Communism vs. Anarchy: What Does the Bible Say?

[@shedactivist]

I wish all this was explained to me like this 40 years ago. I spent my life being skeptical of religion and it was because no one could explain it to me. Jordan's viewpoint and interpretation resonates with me in a profound way. He may not be a theologian but that is what makes his message so accessible. He get it, and he then shares it.

[@jtjones4081]

Seems JP is condemning the free for all that is social media now, using strong language like "the sociopaths, narcissists, and Machiavellians all have a voice." Agreed, so is he now advocating censoring on social media as long as he or his friends are the censors? Interesting times.

[@meihanamacdonald1408]

Im 100% in agreement with your analysis of Jordan Peterson and his ability to convey understanding to the masses concerning things theological.

[@JiraiyaSama86]

That's the thing. It was only through him that I started considering religion as a possibility for me. The topic of the video that made me really consider was about judgement and how we all orient towards something. I couldn't disprove it. I tried. Recently, I realized that maybe part of the reason why religion fell out of favor for many is because not many were understanding the messages in it. It's like - "This is a good practice!" Well why? "Because it's been around forever." That's just an example. Basically, can these practices that have been around forever be defended in a way that's satisfactory?

[@SwissCheese112]

the thing about the bible and God is that, you can approach it and discover revelations from a myriad of different angles. as a scholar of ancient greek and latin, as well as having co-majored in the social sciences (anthropology/archaeology), it is extremely interesting to me from that perspective. Currently reading Exodus to go along with Petersons round table. It is fascinating to me how God chooses not only to deal with Pharaoh but to deal with the aftermath of 430 years of judean slavery both physically and mentally. he uses passover, and all types of other physical commandments to represent something symbolic and thus create a reinforcing psyche, setting it up to resonate over the future generations of the jewish people. If we know one thing about God, its that he plays the long game.

[@jimhughes1070]

Thank God he never went to cemetery'" college

[@LeanBack_HaveASnack_TakeANap]

I always loved this explanation: Mercy is a gift when you don't get what you otherwise deserve. Grace is a gift when you get what you otherwise don't deserve.

[@israelakpan8852]

Nicely put. From that, it becomes clear that one cannot logically argue for why they deserve mercy. It’s a privilege begotten out of, and freely given by Grace to those who have have gone contrary to the Will of One who judges.

[@sweebos]

Oh man... Discussion like this is such a wonderful thing. It reminds me of campfire talks with my dad and my grandpa. I was the youngest so I'd usually just sit and listen. They didn't speak quite as eloquently, and much of the conversations were swapping stories about life experiences, but there were times that deep discussions would take place and I was gifted such wisdom from the things I heard, what they shared. I'm thankful for that time I had with them and realize what a blessing those seemingly simple moments were now that I'm a bit older. I appreciate being able to sit in on discussions like this one as well. I truly wish there were more of this in the world today. I wish more people realized what a blessing a simple discussion is and what wisdom can be gained from sitting quietly, listening to others. Thank you for sharing this.

[@shirooumu]

man this is the first time i could feel god teaching me thru these human beings and when i listen their complex ideas and try to understand them i feel deep inside, how much sense they make

[@code_solutions]

Dennis is such a great addition to this conversation. He usually disagrees with the rest of the group and gets them to think more.

[@zgobermn6895]

Incredibly stimulating conversation! Thank you all.

[@megancurran5537]

3 aggregated rules of a household or classroom: 1. We take care of ourselves 2. We take care of our things 3. We take care of each other. (This was not my idea, I learned it from a coworker and I love it because everything you do can fall into one of these three categories).

[@jessekamande632]

Uph😅❤😊

[@SanjuroSan]

I subscribed to daily wire for the full length videos and its so worth it. Each one is minimum 2 hours (so far). And they really go over this text. They talk about it off camera too so I get a sense they really are presenting their best selfs. Incredibly thoughtful and progressive dialog-os. I feel like I'm running around with a wheel barrel frantically scooping up gold nuggets and tossing them in. For the record, I rarely pay for anything. Do with that what you will.

[@rabidmisquito1]

I can't believe I'm actually considering doing the same. I wish you could buy it separately.

[@TheShootist]

great respect to all of you for being able to so graciously accept Peterson's interruptions.

[@AT-nw6cr]

Yeah he has definitely had a problem with that ever since he came out of his coma I’ve noticed. Quite a shame. I don’t think he’s even totally aware of how often he interrupts.

[@dannyreborn]

Thank you for this I actually learned a lot from this. Praise Jesus Christ.

[@elektrotehnik94]

Jordan, Jordan's audience & everyone impacted by Jordan's work benefits from this work. It's calm, engaging & challenging. It's giving sanity & a uniting structure, to the increasingly fractured societal consciousness. Important work. 🏆 This was great ❤

[@mrboyban]

Essentially vital work! Huge contributor to society since Christ as far as I can remember it :).

[@ForGlory]

Then BEWARE! If you don't IMMEDIATELY begin purging insanity--starting by purging 1) modern love, 2) queerdom and 3) queer marriage--YOU WILL FALL INTO A DARKER PSYCHOLOGICAL PIT than the rest! We read your comments, we KNOW you grasp the truth, AND YOU MUST SAVE YOURSELF BY ACTING ON IT NOW and PURGING INSANITY OUT OF THE WORLD!

[@livingadventures5623]

To be alive with access to these people is just a blessing.

[@scottlewis2579]

Amazing discussion. We are discussing Exodus in our group at church. It is easy to get lost in the details.

[@8curious]

your discussions are like nectar to the mind

[@JiraiyaSama86]

This makes so much sense. I've been having that thought for a while about how the systems being proposed against cap has had that feel of treating the people under it like children.

[@aljonserna5598]

In high school I've studied the bible for 3 years, where I learned to look for the words' etymologies and operational utility but whoa I've never looked at it that way, that way it's way more applicable and relevant to societies than just a spiritual front.

[@jackbarton4938]

I cannot express how refreshing it is, as a 32 year-old man, to hear such deep discussions of the Bible, after being raised on a spiritually meagre diet of Ricky Gervais-level, science-worshipping, bad-things-happen-so-there-is-no-God midwittery. It all started to turn around for me with the Genesis lectures.

[@the300XM8]

Generally speaking extremly anti-religion folks are a**holes. That's why I didn't like them even when I was an agnostic

[@NoSoupForYouu]

Please look into Catholic tradition, the level of depth and meaning behind everything is much more than you think on the surface. I recommend you youtube Fr Chad Ripperger, Sensus Fidelium and the SSPX channel. If you like what Jordan had to say, these guys take it home

[@strangersandpilgrims3812]

Check The Bible way to Heaven KJV on KZbin, the most incredible truth in all of scripture is that God became a man, living a perfect life and dying a sacrificial death, so that we, by faith alone in His death and resurrection may receive eternal life. 'believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and thou shalt be saved' Acts 16 31a

[@JonMurray]

This is genuinely saddening to read.

[@BlaxeFrost-X]

I love the way this discussion is going about, it's the way I always wished to analyze the bible and always thought that church did not so I walked away...

[@SurroachAbhinav1110]

Sir you are doing a great job!!!! Love your content. Love from India 💗💗

[@code_solutions]

What an amazing format for a conversation. Adding all these intellectual powerhouses makes for an incredibly interesting dialogue.

[@stephanbecker6720]

Thank you Dr. Blackwood for stating the point that we should always be conscious not to anthropomorphise these principals to much of in there Divine nature, the one also relates to the other and fucntions in a bounded nature.

[@jennah5870]

Yes! I remember telling my son, "This isn't a democracy. This is a family. And you don't get a vote in this one, kiddo."

[@jennah5870]

@Kyra Of course that's true. I don't see how my short comment brought your response unless you didn't really think about what I actually said. My son was arguing with me. What type of family decision did he not "...get a vote in this one..."? How old was he? Your reply to my comment just strikes me as odd. I absolutely agree with what you said, though.

[@Rose-qm3tn]

Huge thank you to all speakers🙏

[@bradmcgrath9993]

10:56 - the horror movie that's called "As Above So Below" speaks to this point. It's playing with the idea that hell and chaos lies beneath the surface.

[@ronaldflockhart5485]

LORD bless and protect Mr. Peterson in this investigation against him.

[@mercyotiswarren7994]

“My political opinions lean more and more to Anarchy (philosophically understood, meaning abolition of control not whiskered men with bombs). The most improper job of any man is bossing other men. Not one in a million is fit for it, and least of all those who seek the opportunity.” - J. R. R. Tolkien

[@Morrowindur]

Yeah, most of these guys don't get that anarchy simply means 'don't steal' (health, life, material possessions etc.) Everyone is a sovereign. Lying is also a form of theft (attempt at stealing the truth). Anarchy of course shouldn't exist just in a political sense, it needs to get a lot deeper. Attitudinal.

[@petertapp1963]

Unfortunately the fallen nature of man guarantees those who will seek the opportunity

[@bambilynn3124]

Loving these discussions, JP reminds me of a modern day Paul , thanks for doing this.

[@allen_tor]

Nice Bible study man.👍

[@classicalnotes539]

Love the group discussions.

[@williama.hovestreydt6623]

Im a kid in a candy store watching this

[@jordanabu1]

If this is what Bible study groups looked like, I’d be a regular!

[@picturebiblestories-yy5di]

I was part of one. Miss it dearly. Leader went to heaven...

[@jejsunsedicka7504]

I agree. Too many christian leaders overlook the knowledge presented in the bible and only focus on going to heaven. Yes we want people to be saved but there are a plethora of knowledge lessons / skills the bible has to offer people who do not believe in heaven.

[@Rest-in-JesusChrist7788]

So glad you like the King James Bible, Dr. Jordan. Because it truly is the best translation.. 🙏✝️❤️

[@michaelhayes1205]

In the UK form of governance it is my understanding that there is the monarch, the House of Lords, the House of Commons/MP's. The MP's are elected by the people/commoners. Therefore the MP's are the 'trusted servant's' of the people to represent their views. (I sometimes seriously question if MP's see themselves as such). They are entrusted by their electorate to look after the electorate's best interests.

[@sarahamaral2931]

When God’s grace “breaks” in, all psychological arguments about inherent personality don’t have any legs to stand on.

[@bubbaandrayearl1678]

There's a whole lot of intelligence around that table. I always learn from Doctor Peterson.

[@adamgolding]

As widely discussed elsewhere, our large organizations are SOCIOPATHIC and what's described here is the reason: things are reduced to contractual obligation

[@adamgolding]

Worker-management is the structure you should be discussing, which you would know about if you hadn't run from debating Richard Wolff with your tail between your legs.

[@ResoluteRonin]

I think all politicians should have to go undergo regular psychological assessments in order to obtain and maintain their positions.

[@RobertJohnson_Zeppo]

Ten years of hard labor to qualify for running for office to begin with. That's just to get their minds right. Making sure they stay right isn't a bad suggestion either.

[@britanikothegreat8513]

1King 3:5-14. Ecclesiastes 7:29. Job 1:6-8. Isaiah 5:20. Santa Fe. Psalms 144:9. Blaze of Glory. Matthew 3:11-15.

[@benitomontemayor873]

Why do I like this group? Meeting of the minds. I love them without immaculate conception. I used to fly over that navigation station in Mexico.

[@palmtree9815]

Dr Peterson could you please do a seminar on how to parent disagreeable conscientious children!!???? And the other types as well.

[@mr.orange8205]

Thanks for doing this Dr. Peterson. Very interesting.

[@TheCausticThinker]

On 6:16 maybe we can relate this matter with "matter" to the case of the term "literal", once it's used to caracterize actual/factual things, but is derived from literacy, that relates to something more abstract and fantastic.

[@alanknewman4294]

In a world full of charities there appears to be No Justice, when in fact Justice is Total because it's unmerciful to the unmerciful.

[@tedclemens4093]

Here we have the organics of the 613 commandments. They weren’t to set a standard by which God would judge the individual, but how the people would judge disputable matters.

[@Hellyers]

These are such good videos!

[@bunsandbutter600]

This footage is gold

[@117Industries]

Where did you get that idea from Peterson, that the word ‘matter’ carries the intimation of meaning by relation to the phrase ‘it [or that] matters’? Neat idea 💡

[@MsMichelleangel]

Would love to replace order with the word harmony, and see where the conversation journey's

[@pb6901]

Jesus bless you.

[@ivanrock2826]

Sorry the Peacekeeper Peacemaker thought was from Ivan Rock in New Zealand

[@davidkazira6060]

I've been saying this for so long now. Some things just don't scale well.

[@Snarflelocker]

Great videos and I just love JP getting totally derailed by a small bit of matter haha

[@Griemmy]

This is like watching an all star game

[@peacockLife]

hell no Sir! my children are my friends BUT they know not to get out of line

[@bubbaliburtee8657]

"There's no indication that the ethos of compassion scales." In the middle of a Bible study. Benzos; not even once.

[@cjfredi]

You have to give the devil his due. Thank you always JP!

[@Phoenix-Brah]

Thank you Dr. Peterson

[@KeithKnightDontTreadonAnyone]

A child is someone you chose to create, communism is about coercion not choice. So no families that share are in no way communist.

[@ktoth29]

The patriarchy is an evolutionary adaptation. The more complicated the system, the more compassion starts to look like corruption, so masculine conscientiousness is necessary to keep things running.

[@gustolehmann7164]

Soaking in all this knowledge gives me a profound sense of wisdom like I'm going to university right here on the couch.!!! Haha seriously tho I do feel smarter after all these

[@rezaerfani776]

Social media is not a platform where everyone can shout at the same time. There are few successful people on Twitter. The average person would be more heard speaking to the people around them. Their tweets are probably mostly ignored.

[@msmd3295]

You’re not “materialist” if you believe in spirits, the supernatural, god, Devil, etc. and that everything there is depends on spirit.

[@Michaelwilliamabbott1976]

Neither. Christ say to reject both. We are not to love this world. ( materialism)

[@benitomontemayor873]

When you reject Madonna, life is way better. Make Madonna dig her own ditches!

[@jasonk8775]

If you are capable of understanding that statement enough to actually ask it. Then you should know the answer is no. Which is why parenting is hard and should be hard. You take care of kids only to prepare then to make good decisions themselves. Not giving them the unearned.

[@jennymcgowin9140]

ALWAYS so damn interesting!

[@peteryoungbloodhills1558]

I would like to add my two cents please. I have come to consider Mercy is Context. And context matters 😅 ❤

[@danCK1990]

please for heaven sake please bring on john lennox and david berlinski for their thoughts on the history of israel rebelling against god in the desert

[@keithjohnsonYT]

I’m pretty sure it was Shakespeare, who said that the question is, “to be, or not to be…”, so why do I seem to remember a member of The Grateful Dead, saying, “I’ve seen entire realities crumble and fall…”? (And, what IS inside that big black box in Mecca?…gold?…virgins?…a Whirled Trade Center?) ✌️

[@MrDarryl1958]

In Biblical Hebrew, the name for womb is 'compassion', (if I am understanding a Rabbi David Fohman correctly). But "wombness" has a ruthlessness to it, as most embryos do not make it past the first stages. Even if mercy of the womb is unconditionally and infinitely giving, it is not really just sugar and spice and everything nice. Viability itself is being first judged at the level of the womb. Death is the greater compassion for those deemed non-viable by the womb itself, by the woman at the level of bodily, mostly non-conscious decision. The judgment of the womb precedes the judgment of justice like Rosh Hashana precedes Yom Kippur day of judgment by 10 days. The joy is of a womb that deems the person within fit for life at the beginning of a life; the day of atonement and repentance is for how we fall short of the promise of the womb. Likewise, justice has the element of compassion within it. The arbitrary severity of the rule giver's authoritarianism is a merciful reprieve from the cruelty of living in a state of chaos and in a nature red in tooth and claw, a world of all against all.

[@cartoons981]

if you were born into relegious reality where shame , honour , stoning, hanging , lashes, etc etc are common ? . what would be your version of right and wrong compared to now ?

[@ankibroos-klik1907]

Backround wall photo is rather ugly.

[@buffhooper7417]

Someone tell me what you think about what is said between minute 4:57 and 5:38. This guy makes a comment that is completely dropped and ignored.

[@ivanrock2826]

Just a thought Jordan. You talk about Moses being a Peacekeepers like Alpha monkeys who are Peacemakers. Peacekeepers try to shut down conflict whereas Peacemakers try to make peace.

[@jimhughes1070]

Yes, a million laws, regulations and bureaucratic BS like we have here in the United States! Indeed a horrible situation!... Unfortunately, that's human nature...

[@bernardodelatorre5243]

Jordan Peterson is a Genius, so when he starts using words incorrectly i'm highly suspicious. Totalitarianism is not the same as communism, thats a fact.

[@drewdavidson663]

Is JP finally starting to listen to Alan Watts?

[@dougsammons2228]

To get the understanding of a subject of a word of a scripture, is to ask the questions who what where when why and sometimes how,,,nouns and pronouns and the situation, declare the intended understanding,,, using the strong's exhaustive concordance is helpful,, but challenge it as well, for I have found error in it,,, have a study.

[@TheJimmybobtimmy]

Certainly rules are needed, the issue comes when the conscientiousness is misguided conscientiousness. If the rules are the wrong rules, or even a mix of right rules with wrong rules, then history proves eventually they will be dismantled with the replacement of the rules-based macro system with a more "lawless" macro system. Eventually this creates chaos, and so a rules-based system again prevails - yet imperfect, and so the pendulum continues to swing.

[@117Industries]

Thanks for saying this, because these idiots are trying to skip the exciting bit of the process. But in all seriousness, you *cannot* just skip the anarchy stage. And if this round table of clowns thinks they’re guaranteeing thrones in the coming dystopian landscape because they’ve spat out a couple of 5th grade truths- thennnnn they’re _sorely_ mistaken. Two problems with their delusions of grandeur. 1) None of these fellas are visionary. In the least. Hell, Jordan’s middle name is Shillerton, no? Sometimes I have to echo check the room when I watch his videos because I can’t count the times I sit there retorting ‘I’ve said that myself 🤔’… 2) These processes aren’t driven by vision alone, but the Promethean Will required to *enact* that vision. And I don’t see a second Prometheus among this gaggle of yester-conservative Priests- do you? 😅

[@Raptanax]

Anarchy works on the micro every day, all the time. The problem is, anarchy works based on mutual trust and knowledge. As soon as you start interacting with people you don't know, you need money and a variety of other 3rd parties to serve for arbitration.

[@anonuser7157]

Short answer - NO

[@williama.hovestreydt6623]

what a table of talent

[@adamgolding]

where are the women?

[@apm9507]

@@adamgolding on The View?

[@alvareo92]

@@adamgolding next time

[@rahulchintapatla7097]

The Jewish guy out here spitting facts

[@rezaerfani776]

“Mercy in the micro and justice in macro”. What a mundane thing to come up with. That’s not what spiritualism or wisdom are about: in observing one self honestly one comes to see sins then understand the right path ardently. Bringing people to this understanding is the only way and justice (in the sense used here) is just failure to do so. Justice then is practical: lock up someone so they can’t do harm, for example.

[@drewdavidson663]

Yale psychologist Paul Bloom has good info on empathy being myopic and biased.

[@oliverman6168]

Brilliant.

[@junevandermark952]

The word communism stemmed from the word commune, which means to share the wealth equally among each other. There has never been a government that shares the same amount of wealth with the people, as occurs with the rulers of governments. That is hyperbole. The best we can hope for is to avoid dictatorship, which is where one person, such as Vladimir Putin, or Adolf Hitler, rules over their whole country, and would like to rule over the whole world.

[@walk2here37]

Interesting you just mention Putin. What about whoever runs WEF? Or the ruler of China?

[@junevandermark952]

@@walk2here37 I would rather have leaders of many countries such as the WEF run an organization ... than to have a man such as Putin run his own personal dictatorship. What do you think about the following want-to-be dictatorship? From the book ... Guide for Living … Pope Pius XII … Selected Addresses and Letters of His Holiness World Government Address to members of the Universal Movement for World Federation, April 6, 1951: Your movement gentlemen, aims at bringing into being an effective political world organization. Nothing is more in line with the traditional doctrine of the Church nor more adapted to her teaching regarding just and unjust war, particularly at the present juncture.

[@papaofthewoods5979]

This is all nice and all that but you know what ? People today hate God and all this kind of conversation. They have been deceived into believing Jesus doesn't love them and or there is no way to salvation for them. They are bitter and all they have experienced or heard is religion with no power. God help us. We need the power of the Holy Spirit everyday, now more than ever. When people cry out to God , he shows up. That's what we need.

[@fulviobennato]

I'm so turned on lol like my mind is rushing with insights That's intellectual ecstasy

[@mehowkielan1984]

It's such a backwards direction of interpretation. Nowadays we have so much more texts with much better and simpler abstracts to explain these things - psychology, values, virtues - and yet some people, more conservative ones I'm guessing, still insist on the reinterpretation of bible, like it's still the only one book that's available. And I get the value of that, because it's history, tradition and rituals and people are much more willing to fight and die for that, and there is still a majority of world population willing to die for a different ancient book that has served their ancestors, so that's useful in this context. But it's mostly just sad and scary.

[@johnbaesv4776]

imagine 5 post Comunism countryes feeling the same all together ... so sad !

[@angelbianchi4786]

I wish he'd use a different version 😄 like ESV or something.

[@dantheman909]

Yeah KJV is hard to listen too. No one talks like this anymore. The whole point of the KJV was to give people a Bible that they could understand clearly. Ironic that we now revert back to it simply for tradition or to sound intelligent. There are more readable versions that still maintain the meaning of the Bible.

[@strangersandpilgrims3812]

No, the KJV is the preserved word of God in the English language. Translated from the correct Greek and Hebrew manuscripts, unlike modern versions. Check out 'New world order Bible versions' to see what I'm talking about.

[@strangersandpilgrims3812]

@@dantheman909 the KJV was not written in the language of its time, it was written to be the most accurate (perfect) translation of God's word in English

[@riaandoyle8196]

It's to "protect" you , not to take away from you.. Treat others as you want to be treated ,and Love you're neighbour as youreself ... There are men that if you sleep with their wife that wil kill you and thus end youre life on earth in this earthly body ..... But,if you Love others , you won't sleep with their wife , and so you might not be killed by him ... is that a good or bad condition ? If you Love another human , you won't steel his car , cause it wil bring Him stress , financial loss , and alot of other things , and you can end up in jail ..... is it a bad condition or a bad condition ...... It's to help you and not to take anything away from you ! It's to protect you ....

[@Cinderella227]

Moses was very attitudy

[@alejandromolina5645]

Communism, Fascism and liberalism and dictatorships of all types is about government control. Freedom, conservatism is about individual rights taking priority over government control. The further right you go the smaller government gets, the greater individualism becomes. The Apex would be self governance and dealing your own justice and law. Anarchy is the furthest right.

[@richierich8245]

Patriotism is an egotistic delusion that facilitates the carnage of nationalism. That statement shouldn't be controversial among anarchists, so does that sound right-wing to you?

[@NoSoupForYouu]

conservatism is NOT "freedom" as we know it today. The modern term of freedom is a liberal term.

[@johnniedilangcruz9287]

"Every single human being will have their own gender" ---- LMAO. Shout out to them. ahahaha This made my night. xD

[@bioches]

We are socialist with our family. Communists with our community. Democrats with our State. Republicans with our Country. Quoted from some author

[@paulwilliams9250]

Micro and macro natural laws

[@GetYaWhat]

the ending hahahahah

[@jamesbarlow6423]

I think that his most recent difficulties have more to do with alleged unprofessional behavior than it does criticism of the government per se, doesn't it? I mean, "Poor people eat too much food" or "climate doesn't exist" aren't direct critiques of any government, are they? I lost interest in what he is saying when I checked out his assertion that "lack of serotonin is the cause of depression"; it turns out there is no scientific basis for that whatsoever. Then I looked into him further only to discover his claims, "I am an evolutionary biologist," and "I am a neuroscientist" to both be false: he's always only had a doctorate in cognitive psychology. I've always intensely disliked and mistrusted paucity of intellectual integrity... ..."There is a false saying: 'How can someone who cannot save himself save others?' Supposing I have the key to your chains, why should your lock and my lock be the same?" ~ Friedrich Nietzsche

[@brindlebriar]

I've admired Jordan since he first stepped onto the public scene, but lately he's drawing wrong conclusions, imo. The authoritarian insanity of the left seems to be driving him to a reactionism of shrinking towards an authoritarian Right. - of looking for fire to fight fire. - of retreating into the pyramid where he hopes he and his friends can serve as the All-seeing Eye. 'The people had their shot;' I hear him saying lately, 'and they came up with Leftism, and _that's not good enough;_ so we, the reciprocally-appointed intellectual elites must take over and rule benevolently, by our superior wisdom.' Taking the side of Hamilton against Jefferson. Didn't he advocate, regarding Twitter, that most people should effectively no longer be allowed to tweet? That all tweets except those of 'blue check' people should be auto-filtered out? And that no one should be able to express an opinion anonymously? What's happening is that the chaos of the present is triggering an instinct to retreat to the more familiar past. But that won't work. You can never go back. And who cares if everyone has their own gender? Nobody will be able to keep track, so it will become meaningless anyway. The problem resolves itself if allowed to reach completion. And what _is_ that process? It looks a lot like a manifestation of the general pattern of individuation, to me. What the people in this circle don't seem to understand is that what got us here won't keep us here. It's _already_ not keeping us here. It's never the case that what's worked thus far, will keep working. The present always collapses under the weight of its faults if it doesn't perpetually re-invent itself. It's the steady improvement that gives people enough hope to put up with the faults of their present structures. It's the knowing that they are temporary and in process of improvement. Otherwise, they'd be soul-killingly unacceptable. Nor do they seem to understand how bad 'here' is. Maybe they've been reading Steven Pinker's nonsense about how it's better to be suicidal with smart phones and longer life spans than happy without smart phones and with shorter life spans. A similar reactionism against the utopianism of the Left has caused Jordan and many dark web personalities to be anti-utopian. My God, man! If you're not aiming at the best you can imaginable, what are you aiming at? The idea that, since some people aimed for what they thought would be perfect, and instead produced Hell, therefore one shouldn't aim for perfection is... insane. What are you gonna aim at? 90% good and 10% bad? I've never heard of anything as defeatist as that. That's like saying, if there were a room full of babies about to get slaughtered, 'Well, we should save some of them, but not all. Leave a few to maintain a balance between good and evil. And if _nobody's_ getting tortured we'll have to torture a few." Well, that Eastern 'Middle-Path' shit of 'striking a balance between good and evil' is _definitely_ not Christian. Definitely not the religion of Jesus. He was an absolutist for good, and a Utopian. He called it by such names as, 'The Kingdom of Heaven.' It's time to re-imagine the species from first principles, rather than from our current structures. Michael Malice is on the right track with Anarchism. But these gentlemen are retreating into centralized power to oppose the policies of centralized power that they don't like. But there's no moral basis for the centralized power itself. A 'social contract' imposed without consent is no contract. That's a euphemism for slavery. No matter how wise you think your decisions will be, you don't have the right to make them for others. It's a moral issue; has nothing to do with practical outcome. But no practical outcome can be good enough if it is accomplished immorally. It may be better, temporarily, than an even worse evil. But we did that already. We can't stay here. Every situation short of perfection leads a gas chamber on a leash, and to say, 'we've come this far, but no further,' is to walk into it. It works that way, because that's a moral failure. It's to accept the evils of the current situation. To lack the courage to try to destroy them. To try to keep a civilization that has gone wicked from collapsing is to pay the price in virgins to keep the dragon satisfied. But you don't have the right to sacrifice even 1 virgin to save 1,000 people. Not even one. You're supposed to fight the dragon. Do you diver the train to kill 1 person in order to save 5? No. You're not supposed to do that. It's not a numbers game. It's not about outcomes. It's a morality game. You must not participate in evil. You must not uphold a structure, for convenience, that is not perfect. That's the broad, easy road of the wicked. You're supposed to modify it until it's perfect. And if it becomes too resistant to the modifications of improvement, then it has to be destroyed, even at the cost of everyone's lives. Better that we ALL die than that we accept evil. To _be_ evil, yes, but not to _accept_ it. Not to settle for it. And anything that is not perfect, is partly evil. Don't retreat into the evil you know, in fear of the evil you don't know. Instead, always look for the good you don't know yet.