Leftist Finally Confronts Destiny About Hasan

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[@LastNightDestiny]

Arguing w/ Aba About Viral 40 Hour Gen Z Girl ►kzbin.info/www/bejne/rJOyqJl6mseBias

[@FirstUsername]

stop platforming idiots

[@michaelturley3457]

Destiny is a girls name

[@snugglestruggle8437]

This lady is off her rocker.

[@rehx4]

unfortunately this lady is not the sharpest tool in the shed... and if she were to read that statement she would in all likelihood cry sexism (or something of the sort) in protest, to deflect from the truth (bc that is what these types do) which is that she's just plain not very intelligent. And not being too smart is actually fine. What's not so fine is that she clearly THINKS she is much smarter than she actually is and acts like a condescending brat when she is exposed for it...

[@YellowMouse998]

​@@michaelturley345746:16

[@OhMyJoshy]

Please Destiny. Never talk to Katee again. Sincerely, Everyone

[@davidokinsky114]

I enjoyed this conversation. I also might be a masochist though.

[@AlexanderTheGoodEnough]

/sign

[@Crystal-yn9qb]

Where does she from, what accent is that? German?

[@AlexanderTheGoodEnough]

@@Crystal-yn9qb if your last name is Meth, we should hang out.

[@Crystal-yn9qb]

@@AlexanderTheGoodEnough I prefer blow to be honest! But yes, why not

[@TheJunmengo]

This person is the stereotype of a leftist that the right wing people think every leftist is, if you told me this is a improv /sketch character i would believe

[@Average_Internet_User101]

WTF you might be onto something!🤣🤣🤣

[@Testicule]

I swear shes the best method actor

[@__keys]

They think it's every leftist because the people representing leftism, with the biggest followings are mostly like this.

[@BlueEyedTrouble1]

the way I LOL'd in real life xD

[@ghostbirdlary]

because this is every leftist.

[@jourdanball1112]

I’m Jewish and I’ve lived in five different countries around the world and no single person has ever said “shekel shekel” to me or assumed I speak Yiddish…

[@nikjkeenan2866]

Muslims also constantly answer the question "where do you come from"? with "I'm actually Muslim" since apparently that's an ethnicity, just like being Jewish. Katee is so knowledgeable, she could teach gender science at university

[@nollj33]

Me neither, idt most people even know Yiddish exists lol

[@jourdanball1112]

@@nollj33 nor shekels for that matter

[@Aryzo]

@@nikjkeenan2866 she would probably uniornically agree with you because shes so sheltered and clueless

[@Aryzo]

Also she goes from "I would LOVE for you to make more fun of Jews than Muslims" to "REEEE saying shekel shekel is a MICROAGRESSION talk to some JEWS and check your PRIVILEGE" xDD

[@razgrizfps]

I’m at the halfway mark and am still waiting on this woman to make a cohesive point to support her entire reason for being here. I feel like I’m watching a child try to explain why they need to stay up for 30 more minutes. UPDATE: It turns out the child was just trying to stay up for 2 hours.

[@nikjkeenan2866]

So true

[@FortisV]

This might be the most insufferable conversation of the year. Only watch if you feel like ruining your day.

[@philo2189]

Where would you rank it in destiny insufferable conversation lore?

[@lemonheadkw2493]

@@philo2189maybe approaching resident Sunday? It’s not there yet though

[@honkhonk1715]

This is why youtube and vod watchers are superior. Imagine not being able to speed up or jump around the video.

[@just_a_turtle_chad]

Hearing destiny talk is constantly insufferable

[@nazakomu]

@@just_a_turtle_chad yet you's always there for it curious

[@adonys9451]

The second she sighed after being asked for her definition of racism I just wrote her off 100 percent completely

[@ahabgaddis7277]

She seems like the kind of person that doesn't like rightwingers incoherently using "woke" but also okay with nebulously using "racism"

[@damepenn5483]

If this is your first impression of her then that is understandable, but she is very extreme, a communists who want to abolish private property among other things.

[@dontpanicjustin]

Reminds me of the girl on the whatever podcast when asked what patriarchy was, then she cried and asked to leave.

[@mrpipps90]

Damn it took you that long?

[@2freet]

That‘s more than 1h into the convo, you crazy?

[@demonicar]

I lost it when I realized that this girl thinks she is a "brown" person.

[@MultiAsdag]

well she thinks Hasan is too... so... ofc.. It's like thinking Obama is white.. Mad people..

[@nikjkeenan2866]

Time stamp?

[@demonicar]

@@nikjkeenan2866 somewhere around the time she said she thought Hasan was white. I can’t watch it again it’s too annoying.

[@Themanwhosaidsorry]

Timestamp?

[@zr1129]

@@demonicar Hasan is white.

[@robburch1]

She thinks she’s smarter than she is and clearly hasn’t thought through her positions at all because she would contradict herself from one sentence to the next.

[@ChaseFace]

The worst part about Katee is how she used to get REALLY fucking mad when people would disagree with her and make her look dumb, but now she hides it by giggling and being extremely passive aggressive. What an insufferably smug person.

[@mickyd5009]

From my experience watching debates she is a pretty standard lefty, the right isn't much different in this space either from a smug aspect

[@Dogan_TM]

Dude, when she grinds her teeth like a literal cartoon character, that shit sends me lmao

[@mikemorenilla7444]

I had no idea it was so easy to be an "influencer" with such bad ideas. I was born 10 years too early.

[@user-dq3xw9cv3e]

​@@mickyd5009cope lol

[@SummerOfMayhem]

Destiny; if you ever talk with this person again, could you ask her, where she as a women would rather live: in a Muslim country or a Jewish country/Israel. And where would she rather rise a daughter?

[@evilmar2363]

Basically Katee wants us to treat people differently based on their skin color

[@farcenter]

Except Hasan is white

[@bananian]

Yeah, can't make fun of Hasan because he's brown.

[@PunkiBrooster]

If people get worse treatment in life, it is virtuous to treat them better than someone who does not get shit on regularly. You are not a bad person if you choose to treat everybody the same, necessarily, you’re just not as good of a person as someone who goes out of their way to give more to those have have less. It’s pretty simple. Comes naturally to humans.

[@drew.p.y]

@@PunkiBrooster but the reality is most people on the internet or in cities or towns have a similar quality of life, with some variation. we are also usually talking in the context of american/western/progressive society. because that’s all that most of us truly understand.

[@evilmar2363]

@@PunkiBrooster sure but is it virtuous to treat them better on the basis of skin color

[@Rauzul]

As an Israeli Arab, I can tell that this lady is absolutely ignorant of the reality on the ground.

[@Limud123]

She is a psycho achi

[@Limud123]

Is she arab israeli

[@veraxionbyrne7839]

I can’t believe this woman actually thinks she sounds intelligent in this argument. The more she tries to make herself sound smart only did the opposite.

[@kage6271]

I watched this live and she kept reducing hasan to his ethnicity while most people on the Internet are judging him for the content of his character. Insane

[@LoudWaffle]

Exactly, I know countless people who hate Hasan, but I honestly can't think of any who hate him because he's Turkish.

[@WookieWarriorz]

​@@LoudWafflebro I guarantee I'm more Turkish than him and I'm a white dude who just goes there on holiday every year. Anytime ive heard him talking about there it's baffling, I don't think he's ever been past 5 years old lol.

[@lordoflobsters7254]

Also funny because if Hasan never said he was turkish most people would just assume he is white, and also Turkish people are treated like white people in most countries anyway.

[@iewutake]

​​@@WookieWarriorzsrsly. Im lithuanian and Turkey is a pretty popular summer destination. Hasan makes it look like its Afganistan in 2005 😂 hes so far removed its baffling

[@iewutake]

@@Sawleehaa because he loves hamas, not because hes turkish

[@SuperBBurner]

I love when Destiny has conversations with real-life strawmen

[@anarchopignut]

No shortage of content there.

[@gleekthemonkey4570]

Strawwoman actually

[@Badideasjpg]

@@gleekthemonkey4570 its 2024, Cant assume anything especially with the haircolor.

[@willknowsright9615]

Indeed comrade

[@namaste303]

I’m sorry, did any of you ask how they identify? I expect more from this community. Lol

[@ryancondie283]

Making fun of the guy openly supporting terrorists makes us the bad guys, thanks Katie, real 300 IQ take you have for us there. Edit: THE 180 ON THE GUSANO POINT HOLY FUCK. What a way to concede that you're acting in bad faith.

[@d5orin]

But she did say calling Hasan Hamas Piker is bad even tho she know's nothing about Turkey. Both were ignorant btw, calling him middle eastern. Didn't Hasan himself say over and over again that he's white? Who is she to say he's brown? That's soo.. racist.

[@leftoflibra]

Well why did those terrorist come about? Perhaps a 75 year occupation?

[@Rain649]

​@@leftoflibrayeah your as dumb as Katee with that comment. Saying Hasan who openly praises terrorists and conflating that to isreal bad is stupid and ignorant. Curious who did Isreal take land from.

[@ajax4676]

@@leftoflibraso? Even then, I’m making fun of the guy SUPPORTING terrorist. Whether or not you think they are justified, terrorism should almost never be the way we go about making our ideas known.

[@leftoflibra]

@@ajax4676 I didn’t ask you

[@briancomstock7741]

Does she think that a Zionist can't be non-Jewish?

[@skibooski6884]

I mean it’s a Jewish ideology so yeah you can’t be a non jew and have a Zionist opinion.

[@cambo7712]

"I'm autistic, so I will only use my words with extreme precision and will take issue if you say I said something slightly different to what I actually said" (Proceeds to lie out every corner of her mouth about what she said minutes earlier and continues to fail at the new point she just made up) lmao

[@BWGmedia]

It gets really annoying when she uses that as a shield.

[@bigdadybojangls9219]

“I’m autistic” is like the ULTIMATE forcefield for liars and slippery talkers.

[@HesderOleh]

I am autistic and get very stuck on exact wording of things. Which is actually why it drove me even more crazy that she was going on about being misunderstood, so I kept on scrubbing back and forth to make sure that she is actually contradicting herself. I don't understand if she thinks she is acting in good faith.

[@Lupostehgreat]

Bro, Autism is the new ADHD. You being autistic, unless it is tied with profound mental retardation like my younger brother, does not excuse you for being a fucking asshole. Once you are aware of your own mental issues, it is YOUR RESPONSIBILITY to counter it. The responsibility of the rest of society is to be compassionate and understanding if you are making an honest, good faith effort to change. Toxic positivity is the new toxic negativity.

[@petejones6827]

its what people that are actually mentally unstable say to make themselves feel normal about their fucked up brain.

[@myriadcorp]

This girl probably thinks saying Aloha is racist to people from Hawaii.

[@jdgoesham5381]

@@phillipoliverholtz9226 Only when she was called out on her hypocrisy.

[@deathpig.9847]

Only If White people do it.

[@tbone007]

​@@phillipoliverholtz9226I wonder if she thinks the show Vikings is cultural appropriation of black culture.

[@supersuede91]

The Law of Racism: if someone can't define racism within 15 seconds they are r.e.tarded and nothing they say on race is worth listening to

[@andrewvanderhoof2531]

Lmao😂😂

[@dhsiixjaks2937]

Her reference to the Crusades as evidence of Christian aggression/colonisation, while not realising the First Crusade was only triggered after 70% of previously Christian land was annexed and destroyed by the Islamic Caliphate of the time is hilarious.

[@Fabio-bu9bp]

Its amazing to see how little real info ok crusades is known

[@TheMasterblah]

She clearly has no historical knowledge outside of "crusaders went to the Levant and did bad things" Like, the Rhineland massacre is literally right there.

[@no_alias_for_me]

She is debating like a kid. Every time she is caught in some sort of irrationality she either sighs really long or just starts to laugh and do an act as if this was the dumbest thing someone could say. It's like exaggerated social cues from a training video haha

[@jasonthomas9319]

Look, she is clearly on the spectrum. She doesn't understand society or human interactions at a complex level. Think of when destiny talks to prime that's another person on the spectrum. I feel bad for them.

[@Xetarine]

​@@jasonthomas9319Why is she talking about these things then? I'm on the spectrum too and simply choose to not talk, I talked in a way similar to her irl and it never ended up with anything good Also, either she has terrible short-term memory like me or is just lying about not saying things she did say >.> I understand feeling bad and agree, but there's a limit, at least in my opinion

[@jasonthomas9319]

@Xetarine Ok people who suffer in serious ways can not understand that they themselves are on a spectrum. She can not grasp what communication is or how society interacts. She understands it in a more robotic way. A conversation to her is just an exchange of words. Whereas to the rest of us, a conversation is words, body language, eye contact, subtext etc...

[@Xetarine]

@@jasonthomas9319 Fair, I see your point

[@tetrapharmakos8868]

@@jasonthomas9319 What part of autism makes bad faith, misrepresentation, and cowardly backtracking ok?

[@goodoldgrim]

Katee holds the undisputed world record for most unearned attempts to condescend. Any time she's backed into a corner with nothing to say she lets out this exasperated sigh as if Destiny (or whoever else she's talking to - this is her signature move) had said something unreasonable.

[@MrDoctorProfessorWho]

She thinks justifying herself is not worth her time as far as I can tell. This means that any challenge which requires an explanation of her perspective is a waste of time. Any knowledgeable person would already know her perspective because it's the correct one. I think this best explains her condescension and impatience.

[@TheFatalcrest]

Dude I would have probably asked her 'Can you tell me what I'm missing instead of sighing like I'm a 7 year old in math class?' like she came for this conversation and now she's just not going to talk through her claims?

[@D2_Papaya]

@@MrDoctorProfessorWho are you being sarcastic or are you expressing you actually believe she is primarily in the one in the right on the topics in this video?

[@goodoldgrim]

@@D2_Papaya I think he's trying to mindread her. Like she is the way she is because she believes all her opinions are the obvious and indisputable truth. Which might be true - you need conviction to be THIS insufferable.

[@D2_Papaya]

@@goodoldgrim whatever it is, it saddens me.

[@kingcal52]

The patience this dude has is extraordinary

[@Blackatchaproduction]

he`s patient because that lunatic provides content

[@rossmanmagnus]

yeah that dude with girl's name destiny was so patient wow

[@CRWeaventure]

@@rossmanmagnuswatch it

[@krustykaid]

​@@rossmanmagnusSo he doesn't have any patience because you don't like his name?

[@helloneighbour2408]

it's a joke lighten up@@krustykaid

[@dyhidrogenmonoxide]

“You wouldn’t do that to a white person!!!” Some time later: “Hasan is white!!!” “You are racist” “your community is racist” “that’s racist” some time later: “I can’t tell you if [some hypothetical] is racist!!” (Gusano) “your definition is different!”

[@addoinatrum4339]

I noticed that I actually do some of the really annoying things Katee does when I argue with people. I'd like to think that's it's nowhere near the same degree, but definitely the same behaviours, It's extremely useful to be able to see it 3rd person like this, I've been able to catch myself doing it and turn it down a bit!

[@unwantedscrub]

Bro, I hate Katee so much. She's so smug while being intentionally obtuse, contrarian, or just flat out wrong about everything. Absolutely insufferable. Edit: I will never forget the time she was calling Vaush racist for him mildly criticizing black separatists, then for Destiny to open her stream revealing her bright pink dreadlocks lmao.

[@sebastianduenas7379]

she seemed nice in the begining and slowly started acting smug, it felt wierd listening to

[@unwantedscrub]

@@sebastianduenas7379 She does this every time.

[@Gloppieg]

The worst part is I don't think it's even intentional obtuseness. I think she is so bought in ideologically/social groupy that she doesn't realize how bad faith she is. Honestly kinda scary.

[@dip9995]

@@unwantedscrubWho is she?

[@hrs9018]

That little smug laugh she does over and over is insanely annoying

[@layedbackthomas]

Katee gives off the vibe of being unbearable even when talking about something you agree on. Kinda like an energy vampire lol.

[@Lupostehgreat]

Hardcore Colin Robinson vibes.

[@lizexox]

She would make a great energy vampire 😂

[@jasonthomas9319]

What did you agree on ?

[@Rain649]

She is so far of the mental deep end that in 3 sentences she goes from Hasan is a brown man and then said i think he is white.

[@KronosKore]

The way that she says everything through performatively gritted teeth as if she's being forced at gunpoint to come onto Destiny's stream and call him racist is some of the most unlikeable shit I've ever seen in my entire life

[@supreme84x]

It's sad that she's convinced herself she isn't racist. Kind of amazing how you can focus on someone's skin color and make judgements due to their skin color, and then follow it up by stating they are the ones not racist. Just wow.

[@fyngolnoldor4891]

As an Eastern European I cringe so hard when I hear Turks referred to as "brown". I've been to Turkey multiple times and I can tell you for a fact there are browner people in the South of Italy than there.

[@askimipika]

I'm gonna need Destiny to start putting trigger warnings for debates with insufferable people whose main hobby is sniffing their own farts.

[@untitled528]

She is literally the smug leftist stereotype

[@dranelemakol]

I think this is a good case for renaming it the "autistic leftist" stereotype

[@insensitive919]

She needs a yellow Tim Pool hat to complete the ensemble.

[@luthiencoffin]

Red hair and all.

[@habijjj]

​@insensitive919 I'd much rather have Tim pool in general he's pretty normal Katie is infuriating at every single moment in time.

[@sometimesitdobelikethatdoe]

The fucking hair and all like goddamn

[@Ink4Breakfast]

Her voice is annoying and she talks Forever to explain nothing. "Well actually, they do it for X, but i agree with you it isn't meaningful but it can have this 0.01% chance it does and that needs to be made known to everyone"

[@lith...]

Her laugh is what nightmares are made of. Such a condescending person.

[@Zinojn]

I didn't agree with a lot of what she said but I don't think she was intentionally being condescending. She did have some valid points regarding destiny's consistency around atheism.

[@mrman-yj3bn]

"my definition of racism uses racism to decide who can be racist" unironically.

[@PunkiBrooster]

White people cannot be harmed by racism in the way that people of color can. That does not mean that it doesn’t hurt your feelings or whatever, but at worst, being “racist” to a whites person amounts to bringing us down to a level which everyone else exists at normally. The removal of unearned privilege is not racism. Crying about it is pathetic.

[@mrman-yj3bn]

@@PunkiBrooster imagine saying I'm crying when your saying that everyone else is aa bigger victim than white people so it's OK when they complain but not white people. Also white people get insulted over race way more so really it's the other way around. When white people are racist it's just that they are acting the same as everyone else. Also id reccomend checking your time machine because your in the 2020s not the 1900s

[@whitecisgender4911]

aint that convenient

[@chickenporkadob0]

this is the reason why "racism" doesn't mean anything nowadays.

[@quietman208]

It’s actually really scary to me and I hope one day the definition of racism goes back to being the original meaning. This idea that only white people can be racist is lowkey dangerous.

[@chickenporkadob0]

@@quietman208 i agree. racism, all forms of phobia and ableism are just a word that's thrown around if you are cornered in an argument.

[@Noah-go8xc]

​@@quietman208 Imagine trying to explain to people that Black Supremacists exist in USA the same way White Supremacists do. Terry Crews said it best - "Black Lives Matter is morphing into 'Black Lives Better'"

[@domerame5913]

@@quietman208 this girl will say this being locked in her room while i know at least 3 white people irl that have been beat up / attempted murder / stalked by arabs for being non-arab

[@lorddreagus7253]

​@@chickenporkadob0 And so many other words like nazi, fascist, alt right, and supremacist.

[@thedomesticoperator]

The fact that she goes back to racism over and over again is driving me up the wall

[@bujotrys3236]

Bro she's trying to get you in a box and every time you get out she's like damn

[@frieza1131]

Katee does this thing in every conversation I’ve seen, where she says something rediculous, you respond with “wait, you just said this rediculous thing, is that what you really mean?”. Then knowing it makes her look bad she says “no, you misunderstood”. Then she proceeds to say something completely different than she said initially. Completely bad faith.

[@kidtruck9157]

The other manuver seemed to be Destiny-Asks a clarifying/simple question Her- "Sigh" Long pause..."Are you serious? We can't spend time on this. Let me change the subject."

[@bigdadybojangls9219]

Don’t forget about her Q. Which activates her “I’m autistic” shield

[@russki_dabb872]

Either she has Alzheimer’s or she is purposefully keeping track of what she is saying and telling Destiny “That’s not what I said, asshole.”

[@dlmsarge8329]

When she does that I think it's called the Mott and Bailey Fallacy.

[@silversalmon9909]

@@dlmsarge8329 kinda. If i remember correctly mott and bailey would be propping up a ridiculous or extreme argument with a more reasonable argument, so the reasonable statements support the ridiculous ones. Eg. "the j*ws control the world in a secret cabal organization" (ridiculous argument). "And this is evident by how many of them are in positions of power in the media (reasonable argument)." So a person may be sidetracked trying to argue whether or not they have media power, when they should instead focus on whether or not that even matters for the secret cabal organization that supposedly runs the world. Idk if she does this exactly, she seems more to want to simply rewrite what she says to be more favorable, discarding any shaky statements.

[@JeanMarcMichaudMusic]

This woman thinks its worst to treat Hassan like a terrorist because she believes Hassan looks like a terrorist😂

[@AcidelCyqage]

Leftist on Coke Confronts Destiny

[@Crusader-tg1wx]

I saw this comment right as she chugged the damn bottle… 🤣

[@awellculturedmanofanime1246]

​@@Crusader-tg1wx😂😂😂

[@mr.OldNews]

i'm more of a Dr. pepper fan myself.

[@tetrapharmakos8868]

Could Destiny please only argue with people who are articulate and intelligent? The real world is vexing enough.

[@DarthVirtus]

10:07 "probably because you have a lot of jewish friends" 50:39 "I didn't say that" 53:00 "when I say that I didn't say something it's because I'm very precise with my language"

[@Limud123]

She is literally antisemitic and a fifth column

[@jayc3596]

Stop engaging with this girl. She's deliberately obtuse and smug. It's so bad faith. Not worth anyone's time.

[@leahptp]

👍

[@Bfolx]

How is she wrong exactly? Destiny literally even admitted he'd be ok with christians converting everyone but not muslims and judges muslims off of extremists even though there are over a billion chill muslims, and it's ok to be anti-islam but not anti semitic even though most people consider anti semitism to be about the jewish religion

[@R-502]

​@@Bfolxcopy paste comment L

[@mgband]

@@Bfolx Nobody thinks anti-semitism is referring to Judaism. Anti-semitism, in the way we use it, would be closer to being ‘anti-Arab’ as a concept. ‘Islamabhobia’ refers to a fear or hate of Islam, the religion. I am actually not aware of a related term to ‘Islamabhobic’ for Judaism. Judaiophobic?

[@Kamfrenchie]

@@Bfolx he wouldn't be OK with it, he said he'd prefer one over the other. He doesn't judge muslims off of extremist, but of what they defend in terms of texts.

[@clifflynch4159]

The difference between listening to understand and listening to argue back. If the answer wasn't the gacha desired it wasn't retained for future questions, instead it was rephrased to get the answer they want again and again. Destiny kept it very classy when the other person was more interested in posturing, being snarky and dismissive while intentionally being intellectually dishonest the whole time

[@nikjkeenan2866]

I don't really know which option would be worse, her not understanding or willfully being ignorant to the really convincing takes.

[@Gitum]

You should write stream timestamps next to the quotes you write down. This way people can't keep wiggling out of their inconsistencies by claiming that you're putting words in their mouth, or misquoting them.

[@mitchellbrown2450]

Katee doesn’t even understand racism. Seriously cannot understand that making assumptions about someone based entirely on race is racist? Holy

[@scottsetzke7967]

Every leftist ever

[@deathpig.9847]

Racism is whatever is called racism at any given time.

[@MichealPacitto]

Oh they do understand it. They understand that they have changed the definition to not include racism. And only include marcist bullshit

[@silverhawkroman]

ofc she doesnt, she is israeli she probably never even seen a black person ever

[@SeptimusTSS]

well it's partially because modern academic theory actually doesn't define it like that. It is defined as a one-way street from oppressor to victim, like how cultural appropriation is from victim to oppressor. We really need to be fighting that definition itself

[@grandsaga]

That sheer confidence when she says, "It's because you're racist." Such arrogant condemnation certainly won't lead to the unjustified spilling of blood in literally every conflict ever.

[@Dubbadizzo86]

Right? These people think they're more moral than history's dictators, yet if they were in power...

[@jasonthomas9319]

She is on the autistic spectrum, and she clearly doesn't understand social norms or even a thing like racism. I'm no longer upset, I feel bad for her.

[@BL00DeMoN]

30:00 - if someone say "I'm Jewish from my mother's side" (no meter where in the world) they mean they are ethnically jewish - its like saying "I'm Irish form my mother's side" - if he says "I'm a religious Jew" or "I'm an orthodox Jew" then he is talking about his religion - like saying "I'm a catholic"

[@TheBteamairsoft]

This was actually worth watching because this is the typical lefty you’ll run into in the US. They say something, you repeat what they said, and they say no that’s not what I said. There is no room for nuance.

[@myriadcorp]

I like how people claim you are racist if you don't like radical Islamic extremist. Nothing racist about being against that ideology.

[@just_a_turtle_chad]

I'm against gusano ideology

[@TR13400]

​@@just_a_turtle_chad you're against having a brain

[@Micguy21]

That’s akin to saying “I’m against n word ideaology” you aren’t making a point you’re just being racist Get help

[@hrknesslovesu]

Also, if we're being completely honest, Hasan doesn't exactly look non-white. Bro weaponizes his Turkishness when its conventient.

[@gambigambigambi]

The left is afraid to criticize IsIam.... (Despite leftists being atheistic in nature)

[@Giblets0000]

This girl will leave absolutely no mark on the world. She’s the kind of zero that is rude to a cashier and then takes out her phone to record the reaction.

[@wudly9195]

She has to have some kind of cognitive impairment . There is no way she has a fully functioning frontal cortex .

[@Freemasonshair]

I hope she NEVER has any children and has no influence on the youth ever, In Shaa Allah.

[@TheLloydro]

No she’s actually a left wing streamer who politically frustrates you. Don’t project weirdo.

[@boxingdrama]

"Let me make it clear" 2hrs later we are still waiting for her to make a point.

[@stony1258]

I've known of Destiny for quite some years now, but just recently I've started binging his conversations & debates. I love the sensibility and objectivity that comes from him, and I find myself agreeing with nearly every single argument he makes. I am definitely a left-winger, although I have no problem with calling out leftists and conceding to rational stances that may be typically conservative. Because of this I typically feel politically homeless, so it's nice to see a community with likeminded folks.

[@Crabernacker]

No samee. I spent so long listening to people that hate destiny that when i actually started watching i could see they were dishonest

[@Matthew1J]

This is how it looks when someone who is very ignorant and not very bright decides they are a great moral arbiter who should preach to others. 🤦‍♂

[@ab-hx8qe]

What’s worrisome is the extreme arrogance coupled with Katees total lack of knowledge. She is the poster child of the dunning Kruger effect.

[@TommyGunz327]

Destiny has been looking that way more and more on a daily basis. This girl is what you describe as well.

[@trimmien2350]

Not sure which of the two women you’re describing here.

[@ONETimothy2.12-14]

I lmao when she fell apart just because destiny was writing down her arguments 16:50

[@Sinister_Steve]

Perfectly said.

[@StandedJ]

Destiny is actually masochistic. There's absolutely no way you'd willingly engage in another conversation with this person. SERIOUSLY, it has legitimately never gone well 😭 she's insufferable

[@Jaryism]

This very very young girl is MENTALLY ILL, after 2 hours I can assuredly say that. She's insane.

[@hollerh7346]

Apart from her existing as a woman what did she do or say that was insufforable?

[@jdgoesham5381]

@@hollerh7346 Ok, how about her saying you can't be racist to white ppl. The most dumb thing ever. Who cares if she's a lady. She's in a cult and it makes her STUPID.

[@YikesMb]

​@@hollerh7346holy bait

[@zebobm]

​@@hollerh7346I am 5mn in the video and she is already condescending

[@RoboTities]

This may be the worst bad faith engagement ive seen destiny have. At that really is saying something.

[@nanciatnyte]

This was my favorite Destiny stream so far.

[@D-Boy22]

How could you enjoy that? Are you a masochist or something? Holy heck XD

[@OneRedKraken]

She starts off saying Hassan is a brown person. And one hour in she says that she personally sees him as white? WTF? Katee is just a waste of time.

[@absurdandy4122]

To be fair Hasan doesn't know either it depends what context he needs his race to be during whatever side he is grifting to on Twitter.

[@OneRedKraken]

@@absurdandy4122 I think you're missing the point. I said that because she's arguing for something she doesn't actually believe. She kicks up all this dirt under the premise Destiny is being racist to Hassan (a brown person) and that he wouldn't do the same to white people. And half way through she acknowledges Hassan as white. If you can't see the contradictions in there, I don't know what else to say.

[@ataraxia7439]

I mean I don’t see those two things as necessarily contradictory

[@absurdandy4122]

@@OneRedKraken I don't disagree with you at all. I'm just joking about how Hasan also "doesn't know his race"

[@lionelmessisburner7393]

He is white. Only in America would he not be considered this. People are so dumb lol, people from the middle east can be white. Genetically people from the middle east are very similar to europeans. Thats why they look similar. And escpecially turkish people like hasan.@@absurdandy4122

[@_uncredited]

What a delightful young woman. Not sure about Katee, though.

[@farcenter]

Facts.

[@woolzem]

I unequivocally support women of color. Katee is a bigot

[@D-Boy22]

Dude, this girl thought that if she kept repeating the same defeated point over and over again, she might win after a while She just refuse to adress the easy question for 50 minutes straight

[@yournamehere6002]

She doesn't understand the luxury she has, living in Israel and condemning it, as opposed to a Muslim country.

[@drewmino7557]

This was the most insane conversation I’ve ever heard. This poor girl is too far gone. All she sees is race. All she cares about is race and all she talks about is race. She sees peoples inherent value based on race. This is the problem with the western world.

[@ancalyme]

She doesn't even "see" race. Turkish people are brown and Cubans are white to her lol

[@Dan16673]

she is a wealth off white liberal. its the default now

[@toneraum]

The mental diarrhoea… Jesus Christ

[@thor9323]

We call that racism

[@elizabeth84266]

I think the most insane part of it is that she said she can’t even define racism!!!! wtf 😂

[@ChaseFarrow]

I absolutely LOVE when people reference the Crusades without having any idea about what they actually were or why they happened. 😒

[@samuelschwammel5482]

Yea i think they have this conception that the crusades were a medieval equivalent of modern jihadism or some shit like that when they were in fact a response to the grand conquests the caliphate/caliphates made in the years before the crusades

[@marekfalk5369]

​@@samuelschwammel5482 The problem is they killed all nonchristians,atheist etc. Saying that crusades were a response is typical rightwing victimization/delusion.

[@marekfalk5369]

the crusaders were victims right? 😅

[@CEWIII9873]

They had it coming to them

[@off6848]

@@marekfalk5369 no they liberated victims but lived and died by the sword

[@garymcderp1146]

Don’t sniff glue and attempt to have a debate. It was painful listening to her

[@5kiann]

i love how she just smiles shouts and says '' we don't have the common language '' she literally dodges everything that goes against her agenda

[@itsonlyagame]

been born in Israel, been living my entire life here, 28 years old always been asking myself how is it that these type of people gets to represent Israel left prespective. I look at her, I hear her, Im trying to understand what is she trying to prove and honestly I get flashbacks from the unpopular, minority, super edgy kid at school

[@drearmouse9510]

And with a dash of autism. So unfortunate. -_-

[@sanc3375]

Because they don't want to understand the situation, they don't want to know the truth. They just want to oversimplify it, in a way that their own point of view is not altered.

[@theshirecrier-310]

שָׁלוֹםעֲלֵיכֶם

[@kingdodgearcane]

She doesn't represent the Israel left. The Israeli left are still pro Israel. How you can complain about her when you have Netty as a prime minister is beyond me

[@LoudWaffle]

She doesn't represent the Israeli left perspective, though? She's just a dime-a-dozen crazy person on the internet. When I think of Israeli left-wingers I think of organizations like B'Tselem or the protestors who took to the streets protest Netanyahu's insane judicial reform thing a few years ago.

[@whiteperson1742]

So this is a hasan fan makes sense now

[@skade245]

She is so incredibly obnoxious and dishonest it’s actually sad to see it. Reminds me of someone I was dating.

[@jimmylee9120]

I bet she is a non binary with pronouns in her bio 😭

[@jsalinas2068]

Her brain is working in power save mode

[@davenunyabusiness4893]

and she drinks Coke out of a 2 liter...

[@STOPTHECLOWNS581]

More like stand by mode

[@jonavuka]

no that shit is out of power

[@Zephy_Sky]

​@davenunyabusiness4893 ...i can't really fault her for that... but yeah! Everything else! She sucks!

[@toughguychumzee]

Just off the bat she’s calling Hasan brown+not white. Hasan used to call himself “white passing” but I’ve heard him refer to himself as a white guy full stop a few times the last couple weeks

[@DinggisKhaaniMagtaal]

He’ll be officially white when Turkey enters the EU lol

[@connellyboyle1]

She goes on later to say she thinks Hasan is white. Pretty much negating her entire point.

[@HRRRRRDRRRRR]

He's about as brown as Destiny's Cuban ass.

[@PunkiBrooster]

He identifies as white because he experiences life as a white man in America because people who don’t know any better perceive him as white. As far as I’m aware, Turks are closer to Europeans than Arabs, genetically But for people who DO know that he’s a Turk, caricaturizing him in certain stereotypical ways can, for obvious reasons, carry it’s fair share of implications which one might prescribe as racist/bigoted in nature. I don’t make the rules man, and I’m not the one trying to push the envelope out of boredom, or post-relationship re-invention or whatever

[@toughguychumzee]

@@PunkiBrooster kinda sold yourself out at the end there. People like to identify as whatever is advantageous for them at the moment. It’s why Nikki Haley larped as a white woman for 20 years and is now owning her ethnicity as an Indian woman

[@JenniferMoleski]

1:24:32 My _favorite_ part. She doesn't even know!!!! I think that summarizes the entire conversation.

[@gavinminty4974]

Destiny, when will you realize you’re on the side of the weirdos ?

[@1980rules]

This was nearly impossible to get through. Katee is one of the most insufferable people Destiny talks to.

[@retrograde126]

Destiny simps, she did make valid points at times.

[@user-er1fs3je4x]

I didn't know who she was but I am on your side now lmao. She literally can't remember her own point or destiny's point, constantly getting 'triggered' when her own words are repeated to her. What a crazy person, I hope she finds a way out of her confusion.

[@swordofcrystalis5969]

@@retrograde126which ones?

[@InfoDav]

@@swordofcrystalis5969 The ones about gay marriage in Israel. It's one of the few things she was right about.

[@stratocaster1986able]

*VOWSH has entered chat*

[@keithfilibeck2390]

The Dunning-Kruger effect has a physical Avatar in our world, and Destiny gets to debate it.

[@chris.s6768]

😂

[@johnd1047]

Then the gall to say “your rhetoric only makes sense to your unintelligent audience, etc etc” she is clinically insane.

[@paulphillips9252]

Katee debate 101: > Soypost > "That's not what I said!" > Soypost again > Pompous heavy sigh > "You're just evil it's okay, we'll never agree"

[@Joshywoshy1014]

Katee is what you get when you allow your kid to grow up thinking they're smarter than they really are. It's like she takes a side before thinking about it.

[@maxdibus]

She's insufferably smug as well. Truly an annoying person.

[@nikjkeenan2866]

The infuriating bit is that her entire people would have been massacred by islamists if they'd be thinking like her. How shielded she personally is from actual racism is the only thing enabling her for this deranged way of thinking.

[@Wisoo]

For someone who likes to say "you are smart enough to understand what I mean", she's surprisingly not understanding half of what Destiny means

[@zer0323]

That’s because she is invoking the hocus pocus of modern day racism definitions to claim that you can’t be racist against white people… if she has to go through the argumentation that racism =power+prejudice then she can’t plead the 5th when it comes to direct racism examples. She couldn’t call gussano a slur when destiny laid it out for her because her training demands that she look at who has the privilege in that culture to see if racism can even exist. It’s honestly a lefty trope that I forgot existed.

[@tiggerbane4325]

He’s asserting that she is lying and trying to purposefully misrepresent him.

[@BrendanishLeo]

@@tiggerbane4325 because she has laid out a statement, - "Destiny won't talk bad about a group because of reasons x,y, and z" - Destiny countered this assertion with proof that x,y, and z have never held him back in any other situation. - She continues to assert her original statement At this point in the conversation, there can only be one option. Either she is wrong (obviously she doesn't think she is), or destiny is lying, as he is openly stating she is wrong. There are no other possibilities, this isn't a spectrum, it's a binary.

[@conforzo]

Well, she did preface with her autism... And that can sometimes lead to a lack of understanding of context.

[@Aryzo]

i think its painfully obvious that she just lacks the life experience to make these fine societal assessments like "muslims tend to be more radical in their approach than jews" yet she wants to be included in the conversation. if youre sheltered your whole life and only experience the outside world via twitter, then ofc these statements would seem uncharitable

[@rhazesdark]

Listening to her trying to make a point is like having to sit through someone who obviously didn’t read the book do a book report…..

[@kileylyon308]

I rarely agree with Destiny's stances but the man has epic levels of patience when faced with someone that is crazy dumb thinking they are smart and this was a waste of his debating talents.

[@TheDissidius]

What a fucking draining conversation..

[@Sp00nz4hire]

Being anti semitic means hating Jewish people while being anti Islam is being against a religion. Why is she equating these two things under anti-theism?

[@missaliciaxxxx]

She's so dumb

[@MsKiprusoff]

Semtic people are technically Arabs and jews. To be antisemtic is to refer to the religion they practice. So she is correct, why only be Islamophobic?

[@MateoMPM]

​Because Islam Is the only one that's still unreasonably violent in today's world You can dislike Christianity, I do but you're sure that 99% or Christians will never hurt you if you insult the faith or make fun of Jesus The same with Mormons Hindus Buddhist All the Abrahamic religious are very violent ( Christianity Judaism Islam ) however you know very well than only one of them keeps being violent in modern times ​@@MsKiprusoff

[@reformedbroski8988]

@@MsKiprusoffBecause Semitism is deeply tied to ‘Jewishness’ (Race) as well as religion. When we think of Islamophobia we often think of someone being anti-Islamist (against Islam, the religion).

[@reformedbroski8988]

⁠@@MsKiprusoffSo he is Islamophobic because him being Islamophobic refers to his distaste of their religion, and not Arab people.

[@LividLobster]

I fucking can’t I watched the intro and I got brain damage

[@0v3rgr0wn]

The intro? All it took for me was her hair and face in the thumbnail.

[@just_a_turtle_chad]

Racists have brain damage so it makes sense

[@IsomerSoma]

I got brain cancer.

[@ezragoldberg3132]

I got a Stroke from seeing Katee's Pink dreads...

[@mofishin2648]

The girl calls Hasan brown but even Hasan calls himself white .. lol

[@justinwebber9968]

She just made a sweeping generalization about an entire country; not every Italian eats pizza. Italy has regional cuisines, each with its own unique dishes often rooted in local traditions.

[@megavide0]

1:14:55 // I can imagine *Katie Halper* (for example) with a Hamas head band. Why not?

[@josephrosenbaum3343]

How does a person with such strong anti-theist beliefs not understand the fact that you can hate all religion but hate some more than others for a variety of reasons.

[@jaykay2218]

Hating religions is stupid tbh

[@enlightenednormie242]

​@@jaykay2218nah, it's Based!

[@MobileNasty]

​@@jaykay2218 uh no, why?

[@llamacopter677]

​@@jaykay2218 average theoid

[@bazooka712]

​@@jaykay2218says the person having beliefs held as absolute truth, classic

[@justinwebber9968]

Kate, it's a basic play on words: Hasan Piker becomes Hamas Piker because of the similarity. It's like trying to teach algebra to a pet rock. If someone can't grasp this simple connection, it's either a severe cognitive deficit or a deliberate exercise in bad faith.

[@Anaught-tbrk08]

Cognitive deficiency and deliberate bad faith aren't mutually exclusive.

[@richardommundsen2417]

"B b b b but would you call a WHITE person Hamas Piker?!" Bro maybe if his name was Hans or some shit but its not funny to call Bad Bunny "Hamas Bunny" because the joke only works if its kind of similar to the word

[@hellsjamfleas]

It's progressive racism. Claim to be anti racist and be very performative but have the most race based judgemental opinions of others.

[@vorbo01]

Dog she knows full well it's not racist or wrong, but Hasan is on her team and more importantly, browner than her. Therefore he is exempt from criticism

[@robinthrush9672]

Same person that will call Cheech and Chong racist for the sumo wrestler character "Itchy-scratchy", but have no issues with someone using "Jack Mehoff". It is ONLY about defending the "underdog" regardless of what the millionaire, attractive dudebro says. He's Middle Eastern, it doesn't matter if he likes to skin live kittens in his basement.

[@avistel]

Might as well retitle this video "The dangers of long-term recreational ketamine use"

[@Navvi_]

Song?!?!🔥🔥🔥

[@farcenter]

She has the horrible passive aggressive, secretly mean elementary school teacher voice.

[@keithfilibeck2390]

its that "I've never been punched in my face for causing shit" archetype.

[@TimPortantno]

Easy question: "What is unique about the Jewish religion I should criticize?" She has no answer, because it's all virtue signaling

[@fetB]

I love how she tries so hard to be passive aggressively condescending, but it all drips of like water on a lotus plant

[@wizzenberry]

as someone on the right, im often extremely thankful we have destiny. his logical flow is much better than left peers

[@jimmylee9120]

Facts, but this one he's talking to is acctuly retar**d idk why anyone watches her, then again same people watch Hassan 😭

[@johnmorris8444]

How someone can be so ignorant and so condescending baffles me. If this character was written into a show that wasn’t a parody, it would take me out of it because I’d think to myself “no one is actually like this”.

[@tristenatorplaysgames6833]

People are actually like this. There genuinely are people like this and are quite numerous

[@keithfilibeck2390]

The Dunning-Kruger effect, she also thinks because she thinks she has Autism she's even smarter than her baseline perception of herself, to her, she's 3 times as smart as Destiny, and is so dumb/incompetent she has no ability to grasp the irony.

[@user-mi9ge5zo3j]

Illiberal leftists operate 100% on pure emotion with zero logic. I think she is a pretty accurate representation of all of them. They are broken and need to get into the gym.

[@d.r.643]

Did you ever play a game and meet someone who is objectively quite bad at the game and even lacks the skill to really appreciate how bad they are? This is basically those people if they picked online politics as their hobby instead.

[@user-mi9ge5zo3j]

@@d.r.643 lol so true

[@Jobe-13]

Katee is just something else. I can’t tell if she’s being willfully dumb like Kelly does all the time, or if she really does think all the things she tells Destiny.

[@LuridContent]

In Kelly's defense, she likes being irritating for the sake of it. She doesn't take "debates" seriously. Plus her rack is fine. Katee is irritating simply because she is just irritating and her points are dumb.

[@CalKon87]

@@LuridContent why does she look like the stereotype of that group. everything down to a minute detail. the content the expressions. like a virus

[@muzien87]

look up the term dupers delight. she gets off on being obtuse and contrarian and confusing. shes literally laughing at how stupid she is making herself sound because it confuses everyone and has everyone saying "WTF?" its all on purpose, she gets off on it.

[@LuridContent]

@@CalKon87 She who? Kelly's a standard body painting e-girl and Katee is a nut who guzzles two liter sodas and likes to cut her hair off on stream.

[@Gloppieg]

@@LuridContent I used to believe that Kelly was just trolling, but her diving into the trenches of EVERY reddit thread and clearly getting seriously upset made me realize it was just the "I was pretending to be retarded" meme

[@mastrtonberry2]

28:00 Does she have to do that in the middle of the stream?

[@dave93x]

How do people not realise that they're THIS condescending?! Seriously. It has to affect their lives a ton, it has to affect personal relationships.

[@tartarus1322]

It’s autism

[@watchdog163]

Hamas Piker is not a brown person. He is very much a white person.

[@farcenter]

Yup.

[@lazysod3]

In Hasan’s interview with that Houthi pirate, he called himself white.

[@LegiamasC-OnTwitta]

⁠@@lazysod3Hasan flips from white to Turk (as if many Turks, including himself, wouldn’t be considered white) depending on who he’s talking to.

[@DraconianMithril]

Turkey is a White European Country literally one of the main sources for modern European genetics.. Was it Byzantine Rome at one point?? Like nothin about Turkey or turkic peoples is unconnected to Europeans and they're ancestors

[@Signe0184]

@@DraconianMithril I'm so tired of this narrative that white people are pale people with blonde hair or light brown hair and blue/green eyes. I come from Balkan that was under the Ottoman Empire, other nations like Italy, Greece and Albania are also around, and men who look like Hasan are very typical where I used to live. And yes, they are white. So this "brown" nonsense is at least annoying. No, we are not brown or black, not that it matters either. Sorry I'm not Aryan and not white enough, jesus I thought we got over that shit.

[@itzahoax934]

Everytime he quotes her back correctly, she dodges it and tries to change what she means every single time. Holy crap the evasion tactics are abnoxious.

[@griggerykimothy4865]

Mr. Girl flashbacks

[@krishanpaul2]

he missed a comma so it's not exactly what she said.

[@CordaroBlu]

​@@krishanpaul2 Even worse she literally changed it when it got to the "you wouldn't do the same thing to a white person" and she literally changed it live.

[@erikkovacs3097]

​@@CordaroBluI feel like she is gas lighting. That is exactly what she said.

[@keithfilibeck2390]

@@erikkovacs3097 well she is a women, she argues like a women, complete with smug laughing

[@orochi235]

lmao the revelation at 53:08 or so and the flood of comments that follow