Google to ditch ChromeOS for Android!

[@TheFridayCheckout]

Correction: Blender for Windows on ARM was already released in Beta earlier this year already, not sure why my brain decided to think it was new this week. Get 60% off an annual Incogni plan here (sponsored): incogni.com/fridaycheckout

[@The_Nubian_Gamer]

Hi.

[@satyamdubey8294]

Can you look into your audio editing , s and c ending word sounds too sharp for ear

[@CZpersi]

EU citizens do not need Incogni. We have a thing called GDPR.

[@Gorion103]

On the Blender on WinARM subject. Qualcomm very recently joined Blenders Development Fund.

[@AffectionateLocomotive]

HUAWEI!

[@guncolony]

Android supporting Linux apps as the primary way to run desktop applications is unironically a MASSIVE win for the Linux ecosystem

[@jay-j6l]

Android is built onto of Linux kernel.

[@averydee5328]

@@jay-j6l Correct, Android runs on top of the Linux Kernel. It cannot run Linux apps without a lot of modifications. Just like how you can't run android apps on Linux without modifications.

[@randomname3566]

​@@jay-j6lthe kernel doesnt matter as much, the userland is completely incompatible with what you see on the "classic" linux based OS'es. Also android has A LOT of changes in the kernel that arent in the mainline afaik parts of the drivers can run in userland mode which is just not a thing in upstream.

[@dominikmuller8456]

Massive win for Android Tablets

[@guncolony]

@@dominikmuller8456 Yes, and think further. You will be able to connect your phone to an external screen and get access to actual desktop apps. Basically a supercharged Samsung DeX for any android phone. If developers want to get onboard with it, they'd develop for Linux.

[@tayzonday]

It’s like they expect to lose ChromeOS in an antitrust ruling 🤔

[@TheFridayCheckout]

Yeah I do think the legal issues are a part of this, though I doubt they would completely change their product strategy to something that they thought didn't make sense at all just to evade regulations that might or might not end up passing

[@jansix4287]

It’s an admission that ChromeOS is as dead as Windows Phone. Now Google must try to press their only viable OS into the multitasking PC form factor. And then scrap Chromebooks altogether after they failed.

[@zodiacfml]

It's the Chrome browser which is way more users than ChromeOS. I have always wanted Android on a laptop than ChromeOS but hard to do as it is only supported by open source developers.

[@MatarM0]

​@@jansix4287 They have a second chance now with Android/ChromeOS because of Snapdragon ARM CPU laptops. if they could do it before windows they could get some market share from both mac and windows laptops because even with snap elite chips, which are impressive on paper, windows for arm hold them back and I believe that what motivate them to do it RN

[@joeguard9621]

This seems like a fair point but I do feel this could be an opportunity as well. Given that ANDROID can integrate the PC experience of OFFICE, I'd happily switch over from WIN on my laptop as it won't let me authenticate or add numbers with messaging services, despite the SIM card.

[@dt855]

“Not a coherent long term strategy” has been Google’s motto for a while now

[@user-rs3lm1ci6n]

Google should have done this from the beginning.

[@yunleung2631]

Yeah seriously. They should've been competing against Windows

[@envynoir]

You mean the breaking up, right?

[@Space97.]

Fr 😂

[@anon3118]

Yep. We've been thinking this from day 1. ChromeOS sucked imo.

[@cryptocsguy9282]

Ikr 😂😂😂😂😂​@@anon3118

[@JBP4500]

It makes sense. Android has a better ecosystem and app library, where as ChromeOS is pretty much only a Chrome computer, and browsers are already pretty good on Android tablets.

[@jayjayare]

im pretty sure most android apps still wont work due to most chromebooks being incredibly underpowered

[@bradavon]

False. ChromeOS runs Android and Web apps. Which are often better than android apps. Also totally false, Chrome on ChromeOS is a complete desktop browser that's the same as Windows and MacOS. Chrome on android is much inferior.

[@serkandevel7828]

​@@jayjayare Chromebooks (starting 2016ish) which have the playstore preinstalled can run android apps. What prevents many apps from running there is not performance but architecture. Many app developers only compile them for arm but not x86 on which many chromebooks run on.

[@serkandevel7828]

​@@bradavon It's significantly harder to install apps outside the playstore like F-Droid on ChromeOS compared to Android (kinda like iOS but not as bad currently). And how is Chrome on android (other than addons which are nerfed anyways) that inferior compared to the desktop one? Not like they both share a codebase.

[@jayjayare]

@@serkandevel7828 I'm not saying they can't, I'm saying most are too underpowered to make use of most apps, but he's the architecture does play a big role

[@ml4319]

I am surprised Rabbit still exist, I can't imagine anyone using that piece of crap.

[@kipchickensout]

I thought it was well established more than months ago that it was just an overpriced scam that could've just been an android app - and a not so well working one at that, how it seemed

[@matanm]

That was the smoothest segue to a sponsor that I've ever seen.

[@isenewotheophilus6485]

Oh, you just discovered The Friday Checkout

[@BuggiEU]

Can't get over learning only recently how this word is spelled.

[@ctrl_x1770]

@@BuggiEU Segway just seems so intuitive... "segment" + "way".

[@travisdinham6084]

Everyday I see this comment on YT

[@tash_g]

@@ctrl_x1770 segway is that mall cop scooter looking thing right?

[@AZisk]

I admire how well integrated the integrations are on this channel

[@TheFridayCheckout]

Oh hello there :) I think having many small topics allows me to shuffle things around for great integrations

[@TheStageClear]

video quality as always really good, i especially like your little infobox on sponsorships and affiliations even if its almost always none

[@TheFridayCheckout]

glad to hear!

[@sajanpreetsingh9144]

yeah he started it only a fey months back as ppl were mad it looked like the segment was sponsored i believe it wasn't though so he started putting a little infobox now

[@kyb7795]

Microsoft: this is an Xbox (phone, handheld console, laptop,tablet) Also Microsoft: windows 365 link

[@deersakamoto2167]

Google should focus on releasing DeX not on creating more e-waste

[@serkandevel7828]

Google was busy patching out HDMI support on some Pixelphones

[@fablewalls]

@deersakamoto2167 - DeX is a Samsung product. Google would have to buy it to release it.

[@KawshikAhmed]

That what they are doing. It's will have more feature than DeX (according to AOSP codes so far) like support to run Linux apps, and all ChromeOS features.

[@deersakamoto2167]

I don't think they are though. Creating NEW "Android laptops" (hardware) is different from people using their *EXISTING* Android phone as a desktop machine (via software update). Basically having the Dex-like feature for EXISTING Android phones means no need for new hardware for many (but not all) people - whether this new Android laptops have "more features" or "Linux apps" is a separate issue because many don't need them to begin with.

[@KawshikAhmed]

​@@deersakamoto2167 You don't need to think anything just go to the AOSP Gerrit and see the code your self. The new Unified OS will be the Desktop Mode for Android Phones, Android tablets and for upcoming Android XR Headsets; and will be main UI for Android laptops. So, when you connect your stock Android phones to a monitor you will get same ChromeOS style Desktop Mode built on Android.

[@Kamion008]

It's literally the opposite of what should happen: we should have linux on phones (actual linux, not android with a vm on it), because you would be able to run android apps with waydroid and pc programs normally, instead of android on pcs, which will be so bad (practically every app does not support mouse and keyboard, no pc programs support except in a vm)

[@julian.torres]

if only linux on phones user experience was not awful.

[@UtkuDeniz123]

We cant have linux on phones, even the easiest linux to use (mint) sometimes needs some commands. And more than %99 of phone users are scared of 1 command. But linux on pc is actually good if you can use commands. I actually use debian on my pc rn.

[@NizaSiwale]

Linux will never rule the consumer space

[@videosenjoyer]

​@@NizaSiwale it doesnt need to dominate to be better tho

[@XxWarmancxX]

If only Linux wasn't snake oil for 99.999% of users. Linux is stupid complicated, And many people are insanely dumb.

[@himanshurajput523]

Android getting desktop level app support is very interesting for the future of portable computing

[@lesleyhaan116]

Finally the iPad has this for years now its about time app support on android tablets is so bad

[@llothar68]

@@lesleyhaan116 iPad is terrible for the same reason android is terrible for business, the security and app business model makes it impossible to create professional apps

[@vincentcjs]

happy Friday everyone 😁

[@panthera8286]

I hope that's good news for Android's desktop mode(s) and x86/Wine software.

[@KangJangkrik]

Android Studio on Android will be possible?

[@llothar68]

No. The security model of android makes it impossible

[@KangJangkrik]

@llothar68 confined app doesn't mean it's impossible. Even we can run heavy things like matlab on Android and Docker lol

[@MarioStoilov93]

I literally bought my sister a pixel 9 pro 5 days ago. When setting it up, I had to choose both default search engine and default browser, so I really don't know what's the problem?

[@nils2614]

I think in the EU it's already there to the DMA? But you're right, I don't know what the issue would be implementing it in the US as well.

[@MarioStoilov93]

@nils2614 well, I am in the EU so that makes sense

[@x-gamessimulator1067]

Android 6 or 7 introduced the "perfect apps" feature. This feature came about precisely because the European Union fined GO0GLE for abusing Android and not letting other browsers be default browsers!

[@ugh.idontwanna]

Android laptops sounds vastly more interesting than Chromebooks - at least for my use case. I could see myself picking one up if they aren't too complicated to de-google.

[@pfabiszewski]

3:12 You meant Crowdstrike probably :)

[@Winnetou17]

If you don't blink, you might be able to see the correction on the top right side sliding into view when he said that.

[@pfabiszewski]

@ :D

[@CZpersi]

I have been using Cosmo Communicator like a miniature Android laptop for years. And as far as I rememer, Android was was surprisingly good on netbooks already back in the "Asus EEE Transformer" era. Surprising number of PC games can be run on Android via emulators or direct source ports. The biggest hurdle is the tendency of current Android apps to omit or remove physical keyboard support or to not support larger screens. Another problem is that 95 percent of Office apps on Android are either subscription-based or require constant internet connection.

[@Lucas_Antar]

5:46 well that explains exactly why google is rushing to kill chrome for Android. They’re willing to divest chrome and keep android as a more decentralized platform. Which would be more decentralized and litigation proof than windows.

[@maximood-tired]

bin dicht und hab gar nichts gerafft aber deine auswahl ist immer top, danke für die Videos, man lernt immer dazu von außerhalb der normalen medien.

[@jansix4287]

Was du nicht verstanden hast, war auch nicht wichtig. 🚨👌

[@TheShawMustGoOn]

Google releasing an expensive touch screen laptop. Where have I heard this before? The pepperidge firm sure as hell remembers what happened last time with this line up xD

[@The-DO]

Google must split in 10 while Apple doesn't have to do sh*t. I really don't understand this

[@kevikiru]

One did backroom deals, the other treated everyone the same! Not really hard to understand.

[@kirby21-xz4rx]

​@@kevikiruyou thought you were intelligent with this one, (ps you weren't) and it doesn't matter, anti-trust is anti-trust and both companies have plenty 😅

[@JamesMcCloskey]

If Google had to sell Chrome, couldn't they just make a Brand New Web Browser based on Chromium, because it is fully Open Source? And call it anything but Chrome, like The "Google Browser"? 😮

[@gageabdul]

2:38 I caught the reference lol Haven't heard it in a while 😅

[@ClayMann]

I did my own little experiments with a Quest 3, virtual monitors and compared to a real monitor I had in front of me. Pixel peeping I came to the conclusion that Quest 3 screens are like looking at a 1080p monitor, the bigger you make the screen, the resolution starts to get real ugly for Windows type use. But for gaming 1080p in a big screen is just fine in racing games that seem to me to benefit most from a big ass screen. I prefer my ultrawide monitor for most gaming by far. but you can see we are just perhaps one generation away from VR headsets being very good monitor replacements. Vision Pro users seem to be very happy with their resolution and virtual screens Can't wait for Quest 4 or some other maker to have a pop at a Quest alternative with OLED for around 1K-1.5K? I'd buy that tomorrow.

[@koncinar]

Windows 365 allegedly supports 2 x 4K monitors. No way this will work, streaming such amount of pixels over the internet. Or am I missing something and this is not just a glorified RDP hardware?

[@panthera8286]

I wouldn't be surprised if it's one display at 60 Hz or two at 30 ...

[@Winnetou17]

It is a glorified RDP hardware. And 2 x 4K doesn't need THAT much. You can have good 1080p quality with 10 Mbit/s. 4K is 4 times the number of pixels of 1080p, so AT MOST it would need 40 MBit/s. I say at most, because video streming will be (of course) done using compression (probably AV1) and if the video is not very "busy" in the amount of small details, then the extra pixels won't add much when compressed. So 2x4K would be 80 Mbit/s. Let's round it to 100 Mbit/s and have them at 60 FPS. And no, doubling the framerate doesn't double the size, again, because of compression. Of course, if you have more, it will be better. But I wouldn't be surprised if it would actually be totally fine with 100 MBit/s. Because normal applications have a lot of spaces that are basic and simple. Like margins on a website or on a Word document, that gets compressed very easily. Or the background color of the Excel cells, those are easy to compress too, and also don't move much, so you might get it to look artifact-y only when you scroll, but look crystal clear when you're just typing stuff and 95% of the screen is static. The taskbar of the OS and the menu/top of the app(s) are also very static, so in reality it's like you have fewer number of pixels.

[@xali2008]

If Google want to sell laptops, they need to release a Linux Laptop with an open source Linux distro, match it with the new Snapdraox X Elite and great battery life it's going to be a win.

[@limo1795]

google: releases a version of andriod made for computers microsoft: that's the first competitor i've seen in a while

[@solanumtuberosa]

The rumors of selling chrome is becoming more likely with this change.

[@MrManguy17]

Pixel book being compared to "Macbook Pro, Dell XPS, Microsoft surface" sounds great.... but "Samsung Galaxy Chromebook" eeeh?

[@handlemonium]

Just *IMAGINE:* developers porting fully featured Windows-on-ARM desktop apps to Android Desktop.

[@asmodon]

I feel like people don’t know what „going all-in“ means anymore.

[@RickBeacham]

I'm not understanding how Google (Search, Cloud, Android, Chrome, Pixel, NPUs) should be broken up when Apple essentially does the same thing. Apple (Safari, Cloud, OSX, iOS, SOC, Macs, iWatch, iPhone etc) in which all of these devices require each other. I'm I confused or is there a big difference?

[@thetechrealist]

Yes there is a massive difference. Essentially, Google Chrome can be installed on all devices, while Safari can only be installed on Apple products. Globally, more people use Android & Windows devices

[@Jerdifier]

Apple is a luxury brand that pushes its ecosystem as a “lifestyle” via the brand loyalty of its customers, Google actively exploits their power to warp market conditions (by forcing standards that favour them via control of Chrome and Android and paying competitors to make Google their default search engine) and public perception (through using KZbin/Google to push all their other products, like Chrome and Android) in order to give themselves a near monopoly over web advertising (and a bunch of other products in the process). Yes, both of them have ecosystems (all the tech giants do nowadays), but Apple’s isn’t built on anti-competitive and monopolistic practices quite as much as Google (and is basically the only check on Google and Microsoft exploiting their near mobile/desktop OS monopolies more than they already do).

[@Snarkyafterthoughts]

I hope Google sticks with it. Mostly because it'll be designed around arm chips so it should get much better battery life then all the low end x86 chips in current Chromebooks.

[@kevikiru]

I don't know how people do not get this. Simply because two companies provide the same services/products, does not mean they are similar when it comes to the law when put in context. 1. Google made backroom deals to keep their Android flavour dominant over other AOSP types. Apple treats all their third party the same without making secret deals to lower costs or pay some of them to favour them over other platforms 2. Google forced third parties (Phone manufacturers) to not deal with fourth parties (Alternative stores/search engines/browsers) if they wanted to be able to get Google Apps. This is heavily frowned upon because it limits business even to people who are not doing business with you. 3. Apple puts their own OS on their own hardware, so the view of the law is that they are entitled some money for their risk taking and IP. Before you say that Google does too!.... Most of the Android phones sold are made by third parties, so the courts were not so happy that Google was the one restricting access to that hardware.

[@superiortoall22]

I think you have to realize how much more SaaS, IaaS, and Paas Google has, you just scratched the surface with what you listed. That's why you don't understand why Google is being broken up. It goes deeper than the services most people know.

[@coshvjicujmlqef6047]

F Microsoft for not putting windows on arm on the phone.

[@TheCodeTinkerer]

Microsoft Ignite is for the enterprise user, who RDP/SSH directly to a windows server/linux server and does their work on remote devices. Mac Mini have been used for the exact same purpose for over 10 years in a lot of consultant enterprises. Makes a lot of sense, if Microsoft expect, that the majority of developers in enterprise size corporations move to Azure, then there is really no need for a local device, if all is done remotely on a windows server workstation.

[@rosshalz]

it would be amazing if google also provides that android laptop OS as a desktop mode option on pixel phones! Probably wouldnt happen as it might cannibalize pixelbook sales, but one can hope :)

[@iulioh]

It would be cool to have a "shell" that is basically a keyboard, screen and battery for your phone

[@Space97.]

​@@iuliohdex is a thing

[@rosshalz]

@iulioh this exists! It's called a lapdock. You connect it to your phone with a usb c cable and that makes it a laptop , limited by the desktop experience of your phone. Samsung users are especially lucky here..

[@iulioh]

@@rosshalz oh wow, that's so cool they don't even cost THAT much and you can have 4k versions

[@rosshalz]

@iulioh yes! The only thing holding me back is that my pixel phone doesn't have a good desktop experience, that's why I REALLY want google to just chromeOS-ify their desktop experience 😇

[@sugarpatro]

Google goes all in for 3-4 years and then backs out. Let’s hope they don’t duck out on this.

[@anandrochlani5226]

Copied the name from Salesforce - Agentforce All the competitors of Salesforce joined the Microsoft copilot Agent.

[@Squaretable22]

Absolute game changer for the one person on the WhatsApp Group who seems incapable of texting and loves exercising their vocal chords

[@kompassorpigo7600]

I long for the day when we could have a true all-in-one that we could carry in our pocket. Something like that Huawei trifold (but much lighter) with an OS that works both on mobile (like modern Android) and desktop (like Chrome OS). It's exciting that both the manufacturer and Google are finally starting to move in that direction.

[@jonsmith6331]

Google is the worst company to attempt this. They give up on everything.

[@cern1999sb]

Something I just realised is that Android has a fixed upgrade support cycle, which means eventually this laptop will stop receiving updates. Perhaps custom roms like on Android phones can keep it going longer, or maybe you could just install full Linux on it, but this remains to be seen

[@SL4RK]

The under-screen camera in zte is really what's missing in most smartphones, although I'd prefer no front camera at all...

[@homebrewGT2]

I really hope this means Android desktop mode evolves into an actually usable thing. Continuum lives on!

[@DeathInTheSnow]

I wonder if this has anything to do with Google being forced to remove Chrome from its monopoly.

[@emptylog933]

Desktop friendly browsers on Android would actually be pretty great, by far the weakest point of Android x86 systems. Makes more sense to me just to fix the Android experience on desktop rather than run it in containers like Chrome OS and WayDroid. Chrome OS has also convenced more devs to build for x86 like they had during the early days of Android tablet support and I'm hoping that trend continues.

[@SL4RK]

1:19 God, I can't believe it, they'll probably make sure it's as bad as possible and doesn't work the way you expect it to.

[@anthonygotttheonly]

I really liked how creative the Google Pixel tab was, RIP Google Tablet once again

[@06howea1]

With arm chips becoming more popular and RISCv computing gaining traction it’s only a matter of time

[@ardas77]

yeah, akshually some kind of a dock for a phone with a big screen that turns the phone into a laptop or tablet might be fun. Honestly, the hardware they put in phones is totaly underutilized in 90% of cases.

[@_____alyptic]

Time to ditch fuschia aswell on their smart screen products

[@JoeCole_social]

if they nail that full desktop browser on Android, wow that would be a win. Android if a great OS for serious computing. Been using it for years as a web developer.

[@cesarkollenphowet]

I honestly back when they released the pixel book go and google slate that they were insanely cool looking

[@matthewshields]

Google doesn't need to sell anything. It should be forced to not enable its apps and services by default by making you pick between different 1st and 3rd apps and services when you set up a new devices.

[@adityashukla7849]

It's called bloatware. They got rid of bloatware after so long and now people want them to put bloatware back? Why? I have a better suggestion, people should buy a different device if they don't like Google...

[@matthewshields]

@adityashukla7849 no it's not bloatware to let people decide what they want to install and use as a default.

[@victoroaktree]

Finally Google is taking some action! It's long overdue... Hopefully this will improve the Dex experience in a way we don't need multiple devices

[@LegoWormNoah101]

And just like that, the line between laptop and tablet gets blurrier again

[@seink21]

I hope there will be desktop mode in every Android phone, with apps that are made for big screens without touch input.

[@wroot_lt]

People making too much fuss about W365 Link. This is just MS variant of thin terminal. For some reason many took it as a mini PC as Mac Mini. Of course, there is also one valid gripe. It is only W365 and no Azure Virtual Desktop support (at least for now).

[@torianjallen]

I use a Chromebook as my primary computer so if they go ahead with this, I think it could be interesting. I already use android apps for as alternatives to Linux and Chrome apps, but if they switched over to android altogether that would ease my concerns regarding the whole Chrome split from Google thing.

[@Zomonitan]

Now that we're getting really powerful ARM chips, and with Google desktopifying Android, I really want to see real desktop app support natively in Android. I honestly think we could start seeing AAA game releases on Android (possibly even MacOS some day) with minimal drawbacks. I mean, the switch is 7 years old running a chipset from 8 years ago, but it can still play real games, even if it's lower resolution and framerate. But look at what the Snapdragon 8 gen 3 could do, and the new gen is even better

[@bradavon]

Pixelnook wasn't the last Pixel laptop. There was also a Pixelbook Go.

[@ma-af3753]

Oh no...two separate choice screens on an Android phone! The horror!!!

[@TellurdogIsayhi]

I REALLY like the sound of this idea on paper, but I wonder what that’ll mean for hardware. Will we see more 15-16 inch devices running android; possibly 2 in 1’s? I love the samsung tab ultra, so if more OEMs offer 15 inch detachable tablet/laptops, that would be freaking AWESOME. Hopefully it would be able to encourage devs to craft better apps for big screen android devices.

[@C-J1S]

Will probably be better now, but HP tried it in 2014 with the Slatebook 14. I’ve never found any positive reviews for it as all reviewers recommended either getting a tablet or Chromebook instead.

[@dacramac3487]

The Echo Show 21 is not competing with the Apple 6" device. They have the Echo Show 5 for that; that and the Echo Show 8.

[@ZiggyMercury]

I like your "Friday Checkout" a lot, but have to make this comment: your transition to narrating ads are becoming more and more outrageous. Instead of being fair and telling (vocally) that we're now about to hear a "sponsored message" (AKA an advertisement), you tie it with a piece of "news" that probably wouldn't have made it to the video had it been unrelated to what your sponsor does, and all you do is put a little piece of text at the corner of the screen saying it's a sponsored message. You know it's wrong.

[@KelhamJack]

An AndroidOS being developed could mean better/more available desktop mode for phones plugging into displays like with DEX

[@El.Duder-ino]

It's about time! What took Google so long?! Many users asked for that merge for years. Chrome OS out of the box best feature always was to run containers of Debian Linux terminal and Android Google Play Store apps, which btw run very efficiently and with very little performance penalty. On the other hand developing Chrome OS Flex after that which was stripped of Android and Google Play Store was a step into wrong direction. Now seeing Chrome OS finally unified under Android with capability of running both touch and desktop UI is what was asked from Google for years! I just hope they'll execute it correctly and deliver something truly revolutionary worth every penny. Google should uniquely offer with all of their Pixel devices UI choice users prefer either as phone/foldable/tablet or as desktop with larger screen foldable/tablet + laptop or when connected to external screen. Hopefully Google won't screw it up and take the lead of this long anticipated feature which Apple was unwilling to further pursue because they rather prefer their devices locked in their OS environments and artificially differentiated/divided in different markets.

[@michaelcorcoran8768]

It's a bummer about the pixel tablet. I didn't know anyone and it was a flawed first generation product with the idea is really good. A tablet that is functional when you're not using it it's kind of perfect because tablets are one of those devices that sometimes seem like they're stuck in a drawer. I guess Amazon sort of does this as well. The problem is that they just didn't do a good enough job with the home smart nest version mode when it was docked.

[@zodiacfml]

A bit behind but they should. Apps are better supported/updated than browser versions. Developing the hardware would be trivial as it is simply reusing parts from a phone or tablet. However, price should be compelling e.g. just tiny bit above or the same as phone of the same internals with modem/mobile connectivity. Otherwise, a pricey Android laptop would be no different to Qualcomm's/microsoft laptop implementations but never took off.

[@lesath7883]

1:40 Google flip-flopping around with their prpjects? You must be joking :^)

[@donaldturnbull]

300 bucks for the device and a monthly subscription? 👎

[@RickBeacham]

For real! Lol. Might as well just buy a Intel 100 or cheap ARM device. Then use your browser to connect to MS365. I mean is Windows abandoning ARM?

[@florianbruehl]

Brother, its an enterprise product. The companies this is aimed at most likely already pay for ms365 for the office suite, intune and the likes.

[@AdvantestInc]

The idea of Android laptops could bridge the gap between mobile and desktop, but it raises questions about Google's strategy. Will this unify their platforms or create new fragmentation challenges? The comparisons to Surface and MacBook are interesting, there's a lot at stake here.

[@tdata545]

What was the Pixel Slate? Wasn't that Pixel Book 2? NO? I still have one floating around this house, somewhere. I totally forgot about. Even bought that over priced BRYDGE keyboard, which actually wasn't terrible, just pricey due to it being "DESIGNER" focused and the "Blessed by Google" keyboard.

[@lowkeygaming4716]

For me the android improvements towards laptops were also going to benefit tablets so I'm in for it.

[@KawshikAhmed]

The most probable cause is Google not releasing Pixel 2 next year because they will wait for the new Unified OS and release Pixel 3 (now Pixel 2) in 2027.

[@Michel-r6m]

No that strange idea. Got a Tab A9+ with Logitech keyboard and mouse and do about 90% of my surfing on this. For "serious" work I got a Ryzen5 Windows laptop.

[@NicoNicoNOOO]

Instead of selling it, leaving Android as an open source OS would be very interesting. Google already gives priority to its own Pixel skin of Android so making it do that any brand that uses it (but more realistically, mainly Samsung and Huawei) could add to the base of Android would be very interesting in terms of interoperability and how different from each other would each manufacturer’s version of Android become

[@LOC-Ness]

yeah i want independent chromium and android foundations

[@earthboiproductions2407]

Android is already open source, and manufacturers already do that…

[@x-gamessimulator1067]

Android is open source! Known as the AOSP project (Android Open-Surce Project). However, there are some things that aren't open, such as the Bootloader.

[@Mionwang]

Fun fact: Microsoft wanted to remove kernel access to antivirus and things like that ages ago but the EU (or something) denied it stating that it's anticompetitive.

[@18earendil]

The particular issue the EU had was that Microsoft wanted to remove antivirus access to antivirus other than Microsoft Defender.m while keeping MS Defender's access to the kernel. And I need to add for context that while MS Defender for Individuals is free, MS Defender for Business (and now MS Defender for Cloud) are abd were paid services.

[@RonaldChmara]

Microsoft wanted to remove kernel access for their competitors, while still keeping it *for their own products*. That's what was anti-competitive about it.

[@Mionwang]

@RonaldChmara ... You know that windows and core windows system would need kernel access anyway, right? The Microsoft product in concern is windows defender

[@azmah1999]

@@Mionwang Meaning that Windows defender would be the only effective antivirus software...? I'm sorry, but I don't understand what your point is. That it is not anti-competitive? That it is but that it is a sacrifice you are willing to make? Something else??????

[@RonaldChmara]

@@Mionwang Defender was part of the problem, yes. Paraphrased, the problem was/is like this: "Only Microsoft's anti-virus, mail server, mail clients, web server, web browser, office applications, hypervisors, networking, remote admin, games, (etc.), can get the fastest and deepest kernel integration, and any competitors get slower, more poorly supported, user-space APIs".

[@SpikeHead-Cactus]

Android after after10 is good enough that with few tweaks it can become a proper OS for main devices, with linux apps compatibility especially since alot of people want to ditch Windows.

[@ivanda64LPGames]

Samsung DeX is kinda cool :) some people use it instead of a PC, its easy fast and surprisingly its kinda easy and people don't struggle with it. Lets see in future :)

[@markusTegelane]

there go our hopes of desktop Linux getting widespread usage (yes, I know Android has the Linux kernel, but that doesn't matter if you can't run desktop Linux apps on it)

[@vedanshchn]

Welcome Google to 2016. RemixOS based on Android was excellent and I used it for years when I didn’t have a smartphone.

[@rajphotawala1017]

Google gives up on everything way too soon.

[@init_yeah]

Happy friday

[@SzaboB33]

First, front end frameworks become full stack frameworks, and now mobile OSes become desktop OSes.

[@BankruptGreek]

hopefully the move to android as a desktop will push flutter and dart, I kinda like it for front end and maybe, maybe, open source can push for Linux to run parallel to it for their arm versions. Think of Linux on arm with full android support but also many desktop level apps all coming from the android ecosystem, but also free and open source software

[@petethepete]

I guess Chrome OS with Steam support is just canceled.

[@TheGelatinousSnake]

How did we not get this before we got “Chrome Books”?

[@Wicked_Knight]

So what's the difference between what Google is doing with the chrome books and laptops like the Lenovo X13s ThinkPad that runs windows on an android Snapdragon CPU?

[@zeighy]

As long as they don't use the android version of Chrome... the chromeOS functions exactly like the website... Also, websites need to stop redirecting users to the mobile site, just because you're on Android and they render the mobile version of the website instead of displaying the full proper desktop website. It's the main reason I want chromeOS over android for a basic travel tablet.

[@Jerdifier]

I imagine Google would probably make optimizations to Android for use as a desktop environment if they’re planning on replacing ChromeOS with it. If they handle this correctly, they have a real shot at becoming the third major desktop OS, which could be huge, but only if this doesn’t crash and burn.

[@wiiiiiiihhj]

Google pixel for their smartphone, google laptop...for their laptop of course

[@kickskii]

Hey if this leads to actually usable/polishedish tablet experience I'm all for it

[@masudansari]

They should have gone this route since the beginning in place of the chrome os.

[@Microxxd]

i think the chrome break up is not a good idea google also contributes a lot to open source and if they sell chrome and android i know the other company will not hold those open source contributions

[@Ajay-kz9ns]

that's a sneaky way to transition to an ad.

[@cartilagehead]

Microsoft putting more Windows integration into the Meta Quest feels like a bit of a cruel joke after how much fanfare they made about Microsoft VR and HoloLens last decade. Reminds me of those Android devices they farted out a couple of years ago and then immediately pretended didn’t exist.

[@goodtoshi]

I'm not sure if Android laptops will succeed, but ChromeOS going away is definitely a win for humanity. This thing basically mocks the idea of a computer and promotes tech illiteracy

[@aussiegruber86]

I use chromeOS 50% of the time and I find it not really that bad, especially how it has Linux built in.