I Hate John Grammaticus | Warhammer 40k Lore

[@someguy4405]

John Grammaticus canonically deals more damage to Horus than Sanguinius does.

[@livefromtheblacklibrary]

I hadn't realized that and now I'm fuming

[@someguy4405]

Thanks, Dan.

[@akumaking1]

@@livefromtheblacklibrarydoes this Vol 3 sucks worse than a 100-year-old vacuum?

[@drakeblack4695]

I hate this😂

[@someguy4405]

Should've put john on the fucking cover.

[@DreadAnon]

If John Grammaticus has a million haters, then I am one of them. If John Grammaticus has ten haters, then I am one of them. If John Grammaticus has only one hater then that is me. If John Grammaticus has no haters, then that means I am no longer on earth. If the world is for John Grammaticus, then I am against the world.

[@ronantheronin3521]

Oh cool, the Warhammer meme guy.

[@Ironbattlemace]

I fucking hate John Grammaticus. I can't state this enough, he feels like neutered Lucius The Eternal.

[@JustAPlumber11]

Amen

[@marcopololos]

I just watched your video and had to learn why John was such an ass

[@Ttegegg]

I thought he was a joke character

[@Silver.799]

This is the equivalent of a dwarf making a 26-hour video of why he hates elves. I'm still gonna watch it though

[@livefromtheblacklibrary]

Except I'M the elf LMAO

[@indrickboreale7381]

@@livefromtheblacklibrary Give him one round of Leaf Lover's Special

[@blumiu2426]

A book like that wouldn't end for a Dwarf.

[@Dogmelter42]

Never forget the War of the Beard. Never forgive the Elves. But will agree, John Dramatapuss sucks.

[@alejandrorp5160]

@@livefromtheblacklibrary Stop this charade. Now. Change the channel's name to 'Live from Mendregard' and get a proper Iron Warrior avatar

[@herretik2287]

John Grammaticus is the type of guy to turn into an accordion after getting hit on the head with a mallet.

[@Bananasnotasong]

I have no idea what this means but somehow I know that I agree with it.

[@crywlf9103]

@@Bananasnotasong old-timey piano teeth

[@Bananasnotasong]

@@crywlf9103 Okay you right.

[@sanitylogic4611]

'John Grammaticus' sounds like a name you give to a trope character to MacGuffin around

[@f0rdgamer]

Which is what he does, and could also describe 75% of warhammer characters

[@LordVader1094]

Indeed, for that's what he is

[@derekmcmanus8615]

Actual news reader on BBC4 Radio

[@TenraMichelle-o5m]

@maltheri9833John MacGrufficus

[@greencanner4284]

Wait until you hear about angron

[@noahthompson5030]

John Grammaticus is the kind of guy to go “oh jeepers” when slipping on a puddle

[@Minority119]

John Grammaticus is the kind of guy to go "jeez louise" when something catches him by surprise

[@InquisitorialOperator]

😂

[@murphy7801]

Not British enough. He would say "oh my"

[@Minority119]

@@murphy7801alright john grammaticus is the type of guy to stumble into something strange and put his hands on his hips and say "what's all this then?"

[@RedheadedReaper]

​@@murphy7801He's not british.

[@Dustbinlid1]

Fun fact, originally this was Chrono's review of The End and the Death Part 3 but he noticed the script was just "All John Grammaticus and no logic makes Chrono an angry boy" over and over so we got this video instead.

[@livefromtheblacklibrary]

Yep, this unironically is what happened

[@kazmark_gl8652]

​@@livefromtheblacklibrary what a legend

[@LegendStormcrow]

And it's confirmed!

[@officerplormby373]

John Grammaticus busts down the door on the vengeful spirit to see Horus and a bunch of demons have strung up Sanguinius’s corpse John: “Wow talk about a hang over! I bet he’s gonna feel that in the morning!”

[@teal_m_101]

And during the duel between Big E and Horus. "Talk about thanksgiving arguments."

[@AAZ-yu5ss]

An Eversor Assassin is standing behind John Grammaticus, ready to tear him limb from limb “He’s right behind me, isn’t he?”

[@maxthepaladin2147]

A psyker unleashes their power, destroying an entire squad of imperial soldiers in one stroke, leaving only Grammaticus alive "Well, that just happened"

[@RyoKasai25]

John as he's making his way in the Vengeful Spirit, "Man, can this day get even more weird?" *A horde of Daemons appear* "Sigh, me and my big mouth"

[@dantereinhardt6911]

How can you hate him? He's just Joooooooooohn freaking gramaaaaaaaaaaaaticus.

[@oblivionfan345Tony]

Aeldari; literally murder rapes a new chaos God into existence The Cabal; hmmm humanity is the problem.

[@nunyabusiness7942]

As much as I hate the Cabal, to be fair Humanity are the main ones feeding the gods by that point in time. The Cabal is stupid but, they weren't wrong that Humanity was the main power source for Chaos at that time.

[@lordexohunter558]

I mean, I don't blame them, we got John grandma test

[@Max-vp5sn]

@@lordexohunter558they LITERALLY created him.

[@runtergerutscht4401]

The good thing about the eldar birthing slaanesh is that this action also got rid of the eldar. The ones that remain are the ones that don't vibe with chaos endorsement, and the drukhari. But those seem like one of those problems that will ecentually solve itself, in the grand scheme of the galaxy.

[@slevinlaine]

Hahahahhaha.

[@GurenPlasma]

I fucking love Johnny Linguisticus

[@tommoolenaar3901]

And his brother, Joe Spellingus

[@totalCoolerUsername]

And their nerd sidekick, Jonathan Syntaxicus

[@everythingsalright1121]

Don't forget Jessie Rhetoricus and Jeremy Semanticus and Joshua Etymoligus

[@teddrewflack400]

Nathan lexicon and Trevor words

[@franciscoduarteauthor]

I love this thread

[@drag0nerd]

(sees title) (looks at runtime) Oh yeah, that's what I'm talking about

[@livefromtheblacklibrary]

I've accepted my role as a massive hater and I'm LIVING

[@TheLegendOZelda360]

Directly into the veins

[@dollarsignmexican]

"Like, zoinks Oll, that Horus guy sure is scary"

[@kingofsicily]

Oh God, I won't not be able to see JG as shaggy now

[@falsehero2001]

Like zoinks Scoob. You’re now reading this in Shaggy’s voice.

[@miracog]

John Grammaticus drinks from the milk bottle and makes sure there isn't enough for breakfast the next morning.

[@xanmontes8715]

Sanguinius' frosted nips... That's awful!

[@angry_zergling]

Then puts the empty milk carton back in the fridge.

[@wilddoge5130]

Now That's Purging if I ever seen one.

[@Gillymonster18]

And puts the toilet paper roll on the wrong way. He also doesn’t make the next pot of coffee. And chews with his mouth open. And clogs the toilet when invited over to the neighbors’ house for dinner. Leaves his cigarette butts on the ground, 3 feet from the butt can.

[@patrickdees5256]

Sly Marbo looks at John Grammaticus, and felt pitty for him. For he isn't Sly Marbo

[@jasonroberts4470]

Sly feels that way for all others.

[@patrickdees5256]

@@jasonroberts4470 but for the sake of the joke, it goes double for him

[@breadstick4458]

"AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA-" Sly Marbo's opinion on this issue

[@patrickdees5256]

@@breadstick4458 pure poetry.

[@nickcarroll8565]

“If I weren’t John Grammaticus, I’d like to be Sly Marbro” -John Grammaticus “If I weren’t Sly Marbro, I’d also like to be Sly Marbro” -Sly Marbro

[@sneedfest3399]

IN THIS HOUSEHOLD WE HATE JOHN GRAMMATICUS

[@livefromtheblacklibrary]

IN THIS HOUSE, IN THIS BLACK, IN THIS TOWN, IN THIS COUNTRY, ACROSS THE WORLD

[@WARSMITHAFROW]

All my homies hate Johnny G

[@RamblingsByCorey]

*Heavy breathing and fork hitting plates noises* He may be a hero out dere, but in dish housh John Grammaticus ish a fanouk!

[@brya9681]

Your house is in a bad neighborhood so no one cares

[@frawDgnicnaD]

Oh god I can hear the noises... ​@@RamblingsByCorey

[@dolphinerofachero3159]

The worst thing he has ever said in my opinion was: “I do not care about the Godfather” and “it insists upon itself “ like what does that even mean?

[@maxthepaladin2147]

Of course it insists upon itself, it has a point to make!

[@ArstKoben]

“Something most think is profound but in reality is pretentious and ostentatious.” Takes two seconds to Google something bro.

[@ruby_240]

Made me laugh my ass off, thanks

[@ZeroNumerous]

@@ArstKoben ...It's a meme.

[@falsehero2001]

Hmm, yes. Shallow and pedantic. I concur.

[@underplague6344]

Come to think of it, Abaddon is kinda like a reverse John Grammaticus: he's a good character when in the spotlight but the less he's shown the more he sucks.

[@crockles8754]

John Grimaticus is the Jar Jar Binks of 40k

[@xzenitramx666]

At least he jar kar make laugh and not cry out of frustration.

[@livefromtheblacklibrary]

No that's Samus, John is the young Anakin Skywalker

[@crockles8754]

@@livefromtheblacklibrary i will not tolerate this, Samus is one of my favourite characters, he's also more like an Ewok. They're both just some silly guys doing silly shenanigins in the middle of a galactic conflict!

[@rayhanmustakim7073]

​@@crockles8754 Samus is silly for you when the poor victim he's using for his jumpscare is not your friend or your loved ones.

[@Khornecussion]

​@@livefromtheblacklibrary Midichlorians

[@vgamedude9811]

>expert linguist >literally named John Grammaticus bravo gw

[@Kwisatz-Chaderach]

James Workshop at it again.

[@ranfan1820]

Would have been funnier if he were horrible at linguistics and named himself that ironically. "John Grammaticus...I take it you are a competent linguist?" "No."

[@judi1009]

Obliviously The Author did not go on 200 page long adventure with JOHN FREAKIN GRAMMATICUS

[@CidGaius]

Erebus is the character folks love to hate, Grammaticus is the character that just deserves hate

[@CidGaius]

Adding something about why these two characters who have the same kind of plot armour are received so differently. Erebus is handwringing and Grammaticus is hand waving.

[@livefromtheblacklibrary]

YEP LMAO, you put it perfectly

[@falsehero2001]

In the business, it’s called getting white heat.

[@Leman.Russ.6thLegion]

I'd like John if he was in a DIFFERENT scifi

[@livefromtheblacklibrary]

YEAH LOL, like if he was in anything else he'd be FINE

[@isiahalcindor6278]

​@livefromtheblacklibrary he sounds like a Mary Sue OC I can't see him fitting into anything with this amount of the writers sucking off they're pet character

[@TheUncivilizedNation]

He’d be pretty good in Halo or Star Wars. But in 40k he’s so out of his element

[@JacoDeltaco]

how why I dont see it

[@KnightofLondor]

@@TheUncivilizedNation Can't see Halo.

[@vicentetemes5793]

I did not even know about his VA. I just assumed Dreadanon just hated JAAAAWN FREEEAKIN GRIMMAAAAAATICAS that much.

[@thatfrog05]

“I-It’s not like I like you or anything, John… BAKA!” -Crono

[@akumaking1]

John Grammaticus should have been whacked by Erebus.

[@InquisitorThomas]

No. John Grammaticus should have killed Erebus and stole his identity, it’s like poetry, it rhymes.

[@connormcreynolds9764]

Erebus only kills important characters.

[@jojo5497]

​@@InquisitorThomasholy shit that made me laugh my ass off, gj my dude

[@Brandelwyn]

He shouldn't have existed at all, like the cabal or other perpetuals

[@Goldenblitzer]

Truck-kun, truly the darkest of the chaos gods' champions, be'lakor couldn't begin to compete

[@Brother_Rony]

LETS GOOOO, WE HATE GRAMATICUS IN THIS HOUSE

[@livefromtheblacklibrary]

GET HIS ASS

[@bolrath6984]

All my homies hate gramaticus

[@or6397]

“You’re telling me you were just making this all up Ol! You never had a plan!?” John to Ol Pearson Yeah, this is Dan making a confession right here on the whole series.

[@bodricthered]

What annoyed me most there was that I'll never said he had a plan, in fact the whole harping on taking it on faith thing was irritatingly in your face throughout. Totally ignores everything.

[@skypiratecaptain]

yeah but the point of grimdark is that youre not supposed to say the quiet part out loud.

[@DorianEudesSeverin]

I thought I hated John Grammaticus more than anyone. Then I listened to your rant. You Hate John Grammaticus more than I do. Kudos.

[@InquisitorThomas]

God, Chrono is such a Tsundere.

[@livefromtheblacklibrary]

SO HELP ME GOD

[@khuri9030]

​@@livefromtheblacklibraryyou mean So Help Me God Emperor?

[@waterbears9874]

I have a feeling I’ll understand this once I finish the video

[@marcog.verbruggen674]

@@khuri9030 "So help me Cegorach", if anything. Or Asuryan. I *presume* the Harlequins still hold faith and respect for the rest of the pantheon despite serving Cegorach specifically. But they're also all dead. Except Isha... who is captured... and Khaine... who is shattered

[@ThinkyPain]

JG in the book Legion was a damn good/promising character - thanks for acknowledging that!

[@livefromtheblacklibrary]

YEAH! Honestly it just makes everything WORSE

[@TheDuke07]

Your hate for John could power an Astronomican lol

[@NemFX]

John Grammaticus was meant to be James Bond. In Legion? You can't read him as anything other than the classic James Bond. .. the other books are a crappy Tumblr/Twitter OC version. I think Dan was forced to bring him back, and resented it, so he tried writing a character to make the editors mad enough to kill off. Pretty sure they didn't notice.

[@ANDELE3025]

Seeing as Abnett has been producing "worse than tumblrinas AI boyfriend" level writing for a while, i think its more that some prior works were lightning in a bottle. After all, no good writer would ever retcon a story of how no matter who you are, the lowliest soldier to the closest a physical god could be, you are still human and its the humanity which matters/will be both your main strength and downfall to a magic trick illusion show with a bad liquid crystal wafer based side reference to TTS (that wasn't even on jetbikes nor would send one to ultramar).

[@phoenixgear_fried85]

Man is out here written like a Steven Segal protagonist...bet he runs like him too

[@johnstoney4629]

When you said "I love Erebus" is genuinely put down the mini I was painting and glared at my phone.

[@thesmashingbadger4644]

Johnny Grimbo truly is the Hamwarmer 40'000

[@anthonycampos7417]

I can *feel* the hours of hatred poured into making this scrip

[@amanofnoreputation2164]

"Does [being a logokine] warrant the atttention of the Emperor?" It does if it means he can speak Enuncia. Big E was so dangrously infatuated with that tongue Ollianus Pius had to destory the Tower of Babel. This doesn't redeem the character or anything. I just thought this point in partiuclar fell flat.

[@isiahalcindor6278]

Did they ever make that the point of his character because if they didn't then cronos point didn't fall flat also it seems like a no brainer and something that he could actually affect without coming off as a OC

[@charlyjordan3545]

@@isiahalcindor6278 yes. The only reason the loyalists stopped horus was John using a word of Enuncia to stun him to buy time.

[@MDMDMDMDMDMDMDMDMD]

Makes sense why Lorgar is so into it.

[@ANDELE3025]

​@@charlyjordan3545 Using warp speech so powerful that it was/could have simply deleted the warp to knock someone on their ass is probably the most retarded way to wield such power. As said once before, using the reality warping to summon a tapdance show of by the C'tan crew would be less immersion breaking.

[@jacobfadipe3703]

I mean considering the crazy bs Eunica is shown to do honestly it makes sense why the Big E is obsessed with it, hell I'd be obsessed with it given half the crazy stuff its done

[@doubledeputyd4242]

John Grammaticus tried touching my Abacus.

[@isiahalcindor6278]

I couldn't keep him from my thesaurus

[@kingofsicily]

John Grammaticus taught the entire world to love again

[@Josco83]

My eyes roll into the back of my head every time I hit a John Grammaticus chapter. He’s like the sacrificial bad character Abnett has to keep alive so the rest of his writing can be good.

[@DisgruntledDepressed]

This 1000000000 %

[@captainsatire9628]

I got the same feeling with them as I did with Bran when reading Game of Thrones, every time met with the decision of "Do I just skip this? I know nothing THAT important is going to happen"

[@pedropierre9594]

Your rants are he best structured 40k rants on youtube, not one other channel gets to the bone marrow like you 💯

[@livefromtheblacklibrary]

THANKS MAN XD

[@fightforaglobalfirstamendm5617]

I agree strongly! He completely underminded Ollanius Pius plot arch and Ollanius's character in general.

[@EVER_PRINCE]

My favourite part about End and the Death Vol III is John’s fate Dude has to spend all of forever going through the locations of the heresy to make sure the future happens, which we know he does because the future present and past all occur. Meaning John did/is doing/and will do that forever.

[@katelawyer3689]

Nice

[@v02max75]

Erebus over John Grammaticus?! Good lord, you DO hate J.G.

[@Kaiserboo1871]

I can’t. I will always hate Erebus over JG.

[@rawrYou.]

3 minutes in and I can FEEL your passion on this topic lol

[@livefromtheblacklibrary]

I've been holding this in for a WHILE

[@arkhamfiller9884]

Kind of ironic that Oll dies the EXACT WAY you want John to doe lol

[@Aravaganthus]

"I want him backhanded into the next dimension" Horus did that to LE-2 and dude just walked back

[@karlwikman3874]

I'm genuinely convinced the normal human perpetuals in the Heresy were more pointless than The Furios Abyss

[@PinkyDink7]

Battle for the abyss was such a bad book. Felt so pointless. I regretted getting that book

[@Brandelwyn]

​@@PinkyDink7at least it wasn't about perpetuals

[@PinkyDink7]

@@Brandelwyn well true, they are pretty bland and boring. Sad how he went from an ok character to honestly the worst. Just badly wrote, all of them

[@sawysauce1256]

I gotta say going into this warhammer 40k lore video the last thing I expected to discover was that Martin Luther King was assassinated by time traveling aliens.

[@cousinzeke4888]

Ok, maybe aliens aren't so bad after all.

[@pale_lad1252]

@@cousinzeke4888huh

[@astral2282]

@@cousinzeke4888 …bro

[@cousinzeke4888]

​@@astral2282 He was a plagiarizer, communist, race hustler and quite possibly a rapist, fuck him.

[@HistoritorJimaldus]

He does do a Jedi mind trick in legion - when he’s discovered in Rhuksana’s quarters

[@MrManueldx]

I'm just John Freaking Grammaticus!

[@waterbottle1236]

The mass hatred of JG is creating a new chaos god.

[@CloudStrifeWon]

My first video of Chrono’s was about TEATD Vol. II and his rant about John Grammaticus in there reminded me of Kitten from TTS ranting about the Tau (which I loved). Glad he could finally get it all out lol

[@livefromtheblacklibrary]

PFFFTT LMAO, I’m honoured XD

[@frankiewilcox8062]

Ollie pearson was found on Calth, not on Terra, and made his way to Terra. So he did leave for a very long time. John brought him back into the war.

[@dantheman8235]

John frickin gramaticus

[@willpavin6171]

"John Grammaticus is love! John Grammaticus is life!" -The Emperor (probably)

[@blakel8121]

John grammaiticus is the person who rubs his hands together before he eats and allways declares "let's dig in guys".

[@thatotherchannel2740]

John grammaticus is what happens when josh Whedon writes warhammer

[@mokithepepe2454]

i am so mad about this, i am working through the horus heresy books and not made it to know no fear yet so i thought he died at the end of legion BUT NO HE IS STILL FUCKING ALIVE, his "death scene" at the end of legion was so fucking good

[@audiosurfarchive]

John Grammaticus is the type of fella to smell a pie 🥧 and float off the floor towards it, smelling with a whiff and saying: _"[snort] SMELLS GOOOOOOOOOO-OOOOOD."_

[@N0TYALC]

Ngl, I hated him after the shadow crusade and Legion, and I was kinda hyped when I found your channel and saw that I wasn’t the only one. But he kinda grew on me over the Siege of Terra. Not sure why.

[@livefromtheblacklibrary]

Stockholm Syndrome

[@NateCreed07]

​@@livefromtheblacklibrary😂

[@FearTheCaboose1337]

This is how I feel as well. In the seige (as far as I've read) he's doing well

[@highqualitycontentmaker6821]

"I love erebus" Opinion discarded instantly

[@xanmontes8715]

He loves the concept of Erebus, surely. Only a crazy person would love Erebus as a person.

[@alfredincognito7678]

Drinking game: take a shot everytime you hear "that being"

[@shadowrobot7708]

Perpetuals were a mistake. Yes even Vulcan being one sucks he didn't need to be.

[@Brandelwyn]

Completely agree. He should have been dead, but now hes just a stereotypical black dad

[@naamadossantossilva4736]

@maltheri9833 I am against the whole "no special powers" for a different reason.How do you live 30k years without picking some OP ability or advanced tech?

[@demonking86420]

But what about Big E and Malc

[@shadowrobot7708]

@@demonking86420 They both die and never really take advantage of the fact they can come back to life after dying so having them just not age after a certain point would have been fine.

[@spongebobsquarepants9146]

Fun fact, the reason Erabus is so nice to John isn’t because it is the will of the dark gods or whatever. It’s because he knows we hate him and finds that fucking hilarious

[@spaghettimkay5795]

My first exposure to John Grammaticus was in The First Heretic. In the middle of an extremely bleak, dramatic and dark audiobook, suddenly in comes some American guy who reveals he's a spy to Sairene, a space marine finds him and SETS HIM ON FIRE. And this guy starts making jokes about how he's never been burned to death before. Such a massive tonal shift and that voice really makes it bizarre.

[@bobdrenan4402]

He managed to go the whole way through this without even mentioning the time travelling eldar scissors of destiny.

[@renvaliaproject]

Once again, Chrono is based

[@livefromtheblacklibrary]

FGHJ THANKS REN

[@poundsofslothcigars]

JAAAAAHNN FREAKIN GRAMMMMATTTICUS!

[@calvinginn1637]

Holy shit, it's John Warhammer! I mean John Grammaticus!

[@v10l3t40]

Suprised during the Horus fight, Grammaticus didn't go "He's right behind me, isnt he?"

[@EngineerOfVaul]

"Oh, here's the video chrono kept saying he was gonna upload. What's the runti-45 MINUTES???"

[@StigPrice]

John was ok in legion and I geniuenly felt sorry for him because it was clead that he was never going to be allowed to rest in peace and would have to live to witness the results of his actions. Ive not read the siege of terra books yet so ill wait until after to watch this.

[@dimitarivanovski6322]

Hah, Johnny G sounds like Steven Seagal of 40k, playing Steven Seagal in a Steven Seagal movie

[@audiosurfarchive]

LOL

[@Volfenstein]

John and Draco sitting beside each other contemplating their massive self importance

[@shawnpleil4699]

John Grammaticus and the Cabal are the stupidest and most unnecessary things ever introduced into Warhammer 40k.

[@jefferymosdell2490]

It sounds to me like John Grammaticus would fit better in a setting like the fighting pits of Solaris 7 in BattleTech. He could annoy Duncan Fisher pretty well.

[@sybro9786]

I think John Grammaticus actually did the Jedi mind trick thingy in Legion, but certainly not on a space marine and it wasn’t permanent

[@Alchemic09]

I was first introduced to Grammaticus in legion, so I now understand why I view him so differently than you do 😂

[@notaproblem8097]

Same bro

[@xzenitramx666]

I was waiting for this.

[@livefromtheblacklibrary]

ME TOO MAN

[@Dwilson1282]

about Ol’ fighting in the unification wars, I got the impression from a few different stories that Ol’ is so old and has lived so many lives that sometimes he forgets large chunks of the past if he’s not actively working to remember.

[@Warlundrie]

If only John Grammaticus died at the end of the Legion book, it would fit his story so damn good and we wouldn't have to suffer the stuff he does afterwards as well.

[@DisgruntledDepressed]

The entire argonauts arc is sooo painfull

[@JD-td6oh]

Lol

[@brunoclement123]

John freaking Grammaticus

[@robertflynn4215]

He's like ciaphas cain but in reverse plot armor. Ciaphas cain see's john carmmaticus and how he serves the Imperium of man and the emperor. Ciaphas cain tell Jurgen to hold his beer. Same goes for Sebastian Yarick and gaunt. To show john carmmaticus how it's done right.

[@storkyfallout6516]

Ight so just finished binging the end and the death trilogy. Current time stamp is 00:00 I only know about his acts through this trilogy 00:03- the reason why the Emperor"could be interested in logokines is because of anuncia.

[@NotHere-o6s]

John Grammaticus is the 40k equivalent of Olaf form Frozen.

[@mranderson718]

I’m so glad Black Library decided to give Sanguinius’s death zero meaning, purpose, or effect on the story. Gives us way more time to focus on one of the worst characters.

[@tdpuuhailee8222]

WH40K unholy trinity of "Fuck x character" Leandros, John and Erebus.

[@xanmontes8715]

The Codex Astartes does not support this ac- Shut the f*ck up, Leandros! The Codex Astartes supports your mom being dead! Dead as hell! That's why your grandma ain't got no knees! She can't pray to the God-Emperor!

[@lemao2222]

As a Warhammer newbie I legit thought this was just a meme, but he’s actually a character. There is a mfer called John Grammaticus in Warhammer 40K. What the fu-

[@gr8m887]

Salamanders.... get the flamers. *THE HEAVY FLAMERS.*

[@Rapture-nv5vj]

SIR YES, SIR

[@bushsbakedbeans2348]

Heavy framers aren't even enough, get the multi melta

[@gr8m887]

@@bushsbakedbeans2348 empty out the armory

[@АлександраТк]

Summon the Exterminatus!

[@lordexohunter558]

Honestly, just blow up the sun just to be safe.

[@falainothiras6252]

19:50 To be fair, when captured by the Alpha Legion, the pet pyrokine that the Alphas have with him warns him not to use mind tricks because he will burn him immediately.

[@burgertime6372]

I cant take John Grammaticus seriously because his last name is so similar to “grammar”. Makes me think that in 40k people get called a “john grammaticus” instead of a grammar nazi

[@kbo8029]

THANK YOU! I utterly hated everything about his entire plot line. The character and the reason it was ever included is beyond annoying to me. Your comment about mortise was spot on. I forgot I read that book except remembering the scene you mentioned. I started skipping through any section with Grammaticus

[@inductivegrunt94]

In another life, John would be an Ultramarine. And no, not like Titus or Caede, he'd be more like Leandros... but even worse in every conceivable way.

[@dkcsi9256]

Leandros isn’t even a bad ultramarine. Bro did the right thing, just reported it to the wrong group. His suspicions are objectively warranted in the world. Everyone hates on the dude for being a snitch, same mfers wouldn’t be whining about erebus getting snitched on before the heresy happened.

[@LordyT34]

It just feels like he's really, really out of place. This is the Siege of Terra, possibly the most climatic event in the universes history but instead of focusing on, y'know, THE CHARACTERS WE ACTUALLY CARE ABOUT, nope we gotta focus on Warhammers Doctor Who

[@dangerousdays2052]

John Grammaticus is Dan Abnett's self-insert. No really, this isn't a joke. 🙄😭

[@chongwillson972]

2:40 he got killed by a car in 40k world...?

[@ELITE.__.]

I’m not gonna lie, volume 1 was the best and it went down hill from there. Especially with Horus vs the big E. Like the emperor literally didn’t do anything until he got the dagger