JK Rowling Controversy Triggers Massive Debate w/ Destiny

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[@LastNightDestiny]

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[@edenwalker5494]

your channel annoys me so much but I like it. It's good to listen to people we disagree with.

[@kungfujoe2136]

how harmefull do you think the far left is to gey's lesbo's and trans ppl and pedo's

[@kungfujoe2136]

you are ether ethical or you are not ppl that are ethical are called hero's they stick out like a sore thum they are very rare for a reason it's not a good strategy for survival (it's hard and the left is not)

[@kungfujoe2136]

there's no need to kill tans ppl they do that themselves

[@edenwalker5494]

@@kungfujoe2136 yes men have a very high suicide rate, how about we fix that issue

[@1234567Aesop]

You know you've fucked up when you are having a moral dilemena on whether or not to play the new magic wizard game.

[@GeneralSpecific]

This is how you know these people have it good.

[@jboogie4701]

ego and identity politics at its finest.

[@pothead9963]

Rich white people problems

[@mielipuolisiili7240]

Rowling cube

[@veralynn1370]

It shouldn't be that hard to understand someone would not want to give money to a person who openly, unironically refers to a whole class of people as violent rapists (with zero evidence) on Twitter.

[@tnerty6087]

As a trans person, I'm buying this game to enjoy this game.

[@blackerscreenproductions1368]

Based.

[@Daltoniss]

Gigachad

[@deeky1239]

Based normal and touching grass trans take

[@stainlessdoom3433]

Respect, I love trans people but I also love Harry Potter

[@AspiringDevil]

That's the spirit. Play & mock JKR while you're doing it. That's what I plan to do.

[@tm1182]

The scariest thing in the world to me is the realization that people like this would be included in a "jury of your peers"

[@vulcanh254]

Twitter leftists are so devoid of humor that they don't understand irony or sarcasm anymore. When JKR says "Everyone who buys this game agrees with me politically" she's obviously trolling and mocking the woke who really think that way. She has zero involvement in the game. She literally doesn't care if the game sells well or poorly. It doesn't affect her in any way. These people can't be real. It's just tragic how far gone they are.

[@vulcanh254]

@naggot figger I mean that's just how I call those people. I know it's not just people on Twitter, woke progressives probably represent the majority of progressives at this point. But progressives themselves are like 30% of the Left at most.

[@willyvereb]

@naggot figger You say this but at the same time when you interact with people outside of your friend circle this seems to become the expected norm. Even if they are minority they are vocal enough to mute out the reasonable majority. That's a food for thought.

[@bc9554]

The game even has very obvious pro trans messaging in its mechanics and advertising.

[@theobell2002]

JK Rowling will earn royalties for the game. Not that I disagree with you but to say it won't affect her is wrong.

[@vulcanh254]

@Theo Bell I said that because these people think JK Rowling will feel bad if this game does poorly lol. Or that she'll feel invigorated to become even more bigoted if it does well.. That's what I mean by it doesn't affect her. She doesn't care at all and wouldn't change her opinions or do anything different even if the boycott succeeded. Plus the royalties from this game is a droplet in the ocean of her wealth. Even if she lost 100% of Hogwarts Legacy money she wouldn't notice it.

[@thoughtspiral7552]

Erin and pixie unironically creating new republicans everyday…

[@SigWahrheit]

I don't follow Destiny much these days, how is he surrounding himself with even bigger morons then before?

[@Matt-sk6hi]

@@SigWahrheit It's the internet, everyone is dumb even the smart people

[@mutedmutiny9542]

@@SigWahrheitfor content. He does it for content.

[@giovalladares1022]

@@mutedmutiny9542 Erin is anti content. She cannot form an entertaining sentence.

[@mutedmutiny9542]

@@giovalladares1022 I don’t think you look at it the right way. It’s like wrestling heels, you’re supposed to not like them. Do you realize he gets more views with these types of people than with the types of people his fans like? When they like someone, maybe 50% watch. When they don’t like someone, like 95% watch, and as much as they complain about it, they can’t stop watching.

[@silentfenrir6927]

Jk Rowling is rich, the game is successful, your personal boycott makes no difference. JK Rowling gives shitloads of money to child and domestic violence charities. There are hundred of people that made the game beyond JK Rowling. Purchasing the game is ethical.

[@Yoursoulismine814]

I work in the video game industry. These people don't know how anything works and it's really frustrating because their arguments are sound only if you accept their flawed logic. Video game developers are not contractors, that would be ridiculous. Developers are always employees because they do most of the heavy lifting as far as making the game and a talented dev is worth their weight in gold. Artists tend to be contractors usually from another company who is hired by the studio. Video game testers are contractors because testing is easy work that anyone can do, but the process of debugging a modern game is a herculean task requiring many hours of labor digging through thousands of lines of code for mistakes. The success of failure of the game determines the studio's ability to continue producing games, to expand their workforce, and create jobs. J.K. Rowling has already gotten paid by the studio for the license. That's how licensing works. The sales are just helping the studio recoup the loss from paying her as well as all of it's employees and of course make a profit for the studio.

[@akuakkk1908]

Yup... Unless JK rowling is the developer herself, she would only make money through the contract from licensing. At best she would get more money from royalty according to contract (if it were written), but money from sales would flow mostly to the studio. Not a game developer myself but had been to such community. So i might be off though in understanding

[@colinchristensen4398]

Thank you no one seems to care about this

[@gooseberree4955]

I’ve read that it’s likely JK will still get royalties. In theory, if this boycott worked, studios would be less likely to pursue partnerships with JK in the future.

[@akuakkk1908]

@@gooseberree4955 well... That's an insane argument (though theoretically sound). Punish the game dev as an example for other who work with JK in the future. Clearly made by someone of sane mind rather than a 2-bit villain. Well... Joking aside, that sounds horrible. I don't know how you'd get sympathy from average non-political aligned individuals if they hear such reasoning.

[@asher4268]

​@@akuakkk1908 Is it really punishing the game developer's though? If I am a developer or a game studio and I work for or get hired by Destiny to create a game he wants. I would very much be aware that he could say something that people may seek to cancel him over, for the umpteenth time, and my studio or work as a developer may suffer because of it. I am making a calculated risk given he has a big platform and could boost our studio or he could also do something controversial and set us back. These are calculations made across all industries. Now, it is possible a developer had no say on who their studio partners with but I don't think they would be shocked by people viewing their work favorably or negatively given who the partner is. What about people wanting to cancel their Netflix over the recent mix up with Netflix wanting to stop password sharing? Why weren't people saying, you are punishing the developers who had no say in this decision. It is wrong to want to cancel you Netflix account. I feel like framing it like this will never allow you to stop supporting some company as there will always be some employee that had no say in some controversial decision or action by others.

[@StorytellingHeadshots]

What does it say about Gen Z that they believe that boycotting ACTUAL human rights violations and abuses (Amazon, Uber) is optional yet boycotting people for what they say (Rowling, West) is the moral non-negotiable? RIP ethics.

[@studiogimli7645]

cus people are lazy and only want to do what they're already doing

[@Kamfrenchie]

well they seem to believe rowling is funding death squad against trans people

[@NamelessKing1597]

Don't lump me in with these lunatics. I don't believe in boycotting anything, if it's good it's good, IDGAF who made it.

[@Winasaurus]

Because boycotting a game they were likely never really going to play is easy. Boycotting Amazon, Uber and Nestle is hard. And they'd rather take the easy option, then pretend it's equal or better to the hard option. This is pervasive. Exact same thing is found in dating, prioritizing easy, low-commitment hookups and then acting like they're just as fulfilling/important as a hard to maintain relationship. Exact same thing is found in work, prioritizing easy counter jobs and demanding pay rises as if they were harder life saving roles. Exact same thing is found in the absurd mental illness circus, easily claiming you have mental illnesses for attention without the hardship of actually having them. The whole trans debate, I won't say it again, but you know. Cancelling people, just easily getting them removed instead of the tough task of fleshing out your thoughts and opinions to defend them properly. Some people say it's just laziness, but I think it's more actively anti-effort than that. A lazy man works a hard job if he must. These people would sooner not work the job at all and try to coast on sympathy donations/lawsuit money for getting fired from said job.

[@strangestecho5088]

@@Winasaurus A large percentage of young trans people were obsessed with Harry Potter growing up, so JK's opinions on the topic were taken extremely personally. Mentally ill people tend to struggle with perspective, and the abuses of multinational corporations are more abstract, even if those abuses are objectively far worse than JK's mild activism.

[@AbracaDanielll]

The premise of this conversation is hilarious, along with how serious they are about it. These people live in another universe.

[@undead9736]

Imagine people engaging in complex topics in a serious manner and not just memeing. Crazy

[@AbracaDanielll]

@@undead9736 Nobody considers these issues outside their bubble, these discussions are so far removed from every day real life. Its funny how meaningful they try to make it out to be when its mostly worthless.

[@iwannabethekid34xc]

@@undead9736 imagine people that go outside beyond reddit meetups.

[@DeathrowJS]

@@AbracaDanielll Wait are you new to the internet?

[@vulcanh254]

@@undead9736 There is zero complexity. Just woke losers virtue signaling to other woke losers to act morally superior when they're just stupid. Of course there's no issue with buying or playing the game at all lmao. You need to be literally psychotic to believe people who want to play Harry Pitter are evil or bigoted. Just because you were brainwashed to believe JKR was a bad person, even though everything she has ever said is true and extremely mild. She's not trying to genocide lmao, she just believes in biology and sex, like 99% of sane humans on earth btw. Again, psychotic to think 99% of the planet are terfs.

[@MrThankeesai]

'gerrymandering your ethics' is an absolutely amazing analogy

[@TheDolphinTuna]

Yeah, that line stuck out to me.

[@ItsMe-cp8xc]

See also, “Schrödinger’s douche bag”, where someone says something and decides to say it was a joke depending on the reaction of the people around them.

[@professorgremlin1425]

@@ItsMe-cp8xcThanks for saying that, I’ve been wondering if there’s a term to describe that behavior!

[@ogslowdragon]

That is the lefts playbook.

[@RV-vx9ek]

@@ItsMe-cp8xc i love this lmao, thank you.

[@richardeknormis7688]

Pixie is “virtual signaling” personified

[@blackattack1840]

"not invigorating her" is such a petty objective. Her seeing so many people pirating the game despite hating her just proves you're an addict that can't let go of her IP despite your convictions.

[@just_a_turtle_chad]

The people upset are the ones who aren't going to buy the game anyways. They're just giving the game more attention.

[@undead9736]

I 1000% would have bought this fairly good looking AAA R.P.G but I can't give money to that bitch.

[@iwannabethekid34xc]

@@undead9736 don't worry champ, we will.

[@BigHotSauceBoss69]

"They're just giving the game more attention." That's exactly right. Streisand effect.

[@bennymountain1]

Honestly, the game looks like shit, lmao. Why would anyone want to play it? Even if they're a raging transphobe. But I guess they're willing to suffer for their ideals, lol.

[@kora4185]

No but for real, everyday I forget to order it and every night I go to sleep someone’s outrage reminds me that’s what I was suppose to do 😅

[@marcmaeda4905]

Twitter work out routine: 5 sets of touching grass, till failure.

[@CodeeXD]

Instructions unclear they blended grass into a smoothie and drank it

[@KentPhillips]

I wish Destiny had brought up the initial JK Rowling tweets that caused backlash because they were in no way transphobic yet every Journalist/News post was calling them so. It seems like she doubled down afterwards words in response to all the backlash. I doubt Pixie and Erin even know what JK Rowling initially got canceled for.

[@melonmazing515]

I think I remember destiny reading some document a while back that Rowling posted about that whole thing, but I could be wrong

[@vulcanh254]

Yep, JKR's crime is literally believing in biology and sex. Thinking that only biological females can become pregnant (which is fact). Her trans takes are more mild than Destiny. Basically if you think JKR is transphobic you think everyone is because almost everyone agrees with her and shares her views on this. These people have been brainwashed. They don't even look up why JKR is considered transphobe, they just accept the premise without question.

[@KentPhillips]

@@vulcanh254 It’s not even just that. It’s people’s lack of knowledge on how this whole thing started. When Destiny strongmaned the TERF position and then Pixie, Erin, and I think Rum1n8 argued that if TERFs had that nuanced position then people would be more inclined to listen, they don’t even realize that that’s the position JK Rowling had when she got cancelled in the first place. That was Destiny’s whole point. That by arguing something like that you just add fuel to the fire and make people double down on their position.

[@shushinfushin1312]

This 100%, it seems most people on the left have kind of just accepted the narrative that she's transphobic and made "heinous" comments about trans people, and that's what started it, yet that's not what happened.. yes she got snarky and rude about it AFTER people attempted to ruin her life for comments that weren't bad at all. I completely understand that.

[@knes167]

@@KentPhillips ^^^^ This Ppl don't think of Rowling as transphobic because she said "Trans ppl are LESS THAN DIRT TO ME" or "TRANS PPL SHOULD BE THROWN IN A WHOLE. No human rights" Iirc Rowling just wanted women's spaces and ppl who spoke on behalf of women( not by proxy), to be sex:females. The same way black ppl in general don't want white ppl speaking on behalf of black ppl(again, not by proxy). Rachel Dolezal doesn't have any right to represent us, does that mean she's a subhuman piece of scum and should due? No. We just don't want her being a spokesperson for black ppl when she's not black

[@skepticinall]

I love how she literally proved Destiny's point so many times just by defending the viewpoint calling it fringe but refusing to call it out.

[@YammoYammamoto]

It was - and still is an extremely fringe movement. Don't mistake people keeping their heads down and not speaking up - with the public at large thinking self-ID is a thing. People are just scared of losing their jobs in the face of this rabid movement that will walk over corpses for their fringe cause. If only there was a term for a people being too terrified to speak up in fear of retribution of an insane mob. If only.

[@badmuddafadda]

I think it’s so rich that people who are pushing for self ID, have an idea that they can magically change their sex by saying it out loud. That they are fighting tooth and nail, but they are entirely comfortable with reclassifying women in terms women didn’t ask for and weren’t asked about. AFAB or cis, or birthing people or menstruators--give me a god damn break. I think I have a new one; The People who are In Danger of Dying Because Their Reproductive Rights Have Been Taken Away. Now, on top of it, they are supposed to sit down and shut up and take abuse for trying to hang on to the things they still have. This is Bizarro World.

[@Focus716]

The idea of boycotting Harry Potter shit is BRAINDEAD

[@diversitydan235]

I think the boycott is fine, but the idea that if you are not boycotting it, you want the transgenocide is autistic.

[@TonyCox1351]

Why?

[@soup8786]

It depends how you feel. If you are are trans or have a trans child or friend and you can't look past the creator I get it. I hate that bitch but I'm going to play it if its decent

[@IonizedComa]

@@TonyCox1351 it's a beloved IP, very few IP have such a consistent and dedicated fanbase even way after the main plot has ended. People disregarded j.k Rowling way before the trans allegations started because she was expanding on the potterverse in a bad way. Not buying the game is honestly not gonna affect her, with her net-worth she doesn't even need work anymore, that's why she's so open on a contraversial topic because she got nothing to loose. The game developers do however, that's why people support it. They want more quality hp content

[@notzachpowers]

its hilariously dumb

[@tolkienblack6602]

Just buy it second-hand if it truly bothers you. I can somewhat respect not wanting to support JK Rowling bc her views upset you, however telling ppl what they can or can't do with their money will always be cringe this is a fight for 99% of ppl outside of Twitter won't care about

[@User71956]

Controversy creates cash. How is it these people don't have any common sense?

[@tolkienblack6602]

@John Who I'm with you I get i just meant more so for the ppl who are genuinely trying to place their feelings with HP and JK Rowling and if they consider her transphobic. I'm buying it second hand bc I REFUSE to start spending $70 fucking dollars on a game. I also don't agree with some of her views and how she's been handling herself on Twitter but $70??!!!!

[@dylaroo24]

@@User71956 That’s not always true, there are plenty of examples where controversy caused a lose in money. Hell you could argue even the projects that did make money despite their controversies could’ve made more if they didn’t have said controversy. So the idea of controversy equally money isn’t true, so how would it be common sense? Take 6 days in Fallujah, that game literally didn’t get made cause of it’s controversy. The route of creating a controversy to drum up money for a game or other project is a MASSIVE gamble, it rarely works. I’m sure you can probably give a few examples of where it does, but their are hundreds of thousand if not millions of projects in tons of different fields such as movies, video games, books, tv shows, anime, comics, music, and art every year. To point to a few select cases and say that controversy creates money as common sense seems really cherry picking. People are shocked when projects try to go the controversy to drum up attention and money route because it’s so damn risky and rarely ever works. It’s clearly not impossible, but it’s extremely far from the norm, it’s more risky then taking the money for said project and gambling it all a Roulette Table. Side point too, do you think this was planned? Pretty sure JK Rowling has long held here views and was vocal about it well before this game was ever even an idea. So how is this controversy supposed to be something to drum up money for this game?

[@DiddntFindANameLol]

So people who think that an action is morally wrong should.. shut up about it? What a spineless position.

[@tolkienblack6602]

@@DiddntFindANameLol if you're talking to me that's literally not what I said lol

[@talsapps]

Those people are so obnoxious... "HE IS a transphobe, why did you pretend that he wasn't?" They need you to affirm their believes every second otherwise they get so triggered like a little child.

[@VaporRize08]

They're narccisistic

[@afk_hesh]

Getting triggered at people being triggered

[@thedarkmasterthedarkmaster]

@@afk_hesh You are getting triggered at people getting triggered at people being triggered

[@afk_hesh]

@@thedarkmasterthedarkmaster ah yes because simply describing the situation automatically triggered, I see

[@CodeeXD]

​@@afk_hesh getting triggered at someone getting triggered at you getring triggered from someone being triggered because they themselves are triggered?

[@StorytellingHeadshots]

The hilarious thing is if you ask the people who are self-righteously “boycotting” JK Rowling, to quote Rowling’s supposedly “hateful” statementS were, they couldn’t tell you.

[@ChristianToth-uv1nv]

I did some research and The term TERF has been around for a minute. It turns out that EILI5 feminism basically split in the 80'son the coattails of the gay liberation movement between TERF's and the social constructionist theory of feminism. Succinctly feminists coined the phrase gender to challenge biological essentialism to overcome the limitations imposed upon them by society based on their immutable sexual differences. And this was just a fun play on words until transsexualism literally get renamed to a disorder of "gender." Feminism in general harbored a resentment for men, but the TERFS wanted to like get rid of men altogether and have a world run by...women? I don't think they thought that one through. But they scoffed at the idea that men could become women, which was literally all transgenderism was at this point: a bunch of gay men who wanted tits. It's worth noting that feminism was inherently a progressive movement at this point, and so transgenderism had to be adopted by feminists by default mostly to advance the feminist agenda, but this does not mean transgenderism is any less about gay erasure than it ever was or has been anywhere else in the world... See this is where transgenderism gets conflated with traditional progressive values from before the millennia, because yes feminists weaponized gender to fight the patriarchy, but they never intended it to open the gates to men turning into women. all the feminists kind of had a problem with this, and this is where it gets very fascinating: the more regressive ant--gay faction (mostly TERFS) of feminism actually commandeered the new wave of feminism because it satisfied their desire for gay erasure, AND and so that's why today you see this issue so strongly divided along the lines of conservatism and liberalism, but also why some of this transgender nonsense is much too our confusion so ostensibly regressive. By no coincidence does this split coincide with America entering into the unofficial post-religious age. And so it is that feminism TODAY is largely the liberal social constructionist view of feminism which embraces the trans identification of men because they think the progress of feminism is contingent on trans acceptance. And that's kind of where we are at with the 2nd wave of "TERF's: it's the pejorative being ascribed to all of the women who really just think women exist. and I think the reason for this reemergent brand of feminism, which is definitely conservative by definition, is the skewing towards GIRLS becoming victimized by transgenderism and becoming suicidal. and that's why increasingly transgenderism is a dangerous radical movement, because even the social constructionists are being disenfranchised and what's left is post modernist extremists who don't care about child safety or well being and idk think biological men can breastfeed babies that as far as we know are only supposed to have the breastmilk of biological women but hey those people are radical with a capitol R

[@gypsylee333]

Exactly!! It's a hobby to me to ask woke TRAs why they hate JK, I've never gotten an answer yet! 😂

[@lowserver2]

"women are women" perhaps XDDD stating some obvious biological fact triggers them a lot

[@heinshaaine8153]

F.e. out of the top of my head, It was the whole "Trans women are just men who customize as woman to invade woman spaces"

[@Jolts30]

Erin and Pxie soy hide behind irony when losing on a point….😂

[@LoyalUK]

Literally, ethically though., Wonder what phone she has and what fuel she uses in her car. Both are incredibly inconsistent.

[@DeadpoolX9]

As do most Daria wannabes. Not fun.

[@slide387]

same with destiny

[@Jolts30]

@@slide387 no Destiny goes full memes when the other side won’t engage in the argument

[@slide387]

@@Jolts30 if you say so

[@olemanyounger5040]

Gay activism; Us living our life the way we want doesn't affect your life. Trans activism; We will affect every decision you make in your life.

[@RexZor76]

This what I have always said. It is so easy to get behind gay rights and activism. Trans people make it so hard to support them from a normal person perspective.

[@LMstan1989]

I think that's not quite fair. (And I am someone who hates that we're lumped, since it's a completely different concept.) Tbf we are past the scrutiny. Prior to it being acceptable, a big chunk of gay activism was the annoying ones being loud. I think what you actually mean is "Gay existence/goal:", but then Trans existence/goal: would also be them living their life the way they want to. BUT a lot of people who are advocating for them are advocating for allowing treatment to be pursued early, whereas being gay happens and does not require anything (or rather it only requires the absence of L's like conversion). So you could still pull off an ok contrast... but I don't think you did that. Also I could imagine people wanting to boycott something because the creator is homophobic or something.

[@jacksyoutubechannel4045]

I think the problem is that gay activism crept from "two consenting adults in the privacy of their own bedroom" to, as they say, "bake the cake, bigot," in less than two decades. Thus conservatives were _very_ skeptical that "just let us use the bathrooms" from trans people was going to take the same path, but instead of slow-walking it, it just went _full_ mask off in the last few years. I think with the trans thing, it's really is almost unavoidable. Even if one does not subscribe to Blanchard's taxonomy of trans women, he objectively observes a feature of about half of trans women that is relevant here. He notes that there are a subset of trans women who become not hurt, but _very_ angry if one does not recognize and affirm that they are women (like what happened in the viral GameStop/"ma'am" video). These trans women are especially sensitive to not being treated as though they are biological women. If half of the group being advocated for has this feeling, it stands to reason that they're going to *insist* on affirmation in all areas of life, and that it's going to feel quite authoritarian. There's a _really_ interesting book (which is out of print, but great if you can get your hands on it) called, _After the Ball: How America Will Conquer Its Fear and Hatred of Gays in the '90s._ It's written by a neuropsychologist and an ad executive (both gay rights activists), on how best to persuade the country to accept gay people; and from this side of the '90s, it's particularly fascinating, because it details almost exactly what ended up happening. The book is actually particularly harsh on the transgender and pedophile communities for trying to throw their lot in with the plight of gay people, because the authors seem to sense the same desire to impose their will in a way that's off-putting to the public. (Some activists say now that this book wasn't influential in order to discredit it, but that's patently false. The book even suggests the use of "homophobia" instead of "anti-gay" because they hoped the more clinical language would be perceived as less judgemental from the gay community.)

[@Paputsza]

i mean, there was the whole chic fil a protest, but you know too many gay people who still eat there

[@thesechicksdontevenknowthe3298]

@@RexZor76 because the work has already been done. Gay activists were accused of the same thing in the early 2000s and prior

[@d0minican0milan0]

Lol I've done my share of piracy...but I've never once deluded myself into thinking I'm not stealing 🤣. The mental gymnastics these girls are exhibiting is pretty hilarious.

[@lau_mac]

Right? The real kicker is how much they cherry picked just to maintain this moral pecking order they built for themselves, when in reality they’re just complete hypocrites.

[@HansWurst-gm2rx]

Agreed, but i think there are different degrees to it. I've done my share of piracy aswell, but in some cases i bought the game when i could afford it and/or really liked it. So in some cases it is a illegal demo version. So i would argue not stealing per se.

[@lau_mac]

@@HansWurst-gm2rx Oh yeah, I’ve done my share of piracy back in the day. I finally stopped when I was caught doing it in college. Thankfully I was only given a warning, but it scared me straight. I’m criticizing the hoops they’re teleporting through as it relates to the game & LGBTQ. Pirating a video game to spite the creator of the source material & claiming it’s in spirit of supporting the game developers is a dishonest crock of shit. They double down on calling it “ethical consumption” by likening it to someone who commits theft out of desperation to feed themselves & their families. It’s fallacious, disingenuous, and virtue signaling. They’re just scared to admit they want to play the game but don’t want to be called a bigot. If buying the game is truly the “litmus test” of being transphobic then stealing it won’t change that. I’m hard pressed to believe a TRA only cares about hitting JKR’s bank account if they’re hinging someone’s moral character on whether or not they remove HP from their lives. There’s no such thing as ethical consumption here, they’re breaking their arm with that reach.

[@lau_mac]

@@HansWurst-gm2rx Let me clarify that I think the Harry Potter series & JKR’s personal/political beliefs aren’t mutually exclusive. If they oppose JKR, it doesn’t mean they can’t buy the game. That’s just my opinion, which is why I think all the mental gymnastics is ridiculous.

[@HansWurst-gm2rx]

@@lau_mac Hey, my comments wasnt really about the mindbending logic in the video, that the ends justify the means and so on. I pretty much agree with you and Destiny. Either buy it or dont. And if you want to boycott it, dont pirate it and dont play it. In my opinion this boycott stuff ist stupid (there is a call for Atomic Heart for this aswell - becuase Putin bad + Ucraine war). People should be more chill, especially if it is about art. Let everyone decide for themselves if they want to enjoy a pc game and dont railroad people with political shit into a boycott. I just wanted to point out, that pirating is not as bad as some make it out to be (yet it is still wrong). In our specific case here one could apply mens rea aswell. Someone who does not have the money does not commit as much of an offense as someone who priates the game because they wanna stick to J.K Rowling.

[@tonyferrol2967]

The danger that I'm at risk of hearing from people like Pixie on a daily basis is the worst thing about the internet.

[@ChristianToth-uv1nv]

what you really mean is the risk of hearing from WOMEN. because every.single.bad.idea. is from women today and everyone needs to wake TF UP. they are fem-splining morality and virtue to men and we are flirting with hell on earth because everyone's f***ing feelings are all that matter. the next advertisement I see for therapy I am going homicidal ffs

[@limitedhangoutlive]

I love how Erin thinks she can convince someone of… anything. She’s a child who called someone with actual real world experience a “hall monitor” when the grass she touches amounts to whatever sod was laid on her college campus.

[@hippipdip]

I don’t think I’ve ever heard her engage honestly with any criticism/counter arguments.

[@iMarcusXBL]

True. She’s very annoying to listen to

[@Flyingclam]

Counterpoints deserved it though, he says he participated in investigations but his only experience is being a school resource officer (SRO) and a parking ticket officer. At his carrer end, he may have done some street patrolling but idk about that one. To simply put he is overselling his expirence to hell. He got rightly clowned on, even if the hall monitor thing was a highschooler's insult, and shouldn't be trusted

[@Flyingclam]

@almightykevin2279 I fixed the spelling and sources are both of Destiny's twitter files videos where Counterpoints fails to substantiates his credentials outside of what I stated. While also failing basic understanding of investigations which he claims to have been apart of

[@Investigamer]

Bro chill, Erin is mostly cool. She responds well to push back, doesn't get scared off or triggered easily, and is usually pretty chill and entertaining. I disagree with her pretty often, but this level of criticism just feels kinda needlessly personal. She's not like Lav-level or anything, damn.

[@rapsody230]

A friendly reminder that JK rowling was the first bilionaire in history to lose the status because she donated too much to charities.

[@Panteni87]

Looking at statistics it's pretty clear leftists don't care as much about charity

[@percentile5247]

Based i guess

[@undead9736]

Who cares she's a hate filled twat

[@Masterbeat69]

You are duch a transphobe and you are killing trans kids everywhere with thus comment.

[@aklokoth]

What a queen 👑

[@typhoidmary2967]

people just don't like being told what to do, especially when it seems like they're being told what they can and can't enjoy by a small and kinda contentious group. it's just a hard sell to most people.

[@theobell2002]

Gamers don't like being told what to do.. unless it comes from the right. lol

[@CodeeXD]

And told they're a demon if they dont

[@amusingmoose9924]

Based

[@yfzrider13]

Holy shit, Destiny's point about using labels to "thought terminate" is fucking amazing. The way big D connected the dots was brilliant.

[@carved6749]

Innuendo studios did a video on that where the far right uses “Boxing in” so they ignore people Reminder Innuendo understands what causes Far right Radicalism he’s really good at that His Solutions though to counter far right/Alt right arguments are terrible He advocates for mass censorship and I can’t maybe he said something about like freezing their bank accounts to stop them

[@femsplainer]

I mean there's so many memes about this concept, it's not exactly new. The whole "Everyone I dislike is literally Hitler" meme comes to mind most prominently. Lefties completely disengage with discourse by calling their opposition racist, sexist, homophobic etc etc, even when the discussion is something like opposing so-called Green Initiatives...It takes a lot of mental gymnastics to go from "I don't think that wind energy is actually the proper solution to our long term energy issues" to "you're a racist.", but they do it all the freaking time because they don't want to engage with the argument, they just want you to blindly accept the proposed solutions and stop standing in the way of "progress"...

[@gabrieljorquera4953]

@@femsplainer Actually, this was one of the few times I disagreed with Destiny. Biden's campaign won on the fact he was defeating Trump, not that anyone actually wanted specifically him (I certainly didnt). Even today one of the biggest concerns Democrats have is the preservation of democracy, so Biden excoriating MAGA supporters who deny the election is a way Biden can remind democrats and anyone who doesnt wanna be f**ked over by another coup d'etat (that actually works next time) to go and vote before their rights are taken away. There really isnt a way to reasonably talk to people who automatically think your side "stole" the elections and arent willing to listen to basic facts. Id argue it is effective to drum up support by playing up how evil the opposition is to motivate the democratic core and hopefully whatever independents have enough of a brain to see Trump for what he is. Maybe theres a more nuanced take, but to say its ineffective and not a valid political tactic I think is incorrect.

[@femsplainer]

@@gabrieljorquera4953 If you honestly think that Jan 6 was an attempted coup then you're a smooth brain. Over 350 million guns in the country and not one of them took one into the capital while trying to "overthrow the government"? Gimme a break. Was Jan 6 bad? yes of course it was a very bad thing, but having people tout it as the "worst attack on our democracy ever" have completely forgotten history and the fact that the Senate was previously BOMBED by extremist lefties. Some guys wandering around and crapping on desks takes a DISTANT backseat to that in my book. No, Jan 6 is the bogeyman that the left will regret making their primary focus because we're already seeing mainstream backlash from the one sided coverage and investigations of the events, and it is not looking good. If you honestly want to defeat the rightoids, then pearl clutching about the singular right wing riot of note is not the way to go. People in glass houses and all that. Also, I don't know if you've been following the Kari Lake situation, but the fact that litigation has continued this long and the purported findings after they were given a chance to investigate the signatures and do proper discovery may embolden the conspiracy theorists further, because it might not actually be just a theory. No, I think the dems are going down a terrible path if they want to even have a chance of winning in 2024 and they need to get to grass roots and quick, because the economy is in the toilet and no amount of "but muh jobs numbers" is going to make people not look at the significantly increased grocery bill. They need to start addressing kitchen table issues or Trump WILL get back in office...

[@GasDude1011]

The bubble that these people live in is surreal

[@keithfilibeck2390]

Upper middle class trust fund kids are increasingly more annoying day to day

[@hitmankiller123]

@Brown99 agreed

[@Kino_pup]

@@keithfilibeck2390they kill me.. they try to act like they aren’t upper class kids their whole life but it always shines through.

[@epic1053]

It gets even crazier if you actually look into what JK has said and none of the quotes come close to wanting trans people dead or even transphobia at all. The worst thing she's said is she complained about women being called birthing people in a news article. I think Harry Potter had alot LGBT fans who can't handle that JK isn't 100 percent on board with everything LGBT and they've taken it as transphobia.

[@johnnwa9981]

@@epic1053 ding ding ding you hit the nail on the heads winner!

[@mysterypianoboy1]

Im very sad that this video led to me reading what jk rowling ACTUALLY said about trans-people, and it is absolutely nothing similar to what people on twitter are claiming she said. Responding «Trans-women are women» to JKRs comments is like responding «incest is not okay» to george R. R. Martin. Seriously missing the point

[@nathijomac]

99% of people in the UK have no idea that this debate about JK Rowling is even going on. Edit: It's more unethical to pirate it than actually pay and play it.

[@meteorwalkergg]

Guy at the beginning has me wanting to preorder, play, and make content out of Hogwarts Legacy

[@harryfieldson]

One thing that genuinely surprised me about Harry Potter is how well Prisoner of Askaban sticks to the rules it sets out about time travel. We got a whiteboard out to track the shit that was getting fucked up in different timelines and they actually seamlessly close all the loops by the end of the movie and no 14 year old audience member or their mother would ever require them to care about shit like that. The movies are legitimately decent and calling Ralph Phinnes bad is a dogshit take.

[@mikecurry6847]

I mean I get that most of the people who have watched the movies haven't also read the books, but these complaints are very common from people who have

[@lampad4549]

But didnt the time turner introduce a plot hole in the universe why was it never used again?

[@iammunhu]

My favorite HP movie and book I have read. The movie captured the book pretty good!

[@xbefri23]

Ralph Fiennes was completely unintimidating and goofy as Voldemort. NYYEEEEEEAAA

[@TheJordanK]

@@lampad4549I believe they were all conveniently destroyed in the fight at the Ministry.

[@iody247]

this conversation has made me want to buy the game twice.

[@ladychelseatheundead]

In this episode, Destiny explains how pirating is stealing to people who I guess have never heard that downloading something for free isn't the same as paying for it. lol

[@MrSporkdude]

shush now let these privileged people tell you about what's moral ya poor

[@patterofheads256]

Pirating is great. I would download a car.

[@AKABattousai]

Woulda been funny if they drifted into unemployment territory and patent trolls.

[@AKABattousai]

@@d76458 it depends on how you want to be looked at. Some musicians and stuff were encouraging their songs to be downloaded as long as the the songs were in lesser quality forms. Than the main product. And way back in the day a huge amount of the PC devs would encourage more PC circles to play their games to promote their brand as game devs. Some people like the exposure. And those who know they have a good product in like the top ten demand know they can enforce their trademarks. You look scummy as Sony or Disney whoever it was that made a family remove a spiderman they put on a dead child's gravestone. It doesn't mean there's some broad law that says it's ok to copy someones work. Im not some moral high roader though, I lived through Napster and Limewire along with bit torrenting. I only bought about half the music I grabbed from those bands. And the games I got were from broken discs and stuff. For the recoup in games I saw was when you could go to Lan parties and people were excited to share games they were already playing. Which I saw some people go buy the real games after. Like half life and counterstrike were big ones. Along with quake and unreal tournament. My stance is you get it if you want it. As like a sample, and buy it if you like it. If you never intend to buy a game you like playing I feel you are then stealing it or not giving credit where it was made. But this is only my stance for music and games. For things like programs and movies I'll call it stealing off the bat and something people should try to reduce.

[@Falcun21]

@@d76458 Metallica v. Napster.

[@User71956]

News: Don't let your children play GTA 3. Me at 13: I'm so playing this game! Twitter: don't play the Harry Potter game Me at 34: I'm so playing this game!

[@rellha3940]

Yup lol

[@cdot32]

you are a sheep

[@theguyshadows]

Game is ass anyway.

[@mikerollin4073]

Finger wagging is inspiring indeed!

[@AKABattousai]

The cops are D bags in the need for speed games. I remember them trying to get parents to boycott because they thought it encouraged violence against police.

[@davidd7201]

I actually pre-ordered the game because of this video reminding me of it. It was not on my radar at all.

[@donniejefferson9554]

Yeah I gotta get on that. I knew it was out soon but now I'll remember to grab it right away

[@neosho3953]

same

[@doubles7951]

same LOL

[@dv2945]

stop preordering shit mfers you're making my life worse

[@donniejefferson9554]

@@dv2945 How so?

[@kingryan69]

ffs Rowling literally never said anything even remotely worth this much manufactured outrage. These people need to put their pitchforks away

[@nokiot9]

Right? I can’t believe this crap. Then again I kind of can- it’s the natural conclusion of rabid identity politics and intersectionality.

[@ghostwitch644]

@@nokiot9 Do you know what “intersectionality” means?

[@nokiot9]

@@ghostwitch644 yes: the interconnected nature of social categorizations such as race, class, and gender as they apply to a given individual or group, regarded as creating overlapping and interdependent systems of discrimination or disadvantage. Which exactly encompasses this issue.

[@nokiot9]

@@ghostwitch644 did you have a reason for asking or was it an ad/hom-appeal-to-aurhority question?

[@kingryan69]

@@nokiot9 its something that wannabe desitny folks try, it works when arguing with leftists because in general they dont know anything, it backfires when you try it on people who actually know what we are talking about lol

[@jarad9946]

How did commentators like Erin and pixie gain a following in an intellectual space??

[@sub-harmonik]

do they have followings? if so maybe bc they parrot uncritical lefty takes and are followed by similar uncritical types? idk. but I do kind of feel sorry for them bc they're willing to engage in the space and everyone's calling them dumb

[@AJweathersby]

Simple: This isn’t an “intellectual” space. It’s a space for conversations and arguing. Being good at arguing and having interesting conversations doesn’t make you an intellectual. It makes you a good communicator.

[@CodeeXD]

They have lady bits and most of these consumers are redditors

[@Meli-1992]

I end up asking that same question whenever I see anything with Pixie in them. Her takes are so braindead.

[@afabor]

i now understand why people dislike pixie holy shit

[@thepoofster2251]

First I heard of her, and I hope its the last

[@AspiringDevil]

I'd never seen her before but yeah like I astoundingly understand why people can't stand her.

[@stillnotchill2560]

@@AspiringDevil astoundingly?

[@undead9736]

She seems much more intelligent then most of the people destiny talks to so I can't understand that.

[@ShmoeBoe]

@@undead9736 Intelligence has zero bearing on likeability. In fact it sometimes has a detrimental effect.

[@TeddyOG]

I guarantee this 'boycott' has only lead to people petty-buying the game that probably wouldn't have, while the people that are boycotting probably weren't even going to play in the first place. Meanwhile the other 95% of sales are people that aren't even on Twitter or know about this discourse at all lol

[@knes167]

Meeeeeee lol. If it wasn't for the coercion and gaslighting to mentally manipulate ppl I wouldn't have cared about the boycott The underhandedness of doesn't sit well with me. The boycott is more about attempting some harm on JKR in some way for not agreeing verbatim with the Trans-doctorine than it is about "helping" trans ppl. It's ambulance Chasey in a way

[@silenceyouidiot]

That's about my take. You got normal people who aren't into Twitter or Reddit who looks up more info on a TV trailer only to get headlines like, "Actor from some Gay show apologizes over work he did on Hogwarts Legacy over three years ago as audiences call for him to be fired." :P Same with the antisemitism goblin take, most people don't think of these things so edgy trolls are out here cracking jokes about how they can simulate against a revolution. But the boycotters are opening the gates to people to be like, "See? This is a caricature of people. Identify it."

[@TeddyOG]

@@knes167 yeah it's just virtue signaling from ally to ally to stop doing something they likely weren't going to do anyways. Some of the backlash was so silly I almost thought I'd get the game myself and start grifting right wingers to watch me stream it lol. When otherwise the game would have passed me without even a glance. 'Harry Potter game? Naw thanks' 'Overblown culture war token? Hmmm...'

[@brak1296]

I'm not petty buying it, I'm buying it because it legitimately looks like a good game. BUT I wouldn't have even looked at this game had this controversy not pushed it into the spot light.

[@radicalcentrist5665]

I was not interested in the game but after the controversy, I looked into the game and I might buy it because it sounds fun. P.S. I have never been interested in the Harry Potter universe

[@lonewaer]

It's fascinating that Erin consistently dies on the most shittaky hills regardless of topic. I don't know how she does it.

[@PaulSmith-nb6md]

Ignorance builds confidence

[@lafxcraft]

@@PaulSmith-nb6md What is Erin ignorant on here??

[@PaulSmith-nb6md]

@@lafxcraft Did you watch the video?

[@Asharis]

She actually has never explicitly stated that she sees people buying her products as endorsing her views, you might be able to say she implied it but she has never said explicitly.

[@luminous3558]

It also just doesn't matter. Its the same "The voices told me to do it" argument, just because someone says that the actions of others inspire them doesn't make someone else responsible for actions that person did of their free will. JKR isn't gonna change her mind on this topic its incredibly personal to her and she has had a lot of twitter hate for years which have pretty much made a compromise impossible. She also just has a ton of residual income from many sources. This game means nothing to her actual ability to do anything.

[@jek4837]

I know I'm 6 months late to this video, but thanks for doing the research (I assume). That was the first thing I tried looking up (for a couple minutes before I got bored). I figured this girl was all worked up about something that was never actually said.

[@SAMcGarvey1]

I like how her first name has become a cursed word. She who shall not be named.

[@Kyubii01]

What’s her name ?

[@tiktokexposed898]

@@Kyubii01 lav im assuming

[@badgamerclive7797]

Odeeeeee!

[@AKABattousai]

It used to be the other girl. But close enough. If we want to go with lav.

[@AKABattousai]

@Zero oddly enough I actually can't remember it anymore haha.

[@lances6602]

These exact same Looney Tunes would use the game -not selling well- as proof, and vindication that the game not selling was support of their moral ideals. But, someone claiming the opposite as proof of their convictions is totally off the table.

[@uppercutgrandma4425]

Lol 100% human nature

[@sweetviolents29]

Imagine thinking your cringe boycott makes you the chosen one who will finally reveal to the unwitting JK Rowling that some people don't like her lmao

[@saiyamoru]

It's pretty funny to hear people talk about 'boycotting this game will prove to jk rowling her views aren't welcome in society' like three weeks later when it's already broken records in terms of sales.

[@keggerous]

If I live the rest of my life never hearing pixie talk again, I'll consider myself blessed.

[@toxicwaltz0863]

I'm a new fan but yeah she can go back k to wherever she came from

[@boost800]

bahaha best comment here

[@Andy-qf1kc]

Then just don't watch content with her. 100% skill issue.

[@ViperCannabis]

@@Andy-qf1kc Disagree. If he managed to sit and listen to her talk for hours just for the sake of her self-own, is very much skilled. He got gud!

[@smiley__kylee]

Okay now I see what that guy meant about Pixie…

[@deang8910]

Just because someone disagrees with you does not make them bad faith…

[@ryohio4706]

Especially near the end, I thought Destiny was actually being ultra slimey with a lot of his arguments, constantly bouncing back and forth between micro and macro and arguing against whichever Pixie/Erin would bring up, lol., Always using the 10/10 EXTREMES for his examples, he gets called out for how rediculous the examples he's citing are so he just says "it's not my fault, leftists say these crazy things, so since conservatives can use it against them, I HAVE to use it against leftists!?". Idk, I could give more examples, but he was being rediculous a lot, lol.

[@jonathanjones635]

Destiny literally explained his reasons for doing so and it was still lost on you?

[@deang8910]

@@jonathanjones635 I don’t just listen to Destiny with a glazed over look on my face and nod.

[@shedshitley]

i mean JK Rowling seems like she kinda sucks on a personal level but the actual problem here is how unbelievably limited our political imaginations are. this is just another example of how we genuinely think that consuming the correct products and publically denouncing the incorrect products is not only an act of political engagement, but the only act of political engagement that's possible - it's incredibly depressing.

[@limitedhangoutlive]

You keep “lol it’s Twitter” when Oreily was talking about this 15 years ago and it is unequivocally mainstream talking points. This is the issue debating these topics with children like Erin. She hasn’t seen how fast this stuff has transitioned to popularity and just how loud the vocal minority has become. This is why buying Hogsworth as a form of payback is working, because these “just Twitter” lunatics are controlling mainstream discourse, media, entertainment, and our institutions.

[@TheSwamphobbit]

Pixie claimed (and I know others are as well) that JK believes that sales for Legacy is support for her views on Trans issues but does anyone have that quote? I am trying to find it but cannot see anything.

[@MsHojat]

That would be a really odd take for her to have/say. Seems quite doubtful although I suppose it's still possible since people do sometimes say dumb stuff. For that matter I think that argument would bite Rowling in the foot because that seems to imply that people don't care about the quality of her works, only/mostly of her opinions. Obviously that's false. Perhaps she said that _some_ people are purchasing it specifically to support her, although even if that's true (which is certainly likely), I would think that there are better ways to support her than that.

[@TheSwamphobbit]

@@MsHojat yeah, that was my general thought. When I had a look, I saw that she has said that 90% of letters she gets are from people who say they agree with her opinions but are afraid to speak up. She also tweeted in response to someone asking how she sleeps at night knowing a whole bunch of people will never read her books and her reply was she looks at her latest royalty check. Neither of which I think proves the point that they want to make. Some are arguing that it isn't financial but cultural capital that we are providing to her, but I would argue that given how much the companies (Portkey Games and WB Games) are trying to distance themselves from JK I am not sure that she has this huge capital to push people. I would almost argue that by complaining about this (or at the very least, in the method that people are complaining) you are giving JK the cultural capital, but that is a rabbit hole of an argument to have.

[@Etoilecoco]

As someone who works in the film and game industry. If a game or film doesn't sale the studio might not have enough money to get their next project. They might fire people to not have to pay them and make the ones that are staying work harder to be able to produce the next film or game. Like avatar need to make more than 2 billion for Avatar 4 to be able to be produced. Those people worked hard for this game. Paying for this game isn't for JK but for the love all those employees, more than 500 people here. Avalanche is a great studio and a lot of their employees had and still have a bad time with the social pressure they are receiving.

[@kevinarnold8634]

Absolutely! There are a lot up front costs associated with games and movies with not much in the way of return until they come out. They are inherently risky ventures where one of two failures could easily doom some companies, negatively impacting the lives of everyone involved and those close to them. The impact of such thefts deserves more than the casual disregard many extend to them.

[@S1leNtRIP]

What a classic convo. Miss this kind of content.

[@LoyalUK]

Im pre-ordering and supporting hogwarts legacy coz that dude told me not too.

[@jasoncreamer5747]

Same, I don't even like the Harry Potter universe. I only watched the first movie but these people need to be stopped.

[@donotinteract7851]

@@jasoncreamer5747 Consooooooming product to own the libs

[@rellha3940]

I’m buying 3 copies

[@shadow12k]

This is some petty ahh shit 😂

[@davidwright6591]

Least spiteful destiny fan

[@warmagic9312]

"Youre going to hell if you buy that game" - old people mad at DnD in the 80's/90's and young people mad at Harry Potter in 2023.

[@mss0267]

Since they were trying to appeal to their logic, I wish one of them would have asked something like.. "If you have a sibling that's extremely racist and you just released a brand new song that you hope to get royalties/payment from, is it perfectly okay for people to steal from you because of your sibling's racist opinions?" Cause it seemed like they tried to make the argument that it will affect the developers; aka people who have no affiliation to JK's viewpoints. Theft is theft, and I'm sure if those two girls had it happen to them, they'd have a different opinion. They constantly have to make it morally "just" in order to accept the idea of theft despite being so okay with it. Whether or not this game succeeds, it hardly affects JK.

[@CodeeXD]

"DoWnLoAdInG iSnT sTeAlInG" though. And yeah better believe they would have an issue if you downloaded their onlyfans content without paying for it

[@AresGodOWar]

All these people want to be the ethical justice warrior when it fits their agenda, But as soon as they support someone that is bad, It's ok for them too do it.

[@adifferentfeelingmusic]

The moment Pixie asked “do companies keep track of piracy” was the moment o check out. She’s Ill equipped, has no idea what she’s talking about and hides behind irony when she doesn’t know what she’s talking about

[@blarblablarblar]

idk I like pxie when she comes on, she's good as an everyman for scrubs like myself

[@FoddAlmighty]

o7. First off all HOW DARE YOU! You are EXACTLY the type of subreddit poster that Destiny hates! Second of all HOW DARE YOU suggest Pixie is ill equiped?! *4thot voice* ehmm sir, do you have receipts and sources for every criticism you are making? Because, ahem, if not, its a perma ban for you buddy. HOW DARE YOU be mean to orbiters! HOW DARE YOU

[@Meladjusted]

That's soooo many people online. Forever 15 years old.

[@nkosimataka5565]

16:50 this man’s thought process was so beautifully laid out and articulated

[@canadianturtle7240]

God bless Nebraska Steve

[@Benbones99]

whats the guys name whos talking at the start?

[@TeaNoSugar87]

The vertical video at the start had such sharp sibilance that it created a blade of air and cut my ear off

[@Amias1221]

Am I the only one sooooo tired of having thousands of people telling us how to live life and how wrong everything we do/ say really is we cannot even enjoy our hobbies😫… please just let us live this really short life without trying to control or manipulate every little action.

[@lookimapickle3193]

Wow it's almost as if you're starting to understand how minorities feel

[@Amias1221]

@@lookimapickle3193lmao I am a minority? 1 and 500,000 people look like me I have vitiligo all over my body so don’t come at me with bullshit acting like we are different.. I have a brain,nose mouth and consciousness I’m no different than you we are both human it’s I just don’t bitch about it or try to take advantage of the way my DNA was spliced! 🤯

[@lookimapickle3193]

@@Amias1221 ah yes i forgot about the extremely well-documented political campaign against people with vitiligo. i forgot about the way in which people with vitiligo are regularly shut out of social spaces. you're right, you totally don't see yourself as a victim at all, unlike those other silly people.

[@Amias1221]

@@lookimapickle3193 oh, that’s right your problems are so much worse than everybody else’s. I always forget that..

[@lookimapickle3193]

@@Amias1221 i would love to see some of the recent laws drafted regarding people with vitiligo, maybe you could share them with me?

[@serhiiriabov5634]

OMG, those orbiters are so freakin' soy.

[@LuridContent]

Being an ally implies a mutually beneficial relationship. I feel like trans people are nearing the end of the goodwill that's been extended. My advice would be that this isn't the hill trans activists want to die on.

[@knes167]

But you know the "ally" tips ARE going to die on this hill lol. If it flops it'll just be lost to history and acted as of it never happened though

[@keithfilibeck2390]

Lol, the lefty label of "Ally" has meant lower caste servant for almost a decade, one that means if you step out of line at all you'll be cast out, it has NEVER been a label of mutuality.

[@furyberserk]

@@knes167 I expect 3 trans people to pull a smarter quantum tv.

[@LuridContent]

@@keithfilibeck2390 That's the thing, though. It's not a matter of being an ally. It's a matter of catering. Hence why I said the goodwill is starting to whither.

[@knes167]

@@furyberserk Quantum TV? What does that mean

[@legessi]

The hug was done that way to show that Voldemort has so little capacity for love and empathy that he couldn't even give a hug.

[@Abba02]

I can't imagine living in a country that is so disconnected from reality where you have to say "woman assigned at birth" instead of just "woman"

[@Ryan-kj5wo]

Lmao to be fair its only half of the country (or less even) Lots of us americans are still sane and grounded in reality

[@heinshaaine8153]

Come back in 20 years when you reach the mental maturity to understand the topic...

[@Ryan-kj5wo]

@heinshaaine8153 lol its always the ppl that can't define what a woman is who think they're the most intelligent

[@dis_appointed8626]

And privileged enough to say shit like this. In my country men aren't able to find women for marriage cause the sex selective killings have screwed up the sex ratio of the country

[@tims5978]

​@@dis_appointed8626thats fucked and put things into perspective damn

[@theZEEZ]

The mental gymnastics around answering if stealing is bad was pretty maddening, it seems like she thinks outliers and anomaly's should be the rule - tbh that's what I think is wrong with a lot of their ideology.

[@ai5563]

If the game is good, you should be able to play the game. People don’t realise that the only ones actually affected by the results of the sales of this game are the developers, artists, musicians etc. that have probably put a helluva lot of effort into this game. If the game is fun, that’s good but if the game is not fun why bother?

[@nuggetmancer9402]

Exactly people say that the devs got paid and that's so short sighted. If the game underperforms it puts the studio in a tough spot for their next game especially if they need funding from a big company like WB their less likely to do what they want and have restrictions or a smaller budget

[@env0x]

yea their big baddie jk rowling is getting paid regardless and she profits off the controversy massively. there's no such thing as "bad publicity" when you are that influential and famous. they think they're doing something by soying out so hard over this but all they're doing is just making her richer and more famous than she already is. and yea if the game under-performs in the market the only ones taking a loss are the devs and all those who worked on it, who have probably never even met jk rowling in their life.

[@bennymountain1]

Then they should've picked an IP not created by an ignorant bigot, lol. Or maybe I don't know, come up with something original.

[@ai5563]

@@bennymountain1 With that logic, anyone who has ever liked Disney ever is also a bigot, anyone who watches the Olympic torch do it’s run likes Nazi Propaganda and the American constitution should be completely rewritten cause Madison owned slaves. Once again, people working on the game shouldn’t be punished for someone else’s disgusting opinions, cause if they are, the person they’re actually looking to take down can look at this as a simple drop in the ocean.

[@crzyprplmnky]

Alternatively, is the issue really that no one should ever boycott anything ever? Or do you think the stated reasons for the boycott aren't sufficient? Be careful not to make arguments that prove too much.

[@ksulli5505]

I’m gonna buy the game now out of spite towards Erin and Pixie

[@relevantusername3342]

Does anyone here even know what Rowling said at this point?

[@GunBreaux]

The girl here follows up every half hearted attempt at an argument with, "lol, jk."

[@Activated62]

Kinda insane to me that JK Rowlings tweet even became such a controversial topic in the first place. She said *nothing* that wasn't correct.

[@DiddntFindANameLol]

Lmao she outright lied a bunch, cmon. It's fine to not have followed this stuff, but don't pretend you did a second of digging.

[@gilliancourtney4701]

@@DiddntFindANameLol what lies? Please list them

[@DiddntFindANameLol]

@@gilliancourtney4701 sure pal, how about the time she flipped out and cried because some trans protestors had doxxed her? And it turned out her house had it's own fucking Wikipedia page. Tour busses literally drive by and point it out.

[@mikesmith542]

@@gilliancourtney4701 Like everyone criticizing JK for simply saying an undeniable fact: men can't be women, he has disappeared into the ether for the slightest pushback.

[@MrAvrg]

0:35 i have never seen such an effective ad for a video game than this. Amazing

[@robinthrush9672]

It's amazing how many evil "moral" people Destiny talks to.

[@keithfilibeck2390]

Lefty's have to feel good at all times, at least rightys that are evil just completely wear it

[@Focus716]

Erin offers 0 value to the stream

[@LoyalUK]

Erin, pixie, ragepope and weaselsupreme are all like that shit my cat has sometimes and it gets stuck to her fur. Cling on's

[@mickeycostagain660]

He’s going to hit lol mark my words I said it with lav

[@Dementia.Pugilistica]

i don't think she believes most of what she says

[@gnomadD_]

Note to Editor: When there aren't Discord labels to indicate who's speaking, can you help out with some labels? Thanks in advance and good work otherwise!

[@MsHojat]

Agreed. One time I had said this, but turns out there _was_ an indicator that I just never noticed. This time there certainly isn't though.

[@gnomadD_]

​@@MsHojat Yeah. I had thought to ask in the past but then noticed the discord labels and have been relying on those since then. When they aren't there, like in this video, it can sometimes be a challenge to keep track of who's speaking or even who's there as people jump in and out of Discord chat.

[@Linkolod]

Ralph Fines doing a bad job ad Voldemort is the most interesting take I've ever heard on Harry Potter

[@CodeeXD]

Idk to me it comes off as that one guy everyone knows who hates everything everyone else likes and has an absolutely insane and unreasonable take

[@thefutureisnowoldman7653]

It's amazing how much these women Hate treffs yet know nothing about them

[@RedAnimal100]

Saying Ralph fiennes as Voldemort is terrible is like WHATTT IN WHAT WORLLDDD

[@theguyshadows]

Literally the dumbest opinion anyone has ever uttered on this planet.

[@Anbutou]

Dude that ONE take nearly equaled Pix's entire stream's bad takes this day.

[@xbefri23]

The Emperor in rise of skywalker was better than Voldemort in any of the Harry Potter movies lol

[@drearmouse9510]

Why do people hate terfs again? I'm prolly gonna space out before they get to that, but yeah. Always wondered what foooul evil Rowling musta comitted to get these people so pissy.

[@the_inquisitive_inquisitor]

Something about bathrooms, probably.

[@drearmouse9510]

@@the_inquisitive_inquisitor Wow. Wldnt be surprised. Haven't even used a public bathroom in years. Ha. Never understood wanting to go to a bathroom that "matches your gender identity." I'm a dude and still get uncomfortable around other dudes whippin their dicks out. Like.. i'm legit trying to understand the trans struggle, but it just keeps sounding like a lot of sanctimonious self righteous whining. TT_TT

[@the_inquisitive_inquisitor]

@@drearmouse9510 Lmao right? Dawg, I don't want to poop next to _anybody._

[@drearmouse9510]

@@the_inquisitive_inquisitor Aaaamen. xD

[@WaffleStomper69]

I adore how Destiny does these streams with the Our Special Path charity. I think it's so nice of him.

[@creamInbetweens]

Started watching this Video A Hogwarts ad plays lmao

[@acetown2263]

I'm gonna play hogwarts legacy because I seperate the art from the artist lmao

[@hinglemccringleberry1255]

I play it only because of the artist

[@eddieisfiction442]

i won’t play it most likely unless it’s good because i was too old when the books came out and i didn’t identify with it

[@akselandor8975]

I learned to do this long ago, when Rawling were saying some dumb cringe an lefties were cheering her on. Now she's saying the wrong dumb shit, lefties melt and I just laugh.

[@Irishhound]

@@akselandor8975 I learned to do this when the writer for Ruroni Kenshin was arrested for child porn.

[@arreca09]

Im gonna play Hogwarts Legacy because I love Harry Potter and I love cis women

[@nyoin2028]

When what she saids already taken out of context and just used to rage on, its even harder to take it serious when the next thing they're butmad about is a video game.

[@eeeemmteeee]

" A fringe position gets overwhelming support!" uh.... wut? That's a popular position... you're the fringe....

[@mrodo5175]

Man can we have timestamps for when erin leaves the call

[@gaz4553]

I was on the fence about getting Hogwarts legacy. Than I learned that Rowling would make a profit if I did so now I got it on preorder. Lol

[@nkxseal8398]

I preordered 2 copies

[@koolarooo]

That shits just as cringy as the people not buying it because JK lol

[@godcomplex5821]

​@@koolarooo i think its a joke chap

[@koolarooo]

@@godcomplex5821 yeah I wasn’t sure if they were joking or like a quartering fan or something

[@MaxHeadshroom1]

I will buy every copy I see

[@thescarecrow897]

im not even that into harry potter, the movies were alright. But im for sure gonna be playing this game because of all the crying

[@TheSuperGuitarGuy]

There are many valid reasons to not like the films. Ralph Fiennes as Voldemort is not even on the lists

[@ponderingpolitics]

Yeah well I put him on the list anyway; come at me

[@ldane1991]

I love how I'm getting ads of this game as I'm listening to this debate

[@liveesunflower]

If someone can please let me know exactly what JKR said that was so transphobic and caused this much vitriol? Like did I miss something heinous? Like did she wish death upon trans folks?

[@jessie6600]

This is one of the tweets she posted: “If sex isn’t real, there’s no same-sex attraction. If sex isn’t real, the lived reality of women globally is erased. I know and love trans people, but erasing the concept of sex removes the ability of many to meaningfully discuss their lives. It isn’t hate to speak the truth.” Another tweet: “I respect every trans person’s right to live any way that feels authentic and comfortable to them. I’d march with you if you were discriminated against on the basis of being trans. At the same time, my life has been shaped by being female. I do not believe it’s hateful to say so.” I think these sum up her view of trans people well.

[@VGMoose]

Libraries do not need or require permission from publishers or authors to lend their works to the public.

[@the_inquisitive_inquisitor]

Right, but they *pay* for their copies.

[@euko7469]

​@@the_inquisitive_inquisitor you're not supposed to share the copies, it's in the T&C. same way you're not suppose to share your steam account

[@the_inquisitive_inquisitor]

@@euko7469 I'm sorry, I thought we were talking about books because of the whole "library" thing. Do libraries rent out video games?

[@euko7469]

@@the_inquisitive_inquisitor yeah, they let people borrow them. someone in the vid brought it up as a counter against pirating the hp legacy being bad

[@the_inquisitive_inquisitor]

@@euko7469 Still, only one person gets it at a time and 10 other people _might still buy a copy_ before they get a chance to rent it.

[@Tyreeceholmes]

it always amazes me how inept people can be and every day Destiny brings on someone who reminds me "wow people are willfully stupid to try and validate themselves "

[@krob8388]

In retrospect, the funny thing is these people don't understand they gave the game free marketing by attempting to boycott it. The game is doing great. I can stand with trans people while enjoying media from my childhood. Side note, these people don't understand they’re hurting trans causes and pushing allies away with extremism.

[@TheRealRhasta]

Lol idgf if jk Rowling turns out to be the anti christ nothing will take my love of the Harry Potter series from me.

[@bluepilledalpha]

Anti Christ is based tho..

[@lucidberrypro]

😅🤣😭

[@off6848]

@@bluepilledalpha soy take

[@D.S.handle]

Dart Vader has also made a lot of awkward noises.

[@ponderingpolitics]

Yeah ok but he had killer asthma and I’m not about to be ableist to the Dark Lord of the Sith

[@andyk3514]

The problem with these ridiculous examples like a person starving or feeding a baby, is that the person making the decision is making a choice between the lesser of two evils. Just because someone has a potentially evil outcome by doing nothing (watching a baby starve), that doesn't make it GOOD or morally neutral to steal. It means that both choices were bad, but one was less bad.

[@djiango9307]

I was thinking the same. The comparison is less sound when you also consider that pirating the game gives the person a direct benefit AND there is another moral choice that is more neutral and creates less harm i.e. not playing the game

[@ade8890]

Idk this sounds like a form of begging the question. Is choosing the most moral option available really considered immoral? I would argue "picking the lesser of two evils" automatically means you're picking the moral option.

[@akuakkk1908]

@@ade8890 yep, you're correct... I think. When choosing between the lesser evil, it is considered moral to do so. Say, war is bad but if there are people waging war against you then it is morally correct to stand up and fight even if it mean countless people would die and suffer. You can't say that it is good, it simply mean justified. As it is then based on conditions hence when a better option surface/appeared only then would the action be considered immoral again when it is continued. War stops being justified when the aggressing party ceased to be a threat or offer a better solution (like opening dialogue option). It is to my believe that despite we as human share similar or even the same value at times. Morality isn't universal and instead subjective even if it can be objectively analyzed.

[@ade8890]

@@akuakkk1908 I agree, morality is circumstantial and relative. It can still be objectively analyzed, in the same way that you can figure out what items are best to be served for a group of people at a party. Taste is subjective, but if everybody is a vegan, serving meat is just stupid. Only semantic disagreement is that I would say it's moral, not just justified. Morality only refers to right/wrong, so if it's right for you to go to war, that means going to war is the moral option.

[@akuakkk1908]

@@ade8890 i disagree... A bit. When talking about morality i always assume there's two axis to consider. Good vs bad (good vs evil) and right vs wrong. I agree that if it's right for you to go to war then it is moral to do so. However it doesn't change that it is a bad thing. It may be semantic, however i believe there's a difference between the attitude of eager enthusiasm 'they're picking a fight so i am going to blow their brain out' compared to soft denial 'i don't have much choice, i have to fight back'. In both case, it is still the right thing to do to fight back. However, the former disregard that what they're doing still fall within the bound of evil even if he had a right to do so. Hence why i prefer the term justified when taking the lesser of the two evil rather than moral or right thing to do to indicate that it is still a bad thing, it's just that it can't be helped/you can't reasonably expect better.

[@vicrattlehead8665]

I’ve never watched a Harry Potter film video essay had my fucking dying for some reason