MLM HORROR STORIES #28 | This is so inappropriate, relentless MLM pitches

[@HannahAlonzo]

I have been getting some comments questioning the validity of the 3rd story - I hear you, and I don’t disagree. I will absolutely be addressing this in detail in Horror Stories 29. Until this point I have always (perhaps naively) given people the benefit of the doubt as to the truth of their stories. It wasn’t until I started receiving comments on this video that it even crossed my mind that the 3rd story may not be true. And please know, the story may be true and I don’t intend to invalidate anyone’s experience. With that being said, it is of the utmost importance that the integrity of my channel is upheld and that I am only sharing factual and useful information in my videos. This has opened my eyes to some changes that need to be made and I’ll talk more about it in my next Horror Stories video. Please know I would never intentionally mislead anyone or share false information in my videos. I appreciate your understanding and support ❤️ EDIT: I have been in contact with the writer of the story and she has provided me with more confidential details/evidence to support the truth of her story. Although it's a truly shocking and horrifying experience, I do believe the story is true based on my conversations with the writer.

[@ZoeAlleyne]

It's not your fault for being trusting. That particular story just had so many red flags. Like apparently she was breaking the law and facing charges but wasn't arrested on the spot and was able to get to OPs hospital room? Hopefully the fact that people are sending you emails and could, theoretically, be questioned will make them less likely to lie and this was just a one off. Sorry you're dealing with this when what you are ultimately trying to do is reveal the truth.

[@jennteal5265]

More than being simply untrue (and that could certainly be the case), it strikes me as overly embellished. I don't doubt the accident, honestly, what I question is literally everything after her saying she was trying to get to a party 😅

[@chaoticneutralprofile5988]

I don't blame you for sharing the story. I do appreciate how well you're handling this! You're my favorite anti mlm channel

[@krisdiane]

@@jennteal5265 Yes. She lost me when she said the woman came in to her room. Hospitals are very strict about who is told your room number, and that woman would not have been taken away with her. I don't blame Hannah at all, and I do believe parts are probably true, but even with her update I don't believe the entire story happened. I do really hope this doesn't dissuade people from sharing their stories in the future for fear of being called a liar though. 🥺

[@missamanda2703]

I have been with you since like episode 5 or 6 I am a nurse by profession I. Will e-mail you my state certification of employment and certification if you ever need a professional fact check I would be happy and willing to use myself and my group of hospice RNs or the doctor who supervisors my area

[@tcort]

I got surprised with an MLM pitch once when I was with my partner. If you don’t want to be obvious, just rest your hand on your partner’s thigh and trace a pyramid with your finger.

[@schrdngrskat3847]

Haha! I love that idea 😂

[@paulettemoore47]

Great idea!

[@MaidMirawyn]

That’s a brilliant tip!

[@SephKane]

Thank you from the bottom of my triangle shaped heart

[@raquelfantoni2812]

My husband and I have a code, three taps or hand squeezes means “I love you” but five means “I want to leave now”. Very useful for social situations when you want to leave but don’t want to say it in front of others

[@milkteamachine]

Signing up drunk people is so scummy, if you’re not in a state to drive legally then you’re certainly not able to sign up for any kind of financial commitment :(

[@olingecko]

Especially if they are underage drunk people.

[@SammyLammy1D]

I believe you can't legally sign anything while intoxicated where I live (Sweden). But then, how do you prove you were intoxicated? It's definitely not okay and it shouldn't be legal. Edit: okay, you can sign while intoxicated, but if the one wanting you to sign gave you alcohol you could take it to court. Because then it would classify as ocher.

[@milkteamachine]

@@SammyLammy1D yeah, I was gonna say that it's illegal but I don't think it is in Germany either unless you can prove you were drugged or use it as part of a larger case 😅 but it should be!

[@toiletfrog]

Scummy, scammy, and entirely unethical! So messed up!

[@leeprice133]

In a lot of jurisdictions, a contract signed while intoxicated would be regarded as legal, but voidable. So basically, you may be able to later repudiate the contract on the grounds that you were intoxicated when you entered into it, but as you point out, that could be difficult to prove.

[@kaylarealtalk_safespace5127]

I don't even have the words for the car crash story. That sounds like my absolute worst nightmare. Thank goodness those babies were both okay. I was seriously tearing up waiting for the worst outcome of that story.

[@Akiku2]

I hope the woman steps on a stadium full of legos and metal planes.

[@kaylarealtalk_safespace5127]

"Pretending to be friends with people for your own financial gain is not a cute look." 👏 Ima need that on a t-shirt.

[@thechaosgoblin]

That 3rd story was absolutely revolting. I was already pissed when the Hun tried to justify running the red light because she had "sales to make" and claiming the other car "got in her way". Everything else left me flailing in helpless rage 😡

[@Eowynd]

I'm from Chile, and I want to say that we have some MLM here, but not at the level you guys have in the US. I think if you gave people a $17 x hour salary, and paid maternity leave (we have like 8 months here) a lot of this MLM would end (sorry for any mistakes, english is my second language)

[@Laurel_Lee]

Your English is fantastic. You have nothing to apologize for.

[@Eowynd]

@@Laurel_Lee thank You 💜💜💜💜

[@goldsilvertravel]

Not necessarily true. In the UK and Europe wages are higher but we still have MLMs.

[@Akiku2]

Your English is better than most Americans. Lmfao!

[@dianaalmeida6790]

@@goldsilvertravel her point was paid maternity leave. I'm Portuguese and maternity leave in Portugal sucks, it's only 3 months, but I live in Hungary and although the salaries are not very high here, they pay 2 full years of maternity leave, and surprise, surprise MLMs here barely survive. Mothers have more time to take care of their children without worrying about salaries because besides the monthly pay they also get at least two more extra money benefits.

[@natet3345]

The car accident story makes me vibrate with fury. 😡 💢 But then the Elsa line made me smile so big. It is abundantly clear that Frozen is inescapable. 😂

[@starlingswallow]

Just like an MLM 😉 well...no....they are escapable! 🥰👍🏻

[@mandy102384]

Yeah, I would have ended up in jail for assault on that one.

[@avencree]

@@mandy102384 I would have been in jail for murder.

[@SephKane]

LET IT GO

[@jennteal5265]

"How much is a lemon!? Like a DOLLAR!?" Pretty sure I bought an entire bag of lemons for $2.25 at Aldi yesterday.... I'll pass on the $100 oils, tyvm 😂

[@ZoeAlleyne]

It's a banana Michael, how much could it cost? 10 dollars??

[@hawaiianshirts4715]

I bet a fresh lemon would taste better too.

[@lauralarrabee7870]

Even the best lemons aka Ventura County lemons are .49 -.99 at Ralph’s!!!! (west coast Krogers)

[@threatlevelmidnightz1990]

East coast here and yes...lemons are about a dollar here

[@carriesheffield2126]

And one lemon can flavor more than one glass of water.

[@spooniejusticewarrior]

As an autistic person, i find it offensive that huns attempt to "cure" or "treat" autism at all, let alone essential oils.

[@alr5286]

Same same same

[@garnetstar28]

Same! Such garbage

[@PugandOwn]

I feel like it's also a pretty obvious bad idea to spend a ton of money on a product that smells very strongly on purpose, when you're planning on using it on a child with sensory issues who presumably has not chosen that specific smell for themself. like good job, now you've wasted your money to poison your kid and/or put them through sensory hell, ie quite possibly the one way to make the autism WORSE. some allistic people have no sense in their heads, istg...

[@xxoldmagicxx]

Ableist af

[@tezzanoia]

@@PugandOwn this right here is honestly so fucking true. I'm autistic too and can be quite sensitive to smell, to a point of tasting them when they're too strong (and by that I dont mean having deodorant or dry shampoo or hair spray particles in the air and tasting them, but literally having someone with a strong perfume on walk by and having a taste of it in my mouth), so I'm pretty sure these oils have the potential of being an absolute autistic nightmare (saying "have the potential" because I know smells can also be a nice stim, but only when you get to choose what you like)

[@Siyanibingelela]

Wouldn’t be surprised the Young Living hun had been “jumping on” her Instagram to do a selling pitch live while she was driving…

[@DocBree13]

Good point!

[@JamesQMurphy]

Those oily huns don’t just slide into your DMs, they _ooze_ into them!

[@marciedickey3799]

Honestly wouldn't be surprised if she crashed on purpose to get a captive audience 🤷‍♀️

[@oliviah1263]

Seriously… I see so many mlm huns post stories/lives while actively driving in their car. It’s insane.

[@kaylanek1]

@@JamesQMurphy ew ew ew 😂

[@tazlinarhetoric4543]

That car crash story is UNREAL. It's so shocking someone would be that deluded. I'm glad the family turned out okay

[@raspberryitalia3464]

In the first story, alcohol wasn't even the first manipulation tactic - the oldest guests in the room were 25 and that seemed to be very intentional due to one of the reps ignoring them after realizing they weren't as young and vulnerable as everyone else. That's the part that squicked me out. They were targeting as young as possible and then got them drunk. Yikes, yikes, yikes

[@melt3563]

"She is fine and is now an elsa-loving little lady" The sigh of relief that I just released was intense. So damn thankful that this mother and her babies are okay.

[@melt3563]

Phew, and then again when the lady from the makeup story said that she's living happily with her partner and their 2 precious cats 🥺

[@missv1598]

I would completely flip my lid if someone tried to pitch a mlm after a car crash especially with my child involved.

[@SingingCrowie]

Hannah, a life hack for you: most household oils will dissolve sticker residue. Any cooking oil, olive oil, mineral oil which is food-safe. Much cheaper alternatives but I think that implying that this is a harmful chemical because it dissolves sticker glie is bad and can be used to "prove" you don't know what you're talking about. One thing that baffles me is that essential oils are concentrated extracts and they are usually diffused in base oils for use. So it's super wasteful to use on sticker glue and also an insane idea to just basically ingest straight. Even if it's edible (some essential oils are toxic btw), it would taste horrible!

[@97Samii]

my mom just passed away April 28th & watching your and cc's videos have been my escape for the last week... thank you guys for your videos, I really appreciate all you do ❤️❤️

[@HannahAlonzo]

I am so sorry for your loss. Thinking of you ❤️

[@elainehill6504]

I was unfortunately part of the Amway cult for a few years in the 90's. The makeup and skin care products were high points items and were pushed pretty heavily. The makeup parties were called "beauty breaks" and we were encouraged to buy the sample kits and host as many as we could since they would really boost your PV. Of course the kits were very expensive, and you would be constantly needing to resupply them which is the real reason they would want all the women to buy them and do beauty breaks.

[@akaneakane1969]

The lady who literally caused a car accident & physically hurt that mother & child is some kind of mlm horror movie villain. Relentless doesn't even begin to cover it 😰

[@Gracemlr]

"felt like the little girl I never got to be" If the girl who sent in this story is in this comment section I just want to tell you this line brought such happy tears to my eyes. You just melted my heart

[@jessstevens2411]

I agree! My partner is a transgender lady and she never got to experience those things as a young person. It's so important!! Include our trans sisters!! ❤️

[@Elle_M717]

This story made me cry. This statement really touched my heart.

[@hippolyte90]

The woman in story 5 could reach out to the anti-MLM community. Maybe there is some local social media group where she might find people like her who want to find friends who won't pitch you their MLM and ditch you when you're not interested.

[@nicoledoubleyou]

Hearing about the little boy bleeding from his head brought tears to my eyes, my baby boys are 2 and 9 months and I'm pregnant again too, I can't even imagine

[@lmsmith015]

GIRL, GET THOSE SPONSORSHIPS!

[@amandahodges7945]

Been on a deep dive in your channel for weeks now. Keep it up. I never realized how awful these “companies” are. I fell for Beachbody hard and am now realizing how toxic their programs really are. Thank you for all you do.

[@ryleighsweet2375]

Have you checked out Briannah Jewel? She has some really unique anti-MLM content centered around discussing the health and fitness claims companies make (she's a personal trainer and studying to be a dietician). Most of what she covers is Beachbody.

[@TheJbriskk]

I wish Amway was loud and proud on social media so that more creators can expose the OG company and cover it more. It’s so sad to hear all of these experiences and people only wanting to be Friends just to pitch a scam smh 🤦🏽‍♀️

[@colors4vana293]

Amway is literally the worst MLM experience I've ever had. They are so fake and go out of their way to "befriend" you just to recruit. They even go so far as to go to stores across town from where they live and prowl as couples to recruit people.

[@TheJbriskk]

@@colors4vana293 my boyfriend is in it so I know all about it. The fake friendships and love bombing is disgusting

[@colors4vana293]

@@TheJbriskk I hope your bf gets out that is one mlm that dials the cult vibes up to 1000.

[@TheJbriskk]

@@colors4vana293 I hope so too. After multiple confrontations, he’s already made it clear he’s not leaving until it gets shut down 🥲🫠

[@colors4vana293]

@@TheJbriskk aww man he's in deep, I'm so sorry! I hope he can see the light.

[@JustKeepStickingWithChristine]

Thank you Hannah for the sensitive approach to Ann's story. There's such an attack on trans folks right now, particularly women. So seeing this gives me a small bit of hope for humanity back.

[@mscptizzy]

Someone once said "well if you aren't a seller type, that's ok! It's the same as just talking to your ex to get them back!" And I shouted "who ever wants an ex back!" I was ignored the rest of the meeting.

[@HeyHonHorror]

Story 4: honestly I am surprised they pitched you the business, considering all the anti-LGBTQ "guidance" I received while in Amway. We were basically taught to sell LGBTQ individuals products but not the business since "they wouldn't fit the culture." But that could be an exclusively LTD thing.

[@slimeboyshane]

i love these videos and as someone who’s of the lgbt+ community it makes me very happy to hear the care and kindness you use when speaking of the trans woman and her nb partner

[@capercaillieskye]

I never understood the "lemon essential oil in water" thing either XD It makes no sense. Actual lemons cost a tiny fraction of what an essential oil does, they taste better and mix better in water than oils, and while there's no evidence at all that the oil is safe for ingestion or at all helpful, there's plenty of evidence that real lemons are both of those things 😂

[@kedb621]

Same with peppermints grow a plant that grows like a weed and put a few leaves in your water…DONE

[@GidgetAGogo]

Your “just squeeze a lemon into water! How much is a lemon, a dollar?” Gave me “how much could a banana be, ten dollars?” And I’ve been giggling ever since

[@JamesQMurphy]

I love how you read all of these horror stories with kindness, compassion, and dignity. I also feel like it’s why your inbox is full _and_ why your channel is doing so well. You’ve created such a wonderful safe place!

[@bekalynn1994]

I have a daughter with autism that has agressive tendencies when not feeling well or is stressed. I was grasping at straws to get help for her. The wait list to see a pediatric psychologist was over a year long wait. She was having agressive episodes at school. I needed a quick fix to get us through our year wait. I had heard the buz that oils could help. I sought out an oil hun. She was so nice and kind as I sat in her home bawling my eyes out. She pulled out her oil bible and mixed me several options. She was so nice she did not charge me anything. I think she was hoping that I would be back as a regular customer. I tried all the potions religiously for 3 months. I saw no difference in her behavior. I told this hun and she truely felt bad for my situation and never charged me anything. I was at a very low point at that time. Im very surprised she didnt try to wrangle me in at that low point. I do have to say if it would have worked I probably would have joined and went around the world preaching its praises. Thank goodness it didnt work. 😆

[@milkteamachine]

I'm an autistic adult and just wanna say, obviously never ingest the oils and there is no "cure" for autism, but aromatherapy can be really helpful, I use essential oils to help calm me down when I'm in sensory distress or as part of my nighttime routine and after a few tries I found ones that work for me. I don't feel comfortable recommending anything but maybe talk to your doctor about it if you still have a diffuser :)

[@hellenmuka7207]

I'm from Kenya, we have a lot of beauty products MLMS, cutlery mlms, those that sell flasks, cookware but people just don't recognize...but the dust shoes of the salespeople at my door just tells me they are mlms...but they don't recruit.... A friend almost tried to recruit me to sell Fashion Jewelry....cheap horrible stuff

[@lauraannette69]

Oh my goodness! I want to be friends with the women who had so many so called friends pitch her than abandon her when she said no. It just breaks my heart that she has no friends because she cannot trust.

[@PriestessMikuHimuro]

Jon Taffer would have a fit about that bar in the first story 😂

[@0210jessika]

I was in an MLM for 4 years. Looking back I feel terrible for the negative impact that I most likely had on a lot of people. The scary thing is that I truly believed that I was doing a good service and making a positive impact on others. I am so happy to be out and I see how manipulative MLMS are. Yikes!

[@bobbii]

You can ACTUALLY fit Babbel into the pockets of your day 😆

[@kimcaprese1044]

Hi Hannah! Just wanted to leave a quick Thank You. I appreciate you, your content and the commitment. What I want to point out is my gratitude of how you present your work. Don't get me wrong, I am a potty mouth, swearing like an old man. But you refraining from such, makes it possible to watch your videos when my kids are around. Not that they would really listen (6 yr/o twin boys) but they have a selective curse word filter (Mama, don't listen to bad words). With some other creators I wear headphones but after some time they bother me plus background noises are muted, which is absolutely detrimental when having small children 😄 So this deserves its own shout-out, aside from the exquisite content you put out so regularly. Thank you. Love, Kim 😘❤

[@georginakiersten8383]

I'm just still shocked at the story of the Pregnant woman. Thank god her kids are okay but to go that far with the pitching when it's clearly an emergency situation and show zero remorse? Yeegods.

[@maryeckel9682]

And blame the victim!

[@jennifersandahl4603]

I’m still a little shocked by that one. The “so? I gave sales to make” made me burn. The rest made ME want to scream at this YL woman.

[@WololoLlamma69]

When you said she that one YL hun started pitching again IN THE HOSPITAL, I had to rewind and listen again. WHAT??

[@WololoLlamma69]

WAIT AND IN THE COURTROOM. This lady was unhinged.

[@EllieofAzeroth]

If the oils hun told me she was safe in the crash because she was using her oil blend, I would've promptly introduced her to my pepper spray blend

[@furiscafynn6275]

I knew MLM's were a thing, because I watch a lot of people doing deep dives on preachers, evangelists, churches in America and they're often connected. I didn't realise how far or how bad it was until I began watching you. Blitzed through a lot of your videos, and love these MLM horror stories! I don't think they're much of a thing in the UK (I hope?) but getting informed is super important.

[@chloeruth9001]

I’m a Christian (not MLM hun church person tho lol!) from the UK and I got into watching Hannah in a very similar way! MLMs are def not as common here, but I seem to have had more contact with UK MLMs than most; I’ve got a family member in deep into Utility Warehouse, and a friend who is in FM Fragrance. I think I might write my own “horror story” as my contact has been pretty awful, looking back!

[@FireVixen164]

MLMs definitely exist in the UK, but I think that the UK rules make them much less predatory... I'd be interested in learning more about the different rules worldwide!

[@steruss9481]

Two of the big UK MLMs are surprisingly Ann Summers and The Body Shop, also FM Fragrances and Utility Warehouse are two more traditional ones.

[@furiscafynn6275]

@@steruss9481 I forget Body Shop is an MLM but Ann Summers too?!?!? Wow...

[@furiscafynn6275]

@@FireVixen164 That would be a genuinely interesting video. Take an MLM that is across the world and see how it adapts to the various laws

[@SephKane]

Oh, and I have autism too and so far nothing helps for my meltdowns or spirals. If somebody suggested to me to use oils during one of my meltdowns, heaven help them and their precious oils.

[@annadenys9345]

Yesss as someone from New Zealand I have never ever had an encounter with MLM's in person, I heard about pyramid schemes being bad as a child but honestly think a lot of our country would be easy targets as we just don't have the exposure. Love the content, so bingeable

[@karobythell4425]

Norwex , Doterra and Amway are well known MLMs operating in NZ as was Mary Kay , and a lot of people have been scammed out of large amounts of $ by these companies , even in little old backwoodsy NZ ( I am a NZer too )

[@weebiebaby4545]

when i was in cosmetology school we had a lesson on essential oils and we were told DO NOT apply essential oils directly to skin or ingest them!!!! if you want to apply essential oils to ur skin use a base oil literally just any basic oil that has no scent or additives olive oil could even work essential oils are too potent on their own

[@SlayerPrincess]

I work at a health food store and we have to tell customers everyday that they cannot ingest essential oils and if they are going to use them topically they must dilute them in a carrier oil like coconut oil or jojoba. Essential oils are so incredibly potent and concentrated, it burns your skin on contact which begs the question…what would they do to the delicate mucosal lining of your throat and stomach? Essential oils are great for aromatherapy and putting in a diffuser but that has its limits dude!

[@ellenkarlsson9490]

*Just a note on using lemon oil to remove adhesive:* The adhesive dissolving properties in lemon oil is in fact the fat in the oil. You could use cooking oil or butter to do the same thing. Just because lemon oil can remove labels does not make it harsh in any way.

[@Gurkhyvel]

I feel so sorry for that person who said they don’t have any friends! Hey we can be friends, I don’t have an mlm pitch I promise! 💖

[@jennteal5265]

Same! It's so sad

[@BeckhaDoyle]

I came here to say this! Happy to be friends, I live in Ireland though!

[@luckyneko1]

I've always thought the saddest thing in the world for a human, a cat, a dog, etc is not having a single person who cares for you. It's totally heartbreaking to be unwanted by anyone. 💔

[@DocBree13]

Me too! These MLMs are having such an impact on society above and beyond scamming people out of money. Im disabled and only have one friend, myself, and I’d be happy to be friends with the author or OP, too!

[@Mama_Bear524]

Happened to me too. Was so desperate for a friend I didn’t realize at first what was happening. It’s really not ok that they do that.

[@rayspace6362]

I started following you when you were around 6-6.5K, and it was literally few months back. Your growth is so inspiring and well deserved Hannah! It is so entertaining to have this playing around in the back when Im doing mundane tasks.

[@RR-VanityInKnickers]

Here on KZbin, ChubbyEmu does medical videos on specific cases and one he covered was on a toddler ingesting a bottle of essential oils (winter green I believe), how he presented in the ER, and the resolution of the case.

[@anacthompson]

THE QUEEN HAS POSTED!!! Also, so happy for the sponsors on the last videos! This one’s helps a lot haha my fiancée is learning my language (Portuguese) and this is awesome. I’m also writing my horror stories for the past two weeks. At some point I’ll finish haha Thank you for posting, it makes my work day more enjoyable 😊

[@HannahAlonzo]

Thanks for your support Ana! Babbel would be an excellent tool for him to learn Portuguese!

[@hellaluigi5252]

I love these longer videos because I can put one on while I’m cooking, plate, eat, and pretend like I’m going to do dishes while I finish the video :)

[@senjas7464]

I would like to point out that butter or cooking oil are also good at removing adhesive. So I wouldn’t necessarily say “why would you ingest something that removes adhesive”. More just thinking that there’s way cheaper solutions for doing that than lemon oil.

[@okaytessa2481]

story 4 is the most literal execution of "gas light, gate keep, girl boss" i've ever heard. absolutely hate that they took advantage of her during such a vulnerable time. i hope that since then she's been able to have lots of validating, happy times with great friends who have no shitty ulterior motives.

[@katringabrielle4672]

Interestingly enough I only had run ins with huns, who were men. The first one worked for Herbalife and started talking to me at the tram stop. After saying no to the opportunity very politely he told me that I’m making a mistake because I could definitely loose some weight. The second guy wrote to me on instagram (he was with a financial mlm). After saying no because I already have a career I’m totally satisfied with he called me delusional and that I cannot be seriously happy with my career. He degraded what I do for a living and basically called me stupid and my life sad. They both were pretty short interactions but they left me horrified and unfortunately feeling a bit bad about myself. Men in the industry seem to be even more aggressive and openly hurtful

[@roguestowl2280]

It never occurred to me that Young Living is the only brand that’s “seed to seal” certified is because Young Living trade marked that phrase 🤦🏻‍♂️

[@kedb621]

Doterra created their own “certification” too

[@kaw8473]

I'm so glad you are tackling the ingestion of oils. Remember that oil manufacturers can sometimes be unscrupulous so you don't know what they cut some of them with.

[@hazykitchen]

When you said that you shouldn’t ingest lemon oil because it also removes adhesives, I couldn’t help but think about using Coke to clean your car engine lol! I love your content and definitely agree you shouldn’t ingest essential oils - just thought that was funny! (makes me rethink my Diet Coke consumption lol) Keep up the great work!

[@JamesQMurphy]

I was thinking almost the exact same thing… although it was that Coke can remove car paint as well!

[@aking4766]

It will also help remove the enamel from your teeth, etc. and so on regarding many protective surfaces/layers of the body...all while pretty much lighting money on fire with the average "earnings")" 🤦🏼‍♀️ 😬 ☠

[@bethewalt7385]

Diet coke is 100 times worse than regular coke with real sugar, it's the aspartame used to sweeten, it's a carcinogen, please, please read up on aspartame and then don't use it again, so so bad for you, do you have children? Do it for them...

[@havenk.5226]

The car wreck story chills me to the bone, I’m sorry you had to go back and ask her if it was true, but I’m glad we got the confirmation that it was, because that story is truly revolting and it shows just how far someone will go when they’re in an MLM. You always say “people wouldn’t behave this way if they weren’t in an MLM” and this story is the PERFECT example of that.

[@ExSharkV]

Since it's teacher appreciation week my mother has been getting gifts from her students. Apparently, one of the moms is a seller for Paparazzi and gave all the teachers a necklace with some "care instructions." The Care instructions basically said: "Avoid the 5 S's: Do not sleep, shower, sweat, swim, or spray (hairspray/perfume) in your jewelry. Do not use jewelry cleaner and clear nail polish can help prevent discoloration." She also gave a pamphlet on how to join her "team." My mom felt bad about it but she's not planning on wearing the necklace.

[@kairosexe]

as an autistic person nothing grinds my gears more than essential oil huns trying to say their oils will somehow "help" with autism. sure, lavender can be calming during a meltdown but only really for the smell, any smell that someone finds comforting would suffice for them. but the bigger issue i have with it is the idea that autism needs to be fixed or alleviated somehow. its so subtle and so common it almost flies under the radar but its one of the most ableist things i think anyone could say or think and i hear it an alarming amount from mlm reps. it shouldn't be a thing of "how do i stop my kid from being autistic", it should be approached as "how can i help and understand my kid and get them any accommodations or support they need to avoid severe distress/meltdowns". they still see autism as a disease that needs a cure as opposed to a disability that should be accepted and accommodated for.

[@tezzanoia]

The mom of a friend of mine is in an mlm and literally keeps telling him, her own autistic child, that her mlm diet and supplement shit can "cure autism" and stuff like that. Needless to say that we constantly make fun of it when she's not around, but proably also needless to say that he's quite hurt by that behaviour. I hate that this mindset in so engraved into many neurotypical's brains, seriously. Stop wanting to alter the literal wiring of our brains, let us be and alter the circumstances around us that aren't autism friendly instead of us ffs, that would at least actually help. But sadly for many it isn't about how to help accomodate us, but how to make us the least of an inconvienience to them

[@beckys2825]

😱 I've watched SO MANY MLM horror story videos and still that third one had me speechless. W.T.A.F?!

[@chilltheheckoutwithava1454]

Insulting someone’s appearance to sell them something…. Just wow.

[@laurielynne2006]

Congrats on 39K!! I started to follow you around 25K and I don’t feel like that was that long ago! Your channel is one that I have the bell set and I pretty much click on your video right away (as I am able). I love your content and your intentions to educate people about the vile nature of MLMs! You’re doing great work❤️

[@ghjgme]

About 7 years ago one of my trans friends considered becoming a Mary Kay rep, but after going to a training class, we were both VERY uncomfortable. There was clapping, and accolades, all the women empowerment talk. It felt super cult-y. I was just there to be supportive, she wanted someone she was comfortable with to go with her because she wasn't super comfortable in new women only spaces yet (we met through roller derby). I am glad we both walked away unscathed.

[@_stillborn]

I doubt they would accept a man in the first place.

[@severalwolves]

@@_stillborn alright, settle down

[@Ixc795]

​​@@_stillbornOP said "she" for her trans friend. So we can assume it's a trans woman. Please, keep your transphobia for yourself nobody needs that 🙂

[@kriscynical]

As a queer lady with a very close MTF trans friend, I adore that you two met through roller derby.😂

[@kriscynical]

​@@_stillborn A tasteless username for a tasteless person... at least you're somewhat self-aware, I guess. 🙄 Take your transphobic bigotry elsewhere.

[@Sewingistherapy]

It's so sad how many people lose friendships over these things. I've lost several. I'm so glad these videos are here.

[@JustHarperGray]

Holy cow love that you are getting so many sponsors! Make that money girl!!!!

[@khaleesireyna731]

The commentary about how getting everyone drunk is a pitch tactic makes me even more happy that I quit drinking almost 2 years ago. Now I kinda want to see how MLM huns using that tactic will react to my saying I don't drink.

[@AtmosphereASMR]

If I were on the receiving end of story #3 I would have LOST IT

[@oneclout6643]

From being in an MLM I know that one of their tactics is called the 5 touch rule. At least 5 was our limit. Once you make a new friend wait until you touch them 5 times before you ask them if they'd be interested in your "business". A touch is a handshake, a hug, anything where you make physical contact with them. For online friends there was a little longer amount of time before you brought it up. MLM's make you make friends for your business, not for you.

[@maryeckel9682]

That makes me feel sick.

[@marlyd]

Can't imagine having to connect with someone while having to count how often I touch them

[@nmfitts]

For number 6: I don't see a moral obligation to pay her back--she pressured and coerced a 17-year-old into a debt when you told her you didn't have the money. She was an adult and this is an entirely foreseeable outcome.

[@AlyssaPerrine]

im so thankful to see such kind trans women tell their stories on your channel. I'm nonbinary so i don't relate to Anne's journey exactly, but i understand certain pieces. knowing she was preyed on is truly so heartbreaking. i think its because i relate a LOT to her (i'm also autistic so making friends for me has been really hard to navigate)

[@kitashlin]

Hannah, you really are the classiest content creator on KZbin. It’s always such a pleasure to see a new video from you. ☀️

[@HannahAlonzo]

Wow, thank you for your sweet words!

[@kitashlin]

Of course, they are absolutely true. Have a wonderful day. 😊

[@elizabethmccready]

I feel deeply for the person in story #5. It's the most insidious and infuriating part of MLMs to me. I don't hardly trust people anymore to not see me as a sale. Making friends as an adult is so hard and it gets even worse when huns are out there looking for a sale or a new recruit.

[@tokiobabe99]

The funniest things about these videos are how many mlms get advertised on every commercial break

[@fridayhawks-spangenberg8979]

As an autistic trans woman who only came out a year ago, story 4 hits me so hard.

[@Mike_Cant_Golf]

And the providing drinks for big decisions... that's why a lot of Harley Davidson Dealerships usually provide free beer, helps sales. And I don't think that is fully legal to sign while intoxicated. But that and this first story are so alike with the drinks

[@KDu400]

I went to a craft show this weekend with my mom and every other booth was an MLM. How are your oils, ugly leggings, and wax melts that you DIDNT make, a craft?!? There was a lady directly across from a Scentsy hun who was actually selling her own homemade wax melts and I made sure to go check her stuff out 😂

[@lizzyaine3293]

These oil huns pushing people to drink the oils is so concerning. I work in a store that sells essential oils, my boss is a nurse who is also trained in aromatherapy, she tells us to make sure people know NEVER to ingest essential oils. The only one we okay for that is peppermint oil and it’s a drop on the back of the hand to lick to open the nasal passage. Also if they’re like tea tree where people apply it to the skin we have to tell them to always use a carrier oil or cream, never just straight onto the skin. There’s also oils we can’t let people with things like epilepsy, high blood pressure or pregnant people use! These untrained huns are pushing dangerous claims about their oils and I can’t stand it Edit: please don’t use oils on anyone with autism!!!! My sister has autism, their senses are more sensitive and all it does is give them headaches ugh

[@tezzanoia]

Some autistic people actually do like oils and their smell, a friend of mine has a few different ones in his box of stim tools. BUT for many it can 100% be a sensory nightmare, you're absolutely right (I tend to taste strong smells and usually it's horrible). And for sure essential oils won't "cure" autism lmao. Thanks for speaking out for us autistics and helping to spread the word that we do not need essential oils pushed on us by anyone

[@lizzyaine3293]

@@tezzanoia oh absolutely! I can fully understand that. I just mean don’t use them because they think it’ll “cure” them. It bothers me how many parents or otherwise well meaning people want to “cure” their child’s autism or listen to autism speaks crap. Personally I have ADHD and I love oils but my sister who has autism hates them so I never use them around her.

[@KinniMoo]

I swear, every time I watch a video, I remember another MLM I had some contact with. I need to send my story…it involves a supplement fed to chickens to give them a leaner, less fatty body content. How is Zeke?? ♥️♥️

[@pinkskiestoday]

I would like to hear this story👍

[@aimeesparkles2152]

As someone is LGBTQIA+ also, it makes me so angry that this MLM hun really manipulated that person's loneliness and longing to fit in. Here in the UK I think we have less MLMs but it's still around and honestly, as someone who is quite lonely, I could see myself falling into one of these not for the money (not that there is money lol) but just for the sense of community it promises to provide. A friend from a community group who I hadn't seen throughout the pandemic actually reached out to me with her MLM last year or so and I can't tell you how excited I was to think that she was reaching out to actually do friend things rather than just recruit me. It really is hurtful and if someone is already lonely and/or in a bad place, that sort of manipulation can push someone over the edge.

[@tash4270]

On the international viewers thing, I'm Australian and watch your content ☺️ mlms definitely exist here, my mother did Avon, I've been pitched Jamberry and Tupperware, Party Lite, and my girlfriend who is Dutch noted that in the Netherlands there seems to be a lot of those crypto nft exchange mlms targeting young men. There's no escape from them 😅

[@Allisonsaul]

I’m one of those international viewers, in Ireland! I was pitched JuicePlus+ over 10 years ago (by an American actually 😂) and maybe two other half-hearted other pitches. (Irish people are too mortified to be pushy about anything 😆) Yet, I also watch loads of anti-MLM content, and you’re one of my favourites! ♥️

[@lycianempire]

You can overdose on... anything. There's a famous case with a Sacramento radio station contest and a listener who died after drinking too much water.

[@sophiebla9195]

I'm so sad for the person who said they don't have friends. Please keep trying and eventually you will find good friends!

[@journeywithrosie]

Thank you ❤️❤️ I wrote that story and appreciate your comment, i havent put myself out there in a while, not gonna lie. But im hoping to try again soon!

[@isabellamorris7902]

I'm unsurprised that the woman in the car crash story was high. That is the only way her behaviour makes the remotest sense.

[@michelmcgregor1684]

I live for your “MLM Horror Stories” days!!!!!

[@TheKickshaws]

I rarely swear. But when that woman said “so? I have sales to make” I said OH F*** NO out loud. ESPECIALLY after the writer described her son all bloodied because my son is his age and that made my heart hurt. EDIT: I wrote that only halfway through the story. I’m so glad she was arrested. I try not to wish horrible things on people’s but I hope karma bites her HARD. EDIT 2: New slogan: “Got a problem? There’s an MLM for that!” 😂

[@khaosandlightliberation1980]

Thank you for sharing a trans person’s story 🖤🖤 we’re not all straight, cis, or Christian/Abrahamic. Just pulled in on promises of community and inclusion due to “good values” even if there’s completely different religions. it’s really important to hear all people’s stories, as I used to be in exactly the same boat as Ann (in the cult way- I’m still trans and always will be. Transitioning back is very rare). And there’s so many of us. And how you didn’t treat her any differently from any of the other stories 🖤🖤🖤 blessed be and much love #PolytheisticNonBinary

[@wolfsmaid6815]

why is this a top comment despite having only 30 upvotes though? You people are not special or anything.

[@neriumkristina]

Margarine, butter and olive oil removes labels because they are greasy, it isn't a toxic, non-toxic issue.

[@dansunedisco]

Love your content, Hannah! I stumbled on your video thanks to the YT algorithm and I’ve spent the past few weeks binging through your entire MLM playlist. Thank you for dismantling what’s wrong with MLMs in a kind & compassionate way - I’ve never been in one, but I’ve seen more than enough people get roped in and dropped. Keep up the great work, can’t wait to see more.

[@Zavrou]

Story #5 - i can relate to this so much. I think the writer and i can be a good friend since we are similar in age too

[@PrinceCryBaby]

That car crash story is the scariest one I’ve heard on this channel so far. I’m shaking !!!!!!!

[@citychicken9949]

I'm just glad that the mom in the 3rd story is ok and both her babies are doing wonderful.

[@Sate12]

I was in school for Massage Therapy when Doterra first came out. Our Aroma therapy instructor said Absolutely DO NOT use Doterra for anything and never never drink the oils

[@caygabie4100]

Hi Hannah, half way through your video, I have had 3 mlm advertisements so far...glad they are wasting ad dollars here!!! 😁 No takers? Awesome!

[@YurTypicalVegasMom702]

I can listen to you for hours! Your voice is so calming. I’m glad you were suggested to me by KZbin. You are the only anti MLM channel I’ve ever watch.

[@cbloom82]

For the writer of the clip #5 email, firstly I am so sorry that happened to you. I know how hard it is to make friends as an adult too and really felt your pain. If I might make a friendly suggestion, please consider doing some local volunteer work. Most communities have volunteer boards that can connect you with legitimate non-profits that need assistance. The worst case is that you get to do some fulfilling work for a cause you care about; the best is that you'll meet some new potential, like-minded friends. Best of luck to you!

[@journeywithrosie]

I’m the writer for #5, soon I will be moving back to NYC and I plan to connect with a loca church that hosts lots of volunteer opportunities! Hopefully some people are interested in getting closer 😅

[@JenniferMo]

Hey I'm watching from NZ too! I was roped into herblife back in the day. I wasn't recruited thankfully but bought the products for a bit and they ruined my insides! I was in and out of hospital wondering what was wrong with me. It was only when I stopped taking the products when I went on holiday and forgot them that all the pain and problems magically went away!