My Girlfriend Abandoned Me And Our Daughter 10 Years Ago And Now She's Back r/Relationships

[@MarkNarrations]

Not sure what happened to the video, published it. Came back an hour later and it was unlisted. Apologies people :)

[@elizabethescalante7866]

Ya know Mark, this story reminds me a hell of a lot of a Dr. Phil episode about a woman who was still hung up on her ex fiance even after he callously ditched her at the altar. She was STILL talking to him after that and her friends and family were telling her that he's not worthy. And the thing that finally got to her was what Dr. Phil told at the end, and it reflects exactly to this situation with this OP. (And don't worry, in an update she kicked him to the curb) But I think Dr. Phil said it best, which I added different things to speak to the OP here: "Now let me tell you I don't think you should make your decision based on what your friends or your family wants, cuz they're not going to go home with you at night, they're not going to live with you & your daughter and whoever you wind up with. However, I do think you should weigh carefully what they say. Because, unlike this runaway Mom, they're here! They do love you and your daughter & they do demonstrate that with consistency and predictability. I said "first off; who does this?!" Well, the person that does this kind of thing is someone who's emotionally under developed. They are someone who's emotional development is stunted at like 10-12 years of age. This is not someone that is emotionally mature. This is not someone that has empathy. Empathy being: the ability to put yourself in someone else's position and experience what the impact of something might be on them. And when you have somebody that doesn't have empathy, it's real hard for them to behave in a socially responsible way because they don't understand other people's feelings. So this is clearly an unempathetic person and unempathetic act that she's done. She didn't take your feelings into consideration or your child's feelings at all! Only her own. So do I think that she would marry you? I have no doubt about that, but it would be for selfish reasons. Because based on her past behavior, she's bound to repeat it the moment she gets bored with you and your child and just up and leave you again. And that would scar your daughter and you for life. And I can tell you this; I think if you go back and deconstruct your history with this individual, you're going to find this is NOT an isolated event. And you're going to be very disappointed and I think what you're doing is you are grieving the woman you WISH she was, Not the woman she IS."

[@jennilynne1977]

It's OK. Sh!t happens sometimes. We love you anyway. Peace, hugs and love to you and everyone else!

[@elizabethmorgan7794]

No apology needed, stuff happens. I just want to say, I find your voice soothing

[@AndyyWithAY]

Very presumptuous of Lucy to expect to be accepted back after abandoning her family. I smell narcissism

[@LunaMane]

I smelled exploitation myself. You know Lucy would just use the daughter as a prop piece and drain OP dry of all his resources. Likely using them to get with other guys.

[@arandomfan4710]

With a wiff of ignorance. She says he doesn't have a choice AS IF HES A CHILD.

[@lifewithlee6298]

And she jumped right to sex instead of saying she’d be a good mom. Clearly doesn’t get it 😢

[@arandomfan4710]

@@lifewithlee6298 I feel so bad for the daughter. She clearly only sees them as a backup plan and that vile.

[@LunaP1]

Narcissistic personality disorder and dissociative personality disorder combined has gives her the inability to feel guilt or remorse.

[@EluneAnzu]

Story 1: I always love when the absent parents act like they have any right to butt into the kids lives "you can't take away my daughter", lady you were gone for literally 2/3rds of that kid's life, don't act like you care about her now.

[@antithoughtpolice7497]

More than 2/3, 5/6. I don't count her while she was there, because she was cheating the whole time -_-

[@AmukaAkuma]

OP should just ask for 10 years of child support and interests. She will disappear real quick.

[@elizabethescalante7866]

This bitch reminds me VERY much of that ugly bird who was a bad mom in that Dr. Suesse book Horton Hatches The Egg. The story is similar to this scenario and has an obvious moral at the end.

[@KashyaCharsi]

People should lose parental rights even on paper if they disappear from their children's lives for long enough.

[@Davtwan]

She’s almost as bad as a drug addict. She’s hooked on needing thrills, adventure, and risk. I dread what she’d do if she ever enters a casino.

[@Tokuijin]

The fact that she cheated on the new dude is proof as to why Op should NOT take her back. Her punishment for stepping out is that she lives with her mistake.

[@zebnemma]

Yep. She was fine living that life for 10 years. The realization only hit her when she thought she was dying, alone, from Covid... Yeah people tend to become real suckers for making amends once they are dying don't they? If she truly cared she would have realized she fucked up waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay before 10 years like c'mon now... Her only reason for wanting to go back was because she was feeling sorry for HERSELF that she was dying alone and nobody would care if she was gone. Die alone you stupid cow that's what you deserve honestly!

[@elizabethescalante8114]

Ya know, given how high of a pedestal OP put this Lucy bitch on, I get the impression that she must have been his first romantic relationship. What do you think?

[@carlrood4457]

Stories like this always remind me of the episode of "The Fresh Prince of Bel Air" when Will's dad comes waltzing back into his life, makes a bunch of promises, and waltzes back out leaving Uncle Phil to pick up the pieces.

[@seshthecat]

I remember that episode making me cry because of uncle Phil stepping up to help Will.

[@DrewComika]

That scene still breaks my heart 😭

[@cynthiaholland13]

That Is still a tear jerker

[@AndyyWithAY]

I know why it triggered you. She abandoned "her" daughter for a random guy. You did everything. Pretty sure after 10 years her parental rights are terminated, but that may not be the case.

[@elizabethescalante7866]

Oh no, it is. In BOTH ways. She sacrificed that right to call herself her "mother" the day she up and left for the next decade. Emotionally AND legally, depending on the state or country.

[@AmukaAkuma]

It's quite easy, if she tries to push a claim, OP just presents a letter written by a lawyer demanding 10 years worth of back pay child support plus interest. She will crawl back to the sewer where she belongs.

[@twilightsparkle75]

@@elizabethescalante7866 she needs to be sued for child support!

[@natethegreat5220]

God i hope op did make sure he has sole custody of his child.

[@elizabethescalante7866]

@@twilightsparkle75 Hey, You're Right!! In the US, if the runaway parent in question hasn't made any contact or attempted to make any contact with the child for ONE year, then that means they forfeit their parental rights whether they want to or not. And this bitch took off on them and made no contact for 10 years! So in the US that means he's legally entitled to go after her for child support now that she's crawled out of hiding. Right? I'm not good with law.

[@Tyanna01]

Story 1: Lucy is doing the same thing as she did when she left OP and his daughter; she's looking for the excitement of the honeymoon period of a relationship. She's addicted to the chase of finding a partner and the honeymoon period that comes after...but then...it becomes routine. She doesn't want routine, she wants excitement. Lucy 100% would have left OP and his daughter again once the lustre and novelty of their new relationship wore off. She doesn't see OP and his daughter as people, but as prizes to be won. Relationships are toys to be discarded when a new one comes along. I'd be interested to hear how Lucy's parents are taking her being back.

[@lifewithlee6298]

Yeah , she only wants the thrill , no responsibility

[@Mew_Mokuba_Akari]

She might have stuck with him for financial security. Meanwhile to get her fix and the thrill of the chase she'd go behind OP's back and cheat on him. The thrill of dangling clues to her cheating while not giving it away would add to her fix

[@rosihantu1]

People are just means to an end for her. To be used and discarded once they are no longer useful to her needs.

[@dionysus_adores]

Some people are not good for a long term relationship (which is ok) what's not ok is constantly cheating and expecting to be taken back with open arms, so she can play happy family. Only then to pack up and hurt her partners and any kids she might have. It's fine if you don't want a relationship, but be an adult, end it properly and never go back.

[@carlrood4457]

@@dionysus_adores It's really two different things. People can be single by choice, be serial monogamists, or play the field. The point is to be honest with yourself and potential partners. Don't have kids if you can't sacrifice your thrillseeking.

[@paulastiles5507]

Story #1: Of course Lucy looked great when OP saw her again. I'll bet she dressed to the nines to draw him back in. Any port in a storm and all that. She says that she regrets what she did, but there's no evidence that she actually did. She actually said flat-out that "the best years of her life" were with the guy she cheated on you with, then she cheated on him, too. When told "no," she then ignored your boundaries and turned stalker. What you need, OP, is a restraining order and some therapy, both for you and your daughter. I seriously doubt your ex will ever get therapy. Self-reflection and accountability don't seem to be her thing.

[@KashyaCharsi]

She IS honest about only wanting a safe backup plan, she just thinks looks and sex can still get her everywhere with OP, too.

[@tallyp.7643]

she only regrets that the fun ended. She sounds like those folks addicted to the rush of new relationships and as soon as they fade a bit, starts looking for the next one. Makes sense with them getting shorter and shorter over time. Even the love of her family wasn't enough to keep her. She's not worth pursuing or keeping.

[@rebeccay480]

OP telling his ex off is sweet music to my ears. Slay King and protect your daughter!

[@AmukaAkuma]

Yes, she got a telling off, but otherwise got off scot free. OP is letting down his daughter, he should demand 10 years of child support plus interest, that should be enough for a nice college fund. But he wont, because he was/is a doormat. The only consolation is that the egg donor will now have to live with the consequences of her actions.

[@k3upikachu]

An old friend did this. She got pregnant while an addict, got clean for the pregnancy and motherhood, got married, had a second baby, and then disappeared to Miami to do drugs and party. She recently returned after five years and several arrests and is trying to befriend everybody again 🙄

[@cnow82]

Did her family and kids take her back? How are her kiddos doing?

[@k3upikachu]

@@cnow82 her kids have been living with their dad since then but I haven't kept up with him. I think she's allowed to see them but he's not taking her back. Before she disappeared to miami, she actually took her then-3y/o daughter with her to go on a drug binge and the cops had to get involved. So I don't think he'll ever let her be alone with them again

[@carlrood4457]

I hope OP realizes that "his Lucy" probably only ever existed in his mind. She was never a loving, loyal girlfriend or mother.

[@swearimnotarobot3746]

Does she also want to pay 10 years worth of backed child support?

[@antithoughtpolice7497]

Yeah, I'd say, "I only would know if you're serious about me if you did that." But I'm petty

[@AmukaAkuma]

It's amazing commenters ignore this. If the genders were reversed that would be the first thing they would encourage OP to do. But she will not be made to pay, OP is still a doormat. He should thank his lucky stars that the first affair partner, as far as we know, saved OP from being married to her. Back to the streets where she belongs.

[@gaxalee7392]

The only reason Op should take Lucy back is if he wants to destroy his daughter’s mental health because there’s no way someone willing to abandon a five year old for 10 years is going to treat them kindly.

[@Kati_P]

Becky and James need to figure out that Thanksgiving isn't all about them. If they need special accommodations for the ENTIRE holiday then they need to either host their own gathering or ask someone else in the family to host and they can help as they're able. I had hyperemesis gravidarum for my last 2 pregnancies, and it was hell. However, I never made demands for special accommodations other than asking that I be able to lie down on a quiet bedroom if needed. The holidays weren't all about me and my pregnancy. They were about the whole family. It's okay to make small requests if you're going to someone else's event, but it's NOT okay to try to hijack it and have it tailored to your specific requirements if it's going to ruin things for everybody else, unless it's an event planned around you specifically, such as your birthday party or baby shower. James and Becky have already started down the path of Entitled Parenthood. I hope they can correct their course before it's too late.

[@monicacurtis3986]

Story 2: I remember having smell sensitivities to seafood and poultry during both of my pregnancies. It sucked, but I didn't want to dictate everyone around me. When DH and I had dinner with MIL one time, she wanted to order the seafood bisque, but was worried about making me sick. I told her I appreciated her concern, but to go ahead. I just moved to the other side of the table so the smell wouldn't bother me. I'd also explain to friends that if I put my hand over my nose, they didn't do anything wrong, just my "stupid pregnancy nose". Being pregnant is not a free pass to get whatever you want!

[@carlrood4457]

I like to say most of us have to live in an off the rack world. We can make some alterations to make it fit better, but it can't be custom tailored to suit your every need and want.

[@laurabailey2092]

Bio kid, who is now 30, ruined perfume/cologne and alcohol for me to this day. All things that get things clean cannot have any scent too. Having a kid messes with our bodies and it’s not ok to place that on other people. I said bio kid as have 3 adopted humans.

[@user-wr3vt8uq4s]

I was put off from smoked oysters, which I previously loved. Even now, years later, I can't muster any enthusiasm to try. Some aversions are weird, but I certainly wouldn't make anyone else suffer for it.

[@AndyyWithAY]

It would be the biggest mistake of OP's life to let her back. She hasn't changed at all unless she's worse now. She is presumptuous and thinks she'll be accepted back, then when you don't immediately accept, she says she'll make you fall in love with her again. She's selfish through and through. It would be like cutting your skin and creating a new one where the old wound heals. Just don't.

[@Russman67]

Story 2: Honestly, OP did Becky a favor by allowing her not to show up. Given her requirements, she would have been completely uncomfortable in the environment. And she likely would benefit from the extra rest at home. NTA.

[@wessexdruid7598]

Loved the 'not an NPC' comment. 🙂

[@addicted2mako]

Relationships aren’t like books: you can’t just throw it on the ground and walk away for years, and expect to just pick up on the chapter where you left off. 10 years of absence won’t magically disappear just because Lucy decided to grace them with her presence. They’ve learned to live without her selfishness and they’ll continue to do so. Notice how Lucy’s response to OP saying it was up to their daughter to decide if she wants her mom back in their lives was “I’ll make you fall in love with me again.” She’s not even considering the relationship with her daughter in all these talks about wanting to come back because OP and his financial stability are her real target. She lost the right to call herself a mother when she tossed her child aside for some new guy. All she is at this point is an egg donor. That call-out speech was (Chef’s kiss)!

[@carlrood4457]

Note how she came back and said she's ready to get married now, after 10 YEARS!! That's a disconnect from reality that only the OP's unhealthy obsession with the image he had of her fed into. What if he'd been married or in a serious long term relationship when she showed up? She probably would have tried to get him to cheat

[@PrincessQ-fj9ly]

@@carlrood4457 And throw away the potentially sweet and loving wife for her, a literal dumpster fire?! As if! ಠ⁠︵⁠ಠ

[@fhuber7507]

OP's GF owes 10 years back child support. That's the minimum repayment.

[@owl7072]

Story 1: Girly insulted Op and abandoned her family for _10 years_ and just... expects to be let back in? Like, even if she came back _the next day_ rather than 10 years later she still wouldn't be allowed back in because she _still_ insulted Op in favor of her new boy toy and for _what?_ She sounds like a narcissist. Edit: "I'll make you fall in love with me again 😌" Yep, definitely a narcissist. Any love Op had for her began to wither and die the moment she said and did those things, in which she then proceeded to stomp on and grind them to dust then blew them away with a fan by coming back and talking about all the ✨️fun✨️ she had and essentially told Op that the _best_ years of her life _weren't with him._ But yeah, Op is _totally_ gonna fall in love with her again after all _that._ /s

[@michamocha]

It's the fact that Lucy didn't even give Op and their daughter a proper apology. She left them high and dry for excitement and fun, showed up to tell Op about all the fun she had and had the audacity to expect to be welcomed back with open arms. 10 years. She left for 10 years and didn't bother to come back until she realized she almost died alone. Op better not let her waltz back into their life because she doesn't show genuine remorse. She doesn't deserve her daughter or Op.

[@elizabethescalante7866]

This story reminds me of a similar story aimed at kids. Are you familiar with the Dr Seuss books?

[@samiulhuda4001]

those aside what does she have to offer him? maybe if she has money? if he has no self respect he can build a relationship on that/? i mean her personalty is garbage. shes a dried up old wh*re. he should get some one better IE younger and nicer

[@user-mAfuNqrSe020x]

Ngl, im kinda mad and frustrated at op. He just seems so stupid. I've helped my brother in similar situation but he's smart enough not to allow his ex to waltz in and even filed for restraining order. I know love is complicated, but you need to be firm and not let people hurt you again and again.

[@user-wr3vt8uq4s]

Lucy didn't even ask about the daughter until OP brought it up. Her child is an afterthought. Heck, they both are. Stay away from her like she's plutonium.

[@Tiger54658]

That second meeting the OP had with Lucy was the exact thing he needed to see the woman in front of him was no longer the woman he'd first fallen in love with. He doesn't miss Lucy, he misses the memory of who Lucy was before because that woman no longer exists. This is someone entirely different now and it can never be how it was before. After his blowup about her no longer being their child's daughter, it sounds like he truly sees her as the monster and shell she's become.

[@carlrood4457]

More likely, she never existed in the first place and he ignored a lot of red flags and created an image in his head.

[@Tiger54658]

@@carlrood4457 Also incredibly possible and he's only now finally seeing the dark parts she initially managed to keep much more hidden because she didn't need to 'win' him when they'd met.

[@Weirdandwonderfull19]

If you want excitement and thrills, go skydiving or bungee jumping, don't cheat on your partner 🙄. Glad OP ditched the toxic ex, well done to him for showing his spine and protecting his daughter from the cruel and selfish egg donor.

[@PrincessQ-fj9ly]

Yeah. OP's a good man and a strong man. A weaker man would've buckled, especially when offered sex.

[@coreymartin6486]

Even before the last meeting, when she was in his apartment, I was thinking about the lack of emphasis from her about the pain she caused others. It was all about what she liked and wanted.....not about others. The 2nd meeting solidified it. Yeah, absolutely don't get back together.

[@SilverstreamPJ28]

Story 1: This woman chasing "excitement" sounds like a 15 year old. She wants her family to be exciting, and once routine settles in, she'll leave and destroy her daughter all over again. She's a full on raging narcissist. Edit: I'm so tired of armchair psychologists diagnosing BPD 🙄

[@khaleesireyna731]

Well, honestly, narcissistic traits and borderline traits (while not any kind of diagnosis) are a lot more common than people realize and so many abusive people display these traits: internal hostility, lacking in empathy, selfishness, valuing then devaluing people... a lot of emotional abuse stems from those behaviors, so yeah everyone can call a spade a spade. Whatever she is, Lucy is toxic and OP honestly should slap her with back paid child support... bet she'd lose interest in "trying to be a family again" real quick at that.

[@juanhaines7295]

Story 1 I heard this like an hour ago. Good on op not simping. As a wise man once said. You either choose me or you lose me. Plus what he said in the update was real. She's no mom. She's an egg donor at best.

[@janiceandthomas]

Same, and still gonna listen to it again here. Always enjoy hearing Mark's opinions and whatever comments he mentions

[@Mewse1203]

Lg?

[@janiceandthomas]

@@Mewse1203 Yup, LG

[@AmukaAkuma]

But he is still a doormat, why did he not pursue her for child support. The average man would be hounded by the system and threatened with jailtime, rightfully so. But she got to have her "freedom".

[@TheodoreBotman]

He sounded like he was gonna simp out during the first part and just embrace her back without a care in the world.

[@jerriewyatt905]

Story 2… Why should everyone else have to sacrifice their Thanksgiving meal , etc. because of one pregnant woman..SIL should have volunteered to stay home because she can’t handle the smell or anything else.. it wasn’t up to the whole family to give up their day up for her!

[@birdley9577]

Why is it, that people who want other people to compromise, never compromise.

[@sharosudo]

I'm currently pregnant, and I could never imagine making those demands. I would stay at home and have my own tiny Thanksgiving.

[@Mewse1203]

Story 2: NTA There's only one person unreasonable in this story and that's the pregnant lady who thinks she gets to tell everybody else what they get to eat or drink or do because she is pregnant. Her husband can make those choices but she doesn't get to destroy Thanksgiving for an entire family because she got pregnant. Brother has a lot of nerve to say that OP was ruining their Thanksgiving when they tried to literally ruin everybody elses. This was literally some "I cant have fun so no one else can either" nonsense.

[@Symos]

OP, if you read this, you and your daughter are not consolation prizes. You both deserve much better.

[@Sushi_Cat2793]

WE SALUTE OP IN STORY 1 GO ON BUDDY!! YOU’RE DOING REALLY GREAT!! THIS DUDE IS MAKING INCREDIBLE PROGRESS!! I hope him and his daughter’s therapy goes well and they are all fine for the future!

[@dillongage]

No. OP would have taken her back without hesitation if not for his daughter. OP is a simp, and will always be a simp.

[@AndyyWithAY]

Story 2 these accommodations are not acceptable. It's insanely entitled for her to expect the whole evening to be changed for her. If you require all of that, why would you even want to come anyway? They should have offered to host. OP really went above and beyond. NTA

[@autumn557]

It’s amazing how many people think the world literally stops for them

[@stoopingfalcon891]

"Just a memory of what I thought she was". That is so heartbreaking.

[@tracicolvis7382]

2nd story: when did it become that pregnant women (and their partners) think the whole world should cater to them just because they're knocked up?? Unless it's a high risk pregnancy (which is more on the potential parents to manage for the most part), I don't see how this way of thinking has come about. I've been pregnant (twice, although I sadly lost my first) and I expected no one to adjust for me.

[@madambutterfly1997]

She doesn't get to just drop in 10 years later and play Mommy

[@peteranon8455]

Taking back someone who abandoned you for 10 years is a special kind. You'll mess up your daughter, and the only thing you're getting is the same woman who's been through 100 different men since 10 years ago.

[@Mewse1203]

Story one: run run run run. Edit: I'm glad he ran ran ran ran

[@ShadowbirdX24]

story 1: its very telling that Lucy said "those were the best yrs of her life"& "sometimes she thought of her family"...she thought of her daughter "sometimes" in 10 yrs.Lucy isnt a mother, shes a genetic donor, sorry but she left you once, she'll will leave you again.

[@ElleD308]

She cheated on you, left you and your baby, HER baby. Cheated on every single human she's been with... then came back after years, literally told him how she needs to keep seeking the thrill, and OP is thinking about being with her?? Let his daughter be near her?! Fuck up his daughter's security and love because ex looks more beautiful? OP's lack of spine, dignity, self-respect, and respect for his daughter are nauseating. I rather never have children than see my child grow up and turn into someone like OP.

[@Loaves_of_Cat]

Story 2: op should ask his mom and brother if they know what the definition of “compromise” is That or tell them that the world doesn’t revolve around a woman’s pregnancy and if sil hates it so much, they can set up their own thanksgiving dinner in their own house. That or sil can just sit out of the playing if she needs her “precious” rest time so much.

[@lalvarez5151]

Story 1- Lucy:" I've cheated in ever relationship I've been on, but I want to get back together with you" Nah....dude

[@terrencemcgrone8053]

You have to think of your self when someone trying to leave your life let them go. This woman told you that she had the best time of her life with this man and she cheated on him and you have to remember that she cheated on you. Let her be happy by her self you owe it to your self to make your self happy.

[@wessexdruid7598]

" _I didn't recognize that woman. She wasnt the amazing girl that I met, she wasnt the mother of my daughter, I don't know who that woman was, but she wasnt my Lucy._ " But that's just it - she NEVER was. She was always just a chameleon, but now you see her true self.

[@Iflie]

If you can't enjoy thanksgiving dinner at all, don't come, no playing games for anyone? How can anyone think that's a reasonable request? If you are that sick you can't travel I'd think. maybe that's what she wanted anyway and this way the only way she could do it without being blamed. These days she could just facetime in, no smells, sound off button, sleep when she needs it.

[@JasperCatProductions]

Oh my word this woman thinks that in 10 years you hadn’t moved on? I would laughed in her face and been done with it. Your daughter is 15 she is old enough to chose to see this horrible person.

[@Can_think_of_a_name]

Story 1: What a vile lady, poor OP

[@Donald43]

Story 1 is like that advert, dogs aren't just for Christmas. The same applies to relationships.

[@andreasrechtenwald1863]

Story 2 -- Well , for me this is´nt Thanksgiving , that is the dance around the golden hind by the whole family -- As she demand.

[@glendastaples8206]

Having that last talk with Lucy was actually probably the best thing that could have happened. Getting slapped with the reality of the true Lucy will help him move past her pretty quickly during his therapy.

[@LightSage89]

I feel like the OP's ex sees him as a new and exciting thing, and she will 100% take off as soon as regular life becomes boring again.

[@kuno3336]

1st! Op's ex is a scumbag

[@NightShrowd717]

Omg that last story. I'm currently pregnant with my second and would never be that crazy. Also something I noticed that wasn't brought up since there was mention of other children present, were the other mother's this demanding, I assume not.

[@MrSammybucca]

She goes out and gets pipped down by randoms for 10 years then expects to walk back in. The entitlement is unreal lmfao

[@Bweyg]

I would have (tried) to sued her for billions of dollars after what she did, she is a cruel woman who does not deserve anything except 25 years of prison.

[@bloonh8tr619]

Thanks for the upload Mark. Late but congrats on passig 100k subs. Hope you get your silver play button

[@MarkNarrations]

I have a box which I suspect may be it! But need to get around to opening it :) Thank you so much Bloon for the constant support!

[@amazinglynn]

@@MarkNarrations you should do an unboxing video!

[@seshthecat]

Story 1 OP would have taken her back if it wasn't for his daughter speaking up.

[@jackietennant8061]

There's Bridezilla and now a Pregasaurous! Wanting everything their way because...I'm Pregnant!

[@throwawayaccount9150]

Story 1: Lucy really tried to get back into OP's life expecting the outcome of a really bad romance Hallmark movie 😒

[@kee-ta3487]

Story 2: baked goods used to make me feel sick when I was pregnant. I learned to put mint under my nose. I can't imagine telling other people what they can and can't do just because I chose to be pregnant. I didn't even like them telling me to sit down when I wanted to stand during my pregnancy, 😂😂. Women really need to stop being selfish when they get pregnant. Especially if they ever want a babysitter later don't burn the bridge before the baby comes 😂😂😂🤣🤣

[@khaleesireyna731]

I can't help but think there are people who are actually really selfish and self-centered, but they keep it in check for awhile, but then one big life event for them happens (like getting married or having a baby) and the self-centered attitude they've hidden pretty well comes out because they feel that that life event is their excuse. As I like to say "there's you... and then there's a lot of other Non-you people around. They also have life events and stuff going on".

[@kee-ta3487]

@@khaleesireyna731 that's the thing we all have a sob story or our cross to bare. Bottom line treat others how you want to be treated so on the days that you are going through something there are people to be nice to you. Getting pregnant or other life events should he a blessing not a chance to be mean to those that you claim to love. It's not a purge moment it's a time to be even nicer to people.

[@Erikafman]

”I’m changed now”, like yeah you are even worse

[@catharsismemory]

S1. She loves excitement and empty thrills, when she gets bored again she'll leave again. There's nothing that can fill the void she has in her.

[@ihatemymeds]

"Just a memory of who I thought she was" Oooo chills. I like this phrase. I'm not that poetic so I would have just said she was a cow. Lol

[@GMWILD87]

Story 2 assuming that Becky posted the demands in the family chat how did the demands go for the other family members who would be forced to eat an alternative meal if they came at all because they wouldn't want to abide by the ridiculous rules set forth by someone not even hosting .

[@elizabethescalante8114]

Is it me, or does anyone else think of the Dr. Seuss book Horton Hatches The Egg and how that story speaks to a situation like this?

[@kbf9644]

Last story: Don’t you dare “make amends”. That’ll be red to a bull as far as SIL, Brother and Mom are concerned. The moment you apologize in any capacity for not catering to their ridiculous demands is the moment they’ll know they can break you if they just freak out enough and get enough family/societal pressure on you to get you to break. NTA and stand your ground on their entitled nonsense.

[@shadowshoganyt3438]

Cheaters will be cheaters, the fact that she cheated on the new guy shows she can't change, people like this really don't deserve to be parents. What a garbage horrible human being

[@hicknopunk]

Don't let her back in!!! Don't. Don't please. She will not change for real. Added: oh man, really, really don't let her in. More: run, run, run!

[@melosidhe779]

Never trust a cheater. They don't change and they aren't worth your time or energy

[@A_Borden_History]

Lucy is literally the epitome of a backstabbing manipulator, She abandoned her child and fiancée for a fling

[@spykewyn8395]

"Thanksgiving turkey alternative" is called "ham" 😂

[@rebajoe]

Story 1: Ex is flaky and is when she said: "You can't take MY daughter away from me!" I could feel ops rant half a mile away, I knew it was coming. Story 2: At Op tried to give a little wiggle room, what did Becky do? No matter what wont even budge. (Not a pregnant thing but this Thanksgiving me and my brother went to our sisters for dinner, now he's autistic and won't eat certain foods so we had him pack one of his oven pizzas just for him)

[@singingwordwright148]

Haven't gotten to the Story 1 update yet, but my first thought is that Lucy has a ton of medical bills from her bout of COVID, and/or is partially or totally disabled by long COVID, and wants a meal ticket or someone to dump the debt on.

[@singingwordwright148]

Story 2: What is it with people that think the whole world needs to bend to their whims because they're pregnant? Sure you can be princess for a day at a shower or even two if you have that large a social circle, but then get over yourself, you're neither the first person to carry a fetus nor will you be the last. And yes, I have been pregnant and given birth. I spent literally five days in labor that kept stalling once it finally got going, including one long night where I stayed up alone, walking circles around the house, sometimes weeping in pain and weariness, while trying to get a good labor pattern going, while my spouse got some sleep and I deliberately didn't wake them because I knew they would need to be rested to support me when the show finally hit the road. And you know what? Through all of that, when I had a craving, I got off my ass and went to the drive thru or the store. When someone cooked something that turned my stomach, I went into another room and closed the door. The closest I even came to donning a tiara was making my spouse clean the litter box (because it's medically recommended) and requesting my spouse get me a Coke from McDonald's after the birth because by then I'd been low-carb for eight weeks to manage gestational diabetes. If I'd ever tried to pull the demanding princess routine at a family holiday, my family's laughter and derision would still be ringing in my ears by the time I made it back home, some 2000 miles away. That said, I will admit my odor sensitivities weren't as terrible as a lot of others have described, and my heart goes out to people who DO struggle with it. However, I once almost got sick in the produce section of the market because apparently produce has an odor? Who knew? Something no one ever warned me about was the idea that your gag reflex can become really trigger-happy. If I kept ANYTHING in my mouth for very long, I could be in trouble. I made myself sick take my prenatal vitamins. I made myself sick brushing my teeth (many times.) I made myself sick MAKING MY BED by holding the edge of a pillow between my teeth to pull a pillowcase on. Pregnancy is no joke, yo. Still, no pregnant person is entitled to declare everyone else has to suffer along with them.

[@PrincessQ-fj9ly]

Pregnancy doesn't make you all that special. Pregnancies happen all over the world. And many pregnant women don't use their pregnancies to boss others around. I agree on accommodations but only if they're REASONABLE. And I can definitely understand wanting your husband/boyfriend to be as accommodating as possible, but I don't agree with putting up with mistreatment or abuse because your wife/girlfriend is pregnant.

[@madambutterfly1997]

DON'T TAKE HER BACK!!!!!

[@hicknopunk]

Make salmon, pickled mackerel and durian casserole! Offer haggis as an alternative.

[@heatherdickau5335]

Last story It is good SIL showed her true self before the baby was born. Now, she has learned that the family will stand up to her crazy. Hopefully, that lesson will be remembered when she is crazy with the baby. But I doubt it.

[@fcold9402]

Thanksgiving. If you get sick at the smell of thanksgiving food then you should bow out of thanksgiving not tell everyone else to change.

[@ace_pro_gamer1]

You need to read the update to the first story it’s so satisfying

[@James-sq4sc]

Lol OP’s gf comes back into his life and essentially says “ hey! I’m a garbage person and did all this horrible stuff, love cheating and had a great time without you but my own mortality made me scared of dying alone. Please take me back”

[@carlrood4457]

My only question is how did the OP get from "no poultry" to vegetarian? Ham is somewhat common on Thanksgiving, as well. I get she already ordered the turkey and don't think she should have had to change, but I'm just wondering about the jump from poultry to vegetarian came from. OP mentioned other children at the party, so presumably this isn't the first pregnancy in the extended family.

[@astronautviolet153]

story: 1 I bet if Op was remarried with a wife and new child, she would not be knocking on the door. And it's just hurting a daughter.

[@monkey-man7430]

No she 100% would still try to get back

[@broken_queer_but_fighting8589]

36,233 minutes of podcast from my spotify rewind thanks for having it on spotify

[@AlanGChenery]

Story 1: Played the Strumpet. Hit the wall. Came running back. Total user best, kept well clear of.

[@dillongage]

You know Future would say; If she cheats, she belongs to the streets

[@επιθετικόακτινιδιο]

St1: OP REALLY needs to put a lot of work in therapy. He is in love with love. This makes him delusional, naive and the possible victim in any future relationship How can he ask Lucy if she loves him when she specifically pointed out before he leaves him that she doesn't love him, she was lying to him and she doesn't want to be with him? Like how?? I don't have much faith in him that he will stick to his decision in never being involved with thus monster

[@lovevamp5446]

Story 2 NTA. Yeah some adjustments with food (like an extra dish) should be made because there are some foods that a pregnant woman isn't allowed to eat. But that woman was unreasonable to demand for a whole group of people to adjust to her needs. It didn't sound like she wanted a party, she wanted a funeral.

[@rebajoe]

Why not? She was already planning on killing the mood.

[@MrFashionchick]

As someone with BPD, that comment in story one is not it. People treat people with BPD like we're monsters and do things like this where when someone in a story is a bad person who did bad things, they slap the BPD label on it and call them crazy and tell everyone to run from them. The remarks about how we can't have any healthy relationships, that we're empty shells of human's, that we can't connect with people. Those comments are dehumanizing and disgusting and perpetuate a very very harmful stigma towards people with BPD. Stigma like this also very commonly bleeds into the mental health profession as well, with a good number of therapists and psychiatrics refusing to work with people with BPD because of those negative stigmas. No hate to you Mark, but next time when including comments with those online speculating about someone having a mental illness, please take a moment to really read the comment and see if it is portraying people who have the disorder in a strictly negative light. Comments like these are really damaging and also painful to read.

[@halla3184]

I don't even have the condition and felt that comment was a stretch. If I was to armchair diagnose I would have gone for narcissism or even sociopathy long before thinking BPD. One of my closest friends has it, though it is well managed with therapy and medication, and they are one of the sweetest, kindest, most selfless people I have ever met. I won't stand for this nasty stereotyping

[@bcamplite621]

I felt dirty just listening to that first story. Imagine the entitlement.

[@hopeoldham5040]

Last story, sounds like an excellent candidate for entitled parents a few years down the line...

[@paulchaudoir190]

If OP lives in the states he needs to check the laws of his state. In some states if either parent abandons their family for a year or more without communicating they no longer are a legal parent to the children.

[@scottyshields9876]

Great reading as always!

[@Detector1977]

s1: the PERFECT example why bodycount mattters. The mental damage and the baggage it creates is HUGE. Lucy is not and will never be wife material. She is a modern selfish woman who only cares about her and having fun and get plowed by Chad. She'll end up alone after a few hundred guys have had enough of her.

[@Mammongus]

My mom and I found out we both listen to your stories! Thank you for giving us something special to enjoy.

[@DFullerLisa]

Pregnant lady. The family can reserve a block of time to meet her needs so she can be a part of it. They dont have to follow the entire day for her. However, there is no meat on Thanksgiving? No alcohol? Thats like Thanksgiving.

[@destinedtogame]

If people can't handle not handling booze, they're alcoholics.

[@4BWVan]

Story 2: welcome to Becky's Karen origin story 😬😭🤣

[@Hope-md3fb]

Justt onnn timeee. You’re the best KZbinr Mark. ❤

[@MarkNarrations]

Aww Hope that's very kind of you

[@halfdemonamanda]

What does the SIL in story 2 think will happen when the baby comes? They'll follow a rigid schedule set by her, and do only the things she wants them to do? Not happening. I'm sure she's gonna be a super good mother 😂

[@robertx8020]

A mother w/o most of her family if she keeps this up

[@khaleesireyna731]

In all seriousness, yeah probably. I've seen enough entitled people (sadly I'm related to some of them) and honestly, it doesn't surprise me anymore. Entitled people really just think everything needs to cater to them.

[@dlpacres4718]

When Mark said "psycho pregzilla" I thought it at the exact same time. LOL

[@SteveMichael]

Story 2. We hosted Thanksgiving for quite a few years. We had around 20 to 25 people show up to our house over the years and we bought almost all of the food and drinks. We didn't mind and had 2 to 3 dogs at the time. Some of these dogs were not super friendly and we put them up in a kennel over Thanksgiving. The cost of this is not trivial. I mention this because a couple of times we had people ask to bring their dog. Now we freaking love dogs. At one time we had 5 dogs, 4 of which were rescue and or abandoned at the time. We told them that not everyone liked dogs and that we put ours up in a kennel to respect that. In short please don't bring your dog. They said something like "Could we just let our dog in your backyard, as it is fenced?" I said no, again the weather can be nasty and we put our dogs up in an kennel. I mentioned I understood if they couldn't attend and I get it. Dogs are a big responsibility. They agreed.... and then brought their f'ing dog. I was a bit pissed but they just left their dog in the car, which made me angry also but the weather wasn't horrible for a dog. We then had something happen similar another Thanksgiving and I had to be more blunt and say that no dogs are allowed. In a car outside or whatever, do not bring your dog, cat or other animal with you. People were pissed. I just showed them the amount we paid for the food and the cost of the shelter for our 2 dogs for the day. This actually shut them up and people started to say that they had no idea how much food cost. I had to laugh, because did they think feeding 25 people was like free? Putting your dogs in a kennel over Thanksgiving weekend is cheap? Now we have one dog, and she is super nice. Ironically she is supposedly a mean bread but she loves humans. Humans.... you see she will try and kill any other animal in our yard or house. I say try as she is only around 50 pounds and a bit on the heavy side, so taking down a squirrel or rabbit is one thing, but a larger dog probably wouldn't happen. Now it is a bit easier as we can and do just say that our dog will try and kill any other animal, so do not bring one. Granted this hasn't been an issue for years.

[@egalitarian2207]

On the BPD comment - Lucy very well may have BPD. But I want to give love to my BPD people out there. It’s not an easy disorder, and it’s literally trauma based. Breathe, know that you are valid, try DBT, be mindful of your intensity. Much love to everyone.

[@egalitarian2207]

BPD has been really hard for me and people I admire. I just don’t want it to be completely stigmatized as “bad person doing risky things = borderline”