MLM TOP FAILS #24 | Most disgusting way to promote Monat, anti-MLMers must hate their lives

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[@kristyrussell1748]

What a video. Going through the comments, it seems many of us have had a miscarriage. Is the first clip absolutely disgusting? Yes. However; I'm thankful I got to bond with you wonderful wonderful women and we could share our experiences. We should be able to share WITHOUT an agenda. Love you ladies! 💖💖

[@HannahAlonzo]

My heart goes out to everyone who has had to experience the trauma of losing a baby. That is something no woman should have to endure yet it is so so common. Thinking of you ❤️

[@kristyrussell1748]

@@HannahAlonzo Thank you! 🥰🥰

[@amberamenda1607]

Ah yes, the actual community that we can find on the internet 💕 Not one created by an mlm

[@texastea5686]

I'm 45 and have 2 teens. But I had a miscarriage when my first born was about a year old. Sadly, miscarriages are a lot more common than you'd imagine.

[@cegallion]

U(,

[@omgdudeitsnati]

“If it scares me, it probably means I’m supposed to do it” I say as I approach a black bear and try to fight it

[@FortBaker2011]

I hope they don’t give this advice to their kids!

[@emilyblythe4618]

Time to put my hand in a blender!

[@atrain84]

Best comment ever

[@jessest.claire9572]

This is a classic Christian viewpoint.

[@melaninandaura9713]

Or marry it lmao

[@10feralratsinacoat76]

Being at work while miscarrying is probably the worst opportunity pitch I’ve ever heard ever.

[@HannahAlonzo]

AGREED

[@Ixc795]

Yeah, from everyone who is not in an MLM, it's a huge red flag

[@Mels0103]

That last woman has some strong "If you're homeless just buy a house" energy

[@DuhLikeTotally]

"I don't want to work til I'm 65 and retire with a pension" well that's a relief, because in your MLM you'll definitely be working until the day you die because there is no retirement plan

[@Honey_Daddy]

Stop lying. She won't be working until the day she dies. She will be working for an entire century after having died because the MLM controls her brain and they won't let that brainwash go to waste until all that is left is a skeleton.

[@B.H.56]

All those wage slaves working at Target - even if NO ONE wants to buy anything at Target for 8 hours, they STILL get paid. Imagine that.

[@summerbummer1930]

Right, like what a strange outlook. 🤣 Cracks me up because my dad retired at 62 from being a friggin custodian for a state university. His retirement payout included a lump sum payment that was enough my parents paid off their home, PLUS monthly payments that have since transferred to my mom since he passed. Like, she's set. She's good. From a janitor career! But an MLM is more beneficial lol ok.

[@skinsey85]

Nah. They probably wouldn't even make it to 65 in their mlm because it isn't sustainable for that long for multiple reasons lol

[@lexwithbub]

Hannah's facial expression at that part was just 🥴 😂

[@carrieshirley6167]

As a woman/mother that has suffered a miscarriage, I just can't fathom the idea that being able to still work "my business" while losing a baby is something to brag about and consider a selling point to other mothers. It is just really gross. This was not it.

[@HannahAlonzo]

Absolutely not something to be bragging about. Truly disgusting.

[@carrieshirley6167]

Also..making a video while miscarrying would NEVER even cross my mind. That was the last thing that I would have thought to do at the time. Yeah...no.

[@amberamenda1607]

Even if you are okay after the trauma, that doesn’t mean you should just present it so blatantly and descriptively 😞 so many women suffer miscarriages and I can’t imagine being blind sided with that memory or experience at random

[@HannahAlonzo]

This is such a good point. Imagine just clicking through on Instagram and stumbling across her story. How awful…

[@grammasscotsgirl]

I am all for opening up discussions regarding miscarriages. All too often, women who have gone through it feel as if it is supposed to be "kept quiet" and feel they have no one to talk to. But THIS is NOT what I had in mind. Hugs to all who have endured such a loss. I went through six, followed by nine years of infertility and then when I did get pregnant again almost lost that baby many times and was on bedrest for the entire pregnancy. My little miracle turns 21 this year (no, not 21 months lol).

[@MissyJ]

Calls her dead baby a "thing" and then goes on about how thankful she is to be able to work on the toilet. Yep. Im done with humanity today.

[@amieparham7657]

When I lost my baby at 9 weeks, I had an appointment around 9 AM, an ultrasound at 10, and was in the hospital having a D&C surgery by 2:30 PM (with barely any time to process between breaking the news to my children, making arrangements for them to spend the night at my parents' house, and transporting them). It took me at least 3 weeks before I could lay down in my bed at night to sleep without bursting into tears. Even thought it's nearly been a year, and I'm thrilled to be pregnant again with a healthy baby girl, I still am crying just remembering how hard that was. This poor woman must have been so manipulated by others in this business. I pray she gets a break and is able to grieve, truly, without working.

[@HannahAlonzo]

I am so sorry for your loss but I am elated to hear about your baby girl! ❤️

[@teslag23]

It’s not fair that you had to go through that. I’m sending all my love to you, genuinely.

[@Tottosmile]

what I hated most about school was how there was always homework, so I was never able to "clock out" and fully relax during semesters. it was horrible and I'll try my best to never have to feel like that again. don't know why mlmers try to glorify it

[@HannahAlonzo]

Yes so true!!

[@luvzdogz]

I felt the same way about school! And I agree with you about not wanting to replicate that now.

[@mandylee3862]

100%!! My 9-5 job now is such a relief compared to the constant stress I felt while in school and sooo much better for my mental health.

[@Pippa87]

The WORST part of that miscarriage clip is it actually could have been empowering. It could have opened up a conversation, it could have taken a step to making something that women blame themselves and their bodies for more understood. But she made it a selling point. Vile. I won’t say what I want to say because your comments and channel is pretty classy so…just fill in the blanks

[@karenkelly4385]

Wow. As someone who has had two miscarriages, this is really beyond the pale and sickening. Everyone deals with their grief in different ways but that is really beyond. :-(

[@HannahAlonzo]

I'm so sorry you had to go through that. Using that to promote an MLM is unacceptable.

[@megnichlemons]

I can agree. Hearing her mention the miscarriage very emotionally but in the next breath it goes to selling. I'm like what, how can you? That's so wrong. I had four miscarriages before I had my girl's. That's just disgusting.

[@BladeX11883]

I agree as someone who also had two miscarriages, this is disturbing.

[@ninareppert7746]

There are no words.

[@kaylanek1]

I'm really sorry. Seeing some of my friends go through that just makes me so sad. I can't imagine being the one going through it. I hope you are doing well.

[@corinne4562]

I’m so sick of them shitting on 9-5s.... I love my 9-5... and i get guaranteed pay and benefits and retirement...

[@sarahbennett7180]

This first girl is so sad. This is the issue with toxic positivity. I feel for her when she gets out and realizes she never processed this horrible experience and hope she sees the light soon and gets the help she needs.

[@user-bd5qo9os4b]

Who leaves specialty nursing for an mlm!? WHYYYYY!????

[@bunnylacy2097]

A lot of nurses get burnt out. It’s a thankless job at times. You get verbally abused often. It’s very physically and mentally draining. Not everyone can handle or continue handling it after years of it. An MLM isn’t where you should if you’re feeling burnt out on your current job though but she likely wasn’t aware of that at the time and now it seems like she’s high enough on the pyramid to make some money… maybe. Honestly she was helping a lot people as a nurse than with the MLM…. Which makes it really weird that she’s talking about how she loves this job so much because she gets to help women… but she helped women being a nurse too. But basically, sometimes nursing becomes too much after while.

[@dracodomitor6676]

Because she was a crappy nurse who was very underpaid apparently

[@ElifDeSimone]

As a nurse, I’m appreciative that I went into this field after listening to these MLM stories, but at the same time, there’s a lot of burn out in this field. You don’t know if the next nurse is coming into their shift and just when you think you’re about to go home, you’re mandated to do a double shift. The great thing about nursing is that you’re not tied to bed side nursing or working strictly in a hospital or nursing home, there are so many other nursing opportunities where you can have a flexible schedule and vacation time, those jobs are usually case management jobs.

[@mindyourownbusinessshhh1458]

I have a feeling she wasn't very good at being a nurse and probably got fired. I know people who suddenly changed jobs and pretended they chose to quit, but they just didn't want to admit they actually got fired

[@AugustMooon]

This woman cracks me up. I am a 1 income household. I don't have a husband or partner to rely on for a safety net. I bought a house on my own about 5 years ago and would love to quit my job and " follow my heart" but there are bills to pay and when you live in this place called reality you can't listen to these brainwashed sheep and find yourself living on the street. I feel so bad for people that are so gullible and fall victim to these scams. Thanks for helping to expose them in a straightforward and educated way.

[@HannahAlonzo]

Thanks for your support Megan!!

[@Kelseyzj]

I would like to inform you all that I am a super model married to a Nigerian prince. I was ugly & single, but I just needed the right “mindset” and now I am good to go! Perfect in every way. We all have the ability to change our lives through just THINKING about it. 💪 😜

[@kristyrussell1748]

😂😂😂😂😂

[@SB-my8fi]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@MusicalErika]

What a coincidence!!! I’m a millionaire who can spin straw into gold! All it took was the right “mindset “, “just starting without thinking about it”, and Trying to guess a little man’s name in my pockets of time! AMAZING how this works.

[@lingodelfo5415]

Yesterday I was broke and depressed, but thanks to MINDSET™ I am today rich and hap- Nevermind, the LSD wore off

[@mungbean345]

​@@MusicalErika That sassy fairy-tale related remark made my day. 😄 So glad things worked out with you and good old Stil. 😂

[@TheLollygirl69]

And from someone who had had several miscarriages at the 7 week point roughly, it's sickens me she is using this tragic loss as content for her mlm. So incensitive and heartless. I was an emotional wreck, I can't imagine having my make up perfect, and talking so upbeat. The times I ended up in hospital, there's absolutely no way. But this lady would've probably been excited about that 🤮😢 Good news, we now have 2 healthy happy girls 11 and 6 😊😊❤️❤️

[@kristyrussell1748]

So sorry you dealt with that pain. It's not easy. So happy to hear about your two sweet girls 💖💖

[@pattipeters9861]

So glad you have your girls! God bless.

[@marygray7422]

Yeah. Imagine sitting on the toilet, passing the baby, working your "business". That doesn't sound lucky. That sounds like a nightmare

[@lpronovost84]

So heartless

[@MusicalErika]

I’m with you, Sis. I have 3 lovely kiddos, but miscarried 2 babes among them. I had waaaaaaay too many awful feelings to try and do any sort of “job”. The idea of being tethered to an MLM while going through something so horrible is mind-blowing to me. Feel your grief, girl. No one cares about your crappy shampoo when your baby is falling out of you. Go rest, my dear. Please! Anyway, I feel you, lady. I’m glad you have your own buggies to love❤

[@lanceroman6637]

I feel sad for the first girl's husband and family. Imagine talking about this very private and sensitive event in social media with the intention of selling shampoo? Like, seriously?

[@rach3092]

And with such a valley girl voice it’s quite weird?

[@priscilalondon]

That’s what brainwashing does to a person. She was probably coached to use personal hardships as promotion.

[@swankelly]

When I was in the process of passing my miscarriage, I couldn't talk to anyone but God and couldn't make myself hardly drink or eat anything. Did nothing but lay in bed. I like to give people the benefit of the doubt. Hoping she was distracting herself from the pain, or dissociating.

[@HannahAlonzo]

Thinking of you ❤️

[@AllLifeIsTravesty]

The clip literally only just started and I'm already so stunned I can't speak.

[@awetistic5295]

Wait, did the first woman actually post from the toilet while having a miscarriage, calling it a "wild ride"? I'm speechless. We had a lot of grief with miscarriages in our family, I can't imagine using it as a selling point. It seems like she doesn't even process the trauma, let alone give herself time to feel the pain because she's so hyperfocused on working and staying positive. Also, I know that the medical system in the United States is very different, but here in Germany it's absolutely adviced to go to a doctor when you have a miscarriage to make sure there's no excess tissue in your uterus that might cause infections. If the miscarriage isn't completed naturally and there are remains in the body, medical or even surgical intervention might be necessary.

[@guccideltaco]

Some people do that here in the US as well. I've never had a miscarriage, but I know people who have done it both ways.

[@kayleeleeferink3842]

In the USA you don’t go to the hospital until you’re horribly sick unless you’re rich

[@awetistic5295]

@@kayleeleeferink3842 That is incredibly sad and scary. The risk of sepsis is there and it can absolutely kill you. But I couldn't afford it either if I had to pay for treatment myself.

[@agentko]

I am currently, right now, going through my second miscarriage of this year. There’s so many emotions while you experience this, that you’d have to be so so soooooo brainwashed to be THANKING A PYRAMID SCHEME while experiencing this. Literally repulsive.

[@angelag.3266]

So sorry you are going through that!

[@HannahAlonzo]

Thinking of you ❤️

[@kristyrussell1748]

So sorry to hear that. It's definitely not an easy thing to go through. Sending you good vibes. 💖💖

[@kaylarealtalk_safespace5127]

I'm so sorry you are experiencing this 😔💖

[@LaLa-xf7ku]

I am very sorry. I know these are just words but I am truly sending you a supportive hug. 🤗💜

[@TheGrizzLeah]

The second lady is so wrong for saying that people need to work up the "courage" to spend the money on an MLM. It's not about BEING BRAVE, it's about being manipulated.

[@angelag.3266]

Working while having a miscarriage... how the hell can someone promote this?!?!? I feel like screaming. WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU! She should be SO embarrassed. I bet her husband/boyfriend/partner is! Good grief. "I can work during vacation." "I can work while my pet is having emergency situation at the vet." "I can work during a miscarriage." --- People really.... I mean... words... Wow.

[@HannahAlonzo]

I feel like screaming that too...

[@Pippa87]

Oh god her partner! I never even thought how they might feel. That poor man

[@rach3092]

I almost want to cry…omg that’s horrible.

[@lingodelfo5415]

I reeeeaaaally hope she can deconstruct. Imagine having so much pressure and brainwashing that you feel you need to do that and somehow convinced that it's a good thing? Imagine if she didn't want to do that but her upline forced her? Being threatened and manupulated... I hope she will find therapy

[@destructokat]

I had a part time retail job that made my anxiety get really bad because I couldn't get a break from it. I was one of the first people the job called when they needed a shift replaced. So everyday, I was either asked to come on in my day off, stay later than I was scheduled, etc. Sometimes I would come from my shift and get called asking about another shift. I was genuinely shocked whenever a day passed where I was not called. What should have been a part time job was on my mind almost 24/7 because I was reminded of it whenever they called me. So yeah, I need to have a job where I punch out and hardly anybody talks to me. I might get a message every now and again with my current job but I don't feel like I'm on call every day of my life anymore. My anxiety is much better now that one of the major triggers is gone. I can't understand how MLMs think that everybody should basically be working every second of their life. Some people, like me, can't handle it whatsoever. Clocking out for me is not just something that's nice, it's a necessity for my mental health.

[@HannahAlonzo]

Thank you for bringing up this super important point!!

[@DreamingCatStudio]

Yes, great point. YOU listened to YOU. I’ve been through similar situations. One of the most important and pivotal-dare I say courageous-moments was the day I first said, “No. I can’t do that” to a completely unreasonable request that would have required me to work overtime. I wasn’t fired, and I continued to practice putting boundaries in place. 25 years later I’m virtually free to do what I want.

[@beccawagner1767]

“Can I ask what makes you good?” The fact that a rep actually SAID that got me 💀

[@jnmath1145]

The woman who keeps saying that "The worst thing that could happen is only meeting half of your goal" seems to not understand worst case scenario. The WORST thing is that nobody shows up or nobody buys and you loose a TON of money. I guess she doesn't want to verbalize that or truly believes that it's up to the individual how successful they are.

[@Saezimmerman]

That's kinder than my thought... My thought was, this person has no imagination.

[@Ryanneey]

I literally never have to defend my career, job or place of work to strangers, friends or family. It's so bizarre to lead a life where someone spends this amount of energy doing so.

[@s.hristova7329]

"It's sad I'm having a miscarriage but at least I can work from the bathroom" tell me again why you don't like corporate jobs.. time freedom, was it? Jfc.

[@Bee-ol1xr]

I know I sent you that first story about the miscarriage. This particular hun seems very problematic overall. It's terrifying to think ANYONE would find "the joy" (her words) at this time and find a way to make a miscarriage a pitch to her scam. I never sent her on ounce of hate nor will I ever, I am actually horrified of how deep she's in it. I don't think you can come back from that.

[@HannahAlonzo]

Thank you for sending, it’s a horrifying clip but it also sparks an important conversation ❤️

[@vanessamedina6242]

Argh, every time I watch a video of an MLM hun talking about how they change women's lives I just want to yell at the top of my lungs: YOU JUST SELL SHAMPOO!

[@lingodelfo5415]

Oh no no no, I fully believe they do change lives. Too bad it's for worse.......

[@CatchRainFertility]

Oh I love this 😂

[@LDF1218]

Having to “work” while miscarrying is nothing to brag about. I’m sorry for her loss, though.

[@maddiegreen4660]

Just goes to show that these people will LITERALLY turn every single moment of their lives into a pitch. This is so sad and disgusting…

[@awpanda3459]

You know, when you’re scared, but peaceful? It’s the same as when you’re hot, but also cold. Or when you’re tall, but at the same time short. Makes perfect sense.

[@LaLa-xf7ku]

Oh, I get it now! Like when your hungry but full, driving but walking, or a apple but an orange. Oh sorry got carried away with the deep connection her brain made her tell us! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤯

[@capercaillieskye]

Right?! Like that made no sense, those feelings are totally opposite no? 🤣

[@erinw8787]

That first one was one of the most messed up things I have ever seen ‘I’m SO blessed that I can work my biz whilst on the toilet having a miscarriage , yay!’ What.the.actual.****.

[@briannahatcher9422]

Can we just all agree that we have enough "mindset gurus"... Fully enough. No more. Cup is full. Goodbye Also. My heart goes out to all the ladies that have had a miscarriage. I can't imagine and I'm so sorry. 💜💜💜

[@monikaliane]

Whoa I never had a miscarriage nor a baby but man that’s crossing the line to profit on this.

[@VoidedMirror]

That nurse went from saving lives to destroying lives.

[@lexiright5609]

No fr it's really scary how many nurses fall for MLMs. My mum is a nurse and used to shop fro an Avon hun (she stopped now and it was a long time ago), but there's a nurse at her work that sells essential oils. I've had multiple long talks with my mum explaining why MLMs are and and why she should not purchase anything from this woman.

[@carolinapecaibes1121]

The woman from the long clip... so unaware of the reality of most people. The worst that can happen if a 250k event that i planned dont work is i end up broke and homeless. But i guess this things dont happen to people who God "appreciate".

[@Sarah_b_curiouser]

Yeah I mean she also said she was an ICU nurse that was only making $30k a year. Unless she was -very- part time, like 20hrs a week, or actually just a CNA she was extremely underpaid

[@anij80]

One thing about mlm is this talk about courage and pity stories, the hell!!! My sister works in a normal 8 to 5 and you don't see her logging in fb and blabbing away about the courage it took her to work or anything like that. She clocks in, clocks out go home and enjoy her time with the hubby and daughter. She is very happy with her job. ☺

[@kristyrussell1748]

Just so everyone is aware, a miscarriage isn't a one day thing. It can last for weeks. That being said, that story just really freaking disgusts me. I'm all for people sharing their stories to get rid of the stigma, but this just makes me flipping disgusted. When I went through mine, I was busy crying, panicking and calling my doctor. Literally not worried about anything else other than my baby. I've not had the best luck with pregnancies, so I take this extremely personal. She can piss off

[@HannahAlonzo]

So sorry that’s something you have had to experience ❤️ and such a good point that this is something that is drawn out and extremely traumatic and the way she’s talking about it is very insensitive.

[@kristyrussell1748]

@@HannahAlonzo Sorry I sounded so cranky lol .. I don't like to be like that. Thank you for sharing though, people need to see it. I appreciate how you speak on topics as sensitive as this.

[@HannahAlonzo]

You have EVERY RIGHT to sound like that!

[@joyfuljaj]

@@kristyrussell1748 you did not sound cranky at all, just honest. I am so sorry you have had to experience such heartbreak. I cannot fathom. I also agree that sharing online to publicize the stigma could be done properly. What this lady did was not it.

[@kristyrussell1748]

@@HannahAlonzo thank you! I appreciate that! 💖

[@ridiculousspider]

I am scared of prison. That doesn't mean I am called to it. 🥴

[@midwifeohyeah22]

Thw first one...I feel like she thought sharing like this would help her heal. It's just heartbreaking. She will regret this. My heart just hurts for anyone watching .. this was HIGHLY insensitive to even her own grief! I feel like her own sorrow was just squelched. She doesn't even let herself experience all of the emotions.

[@quotidian5077]

My mother miscarried in a very public place when we were quite young. My mother was so traumatized by it that she never went back to that place. She rarely talked about it and wouldn't think to share that experience in such a graphic way.

[@bethradish]

Thank you for describing what happens in the tiktok videos with no vox. I suffer from fibromyalgia and migraines and enjoy listening to content that I dont *have* to watch. Your content seems very aware of the variety of ways people consume your material and it speaks volumes to your wonderful character x

[@MindiB]

“Money isn’t even something I think about anymore.” Does this woman understand the insane amount of privilege she possesses to be able to make such a claim? (Hint: No. No, she does not.). And to have the further audacity to equate her extreme good fortune not to be concerned with cost with COURAGE that others should admire?! I just can’t. ETA: She is preaching “prosperity gospel,” a well-known approach to religious grifting. Predation writ large.

[@BlaireShastay]

No words. Literally no words.

[@theproteagirl5438]

Seriously if she said “what do you have to lose” one more time I would have lost my patience. The brainwashing is mind blowing 🤦‍♀️. And the first lady, I can’t, seriously was she for real😭😭. I truly hope your content reach more people to help educate them on these awful scams.

[@maryt2786]

Omg I know, I got sick of hearing her say “what do I have to lose and what’s the worst thing that could happen”. Especially when it is followed by an average case scenario and nowhere near close the worst case scenario.

[@erinlovescoffee]

I just went through a recent miscarriage and I can’t even imagine working while you’re going through something horrible…that girl needs some serious help. They mock the 9-5, but my supervisors wanted me to take time off to take care of myself. Also, no lie, I sat on my couch in my comfy clothes and blanket and binge watched your videos during my time off, because I had just discovered you, and always loved antimlm content. Your cats and content helped entertain me through a really tough time. ❤️ keep up the great work!

[@HannahAlonzo]

Oh Erin, my heart breaks that you had to go through that. I’m thinking of you! ❤️❤️

[@AugustMooon]

never apologize for your sassiness, I love it!

[@CanisLupus1987]

If you're miscarrying a baby go to a freaking hospital. Don't go on social media sell MLM Products. If you really cared about your child, you'd go to the doctor. Not to mention her health is in danger. Women who miscarry need to get themselves to make sure nothing is left rotting and infecting her , risking sepsis and other dangerous problems

[@squidknee.]

youre only advised to go to the hospital if you’re bleeding through like 3 pads an hour for 2 or more hours(or something like that i cant remember) then you get a follow up or sometimes no follow up if you get a negative test 4-6 weeks. I went to the hospital for a threatened miscarriage and they werent able to confirm there so they sent me home where i immediately passed baby and called back, they told me to stay home. so she’s okay at home but still, thats seriously the saddest mlm clip i’ve ever seen and so awful she’s using the experience in attempt to sell the “opportunity” :/

[@kristyrussell1748]

@@squidknee. yes agreed. They told me to go home too. I just had to deal with the pain and a heating pad. It was one of the worst experiences of my life.

[@pamelalansbury94]

I’ve had two miscarriages and both times they told me to stay home, take it easy and make an appointment for the dr after it’s done. I don’t know how she’s sitting there talking about it as it’s happening. Both times I was in the shower sobbing as I bled.

[@SB-my8fi]

It depends on whether you have an incomplete vs complete vs inevitable spontaneous miscarriage (medically we describe miscarriage as a spontaneous abortion). You are referring to is a situation of an incomplete spontaneous abortion where retained tissue can cause infection/sepsis (life-threatening complication) which requires a D&C. When you present with signs a possible spontaneous abortion, your health care provider will do a pelvic exam to evaluate your cervix to come up with a management plan based on the exam, clinical info, and trimester. In other words, not all spontaneous abortions are treated the same way. Sometimes people can manage it safely at home and sometimes not. Either way, it is a very traumatizing experience. I don't know if maybe the hun was using the mlm as a part of her coping strategy but still very concerning that she leverages that as a recruiting pitch.

[@klynne8410]

The women who literally thinks that she needs to keep working through miscarriage while on the toilet losing her baby just shows how absolutely toxic gross and disgusting these mlm businesses are it's absolutely awful!!! Her doing this is absolutely NOT ok at all!!!

[@klairedevos6484]

I’m a teacher. Teaching is something I’m called to do and sometimes that is so scary to me! But even though it’s something I’m passionate about and love doing, I still make decisions based on money! Not because I’m afraid or worried about money but because I know that money doesn’t just appear out of nowhere 😂

[@TedsHoldOver]

17:51 #7 Your husband runs out of patience after 6 years and divorces you because you no longer resemble the woman he married.

[@maria.x]

My 9 to 5 paid for my time off when I got Covid. I didn’t need to worry I wouldn’t be making money or be penalized for prioritizing my health. My 9 to 5 covers my therapy sessions. I don’t have to do extra work to pay for it. My 9 to 5 doesn’t expect me to be available when I’m on vacation. Nor does it expect me to defend my job to anyone, create and publicize free marketing content, recruit additional people to guarantee my income, etc. I have so many more of these, but I’ll just stop at this. This is what my 9 to 5 does for me.

[@breannab3610]

This.

[@Gxbrxela]

i've misscarried twice. this is so appalling for her to use this trauma as a plug to work for an MLM. these huns have truly lost the plot.

[@d1r2l]

lmao there's so much to say about all these clips, and I'm sure everyone has already pointed them out, but I LOL'd when you mouthed "entrepreneur" in clip 5.

[@HannahAlonzo]

I CANNOT handle it when they call themselves an entrepreneur with a straight face

[@ladidaohoh3168]

Running a your own scam retreat inside your pyramid scam… excellent!!!

[@babyturkey8342]

Talking about working on the toilet while "letting go" of a fetus. This is horrifying 😭😭💔

[@lizziec4408]

Girl, I'm living for that shirt (dress?) 😍😍

[@HannahAlonzo]

Thank you! It’s actually a romper!

[@lingodelfo5415]

I love that she has multiple videos in it! I get such summer vibes, it warms me up while it's super cold outside. And I think, as a sidenote, it spreads the norm of a public person using the same clothes more than once year after year

[@DazeInn]

“I didn’t want to limit it to just my team. I wanted to help other women” what she’s really saying is she wanted other women to help her get rich

[@ChristoherWGray]

Yes The next logical step is to become a "so called life coach"

[@SketchyCharactersAndCrime]

It sounds like she’s starting an MLM within her MLM

[@justsayin1991]

The miscarriage clip was so much worse than I thought it was going to be. I should have listened when the trigger warning was given . . . But I'm usually ok with it. But hearing her talking about actively having a miscarriage just put me right back in the moment of when I had mine. I had to immediately fast forward because the tears were already starting to fall. We all deal with it differently. But I don't understand how someone can take something so traumatic and private and number one, share it with the entire internet while it's actually happening. And then also use it to try and recruit for a MLM. I'm beyond disgusted.

[@HannahAlonzo]

I am so sorry that you had to experience that Jordan. And I agree it’s absolutely disgusting to use it as an MLM pitch. I’m thinking of you!

[@kaylarealtalk_safespace5127]

When I tell you that first clip broke my heart. I'm very blessed to have a healthy toddler, but even if I were not already a mother, I could NEVER. There is no reason this girl should have been all dressed up in her Monat gear doing a Live on social media. Everyone deserves space and boundaries. It's completely despicable that when you're in an MLM you're almost expected to blast your traumas! Completely sick and wrong. When you're going through something like this, you deserve time to process your emotions and to heal. That video of hers was so unnecessary. I hope she is doing well now, and I hope one day she is able to get out of her MLM and deal with what has happened to her. Anyone experiencing a loss deserves time away from work to heal.

[@annea.4173]

Clip 5 was starting to put me to sleep. She sounds like she's reading a bedtime story to toddlers, not hyping up her "business." And then to say her first thought isn't about money/cost? What a freaking privileged thing to say!

[@emilysolimando4054]

She just lost a whole life and acts like she lost her left shoe. I am at a loss.

[@purranoid]

I am horrified by the Monat rep saying she can work her business even while miscarrying.

[@justpeachy4393]

'No ExCuSeS' 🥴

[@irisx1602]

I always think my roommate is the most delusional person in the world, but then you post and I’m like. No it CAN be worse.

[@whitneyr.846]

Can we please discuss that your salary is not your total compensation from your job? 401k contributions, health insurance, education assistance/reimbursement, continuing education.. these are a majority of someone's compensation package. I was working with a manager wondering if we should find a replacement for someone that had left the company. I knew his salary was 62k a year (which sounds like a lot, but in the Seattle area, where the cost of living is so high) but when asking the total compensation package of this person's position, I was informed that it cost the company 160k a year total, after all the benefits that are included. My job pays $987 dollars a month toward my health insurance premiums alone.

[@KatieColekatielovesbaseball]

The Plexus lady was very interesting! Always scares me when I hear them put so much “faith talk” into it…as a Christian I consider that crossing a big line!! Looking forward to the Plexus deep dive!

[@meghanpeters5054]

The approach of the woman in the last clip also strikes me as more dangerous or potentially more insidious as well. Watching clips where the distributor takes that more positive, calm approach always leave me feeling more uneasy because it is difficult to tell the level of awareness that person has for why they're using that approach. Thank you for the shout out, I truly enjoy your content!

[@Rachopin77]

I'm scared of falling off a cliff, but that doesn't mean I'm being called to jump off. The "if you're scared of something, you're probably being called to do it" thing is so weird to me.

[@RisaBorahae613]

I hate how they use manifestation in their pitches. That's not how it works at all and I'm new-ish to it. Also scamming people comes back on you as bad karma. The fact that they're co-opting this and twisting it is so wrong.

[@janafisher7701]

I myself haven’t personally experienced miscarriage, but my oldest daughter had one with her first pregnancy. I get that people experience grief differently but the lady in the first clip literally made me sick to my stomach! The fact that she said she can work her business while sitting on toilet miscarrying is beyond disturbing!!!!

[@sammkidd17]

I applaud the way you approached that first video. I like how you specifically added that yes, miscarriages should be openly discussed, but this particular video is going too far. She is sensationalizing her trauma, and nobody wants to see that! And in turn, she’s trivializing other people’s miscarriages. I’m so disgusted.

[@luvzdogz]

And it's OK to keep some things private. I don't know why people think they like HAVE to over share every private detail of their life.

[@missqiqilamour]

I've lost 2 babies in the past 2 years,within 6 months of each other, yes I feel sorry for her but at the same time I'm disgusted. She is making a mockery of the real pain and grief we go through losing our babies

[@HannahAlonzo]

I am so sorry for your losses. Thinking of you ❤️❤️

[@missqiqilamour]

@@HannahAlonzo thankyou. And thankyou for all the amazing work you do ❤❤❤

[@kristyrussell1748]

Yes!!! So well said!! And I'm so sorry.

[@davekaio5934]

What the actual... I just can't.. Ok I mostly laugh at these MLMers. But this girl? My heart is genuinely breaking for her

[@capercaillieskye]

The lady in clip 5 is missing a question. It is actually a good idea to ask yourself what the worst is that could happen and what the best is that could happen...but you also need to ask yourself *what is the probability of each outcome.* If the best is you could make millions and the worst is you could lose literally everything, and the likelihood of you losing everything faaaaar outweighs the probability of making it big, it's probably not worth the risk :P Then if that's the case, you should ask yourself if there are any alternative routes to the best that have better odds, and if so, do those instead. In the case of MLMs, the best possible outcome is in fact making it big, but you're approximately 99% more likely to lose your initial investment, if not much more. But, luckily enough, there are alternative routes! You could get a normal job and save your money, go to college to get a good career, start your own real (a.k.a. non-MLM) small business, take a class on finances, learn how to invest wisely and safely, etc. And all of these options have much much much higher probability of success than an MLM ever could ;P

[@HannahAlonzo]

Yes yes yes!!!

[@nickyappleby1060]

OMG what an awful way to promote your business. I lost my first baby in 1990, back then there was no real help in the early stages it was like just move on you will be fine but I have never forgotten and never will. I have 3 children not 2 and always will. Hannah you looked so distressed during this clip, I pray this has never happened to you. Please keep up the great work and show up these people for how inappropriate they really are prepared to go

[@yesiamsharon]

First MLM'er was intolerable in the lengths she was willing to go. I don't know if shame is something that person can ever be in touch with. "Nurse MLM": I feel peaceful about doing it. Sure my power is getting cut off tomorrow but I feel peaceful about it. Also, something is sus here. I can't put my finger on it but something is off. Lastly, I truly enjoy my "corporate" job. It's fulfilling. Enough with the pretending like a job with standard hours is somehow "less than". It's just not and the deception is nauseating.

[@luvzdogz]

Former nurse hun is trying to be the next Rachel Hollis!

[@jaymel4691]

The reason I'm "afraid" of joining an MLM instead of my full time job is because I'm afraid of being broke and having to live in my car because I can no longer pay any of my bills or rent! Seems like a rational fear to me!

[@MusicalErika]

I know! Heaven forbid you spend the same money on earring a certification in something or learning a new marketable craft. Nope, jut try and recruit and sell to everyone you know. Blech

[@calloganvoyaterre]

That first clip sickens me. I might not want children, and I might not have ever had the chance even if I DID want children, but the thought that she would use such a thing to pump herself and others up about her 'business' is sickening. That was a potential human life that was essentially boiled down to a talking point as if that was all it could be worth. What the hell.

[@ashleymcgee3536]

I sat on the toilet and waited for my miscarriage to resolve itself (after a DandC) and the last thing I was thinking about was whatever work was waiting for me. I am beyond mournful for anyone who has been so manipulated by these companies to believe it’s normal to pitch your MLM business while you’re miscarrying. My heart breaks for this woman.

[@helenlarson2973]

i've been watching your mlm top fails playlist going backwards in time and i just wanted to say that i appreciate how you do content/trigger warnings by specifying what it is and giving people a place to fast forward to. miscarriage isn't something i find triggering, but it's really nice to see the care you put into that

[@godsendgoldenboy]

english is not my first language and even tho I'm somewhat good at it I still sometimes get confused about some words so thank you so much for breaking the phrases down for us Hanna!!

[@HannahAlonzo]

Of course! Happy to help!

[@heatherc.9012]

I’m a therapist, and the one lady for 16mins was not cool. This type of thinking is a tool for cognitive challenging that some therapists may use. But instead of actually validating what could happen and warning of bad options/choices….she is minimizing them. That is toxic, especially to those who are more susceptible to manipulation and impulsive. 🙁

[@marinaramalho]

So awful that she couldn't even grieve her miscarriage without feeling she had to somehow use it to shill her MLM. I too experienced a miscarriage and I am so glad that my "awful" 9-5 asked no questions when I asked for time off to deal with it.

[@mandylee3862]

I drink a lotttt of coffee, and the absolute most I might spend is $100/month. More realistically, it's about $60-$70. Maybe that's just me, but I dont see many people spending $200 per month on coffee! And also, coffee is not bad for your health if you're drinking it without a bunch of added sugar!

[@lisalothian6412]

Thank you for teaching us about undue influence. I’ve never heard that before! And as a ex hun, undue influence happens every.single.day!

[@chaseohara4781]

When that woman said "help them have breakthroughs" my eyes almost popped out of my head

[@arianaquinonez7106]

Yes the gaslighting in MLMs is UNREAL!!! It’s such an endless mind game! And yes the higher ups all give that arrogant response and it really is heartbreaking 💔 and disgusting. Thank you Hannah for shining light on this! Also the miscarriage video, just no words. Didn’t want to think women would go to this length for money, its weird.

[@the22ndday]

I know I’m late for this party but just had to add my 2 cents… I am 67. Worked my years at a job that gave me vacation days off, paid medical insurance for myself and my family and now I’m at an age that I receive a monthly retirement check for the rest of my life. No MLM can come close to that. Edited to add words

[@arianaventi487]

Yeah I just had a miscarriage but it’s just so great I can work on my phone while having a miscarriage like what 😂😂😂 I gasped for air

[@HannahAlonzo]

My jaw hit the floor the first time I watched it

[@Samisnotavailable]

I literally gasped when she started talking about "working" after being so vulnerable and probably helping a lot of people feeling less alone. Devastating.

[@teslag23]

Imagine if these women actually sat down and logged their working hours, and then compared that to how much money they were bringing in weekly/monthly. They would be so shocked to see that they are making nothing

[@missiec6899]

I know someone who did this exact thing. She would even show herself in the hospital & thank itworks for letting her work while she was there. She used her miscarriage for her "business" & it was one of the most disgusting things that I've ever seen.

[@katephilbrook3959]

“How dare she” is absolutely the response. I miscarried nearly a year ago. Her use of the miscarriage for the MLM is disgusting, let alone the details she shares without a trigger warning.

[@wurdnurd1]

"I don't know what to say" [Ad break] Ad for a funeral home. WOW KZbin, WHAT THE HUH?!?

[@HannahAlonzo]

NO WAY. Oh god that’s awful…

[@joanalorenzo6949]

I saw this video before and all I have to say is that this woman is sick as fuck. I had two miscarriages and it nearly destroyed me emotionally. How can she behave this way in regards to that, in such a nonchalant way? I managed to have a son and I deveolped endometriosis a couple of years after. Basically I'm not going to have any more kids. That woman made my blood boil.

[@HannahAlonzo]

It’s such a sensitive and deeply emotional topic and I agree that she went about it the completely wrong way. Thinking of you ❤️

[@levemalo]

the fourth clip makes my head spin with the odd logic. putting some of the weird nosy things beside, the implication that essential oils/young living is healthcare? between mlm essential oils and coffee, i'd pick coffee everytime.

[@DragonfliesonBreak]

The last women was EXHAUSTING to listen to. The way she kept throwing the price of things around was beyond irritating, obviously saying "look at me, I have MONEY because of my MLM". Even if she does have that much money, it's totally classless.