Leftist Uses TikTok Gotcha To Debate Destiny And It Backfires Badly

[@destiny]

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[@IstandwithIsrael236]

3:55:07 he said October 6th

[@IstandwithIsrael236]

4:04:13 unironically uses Al Jazeera map claims it isn't propaganda

[@IstandwithIsrael236]

4:13:50 it was 132 CE (after bar kochbah lost his revolt they expelled most of the Jews)

[@IstandwithIsrael236]

4:15:25 specifically the dreyfus affair

[@IstandwithIsrael236]

4:23:30 yea jews are banned from praying there (but that isn't what he is talking about)(also there were two temples and even the Arabs in 1924 admitted that it was in fact the site of both temples)(temple mount)

[@bryanchu5379]

this guy was just bizarre to me lol. so smug and condescending in one moment and then in the next he's like "Destiny you clearly know way more about this than me, can you walk me through your position step by step so I understand it? I just wanna be educated" and I really believe he's genuine lol. the whiplash is crazy

[@hobbyl0s]

bipolar maybe?

[@billyhates]

Cognitive dissonance in real time. It's not a mental disorder to have your world view challenged and feel like you are obviously correct (smug) and the opposite (genuinely curious) is true as well.

[@howdareyou41]

while smoking a cigarette like he learned how from a cool guy in some movie. this guy doesn't give a fuck about genocide unless it's white people doing it/trying to stop it.

[@ryanb3721]

no he’s just trying to be manipulative

[@LarkSist]

@@hobbyl0s No, bipolar pertains to moods and emotions and the polarity is up and down, depression/despair-euphoria/ecstasy. This is more of a Sméagol- Gollum kind of situation.

[@radred609]

God it's funny seeing dentiny sticking to the whole "I'm going to start calling people out and just asking them pointed questions to prove that they don't know what they claim they know." 'cause it immediately and repeatedly paid off in this conversation.

[@tm5123]

Its funny how he basically put that into practice right away, I guess nobody told Paul 🤣

[@Slava_Ukraini1991]

If the guy didnt do the "I rEaD aLl ThE BoOkS" thing he would have come off as way less of an idiot. I love how he immediately got called out on that shit.

[@tomtommerson6320]

​@@tm5123He didn't read the destiny patch notes

[@tm5123]

@@tomtommerson6320 It was a pretty big update to be fair. 😆

[@______Daniel]

What drives me crazy the most is when this guy talks about a single state with equal rights for Jews and Arabs….it already exists- it’s called Israel.

[@wilddynamine8017]

“Because I’ve read Marx, I’m supposed to tell you exactly how capitalism oppresses the workers?”

[@Zeffpenguin]

"I'm supposed to be able to tell you what political ideology he prescribes to?"

[@TyrianHaze]

"Because I read extensive history books, I am supposed to tell you about history?"

[@Metaphix]

I'm a "labor guy" and I've read all the philosophy. Also no I have no idea what labor theory of value is.

[@Localpref416]

" I wish we could talk about the history without ya know being so historical" -or something close to that(heard it live)

[@austinpowers1061]

"Because I went to school, im supposed to tell you what 2 + 2 is?"

[@nickchivers9029]

"Because I've read Harry Potter, I'm supposed to explain to you how quidditch works" - said dumbledore calmly.

[@OliveOath]

Flawless comment

[@0redfr0g0]

Not gonna lie. Even if you've read the Harry Potter books, quidditch is so confusing that it would be difficult to explain. Why even have goals and other team members when the game only ends with the golden snitch? In passing i think they say games theoretically could last forever if the snitch is never caught. Now the real question, why is wizard chess just normal chess?

[@nikodemasgircys7252]

@@0redfr0g0 Because the snitch gives you alot of points, but doesnt win the match. For example, im pretty sure it gives 150 points, so if the score is 30-185, the team with 30 points wants NOT to get the snitch until they are less than 150 points behind. The snitch is also hard to catch, making the games last long.

[@bulldozer8950]

In fairness, I’ve read the whole series multiple times (admittedly not in years) and I couldn’t tell you exactly how quidditch works. Like they fly on the brooms, and harry gets the golden snitch, but the rest I couldn’t tell you. I think the even closer thing would be “oh I’ve read Harry Potter I’m supposed to tell you why a muggle is?” Like the very simplest thing you should’ve gotten out of the book

[@willtheprodigy3819]

What specifically was Paul wrong about? There is obviously a genocide going on.

[@daniellagrou1078]

This dude lived everywhere, knew everyone and learned nothing.

[@japhalpha]

Classic

[@baka-oni8358]

he was raised by like 10 different families in 10 different cities and time periods

[@FutureFoliageFF]

As an old DP fan I was confused because Paul has said his parents were liberal blue collar unionists who lived in South California, and he had a pool.

[@Lordsebastian101]

@@FutureFoliageFF pool and horses on a massive plot of land

[@FutureFoliageFF]

@@Lordsebastian101 he is becoming Brett Keane

[@_Xyrex_]

I’m 2 hours in …. Steven should be given a medal for his patience with this guy. He can’t stand not hearing his own voice for 20 seconds straight.

[@davidjohnson5557]

Not even 2 hours in, but looking forward to the second half

[@brewbush]

I am going to rename him to the Anecdotal Atheist

[@_Xyrex_]

@@brewbush lol, I like it

[@ProperlyGaming]

This convo really shows hownfar destiny has come when it comes to debates and convos with people he heavily disagrees with. Mid to late 2010's destiny wouldve verbally hammered this dude over the head due to just how smug he was being.

[@Kefka2010]

It got so much worse at the 3 hour point

[@txync]

Confidently and prouldy uninformed plus strong opinions plus maximum smugness plus strategic glaze deployment. Great content.

[@W00KER]

If this tease intro was any indication, this ought to be good.

[@rockstar450]

Strategic glaze employment?

[@bigdadybojangls9219]

@@rockstar450starting the conversation off by giga glazing destiny before attempting to critique him

[@SortaFresh]

And then whenever he was called out for being wrong he would play the “please educate me I’m so helpless” card. Like that only works for so long then it becomes a lecture and what else do you add to the conversation aside from your smug insults and backtracking? Dude was a trip lol

[@stakahz4513]

As soon as it starts to get a little heated, he reels Destiny right back in with a slight suck fest and apology to come across as a little less unhinged. Genius.

[@friendlypup5650]

“I’ve read every Stephan King book” was that supposed to be a flex?

[@hadror13]

Translates : "I am well immersed in fantasy "

[@samhenr2392]

~"I was almost recruited into advertising"

[@howdareyou41]

I mean I could've guessed that based on everything about him but whatever. He's one of those guys who thinks reading fiction makes you smart.

[@Kryto_Gaming]

He's lost and grasping for straws. If they were debating how to write fiction or storytelling then there'd be a point to that lmao, but his brain blue screened into a generic books read = good.

[@sutulj]

Considering most people only debiting this stuff hardly read "a" book... Maybe in those circles it's a flex?!😅

[@ian7365]

Destiny was suprisingly patient with Paul, I feel like on a different day this could have been a bloodbath.

[@sutulj]

I thought it was brutal enough... Even if Paul himself didn't get it, that was an evisceration of one's credibility

[@secondengineer9814]

This guy has the vibes of that uncle who thinks he's right about everything and loves to explain things to you but is actually all bluster Then you learn a tiny bit about something and he makes fun of you for being such a nerd

[@grab2337]

"It's obvious you've read a lot of fiction" is an amazing insult 😂

[@TurtleChad1]

Palestine has the right to defend itself from settler colonialism

[@winter7360]

@@TurtleChad1 bait used to be believable

[@ChristopherPearson-u1u]

Could also be a complement if you're jumping between different literature traditions.

[@sharpnail8806]

@@TurtleChad1 I watch rev and seeing you here and their is a trip.

[@overtherenowaitthere]

@@sharpnail8806 hes a bot

[@PEZ1514]

A neck beard with a god complex leaves his basement virtually

[@TheFloridaBro]

Aw man, I wanted to be the neckbeard comment

[@Ematched]

Paulsego has really gone downhill. He definitely peaked with his guest spots on Drunken Peasants.

[@robertcampomizzi7988]

After the intro, this guy was already giving The Simpsons Comic Book Store Guy vibes.

[@mattstone3650]

@@Ematchedthose were the best days…my god the Brett Keune, or however you spell it, arc with Paul was hilarious

[@conaldeugenepeterson2147]

Yeah… Gaben kinda fell off.

[@megaman10]

5 hour leftist debate thank you august

[@matthewahern3394]

I'm just starting this feast! So excited

[@joshdavidson12345]

@@matthewahern3394I’m 55minutes behind you

[@daniaull5386]

​@@joshdavidson12345I'm 31 min behind you and and 1 and 26 min behind them

[@info_dash313]

@@daniaull5386 I'm 10 hours behind you, 2 hours into this, and at least 15 years behind on my child support.

[@howdareyou41]

which one is the leftist? the rational guy talking common sense or the comic book store owner who is using racial slurs against Japanese people

[@arthurporter131]

“Your pragmatism is something I always have a hard time forming an argument against.” Says it all

[@drzaiusdd]

This dude’s political affiliation? Redditarian

[@enemyk2800]

Redditardation

[@theobell2002]

Not even. Reddit doesn't seem all that doomerpilled to me like this guy. So I'd argue he's actually worse.

[@Chanlander]

Why is this dude so condescending?

[@NuttyAs]

Then they push deeper into the conversation and he admits he knows nothing about what he’s talking about. You would expect that to only happen once in a conversation too. Apparently once bitten twice shy doesn’t exist to this guy

[@dusk3485]

He flip flops from friendly to condescending

[@sutulj]

dunning kruger...

[@ArnoldSchwarzenegger-ny2jn]

Dunning-Kruger Effect?

[@Mart-Bro]

He's unconsciously projecting his insecurity

[@andrewbaer2820]

There was a lot of “ I’m smug and I’m walking you into a gotcha “ and then it quickly turned into “ oh shit you torpedoed my argument let me pseudo suck up and grovel at your feet” that happened several times and it was cringy af

[@MichealPacitto]

Damage control. Move on move on.

[@SporkyMcFly]

I saw no place where he tried to "gotcha" Dedtiny. Got an example I can look at?

[@sutulj]

"Give me a win... Please lord Destiny just one win pleaseeee" What a loser!

[@andrewbaer2820]

@@SporkyMcFly maybe “ gotcha” isn’t the best phraseology. But he certainly would stake out a position rather stridently and smugly and then destiny would cut the legs out from under it and then he would admit it and basically suck up to destiny

[@SporkyMcFly]

@@andrewbaer2820 Now we seem to be on the same page. Paul is quite fragile in his Ego (he goes by PaulsEgo). It is quite embarrassing to see dismantled, but if he faces an intellectual lightweight it is equally as hilarious.

[@factjuniorroll]

Okay this is a certified Destiny Classic

[@HistoricaHungarica]

Nah. There isn't any N-word or F-word in it.

[@factjuniorroll]

@@HistoricaHungarica They did say Beaner tho 🫘 🇲🇽

[@howdareyou41]

@@HistoricaHungarica the lefty lib did get some anti Japanese slurs in though

[@howdareyou41]

@@factjuniorroll don't forget that casual NIP when talking about Japanese

[@sutulj]

​@@factjuniorroll I had a small stroke when he said WB and a second later said Beaner ... Why didn't he abbreviated that to "the B word" if he thought wet backs was so wrong to say?! Bizarre

[@gavinbrennan4787]

Bro quick flipped from anti-imperialist to "Why don't we just invade and force them to get over it."

[@RickGenis]

The transition in each topic from bullheaded and cocky "you having a hard time, bud?" to hat-in-hand demure "I'm just trying to understand, man" was aggrevating to a point where I was eventually just waiting for the train wreck. I don't have that kind of patience to talk to someone so confidently ignorant.

[@mohammedalshebl8896]

"Its really messed up that we blamed Afghanistan and committed atrocities for a terrorist being stationed there, Anyway let me tell you how we should blame Saudi Arabia instead because he was previously a Saudi citizen"

[@ecbrocker]

It wasn't just because he was a Saudi citizen It was also because his money said "Saudi Arabia" on it

[@williamclark7872]

Yeah, this point needled me. Like did the guy not understand why Afghanistan was a target? Like Afghanistan was attacked because it refused to extradite Osama Bin Laden. And also when Tiny pressed him on his Saudi Arabia thing, he seemed completely incapable of connecting that unless Saudi Arabia's government personally did fund it, that would not pass as a justification for war.

[@ripem1417]

@@ecbrockerI’m sure some of his money said “USA” on it or “Euro” on it as well….

[@superfarful]

Except at the end he refused to say that he thought the Saudi government was responsible for 911 so whats the point of the argument

[@paulmaartin]

Does he know that Afghanistan was in a civil war and they were run by the most insane reactionaries on earth. We can't invade every nutjobs on earth but leftists really love defending garbage.

[@LiquidFracture]

this is incredible to watch. destiny repeatedly getting stunlocked by idiocy and then this man gleefully laughing cuz he thinks he made a point. its like watching a car crash i cant look away

[@tonybankse]

Destiny casually destroying careers is peak content

[@reikowallach2465]

Paul's online presence has been running on fumes for years, it wouldn't surprise me if this gives him a big boost.

[@allieflounder5764]

You have to have something to destroy it.

[@HistoricaHungarica]

It's easy for him. He practiced destroying careers on himself a lot before. 😂

[@joemartin6078]

paul's ego was never really a career. he was a drunken peasant. and half the time then he told the same stories over and over again. like i figured he died years ago. this is the first i have seen him since 2017.

[@Realag666]

5 hours whaaaaat

[@SubzeroBlack68]

"Because I've read The Lord of the Rings, I'm supposed to tell you who Frodo is?!"

[@tm5123]

Intresting how a guy who is so against police, wants some magical international police force to keep the peace in his magical solution to Israel - Palestine.

[@anthonyzaddiolo]

😂😂 100% him claiming internal affairs and the cops are friends is hilarious. They hate each other.

[@sutulj]

And a separate police to check on the first one and a separate police to check one the second one and a separate one for the third and ...

[@Ponder_the_Cross]

So there are these funny little things called nato and the UN and it would seem that international peace keeping would be part of why they say they exist. Wacky right? Oh wait, they only do that when it furthers their own objectives.

[@michaelscott70]

Dude hasn’t thought through any of his arguments

[@superfarful]

His second police he was talking about literally is Internal Affairs and he didnt give a good reaon why it would be different when he created it vs how it exists now other than he says it will be

[@william4996]

I think Paul has the classic problem of not understanding that 1 million and 1 billion are wildly different amounts. If you have billions like a Saudi family 10 million disappearing isnt as big of a deal as you would assume as a person who hasn't seen 50k in one place, nevermind a million.

[@michaelmassimino6515]

Good point

[@sutulj]

I think Paul also expects that the money will only transfer once and the Saudi will get a recipes for explosion materials and for "how to fly in to building" lessons on it...

[@Nitidus]

None of his points about Saudi Arabia make any sense...

[@danculver5711]

Destiny really destroyed The Amazing Atheist here

[@GibbDibb]

It's paul

[@danculver5711]

@@GibbDibb that’s the joke I was going for 😅

[@TheKomentor]

TAA has always been scared of debates, and when he does debate, he loses miserably, like the one with Adam & Sitch. I don't think TAA will dare to debate Destiny.

[@mikeyg9958]

@@TheKomentor He doesn’t *have* to debate Destiny, they can just have a discussion.

[@thewingedserpent5823]

​@mikeyg9958 has destiny ever spoken to logicked? I think that could be interesting.

[@ek5273]

Paulsego is slowly but surely morphing into what he once fought so hard against: The Manatee: Brett Keane

[@Subcomfreak1]

Ohhh god... I can kinda see it. He certainly thinks he's right and has his dogma you know. I think he should take a month long break, hit the books (different, non marxist/leftist books), and then come back, you know?

[@RonMi95]

I used to follow the DFF but they have fallen off. No og opinions anymore just rank contrarianism and fuck us, fuck the west, everything bad etc.

[@DuffyP]

They're almost the same indivijul.

[@Ireallyneedintensivetherapy]

​He's desperate to have people recognize his average genius. He's one of those advanced class kids who isn't actually special but was told his entire life he was the best. Listening to him is like listening to a pop quiz from a loser teacher

[@overshottyler]

This brought back so much nostalgia.

[@Tubbles]

"I dont like labels" proceeds to label himself 100 different ways..

[@πεσκανδρίτσα99]

I AM A DARREL DAVIS LABOR LEFTIST

[@truthshimada5880]

The number of times this guy has asked Destiny a question just to cut him off 10 seconds into Borrellis answer is higher than he has ever been. And that says a lot.

[@B-Nice]

Destiny doesn't understand this guy, if Israel and Gaza just had Labor Unions everything would be peaceful 👍

[@danielblokh2956]

Accept Israel does. You're ignorant

[@Nitidus]

Too bad Jihadists don't like labor unions, or anything emancipatory at all. In contrast, in Israel, there is הָהִסְתַּדְּרוּת הַכְּלָלִית שֶׁל הָעוֹבְדִים בְּאֶרֶץ יִשְׂרָאֵל (founded in the 1920s) where 80% of all Israeli working people were organized in it's prime in the 70s.

[@theplan-m6c]

I mean would be good.

[@h0lycrap]

Maybe if israel stayed on the commi arc the leftist would like it​@@Nitidus

[@theguyishere249]

Wait destiny denies the fact about what Israel doing.

[@ddrj807]

I've never seen anyone ever get so utterly cooked. Also how the fuck does Destiny have so much patience with people like this? I wouldn't have lasted 5 minutes with his attitude

[@humanmerelybeing1966]

It’s content. I also think he thinks (rightly) that he benefits from explaining things in different ways to different people because the next time he’s in an actual debate, he’ll be better prepared to explain those things. You gain a lot of understanding through teaching, which is what he’s basically doing here.

[@zompocalpha1]

​@@AkaiKnight Someone else in the comments referred to paul as a low level bad guy in a filler episode. That shit is feeling more and more accurate as the video is going on.

[@justindooley2738]

I think Destiny knew he could demolish this guy taking the opposite stance on any topic. It was like a debate practice session and ego building exercise. And pretty hilarious to watch.

[@Maelthorn1337]

​@@AkaiKnight Nahhh you should see him talking to NoBS back in the Nebraska days. He maintained monk-mode for a long time there. Steven's had the capacity to calmly engage in patience-testing conversations for quite some time.

[@AnimosityIncarnate]

Psycopathy and stress resistance. Not even lying... 😂

[@jimmymcgreason]

5 hours of gnome vs. dwarf, my work day is saved. Thank you. Edit: Almost halfway through and holy fuck is this guy insufferable. I keep trying to tell myself it's an act. Props to Destiny for not just kicking this dude and blocking him altogether.

[@netapel2625]

Dwarven engineering or Gnome chemistry? What could kill more? Personally, I believe that a Gnome made artificial Virus could kill more people than a Dwarven Bomber ever could.

[@sutulj]

I screaming at the screen: shut up shut up SHUT UP!!!

[@Jst.a.Normal.Bottle.of.Mustard]

The bin laden thing had me wanting to tear my hair out

[@bulldozer8950]

You can tell destiny switched to his “babying a republican mode” (whether this guy is Republican or not idk but it’s the same thing he does with them).

[@AspiringDevil]

He planted some seeds today I look forward to the content crop it will yield when this guy has actually defend himself later lol

[@LuvsicVI]

Can this dude make a single point without going into a long ass story about back in the 1980's? Jesus Christ lmao. We get it bro, you're old.

[@realGBx64]

Paul: goes from Israeli gen@@de to media capture by government to fairness doctrine to racism to police brutality Destiny: tries to make a point that lasts longer than 20 seconds Paul: “I am not going to let you ramble on”

[@slimnicki]

For those of you that were cringy Amazing Atheist/Paulsego/DP fans like me since 2008 or 09, and have found yourselves here: I know. This is surreal. It's like staring into the void.

[@dansuccessful9794]

💯 It's depressing isn't it?

[@Jeebay_]

Watched Tj and Paul for so long, I’m even apart of their Patreon, but I just don’t know anymore. Seeing Paul outside of his usual environment is awkward and he came across so weird and smug it was really cringe. Paul used to be generally a nice dude and sometimes the salt would come out but now he’s been completely consumed by the salt.

[@UnofficialLesTwins]

I've watched this entire video already.

[@richeeezgaming6929]

I watched it 43 seconds ago

[@noone-vi5co]

I watched it seven weeks ago

[@CrankyStew]

What a weasly little liar dude

[@miguel-um2em]

What took you so long?

[@TheVilouboy]

2000 and Late bro

[@MauricioHoffman]

After 15+ minutes of debating the 4 map meme and captain caveman still thinks the whole green map belonged to Palestinian Arabs… no hope for humanity

[@pancakingon]

Tried Googling but couldn't find anything. What is the 4 map meme?

[@Credemis]

@@pancakingongoogle “the map that lies”

[@pancakingon]

@@Credemis Thanks

[@Credemis]

@@pancakingon No probs

[@allrequiredfields]

bUt iTs On tHE "WAtErboRnE eDgE"

[@RobertEgbers]

This dude isn’t the atheism final boss, he is the r/atheism bathroom attendant.

[@howdareyou41]

and when the plumbing fucks up he fixes it because he's read every book on plumbing. but later admits the only book he's read is Stephen King. and while he was fixing it, a real plumber was trying to explain to him what's wrong and he laughs in his face while shit is spraying all over his face

[@Rat-King27]

Ye this guy and r/atheism is the reason atheism has such a bad image online, it's all basement warriors that are just assholes with, ironically, a god complex.

[@Gallus11B]

The final boss of r/atheism is Matt Dillahunty and he will never be defeated.

[@Killerkiki313]

@@Gallus11B I don’t care how crotchety he gets, I will always love listening to Matt Dillahunty

[@Toanleigh]

The fact he doesn't wear a fedora disappoints me. :( But even though it's not there physically I see it "spiritually". Also more tugging at his greasy goatee/beard hybrid.

[@k.3050]

if this dude wouldn't sound so smug he would be less insufferable

[@olemanyounger5040]

Paulsego, "I'm not an uneducatable child!". Proceeds to be an uneducatable child for 5 hours.

[@flimmerball]

Destinys patience in this makes me believe I can acomplish anything.

[@reyjonhsmith]

This is an Individual Situation

[@EH-jg3hh]

Dorn they're threatening my family

[@TheKomentor]

Won't be surprised if Brett Keane makes fun of Paul for this performance on his channel.

[@hntrbdnspns]

You spelled indivijul wrong

[@reyjonhsmith]

@@hntrbdnspns Egghead?

[@EH-jg3hh]

@@IchHalteDichInDerDunkelheit really? is that official manattee lore? So Brett had always been the true individjul threat to his family situation

[@worncoder8161]

I watched DP religiously as a teen and then also DFF for a while. This is kinda sad to see. Maybe Paul should have stuck to just dunking on the Manatee

[@spazmang101]

Destiny did an inhuman job of staying calm and just being informative for most if this, good job.

[@howdareyou41]

This guys smug, condescending attitude combined with his focal fry is just about the most annoying thing I've ever witnessed. He really thinks he won this "debate".

[@soyuzsovietsky]

Him and those of his ilk give so much charity when it comes to Palestine, to make it clear that Palestine is not Hamas and these are different things….but when we talk about 9/11, all of the sudden the ENTIRE SAUDI ARABIA was behind it. What happened to the nuance???

[@satelliteanthem]

More food?? I just ate I still have to Digestiny

[@TheFloridaBro]

Chillll lol

[@fsh_outta_wtr]

!

[@bazooka712]

Insurrection is when you throw up

[@conaldeugenepeterson2147]

This was a good one

[@guyfromdubai]

Great big bowla chilly, no cheese

[@CamBoone]

This dude is the living meme of when a discord mod believes reading a lot automatically qualifies them as a thought leader or respected intellectual 😂

[@jackduane5555]

Better than some moron who takes pride in not reading anything, like Andrew Tate

[@roymarshall_]

Reading a lot about a topic does allow you to engage with the topic in a sophisticated way, but that does require actually reading about the topic and not just LARPing as somebody who read about the topic.

[@CamBoone]

@@roymarshall_ I agree if someone can digest and comprehend what they read it can, that’s why just claiming to have read doesn’t mean much to me. This dude is either lying or didn’t retain much from his reading.

[@jgofimusic]

Yeah you have to think about what you read and actually critically evaluate it, or else you become a libertarian or something lmao

[@69nites]

"Saudi nationals" without the "in exile in Afghanistan" bit seems very bad faith.

[@eda230bbs2]

Bro is not on the left or the right, bro is on reddit

[@kronaperthro]

Paul's Ego is just sad. I used to love him so much.

[@papaskimask5853]

Same, crazy seeing him again.

[@EH-jg3hh]

Paulzeego - Master of all philosophical treatises 😂

[@ponytoast1231]

It deflate a lot in the last quarter

[@manuelantuna26]

He is being doing a backwards hadouken since 1992

[@MidWitPride]

He looks and sounds rough here. Both him and TJ have really circled down the drain health-wise(among other ways). They help to motivate me to keep myself in some kind of shape before I too hit my 40s. Your 20s and early 30s kinda carry you through the unhealthy lifestyle, but all that really comes to bite you in the ass when you are in your 40s.

[@backwardsbandit8094]

This conversation wasn't so bad until he whipped out the Palestine meme map, proved that he has no idea what a mandate is, doesn't even know which countries were born out of the collapse of the Ottoman Empire and why the Ottoman Empire collapsed and then bragged about stumping Destiny, while Destiny desperately tried to repress Nebraska Steve like the fucking Hulk.

[@Bertalan022]

I'm usually with Destiny on some of his takes, but in the field of history he always takes a big L, and this was no exception. He regurgitated all British arguments regarding the reason why mandates are needed. He might as well call people civilised and uncivilised at that point, but he nicely pivoted and built a slam on the hubris of the Paulsego. edit: for clarification, the L is in the meme map section. Later at 4h12 he gives a fairly good assessment of events.

[@gambitbeats2154]

​@@Bertalan022it's not British arguments it's UN and human rights data but sure

[@willtheprodigy3819]

There’s a literal genocide going on.

[@AspiringDevil]

The "they gave back the cyanide how nice of them" part is repressive of the whole conversation. Once Paul is done dodging & talking about personal life stories about black children in da hood crying for Trump to save them. (That's a Gorcha reference he didn't actually say that here) He's just trying to do the usual conspiracy stuff & "have you considered America bad bro? How would you feel if you where a Palistinian" He clearly hasn't thought about these things or ever been challenged on them.

[@AspiringDevil]

​@@Bertalan022that's cope it was British right as they won the war & we don't have a time machine. You can't say because the British empire sucked in the past the Jews today must be punished & the state of Israel dissolved.

[@Jonathan-gk8jq]

while the part on Israel / Palestine is really hard to listen to, I work in police dispatch and holy shit I was cringing every time he said anything about the police. I work for a medium sized county and just the fact that he couldn't fathom that LOS ANGLES has millions of interactions a year is CRAZY

[@ALForb]

Yeah man my closest friend is a dispatcher in a city up here in Canada (where progressives use American ACAB sentiments to inform their view on policing). There's truly no one who knows more about what police activity looks like than a dispatcher. Not sure what your experience is, but from what I can tell, the vast majority of Police activity is regular officers (not in swat gear or driving tanks) dealing with mentally unwell people or domestic disputes (usually between mentally unwell people), and most of these interactions go pretty well considering how messy those situations can be. People need to keep in mind how hard that job can be, and that police doing a good job doesn't make the news.

[@Jonathan-gk8jq]

@@ALForb 100%, I've listened to the officers talk to crazy people, usually it's very professional and when it's not it's because it's like the 8th time the officer has gone out there and the person knows the officer by name (and harasses them) they're just people man. Good people, bad people, just people. I'm even a big proponent of more accountability, people like this just have NO IDEA where to start because they don't know anything

[@xilofone8166]

destiny: "fact." this guy: "urmm, but i knew a guy..."

[@Lordsebastian101]

Yeah that's paul in a nutshell, he's like 40 and thinks that his narrow "lived experience" beats actual facts

[@MacA60230]

At first I thought this guy wasn't so bad. Weirdly smug but whatever. When it came to Palestine though? The dude knows fuck all, saw a map that agreed with his bias and instead of showing some humility when presented with a more complete picture he just doubles down cranked the unearned smugness to 11 and went to battle. Dude was genuinely unbearable.

[@TheVilouboy]

That intro (Kant) bruh….i bust out laughing at work because of his face. People came over to my desk, and asked me what is going on?

[@Majorwindy]

How on earth would you even explain lol 😂😂

[@mikemikel1629]

​@@Majorwindywith words

[@Majorwindy]

@@mikemikel1629 ah yeah true. Just like how you fund things with money.

[@mikemikel1629]

@@Majorwindy Exactly, now you're thinking with thoughts!

[@Majorwindy]

@@mikemikel1629 now we’re both as smart as the genius that we saw in this video. We too can have genius opinions like ‘make the second police to police the first police’

[@romannewhearth9907]

"was not a burnie or buster" fuck, not even 5 minutes in and lies

[@harryroadman1089]

I read this just as he said it lol

[@Zquirrelthing]

actually baffling he would even say that lol

[@CrazyRockwell]

He's half righr: he WASN'T a "Bernie", but he IS a buster.

[@mikeyg9958]

@@romannewhearth9907 He isn’t a Bernie or Buster; he’s antiestablishment who has ultra-high expectations that can never be met. If Bernie was the presidential candidate, he’d still be complaining.

[@WileyBoxx]

For real, I was literally there in 2015/16 (agreeing with him at the time)

[@ToastKnight_]

Salty Paul. Round as a ball.

[@captainbeefheart5815]

Vaush Derangement Syndrome over. Destiny Derangement Syndrome commence.

[@reyjonhsmith]

The good ol days

[@Ematched]

I do miss Storytime with Paul. And the PokemonGo Hotline.

[@MrAzul132]

Why is he in a suit?

[@elkin2567]

@@MrAzul132after the undertaker threw man kind off the hell in the cell?

[@Xairos84]

This guy is a walking anecdote. Every point of reference is some urban legend from the 90s.

[@jacom34]

the absolute confidence this guy exudes while having not once displayed an understanding of the topic is honestly astounding

[@jamesnite2157]

Watched the whole live stream. This guy is one of the most smug people Destiny has debated in days

[@Spaceconstructs]

Ok?

[@jamesnite2157]

@@Spaceconstructs I'm Ron Burgundy?

[@lxlylb]

As someone that's been watching Paul for years and years, it's so funny reading these comments. When he streams on his channel, if you go in his stream and say "bye, nice chat but I have to go to sleep" he starts screaming to stop wasting his time with arrivals departures and then bans you haha He will also ban you if you have no profile pic, if you ask "what's your fav ...", if you mention anime, if you don't have a job and try to talk politics... If you're arguing with him in chat he will start counting down from 10 and if you didn't write a response in time he bans you haha There's been a once where he banned so many people that there was no one left and he had to unban everyone hahah

[@jamesnite2157]

@@lxlylb lmao he sounds insane

[@saransaran9185]

@@lxlylb >if you don't have a job and try to talk politics That's actually based. A broken clock is right twice a day.

[@Realistum]

i have never seen such a gap in knowledge between two people

[@howdareyou41]

or such a smug 101 student who thinks he's winning a debate against his history prof

[@TheMasterblah]

I lost it when he said "are we talking about the biblical Kingdom of Israel?". The dude knows nothing about history and thinks his opinion on Palestine matters. He doesn't even know how Palestine got its name.

[@TheMarlinlask]

Yeah, "Can you take two hours and explain the creation of Israel so I can then debate you on it?"

[@mukkaar]

Idk why this dude feels so annoying. It wasnt at first, but longer things went on more annoyed I became. I can't point it out fully but it has to be his smug overconfidence and way he argues, switching from one talking point to another, not keeping with the subject.

[@TerminallyLogikal]

Bc he says things like “me thinks”… that’s why

[@NathanChappell-yc9dh]

Yea he acts very impressed by himself. It started off okay, like he seems like a reasonable guy, then by the end it seems like he's performing a bit.

[@1123Steveo]

It’s the constant interrupting and assumed moral and intellectual superiority that he thinks he has that annoys me the most

[@samhenr2392]

I'm struggling to pinpoint how I feel about this guy -> yeah he's obviously smug, but he's also kinda nice, and able to admit when doesn't know things (sorta). BUT I also get the feeling he's a massive ass to others when arguing when he's not faced with someone knowledgable on a subject

[@mukkaar]

@@samhenr2392 Well, he was being dick and deceptive. But since he couldn't pass his bs through destiny, he had to at least seem nice especially at the end. Overall, I don't think you can really applaud a criminal for not doing crime after they have been caught and locked up.

[@ReddFoxx1562]

This guy suffers from being an impressionable teenager when Clerks came out.

[@roymarshall_]

Christ this is accurate

[@vex1669]

"I don't think I'm being bad faith." Goes on to belittle and deride almost everything Destiny says. Oh, I don't know why anyone would call PaulsEgo bad faith, can anyone explain this to me?

[@sutulj]

The chat erupted the second he said that 😂

[@vex1669]

@@sutulj At least he kinda got it in the end.

[@sutulj]

@@vex1669 I'd be shocked if anything actually gone through and sticks with him

[@vex1669]

@@sutulj Well, seems you were correct.

[@pickledownrickenomics7619]

Oh no, I love Paul as an entertainer but he stands no chance against destiny. This is gonna be brutal

[@skullingtonfx4441]

Yeah hes not a debate bro. At all lol.

[@liberalbias4462]

True he's got wacky ideas.

[@DerUberGaijan]

It's not about being a "debate bro". He's just comically uninformed but smugly confident in his assertions. He bases his entire knowledge of the world unironically off memes and TikToks.

[@Metaphix]

Holy hell this was embarrassing for Paul. He's been stuck in his little echo chamber for way too long.

[@MungTao]

Dudes not a fan of futurama? Ive never heard anybody ever say that. What a weirdo.

[@zunuf]

If they didn't see the show when it was just 4 seasons... I get it. It's almost as bad as modern simpsons sometimes.

[@lilthreadd]

@@zunuf that last sentence is so ridicilously wrong its insane

[@Tdawg-b2b]

I don't like it, the art looks like shit

[@JustAPriapism]

​@user-tn4rx8pc3p And it is your absolute right to have that cringe opinion 👍🙂

[@jgofimusic]

Futurama is slop with decent jokes. At least early Simpsons was creative

[@ancalyme]

Dude is actually advocating colonizing Israel and Palestine lol

[@shainahum6717]

yea, with all his shit talking about the british mandate, his solution is just another british mandate but even more forcefull. good job, his solution to decolonization is colonization. reality isn't a satire, it's a farce.

[@joshs6385]

This guy keeps using the word "meme" but doesn't seem to have a solid grasp on what it means

[@samster317]

This is one of my least favorite people you've ever debated against. This guy is so smug despite knowing literally nothing, he sucks so bad

[@MH-bw9zt]

As someone who watches Deep Fat Fried regularly, it was almost sad to see Paul act like this. I cant be surprised though he's been going on unhinged rants and then calls people slurs and bans them if they so much as diagree with him. With that said, I'd love to see Destiny have a conversion with Jeff Holiday, a regular on DP

[@TheKomentor]

I won't be surprised if he performs as badly as Paul.

[@MH-bw9zt]

@@TheKomentor he's pretty intelligent though and doesn't get triggered and act like Paul

[@SkeetersGuitar]

I haven't watch DP or DFF in years. Are they still funny?

[@FutureFoliageFF]

​@@MH-bw9ztdestiny should debate intellectual Joe

[@leeseiberg2408]

I loved Jeff back in the day

[@owenschmidt1608]

"OH BROTHER, THIS GUY STINKS!" - fish

[@lau_mac]

😂😂😂

[@namenome3680]

"fish said calmly"

[@mattalexander5394]

Listening to that guy struggle with the 1947 map says it all....

[@Symphony10618]

This was the most scatter-brained debate I have ever heard. This random guy took them down the most random avenues. How did they even get to the conversation about media after defining Genocide?

[@ek5273]

After listening to Paulsego blather for that long, I am starting to think the Manatee Brett Keane had a point

[@Scardor]

Blabber? Blather holds pee 😅

[@harpsmith8570]

What is this Manatee reference

[@JordanNied]

@@harpsmith8570 Type in Drunken Peasents Brett Keane

[@DeepStone-6]

​@@harpsmith8570decade old lore

[@haloplayer9855]

An ancient meme from a more civilized age​@@harpsmith8570

[@TopherPettitGaming]

I'm just going to say it... Vegan Gains is the awkward dork that comes up to at the wrong time at parties to have a debate some stupid crap. His timing is annoying every time.

[@roycampbell586]

I think its cute

[@Slava_Ukraini1991]

"hey there pal, i heard you was talking about the israel palestine1!11!!!11!!"

[@william4996]

It's sort of endearing. I used to dislike the guy but even if I full disagree with him on a lot of stuff he's kinda fun and cool.

[@baileylund229]

that is his schtick, zero social awareness + being generally annoying.

[@nathanpapp432]

@@william4996 I feel the exact same. His awful timing is almost comedically perfect. He interjects with the most banal drivel and so confidently thinks its gold. He has an odd sort of charm or SUCH complete lack of it (Im not really sure which) that makes it hard to seriously hate him.

[@mikeyg9958]

He's been doing backwards hudoukens since 1992.

[@derekhatton7799]

Gonna hurt Paul’s Ego to not get his name in the title

[@maguslor3290]

I don’t believe a word this guy says…he’s so desperate for approval from destiny..I’ve never been a big fan of destiny and only really seen cut ups of his debates where they clearly edit it so he looks bad..he does annoy me but seeing how he absolutely destroys this guy by just giving him enough rope to hang himself… all his talk about “growing up around racism” is soooo cringe…I’ve never seen someone who has such a warped idea of how other people perceive them.

[@SpunkyCats]

When someone interrupts over and over to not allow you to get your point out and then says "Oh this must be a tough one huh?" "oh you must have a hard time with this one huh?" is so laughable. Make a point and then listen to the counter. Then rebut. Trying to get 5,000 "gotcha's" like hes CNN or FOX.

[@durrnip]

NOOOO NOT THE GREEN AREA MAP MEME edit actually, this guy was pretty good overall ✋😐✋

[@bc9554]

"I've read every book Stephen King ever wrote" How many times do you think he's reread the child orgy scene specifically?

[@bazooka712]

He is as much as an avid reader as Epstein was a priest

[@heat.death_999]

He's such a big fan, I bet he also abuses cocaine

[@wren4077]

Also why is that a brag or an argument The only place I would say that to show any kind of authority is in a Stephen king fan club

[@W00KER]

@@wren4077 Even there it's probably not a thing you'd say out loud.

[@TheIncognitusMe]

@@wren4077 I'd be pretty impressed at the dedication. Stephen King has like 5000 books.

[@apexdude105]

"Did you not read Snowden's book?" Right after that proceeds to say something contradicting Snowden, can't make this up lmao

[@TheNergaahl]

Love how this guy thinks he knows everything about I/P but doesn't know the Golan Heights were a part of Syria, not Palestine. Or that Israel has been fighting "Palestinians" since 1948.

[@dima13693]

Why do you keep wasting time with people who clearly are making shit up as they go?

[@RedOlympus]

Because it’s everyone

[@PuddingXXL]

@@RedOlympus You have a point

[@uers3317]

funny

[@Regemony]

Publicly dismantling misinfo and false narratives is an increasingly necessary task.

[@damx9385]

he commented to chat towards the end that obviously he is dogwalking the conversation, but that its usefull to refresh his mind with looking up the relevant statistics and reading up on specific examples as they went through the conversation. this conversation is basicly just light debate training

[@trollingisasport]

0:14 "No. I Kant."

[@PuddingXXL]

dammit

[@guidobolke5618]

Kant is actually pronounced like another english word that would be improper to say in a public setting.

[@trollingisasport]

@@guidobolke5618 Don't be such a Kant.

[@guidobolke5618]

@@trollingisasport yes

[@innominatum9906]

My dad is 77 years old now and he definitely has a harder time in keeping up with conversations - but his doctor says there isnt any signs of dementia etc showing - its just a completely normal thing that happens when you age. Damn, just writing down his age reminds me that he wont be in my life forever. 😟

[@---uk6uf]

This is such a mindfuck. I was a cringey Amazing Atheist & DP fan in middle school and early high school. PaulsEgo is literally how I heard of Destiny in the first place. Crazy how much he has declined in the 7 or 8 years since I lost track of him. He literally looks and sounds like he's on the verge of death. Also kind of sobering to see how easily influenced I was by sophistry.

[@slimnicki]

I am in the exact same boat. It's honestly surreal.

[@TheMarlinlask]

"Can you take two hours and explain the creation of Israel, so I can then debate you on it?"

[@ChichiNaka]

When I'm 45 I hope I have very strong political opinions based around twitter memes

[@JustAPriapism]

Why wait lol everyone else already started years ago, now youre just falling behind 😃

[@miguel-um2em]

This guy is like if Vaush and reddit had a child

[@vicariouschism86]

Paul actually hates Vaush

[@SoberSheldon]

The short stack goblin in his streetwear phase, prancing around on his toes on instagram. It was fucked

[@cal4730]

I missed having 5 hours of content

[@MrMossMan7272]

“If you look at the memes from this time” you mean pictures? Your history shouldn’t be coming from memes my guy. A picture also doesn’t tell you anything about the reality that those people went through. Also as a constant reader myself, why are you mentioning that you have read Stephen King as a reason why you are intelligent? I like Stephen King as well, but Stephen king doesn’t tell me anything about philosophy, economics, or much of anything else. You are embarrassing yourself. This dude hasn’t had anyone question him in a long time and it clearly shows. He has the rhetoric stuck in his head and has never had anyone challenge it. Edit: Jesus dude, Palestine has never been a country. Ever. Period. It has been owned by different countries for millennia, it has never been the actual country of Palestine. It was owned by Egyptians, it was owned by Jordanians, it was owned by the Ottoman Empire, it was owned by the British. And now most of that territory is owned by Israel, because they fought for it and established it as a proper country after declaring independence and defending their own borders.

[@RedAnimal100]

When he mentioned the memes from this time and just talked about photos really shows how chronically online this dude is

[@tristan3028]

Its funny because Paul has such a fragile ego too. If Destiny spoke to him in the same tones, he's have yelled at him and left the show.

[@Metaphix]

Why does he keep calling the Ottomans Byzantine? The Ottoman Turks overthrow the Byzantines. Speaking of stealing land. lol

[@TheMasterblah]

I'm assuming he's calling them Byzantine as in "administratively complicated/inefficient". I only remember him calling them Byzantine when he was trying to say Palestine was a far away border region that had little administrative assistance.

[@IGiveTheBestTakes]

Im finding people who say "I have read all the books on x subject" have never read a single book.

[@EdgarFriendlysCivicsTeacher]

Yeah but they thought about reading them! Next best thing. Right?

[@seamussmurf3866]

I have read 6 books on World War I and still struggle with the details. What a quagmire.

[@IGiveTheBestTakes]

@@seamussmurf3866 Yep difference right their is A) 6 books is very realistic compared to "all the books" lol and B) you already accomplished what all these fail to do. Be willing to admit you dont know everything and drop the ego. You probably engage with things with the intent to learn from it instead of push whatever knowledge you know onto another.

[@howdareyou41]

Yeah but he read Carrie and IT

[@erikshure360]

It's Dunning Kruger in full effect. He's probably read 7 or 8 books on the subject and thinks that's all there is. Problem is, to really understand this kind of material you have to re-read the same books a few times to get a deep understanding of them.

[@TheJordanK]

Asks question. Destiny begins to explain. Interrupts and changes to new topic. Repeat

[@adam-yk6yd]

PaulsEgo ??!? Taking me back to the early days on KZbin with this guy. Is the amazing atheist coming up as well