Michael Knowles DEBATES Viral Pro-Choice Activist | Bronte Remsik

[@michellehunt9158]

I got pregnant after being forced with out consent to have sex, I woke up the next day naked and terrified. I was poor, and alone. I was scared beyond words. But I got through it on my own. My own mother said to me (what are you doing bringing a life into this world when you are not prepared and young). I had absolutely no support. I took it head on and kept my baby. My son is now 24 and is the most wonderful human being that I ever met. I am happy that I chosen life.

[@BorrissioVivaldi]

God bless❤❤❤

[@elizabethpeters7647]

My mom said if I had gotten pregnant when I was a teen, she would have “made” me get an abortion. Maybe she said that out of fear, regardless if it were hypothetical, but I don’t think I could ever tell my daughter to abort my grand baby. She’s too young to worry about that right now, but a baby is never a burden. They’re not easy, and they’re a challenge but never a negative. I had my kids at 24 and 36; they’re still a challenge, and nobody is perfectly ready for a baby, as they’re life-changing, but they are just another person on your team.

[@TheClergyLieToYou]

Good for you.

[@JPslayer1994]

This right here, is TRUE empowerment. Through terrible tragedy and hardship, you rose above it and chose life instead of the easiest path forward. Congratulations ma'am, you did the right thing. Don't ever let anyone tell you otherwise.

[@roxxanne.adventures]

Wow. You are a brave woman. Thank you for sharing that and not killing your baby.

[@Whispn]

As someone who has gone to school for Biology and Nursing, I can't believe a medical student just lied about what a nine week old fetus looks like. That is absolutely wild to me. What she showed in the dish is another kind of tissue that comes from accessory structures of the pregnancy, not an actual fetus. By eight weeks, you can clearly see a head, eyes, and limbs that already include hands, feet, fingers, and toes.

[@Notime_4thewicked65]

She's a great psychological liar with her outstanding smart vocabulary anyone who has a heart can see how wrong they want to make a killing of a human right.

[@wouldntyouliketoknow1496]

It's as if she truly believed that lie as well. Crazy.

[@marclucido5721]

@@wouldntyouliketoknow1496 Whatever medical school she went to must be full of left-leaning professors. We are taught exactly what a fetus looks like at every stage and we are taught the medical definition of life is "heart beat OR brain function"

[@wouldntyouliketoknow1496]

@@marclucido5721 right. I was taught that as well. My professors through college did not mention anything to do with politics or their opinion. Lectures and information. It is sad, she has literally been brain washed. I've never seen an argument be more selfish and narcissistic then the body autonomy argument.

[@marclucido5721]

@@wouldntyouliketoknow1496 I think it is clear that this medical student put her political beliefs over her duty to serve and protect. It is quite possible that the university taught her correctly, as they taught us. But it was viewed through the dirty lens of a political activist.

[@Kaget0ra]

I like how it's "pregnant people" when she's on offense and "mothers, sisters, and daughters" when she's on defense.

[@GiganticWeen]

its almost like she doesn't actually believe half the shit coming out of her abhorrent face hole, but rather fears social ostriziation and recourse if she dare go against the hive mind.

[@billybrant6818]

Good catch

[@jcastro808]

Dude I caught that too and started laughing.

[@venecianita5013]

Actually it's because it's pregnant people when they carry a fetus that can't live on it's own and mothers sisters and daughters when they're actual living independent life forms.

[@screamingopossum7809]

@@venecianita5013 It's literally the Simpsons meme of "Am I dehumanizing woman by calling them birthing people or pregnant person?....No it's the right who acknowledges women as what they are."

[@XSweetNSaucyX]

Her showing that 9 week "fetus" was one of her most ignorant mistakes. At *9 weeks* , the fetus has *arms* and *legs* , a *heartbeat* , a *head* , *eyes can move* , *face has fully developed* , and *electrical activity begins in the brain* . Horrible representation for Abortion

[@nhlmmafan5602]

It's completely disgusting. That's not a picture of a healthy thriving baby still connected to its mother. Such a morbid and evil misrepresentation.

[@James.McGurl]

Talk about misinformation! A 9 week fetus has all those features formed and is an inch in size!

[@yellowsubmarine615]

I agree that was disgusting and completely not true!!! Anyone who has had an ultrasound would know that’s not what the baby looks like inside the mother. If you mashed me up and then took a picture of my splattered remains, that’s not an accurate representation of who I was when Alice

[@extremeknucklehead3637]

"At 9 weeks , the fetus has arms and legs , a heartbeat , a head , eyes can move , face has fully developed , and electrical activity begins in the brain ." You forgot to add that more than 20% are aborted spontaneously by 9 weeks. Was that intentional?

[@kileylegleu2927]

I have my first ultrasound at five weeks hung up on my wall “love at first sight” is written on the frame. By my 8 week ultrasound I saw his features and his face, and just fell even more in love. She is spreading misinformation and it’s sad listening to her.

[@mrsaliciatucker]

I know a woman from chicago who got pregnant while she was in a homeless shelter with a 2 year old son who had lukemia... she saw the pregnancy through and gave her baby up for adoption... that baby is now my loving husband ❤

[@carrieellenjones]

What an amazing woman! ❤❤❤

[@Blakes123]

Amazing that beautiful.

[@sweetsarah27]

How beautiful! Thank you for sharing.

[@claudiapilivi4536]

I almost cried reading this. God bless you mother in law ❤️

[@YourBrotherCarlos]

Wow! God bless you! Jesus Christ is King! Much love sister!❤

[@johnsim4406]

Speaking as a true “medical professional” being in practice for over 20 years. Considering yourself a “medical professional” as a 3rd year med student is laughable. She comes off as quite arrogant and patronizing. Knowles displays incredible patience.

[@Dprkr1]

I thought the same thing. I'm curious, as a medical professional would you also agree this is a ethical conundrum as opposed to a medical practice dispute?

[@extremeknucklehead3637]

Compared to him she is....and that was the point being made.

[@Sanfu69]

18:34 Bronte: I’ve explained this to you, but I can explain it again. Michael: Well maybe I am just a little slow. Bronte: That’s okay I’ll slow it down for you then.

[@annelizly]

Thank you!!!

[@extremeknucklehead3637]

@@Dprkr1 There is no conundrum You DON'T assign LIFE to something that hasn't attained it yet It's like driving yourself from the club to the hospital at 3:00am and telling the doctor you have a fractured skull.........because that's what your wife would have given you if you had have driven home instead it hasn't happened yet and it might not happen! @johnsim4406 states he's a medical professional for 20+ years. I'll allow him to give you the data on what percentage of conception actually become a human life like you & I, and what actually happens to the rest

[@WSB1469]

As a current medical student, being a medical student doesn’t make you “a medical professional”.

[@pamelaorozco764]

So being a fetus doesn’t make you a child…..

[@TristanSune]

​@@pamelaorozco764 You don't want accountability and to feel guilt for your promisqious & hedonistic lifestyle.

[@seifudinmahmud3197]

Also being a medical professional doesn’t make you say a fetus is not human. I do t even know where the hell she got the “ pregnant people “ thing. I’m a medical professional though I don’t remember this leftist expression on any of Gyn/ Ob books.

[@mariomario4062]

@@pamelaorozco764 no it means your a fetus who will grow up to be a child, like a medical student who will one day become a doctor

[@rcmysm9123]

@@pamelaorozco764 So it's ok to abort medical students?

[@incelticknots]

"*I* am here to EDUCATE you." My word this woman is insufferably arrogant! Bravo Michael for tolerating her rude condescension!

[@carolinecavalcante5778]

I agree. I also learned and confirmed how most doctors are narcisists evil people

[@emg.721]

Right because when having a conversation the goal is not to listen and learn what the other side has to say? 😂 yikes girlie

[@zoemarble2854]

@@emg.721superiority complex is why dems lost… people acknowledge the phrasing and body language… when dems debate the majority of middle/ right leaning individuals choose to ignore it but viewers still see it… great technique that has helped in framing the left as crazy

[@jagrandom641]

@@emg.721Yeah so it goes both ways right? So the proper and non-arrogant statement should be "educate each other" and not "I'll educate you" right? 😅 some people are just too arrogant they can't see idiocy in their statements.

[@TheImmoralNosferatuZodd]

​@@emg.721 I am here to educate you, so why don't you listen and learn... Abortion is murder. Life begins at conception. Abortion is never medically necessary.

[@georgiamayweather28]

I was pregnant when i was 18.. My friends told me that its better if i aborted my baby..When you are in a situation that you have only 1 choice...But I choose my baby to live..20years later my baby then is now a big man😊.. He's now studying Computer Engineering and I thank God for helping me and my son..God is good.#prolifeforever

[@gerk7238]

Good thing you had the choice! 🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️

[@Axodus]

@@gerk7238 That's all you took from the comment? How negative of you.

[@ErBeary]

@@gerk7238 Her son didn't have a choice. No woman should have the right o kill their child without their consent.

[@gerk7238]

@@Axodus yes choice is the most important thing. It’s sad that people like you don’t accept or respect that.

[@gerk7238]

@@ErBeary a 4 week old embryo is not a child or a baby. It’s mind blowing how insane you people are. If it was child, things like a census would include fetuses in their count. But we don’t because they’re are not living people yet especially at 5 weeks.

[@Mawae602]

She had me until she said out loud that medical professionals are trained to refer to the baby in different terms based on the desired outcome of the pregnancy. She’s openly admitting that doctors are manipulating mothers into abortion with their language, which is absolutely immoral and insane

[@MrJRon115]

AND . . . that's not medical care. Let's call it what it is, it is pandering to the patient instead of doing what is right and what's best. #1 is do no harm. Well, killing a living human being is a lot of harm. The worst harm.

[@yadig876]

It’s disgusting. All they care about is indoctrinating people so they can profit BILLIONS off of it

[@clbeob]

They *could but why would they what's in it for them?

[@PrendeII]

what are you on about lol, this happens for every term in medicine, it is normal for doctor to have empathy imagine if your mother dies, and doctor says "corpse is here, take a look". of course he will say "her body is here..." LMFAO

[@Mawae602]

@@PrendeII sorry but that comparison is completely disingenuous, and you know it. One is discussing the death of a loved one that has already passed, the other is discussing the killing of a loved one that is perfectly healthy (most of the time). Referring to the baby as a “fetus” is deliberately chipping away at the empathy the mother would otherwise have for her baby to persuade her to make an immoral decision.

[@13grappler]

Bronte: “Trust the experts” The experts: “Men can get pregnant”

[@juji123kick]

That is funny . . . and sad.

[@kennethgee2004]

not true. The experts say that only females get pregnant.

[@audacity-ism712]

😂😂😂 good one

[@Masculai1z]

Lmao

[@hamnerheads6770]

where is the lie?

[@kevinkether1979]

When you consent to sex, you’ve consented to the possibility of a pregnancy.

[@extremeknucklehead3637]

"When you consent to sex, you’ve consented to the possibility of a pregnancy." NO, women don't! People like you would make your daughter gestate her rapists pregnancy even if the pregnancy kills her.

[@emirubio1]

Especially when you are irresponsibly promiscuous.

[@MachineGamer728]

LITERALLY. THANK YOU. HOW DO THESE PEOPLE NOT KNOW THIS. and then they point to rape and say "oh well blah blah blah" anwyays...

[@talineclaeys3092]

So its the responsibility of the woman to not get pregnant. When its the man making the woman pregnant. What if those "healthy" contraceptives didnt work. Did the woman bring this upon herself? That is just one example. Like this is crazy that its even a debate

[@FanGurl4TY]

​@talineclaeys3092 it's both of their responsibility. They both participated, and whether they used contraceptives or not. They know the risk.

[@jeannette62rocks]

I sadly had a natural miscarriage at 9 weeks and 5 days. I saw my baby’s head, little feet and hands. It very much looked like a baby and I bawled my eyes out when there was no heartbeat on the sonogram. The way she dehumanizes a 9 week old baby in the womb is vile. She is so vile and disgusting.

[@osonocapitalventures193]

Im sorry you went through that Jeanette Lucas I hope you are better now.

[@TheTRbandit]

I hope you named your baby because your baby is now in heaven and you will see them again. 2 Samuel 12:22.

[@xnoreq]

Jeannette, fertilized eggs and embryos die naturally all the time. If you believe in a creator and think these are humans with souls then you better complain to him for such horrible and evil design that kills more potential babys every year than we humans ever could. And this is without the pregnant women doing anything wrong (other than being human and cursed by that creator, if you believe in that kind of religious dogma). You're also doing exactly what she explained: you're personifying an embryo. And you're wrong in saying she dehumanized it. It's a human embryo. She explained that like 10 times. She also explained the strong emotional bond that pregnant women form, which is why no mentally healthy woman strives to abort their pregnancy. The only thing vile is trying to spin this in an attempt to take away women's rights and destroy actually existing persons' lives.

[@5050TM]

I hope you are doing as well as you can after that terrible experience, Jeanette. I'm so sorry.

[@Grace4_All]

Yes she is

[@stoneblood9864]

“I identify as the correct person on this issue” what a legend 😂

[@babayada2015]

Timestamp please

[@whatislifebuttheenjoymento3405]

I came here for that. Not all that abortion bullshit. A person whose morally dead chooses to do an abortion.

[@lakshan622]

@@babayada2015 28:43

[@babayada2015]

@@ericweaver9787 it doesn't if you think about it

[@babayada2015]

@@ericweaver9787 which one?

[@33stine]

She needs to just come out and say “we call it a fetus when it’s unwanted so the mom doesn’t feel bad about killing it”

[@scire6616]

she basically did

[@vNill]

she literally said it

[@Alessio-j5h]

yep

[@christiantwist3360]

Really

[@FatalCroissant]

I think most people who have abortions already feel bad. What's the gain in making them feel worse?

[@KevinAndTina]

I am so disgusted with her. At 17, a virgin, I was raped At 6 weeks (prior to enlisting in the military), I had a physical....I was pregnant. Needless to say, I was a mess. The doctor, knowing my plan, offered an abortion and I made the appointment. The morning of the appointment, I asked the doctor for the info on the fetus. I knew the day I was raped and I was 6 weeks and 3 days. He was absolutely wonderful and was truthful. He told me everything. I thanked him and canceled that procedure. Was it hard on me to birth a baby from someone who had done such a heinous act? YES, but God gave that baby to me for a reason. I am Pro Life with exceptions but only up to certain weeks. Everyone on left blames Trump for SCOTUS decision when, for decades, we have tried to get it back to state level and let residents of that state vote. I know this is a fairly old stream, but thank you for sharing.

[@darrionighodaro7914]

Hope everything is working out for you, God bless ❤

[@abadjoke7065]

Beautiful Story

[@jmmsmh6220]

Could you please give a full story of your son and how that unfolded?

[@KevinAndTina]

@jmmsmh6220 why?

[@extremeknucklehead3637]

Let me get your argument accurately Tina. You had the option of aborting the pregnancy or gestating BUT DAMN if you're going to allow other women to have that option huh? What you going to tell the children of the woman who just died gestating an unwanted pregnancy? Tough luck kids!!

[@nigel2599]

I have never seen a video in my life that made me more confident in my pro-life position than this one. Not because of what he said, but because of what she said.

[@AshleysJoys]

Right !!! 😮

[@louthivierge3374]

you mean how sf=he said it , ill go with both .

[@leemcmullan]

hahaahha right!

[@Small_child_punter]

Hes just WAY smarter than she is. Way more experienced. Which is strange because he's relatively young.

[@louthivierge3374]

@@Small_child_punter he just looks young . Hes 45

[@NotablySped]

I looked up those polls she encouraged us to research, turns out that the question is "abortion should be legal in all or most cases," and the 61% is only for the first trimester, into the second trimester, it drops to 34%, and into the third trimester, down to 19%. In that same poll, of you scroll down to where they asked more specifics, only 49% of people said it should be legal regardless of the reason, so turns out she really is the one being disingenuous, but thanks for encouraging me to do my research, it really helped put things in perspective, just not the perspective she was hoping I would have

[@Adrian-ri8my]

Can you provide a link to the article?

[@123duelist]

@@Adrian-ri8my Links get deleted.

[@willcd]

Thank you!

[@Amae742]

93% of abortions happen within the first trimester …

[@Jockito]

So it's true that the majority of Americans support the right to abortion in the first trimester under all or most circumstances.

[@KittayLove]

I can not believe a medical student would deliberately and intentionally lie about the size of a 9 week old baby to support her side. I miscarried at 8.5 weeks, and while my baby was small, they were far from microscopic, and she knows this and has the gall to say WE’RE spreading false information and propaganda. How dare her use her education (and the credibility that it gives her by default) to spread lies instead of truth.

[@SummerMayDay]

Exactly. They are about 1 inch long. If she says we can see her toes with the naked eye (which are about an inch long too), we can obviously see the foetus at that age. No microscope needed. It’s a shame he didn’t know the size of a foetus at that age and could have proved how ludicrous her claim was.

[@winstonfc]

The average fetus is 1 inch long (22mm) at 9 weeks. The range of size is roughly 1 +/- 0.5 (11mm) inches, but lets go with the average of 1 inch. A 6'1" man might have a 'big toe' that is approximately 2 inches long (44mm). Let's assume similar bodily proportions between fetus and man (this is wrong, but works for a ballpark estimate). The ratio of that toe to that body is 2:73, or 1:36.5. That means you would need 36.5 of those big toes to span that entire body. Applying that ratio to the fetus, you would simply divide 1 inch (or 22mm) by 36.5 which is 0.027 inches (or 0.6mm). That is very close to the smallest width a human eye can see unaided -- but that does not mean you can make out the details. Just as you can't really make out the fine details of a hair, unaided. Yes, you can probably make out the major details, but her point remains true, the finer details are only observable using magnification.

[@SummerMayDay]

@@winstonfc Your logic and maths are both faulty. The foetus’s width won’t be 1/36th of an inch. An average woman is 64 inches tall. The average 9 week foetus is 1 inch tall. Therefore it is 1/64th of a woman’s height. The average woman’s hip width is 34 inches. Using the ration of 1/64th, the foetus will measure just over half an inch wide. More than visible.

[@winstonfc]

​​@@SummerMayDay I started my comment by saying the fetus is 1 inch long. The math is to determine the length of the toe. The width would in fact be even smaller. Even though I use a toe to do the calculations, it was my bad for not explicitly saying the final result was the length of the largest fetal toe.

[@SummerMayDay]

@@winstonfc I see what you mean now. Yes, the individual toes would be too small to make out without a microscope. But the foetus would be visible and tangible. And his head, torso and limbs would be distinguishable to the naked eye. The student in the video is either disingenuous or misinformed.

[@tiffanysantos7661]

She just admitted that a fetus is human. Perfect example of arrogance causing inconsistencies.

[@jk6146]

I accidentally got pregnant at 25 and I was financially wasn’t ready, I just started dating the baby daddy and I was scared, but I chose life. My son is now almost six and he’s the best thing that ever happened to me.

[@jimbuhlim2674]

❤❤ I’m so happy you have you blessing God bless you ❤

[@Seeker7891]

same thing happened to me at the same age. If you choose life you are already choosing blessings.

[@wulfheort8021]

God bless you for taking the path of righteousness. Is the father still around? If I may ask.

[@tallyk2848]

Same! I was 19 and I’m my second year of university living in residence. I had been with my BD for only a month. I had an appointment at the abortion clinic and was scheduled for an abortion on the upcoming Monday. I couldn’t go thru with it. I was terrified and had no idea what I was going to do. It was hard but my baby girl is now 23 and she is my absolute pride and joy!!!! I wouldn’t change it for the world.

[@missmoneypenny3917]

God bless you !!

[@delys754]

Such an insult to me to be labeled as 'pregnant people '. I'm a woman. No man can be pregnant. It's ridiculous how being a man and a woman is just based on feelings, not scientific facts 🙄

[@boathousedave2383]

She says body parts and anatomy and what you look like don't matter to be a man or women but suddenly they do matter to her when it's to decide a human in development is not human or alive? I bet that baby fetus sure would like to share some of that inclusivity she values.

[@reese8050]

Ikr?

[@MikeD-wt3tk]

Exactly

[@cesarrivarola6409]

and you are absolutely right!!!

[@YHVH7]

​@@reese8050 can you please tell me what you mean, I don't speak gen-z! No disrespect!

[@Nursegirlalexandra]

I would like to thank this woman for changing my mind from pro choice to pro life🤣🎉

[@veronicacampbell7]

❤

[@SAYTHEWORD-Pronunciations]

👍

[@Durka_Durka_Jihad304]

👍👍

[@emarie6742]

💯👍

[@SAYTHEWORD-Pronunciations]

👍

[@renee-oy1xb]

I was 18 and in college without a job when I got pregnant. When I told my parents, they cut me off completely. I had no money, no job, no car. Despite all of that, and those who said I should reconsider my choice, my 1 year old son is my best friend. He is my light. I couldn't imagine a life without him. Choose life.

[@RiahGirl9410]

She kept accusing Michael of using "emotionally manipulative language" and yet she admitted that medical professionals use different terms to describe babies based off of whether the pregnancy is wanted or not. 🤦

[@MollyPitcher1778]

When you work with sociopaths you learn that they are expert manipulators. These people are so good at it, they use accusations such as this to manipulate and dominate conversations. This woman has a hardened heart which does affect the brain & psychological makeup. This is what evil & wickedness is.

[@scapps8173]

You are spot on.

[@ihopness1668]

Damn, spot on@@MollyPitcher1778

[@crystallava5002]

​@@MollyPitcher1778I can tell you have not a single clue what and how a true sociopath is. She is not one, if you can't see that you are unimaginably naive or ignorant. Or perhaps you are trying to force your personal beliefs onto other people by bringing her down? She is simply not the person who should have gone up against michael in this video.

[@shawtyspapi]

The world we live in 😔

[@benwright5439]

Piers Morgan to Jordan Peterson, 2022: Piers: "What do you think the biggest threat to mankind is?" Jordan: "Narcissistic compassion"

[@96stealth]

Best post I’ve read so far!

[@m.i7951]

I listened for 5 min and gave her a chance. I see why she was prepared for this debate, as she is disciplined and credible . That said, she is a classic example of a compassionate narcissist and will do a lot of damage to people seeking medical treatment. Good Luck to her in her career pursuit, but me- thinks she has political medicine as her career ambition. Next Gen Fauci …..,

[@basicsimp8798]

Perfect self description of the Conservative party.

[@oldnite3414]

@Basic Simp Whatever you need to tell yourself to help you murder children at night you creep

[@benhall2235]

@@m.i7951 I don’t think she’s credible at all. She uses awful grammar. I find it very difficult not to completely discount the argument of someone who doesn’t know when to use the words “fewer” and “less” I can’t believe that this woman is a paid medical professional. If you have to pay so much money for your healthcare rather than have a system like we do in most of Europe then I’d expect a much higher calibre of doctor. She’s just parroting woke taking points. Pregnant person? Gtfo

[@emilyweldon1427]

This women is so enraging. I had a miscarriage at 10 weeks. My baby died at 8 weeks and 3 days. I chose to miscarry at home and I was so glad I made that choice. I got to see my baby. It’s hands, it’s feet, it’s fingers and toes. Even it’s eyes. No need for a microscope. I was able to sit and admire and mourn the life and growth of a baby that I didn’t even realize I had. I took pictures for my own memory but also in the off chance that I ever came in contact with someone who truly needed to see how beautiful and real life is in the womb.

[@lealacey2895]

My condolences... I have two sons and a third baby on the way, I can't even imagine what that is like to lose a child.

[@cambridgehathaway3367]

This is so heartbreaking. My deepest condolences. I pray you will find healing and joy, and be able to look forward to meeting your child in heaven some day!

[@hannahbishop7911]

I had a similar experience but miscarried at 8 1/2 weeks. It was very much a little beautiful human inside a little sack. Not a cloud of white dismembered fluid. So sad that this is what Bronte chooses to believe.

[@NoName-v5s6q]

She lives by a different moral compass - sad

[@samanthafoster2019]

I did as well. You have my condolences on your lost baby.

[@EricWeber-g7e]

For You formed my inward parts; You wove me in my mother’s womb. I will give thanks to You, for I am fearfully and wonderfully made; Wonderful are Your works, And my soul knows it very well. Psalm 139:13-14

[@Maria-jn4iw]

I was 19 when I became a pregnant mother. I didn’t want children! Ever! Needless to say I was in school and didn’t have a job. Abortion was brought up by family members but I thought to myself, if I was “responsible” enough to engage with my partner, then I need to be responsible for this precious new life. She’s now a beautiful 15 year old and I’m still with her father. I’m so proud of myself for not listening to the crazies!

[@rollmops3113]

❤

[@timnylund2116]

Amen.

[@nancymalcolm3569]

Good for you!

[@JuanDelPueblo]

pregnant person*** 😂😂

[@YoureRightAndrea]

That is awesome, I wish everyone thought like that. That's basically my whole argument, if you consent to sex then you consent to the possibility of pregnancy. Plain and simple. Actions have consequences, everybody wants to run away from accountability and responsibility, abortion just makes it easier for them to do so.

[@Tigerwolf102onYoutube]

The fact that she acknowledged that they call the child a baby or a fetus depending on if it’s wanted just proves they know the truth deep down.

[@idalily3810]

Yep.

[@cgo225]

If ever we needed a modern day example of what Our Lord Jesus meant by: "they see, yet are blind" - look no further than this woman folks.

[@rustyhowe3907]

@@cgo225 It's lightbulb moments like this that's rapidly converting me into a Christian, it's a wild ride on this side of the fruitloop fence and frankly I want off, it's too insane for me nowadays.

[@rogertorgersen9995]

That revelation disturbed me too! So many times, the truth comes out accidentally.

[@soldierdrumchannel5710]

Praise God Rusty. He wants you, and we want you too. Jesus is the answer to all of these delusions, and the only one who can claim truth. Facts are helpful and make us feel secure, being having faith in truth and belief that what we believe is true, there is nothing more freeing or secure than that. Sorry for the long text dump, it’s Easter and I’m stoked haha. Have a good day y’all.

[@CC-pp6hq]

I cringed every time she said “pregnant person”. Women get pregnant. Men don’t.

[@CharlieS76]

In latin america feminist call it: "gestant persons" 😂

[@finns2303]

Would you say a surrogate is a mother then?

[@CC-pp6hq]

@@finns2303 I’d say they’re a surrogate mother.

[@finns2303]

@@CC-pp6hq But they are not the biological parent of the child. They have no relation to the child. They do not bring up the child. In what way are they a mother? Would you call a sperm donor a father?

[@finns2303]

A sperm donor is more connected to a child than a surrogate would be biologically.

[@souzashvac2621]

She lost the debate right around 17:10 when he got her to admit it was a human embryo. Well done, Mike, I’ve never seen an activist get taken down that fast.

[@Coquithoe]

This isn’t a very smart take of course it’s a human embryo what else would it be…? It’s in a human’s womb.

[@jackietovar3772]

It doesn’t take an expert to admit that humans procreate human embryos. We aren’t birthing fish or aliens. It’s about consent to give birth or not. You completely missed the point of Bronte’s informed argument. Your opinions should not govern my body. “Can you think of any laws that give the government the power to make decisions about the male body?” -Kamala Harris

[@bluegrasslegends]

She said “I was a Republican, but then I became educated.” Lmao. She thinks men can have babies. That’s not much of an education.

[@charstevens2686]

And then admits half the population can't have babies 😂

[@yamoto1833]

Savior complex

[@bloodandaces9693]

If more college educated people are leftists, is that not a sign to you?

[@selig8752]

Educated =/= Intelligent.

[@wulfheort8021]

She actually meant 'indoctrinated', but you can't blame her for confusing those 2 terms these days.

[@chloechantal5017]

I know a woman who was groomed by a 21 year old when she was 15. She ended up getting pregnant and hiding it for as long as possible before telling her parents. She wasn't mentally prepared to raise the baby, so she gave birth to him, and her parents adopted him. That baby is now my husband. If she didn't choose life, I don't know where I would be. He is my rock.

[@neigeepierrot4694]

Lady you are pro choice since she made a choice

[@DeJesus2021]

❤

[@e_mautrey463]

​@@neigeepierrot4694 yes she is pro- choice as in pro-choice FOR Life

[@joandempsey4652]

@@e_mautrey463That’s too simplistic and self righteous. She was lucky to have a good family. All the more reason for you to show compassion for young girls who are abandoned with no support, or who couldn’t cope mentally.

[@chrishasyourkeys2808]

That made me uncontrollably start crying. That's amazing.

[@Movnalong75]

Wow, we are in trouble if this is what our medical students are being taught.

[@trump1912]

Completely agree. Imagine what this amoral arrogant lefty shill says behind closed doors. Killing babies is wrong no matter how to try to justify it. #ProLife

[@NecessaryDramaAddictionNDA]

That’s only the tip of the iceberg

[@dquzmanovic]

Preasts of Moloch...

[@GodID7]

It’s called indoctrination. And we can see this in every scientific approach.

[@trevorc41]

Shes a lot smarter than the ines I work with.

[@dzv9912]

That really struck me when she said, “I am trained and passionate in defending the opinions of medical experts.” That is the problem. You should not merely defend their opinions, you should challenge them to see how they hold up. That is such a scary sentence to hear from someone who will soon be a medical professional.

[@billmartin3561]

She lost the debate when she admitted the fetus is a human and it’s appropriate to call him/her a baby when it’s wanted. Checkmate. A mother’s feelings don’t change the fact that the fetus is a baby.

[@vikkidonn]

The term “fetus” is Latin, and directly translates to “child” in English…. She’s literally speaking another language to confuse or manipulate. Using language the patient won’t understand. Which is why he and others ask…. Why are medical abortionists so hard to press the very sterile term when it’s the same thing anyway? A fetus is a child… so why is she so upset about it? It’s too direct and clear on intent.

[@justapotato2434]

@@vikkidonnPenis is also Latin for tail. Does that mean that human males actually have tails?

[@vikkidonn]

@@justapotato2434 false comparison. The point is that fetus and child mean the same thing. So to use either makes no technical difference. The difference is in the perception and ignorance of the audience spoken to. Which makes using the Latin term without clear explanation of its meaning highly irresponsible. The implication of your statement is that the pre born ARENT children. Which would be a false statement so not sure why you’d even suggest it. And as an aside there are other terms used to describe a penis. Like phallus. However the English definition of “penis” Is specific as the male erectile organ. The difference here is it’s usage in the English language which has a history of true assimilation. As in the word has a full context in English past it’s Latin definition. Fetus does not. Fetus hasn’t undergone a similar assimilation and has a direct English translation. Which is child. Penis has been fully assimilated and given an altered definition specific to its usage in English. So again is not a true comparison

[@justapotato2434]

@@vikkidonn So you could call a born child a fetus? No, there needs to be and is a distinct name for the unborn and that word is fetus. Human fetus if you want to get specific.

[@vikkidonn]

@@justapotato2434 nope. You could as a joke however the term child encompasses the entire time from conception until maturity. It’s a term with several specific contextual meanings. If you want to use a term that is “specific” then I believe there are specific terms that denote the actual stage of development. Like embryo, zygote, ect. The reason these terms aren’t typically used in the general discourse of abortion is because of the lack of knowledge on the subject by the general public. This is also why many people and I have explained the usage of child over fetus. The terminology of using fetus of child is meaningless as the are the same definition in the context of conversation. The difference is the understanding of those being spoken to. In other words I could use the term fetus and even the more specific developmental terms while speaking to you and my arguments wouldn’t change. The truth wouldn’t change. What would change is the ability of comprehension by outside viewers. It becomes a question of transparency. I have nothing to hide and want to be fully understood. I have no reason to use language the average person has no understanding of.

[@_JohnRedcorn_]

As much as she wants to “educate us” All she’s done, is reinforce my convictions of being an abolitionist of abortion

[@richarddeerflame]

i wish she could read all these comments.. can someone send them to her.. so she knows that we are fully against her idiocy.

[@PaperrCutttt]

@@richarddeerflame we aren't, you only present yourself. She convinced me to keep on killing fetuses. Anyone want fetus soup?

[@PaperrCutttt]

enjoy being a minority

[@ziacarver6643]

Same! I was genuinely curious to hear the other side because I used to be pro choice but she is not very convincing

[@MeraiahJWilliams]

maybe bc instead of letting her be educational he just argued with her the whole time

[@Mako_683]

A medical student who cant say the word "woman" in a discussion about PREGNANCY/abortion, which ONLY affects women (regardless of identity), is very troubling.

[@00carl46]

It's clearly a sexist issue between people and pregnant persons.

[@highestpeeqs9532]

Jesus loves yall, died for us, and rose again! Jesus calls for all of us to repent! He's coming back.

[@LuvNikNac]

@@highestpeeqs9532amen ❤

[@mrzorgonian]

The medical practices have been overrun and I believe that they stand chance to lose their license if they do not comply

[@CAI.DREAMS]

I agree!! I just graduated undergrad and it’s so frustrating how this gender ideology nonsense has overtaken soooo many fields not just medicine but psychology as well. Towards the end of my A&P class one of our last topics was about the reproductive system. My professor began the lecture saying that gender and sex are two separate things. I literally had to just laugh internally. Thank God for his wisdom and for sanity, I’m so thankful that I’ve never fallen for any of this garbage.

[@jordangill2710]

At 32 minutes you can see the entire problem. She doesn’t view this as an ethical or philosophical issue, she only sees it as a purely medical one. This is the same mindset as an abattoir worker or a concentration camp guard. It’s a practical job without ethical consideration to her.

[@JAYJAYBEBE]

"I'm here to educate you" "I'll slow it down for you", "I'll correct you"....She was so smug for someone who got utterly crushed in the debate.

[@pavoldanko4811]

And then she had the gall to say mid-debate that she always sees the best in people.

[@badclassicalmusic]

@@TAS-gb5ph why? he clearly won this debate

[@Aounfather1]

Her main strategy, change the terms then change the subject to avoid ever admitting being wrong.

[@colinbickford3470]

And “what you might not understand”.

[@Ksiguwntj]

I’m a registered nurse and I can tell you the intellectual hubris in the medical community is astounding. Everyone is just trying to prove how smart they are on a continuous basis. It doesn’t matter how many patients die because we couldn’t figure out what was wrong with them. No, it’s all about the intellectual games.

[@Britney_Balderas]

I got pregnant towards the end of college. Unplanned. Bio father and i were not together and he did not want any rights or part in it. When I first found out my first reaction and thought was to go get an abortion. Only thinking about myself and acting off emotions. But the heartbeat bill was just passed in Texas. I didn't realize it then but it was my saving grace. When I used to be pro-choice I thought this bill was the end of the world and democracy as we know it. But it prevented and protected me from making a life altering decision to murder my daughter based on emotions. I now have a beautiful healthy 1.5 year old daughter. I am now very and unapologetically pro LIFE and thank God for that bill that will save more lives of babies.

[@monserenteria7289]

❤

[@cierralynseventeen2298]

❤ Thanks for sharing

[@karenmiller6283]

More of "your" type of situations should be shared! Thank you for sharing.

[@DiscipleofChrist33]

❤

[@Thatwalrus27]

🙏🏻

[@meggenray]

How is she a medical expert and she is saying that a 9 week fetus is not detectable to the human eye and would need to use a microscope??? A 9 week fetus is about the size of a macaroni noodle. Last time I made Macaroni, I didn’t need a microscope to see what I was cooking.

[@deathrqwredeye_8730]

this is gold

[@AliyahNadeau]

@@deathrqwredeye_8730I lost one at 9 weeks and it was definitely visible to the human eye and we got to burry it,anyone in the medical field making claims like that is lying to themselves

[@lalaemk]

But remember, "she is not lying, she is just using words to help with options" As Michael mentioned, she is lying.

[@deathrqwredeye_8730]

@@AliyahNadeau i was cringing listening to her speak about the matter but these are our medical professionals today! People have opinions and beliefs! As long as they’re genuine and professional in duty of care, we have to deal with it accordingly

[@joellelucas4305]

I’m pregnant and my baby was not microscopic at 9 weeks! It’s so absurd. It was hard to listen to her show that “picture of a 9 week baby” utter nonsense.

[@KathyCunningham-v6u]

Killing a fetus is the same as killing a human being

[@gbird007]

I did NOT want to get pregnant, my birth control failed. NOT desired, NOT planned and NOT happy about it. Turned out to be the most beautiful thing to ever happen to me.

[@EllisSmiths]

Sometimes the surprises in life take us somewhere we never knew we needed to go. So happy you chose life. Blessings to you and your child.

[@gbird007]

@@EllisSmiths Thank you. God knows what he's doing. I got pregnant 10 months after my dad passed. I was crying every day. My daughter couldnt have come at a better time. God knew exactly what I needed to heal. She's 14 now and is still the biggest blessing i never knew i wanted.

[@gbird007]

@@EllisSmiths I took 2 weeks to think about it and even had family that would have supported whatever decision I made. But when i thought about praying about it(abortion) I couldn't because I already knew the answer. That's when i made my decision.

[@EllisSmiths]

@@gbird007 I’m so very glad you listened to your heart!

[@gbird007]

@@EllisSmiths actually I listened to my head, not my heart. But either way, I made the right choice

[@helmimaya]

I’m a medical student graduating in a month and I can 100% confirm that she is exactly like most of the people in my class. Most medical students completely lack critical thinking skills and are rarely interested in things outside of medicine (like ethics, politics, religion, classical literature etc). The way we are trained makes us machines that follow various algorithms and most of us completely lack the ability to think for ourselves by the end of our training. She’s a perfect example of a medical student.

[@extremeknucklehead3637]

Most medical students completely lack critical thinking skills and are rarely interested in things like ethics. You're going to graduate in a month...CONGRATULATIONS Do you think it is ethical to make life saving decisions for your patients without consulting them or would you allow them to make the decisions for themselves?

[@ruidacosta8432]

yes a machine

[@baasen23]

Hence why the medical field is starting to meet the push back it is. Post Covid, many people that wouldn’t listen to us critical thinking ethicists, are waking up to the fact that much of the medical industry prioritize their abilities, over ethics and morals.

[@millier.206]

@@extremeknucklehead3637you ever heard of a DNR? 🤣

[@bennypit4411]

But she is 100% correct when she says the people that support a total ban on abortions are in the vast minority... That's why Conservatives making abortion a major topic in elections is absolutely crazy. Abortion directly stopped a red wave in 2022 and will cost the right the '24 elections. There's even been deep red states that have tried to pass abortion bans and limits the past year that have not passed, Democrats have flipped solid red seats in elections since Roe was overturned based solely on the abortion issue. Republicans making abortion an issue is EXACTLY what Democrats want.

[@hannahmagana673]

I miscarried twins at 10 weeks at home before I made it to the hospital. They had eyes, arms, & little hearts. I can promise you, they are NOT a clump of cells.

[@jannahampton6714]

Hugs ❤

[@crusigala]

Well technically they are, but so are all of us. Just bigger talking clumps.

[@lizzog4553]

@@crusigaladon’t be that guy 😅

[@crusigala]

@@lizzog4553 I'm not wrong though lol

[@christinadahdah9556]

i’m so sorry for your loss 😢 i’ll pray for you

[@johnmecca9008]

She admits it’s a human. And when the life of that human is ended it’s not a human being murdered. 😡 Scariest and saddest thing about this woman is, she is the next generation of doctors and is in training with many others who receive the SAME training.🥺

[@sourswift]

As soon as she called mothers “pregnant people” instead of “mothers”, that was the point where she lost the only small bit of credibility she barely had left

[@StephieC]

I wonder how she addresses her own parent..."hey birthing person" "how you doing sperms donor"??

[@aleifert]

My thoughts exactly. But did you notice a few times when her rational self got the better of her, and she referred to "women"? Because "pregnant people" is not a naturally-occurring phrase in her vocabulary. She needed to train herself to speak in such a ridiculous manner.

[@anirudhpottammal9553]

bro nobody on earth gaf ab ur opinion😭😭😭

[@itzunbearable]

Well surrogates aren’t mothers because that is not their baby. So she was correct by saying “pregnant people”.

[@kimprather4121]

That was all I needed to know about her.

[@Relizabeth1]

If I were someone on the fence about abortion and someone told me that only “medical professionals” could give me the correct answers to my questions, but then those medical professionals immediately say men can be pregnant… I’m out.

[@iv6872]

they have a hefty financial incentive to pander to delusions and mentally ill people, millions to be made from this industry

[@potterj09]

Most people pro-choice are by default carefree about personal responsibility.

[@skylanh4319]

An example of when one persons body is forced to do something against their consent for someone else is the draft. Every single guy in the US is forced into that.

[@louthivierge3374]

we also have a 28 year old ok maybe 25 that is totally in the know about the institution that gets changed by the will of the people and the politics of big pharma , so yes just because someone is educated into a Godless secular system hindered by principalities of the dark underground ,,does not make any judgement or sorry vito of common murder this is all about principals which wordly actions are wrong and considered evil , Godly principals will work in our favour always , we are not our own , we dont own our bodies , just as commanded by the holy ghost , its our temple to uphold ,

[@dualfluidreactor]

always trust the salesman of a service to give you advice on the service!

[@tarynmarie9066]

I feel like people would take her argument more seriously if she’d just refer to us as “women” and not “pregnant people”. She claiming to be an activist for women while dehumanizing their existence in the same breathe. WILD.

[@Kunfucious577]

I agree. The way they play with words really discredits them. It’s like an admission of being disingenuous.

[@MatthewIsMatthew]

Women are women. Love is love. What you said makes no fucking sense.

[@tylerj7298]

women are people are they not? So what's the problem?

[@MatthewIsMatthew]

@@tylerj7298 It’s okay they’ll make any excuse they can to be a bigot haha 😂

[@3xw3xw]

@@tylerj7298”pregnant people” is a nonsense phrase, we already have a word for a it, there is absolutely no need in changing language. It’s like calling a father “sperm-barer person”😂 , “UGGHH don’t call them fathers, some of them might be offended” Leftist language eventually became so much inclusive and impersonal that it is dehumanizing and devaluing every normal things,so that nobody can relate to it with all of its contradictions

[@khauer6652]

“Granting fetuses rights that no other person has” We were all fetuses once honey and benefited from that right

[@lalolitasola]

This “professional” does not speak for me. As a mom of aborted baby her talking points infuriates me. 20 years ago, I committed this atrocity because of this sick ideology she is spewing that only wanted pregnancies are valuable! Except my 18 year old brain did not comprehend what my heart knows today; I want my baby and I think about my “clump of cells” everyday! 😔 😢

[@JBCDRXYZ]

🙏

[@nellgibsongodfather]

how many weeks was the baby when you aborted them?

[@lalolitasola]

@@nellgibsongodfather does it matter?? The baby would have been born had I not allowed them to rip her or him out of my womb! 😞

[@lalolitasola]

My frustration with young ladies like this is that she probably comes from a two parent home with siblings and cousins. She enjoys a life with a family all of whom were not aborted because they had the means. Yet because I did not have the means, I believed the lies of the pro-choicers, That the life inside of me was disposable! 😡 I suffer everyday. To think not only was my offspring ripped and torn apart, but he or she died a brutal death because of my choice, at my hands! 😢

[@theradiantdehd3997]

@@lalolitasolaYour suffering is proof that you care though, that’s more than you can say about most people nowadays. The reality that so many people encourage abortion without even a second thought of what women can go through years after the fact as a result is unthinkable. The ability to create life is invaluable, and convincing people to act recklessly and avoid consequences devalues life as a whole. I wish you the best.

[@danielkeulder6852]

"I'm here to educate you and your audience..." Lost me right there.

[@subst4nce973]

As if we don't know these basic things about the anatomy and development of a Human being in 2024 😒.....no we understand very clearly the facts and we fundamentally reject your disgusting position to always put grown adults who don't want to accept responsibility before defenceless human lives that are only here because of their choices.

[@Sanad722]

My jaw dropped when she said the medical community is trained to say fetus to allow the mother more comfort to abort their baby. I can’t believe I was ever pro choice. Wow.

[@xAaeiynx]

Yep. The devil is a lie!

[@eyemnew2991]

Sanad72 It's a shock to your system isn't it ?

[@jdizle1178]

They have to fabricate and put make up on the truth to make the unlawful decision. That’s why they can’t even be taking seriously

[@181ghassan]

I was never trained to do that honestly

[@Niaxx178]

Right! I am a midwife and I’ve never used or ever heard anyone use fetus or embryo in the parents’ presence. Unless we’re taking about IVF. Then we use the term embryo. But as soon as it’s implanted and vital, it becomes a baby. And I’ve never heard a mom refer to her child differently. Even when they come for abortion they always say BABY.

[@caliahdenon6164]

“I’m a medical expert…. If you can’t see something with the naked eye it’s not there … “ 😮

[@ijustwannawatchstuff627]

As a father of 2 children, I can honestly say my ex and I couldn't afford our kids when they were born. We struggled and had to get state assistance. We knew we couldn't afford our children but that didn't stop us from bringing them into this world. They are the greatest and most important people in our world. We knew it was going to be a struggle but did it anyway as we knew that the babies in her belly were ours and were living beings. They kicked around in the womb and responded to my voice and music. I couldn't imagine removing that life from her womb just cause we didn't want to make the necessary sacrifices for them. BTW she's a mother not a pregnant person.

[@lg6002]

So glad you and your wife have your two wonderful children, wishing you & your family much happiness 😊

[@JoeDraiser]

As a father of 2 children my opinion is the people want to consume on some level and sometimes when they understand that they cannot afford a certain level of consumption with kids they consider that they cannot "afford" to have children. I was to speaking to some mother of 1 child and she was saying that she doesn't want to have more children because she wants her daughter to go to private school not just common school. While she definitely can afford two children but they will go to ordinary school. So most of the people wants that their children were possessing iphones, brand sneakers, fancy clothes and so on. While the reality if you want to raise a children "at all costs" it doesn't take a big amount of money in case if the child is without big health issues. Most of the countries have gov programs that effectively help to raise children. When my friend was in situation when his girlfriend was pregnant I advised to keep him at all costs. Because strategically I think its a big win but on a tactical level its a disaster. Nowadays I see him happy with his son. I'm not saying that I made a decision for them and saved live of that kid its complete their merit. But I hope I've made even a small push towards right decision.

[@reneerolandgraceinyourface]

God will always make a way. We should encourage the right choice and give solutions and resources so women ACTUALLY have options. Idc what euphemism anyone uses, it's murder of innocent human lives. It's evil. I am not beating up young women that fall for thos options. I'm blaming the dishonest ppl using clever language to minimize the horror of what these mothers are choosing to do. They need to give honest accounting of the process . She accuses him of manipulating via language but omg she is using ls Guage to justify murder. These high and mighty I'm smarter than everyone else evil ppl will answer to God for it whether they think so or not.

[@ericweaver9787]

As a father of 2 children, shes a pregnant person. Its not hard if you try. Its just like saying "black lives matter"

[@multifan6679]

@@ericweaver9787 you are expecting a third child? Congratulations! Cause unless your wife is pregnant, she is not a pregnant person obviously, but a mother!

[@MyronManickum22]

I love how she keeps saying “you’re not a medial professional” yet she’s 3yrs into med school and not a medical professional either

[@CinemaSongscovers]

I was thinking that myself. Maybe she was thinking that simply having 'more medical knowledge' than him automatically made her a medical expert.

[@marydetray6776]

Yeah, didn't you know that if you have no medical experience (schooling or practice) then you don't have any legitimate argument as to why killing babies before they exit the birth canal is morally wrong?

[@suzannek3406]

I am a medical professional, RN for 23 years as well as a WHNP and FNP for over 10 years. I have more experience than she does. I know that abortion is murder and especially late term abortion is NEVER required to safe a mothers life. If the baby is past the age of viability, then the baby is delivered as safely as possible to treat any pregnancy complex. Killing a viable baby is NOT needed.

[@candancemcgee3328]

That's complete arrogance, unfortunately a hallmark of our medical profession. The fact she thought she could hold her own in a room with Michael is another indicator of her level of arrogance. Let's hope God can get through to her before its too late for her. She needs lots of prayer. "I'll correct you there." How many times does she say that? Tsk, tsk, tsk...

[@ursalaoutrageous9249]

She certainly has acquired the god complex, though, hasn’t she!

[@lillylee2410]

I was on the fence with pro-life, as an open minded libertarian who had an abortion before. This woman educated me to definitely become PRO-LIFE with her ignorance.

[@sarahsaucedo3271]

Same!!!!!

[@Kyan14]

Libertarianism presupposes pro choice

[@brianzimmerman193]

Weird, I would think the opposite. Most libertarians I know in my circle don't agree in forced blood donations, or as the example the med student made: If a person needed to be on life support, but required to hook up a human to it, we would never force a person to hook up to another.

[@ShiftingSkys]

@@brianzimmerman193 You can be a Libertarian without being libertarian on 100% of the issues. What she is saying is that She may have been Libertarian on Abortions before the interview but not after. Honestly She did a poor job of defending the Pro Abortion crowd.

[@Small_child_punter]

@@brianzimmerman193 it baffles me how people compare forced blood/organ donations to carrying a child. It baffles me because its THEIR child. They should WANT to carry it. Im not even religious, but the fact that people dont defaultly want to carry the child shows clearly how the devil has affected our minds.

[@taylormarketingency]

Thanks!

[@meganwells9391]

I just had a miscarriage and my baby measured 9 weeks. I can promise you my baby looked like a tiny human. She had developing eyes, nose, ears, mouth, I could count all 10 of her fingers which were already formed, she had tiny little feet... She was more than whatever this woman showed as a picture of a "9 week fetus in a petri dish". My baby was more than that. And I have pictures to prove it.

[@johnhenry4844]

Bruv a 9 week fetus looks like a alien, stop forcing women to have kids they don’t want

[@DanniTheMagicJunkDrawer]

I’m so sorry for your loss.

[@jennahlatham]

im sorry for your loss

[@slotheatworld]

I'm so sorry. ❤️

[@spikespeigel6902]

I'm sorry, no one should have to go through that.

[@bibianatovar970]

I used to be pro choice, i had my daughter at 16 luckily my parents were my biggest supporters. Im very thankful for that everyday. I was still pro choice up till this year. The topic came up and i had to explain to my daughter what abortion means and she was horrified. I couldnt believe it. Everything changed for me to see her reaction "its not the babys fault she got pregnant and now the baby doesnt get a choice at a life? Thats selfish" my daughter brings me such hope for this next generation. ❤

[@elsh332]

That is such a beautiful statement your daughter made ❤ she is clearly a blessing to your life.

[@JK-nu4vp]

Your daughter is actually smarter than you….

[@bibianatovar970]

@JK-nu4vp I have accepted this since she was 8 years old and I tell her all the time she will pass my intelligence but that's what we should strive for as parents bc we are preparing them for a different world of future circumstances

[@cephasmee6456]

She reminded you that you did the right thing!

[@Alessio-j5h]

She has more sense than the average adult.@@elsh332

[@melaniem4798]

She literally explained that she uses certain language to make women looking into abortion feel more 'comfortable' with killing a human. She doesn't want her possible abortion patients to view it as a human life they are taking or it may upset them. But she tells Michael that calling it "killing humans" is "manipulative". 🤦‍♀

[@chrisvda88]

She wants a woman to go into the discussion with a medical professional with a predetermined bias.

[@peety1021]

This entire conversation should've ended right at that point. I would be more comfortable with the legality of abortion if instead of saying aborting a fetus, they said it was murdering a baby. Language is being invented to influence these debates and society and it needs to change. She also stated pro-life isn't the correct termnow , it is anti-choice. These people are manipulative slick tongued monsters. It's ending the life of a baby, Period.

[@sunghj11]

Another good example is corpse and body. You're not gonna say we are going to bury my dad's corpse. You'll say I'm going to bury my dad's body.

[@Rhonda2580]

Agreed - that was pretty terrible. Is the conversation like “well, are you happy about this thing growing inside you? No, okay, then, we will call it a fetus, so we don’t hurt your feelings.” OMG.

[@calumjones]

She means they lie to mothers who want the baby by humanizing it (so they feel a bond with the """baby"""). When it's just some completely non-conscious shite. They use the correct term with women who don't want to feel close to a baby.

[@johnpark5608]

I do not want her to be my doctor. How can someone who so condescending be caring for someone?!

[@marcusbrutusv]

Knowing this woman is going to have a doctorate in medicine soon terrifies me.

[@TheOneTrueNoName]

Bronte: "Trust the experts" Experts: "Men can get Pregnant" G-d: "No they Can't" Bronte: "you're not a medical expert"

[@rollerblader5350]

why?

[@dylanramsey516]

@@rollerblader5350 Broken internal basis

[@rollerblader5350]

@@dylanramsey516 Please explain

[@dylanramsey516]

@@rollerblader5350 “wrong to murder” “this is a human” “a life you can talk to and see is more important that one you cannot” those do not live on the same basis

[@kristin0408]

Man.....10 years ago, I was totally on this woman's side. Bleeding heart liberal. Then I opened my mind and lowered my pride, which is HARD. I can't believe I was ever so ignorant.

[@juancena930]

Its ok, No one here will judge you. Its incredible you were able to do the opposite of what this Lady did. Good on You!

[@nicklivewire]

same

[@LetJesusTouchUrLife]

Love your comment

[@gerk7238]

Bot

[@Small_child_punter]

And it sucks that its hard for people to put their egos away. Its so hard to accept that you're wrong on something. So much progress would be made if it were easy.

[@flowerchild2907]

My sister recently went through an abortion and what she experienced was nothing less than COLD HEARTLESSNESS. They didn’t make her comfortable, they told her to stop crying because the doctor needs to get it done. They provided no type of “comfort” so this argument to me is baseless. The reality is when a woman goes in to get this procedure they are nothing more than a number. Not a human but a number in the day. I had a baby and lost my baby at 9 weeks. My baby had little arms, and tiny eyes. My baby is more than a “clump of cells”. Anyone experiencing trauma or guilt from abortion you aren’t alone and you are more than just a number💜

[@caelestiscatholic]

I'm so sorry for ur sister ❤

[@raphtube75]

Impressive comment. My full support.

[@devinland7732]

The doctors just care about the paycheck it comes with

[@raphtube75]

@@devinland7732 That’s exactly right.

[@richarddeerflame]

Maybe this Health care professional in the debate did the abortion... i wouldnt be surprised

[@Martin.C.777]

My body, my choice = I am my own God

[@deborahjury884]

I have been a medical professional for 50 years. I have never engaged in pompous elitist language like this medical student

[@janisedenton4242]

@deborahjury884 I have been in the medical world since 1970 as a medical assistant, then medical transcriber, and finally to medical school ending in 1984. I worked at a Planned Parenthood while a resident. During all my years, I have never seen or heard a medical practitioner say such things as this medical student. She is, in my opinion, a horrid example of a physician. She is a cold hard word and emotional gymnast who seems to take pride in being woke and "inclusive ". The more she talks, the more I want to throw up and cry for anyone who has to see a doctor in this country now and in the future. Pregnant People, my a**. 😢

[@dude8223]

Bc this is Marxist ideology applied to the medical feild. It warps every genre it is introduced to.

[@yojedyojed]

My thoughts exactly. To assume that none of us audience members are medical professionals and need to be educated by a medical student.. not to mention that Michael Knowles is not allowed to speak on the subject because he doesn’t speak to pregnant patients daily. By that line of reasoning, as a medical STUDENT, neither do you! I don’t even sit with my own patients and start of a conversation with, “I’m here to educate you.”

[@CindyOsborne-TDWP]

Ikr

[@Sophicx]

At my medical school, if we shared this much incorrect information we would be dropped. We are also not professionals until we are licensed.

[@nyyokk]

I THOUGHT about getting an abortion . A year and a half later I still think about what I almost did and I could cry every time I look at my daughter . Knowing I didn’t want her at one point trying to convince myself she’s not a baby it still eats at me . What pro choice-ers don’t talk about is the mental turmoil you go through when you have an abortion… I didn’t even go through with it but I still think about .

[@Parahelion]

Exactly. When she talked about the mental well being of women who are pregnant, she didn't mention the regret and mental pain one would have to go through after getting an abortion.

[@nyyokk]

@@Parahelion YESSS ! it is traumatizing and they make it seem like giving birth is worse than getting raped . Treating a tragedy with another tragedy does nothing but double the devastating double the damage .. children bring joy and light to the most saddest and darkest days and nights. And to lie to women and sacred them into thinking their life will be easier without a baby is evil :(

[@heb725]

God bless you and your baby

[@madra000]

This is acceptable and accurate however your convincing opinion for turmoil is not equal for all, and there's difference in personality that can accommodate these complex events. Im glad for your health through this but you can't extend this by rational premises whether or not the bio aspect supports you. It's not black or white. Unfortunately this will not provide surity of descion towards one way or another

[@rebeccaconlon9743]

I'm pregnant with my second baby, I have had doubts and thoughts. The process of abortion was why I no long agree with abortion. Thinking about all the babies that had suffered through it, even some surviving it, breaks me down everytime... its barbaric and murder, aushwitz was humane compared to this 'proceedure'. Being torn apart alive and awake, or being boiled from inside by a chemical injection... its all despicable and the 'pro abortion' are either ignorant, or they don't want to admit this reality as they are 'happy' in their clouds.

[@hertzsa]

Praying for Bronte. So amazingly sad to see a woman be so detached from reality and humanity. Prayers for her conversion and her soul.

[@carissadgraham]

You have a lot more grace for her than I do. I feel like she was being a condescending know-it-all during this whole thing. So yes, we need to pray for her, but I might need some of your prayers for grace directed my way.... 😅

[@simxntu]

@@carissadgraham You can smell Christian fundamentalism from miles away........

[@DeeCee1878]

@@simxntuAnd we can all smell the stench of your rotting bigotry from Mars.

[@jondoe384]

​@@carissadgrahamshe's doing it purely out of spite for her upbringing

[@debraperkins4448]

YES‼️💖

[@NoahHenry-wq6dc]

Q:” Can you tell me a scenario where you can force someone to use their body to save the life of another individual?” A: “ Yes, when that someone brought that individual into existence, without it’s consent, completely helpless and dependent on the person who brought them into this world.”

[@johnroberts1873]

My fiancé terminated my “fetus” behind my back. I have felt grief and remorse for almost 3 decades. This smug little peach dismisses my feelings because she thinks only certain medical professionals can define what happened. I know exactly what happened. My fiancé took advice from these doctors and nurses and felt no discomfort in making a decision that ended a life. I never married her but I found out through her mother that she lives in guilt, remorse and abuses alcohol now. How can this intelligent young lady get such satisfaction from dedicating her life to such a horrible side of society? She could do so many good things.

[@zacharyknollman5731]

Modern schooling in universities is used to Corrupt your humanity it's designed to dehumanize people and put majority ideology over the consensus of rational human nature we are taught to feel guilt for everything in society instead of promoting pride and american spirit showing love in our commmunity to help with Conquering Mental health as well as teaching Discipline And accountability we could make a positive impact into the future

[@Alaitha]

I'm so sorry for your loss. Fathers are also harmed by abortion... Thank you for sharing

[@Jtretta]

My younger brother had the same thing happen to him, his girlfriend at the time realized she was pregnant and had an abortion behind his back. He was devastated, had she told him he would have stepped up to the challenge and supported her to his best ability. I know this because of how he fights for custody of his daughter now, he wants to be a part of her life because he knows looking back at our father that she needs him. I don't remember that girlfriend's name, but I loath her for killing my unborn niece/nephew and hurting my brother so. I cannot comprehend why someone would deem the slaughter of the most innocent individuals, those most precious to mothers and fathers alike, to be anything but the last resort.

[@bellegold2303]

I’m so sorry that was awful for her to do

[@richardcarte]

Sounds like you left her because she proved you you didn’t have power over that decision. This comment has vibes of want for power and possibly revenge.

[@briandunlap3243]

Anyone notice that when she wants to make an emotional point about the risk to the mother, they become our "mothers, sisters, and daughters," but when she wants to go back to purely technical language, they suddenly become "pregnant people"?

[@elazfrelu]

Ironic isn't it

[@Christ-Is-King_]

Yes. And she claims Michael uses manipulative language. 😂

[@MikeTheD]

It’s like a switch of dissociation they flip. It’s very wild. This issue has utterly brainwashed them, and they really don’t face the brutal act they do

[@kaizze8777]

Haha that irony went over my head but that's so true!!

[@uwoluwu]

for me it was very obvious but I don't think it is intentional rather when she gets emotional she is no longer able to control her words and reverts to habit or common sense

[@sirhenrythethird687]

the narcissism oozing out this women is terrifying, her proclaiming herself as an expert when she says dumb things like pregnant people is wild.

[@mrbeez8631]

She definitely isn't an expert. Just a stoodent

[@B1rdTheW0rd]

Not to mention just a medical student. Typical self exaltation.

[@rats2themoon]

🧡🧡🧡🧡🧡

[@andreascasablancas3574]

Well she is studying, to my knowledge doctors have a long career to be rightfully called doctors, that does not make them unfit or the debate. If anything, through this interaction she demonstrates that she's there to share knowledge coming from someone who has studied social health, as opposed to someone like him, who honestly made terrible points based on pure feelings.

[@frenchmahala]

Lol like just out of school too.. and she posted getting owned in this debate on ger page like she mic dropped

[@NatalieinNevada]

I personally went though a coerced abortion. And people tell me “no, that’s a choice you made.” And no. I was lied to by the father of my child and then threatened and given drugs and had an abortion performed on me while under the influence of tranquilizers. I told people. No one believed me. I wanted to call the cops and was advised not to. I told the nurses and practitioners at the abortion clinic. They just encouraged me to go through with it and ignored what I was telling them. I contacted several law firms to pursue justice and all said “sorry, we can’t help you.” The father of my child made me take drugs to get me to “consent” to abortion. I was encouraged to abort by multiple significant figures. It was horrible to feel the life of my child being sucked away. Murder is not the solution. Sexual wisdom is.

[@MmM2025-v9d]

@@NatalieinNevada Very common. Women. Have literally been tied down.

[@subst4nce973]

All that is horrible and the Medical professionals and lawyers should have helped you and given better advice and your ex-partner (I hope 😐) is a spineless POS but Women also need to start being way more responsible about who they decide to engage in sexual activity with; if your not sure wether or not he will be supportive under any circumstances and be a decent provider and also provide emotional/psychological support to you, then you shouldn't engage in sexual activity with them. Too many Women are not thinking about the consequences and giving shitty Males what they want and the shitty Male doesn't care about this issue because he believes he won't have to take responsibility for conceiving a child so Women need to stop giving sex to undeserving Men who haven't earned it or are undeserving of it. I understand sometimes shitty Males can be incredibly deceitful and pretend to care and love you to get what they want so it's not just the Woman's fault but Men are the ones who are desperate for sexual activity and Women need to use their mind and logic and not just their emotions when determining which Males are deserving of sex and intimacy.

[@scrappinlive]

the fact that she insists on using the term "pregnant people" and refuses to call them women immediately removed any chance of her changing my mind.

[@margaretbush]

She’s also a “medical professional” she’s the reason why women are being mistreated within the healthcare. It’s absolutely disgusting that they say they care for women but dehumanize them and their babies

[@MistyR17]

You should use the same language regardless if the baby is wanted. That would be true informed consent, letting the mother understand fully that it is a baby regardless so she can understand the full depths of her decision. You shouldn’t make her feel comfortable with murder. Bravo Michael!

[@RingJando]

!

[@joshhale6584]

Exactly!!! Baby is a baby so matter how small and no matter if that matter is wanted or not.

[@audreysottomayor8770]

Exactly .. her arguments were ridiculous

[@bharris010486]

She claims Michael is using manipulative language, right after explaining that she has been taught to use manipulative words towards pregnant “people”.

[@tm1830]

100%

[@Spicypep1]

How so?

[@iahmarielle]

@@Spicypep1 she admitted that they say the word “fetus” to a woman who doesn’t want an abortion so that they are disconnected and won’t feel bad for the abortion, but they use the word “baby” if the woman doesnt want an abortion. she admitted that they are trained to do this to foster a “comfortable” and “accepting” environment

[@tm1830]

@@iahmarielle Comfortable and accepting to everyone but the baby in the womb. Why are they so afraid of saying what it is?

[@sid2776]

Post-moderism is a language game....

[@Cjfox43]

“Pregnant people”. How totally ridiculous.

[@zanenzeller4885]

37:00 "Pregnant People...anyone who identifies as a pregnant person" not even 30 seconds later, 37:20 "We are talking about daughter, sisters, mothers" Hilarious

[@tm1830]

It’s one or the other only when it suits her desire to try to make Michael uncomfortable with “inclusive language”.

[@bensonchuru855]

Beat me to it😂

[@MG-hy5yf]

Lol, i noticed that too. All depends on the need to drum up emotional response in her listener.

[@yarbgreat1]

I disagree with yall. If anything, Micheal is the one who trys to drum up emotional reponses by using words like murder, ect. At 39:00 He literally said its better for a woman to endure motherhood than for her to "murder her child". This isn't a debate about transgender people, its a debate about the legalization of abortions.

[@JudoMateo]

@@yarbgreat1 When an innocent human life is taken that’s called murder fyi.

[@angelamalek]

Not even a doctor yet, and this woman has the unmitigated arrogance down pat.

[@richardcarte]

Once again, Michael Knowles, using loaded terms, constantly interrupting someone and giving someone condescending facial expressions and body language to try to get an emotional reaction out of them to get social points, feed his ego, and to argue for his side being right instead of working with his fellow human beings to try and find practical solutions to make this country as well as this world even a little bit of a better place for everybody. Just like in my experience, I have seen from the majority of his fans.

[@ericweaver9787]

"unmitigated arrogance"" masquerading as a nearly perfect logical and reasonable argument

[@randyfellows]

@@ericweaver9787 she lost the argument the minute Michael pointed out that abortion kills 850,000 human beings a year using her own language.

[@JohnjOcampo]

​@@richardcarte we will not indulge in the rejection of reality because your cowardice demands you to be inclusive.

[@semafreak]

@@richardcarte As usual you people focusing on how the message is conveyed and how it made you "feel" rather than the information that was said.What he said was 100% true.You people have no right to alter the very perception of reality and mold it to your whim to "feel" good nor do i have to change basic biology so that you "feel" good i will not do it.

[@michellecox6251]

There are SO MANY WOMEN who are FORCED into abortion. I never wanted to abort but was threatened with actual death. I was put in a car and taken there at 16 y/o. The abortionist was George Tiller. I told him before he started that I didn’t want to do this. He did it anyway and told me to shut up. No one talks about forced abortion which is rampant. That’s a conversation that needs to be had.

[@NDETV316]

That is the best point I have ever heard. Did these women really consent when they were forced into having abortions by parents or men, that isnt choice. I am so glad nobody talked me into it when I was 18 and homeless and pregnant. My doctor told me to get an abortion because I lacked social support. I wouldn't seek shelter or services because I was so afraid someone would convince me I should abort. My baby is 44 now , has 4 kids, 3 step kids, is a disabled veteran, is a world champion in jujitsu, and is an OSHA Regional Manager and a grandpa. I raised him and his 2 younger brothers , then fostered 60 kids and adopted 9. I had a career. Women are lied to and told they can't have the baby, can't have a career, they should wait to start a family, etc. It is all lies. They can and do , and women always have. I'm sorry you were forced . Please continue to speak up about it. "My body, my choice," but is it really if you're forced. Good point.

[@thatmombielife]

That’s terrible!

[@michellecox6251]

@@NDETV316, I’m so glad you were able to have your baby♥️

[@michellecox6251]

@@thatmombielife, it was. It still breaks my heart. I still mourn that baby. I wish someone with a platform would point that out because it’s very prevalent.

[@aHebrewMidwife]

😢😢I am so sorry. May God heal you

[@jordangill2710]

She’s an example of someone that is incredibly blinkered and cannot think critically outside her area of expertise. So she cannot think critically in general, but has a particular set of information that she will constantly appeal to. This leads to constant appeals to authority instead of to logic and reason.

[@megan0rtiz314]

She is very poised in her defense but she CONSTANTLY contradicts herself, pretty embarrassing

[@richardcarte]

Once again, Michael Knowles, using loaded terms, constantly interrupting someone and giving someone condescending facial expressions and body language to try to get an emotional reaction out of them to get social points, feed his ego, and to argue for his side being right instead of working with his fellow human beings to try and find practical solutions to make this country as well as this world even a little bit of a better place for everybody. Just like in my experience, I have seen from the majority of his fans.

[@sarahpresnell3509]

@@richardcarteGo cry about it

[@Allusyy]

@@richardcarte once again, richard being delusional

[@CharlyDavis5594]

​@@richardcarte Nobody cares about what you feel you see in Michaels face expression etc etc... Only logical arguments should be debated about and Michael owned that lady.

[@Mag_W_]

@@richardcarte you’re the type of person who focuses on emotions while everyone else is focusing on the logic. Congratulations. 🤦🏼‍♂️

[@bodvarson1933]

A person's a person, no matter how small - Doc Seuss

[@richardeknormis7688]

Her entire argument comes down to “I’m a medical professional and so are the people I work with and we all agree so it’s a fact”

[@MGWGuitars]

Exactly. It's the argument from authority fallacy. Literally a fallacy in its very premise.

[@chow42]

@@MGWGuitars but isn’t that the same with everything like gravity?

[@diamondb.6115]

She's not a 'professional' yet... she's just a student. You need to be licensed to be a professional.

[@davesenatus5566]

@@chow42 Everyone agrees about gravity not because great minds made the case for it but because it’s something that has always existed but people didn’t make a name for it. We all know what goes up must come down based on our lives on earth, no one needs a professional to show gravity exists. We would just say “hey, so that’s what it’s called. Cool”.

[@chow42]

@@davesenatus5566 Thanks!

[@crystallman522]

It's not always a medical issue. This is a moral issue.

[@zedalba]

She's doing everything in her power to avoid saying pregnant woman.

[@Ketamine-For-Dinner]

Or Mother

[@MusicLife-pb2es]

She’s blonde what did you expect 😂

[@urdadisstupid]

I lost 2 brain cells every single time she said pregnant people

[@sg5720]

@@urdadisstupid pregnant people are women - period.

[@aykarlita]

@@MusicLife-pb2es oh yay body shaming.

[@zwickysnails337]

A client I had, who deeply regrets her abortion at six weeks with the pill, said that she was bleeding so much and it felt like someone was stabbing her in the uterus as her baby was expelled. She told me that it was one of the most painful things she experience. She cried in my seat as she was telling me this… she often imagines what her child would be like today. She remembers seeing her baby in the toilet, and feeling sorrowful and just trying to store her remorse away. She did it because her new career in the army would boot her from her position. Us as women, and mothers, are not designed to put ANYTHING above our child’s lives… and for my poor client when reality set in, she realized that she chose a career in which she’s easily expendable, over her child. We’re not designed for a mindset like this

[@hayleysantos3648]

Yes like birth wouldn’t have hurt just as much. Just because she regretted it doesn’t mean everyone will or can have the child even if it’s wanted. Her experience isn’t the only one stop acting like this one girl who’s giving u the perfect example to ur side is fact of every person like there aren’t people who don’t regret it

[@hayleysantos3648]

Women aren’t made to be just mothers nor do many want children therefor acting as if women need to have children is ab as toxic as ur saying abortion is

[@TCAPChrisHandsome]

Your job is expendable. If you quit, you can be replaced, and someone else can do your job just as good, if not better. A parent cannot be replaced. If a mother says she doesn't want her child anymore, and just throws her child out, nobody can replace the mother from that child's perspective. Your job sees you as replaceable, your family does not. If you can choose between having a family or having a job, the choice should be obvious.

[@hayleysantos3648]

@@TCAPChrisHandsome people have the right to choose and the choice isn’t obvious because some people don’t want children or even spouses

[@HR_Racc]

@@hayleysantos3648The choice to kill a human life is something we don’t have, but through abortion the prince of lies has tricked us into thinking “that’s a fetus” instead of “that’s a human”. Continue to do the enemy’s work and I promise that there will only be regret. Repent and believe in Jesus, ask for forgiveness and may the Father have mercy.

[@howardsmith8015]

Her: "Homicide is the leading cause of death for pregnant people" Michael: "It's the number one cause for babies in abortion too" Great response.

[@johnpob2486]

Abortion is homicide

[@ItsAllGoodMan696]

37:15

[@BasedAnglican1453]

Just got to it that’s awesome

[@LaurieLT88]

Exactly. It is 100% the outcome for the baby, baby baby.

[@marivipalomino6975]

Then the homicide rate is zero because there are no pregnant people. But honestly I don’t understand why homicide would be the leading cause of death for pregnant women. Are the killed by the father of the baby? Is that it?

[@SethChirdon]

I love how pro-abortion women completely disregard the role and the opinion of the father; no say at all in whether their child lives or dies.

[@jacksoncothren5831]

Her saying pregnant people nearly drove me insane.

[@1VIP1daniel1VIP1]

Same xD It's like saying "dead corpse".

[@kaliforniagirl]

how is it like saying dead corpse

[@malayjia1023]

😂!!

[@ErBeary]

I'm honestly glad that she said it. In 20 years when society has gone full circle, we will have all of this stupidity documented.

[@kaliforniagirl]

@@ErBeary what stupidity?

[@sipsimies1588]

Its rare to see someone contradict themselves this much in an interview

[@tita7308]

And feel so empowered by it. Lol

[@bastetje1]

Not that rare nowadays 😂

[@krasimirdimitrov4955]

good thing this is not an interview.

[@modern_disposition]

Brontë: We call it a “fetus” to remove the pressure of its humanity on a mother who doesn’t want it Michael: so you use that terminology to dehumanize the baby Brontë: no

[@catpyjamas]

That whole part of the discussion was her being blatantly disingenuous. When she states "I think you understand this because you CHOOSE to use baby", she's basically telling him, "look, you know the quiet part just like I do, must we really say it out loud for the audience?" She's telling him you're humanizing it to preserve its life, we're dehumanizing it so we can kill it for convenience, money, etc.

[@modern_disposition]

@@catpyjamas I know right? “Hey listen, it’s a lot easier to get mothers to kill their babies if we stop considering the babies human beings.” Disgusting.

[@janicephillips6813]

Basically she says the desire of the mother determines the value of the life of the unborn child. As a woman who has given birth to two living children and also suffered the trauma of the miscarriage of a desired child, it seems that the life of my unborn child is only valuable to society if I, the child's biological mother desire the child's life. The child's father has no say simply because he doesn't have to physically carry that child for nine months. But that same father is not allowed to abandon that child. He must pay child support until that child is 18 or self supporting.

[@modern_disposition]

@@janicephillips6813 there are so many moral contradictions in their argument. It’s honestly just so sad to see. I hope they realize at some point that the world is bigger than their interpretation of it, and that it doesn’t even come close to revolving around them.

[@JRS-j9m]

@@catpyjamas What's ironic is she's the one using manipulative language while accusing him of doing it.

[@SoiltoSoul-w6w]

I’m a doctor, not a second year medical student, and she is inflating out of pocket expenses for a woman with a healthy pregnancy on insurance, much less Medicaid, which a low income person qualifies for during pregnancy.

[@johnsittard7025]

If this woman represents the future of medical “professionals,” God help us.

[@JasonSmith-d1c]

Literally I'm scared

[@090403created]

She looks so evil

[@arielwhittington8906]

THIS is what many people have been warning about. When the profession & the education of it is controlled entirely by the pHARMaceutical industry, it is no longer the calling it once was! If they are not trained in ethics, and critical thinking skills nor possess the human capacity to value life it is just “business.” At that they no longer receive my respect, my ear, nor my “business!”

[@zs9652]

Yep. And the entire time she only used the argument from authority fallacy. No, using the societal and/or educational position of someone does not make your argument valid. The only use of authority and expert opinion statements is for sourcing the claims that you making.

[@MisguidedPolicyIsBurdensome]

He is on the throne. Fear not; he loves us all.

[@CThames90]

The best part is when she accuses us of using manipulative language to persuade emotion minutes after she proudly admitted drs are trained to do just that. Depending on the emotional state of the mother.

[@kdmitchell342]

Not to mention all the manipulation that goes on to push birthing women into interventions and C-sections

[@alejandroelicastillojimene6890]

Exactly what I thought.

[@Amae742]

would you look a veteran in the eye suffering from PTSD after war and say yOU KiLLED ANOTHER HUMAN BEING? would you look a child who had to make the tough decision of taking her parent off life support in the eye and say YOU MURDERED YOUR PARENT? how about...if a woman had to abort because she was going to DIE would you say YOU KILLED UR CHILD??? you clearly have no grasp on what she is saying and a complete and utter inability to sympathize with a living, breathing woman which is alarming and DIGUSTING.

[@christinabucheger6410]

If there is going to be a fair discussion on this issue, they should've agreed to common sense descriptions. 'Woke' terms just confuse an already tense issue.

[@dorothyclark8680]

YESYESYES

[@jonathanhunter3867]

If you consent to unprotected sex, you consent to possibly giving birth to a child. Personal accountability is not absent simply because theres a way to avoid the repercussions of it. This lady makes me sick.

[@mel23232]

Thank you!

[@bornagain1589]

Same here!

[@LordAizen-wh4yw]

@@tallboi4735 Nowhere was it suggested that consent was absent in what was said. I'd be careful to not apply fringe extremes to the majority of cases.

[@LordAizen-wh4yw]

​@@tallboi4735 You've a habit for hearing things that were never said. Nowhere did I say they didn't exist, nor am I acting as if they don't. That being said, we don't normalize a disgusting solution because of an extremely rare problem. That's just pure stupidity at that point.

[@LordAizen-wh4yw]

@@tallboi4735 I'm generally on the side of "the sins of the father don't extend to the child." However, rare exceptions aren't impossible either and I could be convinced to a reluctant middle ground for those exceptions. I still would think it a vile and cruel act though. However, don't make the mistake of assuming that 99% of all women who seek abortions are victims of these EXCEEDINGLY RARE circumstances. They do it out of pure selfishness and convenience which is truly disgusting to anyone with a functioning moral compass.

[@James.McGurl]

I am pregnant and what she shared was not a picture of a 9 week old fetus. All of my pregnancy apps show arms and legs, fingers and toes, eyes and ears forming on their head, they have all their organs have begun to develop. they are a tiny human about an inch in length.