Learn which Sundance HOT TUB SERIES IS PERFECT for you!

Learn which Sundance HOT TUB SERIES IS PERFECT for you!

[@sleepwalkinpyro]

Love the pitch! Nick from SAS in Reno.

[@epic-playlists]

Great channel! I really appreciate it how much information and personality you bring it for your clients (and everyone else!)

[@atlantahottubcenter]

Good afternoon, thank you so much for the kind words! Much appreciated

[@jeffwertz2953]

I bought a Hot Spring Envoy, but man I gotta say... I love the 980 series built in sundeck / ice chests idea. That is awesome! Thanks Brian for the tour.

[@atlantahottubcenter]

Good afternoon, I hope you enjoy your new hot tub! Thanks for watching and for the kind words!!

[@fallofmanbrand]

amazing video

[@anthonysalducco917]

LOVE THE VIDEO! Thank you for the information. I have 2 questions. If the 880 series has a 1 piece seemless cabinet, how is it accessed for service, is there an access door? Also is the excess heat from the filter pump transferred to the water to save on electric by not running the heaters as much?

[@atlantahottubcenter]

Anthony Salducco Good afternoon! Yes, the corners each snap off and the front panel comes off as it sits on a hook system. You just slide to door up and pull out toward you

[@atlantahottubcenter]

Anthony Salducco All motors for hot tubs will transfer some heat down the shaft into the water due to friction. However, you don’t want your motor to overheat as this will significantly damage the longevity of the motor. It’s important to make sure that the motor in your hot tub can breathe. There are some old systems that used a special wet end to transfer the heat from the motor into the water. They where actually using this instead of a heater. This wasn’t an efficient way to heat the spa so they no longer use this method. I would focus more on insulation as that’s really what’s going to hold the heat in and keep your electrical bill down

[@dareckharris3729]

Dude, you just changed my mind from buying a Costco hot tub. Ty

[@Bipbop66]

Not sure yet what Hot Tub I will be purchasing? But Sundance has moved up real fast on my research priority list. I have to say that after watching a ton of videos about hot tubs, this guy is the most consistent and thorough knowledgeable person representing this brand. If it really a brand to consider as I am now reconsidering now in having a 220 volt connection installed, even though I live in South Florida, some of these models may only work with that type of electrical connection. I like so many of these aspects, (UV bulb & Fluid X jetting system, tub construction with self supporting hull, and friendly access to parts). Awesome video . Takes it to the next level.

[@scubatom8232]

I will look at Hot Springs, and Sundance this week. It will mostly be myself using it, until grandkids visit. I want a lot of room for feet. Hot Springs is in town, Sundance is 1 hour away.

[@atlantahottubcenter]

Good afternoon, you’re looking at two great brands! My biggest suggestion would be to wet test both. This will give you a good feel of the different jetting systems. Also, I would make sure to sit in the particular series that your potential model your buying falls into dry. The hot doesn’t get any more comfortable with water in it! You’re going to get the most leg and foot room from a non-lounge model. The lounge in the hot tub takes a lot space in the foot well. Good luck!Hope this helps!

[@scubatom8232]

@@atlantahottubcenter Thanks! They also The Jacuzzi brand. I will go out looking tomorrow. I mainly like hot water, The Jets are not that important to me. I don't mind paying for one that will last many years.

[@atlantahottubcenter]

@@scubatom8232 Good morning, if jets aren’t important to you than you might want to look into a lower series. If your more focused on longevity, you can go down in series within those brands. I would consider 24hr circulation which we have some videos on. This can be important to maintenance and not all series within those brands will have it. Hope this helps!

[@toddgiroud2343]

Hey Brian on the optima 880 series if there is no seams in the cabinet, how do you get to the pumps or motor to Do maintenance

[@atlantahottubcenter]

Good morning! Yes, the corners each snap off and the front panel comes off as it sits on a hook system. You just slide to door up and pull out toward you

[@atlantahottubcenter]

Good morning, the automatic oxidizer you see under the Splash series hot tubs is just a fancy way of saying it has an ozone system. However, the ozone system is only working when water is pushed through a venturi creating a suction. Splash series tubs don’t have 24 hour circulation so only when your in a filter cycle will you create ozone. Thanks and hope this helps!

[@JeremyJamesDec15]

Can I get an in-depth review of the Kingston also showing the panel off with the pumps and everything.

[@atlantahottubcenter]

I will launch a video on the 980 series in a few days. It's on the list! Thanks

[@Simply_GenX]

Hey Brian... I noticed that the Kingston 980 model comes with 3 pumps instead of 2 which means if you have all 3 pumps on, you can't use the heater at the same time. How much of an issue do you see this being? If you have 4-5 people in the tub, you're likely to want to have all the pumps on at the same time but then start seeing the temperature decline.

[@atlantahottubcenter]

Good evening, thanks for watching. A few things to consider, starting with insulation value. You would have to do the math which is the area of the insulated area times temperature difference divided by heat loss equals R value. The lowest I have seen after doing the math and research is full foam insulated system. This insulation also doesn’t really lose its R value over time unlike a lot of other insulations. This insulation retains 98% to 99% of its R value. Sundance and a select few other hot tub manufacturers and brands use this insulation method as well. What this means for you is the hot tub is really retaining heat which is very important in this scenario and quite frankly in general Second thing to consider, is the fact that the hot tub has three jet pumps that are all giving off some form of heat due to the friction the motor is giving off when running - this can help to keep the temperature up. Now, this isn’t going to make a great deal of difference but it does help. Lastly, I haven’t had any complaints here in Georgia. However, if you’re in a state with a colder climate you might want to consider the R value. I would also mention that if you live in a state with colder climates you can always set the temperature a couple degrees warmer before you use it to keep yourself comfortable during use as it declines slightly in temperature. Hope this helps!

[@Simply_GenX]

@@atlantahottubcenter awesome feedback. Thanks so much.

[@automech01]

@Brian Did they discontinue the lid cover seat option? My salesperson said that this option was discontinued and now it's only a cover not for sitting on.

[@atlantahottubcenter]

Good morning, I will look into this but as far as I know the filter lid is still reinforced and we're ordering those pads and giving them to customers accordingly. First I've heard of this so I am going to say that's incorrect but I'll double check and circle back. Hope this helps!

[@automech01]

@@atlantahottubcenter yes please I just bought a Marin 880 and my dealer said sundance is not offering pads due to the lids being used as a drink holder only. I would like this to be used as a cool off seat as well. Please advise.

[@mordyvontessimus6403]

Ken Dixon should hire this guy for training videos.

[@Simply_GenX]

If you had to choose between the Optima 880 or Kingston 980, which would you choose and why? Really struggling between these two rubs.

[@atlantahottubcenter]

There’s really only three key differences between the 880 series and 980 series. First, the low profile which makes it easy to get in and out. Second, the sun deck. The sun deck is a place to get out and sit on to cool off yet it’s still part of the hot tub and experience. Third, the self draining coolers which are located under the sun deck. You’re paying a premium for these key features. If these features don’t interest you I personally wouldn’t spring for the extra cash. Most Important, sit in both of these series dry. They sit very different. The 980 series sits a little more straight up. The hot tub won’t get any more comfortable with water in it. Hope this helps

[@Simply_GenX]

@@atlantahottubcenter it’s too bad I’m located in Toronto, otherwise I would have given you my business hands down. Definitely going to take your advice to sit in both as I also noticed the Optima has a more contoured seat while the Kingston is a bit wider. May come down to comfort but I do love that sun deck. Thanks again!

[@littlemanbb7330]

Hey Brian,Comparing to a Master Spa? What type of parts does Sundance use? Are they proprietary? Do they clamp and glue? Master Spa is really selling having OEM parts which does make sense. Thanks..

[@atlantahottubcenter]

Littlemanb B All hot tub parts nowadays are proprietary for the most part. They use an proprietary logic chip on their circuit boards and topsides. All hot tub manufacturers for the most part are using some form of proprietary parts. Don’t let them fool you. We work on Master all the time

[@atlantahottubcenter]

Littlemanb B When picking between Sundance and Master pick the one that fits you and your family the best

[@littlemanbb7330]

@@atlantahottubcenter So Master is.using proprietary parts as well? I guess they tried to fool me! I don’t like that! Thanks..I’ll look into that more.

[@grcerosa]

Great job as always. Hey, can someone buy a hot tub from you and have it shipped to where they are in another state? Or is that too cost prohibited with shipping?

[@atlantahottubcenter]

Good morning, depends what state you live in but usually if there's a local dealer in your state we suggest purchasing from them due to logistics and service. Hope this helps!

[@foxriverat]

Thank you for all the great information Brian. I am trying to decide between the Montclair and the Chelsee in the 780 series. Our dealer here in Illinois does not have either filled for a wet test. We are a family of 3 and could get by with the smaller montclair but there is only a $725 price difference between the two. I do a lot of road cycling and waterskiing. Very active 61 year old. Which one would you recommend as far as powerful massaging for legs and lower back. Thank you.

[@atlantahottubcenter]

Good afternoon, they’re both great choices. Does your dealer have them both on the floor dry without water? I would sit in them both dry. They won’t get any more comfortable with water in them. I would also take your height into consideration. The Chelsee does sit lower than the Montclair. I would also consider whether or not you want a lounge. The lounge takes up space but offers extra leg jetting. On the other hand the Chelsee offers the foot dome so everyone sitting in the hot tub gets a foot massage. The foot dome also gives everyone a place to put their feet. This avoids everyone playing footsie. Either way I’m sure you’ll be happy. Thanks for watching. Hope this helps!

[@foxriverat]

Thanks Brian. We dry tested both and ended up going with the Chelsee. Now just have to be patient till November

[@841577]

Why is the rotomold tub only a 6-10 year unit? What wears out on it so quickly? Is it the plastic shell or just the individual mechanical components?

[@atlantahottubcenter]

Good morning, normally what happens is at some point the repairs start to out weight the value of the hot tub and at that point it's always best to replace it in my opinion. From what we've experienced this is normally somewhere between 8-10 years if maintained properly. Hope this helps. Thanks for watching!

[@imenotyouimenotyou4253]

Love the 980 but $28000 is crazy

[@atlantahottubcenter]

Good afternoon, depends where and who your buying it from because logistics can change the price significantly. Also, depends on what the dealer is offering you and what features you chose. We don’t personally sell it for that but our logistics and such are pretty good. That is the msrp though! Hope this helps!

[@emmybrown9293]

Thermospas are made by Sundance but don’t use a foam insulation system? Why don’t think use it? The warranty is good with 20yrs on the shell and 10yrs on the parts. Wondering if I should have considered Sundance now?

[@atlantahottubcenter]

Good afternoon, I think there’s some confusion here. Sundance, Jacuzzi, ThermoSpas, Dimension One, Swim Life, HydroPool, and other brands are all owned by Investindustrial. Nottingham-Spark is an innovation firm and also owns a percentage of the umbrella. The umbrella is quite large. All of these hot tub brands under the umbrella are very different and serve different purposes. I would urge you to look at many brands before making a decision on what’s best for you and your family. If you think ThermoSpas serves the purpose of why your buying a hot tub, then enjoy! Hope this helps!

[@MaN-pw1bn]

How do you access the pumps in the 880 series since it's seamless???

[@atlantahottubcenter]

Good afternoon, each corner pulls off from the bottom. They're on clips. Once you pull the two front corners off, the front panel sits on hooks so you just lift it up toward the shell and pull out toward you. Set the front panel off to the side and you'll see all your electronics and components. Hope this helps!

[@MaN-pw1bn]

@@atlantahottubcenter Thanks so much!!!

[@atlantahottubcenter]

@@MaN-pw1bn Good evening, you’re very welcome!

[@atlantahottubcenter]

@@MaN-pw1bn You're very welcome. Thanks for watching!

[@automech01]

Do all 880's come standard with Sun Smart wifi?

[@atlantahottubcenter]

Good evening, unfortunately they don’t. Every dealer is different and how they handle SunSmart and SmartTub is different. I would refer to your dealer. We include a SunSmart or SmartTub with every hot tub. Hope this helps!

[@automech01]

@@atlantahottubcenter yes thanks

[@n-da-bunka2650]

Keep in mind that the rocket scientist did NOT develop the horizontal filter system. Looks like the 880 series ALSO has a cooler with ICE in it, right?

[@atlantahottubcenter]

Good afternoon, The Sundance engineering team utilized their expertise to create a horizontal filtration system for their hot tubs. The Fluidix jetting was outsourced to provide lifetime jets without any moving parts. They aimed to ensure longevity and hydrotherapeutic benefits for their customers. It's a common problem for hot tub owners to replace their jets everyone 5 years or so, but Sundance has solved this inconvenience. On top of that, their 880 series boasts an ice tray, cupholder, and a seat all in one, while the 980 series offers coolers. This additional convenience is sure to elevate the hot tub experience. Hope this helps!

[@JeremysRants]

Spas are basically cars. Why even try to get a decent one when they're rediculously marked up.

[@atlantahottubcenter]

Good evening, it’s not the mark-up from your dealer for the most part. All dealers are different of course but pricing is still regulated some by the manufacturers. Well built hot tubs are expensive from the factory due to materials and craftsmanship. You can always check out certified pre-owned. This is a great bang for the buck. I would suggest this option depending on what you value. You’re right though, they can get expensive especially when you get to self supporting shell hot tubs. Hope this helps!.

[@JeremysRants]

@@atlantahottubcenter thx, I was looking at the splash series as they have a service dealer 30 mins away from me. We might be moving by the time 8+ years comes round as well.

[@atlantahottubcenter]

@@JeremysRants The Splash series are good hot tubs. The Splash series tubs have full foam insulation and Balboa electronics which is good stuff. The hydrotherapy is reasonable and the longevity is about 10 years from we’ve seen. Depending on what you value this might be just perfect for you. We haven’t had any negative feedback from the product. However, we’re pretty up front about what it offers so no surprises! Hope this helps!

[@JeremysRants]

@@atlantahottubcenter that helps at least. Are all splash series 220 or 120?

[@atlantahottubcenter]

@@JeremysRants Good morning, they’re convertible which means they can be 115v or 220v. I always suggest 220v. I think it’s important that the jets and heater work at the same time to maintain the water temperature in the hot tub. They only both work on 220v. Also, it heats 2-3 times faster on 220v and quiet frankly it’s more efficient on 220v. Hope this helps!

[@remaleyjt]

Wish I lived in ATL. My dealer isn't as informative.

[@atlantahottubcenter]

remaleyjt Good afternoon! If I can help you please let me know. I’m more than happy to answer any questions you may have

[@remaleyjt]

@@atlantahottubcenter Brian. My biggest concern is pricing. The Altimar is $1,150 more than yours and then an additional ala carte menu of stairs($200) cover, cover lift ($200) delivery ($300) or delivery w/set up ($500). That's what's frustrating. I know I want it, but at a cost of almost $2,400 more is hard to swallow

[@atlantahottubcenter]

remaleyjt prices are different in different places. We also had a increase so that video needs to be replaced. Price of Acrylic has gone up

[@mordyvontessimus6403]

lol I love the guy in this video, and I'm a dealer myself..

[@User_.54321_dan]

Hi Brain, I purchased a new Sundance Edison in April 2022. We live in NC and this summer was warmer then most and temperatures on tub got to 105 to 106 when temp was set to 98. I contacted my dealer I purchased from and after multiple conversations and pictures of issues they replaced thermostat because it was not reading water correct temp. Water was 105 and lights would blink red until I left cover off for a while and run pumps. After replacing thermostat water temp were matching tub reading. I had a hot tub in upstate NY for more then 15 years and have only had 1 to 2 degree difference when outside temp would be 90 +. Know temp. Match hot tub raises 4 to 5 degrees and makes it hard to adjust temp to use tub. Dealer told me to prop tub cover open and it was the pumps causing the heat transfer. I am mechanical and I do not believe this is the cause and they said that's all they could do because that's what Sundance has told them. If there is any help you can give to make this tub work better it would be greatly appreciated. Plase contact me with any guestion to help me or is there any contact no. for Sundance I can call to help me figure this out. I know there are hot tubs all over the state with warmer temp. then NC and I can't believe they can not use their hot tubs all summer. Thank you in advance for any help you can give, Dan

[@atlantahottubcenter]

Good afternoon, there are settings you can set to help keep the water cooler. Please watch the video in the link below. This will help you to maintain it a little cooler. You need to set it into economy for starters. Hope this helps! kzbin.info/www/bejne/jmavmpqrjrl8bZo

[@atlantahottubcenter]

Good morning, you can also call me to discuss further if you would like. Hope this helps!