METALCORE IS BACK, BABY! (but...)

[@ThePunkRockMBA]

Come hang out on Twitch! www.twitch.tv/finnmckenty

[@papigordo2589]

Ummm Ronnie was escape the fate before falling in reverse

[@espertalhao041]

Eskimo Callboy changed name 2 weeks ago (a week before the video) to Electric Callboy. kzbin.info/www/bejne/aaqzZHicbs-KodU

[@JonasMoore-b6v]

Hey I'm 43 and I love music that teenagers are into , I have Autism so I'm very much like a 17 year old trapped in a close to middle aged man's body , so I hope you'e not judging older people who like music that younger people are into

[@FromAshesToNew]

The revival is strong and just beginning…buckle up Finn 🤘🏼🔥

[@gravityshifter]

Buckle up FINN

[@mmf-rules]

You're part of modern metal recognition 🤙

[@idonotexist_]

Finn is already buckled up with the anal beads in. Wait, what was I supposed to do again...?

[@combatcarl]

I'm seeing you guys everywhere live your stuff!

[@adventurercj6333]

I love you guys since we saw you open for Ice Nine Kills on the Silver Scream Tour.

[@LEGiTdistortion]

Noah from Bad Omens is so fucking good. Saw them open for Ice Nine Kills and was sold the moment he hit the stage. Definitely excited to see more from them in the future.

[@Balnazzari]

same here. had never listened to Bad Omens before and went to see INK back in December and fell in love with the band's style

[@sicknasty3565]

Same here I only heard like one song and didn't think much of the.. then I saw them open for INK in November and was shook. I've since added more of their songs to my playlist

[@billkersten1867]

Their new album is awesome!!! It’s like The Weeknd meets metalcore…

[@Surokkh]

Noah is one-of-a-kind for me. How often do you see so much talent, taste and versatility in a guy? I adore everything Bad Omens do and pray to see them live eventually

[@OGA-b4l]

Noah's voice is god-like

[@confusedturtle55]

I really think the DOOM soundtracks are gonna make a notable new generation. It's introduced SO many people to that style of music and that eventually leads everyone to getting used to the vocals

[@bella_trixx6589]

The new MIW song Cyberhex has that vibe, I was HONESTLY shocked Mick Gordon wasn't involved in that production

[@nickrickert3109]

There really isn't another album that does Doom music with vocals justice other than Alien from Northlane

[@Null041]

@@bella_trixx6589 according to the new albums track list he does feature on a different track so he definitely influenced them

[@unshakensalsa6220]

Doomcore I guess?

[@TaylorDezzy]

I got into metal from the Zombies soundtrack, like beauty of annihilation and 115

[@ZeriaeI]

Bad Omens goes HARD, their new album has become a quick favorite and is personally a no-skip album.

[@axiom.ai.obviousbattletank7139]

1 yr later. You still feel the same?

[@ZeriaeI]

@@axiom.ai.obviousbattletank7139 absolutely. i still listen to those songs almost daily

[@左idari]

Metalcore is always in my heart, no matter how old I get.

[@Koders333]

Never too old to listen to metalcore. I’ll be 80 and still listening to the genre.

[@mynameislove1704]

Metalcore is my number 2 and number 1 probably Deathcore

[@azure8696]

Same here and let's be honest, all music is marketed towards younger people anyway, so it doesn't really matter what you like as long as you're enjoying it.

[@777666hxc]

Metalcore is my first dip into musiccc

[@thelastdaybreathinginetern1385]

Pokemon and metalhead for 19 years.

[@canadianmtb2575]

I saw INK, MIW and BVB yesterday night and the venue was absolutely packed, great to see that it’s still this big

[@Thuperdude2]

Saw them in witchita a few days ago, it was great

[@RobSTAR_IV]

Jealous!!!

[@Mass-produced]

Love them all!

[@xanderxns8427]

I'm seeing them in two weeks!

[@jojoversus1100]

I remember seeing BVB open for William Control back in 2010. I was the only guy in the crowd lol. Andy tried to jump into the crowd for a minute but the girls completely obliterated his shirt & were literally clawing at his skin. I literally had to grab him & help him back onstage (he's TINY). He was really nice about it later too. They're all super nice humble dudes. Back then they were still a small band too, so it was cool seeing a band like that in a tiny venue before they really hit BIG. I dont like BVB music per say, but they are nice dudes. & the guitarists are no joke. A7x levels of shred.

[@MonumentOfAMemory]

Metalcore is one of those genres that has keeps evolving with the times. They say trends run in 20 year cycles. I truly believe the genre will never really just die. The appeal of metalcore is how versatile of a genre it is, it can reach into alot of different audiences, it's an aggressive style of music combined with catchy melodic choruses and passages. I see people who aren't particularly huge fans of metal with atleast a couple metalcore songs in their gym playlists. Its interesting to see metalcore acts flirting with mainstream. It's overall good for us and the genre.

[@metalboy6094]

It doesn‘t evolve that much…

[@thecreatedvoid117]

I think it’s more accurate to say that there are a lot of sub genres within metalcore, which makes it more likely to acquire a wider audience. Some weighing on the melodic side, some on the more hardcore side, some being more metallic. Metalcore is honestly too wide at times, imo, as some of the bands sound NOTHING alike lol

[@DragonKnightX12]

@@metalboy6094 You say that, but it's gone for a lot of changes. It started as Hardcore bands with some Metal elements like Converge, Earth Crisis, and Hatebreed. Then we had late 90's early 2000's bands mixing Hardcore and Melodic Death. Like Killswitch, As I Lay Dying, All that Remians...etc We also had bands mixing in post-hardcore like Silverstein, Underoath, and Dance Gavin Dance. Then Easycore like A Day To Remember and Chunk! No,Captain Chunk! About 2007ish Attack! Attack! came alonng and changed it again with Crabcore. About 2010 Djent/Progressive Metalcore started blowing up. Around 2015 the Nu-Metalcore and Buttrockcore started and has taken over scene now.

[@metalboy6094]

@@DragonKnightX12 Yes, the pre genres of metalcore evolved a lot, and it was an impressive step from hardcore to metalcore, but after that not much happened with the cores.

[@confusedturtle55]

It's interesting to see that over the years honestly almost all of the DNA from old extreme metal and hardcore are basically gone in a lot of places. Metalcore is kinda just the word for modern metal that isn't in a traditional genre at this point

[@LukeDuckHypertrophy]

Sleep token, loathe, vein, and knocked loose are killing it recently, I hope we get more bands like them soon.

[@mynameislove1704]

Not a fan of Sleep Token & Loathe cause it's too boring to me but fuck yes Vein & Knocked Loose slaps hard🔥🔥

[@LukeDuckHypertrophy]

@@mynameislove1704 to each their own bro 🔥 if you haven’t listened to Calcutta I totally recommend it or gods, both by sleep token. I think I appreciate them because they have a melodic, emotional tone which I love in music.

[@LukeDuckHypertrophy]

@@mynameislove1704but vein, my god shit is unmatched, untitled into end enteral will forever be my favorite

[@mynameislove1704]

@@LukeDuckHypertrophy Yes bro I also love the melodic side of metalcore but not really a fan. I think Killswitch is the perfect example of that cause they're heavy but at the same time has really catchy and melodic chorus

[@LukeDuckHypertrophy]

@@mynameislove1704 that’s funny, I always thought killswitch was boring, I was more into 36 crazy fists

[@sweetgregt]

Once Sharptone came into existence, metalcore really started thriving again. That label is key to this new wave of breakout bands. Was around 2017 or so when that roster really started growing and we got some big releases from Emmure, Loathe, While She Sleeps, Miss May I, Currents, Polaris, WCAR.

[@ThePunkRockMBA]

Great label!

[@stuballingerart]

Sharptone and Out of Line are my go-to labels nowadays.

[@tarmandolam]

Don't forget Crystal Lake and Atilla

[@shona5512]

Arising Empire are doing great work for the good of Metalcore too. Aviana, LANDMVRKS, Imminence, Novelists, Resolve etc. Lots of good artists out there.

[@thefundamentalelementsoffr4823]

lets not forget UNFD, with bands like Northlane, Erra, Thornhill, Hollowfront, Sleepwaker, Invent Animate etc...

[@adamtaylor5274]

Bad Omens is my new favorite band. Finally saw them with Spiritbox and Underoath and was blown away. They're incredible!

[@Johan12359]

Same. Their live production was probably the best stuff I've seen at any show and I was hooked

[@adamtaylor5274]

@@Johan12359 Their mix compared to Spiritbox (the only band I was there to see) was far, far superior. I know it's not entirely the responsibility of the bands to mix correctly, but there's was darn impressive.

[@LordWafflestomp]

I was supposed to go to the show in Cleveland and ended up not being able to go 😫

[@eugenemetayhas]

Same holy crap their sound and visual production is phenomenal. Super impressed with them and can't wait until they go on a headline tour for their new album.

[@MayonnaiseOreo]

@@adamtaylor5274 Yeah I didn't think Spiritbox was very good when I saw them in Silver Spring. Boring vocals and every song was too samey with Courtney just kind of crooning the whole time. Bad Omens and Underoath killed it on the entertainment front.

[@Thatgamerpunk]

pop-punk, metalcore, and deathcore. it's the 00's all over again + 808's and it's beautiful haha.

[@jomitchell6064]

And we just got a new jackass movie lol

[@nocturnalfolf6097]

808s need to be thrown in the fire already

[@PayneWewton]

@@nocturnalfolf6097 Nah son.

[@cantkillcliffrose]

@@PayneWewton in guitar music, absolutely. But I assume you're 12.

[@darksu6947]

@@cantkillcliffrose I'm 12 and a half! Thank you very much!

[@bigpancakeguy12]

Bad Omens and Ice Nine Kills give me a lot of hope for the genre as a whole to continue growing. They’ve both found unique sounds in a genre that’s easy to be stagnant and repetitive, and Bad Omens in particular has a poppy enough sound to appeal to fans outside of metalcore or rock. Loved this video, and agreed with pretty much every point you made

[@holden9278]

I absolutely love Bad Omens, The Death of piece of mind is pretty close to a masterpiece it just grows and grows on me

[@theklug9884]

I recently met Spencer at Monster Mania. A very down to earth dude. We talked about how it was playing with Metallica. He said Lars walked up to them and said " Hey I'm the drummer for the band" . We both were like no shit!

[@drdouchenozzle3556]

When I was in high school bad omens sent me a link to their song exit wounds and ever since then I’ve been hooked. Every song and album is so well put together and his vocals are absolutely amazing. Can’t wait to maybe see bad omens live

[@MilitantMe]

Watching this video a year later. Love that you listed both Bad Omens and Sleep Token before they had their moment that took them to the next level. There is but one gospel of metalcore and Finn is its prophet.

[@EmperorTori]

You definitely need to listen to the new Bad Omens record in its entirety. You mentioned wanting them to have a more pop sound, and trust me, they delivered!

[@jordan6065]

absolutely love the pop driven tracks like “who are you” and “bad decisions”, noah’s vocals sound beautiful

[@christian2994]

Album has been on repeat non stop for me. At first I was a bit hesitant to check it out after hearing about how different it was but my goodness, that album is a 10/10 for me and probably my favorite release of the year so far. Seeing them this weekend with UØ and Spiritbox and cannot wait 🔥

[@cliffyb]

The Weeknd-core. No joke, love it

[@EmperorTori]

@@cliffyb The Weeknd with breakdowns and it couldn’t be more amazing.

[@eugenemetayhas]

I am so glad Bad Omens filled in the slot left by ETID for the Underoath tour because I hadn't really paid attention to them before. They were phenomenal live and their new album has been on repeat for me for the last couple of weeks.

[@cramx3]

I've never been the biggest metalcore band, but Spiritbox really hit me recently. Went to their show in support of Underoath which was a lot of fun, but Spiritbox specifically were soo good plus surprise, Will Ramos came out and sang Holy Roller with them! What a night. I also thought Bad Omens were pretty good

[@airlzzy]

Yoooo I was there at Starland on Sunday, it was fucking sick!!! 🤘

[@27pugsly]

I honestly wanted more of spiritbox than underoath at the show . They could of easily been the headliner !

[@27pugsly]

@@airlzzy me too off the hook !

[@airlzzy]

@@27pugsly Oh easily! Underoath was awesome but Spiritbox totally rocked the crowd. Incredible performances all around

[@toastom]

@@27pugsly In Atlanta last night everyone went nuts when Spiritbox got on stage

[@johny5ive85]

I love the fact that the old 2000s Metalcore is coming back around (Shai Hulud, PTW, Mis Sigs) such as bands like Foreign Hands and Inclination

[@Bloods2006]

The new foreign hands ep is my favorite release of 2022. Look at bands on labels ‘paper wings records’ ‘wretched records’ and ‘the coming strife records’. Renounced, caludron, writheinfear, life erased; there’s a lot of great 00s metalcore/deathcore on these labels.

[@kage6613]

Hell yeah that's my shit. This kind of stuff makes it a real metalcore revival for me. I made a huge metallic hardcore revival playlist back in 2018 when I saw Code Orange, Vein, and Twitching Tongues in a big venue and realized how much traction the stuff was getting, couldn't believe it. Got my nose broken at that show so the playlist was called "metallic hardcore + metalcore revival that makes me wanna break my f***** nose" 😂

[@alarmstation]

@@Bloods2006 writheinfear and cauldron is crazy good

[@lightxgrenade]

I agree about the reaction videos. That Jinjer video for "Pisces" has so many reaction videos with everyone freaking out when Tatiana goes from clean to growls. Have to think that exposure brought in new fans.

[@evacody1249]

It's meh at best.

[@kirstenjackson2172]

@@evacody1249 when I tell you I gasped!! I can't believe you would say such a thing :(

[@JAG214]

I like Jinjer myself but I don't like most reaction videos/genre as a whole because to me it just get boring when people keep reaction to the same videos over and over again with the same reaction or with similar reactions

[@kirstenjackson2172]

@@JAG214 very very fair

[@evacody1249]

@@kirstenjackson2172 there are women who are fsr better than she is.

[@christianbrewerton710]

Illenium just showed a preview of a song he’s doing with Spiritbox. I think that says a lot considering he’s probably the most popular melodic EDM artist out there

[@_callmechase]

He had a song with I prevail didn’t he?

[@battmarn]

@@_callmechase I thought that was Excision

[@_callmechase]

@@battmarn oh yeah you right

[@mrcnwk]

@@battmarn it was excision and illenium

[@erra7552]

Spiritbox is the future. They're everywhere, and everything they touch at this point turns to gold. Been listening to them since Mara Effect. I remember when they couldn't even get enough orders to do a vinyl release. Now they're in demand everywhere.

[@DragonOfTheSkies]

Dude I saw Bad Omens opening for Ice Nine Kills back in November and they blew me away. The crowd was chanting “One more song!!! One more song!!!” at the end of their set, and they weren’t even the headliner

[@airlzzy]

Haha that is awesome! It's exciting to see how much they've evolving as a band

[@DragonOfTheSkies]

@@airlzzy Definitely! I’ve been listening to Bad Omens almost nonstop since the concert. I can’t get enough!

[@Blaze-wb6bk]

Motionless in White seems like a big band... Seems like worth mentioning as well

[@mynameislove1704]

They're pretty big, but they're just went buttrock i think of the last couple years

[@omegazx7236]

@@mynameislove1704 their new track is anything but buttrock and it's huge

[@mynameislove1704]

@@omegazx7236 You know when you put buttrock it will reach a bigger audience than metalcore

[@omegazx7236]

@@mynameislove1704 still, only few of their songs are buttrock and that's not the case with the new single

[@mynameislove1704]

@@omegazx7236 I kinda feel buttrock on there but not really, I guess their song Another Life is the real buttrock

[@Bat_Dad_116]

Ice Nine Kills is the best addition you’ve added to my music collection. Honestly thought they were a Rap artist until I watched your video on them. Thanks Fin!!!

[@crestinglight]

Love that you mentioned Bad Omens! Just discovered them on the Underoath/Spiritbox tour, and they are fantastic.

[@hulluporo9067]

Thank you Finn for this great video. Spiritbox and Bad Omens are my favourite metalcore bands right now. BTW, I'm waiting for the first grassy field in a coloured room video. :)

[@lexidarling]

It's an exciting time for metalcore for sure. It's kinda crazy that it's become so diverse that Electric Callboy and Knocked Loose are both technically part of the same genre.

[@nuancedhistory]

I'd argue at this point that Electronicore is a completely separate genre and not part of Metalcore/Hardcore/Grindcore anymore.

[@catarmor4596]

Yeah, it’s really confusing. I’ve not usually one to advocate for more subgenres, but I think we’ve moved so far past the original metalcore formula at this point that it is warranted.

[@catarmor4596]

I think someone who picks up Knocked Loose’s new EP expecting it to sound anything like Asking Alexandria might be in for a surprise.

[@nuancedhistory]

@@catarmor4596 Well Asking Alexandria is right in that gray area between Electronicore and Third Wave Metalcore, yeah.

[@jojoversus1100]

Well I mean, Electric Callboy isnt SUPER far from like, Self-Titled Attack Attack. Kinda like the next step in their revolution.

[@michaelkaczmarek5353]

Ice Nine Kills has been my new favorite band, I discovered them when The Silver Scream came out. I saw an ad on Facebook for their song “Thank God It’s Friday” and have been hooked ever since. So I totally agree that the whole music video thing is important because that’s how I got pulled in.

[@breakingbasstv8525]

BAD OMENS!!!!! Yesssssss. I’ve been JAMMING them so much recently. Thanks for mentioning them

[@ideitbawxproductions1880]

I think the reaction channels have been a huge influence. I don't know how many videos I've seen reacting to Pisces by Jinjer, but I never get tired of seeing people have their jaws hit the floor when that first chorus kicks in 😁

[@allin2898]

As a 20 year old almost 21 I found my loving of MetalCore in high school. And the first band I listened to was I Prevail then I found a liking in Bring Me The Horizon. Then found Fit For A King which a underrated band that doesn’t get talked about a lot. But those three bands change my view and led me into where I’m at today and going to more MetalCore Concerts. Crowd surfing and mosh pitting so as someone who is young this music is the shit and the best music out there.

[@MrMann-gt1eh]

If we’re talking melodic type metal like As I Lay Dying then metal core won’t die. It has cleans for people that hate metal. It just has a lil something for everyone.

[@mynameislove1704]

Clean is a part of metalcore and that's why I love metalcore.

[@vinnregi4882]

Ehh, i wouldn't call As I Lay Dying a "genre comeback". Now or ever. The whole Tim controversy won't let it happen. Hell, it's a miracle the band itself managed to have a comeback WITH Tim. That's more than they could ever ask for..

[@mynameislove1704]

@@vinnregi4882 Oh sorry but yeah I think As I Lay Dying comeback is one of the best metal comeback of history, love their latest album tho regardless what Tim did

[@MattRose30000]

Personally, shouting over the same At the Games/early In Flames riff stil doesn't do it for me. But I get that there is a huge potential for nostalgia because that music was pretty much dead for a decade.

[@mynameislove1704]

@@MattRose30000 If the metalcore bands of the early 2000s copied At the Gates riff then the 2017 - 2022 copied Architects riff. LOL

[@Spinexus]

Alot of older bands are coming back too. Of Mice and Men, Devil Wears Prada, Memphis May Fire. All of those went into rock and other genres and are putting out heavy stuff again in 2022.

[@nuancedhistory]

TDWP never went into Rock/etc. But they are getting heavier.

[@clapton22331]

Memphis may fire is dead in the water lmao. They haven't changed at ALL in their entire tenure. It's the same 30-40 year old dudes writing really cringy whining and self loathing about how hard it is to be Matty Mullins or how he'll never sell out for fame that they're not good enough to garner naturally anyways lol. What they released recently is the same cheesy 2010 metalcore from back in the day.

[@notstarboard]

@@nuancedhistory Maybe not all the way, but they definitely did. The Act and Transit Blues were way softer and more artsy sounding. The sound felt as close to rock as it did to metalcore for lots of it.

[@mmf-rules]

Memphis May Fire is more consistent actually, they're in their own type of metalcore and rock which make them sound more unique and part of the revival 🔥🔥

[@concertsintoronto]

I finally saw Spiritbox and Bad Omens Monday and they were absolutely incredible live I’m still not over it 😭

[@nsampone3]

Another sign of metalcore’s return is when it can cross over. The Japanese anime “Attack on Titan’s” most recent season had a metalcore song for the opening. That song, by a band called SIM, “The Rumbling” made it to the top 10 on the US rock charts and it’s gotten tens of millions of views on multiple videos/versions (the first one posted had 45m views and other variations of the video [full length, music vid] are ~10m each)

[@PrettyDeadNightmare]

Altough attack on titan isn’t the first anime to feature a metalcore song. It has taken off and everyone I know that watches this anime is head banging to that intro. ❤️

[@nsampone3]

@@PrettyDeadNightmare for sure. But no other anime opening has ever topped the rock chart or gotten over 50m views. That’s just insane. Honestly something I never thought Id see. He was talking about Falling in Reverse succeeding with 10m views on their most recent vid and SIM got multiple times that I’m 36. Got into anime during its first major push in the late 90s. Used to be so niche back then. Now you see anime stuff in Walmart and Dollar Stores, the front page of Netflix, and cons get 50k plus attending (even in Nov 2021, during the co-19 delta/omicron fear). My 15yr old daughter is into it now, and her experience as a fan is the polar opposite from when I was in high school

[@rubengarcia6394]

Absolutely agree

[@nonsmarts660]

I don't even watch aot but I love SiM. such a good band

[@DrewCheech]

Bands like Spiritbox and Ice Nine Kills push the envelope of what we come to expect with Metalcore - in the same fashion as Gojira with death metal, or maybe more appropriately in death metal Fit For An Autopsy's "What The Future Holds". Spiritbox's Eternal Blue has a range that is both rare and welcomed. Hearing Holy Roller, and then the very next song I heard from them being Constance, I was immediately hooked. But it was Ice Nine that really surprised me. They get a lot of heat in the metal community, similar to BMTH but in an underserved way, in my humble opinion. The Sliver Scream 2 is like a rock-opera. Being both a metal and horror fan, they managed to blend those elements and NOT have cheesy songs. In fact the opposite, SS2 is amazingly catchy. I'm very excited to see what both these bands do with their next records and hope I get to see them live in the near future :)

[@phaaaze9984]

The Silver Scream 2 honestly reminds me of a metalcore version of My Chemical Romance. And I mean that in the best way possible

[@DrewCheech]

@@phaaaze9984 EXACTLY! 😁

[@newacc6065]

new INK is generic. they’ve released 2 horror movie esque albums, so if they release a third one they’ll show everyone that they’re a one trick pony

[@DrewCheech]

@@newacc6065 I think there's a fairness in that claim, if all we do is compare the album to their own previous body of work. Outside of INK - I haven't heard anyone do what they do and get good songs out of it. SS2 has the catchy sounds of Panic! and MCR, but the heavy of metalcore so for me it's a win. It's the alternative to the alternative :)

[@ThatShitGood]

Fit for an autopsy is more like atmospheric deathcore, they're too soft for being called death metal

[@sktrid]

I feel like Periphery is such a huge influence to this new metalcore wave musically

[@djentrification1631]

They should be so much bigger than they currently are. They definitely had a bit of a breakout with a bunch of singles from P2, but it seems like they’ve been steadily losing popularity with every year, despite them having a near-perfect formula. Sucks to see it; love those guys.

[@sktrid]

@@djentrification1631 Idk if they're losing popularity so much as they just have a really defined lane/fanbase... If you look at any of those dudes social media you can see they're doing really well

[@shaneo.kennedy]

Can't believe how many Aussie bands you didn't mention... Polaris, Alpha Wolf, Thornhill, Void of Vision 😢

[@abc123rofllol]

he did mention thornhill though along Sleep Token and Loathe

[@graymind]

all those bands are killing it...just saw a couple on the LMTF tour a couple weeks back. hard to include all the various names in these videos I'm sure...lots to summarize

[@Metaltactical]

For some reason, Finn tends to really underrate Polaris. The few times they've been mentioned on this show, he dismisses them as Architects clones. Really bad take IMO, but Finn says himself that he doesn't really like that style of metalcore so I'm not surprised he doesn't have good takes on it.

[@NBWolters]

Northlane >.>

[@kabztunes]

@@Metaltactical hes prone to some pretty bad takes but comparing polaris to architects is a shocker!

[@blacktide888]

Been a fan of Bring Me the Horizon since 2015 with that’s the Spirit, Ice nine Kills with their album “ The Silver Scream, and Spirit Box blew me away with Eternal Blue. It’s so awesome to see these bands kicking ass.

[@dilloncady35]

You have to give a nod to the Australian metalcore scene… SO MANY new- good bands (Polaris, Make Them Suffer, etc)

[@jojoversus1100]

Neither of those bands are new lmao. Great bands, but not new.

[@WilliamFBogey]

Lord of woe and Neverbloom by Make Them Suffer are BROOOOOTAL albums but their new stuff is a bit meh

[@Meechy37]

Make Them Suffer \m/

[@kevinfowler7482]

I have found that metal core is really starting to blossom internationally as well. It’s great that you mentioned Eskimo Callboy but that upcoming band out of India bloody wood is also killing it too.

[@johnmenjes7828]

I remember trying to get all of my friends in middle school to listen to The Drug in Me is You like it was yesterday and now Falling in Reverse is getting feature slots at these huge festivals and selling out tours. Great to see an artist you’ve loved for years get some recognition from the mainstream

[@thatsmybucket]

i love that a lot of metalcore seem to be going even harder into the synth/electronic productions to accompany their sound. The Plot In You / Landon Tewers are killing it

[@seanphil112]

Saw Vein last week and I just have to say that you absolutely have to see them live. Their set is so good, no bullshit talking or theatrics, just 30-35 minutes of non-stop 50 second songs filled with brutality.

[@mynameislove1704]

Yeah same like Knocked Loose their energy are so unreal🔥

[@fiendsandfinalgirls]

I feel totally aged here! I’m of the original MySpace generation (an ancient millennial) and my love for the genre goes back to the early ‘00s “At the Gates-core”. Killswitch Engage, Shadows Fall (any metalhead in their 30s from Massachusetts knows that the metalcore scene in the early ‘00s was MASSIVE). I’m now in love with INK and Spiritbox and am thrilled the genre is coming back to life - even if just a little bit. You made some of us feel old (and yet somehow appreciated), McKenty! So… thank you? Maybe?

[@thelastdaybreathinginetern1385]

Metalcore is always showing a new side.. I've been a metalhead for 12 years, and it's one of the reasons I got into metal... Old and Veil of Maya transitioning from Deathcore to Metalcore I love Deathcore and Metalcore.. Ice Nine Kills August Burns Red Periphery Loathe Asking Alexandria Born Of Osiris Veil of Maya Ocean Grove Etc...

[@dolphineeAJ]

i’m so glad u mentioned bad omens!!! also their new album does have some pop stuff so you might enjoy that. And dying wish omg!! i haven’t seen anyone talk about them since they toured with miw!

[@jcgonz9479]

I've been listening to INK for a while after seeing them at warped tour like 10 years ago or more and I feel like they've only kept stepping up their game every album and always put on such a great show even before they "made it big" i'm so glad to see them growing and how much support they've been getting🤟

[@munboy]

Yeess the Bad Omens shout. I've become a true streaming listener (not an album guy anymore), but I listen to the Death of Peace of Mind from cover to cover often. So many great songs.

[@relyksdjoser6429]

With spiritbox I feel it's kinda hard to say they got big faster than everyone else, in only 3 years. Iwrestledabearonce, the band that Courtney and Mike got their foundation with in the scene has been around since 2007 so they are around 15 years now with just a name change. Also I learned about them through Andrew Baena so I'm curious how much he helped them blow up

[@SoundAsleepSpace]

Iwabo meant Coutney was fairly well known indeed. IWABO members had not given Courtney any creative freedom at all and forced her into their old musical formula. Spiritbox is a whole other band to IWABO.

[@DragonKnightX12]

@@SoundAsleepSpace IWABO fans wouldn't except them either.

[@LordWafflestomp]

Well, not to mention their first release was in 2017, so they've been at it for a bit now.

[@justinuv]

Not true.. Courtney joined in 2012… Mike didn’t join till 2015… in that same year they both left cause they had minimal input in the band

[@LordWafflestomp]

@@justinuv I meant Spiritbox, my bad 😅

[@wickedillusion66]

I got into alot of this stuff as an older metal fan in 2004 with my first year hitting warped and just a few days ago I took my daughter to see ice nine kills on the trinity of terror tour and enjoyed it as much as she did. I don't think it's so much aging out its just getting bored, you have to stay excited and I find reasons to do so

[@magnetpull7587]

Seeing Eskimo Callboy in 2013 or so as an opener to Callejon (which no one really talks about anymore, especially out of Germany), jumping over the stage in crappy animal costumes before the rooftop of the venue came down, didn't expect them to be the (second) biggest German Metalcore Band 10 years later

[@vinnregi4882]

Callejon. Holy shit, i remember a German friend of mine recommending me to check them out, but even from the name i was turned off. (i did check out WBTBWB though and thought they were fun xD She hated them).

[@JoshyYoshiAMV]

Electric callboy now

[@natalierugg7180]

I just got into Callejon! So fucking good!

[@dasastehtfuerarschloch]

@@vinnregi4882 how can one not like them (WBTBWB).........*shakes head* ;)

[@VARVIS_]

Who is #1?

[@benbryant1368]

What a great video Finn. Metalcore is definitely back and big down here in Australia.

[@nicjohn6375]

I’m 31 now and I wish some how tomorrow we could wake up and have the early mid 2000s metalcore scene back those were the days. So many good bands and life was good

[@kyllllllllle]

Ugh yeah I’m turning 32 and I agree with you. Underoath’s 2010 Disambiguation marked the end of that era for me. I think around 2011 or so, I started listening to what my new friends in college listened to. When I rediscovered a lot of the music I grew up listening to in my late twenties and now early thirties, I realize my love for that music never changed.

[@nicjohn6375]

@@kyllllllllle same I’ll be 32 in may and I went off the rails with kottonmouth kings and other rappers when I got into college and after getting back into life post rehab found all this new stuff that doesn’t really hold a candle to the old school metalcore

[@ThatShitGood]

Dying Wish is doing melodic metalcore again

[@oldpunker885]

Wasn't even aware of a metalcore comeback. But coincidentally started to get into it recently. I listened to a lot of hardcore punk in the late 90s and got nostalgic for that sound.

[@YoungWhiteMagician]

Spiritbox is such a great band, love them so much! 🔥

[@georgeoutthebox6245]

The fact that you raise the point that people find music through video, like KZbin and such is spot on. Hell I will say I a credit you personally for showing me new bangers to listen to. Also you have brought me back to my favorite times in my life by talking about bands I grew up with and influenced my musical taste. And I like how you have an objective view in your presentation. you aren't just regurgitating what the masses appeal to. and I value that tremendously. Your opinion matters, your subject matter matters, at least to me. I enjoy your channels alot and although I don't agree with everything, which is good. I do agree with alot of what you bring to the table. Don't stop doing what you do. I among others appreciate it!

[@samuelnichols4709]

I’m on the younger side, 16, and it definitely feels that way sometimes as a fan of this type of music, whether it’s being the only kid at live shows or something like that. I got into metalcore after discovering a bunch of post-hardcore and just naturally progressed. I would definitely like to see a larger influx of younger people for this and other similar genres. Edit: also quick note about Spiritbox, yes they blew up relatively quickly but Courtney had been in I Wrestled A Bear Once since 2013, so she has already been on the scene for almost ten years, giving her time to grow an audience and following

[@mmf-rules]

I have 17, and and getting so happier to see this metalcore recognition going to massive mainstream people step by step 🔥

[@a8333]

Same here i'm 14 and it kinda feels bad being the only one into this stuff . I know a lot of others around my age who are into metal but they're either still listening to gateway bands like slipknot or they're the edgelords who gatekeep and listen to shitty copy paste slam and grindcore bands .and even the ones a few years older than me who listen to this stuff listen to the worse mainstream ones like spiritbox , bad omens and Ink which are all extremely overrated imo

[@NIIVES]

This is crazy for me to read. When I was 14-17, there were almost exclusively teenagers at metal core shows and the old metalheads wearing slayer and motorhead patches were complaining about it. I'm curious to see if metalcore can appeal to the kids again. Back in the day metalcore sounded and looked closer to poppunk and emo, which are both super revelant again. If metalcore were to blend with that again there could be an opportunity there

[@mmf-rules]

@@NIIVES I'm with you, I grow listening to metalcore since 2011, and and happy to see how dynamic is this genre to date, and is getting more mainstream everyday, I love that, and I can't wait to see more people wearing t-shirts of metalcore bands, it's just fascinanting 🙏😁

[@C4M3R0N_B]

Loved this as always Finn, just want to say thank you for all your hard work and for keeping your finger on the pulse with all this new music!

[@juliogutierrezart1874]

Foreign Hands! great band. Also, last year was great for screamo too.

[@jnewingham]

It took me two hours to watch this because I kept flipping back to Spotify to listen to these bands. What a ride!

[@JakeyChaos]

Ice Nine Kills' EP "The Burning" is still my favorite project of theirs, but I can definitely appreciate what they're doing for the metalcore scene these days.

[@quentinbringthenumetalchil5125]

That’s my favorite project by them.

[@tyzerro]

All the freshman and sophmore albums of the 2000s are the only metalcore i ever need. As I Lay Dying, Parkway Drive, Haste The Day, Classic Struggle, As Blood Runs Black, From A Second Story Window, The Haunted, If Hope Dies, Becoming The Archetype, Luti-Kriss/Norma Jean, A Perfect Murder, See You Next Tuesday, Winter Solstice, On Broken Wings, Anapparatus, It Dies Today, At All Cost... etc. etc.

[@MissGoddessOfLight]

I have been loving Australian metalcore lately, lots of great bands! The Amity Affliction, Ocean Sleeper, In Hearts Wake to name a few

[@darksu6947]

Check out Polaris, they're pretty nifty!

[@ZombieHoard]

Loving the breath of fresh air that is Eskimo Callboy. The Architects have hit the bullseye with Animals (The orchestra version is so damn good). The Amity Affliction "Like Love" is deep and dark and a must to check out.

[@FlareFoot57]

Bad Omens was excellent live. You'd probably like their most recent album if you're wanting a more pop sound from them. Their previous two albums were very much BMTH sounding. Their most recent album toys around with more flavors of rock than strictly metalcore like nu metal and industrial, and like 5 tracks on the record straight up feel like The Weeknd songs.

[@joshmoore526]

Thanks for introducing me to Knocked Loose (many videos ago). They freakin KILL IT!!!!

[@lorenzocamins9223]

I should be sleeping but Finn sure knows how to keep me awake

[@mirandathune9975]

I've been waiting for you to talk about Bad Omens. Noah is AMAZING and if you listen to their new album, you'll get plenty of those pop vocals you're looking for. They've easily become my new favorite band and I hope they get the recognition they deserve

[@serrated13]

I'd like to see you do a breakdown of Bad Omens' new album.

[@Icynova]

I love that INK just played into the Horror image, instead of immediately changing again once something started to work for them.

[@Kariss_182]

Eskimo Callboy just changed their name to electric callboy just FYI. Here in the U.K. I feel like all alt music is on the up, there’s so much great stuff going around at the moment it feels like when I was a teen again. But that could just be that I’m looking for it again

[@FromThoseAshes]

In our local scene (Chicago), metalcore has consistently stuck around. Most of the bands do the more Architects-core or djent-core things, but there is a little emergence of more At The Gates-core bands coming around to. We're one, leaning more into the melodeath side of things, but also taking heavy inspiration from bands like Trivium, Killswitch Engage, Darkest Hour, and Shadows Fall. Station 6 was another, though I think they broke up. A Ghost For All Seasons is another band, from Reno, we recently found is keeping that At The Gates-core sound alive too. We're ready for the metalcore revival.

[@satesup4353]

Dam im hitting this age when Metalcore has experienced so many changed styles and demographic that u can consider Metalcore revival as few iterations of which flavour do you want to revive, so new kids who just started listening to Metalcore will think "This is Metalcore, that one is Metalcore, and the other is Metalcore aw im confused... . "

[@MrMann-gt1eh]

I prefer melodic metal with intermittent cleans to be Metalcore. To me, the quintessential Metalcore band is As I Lay Dying.

[@satesup4353]

@@MrMann-gt1ehI was an old TDWP fan but i love AILD aw. But you can imagine when u give examples of Metalcore bands to newbies: Killswitch Engage, As I Lay Dying, to Asking Alexandria and Architects. It's all different, but it's Metalcore. They will start shaking their head in confusion, hhe... .

[@feroxk.9266]

@@satesup4353 question is: old Architects or new Architects?

[@satesup4353]

@S Hwang see? 😂 Even Death Metal has quite diverse subgenres like Brutal, Technical, Slam, etc. But Metalcore, they alw call them Metalcore, and Melodic Metalcore apparently.

[@satesup4353]

@@feroxk.9266 One is a staple and one becomes trendy... . 😂

[@skippy8696]

Your example of At The Gates- core was so spot on, those instrumentals/vocals could've been pulled straight from Slaughter of the Soul.

[@TheMetaldudeX]

It’s hard to really call all of this stuff “metalcore” because it all sounds so different. Metalcore basically is a label for the majority of modern contemporary metal sound. Also the new deathcore boom definitely goes hand in hand with this.

[@thecreatedvoid117]

This exactly! The metalcore label casts too wide of a net imo. That kind of happened with punk too. All the waves are so different from each other. But with metalcore it’s worse, since metalcore is already meant to be a sub genre of metal and hardcore. I’m not a label snob by any means but I feel like metalcore could use some clearer sub genres lol

[@Ninjamanhammer]

It's the same with Heavy Metal. When a genre grows too wide it starts splitting into sub genres, but metalcore is super well named, which is a shame.

[@catarmor4596]

Idk I suspect that the heavier bands will just start calling themselves Hardcore, “Metallic Hardcore”, or something like that to set themselves apart, and the more melodic bands will ultimately keep the “Metalcore” tag long term.

[@ErikJason_]

Or people don't know what metalcore is anymore? Just think about it, I mean the genre is bigger than before but like many genres in rock and metal, they have their own core elements. It's like calling Asking Alexandria a metalcore band in 2022 when they are making butt rock or Bring Me The Horizon when they are making alt rock/pop punk music.

[@klaineify]

Always love seeing INK here- I feel like of all the metalcore bands active right now, they really do keep chopping and changing and setting a stellar precedent

[@TheDirtyKenzo]

Just like metalcore itself.... The fans have evolved and enjoy different things

[@RahzZalinto]

No i havent lol

[@TheDirtyKenzo]

@@RahzZalinto "some" fans.... Lmao

[@ejnova7215]

I can vibe with some things but metal core is my default

[@TheDirtyKenzo]

@@ejnova7215 exactly. Couldn't agree more. I like all music but my base setting is metal.

[@jo3hamilton]

I’m 43, still listen to Metalcore. August Burns Red is still one of my favorites

[@inDefEE]

Seeyouspacecowboy is where its at. Need a tour with them and Knocked Loose and Dying Wish

[@kage6613]

One of the last shows I saw before the pandemic was Sanction, SeeYouSpaceCowboy, Vamachara, Typecaste, and Dying Wish. A little bit before that I saw Knocked Loose with Stick to Your Guns, Rotting Out, Candy, and SeeYouSpaceCowboy. And then like 6 months before that I saw KL with Harm's Way and Sanction as well as seeing SYSC open for Old Wounds with Chamber (original vocalist). They might all be too big separately to tour together now unless it's on a fatty package.

[@777666hxc]

Ok seriously, that video of TDWP at cornerstone festival is the reason why I decided to play music!! Brings me back so much. This is why I love Finn. Literally making me feel like a part of something

[@MyHeartsBeat]

I don't know when you've recorded this video, but Eskimo Callboy already changed their name and made if official and are now "Electric Callboy". I'm not really into metalcore (I like some songs and bands and always depends on the mood), more into metalcorecore lol :D

[@nnnickkk]

Le Ghey

[@Tyelkormoko]

I don't know if you watched the video but he mentioned it in the video and in the description

[@dontcomply3976]

What? Why? Were the Iniut people offended by the mullets?

[@ragekage209]

i'm currently checking out knocked loose because of this vid and i'm in love so thank you for that

[@loganmarek1884]

Another younger band that I could see getting big is Tetrarch. They are relatively young. The hooks are great in my opinion. They are still heavy but have catchy choruses too. I would be interested in seeing if you think they could help lead this revival.

[@Crab_Battle-n8j]

whenever i am at a show with tetrarch i always do my best to get a pit going, they really smack.

[@fv1005]

They smack live too. Caught them 2 weeks ago opening for 7dust

[@princealigorna7468]

I'd say they're more nu-metal revival than metalcore. But them and Bloodywood are doing something interesting in that style that makes it feel fresh and vital again beyond just the 20 year nostalgia circuit.

[@jaylensmith2612]

@@princealigorna7468 I agree, I feel like tallah also has that sort of sound

[@loganmarek1884]

@@princealigorna7468 I can definitely hear the nu metal sound. I feel the reason it sounds so fresh is because the main nu metal sound blends with the smaller metal core influences. I think you can put them in either both, i think it depends on what song you listen to.

[@thekid1568]

I was waiting years for this

[@fgc_7433]

I love horror I love metal I love INK I'm a simple human. 😌

[@legoman786]

Always love your videos, Finn! Your videos are almost my first click when I load up YT. I am always leaving with something new. I would like to point out that this video uploaded AFTER EC changed their name to Electric Callboy officially.

[@Krebzonide]

13:09 I found Bad Omens right after they released their first album, and they were my favorite band for a while, but each album they release is getting farther from my taste in music. I'm not gunna say they should go back to what they were before, but I wish I could find more bands like what they used to be. I saw them live at rockfest last year, and this year the only great band there will be spiritbox.

[@ErikJason_]

I hope they don't go full BMTH because Noah is a better vocalist than Oliver. His screams and cleans are well executed. Bad Omens recent stuff delivers. They know how to make good heavy and soft music.

[@Fel1xF7W]

It never left! My favorite metal genre next to alternative. Currently work on my scream as of typing this. opinion about my first MxC album: it's ok to be wrong, but it's better to acknowledge The Black was Asking's best album

[@6411forever]

Bad omens puts on the BEST live show I’ve ever seen. They sound exactly like the record and that was at the end of the tour. They’re incredible.

[@MilitantMe]

I would love to see Metalcore find a way to keep its integrity and connect with kids again. I think we need more catchy break down hooks that can be utilized in tiktok videos or something with extreme dynamics for it to really hit home with kids.

[@luke_cohen1]

The fans need to be kinder to this new generation than they were to scene kids as well. If they’re unable to do both, then it will be tough for the genre to truly make a comeback.

[@MilitantMe]

@@luke_cohen1 amen to that

[@jayceorourke5672]

I think a thing that's missing at the moment is the positivity that used to to be in hardcore and metalcore is being overtaken by nihilism. In the early 2010's the positive messages from bands like In Hearts Wake and The Ghost Inside are what attracted myself and heaps of other kids to the genre.

[@drnobody418]

I use to have a a bit of a though town identifying myself as a metalhead since that's the genre I mostly go back to yet, when talking to more elitist or older metalheads, I realize that major difference. This video (and over time) help me realize I definitely lean more towards metal core.

[@JMPK23]

I really feel like there's a stigma in the metal community that will sadly keep the genres feet on the ground. *A lot of metal fans want to gatekeep the genre and keep it "underground"* At LTL in 2021 I went into it with a big head not wanting to accept the lesser metal bands. I eventually got drunk and noticed everyone around me was having a good time. Listened to so many bands that I knew music to and just had a great time and dropped the stigma (myself). The BMTH/Ed Sheeran collab is absolutely awesome. It's not that it's selling out, more like selling up to get a bigger audience.

[@gx1tar1er]

The sellout + underground thing in metal community has been around forever. Metallica is the prime example of being called "sell out" back in the day & now they're the most successful metal band.

[@JMPK23]

@@gx1tar1er yeah, I don't expect it to go away. I personally love seeing bands flourish. Sometimes I don't like the new music but it's cool to get more fans and popularity in the community. Like it really changes people's lives when they start getting drawn in

[@CableB_]

The Funny thing is Metalcore in Australia never really left

[@MySkilletfan]

I find it hard to believe Eskimo Callboy is too goofy for you, your favorite genre is pop.

[@notstarboard]

Pop usually isn't nearly that goofy tbh

[@MySkilletfan]

@@notstarboard oh look the contrairian is here

[@notstarboard]

@@MySkilletfan Idk a lot of people in the world, probably even most of them, listen to pop music and they don't think it's goofy. Eskimo Callboy though... Definitely goofy lol. Not knocking it, but I gotta agree with Finn on this one.

[@vstvrxth]

They’re called Electric Callboy now smfh

[@justincadotte3484]

I live for the band suggestions. Thanks dude!

[@NotTheNebraskaMan]

I love bad omen!!! I've noticed them gaining traction lately. Also, a lot of new music I listen to is because of this channel. But I'm not finding a lot of new rock bands because of Finn it's actually pop and hip hop.

[@mmf-rules]

Maybe you can enjoy Memphis May Fire, they are part of metalcore's revival since last year with Blood And Water, but their last single Make Believe has a lot Rock Vibes than you can enjoy, it's an amazing song, and a fire band 🔥

[@AnsonLauVideo]

There are tonnes of greatest metal bands around, I'd to see the continuity of Metalcore. I eagerly witness the trend that hooked with youngster's gobs. Cheers, mate!