How No Way Home Honors ALL THREE Spider-Men

Spider-Man: No Way Home is a miracle. There is no reason that a film balancing this many characters, plot elements, villains, and SPIDER-MEN should have worked this well, but here we are. And at the core of this success is a film that is celebrating not just Spider-Man’s history as a franchise in relation to its audience, but a film that is celebrating Peter Parker as a character.
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[@matti.8465]

Most people expect an epic "Andrew Spider-Man VS Venom" film, but we all know it'd be a buddy cop movie.

[@shivansh3387]

Not really. Andrew said in the movie that he stopped pulling his punches so he kinda became a murderer. In the end of No Way Home, Venom even says that they gotta meet this spider man guy. Maybe when they go to New York, they will hear the news that Spider Man is a murderer and maybe then they will fight before realizing that they are on the same side as Andrew would have stopped such stuff after no way home. Then they might team up against another bad guy. Just like all the other VS movies like Civil War, Godzilla vs Kong, etc.

[@matti.8465]

@@shivansh3387 Oh yeah, you can't have a superhero crossover without the initial fight. Still though, I think there's way more potential for Andrew's Peter and the Lethal Protector as a comedic duo (trio?)

[@communadog7874]

@@matti.8465 I imagine Andrew's Peter Parker gets venom and the black suit (again) and Eddie gets pissed because venom was stolen and he needs him(it?) to survive

[@silvergameplay7580]

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[@vankisha]

@@communadog7874 I don't think so. Venom and Eddie are lovers at this point. I really don't see why Venom would leave Eddie for Peter and he can't really force a symbiote to choose him. They could make it so that Venom and Eddie fight and split up but they already did that in Venom 2 which was all about them reinforcing their relationship.

[@ComicalRealm]

I never thought in many years we would get to see Andrew Garfield and Tobey Maguire again in a new Spider Man movie but here we are

[@salsaspartan7]

Never say never.

[@coldguto]

Much less we all thought we would see them TOGETHER

[@awaken_the_dreamers_8475]

I remember back in 2016 when homecoming was mentioned for development my brother said there was too many spider-man movies . I told him that was because they were setting us up for a live action Spider verse movie only for him to say that will never happen because it would be too expensive and that Tobey Maguire was done being spider-man and that Andrew was fired and they don't want him again. Well fast forward to now. We got a spiderverse movie that was live action.

[@silvergameplay7580]

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[@bradysheaplays1499]

Best timeline;)

[@docplays6508]

The reason why Andrew and Tobey’s roles in the movie are continuing their character arcs from their movies is because Tobey and Andrew were directing their characters since they knew them the best, which was a great decision

[@isomericgamer6644]

Actually, Jon Watts consulted Marc Webb and Sam Raimi to conclude their arcs.

[@docplays6508]

@@isomericgamer6644 oh ok. I didnt know that. Im pretty sure that Andrew and Tobey directed their characters as well

[@Zaiiiiin]

They had a say in what the portrayal should be like while the script was being written, that's why it feels like a continuation for them. They might not have directed but they were vital in the way they were written for the film.

[@docplays6508]

@@Zaiiiiin ok. Thx for the info

[@SpFlash1523]

@@isomericgamer6644 But also, the writers of No Way Home said in an interview that they wanted to hear Andrew and Tobey's input on how they should reintroduce and continue with their characters from where we last saw them since they are the ones that know them best.

[@CrowTRobot]

This movie retroactively makes Holland's other movies better as it feels like a natural next step in a larger character arc. Great video man. Once again, you bring positivity to an increasingly toxic fandom. Every Spider-man has something to offer

[@captainjakemerica4579]

Spider-Man isn't as toxic as it was pre No Way Home

[@TheWinstonSlip]

Those movies were already great

[@captainjakemerica4579]

@@TheWinstonSlip no shit

[@TheWinstonSlip]

@@captainjakemerica4579 tell him that then wtf?

[@CrowTRobot]

@@TheWinstonSlip I agree. I think they're even better now.

[@presidentobama630]

holland's acting in the may death scene was very reminiscent of andrew's acting in gwen's death, and i think it was perfect, it hurt yet you have to love the performance in it

[@devinbrown6650]

I loved the redemption scene Andrew's Spiderman was given by saving MJ

[@silvergameplay7580]

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[@somecallmejeremy]

I'm a fan of both but Gwen's death hits harder for me. Maybe because in TASM1 and TASM2, they built Peter and Gwen's relationship perfectly to where in Tom's case, his aunt was showcased as a "hot aunt" in the first two MCU Spider-Man movies, it's really in No Way Home where they scrapped that idea and turned her into a real aunt that cares for his nephew. Both deaths are greatly executed but one hits harder.

[@presidentobama630]

@@somecallmejeremy oh absolutely, while i was incredibly happy they gave tomei more to do, im upset this was the first one where they decided to utilise her well. and yes the gwen death hits way harder, gotta give garfield his roses, and tom can have like one or two of them

[@michaelpad7]

Holland’s acting was good but the scene itself didn’t carry much weight due to this Aunt May didn’t really have as big role in the other movies so it hindered the scene. I didn’t feel bad when his Aunt May died but I felt bad when his friend’s memories were wiped and they didn’t know who he was. That was good.

[@therealCrazyJake]

Seeing Tobey’s Peter as the mature, wise mentor figure to Holland’s Peter was so damn satisfying to me. Also, Alfred Molina just IS Doc Ock, and I’m so happy with the direction they took him!

[@manzero134gd]

Not only to Holland's, but to Garfield's as well. That "You're amazing" moment was one of my favorites because it speaks to all of us when we had those moments when we thought we were lame.

[@therealCrazyJake]

@@manzero134gd that, too! This movie honestly showed the most wholesome performance from Tobey Maguire that just lifts and compliments the other performers, and I am all for it! I genuinely feel like I’d be down for all three franchises to continue at this point.

[@beatbeat]

Can say the same thing for Willem Dafoe! I mean the man owned Green Goblin in the 2 Spider-man movies >:D

[@robertthreadgill5356]

@@manzero134gd There's also that scene wher the peters are creating the cures that Tobey gives Andrew a pep talk about his love life

[@therealCrazyJake]

@@beatbeat oh, absolutely! There is no better Goblin than Willem Defoe!

[@gamemaster2819]

I find this film also deconstructs the whole “No Secret Identity” thing prominent in the MCU. It shows that if you get stuck with a lousy rumor, it can affect your life and ruin your future. And for people that do still treat him as a hero, that fame might overwhelm you. It worked for Tony because he’s happy to show off his great life, but Peter is a lot more socially awkward.

[@authorofone]

When you look at most MCU characters, the public doesn’t actually know their real name. They know Loki, Thor, Tony and - at a stretch - Banner. All of these characters have the framework to deal with their identities being known, but Peter doesn’t

[@richardshroyer1010]

@AuthorOfOne No... Most of their names are public knowledge. Hawkeye series shows the memorial in NY from 2012, has all their names. Including Clint and Natasha. In Homecoming, you actually see Bruce Banner up on a wall with pictures of prominent scientists like Einstein, Tesla, etc. So no.. definitely not a stretch that people know Banner.. he's one of the world's greatest scientists, and it's public knowledge that he turned himself into the Hulk Most of the MCU characters have public identities.

[@silvergameplay7580]

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[@LucyWest370]

@@authorofone Tony has a public identity, Cap probably does as well he just doesnt try to hide it, Natasha doesnt really have an identity to hide shes just a government agent, same with Hawkeye as well

[@gamemaster2819]

@@richardshroyer1010 Pretty much just Spider-Man and the Ant-Man cast, and for the latter it’s more because they do covert operations under the radar

[@humonwhale9395]

It's kinda insane, Andrew was hated so much and then writers were like "hold up", and pulled a No Man's Sky with the character. It's really refreshing seeing people like Andrew's version now.

[@alexkay6676]

I’ve always thought Andrew was the most accurate. I’ve always loved his Spider-Man until NWH. Now he’s my favorite.

[@rogueguardian]

What's crazy to me Is that this film took inspiration from arguably one of the worst Spider-Man stories (One more day)and MADE IT GREAT. Marvel proved me wrong again.

[@Cosmic-mane]

It’s more of a one moment in time than a one more day adaptation

[@joebove4]

It’s not even the first time. I personally hold to Captain America: Civil War being vastly superior to its source material. Had a tighter, cleaner focus, with a more understandable conflict, and didn’t sacrifice who the characters are to make a political allegory (still kinda hate Mark Millar for that).

[@Icybubba]

@@Cosmic-mane One Moment in Time was part of the overall same story as One More Day so....

[@Icybubba]

Yep, the thing is One More Day/One Moment in Time were fine for a basic concept, the execution was horrible though

[@joebove4]

@@Icybubba the why of that story was also pretty damn bad.

[@treygavino]

Homecoming: Understanding Responsibility Far from home: understanding Power No way home: becoming spiderman with great Power and great Responsibility

[@jackthorton10]

A balance must be made and here the trilogy truly illustrates that perfectly

[@elixirow3892]

Far from home revolves more on responsibility, as he misjudged mysterio and passed on the responsibility left for him by stark, but then realises he must take things into his own hands, which also leads to no way home where he has to deal with the consequences of bad judgement

[@kxd13flow]

@@elixirow3892 that makes me think homecoming focus on power more since he basically felt like the suit was his power and he had to learn how to use the power he actually has without the suit

[@elixirow3892]

@@kxd13flow yeah thats when he first got his suit and thought he could do whatever he wants. Thats maybe why he hacked the suit and chased the vulture without tony knowing because he wanted to be a hero or something.

[@coachgoltzbizpro23]

I'm going to say this a lot: No Way Home is fan service done PROPERLY!!! Everything was balanced perfectly. I wouldn't put it as one of the best MCU movies, but that's okay. As a celebration of Spider-Man on screen, it's perfect.

[@pikahetti]

Yes.

[@ginkowave5829]

This is the best MCU movie because it's a good movie, not a good MCU movie. What other good MCU movies are there? Ragnarok? It's just funny, Infinity war? It has stakes but it's average Marvel fanfare. I'm just confused and curious what you think is better than an actually well written movie, in a series of mediocre films.

[@myweirdsecondchannelwithap9070]

why? its definitely at the toppest of the top

[@spider-man6932]

IW and Endgame are the best mcu movies ?? No they aren't!! Lol . No mcu movie even holds a candle to Spider-Man 2 and Spiderverse. Gotg and CA2 are the only decent marvel movies rest of them rely on hype train or star power that's it. NWH is decent but nothing compared to the goats of superhero movies .

[@tridonstrident6785]

@@ginkowave5829 The Winter Soldier was a pretty good spy thriller with an actually dangerous villain and good connections to the first Captain America movie.

[@firesoul5943]

I probably sound a little selfish but I'm really gonna miss Ned and MJ's presence around Peter they all had such a good chemistry and it kinda broke my heart to see their past that they've built wiped away but it's still good on Peter letting them live their lives, never thought of it that way til you brought it up in this video

[@MK-be7os]

He will probably meet harry and Gwen next trillogy

[@chikihando2483]

In the comics Ned is revealed to be Hobogoblin

[@josephfischer7623]

@@chikihando2483 dude that would be fucking garbage he is not

[@chikihando2483]

@@josephfischer7623 then read The Amazing Spider Man issue 289: The Hobgoblin Revealed, On the comic ned is not a comic relief

[@chap3509]

Trust me MJ will figure it out

[@mandipandi303]

I wasn't the biggest fan of the Webb films, but No Way Home made me absolutely love Andrew Garfield as Peter. I'm fully on board for an Amazing Spider-Man 3 now. I wouldn't have wanted it before this film.

[@cooliphoneguy2934]

it was the alex kurtzman & co script that made it like it is. with a different writer and less sony focus groups they could easily make it good

[@Kickinthescience]

@@cooliphoneguy2934 Spiderverse already proved that good Spiderman stories come from them. Better than the Tom Holland/Iron Boy movies

[@marckidgames5259]

@@Kickinthescience or that Sony didn’t interfere and let the Spider Verse team do their thing

[@beabea3770]

Just keep Alex Kurtzman away from Spiderman (and Star Trek, but that seems to be hopeless)

[@sahlemus]

You don't deserve amazing Spider-Man 3 if you didn't like the Webb films

[@saml302]

while I loved Andrew's performance as much as everyone else, I wish McGuire got more love because his performance was great, too especially after rewatching it, Tobey just walks right in from the Raimi-verse like he never left and I loved every second

[@chrispy3369]

"Welcome to McDonalds can I take your order please?" Me:"Yeah can I get a soda with a side of McGuire please".

[@godzillakaijuboy]

If I remember right, the only reason Toby even came into the movie was if the Rami movies would barely be mentioned.

[@devinbrown6650]

@@godzillakaijuboy also think he didn't want to overshadow Tom

[@silvergameplay7580]

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[@cripplelilrata7610]

Maguire is already overrated in his time, and even nostalgia fanboys today. Atleast give Andrew the spotlight he deserves this time geez.

[@SliceOfDog]

One of my favourite lines from this film was when Tobey's Peter says (paraphrasing - it was a week or so ago I saw it) "I think I can make a cure [for Green Goblin]. I've had a long time to think about it". The implication there killed me. Osborne is long dead, but Peter has still been asking himself if there was something he could have done to save him. There's no practical use for a cure after Osborne died. To my knowledge, especially after Harry, there's no more Goblin serum in that universe, no one else at risk. So it's just Peter spending years beating himself up about not doing enough to save a man who died trying to kill him.

[@cmccleese6190]

Truth. I watched No Way Home yesterday and it gave me so many feels seeing all the Parker’s stories collide!

[@lolface_9363]

Same

[@yoloswag_8172]

Bruh dont ever write another comment , cringy AF!

[@chap3509]

It feel so surreal I still can't wrap my head around of that

[@unspeakableflame292]

@@yoloswag_8172 dude

[@silvergameplay7580]

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[@noah_saidhi280]

End of the Movie theory: When Peter sees the Band-Aid above MJ’s eye. He is reminded of the pain he inflicts on her life as a byproduct of his relationship with MJ. Peter asks “does it still hurt?”, MJ responds saying something like “no, not really”. Peter is now given the opportunity to leave her knowing MJ is left with no pain or stigma of knowing Spider-Man. So Peter lets the people he loves live her life.

[@ZolDubs]

That's not even a theory, that's what happened xD

[@trla6505]

And in a possible flaw way of viewing things since he is robbing them the choice

[@kaitlyn__L]

@@ZolDubs it’s technically more subtext analysis but I’m fine with calling it a theory tbh

[@ZolDubs]

@@kaitlyn__L I see it more like a Summary of the end of the film, not like an analysis.

[@ThePonderer]

You can feel the admiration and adoration that No Way Home has for its Spider-Men and all their movies; even when it’s critiquing or pivoting away from the choices of previous films it feels like it’s done with love.

[@suvin1]

it is...

[@saifsufian4286]

This is probably the best review for Spiderman: No Way Home I've ever seen

[@Johnny2Cellos]

Aw man thank you :)

[@enricoturla5644]

"review"? But what is there to review? can you explain me where the story is ?? nwh’s story is based on a plot forcing , that is, the spell of doctor strange to make the whole world forget that peter parker is spiderman. Ok.When I looked at that scene, I thought, "Ah. Making Thanos forget the obsession with collecting gems you couldn’t do?" But you do realize that all these movies are based on flaws in the script and you don’t even notice because in the end you go to the cinema only to shout and say: "Ooohh!!".

[@mottom2657]

@@enricoturla5644 NWH is way better than some DC (and also some MCU) films. You think you can write a film? Why don't you go to Hollywood and make a film? Or start independently? Oh, you won't, probably because you're a Jeremy Scott fanboy. Horrible people like you should not be allowed to watch any movie.

[@AutumnOwlex]

This movie reminded me just how much I actually love Spider-Man. Now I want to watch every film in order in one sitting.

[@jamiegreenberg8476]

when i tell you everyone in my theater was SCREAMING when garfield saved zendaya would be an understatement also someone went HOLY SHIT when jamie foxx made the black spiderman/miles morales joke

[@IMVADER2]

Are just gonna forget that Ned is able to use magic??? I'd personally love to see more expanded on that

[@DashLashBoy]

? ned can cast portals with a device meant for that on his hand/forearm that doctor strange provided, ned just copied the movement he sees doctor strange do.

[@hoorenglish5732]

@@DashLashBoy But sometimes it didn’t work, like it was actually HIM casting the magic which is interesting.

[@DashLashBoy]

@@hoorenglish5732 Well sure, but idk since its pretty explicitly shown that he is using the gauntlet, which is also the same one Spiderman used

[@bloodknightazodrac9224]

Its not that deep

[@RanggaBhuana]

@@DashLashBoy If you remember, Doc Strange had a lot of difficulty for his first time using the sling ring, in his first movie. So Ned, not trained in the mystic arts, being able to open portals with it, albeit randomly, is quite impressive. Let's just hope he doesn't become the Hobgoblin.

[@thegamingnerd4]

Seeing Peter not re-introduce himself to MJ and Ned really hit me. The Peter and MJ story that was such a big part of Far From Home is one of, if not the best part of that movie for me, and we've all loved Ned since day 1. They did everything they possibly could to help Peter and the Spider-Men throughout the movie, and basically served as MCU Peter's lifeline, the biggest thing keeping him grounded despite all the craziness. When he's about to say that he loves her before the memory wipe, she interrupts him and tells him to save it until they meet again. MJ wanted to be with him, and she didn't care about the risks that come with that, because she loved him. And his love for her, that he never got to say, is what motivates him to make that last sacrifice, and walk out. Ned was the first one to find out that Peter is Spider-Man, and their friendship is something unique to MCU Peter. Him not re-introducing himself to Ned almost feels like a betrayal, but it's for his own sake. It's all beautifully heartbreaking.

[@dfghjklkjhgfdsa]

I remember when I saw the No Way Home, when I was done one of my first thoughts was how nice it was to see Andrew Garfield be Spiderman under the direction, writing, and care of people who were just… better than the folks who did the Amazing films. Because I always liked the Amazing films just fine, there was plenty of good there, it was just… mixed. I knew that he could act, so the blame seemed pretty squarely on the writing and directing. And No Way Home just sort of… confirmed it for me. Watching folks react to the whole Tom Holland Trilogy has been wild as someone who views things in a sort of level way. I never minded Peter’s relationship with Tony, because they were never going to be able to capture Spider-Man’s comic relationship with other heroes mostly because it’s just weird. Because in the comics Spiderman to most of the other heroes is baby but also peer because he’s been doing the hero thing just as long. And a bunch of other stuff, it was just never going to be a thing that could happen. So what they did was the smart option and I always enjoyed it and it made sense. He was Peter Parker… who grew up with lots of established heroes. As opposed to a Peter who everything was normal and then Thor showed up, and Fantastic Four, and suddenly he has super powers and all sorts of other heroes are popping up. It’s a different deal, and I always thought it was handled well. So watching folks throw fits about IronBoy was a trip. At least that will disappear going forward, which is nice. It’s also great that through the three movies, we’ve now managed to land at more… classic Peter Parker in a way that doesn’t feel weird and forced. Plus they pretty much did One More Day without pissing people off, which is impressive. And Tom’s Peter being able to pull them together because he actually has done teamwork. Chefs kiss. I really love the movie.

[@alexklepp6479]

One aspect about their interactions that I liked is the feeling when you interact with someone who has gone through similar experiences as you and as a result you feel less like an outsider and among kin.

[@alexh99]

I just love that the other spideys were there with a purpose for hollands and there respective stories and that it wasnt just to be like ooh look weve got the old spiderman for fan service

[@emilymiller3362]

I think that if you think about it Ned summoned them first Andrew as Spider-man and then Toby as Peter Parker. This seems to me to show that Ned didn't really have a good idea about what made Tom's Peter Parker/Spider-man unique. Not saying he is a bad friend but compare it to searching for something on the internet if you are not exact enough you do not get what you want.

[@moviehermit5631]

I think I have a few answers to the questions brought on by the final spell - The spell only affects the universe it was cast in (MCU) - Tobey and Andrew were not part of that universe, so they were unaffected by the spell - The multiversal variants were being brought in because the world (MCU) knew Peter was Spider-man (think of it like being attracted to a magnet), so making the world forget Peter entirely cancels out the magnetic pull, undoing the tension on the walls of reality. It also basically overlaps the initial spell, preventing the mulitversal collapse

[@emblemblade9245]

Makes sense to me!

[@saahithsreeram1680]

he specificly said every universe

[@hunterlawrence3573]

@@saahithsreeram1680 It was bringing everyone who knew Peter was Spider-Man from every universe into the MCU. Dr. Strange erased all knowledge of Peter being Spider-Man from the MCU so the spell sent everyone back to their initial universes.

[@Spark_Chaser]

The MJ save in No Way Home still makes me tear up. Even the clip has me openly weeping remembering how Andrew Parker looks after he finally makes the save for Tom Parker that he couldn't do for himself.

[@deshawnedwards6412]

To bad that either Toby-Verse or Andrew-Verse Harry didn't show up in No Way Home. Would've really loved to see Andrew-Verse Harry interaction with Toby-Verse version of his father.

[@firedragon2891]

I mean when Peter altered the spell, he said to not include his girlfriend, his aunt, and his best friend.

[@animax2422]

@@firedragon2891 interesting

[@TyrannosaurusGaming]

@@firedragon2891 yeah thats why I think they didn't appear

[@aionicthunder]

@@firedragon2891 That... actually explains a lot. Huh. Wow. Good point. Although, it does kinda make you wonder why Tobey-verse Venom doesn't show up, but Tom Hardy Venom shows up and, while I haven't watched those movies, my knowledge of them indicates that Spider-Man doesn't exist in that universe. Ah well. It's probably better that he shows up and not the "forcibly included by execs on a director who didn't really get him and therefore didn't want him in the first place" version

[@stephenrolle2671]

@@aionicthunder the answer to that is actually explained in the Venom 2 post credits scene. Venom talks to Hardy about how there are venoms across all universes and they share a hub of knowledge. So it’s safe to assume that Hardy’s Venom knows about Peter Parker through the Venom that was present in the Sam Raimi movies. Convoluted? Yes. But at the very least it isn’t some loose thread lol

[@user-gw3bs2in5i]

Looking back, I feel like this movie gave me a newfound appreciation for the other movies and characters. The closure it offered for the returning characters, as well as what it did with the newer ones. Also, sidenote, the moment that made me tear up the most was when Peter had the Lego Emperor Palpatine from Homecoming.

[@tinadothuytrang9199]

I totally agree! I loved that they had a chance to redeem themselves. Also I teared up at the end aswell when he put up the the Lego character that Ned had with him in Homecoming. It's so sad😭💔

[@92pkg]

The fact that they gave Andrew's spiderman a chance to redeem himself by saving MJ almost had me jumping out of my chair at the cinema shouting in celebration. And the performance of Andrew in the couple of seconds after he and MJ lands safely on the ground were so powerful. That scene alone was so rewarding to watch.

[@NatePrawdzik]

When Andrew Garfield's Peter has his redemption moment, I teared up. I'm not even a fanboy; I just appreciate powerful drama done well, and this was absolute gold.

[@CrowTRobot]

The next trilogy gives Peter the ability to continue playing in the MCU but without the Stark tech and advantages that he took advantage of before. It's a best of both worlds situation. With John Watts dedicated to Fantastic Four, I wonder who will direct them?

[@chengkuoklee5734]

That is a very big shoe to fill.

[@isomericgamer6644]

I hope Sam Raimi steps in to direct the next trilogy.

[@physical_insanity]

>who will direct them? Someone who knows how to do things right, that's who.

[@alphanerd7221]

@@isomericgamer6644 Sure, lets get that hack that knows nothing about Spider-Man back with his organic webbing and complete lack of banter.

[@isomericgamer6644]

@@alphanerd7221 woah that's a hot take. But if you dislike him you do you man. I don't think he'll write anything though only direct because his style is very good and it will make mcu spider man actually standout above other mcu movies rather then blend in. No way home stands out a little bit but we need more.

[@Skoringo]

Theory on Electro knowing Peter was Spidey: In TASM2, Harry told Max. Likely off-screen. But Max was so fixated on one-upping Garfield's Spider-Man he didn't care. He just wanted to one up him. Hatting what Max perceived in Peter, knowing who Spider-Man was is just an afterthought to him. It's not impossible to connect. Given the muddled production the film had and may have kept certain things out. But I'm just putting two and two together given how much Harry grew to hate Spider-Man and Peter. Why wouldn't he tell an accomplice?

[@Johnny2Cellos]

Actually the best theory on this that I've heard!

[@dluschen9053]

Pretty sure Harry didn't find out peter was spider man until after electro was dead

[@ezraezra7273]

@@dluschen9053 oh yeah you right my bad

[@Aknight292]

If i remember correctly everyone was pulled into Tom's universe right after they found out Peter was Spider-Man. Which doc ock and electro both talk about the moment before they die as when they were pulled into MCU. The best theory is that electro overheard Gwen call Andrew's Spider-Man "Peter" after she hit Max with a car. Didn't actually know who Peter was, just knew that Spider-Man's real name was Peter.

[@Johnny2Cellos]

Oh that’s right Harry learns in that final sequence lol

[@RyanTheBeast]

My favorite lines are, Electro: “Y’all gonna sit here and act like I ain’t butt a** naked?” Or, Tobey: “Trying to do better”(to doc ock)

[@alphanerd7221]

"Then he tried to turn the whole city into Lizards. It was crazy."

[@TheDanishGuyReviews]

"I was going to, yeah."

[@callumjones9664]

the amazing spidermans flash was honestly my favourite, he showed the most potential for change and was a recurring character in the film, shown to be a jock, but humbled over the course of the film, even consoling peter when uncle ben died

[@matityaloran9157]

@Callum Jones, fun fact in Spider-Man 3, the original Flash Thompson goes to Harry Osborn’s funeral

[@callumjones9664]

@@matityaloran9157 it's been a while since I've seen spiderman 3 but nice little tidbit of info

[@alphanerd7221]

He also actually looked like the Flash.

[@Squall4229]

I have always loved Andrew Garfield, but this movie is making me stan him.

[@jesuspernia8031]

Andrew is arguably the best Spidey thing is TASM2 held him back. His performance was always top tier just held back by a messy script in the second film.

[@physical_insanity]

I still remember both audience reactions when the villains, the really good lawyer, Andrew and Tobey reappeared and when Andrew saved MJ. You can tell that everyone was both hyped and blown away by this film as it promised the impossible and achieved it effortlessly. The sheer fact that it's such a brilliant film basically excuses the downsides (whatever there are, anyway) in it, since they barely affect the story at all. God, I'm so happy I could cry.

[@hartfantom]

This movie was legit a Comicbook movie masterpiece. Up there with Endgame, Logan, X-Men First Class, Deadpool, Dark Knight Rises, and etc.

[@jesuspernia8031]

I put it above Endgame and every other MCU film. The Dark Knight imo should be the one in that list and not Dark Knight Rises. Deadpool is great but I wouldn’t call it a masterpiece. Logan is a masterpiece I’ll agree with that but I would personally replace Days of Future Past instead of First Class. Also would add the Raimi Films especially the first 2

[@s.g.7572]

Also put Into the Spider-Verse up there, but agreed that NWH is in the rankings

[@hartfantom]

@@jesuspernia8031 good for YOU lol

[@hartfantom]

@@s.g.7572 etc^^^ I’m not gonna list every comic book masterpiece lol.

[@jesuspernia8031]

@@hartfantom Yeah… that’s the point of opinions genius

[@Gabreya]

I LOVE how in NWH, it shows that the three Peter Parkers/Spider-Men work together not only as a team but as brothers. The scene where all three first meet each other was EXTREMELY EMOTIONAL and BEAUTIFUL. It showed a bond the three have despite meeting for the first time. Furthermore, it showed that despite the somewhat different ways that they've each experienced tragedy and trauma, they aren't alone. Hence, they end up working together and bonding.

[@patrickpittman538]

Andrew Garfield and Willem Dafoe absolutely stole the show, both are such fantastic actors

[@ededdneddy4ever34]

I wish people would tweet harder for a spectacular Spider-Man return. Maybe across the spider verse will capitalize on josh keatons Peter. I also want Sony to make a spin off of no way home that follows the aftermath of both Tobey and Andrew’s spider men and has a more grounded story

[@chap3509]

Isn't it already in the work ?

[@reireij4618]

I would absolutely love it if Spectacular Spider-Man could return. I recently watched the 2 seasons and I really need more. And I also like to the other ideas as well.

[@ededdneddy4ever34]

@@chap3509 is what in the work

[@chap3509]

@@ededdneddy4ever34 the spectacular spider man season 3

[@ededdneddy4ever34]

@@chap3509 I wish they were. To my knowledge no but if they did I’d be more than happy

[@unspeakableflame292]

"if you think too hard about the magic it starts to fall apart a bit but ultimately I don't think that matters it's comic book logic" I don't think I have ever heard such truer words

[@jasonguarnieri4127]

I'm so glad Andrew Garfield got the validation he deserves. I really do think all the best feel good moments in this film came from him, and it's so great to see.

[@aaronman4772]

No Way Home now joins the PS4 Spiderman game as my favorite representations of Peter Parker’s character (and based on some bits I looks like that may have been intentional since the movie seems like it takes some cues from the game.) The heart of Peter Parker is what’s most important in the movie. He could have so much if he was selfish, but instead has to be selfless because that’s just the guy he’s became. And in the end commits the ultimate selfless act, literally depersoning himself, to save everything else. A beautifully made movie that I never expected to be as good as it was. As for the going forward theories, one way I could see things going forward? Daredevil. Daredevil’s power set including being able to read the body signs of a person to know if they’re lying or tellin the truth could mean that he is the only one who learns about the sacrifice that Peter made and believed it because he could tell he was truthful. Incorporating that into a “friendly neighborhood” story about Peter fighting against the darkness that haunts in the neighborhood could be a really good way to go for a movie before the symbiote comes into play.

[@annaolesen1088]

I love all the inside jokes about the filming process too! Like how he cracks Toby’s back because Toby originally developed back problems from doing too many weird poses in spider-man.

[@AHappyBlackGuy]

Even though Tobey is my favorite overall Spider-Man I think Andrew Garfield is the best part of this movie for me. He’s just having so much fun and it’s such a joy to watch

[@ctauheedpasha1527]

Yep

[@ciaojay7025]

You feel that when he said he loves the other Spiderman is so genuine.

[@ciaojay7025]

You feel that when he said he loves the other Spiderman is so genuine.

[@himynameisnickolas]

Andrew was definitely the MVP of this movie and it’s so great for people finally giving him the love he deserves. I hope he does come back again. And also, this was for sure Tom Holland’s best outing as Web Head. He really brought his A game.

[@squimster1880]

11:23 The way that he focuses more on the jump and catching her on him, than the web shows how over the years he analyzed and analyzed how he could’ve saved Gwen. I’m so glad we got some closure for his character and now we get to see him do what he needed to do.

[@abigailaceves9230]

Oh, hell yeah. Sam Raimi’s Spider-Man was also my first experience with the character before even discovering Marvel at all.

[@Mello_me]

my favorite scene in this movie is when Garfield's Spider-Man said "I always wanted brothers". it went over my head at first but its so subtle, hes the only Spiderman where his parents were in the picture. so it makes the most sense he would be the one who even considers siblings.

[@dalfin9286]

I'm really loving these live action film essays. I guess doing a video on Star Wars would create a civil war in the comments

[@Johnny2Cellos]

Especially because I fucking love The Last Jedi 😂

[@dalfin9286]

@@Johnny2Cellos I really like that movie too! There are some things that bother me like a lot of other people, but I think it does so much right that I can forgive the stuff I don't like

[@rogueguardian]

Last thing all say is that I REALLY appreciate that Andrew and Tobey don't overshadow Tom at all, this is his trilogy and having them be like older brothers to him just made me so happy. Ahh so so good.

[@jarfd.dorkis5766]

0:28 you said it best here. This is a movie that would've been really easy to mess up. As excited as I was, I was also anxious it was gonna be a jumbled, confusing mess that tries to do too much. But the writing was really superb. It honors every Spider-Man, every villain (except maybe Sandman) and it never feels like they're trying too hard. I could've watched the 3 Spidermen banter all day long.

[@belmoon01]

the first time i saw the movie i cried like 4 times, now i've seen it 6 times and the one part that i still cry at every time is andrew's spidey catching mj 😭

[@Padaw8n]

I’ve heard people say that Tobey Maguire is the better Peter Parker and that Andrew Garfield is the better Spider-Man and I kind of agree with that. I really like how in this film they kind of went with that, if you think about it. Tobey enters without his suit, and Andrew enters suited up, and even says later “I got no time for Peter Parker stuff. . “ They both kind of show that they’ve matured and leaned in other directions, and I love that. I’m not saying Tobey gave up, but maybe he has started to make a name for Peter Parker in his world. I really think this is the best Spider-Man film. They did a really good job with it. Just the fact that they all got to be together is amazing and I think all of the actors were hyped for that. I also would love them to introduce Miles Moralis into the MCU, and I’d LOVE an Amazing Spider-Man 3. They have infinite opportunities and I think they could do really well with that. Also, Andrew has now provided my two favorite scenes in any Marvel movie. I love his talk to the beat up kid (Jorge) in the alleyway about wind-turbines, and I’m super happy he got his redemption and the scene where he caught MJ was absolutely incredible. Andrew Garfield absolutely stole the show in this movie. You were right. I thought I figured it out; why Max was in this movie. I thought he maybe just survived and heard the name Peter Parker while assembling the Sinister Six or something, but I’m not sure how he aged so much. What’s even worse is he said he was brought to this universe while fighting Peter in that end fight of TASM 2. I love electro in this movie, don’t get me wrong, and he absolutely improved it, but I’m not sure how he got in it lol. I might be missing something, and I’d really appreciate if someone commented clearing that up. Anyways, I could talk about this movie for hours, and how excited I was to see Matt Murdock but I’ve already been writing for long enough. I’m excited to see what they do next.

[@zainalakmal3034]

Well electro did say something about collecting or absorbing data to turn into pure energy.. And he said "oh shit, I was gonna die fighting spiderman"

[@Padaw8n]

@@zainalakmal3034 Well right but how did he end up in Tom’s universe 15 years older

[@robertthreadgill5356]

Well Max did say he hopes theres a black spider-man in the multiverse, maybe Jamie Foxx was foreshadowing Miles Morales

[@zainalakmal3034]

The first time max appears, he 's this blue electricity monster.. Then after he was beaten by the sand man and spidey at the time, his body started to change after he's calmed down.. Max even said, "i got my body back, whats going on"

[@TheOriginal_Unaleska]

@@Padaw8n For the sake of argument, just think he is the same age as he was in the original, because you cannot help an actor aging, lol

[@Uiselmo]

I would only be ok with a new Andrew movie if they get the right writers no matter how good of an actor you are (and Andrew is a great actor watch silence it’s my favorite performance of his) it’s not going to work. That’s one of the reason his character was so good in this movie . The writing was near perfect it also help they gave Andrew some creative control with his character

[@CR33DPlays]

Electro technically knows. Gwen shouts “peter” when she arrives and then you see Electro smiling. Electro connects the dots and this is why he’s in this film.

[@Yulises]

YES! YES! YES! I absolutely love this film for everything it pulled off!! And I largely agree with this review; although I wish some things were different with the film, I can’t lie that the Spidey fan in me was grinning and felt so euphoric with the ending of the film. It’s bittersweet for this interpretation/version of Spider-Man, but it’s so intriguing to see where they take the story. And perhaps even other versions of Spider-Man. It’s a great time to be a Spider-Man fan!

[@revelare_xvii6269]

*This film was literally a passing of the torch towards Tom Holland. With the blessings of Tobey and Andrew, he’s now set to carry on the legacy of Spider-Man on the big screen.*

[@Tomas-sk5ji]

I would love to see Tom Holland as spiderman with Miles Morales, I think it would really work.

[@wardy6224]

I disagree i personally want Miles to stay in the animated films for now. Mcu Peter has way more things to explore maybe introduce him after Toms finished playing spiderman

[@Tomas-sk5ji]

@@wardy6224 yea maybe, that would be great too

[@skinwalker2789]

I know people hate the clone saga, but I NEED TO SEE A LIVE-ACTION SCARLET SPIDER!

[@cakeface_03]

I almost cried a couple times during this movie, this is definitely one the top movies I've seen.

[@TheDanishGuyReviews]

"Also, I just realised you could talk." makes me happy, because I do NOT remember that from ASM.

[@lilytaylor4760]

Theory: with the Uncle Ben reference in the Zombie episode of What If coupled with the speech Peter gave Tony in Civil War, there was a Ben Parker in that universe, but it was May’s grief and reaction to his death that inspired Peter to be a hero. Not his own feeling of guilt that Ben died, but that he hurt Aunt May in doing so.

[@ChrisOReilly]

I would love to see Andrew return as Spiderman to go up against venom, I grew up on the OG trilogy but I loved Andrews ones even more. The only real gripe I have about no way home is that Peter broke his promise to his friends. Also, he could've easily re-introduced himself to people like Dr. Strange cause he's also a super hero so he would've kept it a secret. Especially since he would've remembered Spiderman, therefore it wouldn't have been too hard for Peter to swing in and be like "sup doc, I'm actually Spiderman"

[@Jram1120.]

Another thing I noticed is when Tom’s Spider-Man is naming all the villains and separating the cures, he can’t even say Norman’s name because of the immense hatred he has for him.

[@yuunoaboi21]

Ill never get over them being brothers and knowing each brother is so important to each other and God

[@emilymiller3362]

Best part of Andrew's Peter is when he takes on Peter 3 moniker is hilarious. He throws his arms out like he is irritated about being the left over one makes me smile. To be honest as a middle child I often have that feeling growing up. What can you really say when that is what is left.

[@jonathanring3614]

Seeing the scene in No Way Home where Tom’s Peter meets the other 2 Peters, I immediately thought about that scene in Into the Spider-Verse. But like what this guy is saying, I like how unlike Spider-Verse, we have actually gotten to grow with Tobey and Andrew’s Peters for the past 20 years, making the scene where they help Tom’s Peter MUCH more impactful. In a sense, No Way Home not just honors the past live-action Spider-Man films, but they also honor Into the Spider-Verse this way.

[@ArxGaming67]

Andrew Spider-Man was so perfect. I LOVE the fact that after Gwen (who those two have such BEAUTIFUL CHEMISTRY) dies, he becomes so angry and bitter is amazing.

[@Glitch_II]

20:30 I don't think Peter definitively decided to be Spider-Man completely alone without Ned or MJ. He of course did introduce himself, even though it was an introduction as a new person, and he also says "See you around" to MJ when he leaves with his coffee. So my theory is that he wants to become friends with Ned and lovers with MJ again, but from scratch. As in, he will probably allow them all the space they need to live their lives, whilst also trying to rekindle their relationships by slowly and naturally building up their interactions in the coffee shop etc. etc.

[@Steven_Edwards]

People can debate about who is the Best Spider-Man, but one thing is certain, Andrew is truly the Amazing Spider-Man.

[@jesuspernia8031]

Even Tobey’s Spidey said so lol

[@alien4292]

It’s so weird how No Way Home actively makes the other two mcu Spider-Man films better as we see the storyline fully and know what it’s building up to. It’s basically the opposite effect of the Star Wars sequels or Game of Thrones. Rise of Skywalker ruins any goodwill the other sequels might have built up because we know the last movie is gonna shit the bed, same thing with game of thrones, the ending ruins the first few good seasons since we know where it’s going and know the pay off is gonna be shit.

[@Johnny2Cellos]

I’m so sad they never made a sequel to The Last Jedi

[@alien4292]

@@Johnny2Cellos I like the Last Jedi (while still recognising it’s very flawed and can see why people don’t like it) but it’s so dumb that Rise of Skywalker basically just skips that movie and throws out anything TLJ had set up. So much for narrative cohesion. I’m glad Spider-Man got it right tho.

[@dannybenhur6123]

I like how Andrew's and Tom's Peter are emotionally in line with each other, and Tobey has to guide these young boys now.

[@primefamous]

Beautiful 2nd video on Spider-Man. He's my favorite too so I'm looking forward to the 90s cartoon video. I loved that series

[@mauroylospichiruchis544]

Dafoe also killed it, I know, he's Dafoe, but I think his performance this time was much better, the green gobling is such a hard character to play! I think he found the exact tone and intensity, while being in a way the exact same character, for which time didnt pass.

[@Cringycoot]

There's something i wanted to note about no way home, which i think compliments this movie interesting; the whole arc of the movie starts when peter goes to Dr. Strange and convinces him to use a risky spell to make the world forget he is Spiderman. However, Peter starts to get somewhat selfish and pressures Dr. Strange to multiply the spell in order for peter's life to be as perfect as he wanted it. this act of selfishness costs peter, making Strange lose his trust in him and causing the whole chaos that leads to the death of Aunt may and the grief that followed. Only when peter shows full willingness to give up everything in his life, by making everyone forget his mere existance, he manages to do the right thing and save everyone. I think that this scene to start the movie makes Peter not be seen as this perfect, selfless being; he did a mistake, several of them, all of which derives from his desires to do what he wants for himself, but the consequances of these selfishness always reflect back on peter and force him to make the sacrafices he ultimately has to take. Which does remind me of another scene in NWH, where the green goblin awakes in Peter's apartment, and says something along the line of: 'a kid of wants to have it all when the world wants you to choose'. Considering both the goblin's role in the movie and his general personallity as it has been established, i found it quite shocking how well he managed to read Peter's situation and thread of events in this movie.

[@lloydormsby1888]

The way he tried to talk to them in the end made me cry so hard

[@parkviewmo]

You didn't ramble. That was a coherent and comprehensive summary of the arcs and themes in NWH. Bravo!

[@rhodrage]

In order to truly appreciate No Way Home in the future, where would you watch the Raimi and Webb films in MCU order? Before the MCU films? Chronological release order? Before NWH? Would you watch all MCU films, or just ones important to the plot? Would you include the Venom films?

[@misfortunecookie]

Ultimately because of the whole thing with the villains fates supposed to be ALTERED with curing them, I would imagine even if this was your first Spider-Man movie, watching them all in release order before AND after No Way-Home would still be the best way to experience. Ideally you watch them all before this one, but if you didn't it still encourages you to go back. I love Spider-Man

[@mattfarrell9338]

If I was doing a full mcu watch I’d watch the raimi and Webb films between far from home and no way home. Definitely would skip venom since watching them barely adds anything to no way home.

[@alphanerd7221]

@@mattfarrell9338 I'd skip the Raimi movies too.

[@badusername765]

Another great Spidey vid. Would love to hear your thoughts on animated Spider-Man properties like Into the Spiderverse, Spectacular Spider-Man, etc.

[@ImDemonAlchemist]

To be clear, there was an Uncle Ben in the MCU. It's only told in subtext and little details (like the fact that Peter's suitcase has Ben's initials on it), but it seems like he died shortly before the events of Civil War. We just know now that he didn't give the "Great Poeer, Great Responsibility" speech.

[@wulfywulfynrir1296]

I finally got to watch it yesterday and I legitimately cried when Garfield saved MJ. Like, that was such a brilliant way to give closure to his character

[@calvinboucher5741]

I think I’d be down for just about any Spider-Man content from you

[@aquariussarron5444]

Agreed

[@evowastaken8900]

I remember watching No Way Home in the theaters, and when Andrew Garfield and Tobey Maguire came on screen, the whole theater erupted with applause.

[@mightymike9902]

The way the movie opened up with the disembodied voice of JJJ from the post credit scene of FFH was probably the coldest way a movie has ever opened up. It felt ominous and you just realize Peter’s life is about to completely blow up

[@Ryan-mf4pd]

Your commentary + this movie is just perfection. Love hearing you talk about Spidey

[@Emma-zd9lq]

wait if Andrew saying "I love you guys" Was improvised, does that mean that Holland and Toby replied with "Thanks." At the same time came from that? I love it.

[@Keanine]

I'd be down for a video on the 90's series! Loved that show as a kid

[@SpaceAcex]

Dude, you absolutely nailed it and totally get this character who has been so dear to me since childhood. This movie, more than any other really drove home the pure essence of Peter Parker/Spiderman. What a ride

[@danielnapa8882]

Really well said, thank you so much Johnny2Cellos

[@dannybenhur6123]

Andrew's charisma outside the movie is too great, it's like he's indirectly the biggest sales agent of the Movie.

[@traviss345]

I was never sold on the MCU version of Peter(yeah it felt like iron man Jr to me) and these characters but after seeing the character arc completed at the end of no way home I'm sold. This film also to me redeemed Andrew's spiderman after the disaster that was ASM2. I have problems with the story but truly a great film and fan service done correctly.

[@geblordofchaos2965]

I remember that when I was watching this in the cinemas, at the scene that the other two spider man's Take off their mask and reveal the previous actors, everyone started screaming, applauding, and heck, even jumping out of their seats!

[@michaelangelowazowski1076]

I literally just watched your Spider-Man video and so happy this was posted right after I watched your first vid

[@s0ul832]

It’s great seeing Tobey and Andrew back and ending it on happy terms cause their original endings were sad af.

[@jimmyneutron5755]

Ay, now we can say that Amazing Spidey kind of has a sequel now. And now there's technically a 4th Tobey movie. And the end of a trilogy

[@captainobvious90]

The homage to the Spider-Man PS4 game is great as well, we could possibly see the game universe spill into the big screen as well

[@ToMatt64]

Apparently the Electro thing happens because in the brief moment he was overload with data, before death, he figured out that Spider-Man is Peter Parker. He doesn't know who Peter Parker is, but he knows it's Spider-Man

[@coder5411]

Tobey was the best Spiderman and always will be 😭 I don't hate other two Spiderman but don't like too, because it is very hard for me to imagine someone playing Spiderman role other than him.