Josh Pate On Florida Netflix Documentary - MORE Takeaways (Late Kick Cut)

The Florida Swamp Kings Netflix documentary has been released recapping Urban Meyer's time in Gainesville during the late 2000s and the great run the Gators went on. On Late Kick Live Ep 420 Josh Pate shared some of his takeaways on episodes 2 and 3. What was it like for Urban Meyer to discover how hard it was getting a team back up after winning a title? What do you think of the documentary glossing over many of the legal issues the program faced at the time? Let us know what you think in the comments below and be sure to SUBSCRIBE to the channel and CLICK THE BELL for notifications as we bring you multiple live shows per week!
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[@LateKickwithJoshPate]

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[@Yuhh6612]

I need to know why age isn’t real

[@kweli05]

It must’ve been great going to UF as a sports fan during this time. Two championships in football, two championships in basketball, all within three years. As a UGA fan, I must say this was very impressive.

[@saturnosiris1221]

I bet it was really great if you love true crime sagas. A real life gang of thugs led by a televangelist constantly on one knee praying that one of his teammates doesn't murder him, twenty three felons, and a serial killer, all in 5 years. Sounds like a bunch of swampkings to me. LMFAO

[@kweli05]

@@saturnosiris1221 😂 alright, alright

[@saturnosiris1221]

@@kweli05 I know I know I got a little excited. Sorry, thank you for being a good sport.

[@kweli05]

@@saturnosiris1221 No problem. It’s true though. Those boys were wild down there.

[@johndbro1]

It was a very exciting time for us. I still have some t-shirts

[@kevinbond8966]

I saw the canned Gatorade on the special and was instantly flashed back to being 10 years old.

[@MidnightHozz]

It's a fun watch for any college football fan but it's a puff piece. They should have had a full episode talking about the 30+ arrests and multiple felonies.

[@CoolHandLuke813]

So you want an entire 45 minute episode devoted to nothing but players getting arrested. Idk about that. That would be like having a whole episode of The Last Dance be about nothing but Michael Jordon gambling lol.

[@kadencaldwell]

@@CoolHandLuke813completely different scenarios lol

[@CoolHandLuke813]

@@kadencaldwell it’s the negative aspect of both situations is what I’m saying though. That’s the common denominator. I know you’re smart enough to see that.

[@MidnightHozz]

@@CoolHandLuke813 I'm saying out of 4 parts, a quarter of that could have easily been devoted to the dark side of Urban's run at UF. It was unusual even for the SEC which embraces cheating/ignoring rules/breaking laws like no other conference.

[@CoolHandLuke813]

@@MidnightHozz I get what you’re saying. I mean I definitely think they could’ve delved more into the dark side of it all. I’m not saying they shouldn’t have. But I do think devoting an entire episode to that stuff is a bit much too. What they could’ve done is bring up more things as they happened chronologically throughout the timeline. Like mentioning how a key player got suspended for a DUI right before the 09 rematch with Bama. Stuff like that.

[@grant2790]

It was a puff piece. They glossed over the 30 arrests, Hernandez, Rainey, Cam Newton stealing a laptop and Urban Meyer's "cough cough" illiness that he had to leave. Must have been done by a Gator grad.

[@aroro13]

U don’t get urban or Tebow with all that. Without urban or Tebow u got no doc.

[@CoolHandLuke813]

Riley Cooper never did anything regrettable while at UF. It was never proven that Hernandez did anything while at UF either. Although, the Cam Newton angle would’ve been interesting, I agree.

[@Senio25]

What happened with Cooper? I think I missed that 1. I remember the others

[@bobbydrillboids2430]

@@Senio25the biggest thing I heard with Riley Cooper is that he called somebody the N word at a country music concert, but that happened a couple years into his NFL career. It wasn’t a great look for him.

[@CoolHandLuke813]

@@Senio25 He used a racial slur. That was the controversial thing he did. But he did it years after he was at UF so it would’ve been a stretch to include that in the doc.

[@Jeremylee2]

Zach at Menace 2 Sports has a great take

[@massiveattack777]

I second that 👍🏼👍🏼

[@carhauler1065]

I Agree

[@IWjake]

Oh the Publix reference 😂😂

[@johndbro1]

I was considering watching the Netflix series, but it's much more efficient to watch you summarize it. Thank you :)

[@MBarberfan4life]

Gatorade: is it in you?

[@slchambers1]

I haven’t watched the documentary but lived during it and it was pretty cool. Go Gators

[@Deontelewis846]

😮‍💨😮‍💨😮‍💨 my boy the mid 2000’s and early 2010’s were MARVELOUS

[@kf7197]

‘07 was my freshman year of college AKA the craziest year ever. I remember watching the #2 team in all the land, the UNIVERSITY OF SOUTH FLORIDA BULLS take on WVU. Just bananas year. Pate is right. Games were louder, fans were crazier. My generation had the best of both words - preadvanced iPhone football and the crazy games that came in that time, then the insane ramp up of tech. ‘07-‘10 college football still my favorite era

[@CoolHandLuke813]

Mid to late 2000s were indeed such a wonderful time for CFB

[@bosmith1820]

A lot of bad national championships during those years. USC blows out Oklahoma, Florida blows out Ohio State, LSU blows out Ohio State, Alabama dominates Texas without Colt McCoy, etc. ..

[@CoolHandLuke813]

@@bosmith1820 yeah and the one this last year was fantastic 🤪🤣

[@bosmith1820]

@@CoolHandLuke813 Ouch. Got me!

[@CoolHandLuke813]

@@bosmith1820 lol, it’s all good. I get what you were saying.

[@thebigwagyu]

The one thing that gives me some confidence, is that Florida historically has had that super athletic, run and gun QB that always gives Tennessee fits. Mertz isn’t that guy, and I don’t mean that with any disrespect, we just usually play pocket passers pretty well.

[@truckingmogul3254]

Probably the best era of college football

[@ChickenBoneNews]

Thanks for letting me know about it. I watched all of it and man I got fired up for this season. Go Georgia Bulldogs 🏈🏈🏈

[@kweli05]

I hated how they did the Dawgs in 08 ( the year after the end zone celebration). They really rubbed it in our faces, and Meyer called timeouts near the end of the game to prolong it.

[@joshstein3772]

@@kweli05It’s the appropriate retaliation for showing a complete lack of respect in 2007 when your whole damn football team was parading around on the field like a bunch of imbeciles

[@christophersimmons5396]

And too Me 2007 was one of the craziest year in College Football ever..

[@dominiclowe3640]

I was there at rock vs hogan

[@fsupenguin]

If you are a Gator fan you will enjoy it, if you are not, then it wasn't good at all. Just a love fest for Urban Meyer and bunch of talking with Tebow. Ignored virtually all the issues with Hernandez, Pouncey brothers, Harvin.

[@CoolHandLuke813]

What issues with Hernandez, Percy, and the Pouncey bros would you have liked for the documentary to have covered?

[@Dc-dp6go]

@@CoolHandLuke813everything. Hernandez and his issues there are relevant to what led to his ultimate demise. Percy and his issues with concussions. Getting into a fight with a receiver coach I believe. Cam Newton situation etc. so much was left out.

[@CoolHandLuke813]

@@Dc-dp6go I definitely would’ve liked to have seen more. It’s just hard to talk too much about stuff with Percy or the Pounceys when they declined being in the documentary. Like it would be kinda weird mentioning all of these personal stories and details about certain people when they themselves aren’t even there to give their side of it.

[@joshstein3772]

@@CoolHandLuke813Exactly. I don’t know what people expected with Urban and Tebow and Brandon Siler actually signing off on this and being there. It’s like if they wanted all that dirty stuff broadcasted, then you don’t get the cast, and then it’s just pure speculation l, which isn’t what people want to see.

[@crittoneida958]

​@joshstein3772 U can't see why folks consider this a fluff piece with pretty much everything we already knew but with really cool inside home videos? In terms of what we expected to see, it is titled "Untold Stories"....we expected untold stories...

[@ericciaramella1984]

UF had gatorade can vending machines on campus during those 05-10 years.

[@tylerlogan833]

In response to your comment about how loud LSU stadium is, I don't doubt it. People from Louisiana are just loud in general. I'm not sure why that is.

[@jameservin1333]

Not a gator fan but this was good

[@tjlift22]

It was pretty good but I like this Florida team a lot better 🤣🤣🤣. Well atleast the one over the last couple of years

[@martinrosario4018]

I thought it was cool but man did they prop up urban to be a saint 😂 and they left a lot of stuff on how Urbans run ended there, they mentioned some of the arrests but it was wayyy worse than what the doc actually showed lol

[@CoolHandLuke813]

How much worse are we talking?

[@martinrosario4018]

@@CoolHandLuke813 way worse they don’t mention his “heart attack” Percy choking out the wr coach, newton, Hernandez, pouncey twins, Zach smith, Riley cooper, the 2010 season, dunlaps dui before the 09 sec championship basically the real meat and potatoes, only showing just surfaced stuff everyone knew already

[@CoolHandLuke813]

@@martinrosario4018 I hear you. Interesting. I actually didn’t know about Percy and the choking thing. What specifics would you have liked to see with the Pounceys and Hernandez?

[@martinrosario4018]

@@CoolHandLuke813 I mean Hernandez has his own doc as is which I get why they didn’t delve into him but they should’ve acknowledged it at least and the same with the pouncey twins I heard they were wildin out too getting in brawls etc

[@CoolHandLuke813]

@@martinrosario4018 I hear you. Yeah that’s my thing when people bring up Hernandez. I’m like dude already has an entire doc to himself. Plus most of the juicy stuff with him happened way after he was done at UF anyway. But yes I definitely agree that I wish they had spent some time on the Pounceys. It’s really a bummer that they couldn’t get them or Percy to be in the doc. I guess that’s partially why they kinda shied away talking about them more. But I’m sure they reached out to them to be in it. They just didn’t want to for whatever reason. They really would’ve made it better though. They could’ve shared their stories.

[@umbreonix]

They should’ve talked about how the heisman committee screwed Darren McFadden in favor of Tebow. Arkansas fans will never let that go.

[@joshstein3772]

Tebow literally broke Herschel Walker’s all-time rushing record. So, yeah, he definitely deserved it over McFadden. McFadden was a hell of a player, but he didn’t break Herschel Walker’s record like Tebow did.

[@umbreonix]

@@joshstein3772 yeah that’s not what I meant. The year before Tebow won, the heisman committee admitted that they gave it to Troy smith over Darren McFadden because they had never given it to a sophomore before and they were confident mcfadden would get it the next year. The next year, McFadden finished runner up again (only player to ever do that) because the committee broke their rule and gave it to a sophomore. Not Tebows fault, but Arkansas fans hate him because of it. We’ll, that and the game where Arkansas had tebows team beat in Gainesville and the refs cheated their ass off.

[@saturnosiris1221]

They should definitely make a part 2 but they should let A&E do it since they are so experienced at making shows about criminals. Netflix certainly left out the fact that his 5 years at Florida produced the most felons in NCAA history including a freaking serial killer. However Swamp kings definitely seems fitting for a title since First 48 was taken. LMFAO

[@chrisguzman5295]

It seems rushed good doc but somethings off and even without knowing anything about the gators or the urban era you get a sense that stuff is left outn

[@jazamaraz8029]

Is it only me or does Tim Tebow sound like Jim Caviezel?

[@blakeharrison3972]

Their cameraman wanted to show everyone puking

[@007leet]

Canned Gatorade is amazing but way too much sugar. 40% DV of sugar in one 12oz can

[@truckingmogul3254]

You just had to be there

[@wingt4thewin625]

College Football has not yet begun to peak. - Dennis

[@XCruzzerX89]

Nice save with the loud comments

[@RCJH2022]

They totally glossed over *ALL THE INTERESTING STUFF* Hernandez, arrests, drugs, shootings. didnt talk about it at all or just barely mentioned it in passing.

[@SoSickRick]

6:37 you better tread carefully…

[@cwellsjr4270]

If this was a hit piece and it showed the real untold behind the scenes I would watch it but its not so I won't

[@seanakima50515e]

Would Sabans Dynasty have started if Urban had not left Florida?

[@Gatornation2020]

I liked the part in episode two, where they shit and stomped on the buckeyes. The media and Buckeye nation was talking so much shit and they’re the one that ate it.

[@TrevorMaricle-cd6gl]

Well I'm not a gator fan and I thought it was really good

[@jessepaiz6356]

This is the issue with documentries. They often turn into fluff pieces where shitty human beings can pave over their legacies in exchange for the name value of their involvement. What would have been a good documentry has been ruined by Urban Meyer and Pastor Tebow.

[@CoolHandLuke813]

What would you have liked to see in it that would’ve made it better for you?

[@Jon155mt]

Agreed 100%

[@vinnythewebsurfer]

It’s a toothless fluff piece.

[@SoSickRick]

Imo canned Gatorade is gross and has a metallic taste

[@zacharylansing]

Oklahoma beats Florida that game with demarco Murray.

[@curtishenderson9293]

No they don't 💯💯🐊🐊

[@theNfl_Esq]

It was very well done. Definitely worth watching.

[@Berley_1234]

i just wonder how FL got the Netflix deal.... i mean AL? UGA? Ohio state?

[@bosmith1820]

I'm sure there will be a Bama one eventually. Florida during the 00's was interesting. You had a lot of larger than life personalities. Say what you want about Tebow, but he was about as famous as a college athlete ever has been while in college.

[@Berley_1234]

@@bosmith1820 he was a showman for sure. i'm not sure if his personality or his ability were tops

[@bosmith1820]

@@Berley_1234 Yeah it was a combination of both. His personality combined with being a great college qb similar to Manziel(although obviously different in who they are, both giant personalities).

[@ianvaughn9775]

When is the Bowden Dynasty review coming?

[@CoolHandLuke813]

Sadly, it wouldn’t be as good now that Bowden himself isn’t here anymore to do interviews for it.

[@joshstein3772]

Who cares

[@darrellludlow]

Today's attendees are not interested in experiencing the moment. They'd much rather make sure they took video so they can prove to their friends they were there. In the end, few people will really care what you have on your phone. But seeing the action with your own two eye or feeling the energy of those around you can never be replicated.

[@mikeliner5206]

Waiting to see what LSU is going to do!!!💜💛🖤🤎

[@ShantyIrishman]

Urban successfully gaslighted or is it gaslit? Pate, homie threw Cam Newton off the team and he won a Heisman… That’s why he stopped throwing players off the team.

[@CoolHandLuke813]

Cam was never officially kicked off the team. He was suspended after he stole a laptop and got in some 💩 over that. By the time that was all wrapped up, his relationship with the coaches wasn’t very good anymore so he decided to transfer. So he transferred. He wasn’t kicked off.

[@adityag485]

@@CoolHandLuke813 Not true, I go to UF, he was suspended for that but he was also about to get kicked off the team cause apparently he committed "academic dishonesty" 3 different times so he was facing expulsion anyways it wasn't cause of the relationship with the coaches, cause he nearly went to Miss St as Dan Mullen was the coach there

[@adityag485]

Also he stopped throwing players off the team cause of the whole Avery Atkins situation not cause of Cam, Cam won the hesiman after Urban already resigned once

[@CoolHandLuke813]

@@adityag485 I went to UF too. No need to play the superiority card dude lol. But anyway, well, being expelled is not the same thing as being kicked off the team anyway. That means the University made him leave and not the coach. So, we are both still making the same point here regardless, which is that Cam was never kicked off the team by the coaches. He dug his own grave at UF because he was and has always been a complete idiot.

[@Jon155mt]

Everybody’s just arguing semantics on “expelled” vs “kicked off” lol. Bottom line is Urban didn’t kick players off the team just because they were too talented and he knew they’d help the team win, not just because that one kid passed away a whole year after being kicked off the team. Urban is just trying to rewrite the narrative of him refusing to hold players accountable when anyone with common sense can see right through that bs.

[@jfigfsu]

i heard it was a fluff piece for urban meyer? have no desire to watch this..... did they include tony joiner's story? guy broke into a police impound- got grand theft auto for stealing his own car. urban meyer: "it would be impossible for me to comment on this matter because i do not know all of the details." few years later, the same urban meyer claims (on a college football set) "if jameis winston was on his team and he screamed obscenities in the student union, he would do the right thing and suspend him."

[@theNfl_Esq]

I’m an Aggie and have been to all the major stadiums in the country. LSU is by a lot the loudest and most difficult place I’ve ever been. Kyle Field is loud but we r too civilized. Tuscaloosa has had too much success so they don’t get too loud anymore.

[@tjlift22]

Not a Florida fan at all but it was pretty good. I like Florida alot better these days 🤣🤣🤣

[@Charles-bi3es]

Idk what the difference was but the bcs Era was my favorite Era of college football. There was so much controversy that gave way to so much debate and popularity for the sport.

[@CoolHandLuke813]

For sure. It made every game matter too. These days, most teams will get a mulligan after losing a big game.

[@Lachronix]

There were no rules in the BCS era. That’s the difference.

[@danc78]

Who doesn’t celebrate birthdays?????? Wtf

[@tmoney7643]

Spoiler Alert: The entire documentary is a white washing of that time period in UF Football. That said, it's a solid piece, but it was clear that UF only gave it's approval provided there's an honest attempt to skew the perspective just enough to avoid the casual fan asking intrusive questions.

[@theeamazingkrabb5358]

Would love to see the UGA doc after the 3-pete! It's gonna be lit!

[@CoolHandLuke813]

They’ll have to address player arrests in that one too!

[@TheMCJ2011]

@@CoolHandLuke813 I’m sure as long as they just gloss over it like they did in this Florida doc, you’ll love it.

[@CoolHandLuke813]

@@TheMCJ2011 well that was the joke lol. It’s because everyone seemed to be jumping up and down like little kids on Christmas morning waiting for them to talk about the UF arrests. Just wanted to see if they would have that same energy for another team.

[@litedawg]

Trying to make Urban Meyer look good is like trying to make Jeffrey Dahmer look like a vegetarian.

[@jarrettrobinson4559]

Lol when ppl called Hernandez a cold blooded killer but in actuality tebow explained he was pushed to his limit 🫠, still crazy how it went down but ppl need to understand all actions have a reaction, don’t think you finna call someone out they name nd you not gonna get some reaction especially not knowing the environment they grew up in, or where there head is, we all human ion got no remorse for the ppl that died that night but the situation could’ve been handled better, then later was discovered he was actually going crazy from cte

[@danc78]

I’ll be happy to sell you a bottle of canned Gatorade for 30 bucks.

[@noelramirez1551]

I hate the "back in my day" it gets so annoying

[@CoolHandLuke813]

Truth hurts

[@noelramirez1551]

@@CoolHandLuke813 I mean it's not just because phones have better quality today doesn't mean shit look at Tennessee when they beat Alabama or Michigan Penn State their stadiums are always loud and the list goes on and on every generation claims theirs was the best

[@CoolHandLuke813]

@@noelramirez1551 I get what you’re saying but I do agree that crowds were louder in the 2000s than they are today. I know because I’ve been to plenty of games in both eras. I do think there was more genuine passion back in those days by both fans and players too. These days, player commitment to the University means nothing and they just want the next NIL deal. So there’s a degree of enthusiasm for CFB that is just a little off now when compared to 15-20 years ago.

[@noelramirez1551]

@@CoolHandLuke813 well when you bring in NIL yea that's true especially when teams dont honor the one rule transfer

[@CoolHandLuke813]

@@noelramirez1551 for sure. And I’m not against players getting paid btw. I think that’s totally fine. But if it gets in the way of a player’s commitment to themselves and to their team to better themselves and their team, then it’s a problem. I think we are seeing some of that happen.

[@johnjohnson1997]

The show was terrible and boring. Shows nothing about nothing.

[@__-bc4bs]

Pms 😄😄😄

[@tjlift22]

Not a Florida fan at all but it was pretty good. I like Florida alot better these days 🤣🤣🤣