Kelly Intensely Scrutinises Acclaimed Health Benefits | Dragons’ Den

A promising start as GB Olympic athlete and physiotherapist Lynwen Harrison pitched her “natural, fresh” sports energy drink with no chemicals or preservatives which alleged to support quicker recovery from exercising, but our Dragons weren't too happy about the shelf life.
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[@timtam6442]

Natural sports recovery drink: WATER

[@colibrireader]

Ask Ronaldo. He knows.

[@pipedown7969]

You could even make it better by adding what gatorade and powerade charge so much for "electrolytes"... AKA Salt LOL

[@PriestessHephzibah]

Exactly.... With a pinch of natural salt

[@CabbageYe]

@@pipedown7969 Salt is great for cardio.

[@PastMourning]

Potassium and salt are lost through sweat and need to be replenished. Low potassium seems to really be the one athletes or anyone sweating heavily suffer from the most. Probably because salt is in everything and potassium is difficult to come by. Even foods you'd often think of as having high potassium, such as bananas, don't actually have much. Low potassium is what causes your muscles to cramp up, since potassium is what your muscles use to relax a contracted muscle, without it the muscle remains locked in a contracted state. I'm not sure why potassium is so rare even in sports drinks but just a wild guess with no research into it, I'd guess it is because it can easily be over dosed on.

[@Sam-xw6pl]

Lol Kelly has no idea what she’s talking about at all, particularly with the sugar thing

[@oxymoron02]

I loved, "so where would you get your carbohydrates from then?" Kelly: **panicked bullshit response**

[@Sam-xw6pl]

@@oxymoron02 complains about the sugar content of the product but then suggests they add “natural sugar”. Natural sugar = Sugar 🙄

[@gorillaau]

@@Sam-xw6pl They could have used honey as a sweetener.

[@Sam-xw6pl]

@@gorillaau Honey would still majorly contribute to the sugar content considering it’s 82% sugar

[@gorillaau]

@@Sam-xw6pl Yes, but it goes over the heads of the people like Kelly.. "It's all natural, so it must be good."

[@andyh7777]

Kelly is completely wrong here. Organic isn't automatically better for you, it just means it's grown/reered differently. You can have perfectly healthy non organic products.

[@troo_story]

@Tony Imbierski so never let your ignorance stand in the way of a closed mind, eh.

[@cykacircus903]

@Tony Imbierski The enviroment around you does have an effect on your mental health so I dont really see how thats false? Especially when it comes to rooms where you spend significant amount of time like in your home.

[@stephenfox8685]

@@cykacircus903 I fully agree.

[@Bor-Time]

@Tony Imbierski Seriously?

[@gamen8209]

@@cykacircus903 Sure it can have an effect on (subjective) mental well-being. OP isn't even denying That. But that is not the same as feng shui; a philosophy built on concepts for which there exist no scientific evidence (qi etc)

[@SinkyYT]

I think the bottles look like paint for children.

[@Nic0lasAn3lka39]

PVA glue!

[@paulleadbeater480]

exactly what I was thinking lol

[@at0micsheep]

Yeh I was thinking similar. I thought it looked like PVA glue. When poured out, the product pretty much did too

[@iamtafara]

my only problem is that the product looks like a bottle of brake fluid.

[@lourdpravin1046]

🤣😆

[@hungryrefrigerator5784]

Real talk, the product looks like something I can use to clean my bathroom with.

[@PaulStewartAviation]

I came here to say that. I agree.

[@calvinthedestroyer]

Hmm, can I have some Dot-3? Very yummy

[@mosestjen5267]

more like bleach bottle to me

[@KSGomez88]

Kelly is so bland. And out of her element here. Organic doesn't automatically make everything "healthier".

[@stephenfox8685]

She didn't unconditionally say that it did. Organic stuff has lots of good stuff in it, that's all.

[@KSGomez88]

@@stephenfox8685Foods labeled "organic" don't magically make them better for you. They can still contain chemicals, synthetic, and man made ingredients. You just get the privilege to pay more for a cutsie hippy dippy label!

[@tyres123]

@@KSGomez88 Even though organic doesn't mean healthy, people are going to assume it as healthy. Their customers are those who prefer everything natural. They need to market the product as completely natural and organic to stand out from other energy drink brands.

[@andrew_koala2974]

One must remember that there are organic toxins -- Anyone who knows their science - Chemistry - and has worked in the Petro-Chemical industry knows that. The use of the word organic in the context of food is an overhyped marketing term for those who know next to nothing about Chemistry. To these people, chemistry relates to physical attraction and not science.

[@giorgitsiklauri840]

The main benefit of organic is it's simple, you don't have to go digging through all of the ingredients of the product and where they're sourced, you just know there's no added hormones, pesticides, or other harmful artificial chemicals. This is not to say that artificial chemicals are all bad, but it takes a lot of work and research to actually figure out which products have these harmful chemicals, and which have only harmless ones. So, organic is just a quick and dirty label you can look at and know no matter good or bad, there's nothing artificial in it. Most people don't have the time to do the amount of research currently required, the only real way to fix this issue is to make ingredients lists far more comprehensible, to better the education system, and to put these additives into different categories based on how harmful they are found to be by the FDA in different quantities, and then each ingredient would have a letter after it in the ingredient list which denotes the harmfulness level at the amount in the serving. This would of course be an extremely complex and difficult system of classifications to create, with much debate over where certain additives should lie, but if it can be created it would be far better than the current system of either meticulously doing research on every ingredient in every item you consume, or simply cutting out everything artificial.

[@JoshF848]

“No chemicals” so they are selling sealed containers full of nothing?

[@Slop_Dogg]

“It’s just dark matter, all natural.”

[@Kramlets]

It's a bottle of pure organic energy for your chakras.

[@thealien_ali3382]

It's air

[@JoshF848]

@@thealien_ali3382 which is, of course, a chemical itself

[@cwang6951]

Does Kelly realise that organic doesn't mean pesticode/'chemical' free. The poisons are just natural, not synthetic...

[@bobbym6130]

How many natural chemicals are in a berry? A lot.

[@tumbles8350]

Chemical free food

[@itnaklipse1669]

You realize that's a fuckwitted argument, don't you?

[@benclarkson1802]

@@itnaklipse1669 it’s actually not.

[@SteamDeckGameplay]

Doesn't it mean pesticide free? "organic farming, agricultural system that uses ecologically based pest controls and biological fertilizers derived largely from animal and plant wastes and nitrogen-fixing cover crops."

[@ianpeggdotcom]

Lynwen: I've studied biology Also Lynwen: I don't want chemicals in my body. Lynwen probably should've studied chemistry. That would've been a real eye opener for her! 🤣

[@thealien_ali3382]

Lol

[@Jehannum2000]

Yes, that was a cringe moment.

[@jonnylawrence7766]

If Jenny took over from Alan Sugar on The Apprentice, she would whittle them down to 2 candidates and fire them both

[@jimmytyan9791]

🤣👍original

[@joeyyears]

Best one yet.... And you're fired!

[@Jamie_Winsh]

Definitely

[@alexplays8640]

and for that reason, you’re both out

[@tumbles8350]

Natural fruit? Thank god, I thought they were using man made wax fruit

[@BenjaminGoose]

I only eat supernatural fruit.

[@chrischarlescook]

You can tell they are going to leave and conveniently forget every piece of advice / criticism they've received. And it definitely looks like drain cleaner.

[@royfr8136]

100% agree

[@Dieterbe]

They were too busy saying thank you to listen to anything

[@andrew_koala2974]

realcookiecook I have to agree. These two are working on the basis of their emotional connection with the product. To put it to market would be an impossible task. and given a very short shelf-life of high risk - I doubt the shelf life would be any longer than a slice of bread. There is another point that was not mentioned. Governments have very strict protocols for dairy produce. AUSTRALIA particularly had extremely high food standards. particularly relating to Dairy and Honey. Unlike many other countries, AUSTRALIA denies import of Honey and Dairy from China, as well as other food products - Brazil and the USA are not as strict, with the exception of HAWAII - which has regulations based on AUSTRALIAN regulations.

[@ClearOutSamskaras]

They complain about powdered forms of recovery drinks and fail to realize that the powdered forms are the method of avoiding the brief shelf life that their product has. I can't stand the "girl power" send off that Kelly gave to them at the end; it will only make them more delusional about their product.

[@TheArccore]

💯 agree

[@christopher7804]

"We are not looking for an investment" Jenny: You have come to the right place😏

[@PriestessHephzibah]

I am an athlete, distance runner... I wouldn't buy this.... I would stick to my water and pink salt. Excellent recovery still with water and salt.

[@hungryrefrigerator5784]

Honestly the best thing for your body is whole food and water; our body dose not need energy drinks.

[@BigHalfSteps]

@@hungryrefrigerator5784 They are not energy drinks though, just crap stuff. The body needs Amino Acids to re-build muscle tissue damage. All 9 Amino Acids. They come from a normal balanced diet, and some don't have that (vegans/vegetarians/health-related-diet) and need protein powder or other kinds of supplement. This "energy drink" what they call is just a liquid food meal. Its invention was only because there was this fad claim that post-workout meal is essential within 30 minutes after workout. Which is not. Also people saying "protein meal" being the better thing was also a farce, as it turns out you just can eat anything that is not starved from nutritional value.

[@hungryrefrigerator5784]

@@BigHalfSteps Agree the product Is crap because the nutritional value is diluted by the manufacturing process. All 9 amino acid is important or the body to function. The best meal replacement is eating an actual meal. The supplements and protein powder industry you have to be careful with what you take because in some product the ingredients are crap or the amount of doses of ingredients aren’t displayed well. Anyway thanks for the reply.

[@hemana3859]

Is that the himalayan pink salt? Ive been using that for several years and i love it. Never thought of drinking water with it. 🙂 Curious kiwi.

[@PriestessHephzibah]

@@hemana3859 yeah, pink Himalayan salt.... I put a pinch of it in my mouth and wash it down with water.... It was the game changer for me... I am able to tolerate heat very well because of this

[@TallulahLaGhash]

It looks like a bottle of spar disinfectant that you'd find in a 1970s state care home, its so horrible

[@alanw4589]

oh yes I remember those, horrible taste as you say

[@FlameFlickers]

@@alanw4589 You grew up drinking disinfectant??!

[@chanchito4401]

Oddly specific

[@vojtechkarlovsky4396]

Im really anti-sugar... not knowing what "sugar" on a label means

[@oxymoron02]

I love that she was shut down with, "where would you get your carbohydrates from then?", panicked, and bullshitted a response.

[@vojtechkarlovsky4396]

@@oxymoron02 ye right?

[@b-dogs1038]

Kelly’s in a bit of a huff about something She’s never going to invest in

[@hungryrefrigerator5784]

The best thing you can do for your body is eat whole food and drink water; our bodies dose not need energy drinks.

[@Roadjull]

"No chemicals, just nature, you can't lose" So the bottles are empty? Even water is technically a "chemical". Everything in nature is technically "chemical".

[@nisnga147]

Kelly: Is it organic, glutenfree, lactose free, vegan, locally sourced, non cultural appropriating and gender neutral? Pitcher: it contains sugar Kelly: I am out

[@thealien_ali3382]

Lol

[@gothlymoor9472]

Best comment 😜.

[@khandadonb111]

Don't think we forgot about the fact you missed Monday's upload.

[@thecasualobserver6598]

It’s always cringe when the pre demo whispering occurs…🧐👍🏻

[@oxymoron02]

It's a well-documented psychological tactic. Even in a situation where you're with another person, both of you can be lost in your thoughts and potentially sabotage your own confidence-- thus you get these subconscious "obvious ice breakers" which serve only to remind you both (or however many of you there are) that no one in the situation is alone.

[@cookiekilbane5989]

Peter: “your product is doomed and there is 0 chance supermarkets will touch it” Milk lady: “that’s fine, thanks” 🤣🤣🤣

[@SRC267]

Having ready salted crisps now

[@dar2354]

Prawn cocktail here 👍

[@hungryrefrigerator5784]

You do know salted crips is fulllll of CHEMICALS 😂.

[@isaachussain5343]

Doritos chillie heatwave here

[@tylerjoseph820]

Salt and vinegar. Washed down with a Carlsberg beer

[@namnack]

Why do you get 64 upvotes for being totally irrelevant? This is exactly why we're fucked, isn't it?

[@khandadonb111]

Lmao these dragons are so clueless about nutrition. Sugar postwork is often recommended. Organic does not mean better.

[@hungryrefrigerator5784]

It’s is added sugar you have to watch out for.

[@khandadonb111]

@@hungryrefrigerator5784 simple sugars post workout aren't a bad idea.

[@epicmonkeydrunk]

@@khandadonb111 yes and no the combo of both complex and simple are great balance. just stay in ur daily allowence

[@lj7169]

The bottle looked like glue from the early learning center

[@Semmarv]

They mentioned it can be frozen. Could have possibly salvaged the shelf life concerns they suggested it be sold in the frozen section. Heck my supermarket already sells frozen smoothie mix, but it's not great stuff unfortunately.

[@fluxington]

It's probably not great because it's frozen.

[@MrHampat]

I've never seen Kelly Hoppen make an investment. Has she guys?

[@christopher7804]

She has actually

[@liddybug8311]

I've seen a couple. One was a fashion based website

[@colibrireader]

The product looks horrible. I thought they were bottles of oil additives for a car.

[@TheFbiFilesRepeat]

This was my thought aswell, the shape and green lit is a big nono

[@green_firefly]

2 weeks of shelf-life equals dealbreaker.

[@srl2639]

They look like paint pots 😅

[@badnewstalkstech6900]

Having Kellogg's chocos right now

[@giorgitsiklauri840]

No chemicals huh, that sounds sus, those bottles don't look strong enough to keep their shape with a vacuum inside.

[@Nic0lasAn3lka39]

They look like a PVA glue bottle from school

[@KumaBean]

Oddly enough, my first thought was that they looked like bottles of plant nutes.

[@chanchito4401]

Chocolate milk is supposed to be the ultimate recovery drink

[@Kramlets]

Pick one: an organic refreshing "farm-shop" drink, or a drink to aid quicker recovery from exercising - not both. You can try and do two things poorly or instead aim to do one thing exceedingly well.

[@cwang6951]

No chemicals....must be a vacuum!

[@stephenfox8685]

Have you ever tried water? That's the best thing that keeps up stamina and nourishment.

[@hungryrefrigerator5784]

Water we need to survive; best drink.

[@tinderella2386]

You wanna step it up and take it to another level again?? Water, and a banana! Or any fresh fruit for that matter

[@Ben-oy1td]

She’s only an age grouper lol. Deborah thinks she’s a GB international athlete. Pmsl

[@Legitti]

Bottle looks like cool aid

[@Hope-bn9xz]

Watching this while I'm eating omelette sandwich 🥪

[@namnack]

No one cares :)

[@Hope-bn9xz]

@@namnack lol , it was very tasty😬

[@pauljames7333]

@@namnack please don’t speak on behalf of the whole world. I care very much about this comment and am greatly intrigued as to how the omelette sandwich was 😉

[@Hope-bn9xz]

@@pauljames7333 thanks :) I added freshly chopped chillies to give it a little kick 😋👌

[@tonycorke4240]

Another "no chemicals" claim. That means there's nothing at all

[@SikhJedi.]

Perfect time for a break.

[@johnjamesleahy4065]

I was sold on just the speech at the beginning

[@TheAxeliono]

I wish we would get to the point where people stop putting crap in their body and just drink normal foods and drinks for humans

[@BenjaminGoose]

For humans? As opposed to what, Martians?

[@TheAxeliono]

@@BenjaminGoose I just meant extremely processed foods, junk foods, things that are very commonly eaten that are kinda crap for you

[@kimballentyne9069]

Be brave and strong and continue to grow.

[@namnack]

Or.. stop posting online when you have nothing to say.

[@francisgallozzi2595]

Far too many entrepreneurs appear on Dragon's Den with very little sales with outrageous valuations.

[@nathanmorrison1830]

Pathetic isn’t it?

[@user-yt198]

When I saw the bottles I thought they were selling bleach.

[@olieholmes9391]

You must be blind

[@user-yt198]

@@olieholmes9391 What is the title of the video? “It Looks Like Drain Cleaner”. Maybe you are blind.

[@MsMaryPatricia]

The bottles look like bottles of paint that kids use for arts and crafts.

[@raiseer]

I don't believe that the lady in pink actually has a biology degree. Or she would never have said "no chemicals".

[@sevendeadlysins375]

Ahhh love watching these on my dinner break. :)

[@ahh1180]

Jenny’s hiding in the back to finish the left over samples

[@radyasoma6719]

Scam in my eyes for any health drinks

[@sam-psonsmith9951]

"Are there any chemicals in there." Is such a....ill informed...question. Guess what. Everything is a chemical, so if the answer is no, the bottle is empty.

[@piyushlaxman8525]

5:38 I didn't know Kelly had a freakin toaster implanted on her face.

[@babyboomer6588]

She's the one you don't want to share a bag with...

[@razer0072073]

We want Tingatang next!

[@namnack]

Any chemical ingredients in there(?).. Are these Muppets for real??

[@James-wf8nu]

"Intensely scrutinise" lol

[@JadedWolfBravo]

You mean to tell me that these multimillionaire investors still haven’t figured out that “organic” is little more than marketing to raise prices on things that AREN’T even better?

[@EvilValenStrife]

Kelly was making absolutely no sense. Imagine being this clueless about sugar.

[@Singularity24601]

They spend all this time laboring the point that it's natural fruit. I'd like to know what artificial fruit is... I suspect it would be a scientific breakthrough and hence a far more valuable business. The biologist doesn't want chemicals in her body... probably forgot lesson #1: her entire body is chemicals. The irony is that the risks of preservatives etc have been studied far more than the risks of insufficient preservatives. Given that some of the most potent carcinogens come from molds and other microorganisms, it's entirely possible that you're more likely to get cancer from consuming insufficient chemikillz rather than too much.

[@nzchariboy]

what is kelly on about, every freshly squeezed juice will have sugar, fruits are sugar, doesnt mean its unhealthy. Fructose doesnt kill you.

[@kryztyanospqkenzington7716]

Did Kelly ever invest in anything? I watched a reasonable amount of these and can't remember seeing her invest ever

[@Toby7519]

Ummm everything is chemicals, literally everything.

[@vinnyvincent2862]

Every liquid you consume no matter what it is, all have to go through the digestive system ! . All except one, WATER ! That goes directly into the system ! .

[@oxymoron02]

... What

[@00Kuja00]

That does not sound right.

[@badgasaurus4211]

To absorb Water correctly, you actually have to inhale it

[@vinnyvincent2862]

Chlorine and fluorine gives off a gas ! That's why dogs and cats will sometimes walk around a waterbowl waiting for it to settle ! .

[@CurseMyMetalHand]

Looks like a bottle of children's paint.

[@GugzDhanjal]

Cheese and onion sandwich and a sausage roll

[@Garage35Racing]

Looks like a bottle of drain cleaner 😂

[@ImTheScottMann]

Looks like glue

[@gothlymoor9472]

They do realize that water is a chemical? 🤦‍♀️

[@jmharris251]

Oh my. Not organic juices, milk, fruton, from high sugar juices from concentrate, short shelf life. Fresh organic juice refrigerated as good or better.

[@Itsonlymakebelieve]

Piers and Kelly, the two non Investors in the Den are the ones most critical of the product, just to give them another reason to hold onto their money.

[@Pobsta-de7hb]

Its not true though, you cannot beat scientific engineered products with natural. These things are made to target specific things, and adjusted and theirs a massive variety of them to target a massive variety of things, all tailored.

[@PatrickTreacyAilesbury]

Healthy with both sugar and dairy!!! Yuk!

[@aaronrowles6596]

Jenny: I'm not on the show yet, but I'm out.

[@sorrenblitz805]

Barbara: I'm on a version of this show in a different country and for that reason, I'm out.

[@clapdrix72]

Kelly is in my top 3 all time worst dragons along with Doug Richards and Piers Linney.

[@JoannaHammond]

People really have to stop thinking that organic or natural means better, it does not.

[@cuttlefisch]

Is their company still going?

[@ANGELSURS]

They went belly up

[@syne_euw217]

The packaging looks vile

[@akdarklight156]

At the beginning I was like ; Wow natural drinks finally a healthier version of geteraid but then I saw the bottle and honestly looks like dish soap , like make it look thrilling , Right now it just looks for yogan people 😁. Not a biologist but we still don't know exactly what's going on a molecular size and we cant keep testing because of all radiation thats causing harm. Advise for them : FRICKING TRAIN!!! And I mean hard-core training , with that your company will and would succeed

[@handbanana4899]

Just finished a lovely eel rice dinner (I’m on the other side of the world to most of the regular viewership)

[@hungryrefrigerator5784]

Never had eel, can you describe what it taste like?

[@calvinthedestroyer]

How does eel taste?

[@handbanana4899]

Hey guys, yeah like Peasant said it's very fatty, lush and hard to explain if you've never had it. The Japanese way is to steam it with a kind of brown sauce that also gives it a greasy feel. If you've had fish and chips, imagine if the fish taste also had a savoury, steak-like note to it. It's very distinctly fishy, but also has a meaty taste that sticks to the mouth if that makes any sense?

[@PointNemo9]

I love the taste of eel but don't like the bones

[@handbanana4899]

@@PointNemo9 Same to be honest, I've been lucky to have a lot of eel with small bones but the big ones are tricky.

[@PhaRoaH87]

Kelly "Organic" Hoppen

[@Jay-sg2ko]

I don’t live in the uk anymore so this is now my breakfast time watch instead of lunch … corn flakes this morning

[@hungryrefrigerator5784]

How was the breakfast?

[@dalemitchell3635]

Another dinner another dragons den video

[@johnbrady3015]

Kelly is anti investor what is she doing there 🙄

[@VolzUnthordoxMusic007]

Don't mind me...just having lunch.

[@VolzUnthordoxMusic007]

Thank god the milks fresh!🙏

[@kytddjj]

Hello

[@SiriusMined]

Kelly, ALL sugar is "natural" sugar. Sugar cane is a plant.

[@a697ag]

Avocado BLT and cucumber dill salad

[@RockyDave]

Steak and chips.

[@VolzUnthordoxMusic007]

Thank god tha milks fresh...!

[@DrinkinMehStella]

what's for lunch DD gang?

[@SRC267]

Crisp sandwich

[@Jasper-Holland]

Sandwich with trout

[@mrsurprise2294]

Drugs I need to talk to ya Frank

[@DrinkinMehStella]

@@mrsurprise2294 talk to Frank about all your drug problems 🥸

[@RockyDave]

This was more like entering Daleks Den. Exterminate!!!

[@royfr8136]

There are only many other products on the market that do the same thing...

[@RockyDave]

'More misinformed'?

[@royfr8136]

@@RockyDave ???

[@RockyDave]

@@royfr8136 Haha! I had intended to reply a different comment.

[@foddyfoddy]

"Claimed" health benefits, not "acclaimed".

[@jesusbermudez6775]

Politely told, "not interested"

[@salemkid1979]

Pater Jones isn't even on this show anymore, he made the decision to join Shark Tank, however, they will use him as a toilet roll, wipe their ass with him and he will have to crawl back to being a minnow.

[@RemixerUltimate]

I'm pretty sure he's just guest starting this season.

[@mrsurprise2294]

Pater platter is just a side dish

[@Gedagnors]

5:42 0 ^ 0

[@beckjtjt2522]

Noodles and curry here

[@PriestessHephzibah]

You must be in Birmingham....