grandfather ​@@stevekanyon5765

[@karenalexanderful]

So sad to hear of the death of Barrie Schwortz on June 21st 2024. This interview is wonderful. Thanks.

[@navymomfl7294]

The story of Barry's moms comments after his lecture was so insightful. Seems like a good and respectful man.

[@debramoss2267]

RIP Barry. Thank you for your huge gift to Humankind. I hope those who love Barry are comforted in their sorrows and the time when happy memories outweigh this sadness greets you soon. He is in the Promised Bliss, now. Love and blessings 🙏🏼

[@susanmoore1552]

“Billy Rubin” comment was hilarious! Thanks for such an uplifting interview.

[@TheWendybird123]

Pollen could naturally have been blown or alighted onto the linen cloth. Jesus was crucified at Passover, in the spring. Pollen could have been in the air everywhere. The pollen on the shroud comes from the area around Jerusalem! I live in the US South - my car just got washed yesterday, and today there is a new film of yellow pollen on the roof. Thanks for all your hard work and dedication, Barry. I'm convinced it's the real deal. Isn't the blood on the Sudarium the same blood type?

[@debramoss2267]

Yes and the wounds match up.

[@HolyDash]

Wow!! Thank you for conducting and posting this interview. What a treat.

[@KingJehovah]

Joe, this was a great interview with Brother Schwortz. You did phenomenally well in interviewing him, as he did in participating in the interview. The questions you chose for the interview were well thought out and his responses to such were interesting to hear. The presentation throughout the interview was timed well and natural. He's an awesome guy, really laid back, very cool, with a good sense of humor and great wit, and he has done a significant amount of work that has had the effect of promoting and protecting Christianity and refuting attacks on Christianity. I'm glad you had the opportunity to interview him and that you enjoyed doing so, and I am glad God chose him to do the work he has done and chose you to do this interview. I particularly liked some of his closing statements about the Shroud and it, in part, having a purpose to get people to ask questions about matters of faith and to think more deeply about such. God is unfathomably glorious, as is His Word, the Messiah, and the Shroud and the Messiah are more authentic than anything in the universe.

[@d.j.blackmore6793]

In around 1990 I read the book, THE SHROUD OF TURIN I had picked up with passing curiosity at a local library. After reading it, there was no doubt in my mind that it was the image of Jesus of Nazareth. A short time afterwards I was given a vision. and while I had never since witnessed anything supernatural either before or since, I know what I saw. Without setting out the details here, nothing anyone could say or do, would make me recant the details of that brief yet frightening spiritual experience.

[@savedbygrace6853]

Yup, when you know the Truth you truly are set free!

[@LawofMosesHere]

Ameb

[@leoandolino4668]

Such an interesting, honest, pleasurable man. Sorely missed. Thank you, Mr. Schwortz, for your wonderful work and many fascinating interviews over the years. You are a treasure, and your excellent work will never die.

[@waynesumner1829]

What a perfect interview, so thorough , honest, complete, authentic!

[@RitaMeterMaid99]

Great interview. Thanks. Barrie is an amazing fellow. Much gratitude to him for his respect, dedication & openness 👏🏻

[@gladyskravitzjr825]

I was able to visit The Shroud of Turin Museum in Alamogordo recently. I BELIEVE

[@FillYourHeadSwe]

Linen stripes and a facecover. Read the bible......

[@victoriabokanvsky2674]

Rome Pontifical University has a post graduate certificate program on the shroud. The coursework is all online. I must add their program is thorough, detailed, interdisciplinary and long. It’s not expensive and so worth it

[@marybwest4360]

So grateful to this humble honest man ,your interview is intriguing I love what Barrie’s mother said. I am convinced the shroud is real what a blessing to have this proof 🙏🏻💖🧾

[@MultiSky7]

1:26:27 .. The flowers (pollen) don't have to be a part of the burial ceremony to get onto the Shroud. It might have been brought through the air - by the wind. Second, that type of flowers are to be found only in Jerusalem area and they are blooming around April - May, i.e. the time of Passover.

[@cathypage6455]

Pollen and blossoms fall on my car in the spring. It probably got on the shroud or even on Jesus the same way.

[@AnHebrewChild]

What kind of flowers are they? Thnx

[@sliglusamelius8578]

When was the shroud in Jerusalem, do you know? There are faint images of the flowers on the cloth. Do you do details are do you ignore details? Because maybe you should investigate the details of those pollen and flower images. Details matter.

[@MultiSky7]

@@AnHebrewChild Check out dr. Max Grey. Pollen: e.g. Gundelia tournefortii, Zygophyllum dumosum, Cistus creticus, Capparis aegyptis

[@MultiSky7]

@@sliglusamelius8578 Golgotha is only a mile and a half away from Jerusalem. It didn't have to be in Jerusalem to get that pollen on it. The Shroud was taken from the tomb and (most likely) held in Masada before it fell. From there it got to the Europe (most likely by the templars)

[@AK5of8]

I love this guy. He did this for those of us who believe. Thanks Barry Schwortz!

[@nlaco-m1h]

Yes, and the earth is flat. There are people who believe...

[@AK5of8]

@@nlaco-m1h Follow the science on the Shroud and the shape of the earth.

[@les2997]

@@nlaco-m1h Medieval artists did not have the technology to impart the image on linen fibers. Some of the blood spots contain additional details that are visible only under UV radiation. There are many more details which would be hard to reproduce.

[@nlaco-m1h]

@@les2997 Don't bother trying to convince me of fairy tales Les. Im older than you, I've seen more, and I know better...

[@les2997]

@@nlaco-m1h I'm not young. There is no plausible way medieval forgers could have deliberately engineered such microscopic UV-visible traits onto the shroud fabric. The presence of these traits remains an unexplained mystery if the shroud is not the actual burial cloth of Jesus Christ,

[@sergioaguilar2908]

Great interview, i think the fact that until today we have no explanation how it was made play in favor on his autenticaty, we dont know how miracles are perform technically speaking, so this would be one great example

[@johnc.8298]

Check out physicist Isabel Piczek and the concept of "Event Horizon". She theorizes how the image was projected from within the body.

[@pgson8929]

I have watched quite alot of content from Barry over the years. I always think the same thing. What a genuine and lovely man. I have no doubt he was chosen by our Father for this job. May he be blessed. I hope he knows how appreciated he is.

[@wipo3654]

1 John 2 22 Who is a liar but he who denies that Jesus is the Christ [MESSIAH]? He is antichrist who denies the Father and the Son. 23 Whoever denies the Son does not have the Father either; he who acknowledges the Son has the Father also. John 3 18He who believes in Him is not condemned; but he who does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. 36He who believes in the Son has everlasting life; and he who does not believe the Son shall not see life, but the wrath of God abides on him.”

[@pgson8929]

Therefore be merciful, just as your Father also is merciful. Judge not, and you shall not be judged. Condemn not, and you shall not be condemned. Forgive, and you will be forgiven. Lk 6:36-37. I think you need to let Yah worry about Barry. He has given his life to his Son. Have a look at his surroundings. He has traded business and the pursuit of riches to being a custodian of what has brought to faith/strengthened the faith of a multitude of people.

[@wipo3654]

​​​​​​​@@pgson8929 What I have quoted are not my words. So according to you the disciple John was not merciful too and Jesus' words are not meant as seriously as they are written?! Read please the whole content of John chapter 3 and tell me what does it mean for everybody who knows those words: John 3 18He who believes in Him is not condemned; but he who does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. 36He who believes in the Son has everlasting life; and he who does not believe the Son shall not see life, but the wrath of God abides on him.” And please have a look on my post I did about two weeks ago and see how merciful Shroud believers can be: NO SHROUD mentioned in the gospels ... I think that I have the same right as Barrie to share my point of view. But check the comments of the most active and agressiv Shroud defender I know on KZbin and who "enjoys rubbing my nose in the dirt". And also she is enthusiastic about Barrie and trusts him blindly. You can read the story here (most popular) when she met him personally.

[@beverlyhurd8556]

@@wipo3654 What? No Shroud mentioned in the Gospels?? What moron told you that lie? Not much doubt as to your Shroud ignorance. 1. 'And Joseph bought a linen *shroud,* and taking him down, wrapped him in the linen *shroud* [Mark 15:46] 2. 'And Joseph took the body and wrapped it in a clean linen *shroud'* [Matthew 27:59] 3. 'Then he took it down and wrapped it in a linen *shroud'* [Luke 23:53] Each of the synoptic Gospels mention Joseph of Arimathea making use of a single linen cloth to wrap the body of Jesus for burial. The Word 'Sindon' (singular noun ) means 'A clean sheet' and the Word 'Othonion' (plural noun) means 'bandages'. Luke uses the same plural noun (Othonion), “funeral linens,” in his account of the Resurrection (Luke 24: 12) after earlier speaking of the singular burial cloth (Sindon) or *shroud* (Luke 23 :53) . This plural noun mentioned in (Luke 24: 12) is intended to include all the funeral elements such as : 1) A long *shroud( - It's used to wrap whole body 2)A face cloth or 'Soudarion' - It's not used to wrap whole head but to wipe the perspiration from one’s face. The Greek word 'Soudarion' was derived from a Latin word for “sweat.” 3)A few stripes of linen - They help to tie a shroud around a body The Fourth Gospel never mentions such a 'Sindon'. Instead, John writes of Joseph and Nicodemus “binding the body of Jesus in strips of linen” The verb 'Binding' ( δέω) is frequently found in the context of binding a prisoner with chains. (Mark 5.3; 6.17; Acts 12.6; 21.33) John uses the same verb in Revelation for the 'binding' of the dragon (Rev 20: 2)

[@wipo3654]

"Book, chapter and verse(s) please" for all the following claims posted on another channel. But impossible because the story is pure Sindonology fantasy. Who twists the Scripture like this is simply not trustworthy: "beverlyhurd8556 @wipo3654 Those of us that are both intelligent and know both the Bible as well as the Shroud (that's millions of us) know that the face cloth of Jesus was wrapped around his head after he died but was still on the cross. After he was taken down and brought into the tomb it was taken off of him, folded, and set aside. He was not wearing it when he was resurrected. Duh! After Joseph of Arimathea and Nicodemus took Jesus to the tomb, they spent what little time they had before Sabbath forced them to stop cleaning his body. The spice women were to finish the job on Sunday morning but as we all know they could not as he had been resurrected. Is there any way at all that you can understand that??"

[@53lyric1]

The Shroud of Turin is a fascinating subject, and now I know there is a search engine dedicated to it. Thank you for sharing this interview.

[@AnHebrewChild]

Wow. What he said at 47:47 was really beautiful.

[@BlacksParson]

Barry is a solid individual. Really appreciate him.

[@sama32lambda]

Great video, I hope your work gets more recognition :)

[@mazyarkanani6708]

God Bless you Barrie. I lost my dad 3 weeks ago and I am thinking and praying for you both x❤

[@DylBod9-2]

An absolutely convincing authenticity rationale from Barrie. His comes across as an honest/highly knowledgable testimonial. One can tell he is such a nice person.

[@lorrainecleaver6792]

What an absolute gem Barry was. Rest in peace dear man. You worked so hard for us.

[@ladonna8386]

Truly great interview! Thank you both ❤

[@gregrice1354]

Thank God for Barrie Schwortz! Thank you for your conscientious work in imaging, and honest reporting!

[@wipo3654]

Barrie is convinced that the Shroud is the authentic burial cloth of Jesus. But does he also belief Christ is THE Son Of God and the promised Messiah? Up to this time I didn't hear any testimony. Ask him what the following means for him: The Sin-Bearing Messiah (written about 700 BC) Isaiah 53 1Who has believed our report? And to whom has the arm of the Lord been revealed? 2For He shall grow up before Him as a tender plant, And as a root out of dry ground. He has no [a]form or [b]comeliness; And when we see Him, There is no [c]beauty that we should desire Him. 3He is despised and [d]rejected by men, A Man of [e]sorrows and acquainted with [f]grief. And we hid, as it were, our faces from Him; He was despised, and we did not esteem Him. 4Surely He has borne our [g]griefs And carried our [h]sorrows; Yet we [i]esteemed Him stricken, [j]Smitten by God, and afflicted. 5But He was wounded[k] for our transgressions, He was [l]bruised for our iniquities; The chastisement for our peace was upon Him, And by His stripes[m] we are healed. 6All we like sheep have gone astray; We have turned, every one, to his own way; And the Lord [n]has laid on Him the iniquity of us all. 7He was oppressed and He was afflicted, Yet He opened not His mouth; He was led as a lamb to the slaughter, And as a sheep before its shearers is silent, So He opened not His mouth. 8He was taken from [o]prison and from judgment, And who will declare His generation? For He was cut off from the land of the living; For the transgressions of My people He was stricken. 9And [p]they made His grave with the wicked- But with the rich at His death, Because He had done no violence, Nor was any deceit in His mouth. 10Yet it pleased the Lord to [q]bruise Him; He has put Him to grief. When You make His soul an offering for sin, He shall see His seed, He shall prolong His days, And the pleasure of the Lord shall prosper in His hand. 11[r]He shall see the labor of His soul, and be satisfied. By His knowledge My righteous Servant shall justify many, For He shall bear their iniquities. 12Therefore I will divide Him a portion with the great, And He shall divide the [s]spoil with the strong, Because He poured out His soul unto death, And He was numbered with the transgressors, And He bore the sin of many, And made intercession for the transgressors. Footnotes: a Isaiah 53:2 Stately form b Isaiah 53:2 splendor c Isaiah 53:2 Lit. appearance d Isaiah 53:3 Or forsaken e Isaiah 53:3 Lit. pains f Isaiah 53:3 Lit. sickness g Isaiah 53:4 Lit. sicknesses h Isaiah 53:4 Lit. pains i Isaiah 53:4 reckoned j Isaiah 53:4 Struck down k Isaiah 53:5 Or pierced through l Isaiah 53:5 crushed m Isaiah 53:5 Blows that cut in n Isaiah 53:6 Lit. has caused to land on Him o Isaiah 53:8 confinement p Isaiah 53:9 Lit. he or He q Isaiah 53:10 crush r Isaiah 53:11 So with MT, Tg., Vg.; DSS, LXX From the labor of His soul He shall see light s Isaiah 53:12 plunder The Holy Bible, New King James Version, Copyright © 1982 Thomas Nelson. All rights reserved

[@biddyshea2095]

Very interesting interview !! Thank you to Barrie Shwortz and Joe Brock.

[@johncharleson8733]

Great interview----complete with newer added details---great job both of you.

[@harbingerofepiphany3155]

Rogan should have Barrie on

[@mariag3605]

He won't - his zionist boss would never permit that. After almost 6 months, he's finally made a statement about the evil, depraved gen.0.cyde...

[@answeringthewmscog]

That would be excellent.

[@markb3786]

@@answeringthewmscog Yep Joe Rogan is what the incurious think curiosity looks like

[@harbingerofepiphany3155]

@@markb3786 Thanks for your invaluable input

[@noelajones619]

Barrie Schwartz, you are tops. I have followed you from the beginning and passed on your wonderful information to friends and family. Thank you and May God bless you.

[@vdoniel]

Mr. Schwortz always comes across as an honorable completely transparent person. I believe I've seen every available video of him on the internet. He is delightful to watch. May God richly bless him.

[@wipo3654]

2 Timotheus 3 16All Scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for [c]instruction in righteousness, 17that the man of God may be complete, thoroughly equipped for every good work. 1 Corinthians 15 (NKJB) 1Now, brothers [siblings], I want to remind you of the gospel I preached to you, which you received, and in which you stand firm. 2By this gospel you are saved, if you hold firmly to the word I preached to you. Otherwise, you have believed in vain. 3For what I received I passed on to you as of first importance: that Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures, 4that He was buried, that He was raised on the third day according to the Scriptures, 5and that He appeared to Cephasa and then to the Twelve. 6After that, He appeared to more than five hundred brothers at once, most of whom are still living, though some have fallen asleep. 7Then He appeared to James, then to all the apostles. 8And last of all He appeared to me also, as to one of untimely birth.

[@beverlyhurd8556]

Barrie is indeed a wonderful man. I had dinner with him last August while I was in Colorado City visiting my daughter. It was a delightful evening. How you see him on the videos is just how he is in real life. Charming, funny, witty. Great guy.

[@wipo3654]

Hebrew 4 12For the word of God is living and powerful, and sharper than any two-edged sword, piercing even to the division of soul and spirit, and of joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart. 1 John 2 22 Who is a liar but he who denies that Jesus is the Christ [MESSIAH]? He is antichrist who denies the Father and the Son. 23 Whoever denies the Son does not have the Father either; he who acknowledges the Son has the Father also. John 3 18He who believes in Him is not condemned; but he who does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. 36He who believes in the Son has everlasting life; and he who does not believe the Son shall not see life, but the wrath of God abides on him.”

[@beverlyhurd8556]

@@wipo3654 You uneducated clowns sure do love to prove how dumb you are!! I find it funny that you, all by yourself, think, incredibly, that you know more about the image on the Holy Shroud than what was *proven* by many dozens of doctors, scientists, archeologists, and other highly trained researchers and their *tens of thousands of hours* of examinations have given us. The Shroud *most definitely* wrapped the body of a severely beaten, scourged and crucified man that was wearing a crown or cap of thorns while on. Who else could this possibly have been other than Jesus? _Think_ a little bit every now and then, OK? 🤦‍♂🤦‍♂

[@wipo3654]

Only gullible people believe the pseudo-scientific Sindonology nonsens that ignores and/or twists the gospels context. beverlyhurd8556 and other Shroud apostels cannot quote any verse to confirm their fanciful unbiblical and mystical explanations to justify something like the Shroud. Below a collection of the main ridiculous claims and please check yourself where it can be found in the Scripture (Bible) - NOWHERE! The only correct translation of SINDON is "A linen shroud/sheet/cloth". The head cloth was added on the cross and removed/folded by somebody in the rock-tomb. The spices were never or partly added due to lack of time. The final wrapping was done in the rock-tomb. The women wanted to finish the "burial spicing" after Sabbath because "anointing" means the same. The Shroud is the "sign of Jona". The image of the Shroud is the reason why Peter and John "saw and believed" the resurrection. The image of the Shroud is the reason why "the doubtful Thomas" believed the resurrection. Paul referred to the Shroud in Galatians 3,1 when writing "Jesus was portrayed as crucified".

[@matthewstokes1608]

Does the God who shapes every snow flake and finger print into uniqueness - and having created the entire cosmos, all life, all space, all time - and who is already sitting at the End of Time (being outside of it as well as in it at any moment) in His Eternal Triumph - and ours - not have any part in all this?? Of course He does - it was His Son who was nailed to the Cross to anchor us to Him who would dare follow in Love and Faith into Eternity. It seems to me most likely that this shroud is precisely what it looks like: the real thing… The moment that the first human by the hand of God became what we will become - immortal by Miracle.

[@kimfleury]

I love that ending. One time I was meditating before the Tabernacle in my parish church. We believe that the consecrated wafer is the glorified, real Body of Christ, and any that remain after Divine Liturgy are reposed in the Tabernacle. I was meditating on the word "repose" as it relates to the Body of Jesus being laid in repose (in the Tabernacle), and suddenly I was in the Tomb on Holy Saturday. I know it was an image in my mind, not an actual teleportation or time travel, but it was so real that I was startled. I saw His face in profile, as if I were under the shroud, but I didn't see the rest of His body. And the Angels! Beings of light of different colors, all standing guard over His sacred Body. I didn't see an authentic depiction of the image on the Shroud, and I knew that because I was somewhat familiar with the Shroud. But that's not why I was given the grace of the vision in my mind. I understood it was the message that Jesus really, truly died, and His Body lay in the Tomb on Holy Saturday, and the Angels guarded it while His Soul and Divinity, in other words His spirit, preached the Gospel to the souls of all the deceased people from Adam to His present day. Sometimes that little kind of reminder boosts a growing faith. After that, I wanted to know more about the Shroud. I always did believe it's authentic, since I was a teen hearing about it for the first time when the STIRP Team was in its way to Italy to examine it. I just wanted to know more about it. That's why Barry's last words in this video touch me so

[@toosiyabrandt8676]

Hi Read the book of Hebrews to see that Jesus Yeshua died ONCE for the sin of the world ! ( AND NOT EVERY DAY AS A ‘WAFER’! This ritual is pagan in origin and the entire Roman Catholic Hierarchy is downloaded straight from Babylonian Mystery Religion ! JESUS WARNED HIS DISCIPLES AGAINST HIERARCHICAL GOVERNANCE WITH HIS LAST SUPPER FOOTWASHING DEMONSTRATION ‘TO KEEP THEIR FEET ON THE GROUND’ ‘YE ARE ALL BROTHERS ONE OF ANOTHER AND YE HAVE ONE MASTER, CHRIST’ Matt 23:8 AND NO BIBLICAL PRIESTS WERE EVER CELIBATE BUT PAGAN BUDDHISTS ARE!

[@kbeetles]

The atheist-materialist world would like us to laugh at this - but we are still intrigued and their arguments fall flat. They still cannot reproduce a similar image. The next best thing they can do is ignore it, ignore all results except the false carbon-dating, which they love! After that comes the mockery, the ridiculing, the arrogance ..... oh, yes! When you run out of reasoning, try to belittle your opponent - great job, guys!

[@DEVILDOG1964]

THE ATHEISTS HAVE NO PROOF THE SHROUD IS A FRAUD JUST AN OPINION.

[@SJK-ROW-K]

“They still cannot reproduce a similar image” - no one has still been able to reproduce walking on water or turning water into wine.

[@SJK-ROW-K]

Because your mum says ‘it’s authentic’ regarding her son who’s working on the authenticity of the shroud is not a great argument

[@DEVILDOG1964]

@@SJK-ROW-K DUMB reply scientists with the best available technology examined and tested the Shroud. Only DEMONS would deny it's AUTHENTICITY!!!!👹

[@lunabell7133]

Rest in Peace Barrie!

[@day3455]

Amazing interview. This man is extraordinary, not only because of what he has done, it’s the commotion that he still has about his work and the meaning it has that is so clear in his work.

[@beverlyhurd8556]

Indeed. Barrie is the real deal. One of only a few living people on Earth that have actually handled the Shroud of Turin _with his bare hands!_ I met up with him last summer in Colorado for dinner partly so I could shake the hand of the man that touched the face of God. What a thrill that was for me.

[@day3455]

@@beverlyhurd8556 wow! That’s so amazing! Anyway, I really think that his attitude, his joy and excitement, sill there at his age, are clear signs of what he gained.

[@beverlyhurd8556]

@@day3455 Yeah he's 77 now. Devotes his life to the Shroud. He no longer does speaking tours (at 77 I wouldn't want to either) but he has a nice setup for podcast in his home. But he is on no medication and leads and active life. Let's hope and pray he's still doing this for another 25 years. 👍

[@day3455]

@@beverlyhurd8556 i live in Italy, so I wouldn’t have the chance to meet him even if he were on a tour! But, yeah, fascinating! Honestly I do hope he is preserved, but one day he will see that Face that he diligently took pictures of Alive! I’m sure Jesus will hug him dearly!

[@nonyabuznuss2944]

RIP Barry! Thank you for your scholarly contributions to the study of the shroud.

[@olyestefaniasalazar]

Squicky = Star researcher (great conversation, by the way)

[@johnc.8298]

Mr. Schwortz. Thank you for your time and energy in your "obligation" to the world. May your legacy live on richly through all who have and will benefit from your hard work. You are a gem. Thank you for the personal sacrifices and opportunity cost you have made to make this scientific data and information available and known.

[@wipo3654]

Does Barrie Schwortz believe in Christ and consequently that the Bible is the first source for Christians? According to the gospels ... ... Joseph of Arimathea bought the needed burial cloth (SINDON). That means bandages (OTHONION) and the head cloth (SOUDARION). Nicodemus organised about 32 kg spices. That means a sticky mixture of myrrh and aloes. Jesus was taken from the cross and most likely also washed. Then the body, except the head, was wrapped/bound with (META) the spices between the bandages (OTHONION) according to the burial custom of Jews at that time. The head was covered with the head cloth (SOUDARION). Finally Jesus was carried to the nearby rock-tomb and was laid in there. The rock-tomb was closed with a stone and sealed. After Sabbath the women intended to anoint Jesus' head removing and readding the head cloth (SOUDARION) but ... Christ died for our sins, was buried, and rose again on the third day according to the scriptures. 1 Corinthians 15:3,4 Jesus has risen! At dawn one Sunday almost 2,000 years ago, a great event took place. What happened? Two days earlier, the completely innocent Jesus of Nazareth had been executed on a cross. In the evening of the same day, two of his disciples buried him in a rock tomb before the Sabbath began, the day of rest for the Jews and today's Saturday. Several Roman soldiers guarded the tomb. Sunday morning, shortly after midnight, it happened: Jesus Christ rose from the dead! As the first proof of this, God caused a great earthquake. Then He sent an angel to roll away the heavy stone in front of the tomb. So everyone could see that the grave was empty! The soldiers trembled in fear and were completely powerless. They could not prevent the resurrection of the Lord Jesus - but they were witnesses to it. A new day dawned for humanity - the starting point for the gospel of God's grace. Jesus predicted: “I am the resurrection and the life; Whoever believes in me, even though he dies, will he live” (John 11:25). This saving faith in Him is not merely believing that His life on earth was perfect and sinless. It also includes more than believing in His death on the cross. Saving faith includes belief in his resurrection. If Jesus had not risen, faith would be meaningless. It would be as useless as belief in any religion founder. None of them can help us because they are all dead. But Jesus lives - He has conquered death and gives eternal life to those who believe in Him!

[@beverlyhurd8556]

@@wipo3654 Why don't you ask Barrie that question? Think that might be a good idea? Why are you asking everyone else what Barrie thinks instead of just asking Barrie? Seems odd. Even for you.

[@wipo3654]

​​​​​@@beverlyhurd8556 And what business is it of yours who I ask and why? But finally today I got an e-mail from Andrew Dalton: "Peace of Christ! While I will not enter disputes, I can eventually share my forthcoming article. It will be presented at the Annual Meeting of SBL International in Amsterdam this July. For the time being, here is the abstract: ..." The abstract was general, short and diplomatic. So either he couldn't or didn't want to answer my specific questions. Let's see if the there is something more educated to come.

[@wipo3654]

The Sin-Bearing Messiah Isaiah 53 1Who has believed our report? And to whom has the arm of the Lord been revealed? 2For He shall grow up before Him as a tender plant, And as a root out of dry ground. He has no [a]form or [b]comeliness; And when we see Him, There is no [c]beauty that we should desire Him. 3He is despised and [d]rejected by men, A Man of [e]sorrows and acquainted with [f]grief. And we hid, as it were, our faces from Him; He was despised, and we did not esteem Him. 4Surely He has borne our [g]griefs And carried our [h]sorrows; Yet we [i]esteemed Him stricken, [j]Smitten by God, and afflicted. 5But He was wounded[k] for our transgressions, He was [l]bruised for our iniquities; The chastisement for our peace was upon Him, And by His stripes[m] we are healed. 6All we like sheep have gone astray; We have turned, every one, to his own way; And the Lord [n]has laid on Him the iniquity of us all. 7He was oppressed and He was afflicted, Yet He opened not His mouth; He was led as a lamb to the slaughter, And as a sheep before its shearers is silent, So He opened not His mouth. 8He was taken from [o]prison and from judgment, And who will declare His generation? For He was cut off from the land of the living; For the transgressions of My people He was stricken. 9And [p]they made His grave with the wicked- But with the rich at His death, Because He had done no violence, Nor was any deceit in His mouth. 10Yet it pleased the Lord to [q]bruise Him; He has put Him to grief. When You make His soul an offering for sin, He shall see His seed, He shall prolong His days, And the pleasure of the Lord shall prosper in His hand. 11[r]He shall see the labor of His soul, and be satisfied. By His knowledge My righteous Servant shall justify many, For He shall bear their iniquities. 12Therefore I will divide Him a portion with the great, And He shall divide the [s]spoil with the strong, Because He poured out His soul unto death, And He was numbered with the transgressors, And He bore the sin of many, And made intercession for the transgressors. Footnotes: a Isaiah 53:2 Stately form b Isaiah 53:2 splendor c Isaiah 53:2 Lit. appearance d Isaiah 53:3 Or forsaken e Isaiah 53:3 Lit. pains f Isaiah 53:3 Lit. sickness g Isaiah 53:4 Lit. sicknesses h Isaiah 53:4 Lit. pains i Isaiah 53:4 reckoned j Isaiah 53:4 Struck down k Isaiah 53:5 Or pierced through l Isaiah 53:5 crushed m Isaiah 53:5 Blows that cut in n Isaiah 53:6 Lit. has caused to land on Him o Isaiah 53:8 confinement p Isaiah 53:9 Lit. he or He q Isaiah 53:10 crush r Isaiah 53:11 So with MT, Tg., Vg.; DSS, LXX From the labor of His soul He shall see light s Isaiah 53:12 plunder The Holy Bible, New King James Version, Copyright © 1982 Thomas Nelson. All rights reserved

[@beverlyhurd8556]

@@wipo3654 What business is it of yours why I ask morons questions? Maybe I just enjoy watching them make fools of themselves. Ever think of that?

[@dahliamama4999]

Barry did so much. He reminds me of my dad. I wish I could have gone back and told him how much I appreciate his work and his website.

[@GavinMCox]

Fantastic interview, thanks Joe, what a treasure Barrie is!

[@louiseb5323]

Awesome interview thank you - wonderful why to end such a great interview - thank you & God bless

[@karenduncan6004]

Fascinating interview. Thank you.

[@enasrofoo7614]

Wow!! I'm amazed!! Thank you 👍

[@justsaying.8017]

Awesome Thank you 🤍

[@gregariousguru]

I wish he could have still been around when science finally revealed that its actually of the time of Jesus. Rest easy brother.

[@herbertwhittard2443]

Love listening to Barrie, what a great guy.

[@honeycat535]

lovely man, thoroughly enjoyed his knowledge about the shroud. i believe it is the burial cloth of Jesus Christ that has his image captured as he was resurrected by God through Light.

[@JimmyDennis]

Great interview.

[@rogerscottcathey]

I corresponded with Barry and talked to him in the phone several times. I was fascinated that a Jew was so vociferous in defense of a Christian relic. It's a shame there was never any redress of the main issue about the carbon14 dating being done on, what they claim, was a mire modern reweaving repair segment of the Shroud. Nowadays, certainly just a single thread from elsewhere from the Shroud could yield either a refutation or confirmation. Why wouldn't the Church allow such today? Its either real or a work of art and genius that puts all the genius of DaVinci and Michaelangelo and all the other artists put together to shame

[@susand3668]

"Once burned, twice shy"? Carbon-dating does destroy part of the cloth itself -- which, if it is authentic, is very, very precious. So doing the carbon dating once was a HUGE concession. In any case, the Church is not about preaching the truth of a piece of cloth. Faith is a gift from the Lord God Himself. The facts of the Shroud should support our Faith, and help us to come closer to the Man Jesus, Who is the Incarnate God. But we do not worship a piece of cloth, no matter how wonderful the miracle of its preservation is.

[@matthewstokes1608]

Thank you so much Barrie Schwortz!

[@alainaaugust1932]

Wow, Joe, what happened to you? From cat shows to Yoda to Oreo tricks to the Shroud’s world class expert! Now that’s some journey. Care to share it? In any case, blessings.

[@NEChristo]

When was this interview?

[@AnitaBarneycastle]

It's interesting that Barrie isn't a Messianic Jew now.

[@johnc.8298]

He believes it is the authentic burial cloth of Jesus , but like most Jews, he doesn't believe this Jesus whom Christians have faith in was the promised messiah. They believe the messiah has yet to come.

[@calebcrawford2520]

It’s very interesting to me too. I wonder if he’s read passages like Micah 5:2, Isaiah 52:13-52:12, Daniel 9, passages like this that are all traditionally understood to be Messianic by ancient rabbis.

[@toosiyabrandt8676]

Hi SO TRUE! HE TOTALLY STANDS FOR THE AUTHENTICITY OF THE SHROUD IMAGE AS IN NOT BEING FRAUDULENT, BUT HAS NOT UNDERSTOOD THE MEANING OF THAT! I.E. JESUS ROSE FROM THE DEAD AND IS INDEED OUR SAVIOUR AND LORD AS ISAIAH 53 REVEALS, AND PSALM 22 AND ZECHARAIAH 12:10-11

[@SpiralEyeZombie]

God bless Barrie Schwortz. What a mensch!

[@jaggedstarrPI]

Just learned of his death a few months ago (end of June 2024, I believe). What a loss! I had only discovered him earlier this year, a man who studied the Shroud, starting as a skeptic but in his words, the Shroud brought him back to his faith, not Christian but Jewish. I would have loved to hear him expound on that aspect alone. What a powerful witness! He will be missed. But he's with Jesus now and we will see him again.

[@gregm6894]

I firmly believe the image on the Shroud is referenced in the Bible. In Paul's letter to the Galatians, he says in Chapter 3, Verse 1: "You foolish Galatians! Who has bewitched you? Before your very eyes Jesus Christ was publicly portrayed as crucified." Notice that Paul doesn't say you were clearly told, or you clearly heard -- he says the crucified Christ was clearly 'portrayed' before their very eyes. The Greek word used here for 'portrayed' means to show as with a 'placard' or 'sign'.

[@susand3668]

Interesting. It is a lot of weight to put on one verbal construction, but you may be right.

[@gregm6894]

@@susand3668 I get your point, but there is a good chance the early church minimized pointing to the Shroud, as they did not want people to start praying to, or worshiping the the Shroud itself, as the Israelites did with the bronze snake Moses mounted to the pole in Numbers 21. If Paul was not referring to the Shroud, that begs the question of what he would have been referring too that would have been so convincing to those who saw it.

[@susand3668]

Dear@@gregm6894, 😊

[@gregm6894]

@@susand3668Dear Susan, ‘“The Lord bless you and keep you; the Lord make his face shine on you and be gracious to you; the Lord turn his face toward you and give you peace.”’

[@wipo3654]

According to the gospels' context ... Joseph of Arimathea bought the needed burial linen cloth (SINDON). That means bandages (OTHONION) and the head cloth (SOUDARION). Nicodemus organised about 32 kg spices. That means a sticky mixture of myrrh and aloes. Jesus was taken from the cross and most likely he was also washed. Then the body, except the head, was promply wrapped/bound with (META) the spices between the bandages (OTHONION) according to the burial custom of Jews at that time. The head was covered with the head cloth (SOUDARION). Finally Jesus was carried to the nearby rock-tomb and was laid in there. The rock-tomb was closed with a stone and sealed. After Sabbath the women intended to anoint Jesus' head removing and readding the head cloth (SOUDARION) but ... Christ died for our sins, was buried, and rose again on the third day according to the scriptures. 1 Corinthians 15:3,4 Jesus has risen! At dawn one Sunday almost 2,000 years ago, a great event took place. What happened? Two days earlier, the completely innocent Jesus of Nazareth had been executed on a cross. In the evening of the same day, two of his disciples buried him in a rock tomb before the Sabbath began, the day of rest for the Jews and today's Saturday. Several Roman soldiers guarded the tomb. Sunday morning, shortly after midnight, it happened: Jesus Christ rose from the dead! As the first proof of this, God caused a great earthquake. Then He sent an angel to roll away the heavy stone in front of the tomb. So everyone could see that the grave was empty! The soldiers trembled in fear and were completely powerless. They could not prevent the resurrection of the Lord Jesus - but they were witnesses to it. A new day dawned for humanity - the starting point for the gospel of God's grace. Jesus predicted: “I am the resurrection and the life; Whoever believes in me, even though he dies, will he live” (John 11:25). This saving faith in Him is not merely believing that His life on earth was perfect and sinless. It also includes more than believing in His death on the cross. Saving faith includes belief in his resurrection. If Jesus had not risen, faith would be meaningless. It would be as useless as belief in any religion founder. None of them can help us because they are all dead. But Jesus lives - He has conquered death and gives eternal life to those who believe in Him!

[@violethart4828]

☀️💛I Believe

[@jacobmalpass5779]

Question for Mr.Barrie, you said it didn't convince you to become Christian, so then what would be your explanation for the shroud if not supernatural? And if you agree it is supernatural, what keeps you from believing the witness of the messiah?

[@rogerweigel7925]

Did he say it was supernatural?

[@jacobmalpass5779]

​@@rogerweigel7925Did he say it wasn't?

[@rogerweigel7925]

@@jacobmalpass5779 I do think he referred to it as a miracle. If the shroud is a real shroud, how do we know it covered Jesus Christ? It certainly is a fascinating relic.

[@orreibarasch8060]

Why must he become Christian to boost your ego?

[@cruznature7545]

Intresting that the image floats on top of cloth, just like the image of the tilma of our Lady of Guadalupe.

[@susand3668]

I think "floats" should be in quotation marks, since both images are *on* the surface of the cloth, but without penetration. Have you looked at Our Lady of Las Lajas in Colombia South America? The image of Jesus and Mary, flanked by Saints Dominic and Frances, is formed by the colorful stones themselves, even to the delicate features of the faces. Several core sample bored into the rock indicate that the colors go at least a few feet into the rock-face.

[@waynesumner1829]

This man is a true Saint!

[@garyhaynes6469]

Barry is one cool dude.

[@jeffreyerwin3665]

At minute 34:05 Barrie shows us a close up photo of the 1988 radiocarbon sample corner. A watermark is seen that runs through the sample corner. If that corner had been subjected to a reweaving repair, the watermark would have been eliminated. With all due respect to the late Mr. Schwortz, he is wrong about the reason for the skewed radiocarbon readings. The idea that the Pope owns the Shroud is questionable. All of King Umberto's Italian property was confiscated by the Italian State in 1946, and the King's will in regards to that property was nullified. Technically, the State of Italy owns the Shroud.

[@deannavarro777]

Too many ads 👎👎 Great interview and you blow it with all the ads. Jesus is LORD!

[@sliglusamelius8578]

YT determines ad rates

[@alexandrepatucci400]

Desde o Brasil...obrigado pela entrevista. RIP Barrie

[@honeycat535]

Thank You GOD for Barrie , all the work he has done is just wonderful.And Thank You Barrie.

[@new_comment]

If it is the burial cloth of, Jesus. And He wants it to be preserved, it will be just that, preserved no matter how the "scientific" community tries to discredit it or hide the truth. Praise God.

[@beverlyhurd8556]

You know, it was science that _proved_ that the Shroud of Turin was not a fake! Hats off to all of them that took part doing so, and thank you Barrie for being part of it! 👍

[@daffidavit]

I'd like to know if it was prohibited for cotten and linen to have been used on the same loom in Jewish weaving before the time of Jesus. Wool is a different story, but I'm interested in the weaving and mixing laws of specifically cotton and linen.

[@michaelknowles2850]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/rqTCnKmMqNStbpI 41:00 - Jewish Person on the film says Linen and Cotton ok. Rebecka Jackson.

[@daffidavit]

Thank you. @@michaelknowles2850

[@AUniversalPhilosophy]

To add to information: On June 8, 1973, in Globe, Arizona (about 100 miles north of the University of Arizona where the shroud was analyzed) this was spoken by spiritual messengers of God through a man (Ray Elkins) in prophecy. "And now we should answer this question you have had within your minds of the shroud. First, we should answer in this manner, as the body of the one known as Jesus was taken, therefore, from the cross, that those who bare him and the bearers who carried him brought for the body, and there, both of the first wrappings were taken place, but the ointments were first applied to the body. This was done very soon after the death itself, as the oils and the ointments of the chemicals within the same were used to cleanse the body, and then the body was wrapped much, as you would know, in a mummified state. After this was done, cloth that was soaked in the same ointment was used in such a manner as you would cover a body with a blanket. "Now, as we have said before, as those who would come upon the morn, therefore they found within the tomb both shrouds, as you would know it. The true shroud would be that into which the body was wrapped of cloth. Yet, the second was also true, and this is which you have spoke about. "The wrappings themselves were never recovered from the tomb. "They were passed from living disciple to living disciple, yet there to stay with John in exile. But the impression, or the picture form, which should show upon this shroud was a distorted, at best. Yet, if you should mix the same chemicals, secreting that which come from the body as the soul should leave the body and make ready for the resurrection, you shall find that it should give you picture form, much of the manner unto which you have. "But you must understand, from boyhood to manhood, this one known as Jesus was touched by God, and therefore, as the scars of life should show upon each man and woman, so should the scars of goodliness, that which should become the blessed one, the Lamb of God."

[@nilswedin8480]

Was interesting to compare DNA from blood on head cloth and the big one. They have been kept apart for 1000 years and if the same DNA is found on both, it is evidence unaffected by contamination. Then it's the same person.

[@beverlyhurd8556]

It would be great if there was only one kind of DNA on each cloth to test. But there are hundreds of of different people's DNA on each cloth. So that takes care of that.

[@nilswedin8480]

@@beverlyhurd8556 Yes, but you only need to find two identical ones, one on each. These items have been stored separately in different countries for a thousand years. The probability that someone touched both objects and left their DNA is small.

[@beverlyhurd8556]

@@nilswedin8480 Well, thing is that it is not even remotely necessary. With an incredible 120 points of congruity between the two it is totally impossible for them not to have come from the same body.

[@nilswedin8480]

@@beverlyhurd8556 Getting a DNA profile on "Jesus" would be very exciting, wouldn't it?

[@beverlyhurd8556]

@@nilswedin8480 Oh that it would. For sure it would. But who would they compare it to? Anyone got a few drops of God's blood handy for testing?

[@alsantoshsantana8803]

Billirubin is an enzyme or substance from the liver that is secreted in large amounts under high levels of physical stress, such as torture.

[@omranmusa5681]

R.I.P. Barrie Schwortz

[@AndreVieiraguitarist]

I hope and pray Barrie comes to know and believe in Jesus of Nazareth as the true Son of God! Great video! Love the cats !!

[@AL_YZ]

Yes Barrie is still a Jew. He has not converted to Christianity despite all that evidence and decades of knowledge. Obviously unconvinced despite all he said.

[@jy7383]

i SAW THE HOLY SHROUD IN the City of London n in 1952 -----

[@maryqc8418]

Since there were many Roman crucifixions, it could be any individual's shroud. However, the radiation event is remarkable. A miracle. A miracle in the time of Christ. Not just anyone's shroud. A truly mysterious miracle.

[@MarcosSilveira-vx6nn]

R.I.P. Barry Schwortz 😭🙏

[@edwardscott482]

So I've watched Barry over the years and I love the guy, seems very upfront and honest about everything. I just don't know if he's trying to maintain some sort of neutrality by saying he's still Jewish but I don't know how anyone can not only have access to the evidence but become the champion of the study, proclaim without a doubt the legitimacy of the Shroud but not become Christian. Does he not ask himself why this is the ONLY one in history and it just happens to be Jesus'? Why is that? Maybe He is who He said He is??? Come on Barry...it's ok to say you believe...

[@shable1436]

I was skeptical but after studying the information, you cannot deny the fact that it is still a mystery. That's what a nonjudgmental person would say, but I eventually saw the truth of it

[@kristenstudebaker814]

I wonder why he doesn't believe when the science says it is most likely the shroud? Nevertheless, great gratitude to his thorough research!

[@DomusQueen89]

I'm very confused by this too...especially because he felt he was being compelled by God. Lol

[@susand3668]

From what I have heard of Barrie Schwortz, he is not theologian. He feels close to the Man in the Shroud, his brother Jew. He does not have the gift of Faith to see that this Man is also the Living God Who is One with the Father and the Spirit. His continuing inability to convert is, in itself, a sweet demonstration of how blessed we who have the Faith are. God bless Mr. Schwortz. His dedication, without Faith, but with Love, is surly a sort of a miracle itself.

[@johnc.8298]

He believes it is the authentic burial cloth of Jesus , but like most Jews, he doesn't believe this Jesus whom Christians have faith in was the promised messiah. They believe the messiah has yet to come.

[@DomusQueen89]

@johnc.8298 Sure but knowing what he does about what would have to happen for that image to be deposited into that fabric.....lol

[@cocasal001]

What is intriguing is Barrie’s unbelief that this is the Jewish Messiah described in Isaiah 53? Barrie is one of the few people in history that have that close to a 3D moving picture of a Jewish man, tortured as described in Isaiah 53 and the gospels. And still unbelief ? Why? He cannot stick his head in science.

[@johnc.8298]

He believes it is the authentic burial cloth of Jesus , but like most Jews, he doesn't believe this Jesus whom Christians have faith in was the promised messiah. They believe the messiah has yet to come.

[@cocasal001]

@@johnc.8298 I understand, but this is a unique imprint of a man, a moving holographic image of a man, at a moment in time, resembling the exact forensic physical description of a tortured and crucified Jesus. Even with all our current technology in 2024, we cannot reproduce this image. Even if I started with a pure science lense, I would sit up and listen a lot more carefully. I would review, not only the science, but also history (pre-, contemporaneous, and post-), Jewish scripture, Rabbinical teachings, and would evaluate whether this Jesus’ claims as to him being the messiah has merit. Barrie does not. Very odd. Barrie isolates this scientific confidence in the authenticity of the shroud and refuses to look anywhere else for answers, why? Tradition? Family? Community? There are Messianic Jews, so he does not need to abandon his expressions of devotion.

[@Soothsayer210]

Great interview, though I am a bit disappointed that you did not ask him about the 3 dimensional image. Specially considering he is a photographer.

[@Navigator001]

Barrie Schwortz is an incredible man.

[@wipo3654]

2 Timotheus 3 16All Scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for [c]instruction in righteousness, 17that the man of God may be complete, thoroughly equipped for every good work. Hebrew 4 12For the word of God is living and powerful, and sharper than any two-edged sword, piercing even to the division of soul and spirit, and of joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart. 1 John 2 22 Who is a liar but he who denies that Jesus is the Christ [MESSIAH]? He is antichrist who denies the Father and the Son. 23 Whoever denies the Son does not have the Father either; he who acknowledges the Son has the Father also. John 3 18He who believes in Him is not condemned; but he who does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. 36He who believes in the Son has everlasting life; and he who does not believe the Son shall not see life, but the wrath of God abides on him.”

[@beverlyhurd8556]

Isn't he though? I have spent many wonderful hours talking on the phone to Barrie. He lives not far from Colorado City where my daughter lives. I mentioned that I was going to come and visit her and he suggested that we meet up for dinner one night while I was there. We both enjoy Mexican food, so we ate at one in Woodland Park that he had eaten at before and enjoyed. While over the years I had spent hours talking to Barrie about the Shroud, this time it was just free rein to chat about anything we wanted. His time in the Navy, his first photography studios in California. Cameras, film, previous marriages, kids, cars, even Mount Everest. When we talked over the phone it was always Shroud related. When we met for dinner, nothing was off limits. He gave me some pictures that he had taken of the Shroud back in 1978 (they are framed and, on my wall, now) and a book on the Shroud. Two hours of chat later spilled into the parking lot where we chatted for yet another hour. I did not want it to end. But end it had to so when we parted company, I shook his hand and felt such a thrill knowing that I was touching the hand of a man that touched the face of our Lord. The Mexican food that night was only OK, and the prices were high, but wow was it ever worth it to spend that much time with Barrie. I sure hope that I get to do it again someday. Wonderful experience it was indeed.

[@waynesumner1829]

What is the explanation for the alternating position of the wrists from one view to another? In the first view yhe left wrist is on top, and then in the next view of that part of the shroud the right hand and wrist are on top? Is the shroud living?

[@hansbier5198]

42:00 - He Forgets, that a rich Salesmen taking care of Jesus dead body. I dint think he would do that unprepared....

[@karenmcmannis5749]

Barry, if you know the shroud was Christ’s burial cloth, and that there was a powerful burst of energy that made the body move, why wont you believe Christ rose from the dead? Christ is our Savior. What is blocking your ability to see the truth? I'm praying for your soul. You don't have much time.

[@stevenspurgeon2087]

Plucking his beard isn't saying they plucked it out.

[@bammbamm12]

If the body had been stolen, as the high priests claimed, why would the cloth have been folded? Why would the "grave robbers" even have taken the cloth off the corpse? If you were running away with a dead body, wouldn't you keep the burial cloth on the body? Why bother taking it off? This argument was never put forth in scripture - what was seen was reported - but it's worth mention that this observation would coincide with a resurrection rather than a crime.

[@timchandler4688]

Has there been any radiological tests done?

[@deborahd.7281]

In the 1960's my junior high or high school class computer class had a connection to Yale University I assume by telephone line and we would program by punching holes on paper tape and we would get a reply maybe the next day.

[@ddtt1398]

I thought the pin was not in the hand but on the body-side of the wrist, to prevent the tearing open of the hand, making the body fall down. That could still leave the top side at the said location.

[@sliglusamelius8578]

It was through the wrist according to what I've read.

[@susand3668]

I think you are right, the nail went through the hand and wrist at an angle.

[@matthewstokes1608]

Hi Squeaky!

[@ginabadeaux9319]

thank you ,i love Jesus and i believed in him before the Shroud showed up ,i think he took the very first selfie to show he resurected ,God can do any thing

[@LeticiaSierra]

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