EVERY Smash Veteran's Best Change In Ultimate (Post-DLC)

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MockRockTalk

MockRockTalk

2 жыл бұрын

Everyone is here! But...not quite how they used to be. Super Smash Bros. Ultimate brought back every character in Smash history, from Smash 64 to Melee to Brawl to Smash 4, which meant decades of designs that all needed to be adapted for the new game engine. I originally looked at the best change for each character over on MockRock when the game was brand new, and now that the balance patches are all done, it's time to take a retrospective look back at how those changes panned out.
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@MockRockTalk
@MockRockTalk 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching everyone! This was a fun format that I'll probably do at least a couple more times at some point, let me know what you thought of it as well as what your list looks like! Correction: Ryu's change to special cancelling only applies to aerials, which actually does make his projectile buffs his most significant change. -Main channel: kzbin.info -Twitter: twitter.com/MrMockRock -Twitch: www.twitch.tv/mockrocktwitch -Patreon: www.patreon.com/mockrock -Teespring: teespring.com/stores/mockrock -TimeBolt affiliate link (excellent software I use to speed up editing on my videos, use code "MOCKROCK" for a discount): mockrock--timebolt.thrivecart.com/order-page/
@lemonlime8949
@lemonlime8949 2 жыл бұрын
Man I was watching your old videos and recent AMA and was thinking “I wonder what he will do next” and then I got this video woo
@parzival-bo
@parzival-bo 2 жыл бұрын
I'm just gonna go ahead and assume the Biggest Nerf counterpart to this video is in the pipeline.
@andremorrison7626
@andremorrison7626 2 жыл бұрын
Why do people undersell Megaman Bair?
@devinwilliams4527
@devinwilliams4527 2 жыл бұрын
Hey MockRock, when are you gonna do the jack of all trades archetype video?
@hambughrr8186
@hambughrr8186 2 жыл бұрын
IMO, Pokémon Trainer's biggest change isn't JUST faster swapping. It's actually a 2-way-tie between faster switching and Pokémon no longer getting tired from prolonged usage.
@ReitheOffbeatOtaku
@ReitheOffbeatOtaku 2 жыл бұрын
Commenting just to say that I still like the phrase "KIRBY, METEOR OF DEATH" a few years later.
@drewboden6981
@drewboden6981 2 жыл бұрын
It pops into my head every few months, so this was a nice revisit
@firstwaddledee9182
@firstwaddledee9182 2 жыл бұрын
That line is amazing
@jitsekuilman2492
@jitsekuilman2492 2 жыл бұрын
*KORBY
@sylvicx3437
@sylvicx3437 2 жыл бұрын
I scream that as a Kirby main when i get a kill with Dash Attack lmao
@pieceofbread5311
@pieceofbread5311 2 жыл бұрын
@@sylvicx3437 I main Kirby so I can do this
@aidenzorn8322
@aidenzorn8322 2 жыл бұрын
“If you look back at your past self and cringe, it only means you’ve improved” -Alpharad
@fr0stdr4ke95
@fr0stdr4ke95 2 жыл бұрын
@@WhiteKnuckleRide512 Why?
@fr0stdr4ke95
@fr0stdr4ke95 2 жыл бұрын
@@WhiteKnuckleRide512 I legitimately think the opposite on what made him interesting. I love that he is branching out his content if he is tired of constantly making Smash videos. Plus I never thought he was cringe.
@Benjawin6671
@Benjawin6671 2 жыл бұрын
I kind of miss the old mockrock. This new one is just bland and monotone
@fr0stdr4ke95
@fr0stdr4ke95 2 жыл бұрын
@@Benjawin6671 I think he has more chilled out rather than being more bland and monotone.
@Benjawin6671
@Benjawin6671 2 жыл бұрын
@@fr0stdr4ke95 Nah I think "depressed" is the better word
@TheAntiburglar
@TheAntiburglar 2 жыл бұрын
I quite like this format. It's a nice nostalgia trip and provides more insight into the minutiae of the game that I still don't really understand lol
@ashton5061
@ashton5061 2 жыл бұрын
I actually thought the "meteor of death" was kinda funny, I think stuff like that is fine to have every once in a while just don't do it all the time, then it will get cringe
@gilolaes4725
@gilolaes4725 2 жыл бұрын
Your old delivery sounds like you're a morning dj doing ad reads and the sponsor asked you to "punch up your energy" between every take. Needless to say, the progress you've made since then in terms of sounding natural is inspiring.
@superfrubblez6123
@superfrubblez6123 2 жыл бұрын
10:18 I think you just described everyone’s quarantine experience in 5 seconds
@youseftheh4869
@youseftheh4869 2 жыл бұрын
for real it feels like its been 1 year since covid started
@kaleidoslug7777
@kaleidoslug7777 2 жыл бұрын
If this is less work than a normal revamped video, which seems like the case, I'd love to see more
@MockRockTalk
@MockRockTalk 2 жыл бұрын
It's so much less work, you have no idea lol
@WarrenValion
@WarrenValion 2 жыл бұрын
Definitely think that Pit Down B deserves a mention. Being + on that move breaking is insane.
@eyyy2271
@eyyy2271 2 жыл бұрын
Plus, his new rapid jab is one of his best changes in the transition, good lord
@RadiantBlaze
@RadiantBlaze 2 жыл бұрын
Just in general i think pit is the most improved in ssbu, he and dark pit went from a super generic character to a character with a pretty amazing advantage state, orbitars is probably *the* best reflector move in the game thanks to it functioning similar to a shield, uppercut/electroshock are great kill moves and yeah they're still shite but pit's airells got so much better, i mean sour dair combos arenuts
@honathan2135
@honathan2135 2 жыл бұрын
How + is he?
@MakoShiruba
@MakoShiruba 2 жыл бұрын
@@honathan2135 They are stuck in shieldstun of the attack that lands and Pit is +4 at worst from the move, which gives enough time to buffer DSmash. I have buffered Electrpshock out of a Smash Attack breaking my shield so you can be like +22, it's really insane.
@honathan2135
@honathan2135 2 жыл бұрын
@@MakoShiruba bruh
@NCozy
@NCozy 2 жыл бұрын
I think Mario's actual best change is fludd being stronger tbh. It's actually useful outside of just gimping people
@battle188883
@battle188883 2 жыл бұрын
Though to be fair it was already used to disturb movement in smash 4.
@DragonMaster1818
@DragonMaster1818 11 күн бұрын
It’s still not as strong as squirtle water gun and has a longer charge time which just makes me confused.
@bokobo6295
@bokobo6295 2 жыл бұрын
The whole “oh good I didn’t choose it :) …wait I DID choose it!” part about PK Freeze is very funny to me
@MrFancyDragon
@MrFancyDragon 2 жыл бұрын
It’s kind of weird how a few years ago your voice was more upbeat and yes, cringy, but more recently you’ve taken a more calm approach. It really does coincide with how analytical and in depth your videos have become Edit: I still smile at the “Kirby the Pink Beyblade or KIRBY, METEOR OF DEATH!!!” It’s funny what can I say?
@guythatdosethingssometimes2651
@guythatdosethingssometimes2651 2 жыл бұрын
Really? I agree that it's higher energy but I don't think it's to the point of being obnoxious. For the tone he was going for at the time I think the delivery was perfectly fine.
@Jackaljkljkl
@Jackaljkljkl 2 жыл бұрын
I agree. I discovered this channel recently and like it, but can't listen to some of the older videos. This guy definitely is best suited to interesting, mature and informative content, rather than wacky and over-the-top. Not everyone needs to be Little Z, Coney or Alpharad.
@MrFancyDragon
@MrFancyDragon 2 жыл бұрын
@@guythatdosethingssometimes2651 Well cringy isn’t necessarily bad tbh. It’s just a weird phase that’s entertaining to go through but does leave some embarrassment or second hand embarrassment if you’re not the one doing the cringe. I will say tho, even in his early videos MockRock made them high quality and they still stand today.
@MrFancyDragon
@MrFancyDragon 2 жыл бұрын
@@Jackaljkljkl I feel like everyone goes through a certain “phase” where like their content feels too sophisticated or like saturated with the same stuff. It’s hard to see it when it’s happening right now, but when you look back you can tell when something definitely happened. Like Cringe Phase and then Boom I’m a professional
@Chris-sk6px
@Chris-sk6px 2 жыл бұрын
The sheer commitment put into *"KIRBY, METEOR OF DEATH"* was absolutely hilarious, the style sure changed overtime.
@hiei7682
@hiei7682 2 жыл бұрын
It really is insane just how much time passed since ultimate came out, it still feels like it came out yesterday.
@Icemario87
@Icemario87 Жыл бұрын
It did come out yesterday, what do you mean? Life is good here in December 2019. It does kind of feel like time has stopped, though...
@pavlox8099
@pavlox8099 9 ай бұрын
@@Icemario87ultimate came out in December 2018… Are you okay?
@Icemario87
@Icemario87 9 ай бұрын
@@pavlox8099 No, you're right. It came out a year ago...
@dakdastardly7692
@dakdastardly7692 2 жыл бұрын
Corrin is interesting because they definitely were a straight up nerfed version of their Smash 4 incarnation at first, but then their uair and bair got ridiculous knockback buffs and both kill absurdly early. Being able to cancel pin adds more variance still, while uair and bair already killed reasonably early because of where you tend to go for them, so it's hard to say which is more impactful for me.
@hispookyburrito
@hispookyburrito 2 жыл бұрын
INSTAPIN INSTAWIN
@Jackaljkljkl
@Jackaljkljkl 2 жыл бұрын
Cancelling pin is for betas. Real men pin-kick onto a shield from miles away, and get UpSmashed.
@shanerpressley
@shanerpressley 2 жыл бұрын
33:35 Ryu gained the ability to cancel his AERIALS into specials in this game, he has always been able to cancel most normals into specials. Nothing about this has changed through patches. This ultimately did not change much for Ryu or Ken, kinda just allows them to kill with up air into Shoryuken. Ryu's Fireballs have been insanely buffed from Smash 4 > Ultimate and is no doubt the winner. His entire playstyle now revolves around his projectile play especially thanks to the last Ultimate patch where they increased the damage of both fireballs.
@MockRockTalk
@MockRockTalk 2 жыл бұрын
This is a good catch, I've issued a correction in the pinned comment, thank you!
@Schrodingers_douchebag
@Schrodingers_douchebag Жыл бұрын
Actually he did get a buff to those cancels, he has the ability to cancel down smash of all things into specials
@shanerpressley
@shanerpressley Жыл бұрын
@@Schrodingers_douchebag I think the point of the changes was what is different from Smash 4 to base Ultimate, but I could be wrong. Also down smash cancelling did not change very much for Ryu and it minorly buffed Ken's combo damage and shield pressure.
@Schrodingers_douchebag
@Schrodingers_douchebag Жыл бұрын
@@shanerpressley Yknow what? I actually dunno if your right. I don’t fuckin play those two often.
@Eltrotraw
@Eltrotraw 2 жыл бұрын
4:10 Going to say - while ftilt turning into a combo tool for Yoshi is a big change, I'd actually argue bair being a combo starter (into ftilt or bair), kill confirm (fsmash, usmash, uair), or a kill move itself is actually one of his best changes, moreso than ftilt. This is also noting that the hitbox is actually pretty disjointed for what it is, notably the last hit, the one that turns it into a legitimate kill move.
@MockRockTalk
@MockRockTalk 2 жыл бұрын
I did think about back air, but the thing is, the drag down stuff is a universal change (it's enabled by reduced landing lag), so those aspects of it aren't eligible for the list.
@Eltrotraw
@Eltrotraw 2 жыл бұрын
@@MockRockTalk Ah, right, I forgot about your criteria - though I'd still elect bair simply because it's now an aerial disjointed kill move, something that he only had with uair previously.
@DragonMaster1818
@DragonMaster1818 11 күн бұрын
Bair is a great neutral tool too because of that last part. It really helps yoshi get a bit of range because the only other range he has is egg throw, none of his melee attacks are very disjointed.
@DragonMaster1818
@DragonMaster1818 11 күн бұрын
@@MockRockTalkThat’s true, if you filtered it with the criteria. It would be a run of the mill disjoined kill move, which is good, but not as good as f tilt.
@eret3
@eret3 2 жыл бұрын
honestly, even though i prefer new mockrock, i do miss the loud mockrock lol.
@andrewbegay1261
@andrewbegay1261 2 жыл бұрын
I only really got into smash last year and I’m getting….decent. But the knowledge and effort of good players is so intense. An analysis like this is so beyond me.
@SSM24_
@SSM24_ 2 жыл бұрын
You don't really need to worry too much about stuff like tier lists and discussions about competitive viability unless you're actually looking to compete at a high level. There's a reason Ganondorf is the most common character to reach Elite Smash despite being widely considered one of the worst characters in the game :p
@FedoraKirb
@FedoraKirb 2 жыл бұрын
The best way to get better at understanding this stuff is to simply expose yourself to more of it. I also recommend IzawSmash’s “Art of Smash Ultimate” series.
@Rhy2412TitanGamer
@Rhy2412TitanGamer 2 жыл бұрын
Lucas has a number of changes that I could list as important. Dtilt having much better launch angles & better combo ability. Pk thunder getting its endlag of 70 reduced down to 44, making it one of the best offstage pressure tools in the game & a annoying tool to ensnare landings with. Ftilt getting a hitbox increase. Increased knockback on it with the angled version receiving equal knockback to the non-angled version. Uair having much less endlag, making it a combo juggle tool and kill confirms with uair > bair/dair Nair's hits 1-3 being combo starters from a fastfall from a shorthop ( which I believed they weren't in s4). & The whole move getting less hitstun, which makes reacting to sdi a frame 7 move harder. Pk freeze not being completely pointless, lingering for 1 frame (it's 4 now), & being one of the safest projectiles on a shield. With the uncharged version being -15 & freeze having 23 frames of endlag. Freeze actually has utility as a landing punish, a tool to use during ledgetrapping, or as a tool to force people to stall or telegraph recovery/ledge options Zair being able to be double jump cancelled, giving him one of the best disjoints because it clanks 17.3% worth of projectile damage & leads into fair, his buffed dash attack, dair, irar bair, dash grab, or fsmash with a micro-dash. & The move is -5 on shield with a faf of 21 if executed perfectly and around 25-30 with some delay. I'll take grab followups being removed if Lucas became a character with a functional moveset, which he did.
@CookieGal-
@CookieGal- 2 жыл бұрын
While I 100% agree that getting a functional grab is Pac-Man's best change, I think the fact that they *halved* bonus fruit's charge time is also very important and could've got a special mention
@captainmega6310
@captainmega6310 Жыл бұрын
Eh. They were still good in smash 4 vs grab which never gets used
@BugBoss1205
@BugBoss1205 2 жыл бұрын
While you have improved a considerable amount in terms of writing and whatnot, I actually kind of liked the old delivery. It’s bouncy and energetic, like Smash itself.
@Jackaljkljkl
@Jackaljkljkl 2 жыл бұрын
Hard disagree. He has grown into himself as an interesting analytical creator, rather than a wacky Alpharad knockoff.
@kwisowofer9872
@kwisowofer9872 2 жыл бұрын
When Alpharad made smash videos 😔 (Yes I know he made a smash video pretty recently but I doubt he’ll frequently make them)
@iantaakalla8180
@iantaakalla8180 2 жыл бұрын
Also, Alpharad has a specific sort of humor that is irreplicable. Basically, he always comes off as if his life is shitposting. No one can just do that even as a persona.
@captainmega6310
@captainmega6310 Жыл бұрын
​@Jackaljkljkl he wasn't a knockoff and he still made analytical very well. Now he's just any other boring analysis channel
@ayrtonpavot3096
@ayrtonpavot3096 2 жыл бұрын
12:23 Pichu's ultimate compared to his melee's fair has gone from litteraly hurting him more then anything to actually being an, if not great, usable move . Where as bair wasn't really that useful in melee (you could basically just use nair instead), and even if it got pretty buffed I think what move to pick for the video is still debatable .
@FlameUser64
@FlameUser64 2 жыл бұрын
also Pichu's melee _grab_ (especially dash grab) was awful and now he has a really fast grab with decent range?
@camusreviews6877
@camusreviews6877 2 жыл бұрын
I would argue that Nikita being the best change is a result of Ultimate’s universal mechanics. Yes the buffs on it were crazy and it is still debatably the best change but the lack of infinite airdodges is what really makes Nikita one of the best edgeguarding tools in the game.
@jmurray1110
@jmurray1110 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah it’s part of it (sane with his good air fishing was in brawl) but at the same times it’s still insane so it’s a bit of column A bit of column B
@MaxWelton
@MaxWelton 2 жыл бұрын
4:51 what are you talking about? KIRBY METEOR OF DEATH was charming and funny!
@anacobra558
@anacobra558 2 жыл бұрын
I really like the older vids liked them when they came out still like them today bit I can't deny how much you've improved
@IntenseSad
@IntenseSad 2 жыл бұрын
For Robin I'd actually give it to the addition of Levin Nair. Taking a alright move in Bronze Nair in 4 and making it debatably the characters best move while keeping everything it did before at the only real cost of not being able to switch to Bronze Sword without landing is way more important than making a niche move better but still niche.
@gustavoaravenacid3066
@gustavoaravenacid3066 2 жыл бұрын
It's strange that considering your statement in 0:40 you still use ESAM as a reference in the "best of" vídeo. Anyways, i love your content! Keep the hard work
@EarthBound_Fan
@EarthBound_Fan 2 жыл бұрын
I can't wait to see every character's best move post DLC! Will back specials and diagonal tilts be included or will those be attached to character specific gimmicks?
@Wesley-76
@Wesley-76 2 жыл бұрын
Been looking forward to this since I watched the original! Also looking forward to the "best of" moves as well. Keep up the good content!
@TalesOfRandolph
@TalesOfRandolph 2 жыл бұрын
i love this content, he never acts as though hes the be all and end all but also brings enough info and facts to the table to make you think twice about even the things you thought were set in stone
@hazemabdalla4020
@hazemabdalla4020 2 жыл бұрын
The change in audio quality is fantastic and really shows your growth over the years :)
@pika4668
@pika4668 2 жыл бұрын
fun video! I like the format and your comments are insightful as always.
@karstoncole8783
@karstoncole8783 2 жыл бұрын
This was a good format. It was interesting to look back at how much some characters have changed.
@Dribin
@Dribin 2 жыл бұрын
Always look forward to a new mock rock video :)
@wishmaker7863
@wishmaker7863 2 жыл бұрын
As much as i prefer your new presentation style, i do still find "KIRBY, METEOR OF DEATH" rather charming even 3 years later
@OlmiOP
@OlmiOP 2 жыл бұрын
KIRBY, METEOR OF DEATH Your commentary has definitely improved a lot over the years but I sometimes do still miss stuff like that tbh lmao
@s18cyt
@s18cyt 2 жыл бұрын
the growth in this video is insane you’ve come so far
@gildrax69
@gildrax69 2 жыл бұрын
I can’t wait to see the best of every move post dlc! I do want to say that something I think you overlooked was that if the moves are in a vacuum then bigger hit boxes should be given more consideration.
@itswizardtime63
@itswizardtime63 2 жыл бұрын
I think you should rank all the stalling-falls in the game. It would be a really interesting list.
@MockRockTalk
@MockRockTalk 2 жыл бұрын
That one's already on my idea document, it'll get made at some point!
@itswizardtime63
@itswizardtime63 2 жыл бұрын
@@MockRockTalk Ah, I see. Can you make a competitive tier list for all smash characters? I love your content man👍
@benbaez6044
@benbaez6044 2 жыл бұрын
YES YES YES! This is the content I found your channel in, this is exactly the itch I've been having! Thank you so much! Edit: after having watched the video, this is even MORE the kind of content I was hoping for. Seeing the game be transformed by balance patches was exciting, since Ultimate's cycle was my first time being present in the greater community with an active interest, and having this summary that goes over those changes is a bit like recapturing that magic.
@chordalharmony
@chordalharmony 2 жыл бұрын
Rosa players (and by that I mean Dabuz) use Rosa’s attack cancels a lot still. If you’re seeing luma get a weird dash foreword, it’s likely attack cancel nair. Granted, it’s mostly just dash attack cancel aerial, but still nice
@chefdunsparce4254
@chefdunsparce4254 2 жыл бұрын
Kinda wish you did best changes for each Pokemon of the trainer trio it's hard to say exactly what are the best changes considering how bad PT was in brawl
@Cadesworth
@Cadesworth 2 жыл бұрын
yo you know what would be dope? An item pull tier list. Some characters have item pulls in their moveset (eg. Rob's Gyro, Bowser Jr. Mechakoopa, Peach's turnips, etc). it would be cool to rank them against each other. great video as always!
@elliotanderson324
@elliotanderson324 2 жыл бұрын
Loved the vid, if you kept doing stuff like this I think it could really work with the format.
@mauricesteel4995
@mauricesteel4995 2 жыл бұрын
A really good aspect of Ike's Aether is that being a kill move makes it closer than what it is in Fire Emblem, where Aether is one of the stronger skills and deals insane damage.
@jordanthejq12
@jordanthejq12 2 жыл бұрын
You mentioned Pokemon Change as being PT's most improved move overall--what would you say for the Pokemon themselves individually?
@hambughrr8186
@hambughrr8186 2 жыл бұрын
Pokémon Trainer's best change is actually a 2-way tie between faster swapping and Pokémon no longer getting exhausted mid battle. As for individual 'Mons, Ivysaur's aerials are now monstrous, with Up Air and Down Air being more infamous than the others.
@jmurray1110
@jmurray1110 2 жыл бұрын
Squirtile probably just landing lag changes but his upsmash probably (he was the best in brawl and loosing type effectiveness was actually quite bad for him give he had a fire resistance, Ivesaur was the best since he was by far the worst character in brawl, I’d say probably up special it doesn’t get trumped not put him into free fall but it’s basically another pichu situation Charizard more mixed lacking rock smash isn’t great, probably back air but I’m not particularly familiar with his shady 4 kit (hell I’m basically unfamiliar with every games kit outside of occasional mentions in videos
@jmurray1110
@jmurray1110 2 жыл бұрын
Also type match upd
@jordanthejq12
@jordanthejq12 2 жыл бұрын
@@jmurray1110 Vine Whip is super slept on. It tethers from a pretty reasonable distance, it kills, it hits under PS2 and kills that way...
@samuelhacker7463
@samuelhacker7463 2 жыл бұрын
Kirby: meteor of death is a classic, I think that Mock Rock studios should really be working on a sequel
@dbgr9875
@dbgr9875 2 жыл бұрын
26:15 Would this be more considered an engine change? That looks like a really good combo angle, and without such extreme hitstun cancelling in Ult it would probably be a comparable move.
@jhallway510
@jhallway510 2 жыл бұрын
Great video! Love your content
@adnanilyas6368
@adnanilyas6368 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, your delivery has way improved over three years!
@castform7
@castform7 2 жыл бұрын
I actually rewatched the video a month ago and was taken aback from the different tone compared to now. I definitely think your more mellow? (I don't know what word to use) voice is better for the channel.
@Skymen75019
@Skymen75019 2 жыл бұрын
I don't know why, but I remember some of the lines from that video pretty well. Maybe the over the top delivery kinda did that, but that video stuck in my memory extremely well for some reason
@BromanderInChief
@BromanderInChief 2 жыл бұрын
7:55 Well would you look at that, Bass has been hitting *hella* rests since summit lol. He didn’t take long at all to make this take outdated but I don’t blame you because it wasn’t until very, very recently Bass started to go for more rests.
@zeospark9715
@zeospark9715 2 жыл бұрын
I still think Wario's dash attack is his best move easily. Very fast, very strong, and just one of the most perfect moves to kill with.
@TechnoCookieNG
@TechnoCookieNG 2 жыл бұрын
I'd love to see an updated version of the Best Animation video, I really love animation analysis videos
@plabcentral630
@plabcentral630 Жыл бұрын
Kirby meteor of death was funny
@ectogrey
@ectogrey 2 жыл бұрын
this channel is what keeps me going
@GigaOtomia
@GigaOtomia 2 жыл бұрын
Personally, I really liked the more schlock-y tone of voice you had in your earlier videos. I thought it suited you pretty well.
@ericancion2442
@ericancion2442 2 жыл бұрын
Good stuff like this format
@DoctorNovakaine
@DoctorNovakaine 2 жыл бұрын
I'm eager to see the retrospective for worst change, because that's equally interesting and I remember being highly amused by some of it.
@rafaelvial7737
@rafaelvial7737 2 жыл бұрын
Great video! But I wanted to know if you had the following moves/ into consideration Mii Gunner's somehow having probably the best up b out of shield in the game And Bayonetta's Witch Time even tho it was nerfed to the ground, it now works on projectiles, wich has some niche use
@llliwwille
@llliwwille 2 жыл бұрын
Always love your videos dude
@y2jackson921
@y2jackson921 2 жыл бұрын
YES BEST OF EVERY MOVE RETURNS, I have watched the OG ones like 6 times
@bokobo6295
@bokobo6295 2 жыл бұрын
Pretty funny to see Modern MockRock react to Classic MockRock. When is MockRock Generations coming out?
@LloydTheZephyrian
@LloydTheZephyrian 2 жыл бұрын
Past MockRock sounds so much more alive, not gonna lie.
@mikeychrisanthus9948
@mikeychrisanthus9948 2 жыл бұрын
Ummmm, I forgot that wario up tilt was nerfed. I almost never played wario until recently when I’ve been trying to get all elite smash characters, and I kept wondering why it wasn’t as insane as I heard it was.
@DimzNoms
@DimzNoms 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly old you still sounds good! "KIRBY, METEOR OF DEATH" still got a good chuckle outta me.
@evanpetrolle2596
@evanpetrolle2596 2 жыл бұрын
Hello Mockrock, I hope you’re doing very well today. That is all, sending you good vibes if you need them:)
@sh-awe7328
@sh-awe7328 2 жыл бұрын
8:57 I would still say down smash is a good choice. I haven't watched a lot of tourney footage lately so I don't know how it is at top level but I main Bowser, and it kills by the ledge barely later than forward smash while having barely half the startup. It's my go to when someone leaves themselves open while they're cornered. It also gives him a very devastating parry punish against moves where forward smash would still be too slow even with a parry.
@ThePika78
@ThePika78 Ай бұрын
*Insert the SpongeBob meme of him taking out a picture of the grocery worker and comparing it 2 years ago vs 3 years later*
@Delzethin
@Delzethin 2 жыл бұрын
Arcfire's a lot better now (as long as you don't try to zone with it; it's not designed for that), but honestly I think two other things could work for Robin's best change in Ultimate: - All four Thunder spells are useful and have their own roles to play now. Thunder is a low-commitment poke with a few combo routes based on positioning, Elthunder is a conventional zoning move that can also snipe offstage, Arcthunder changed from a setup tool to a hard hitting, shield shredding, safe on block anti-rushdown cluster of pain, and Thoron got its knockback values changed to where it can kill super early offstage or at the ledge while still being a full screen punish and zone breaker that destroys weaker projectiles on contact and keeps going. In Smash 4, Arcthunder was the only spell worth using 80% of the time. In Ultimate, all four are worth using (though Thoron is more situational than the others). - Robin's neutral air gained a Levin Sword version, and it is a _war crime_ in motion. While it's not a quick pressure breaker or combo starter like most nairs are, instead it's secretly one of the best spacing tools in the entire game. Not only does it outrange every other neutral air in the game aside from Mega Man's, it outranges almost every _forward and back air_ in the game! Did I mention it's Frame 7 and its knockback angle sends people straight horizontally, making it as useful for stage control and edgeguarding as Smash 4 Cloud's nair was while being on a character who can safely go way further offstage than Cloud ever could?
@plet0707
@plet0707 2 жыл бұрын
I absolutely love your content, but man, I'd be lying if I said I didn't kinda miss your earlier, funnier style of videos just a little bit. Real good video though!
@seanelmlinger1198
@seanelmlinger1198 Жыл бұрын
Mighty afflitions but this truly is topnotch, for the better in analying ot, what to clebvertew this year with it there. ❤
@santajohnsduraorduraclause4678
@santajohnsduraorduraclause4678 Жыл бұрын
Kirby meteor of cringe
@10types
@10types 2 жыл бұрын
So happy this is post dlc. Really makes a difference
@RacingSnails64
@RacingSnails64 2 жыл бұрын
"She's used her vegetables all the time." I wonder if that could be some kind of innuendo... lol Good video as always! Great insights and points.
@ashen_roses
@ashen_roses 2 жыл бұрын
Whoa I always wanted an update! And dw if you think past you might have been cringey or tryhard or whatever the kids say- without a doubt, you are the clearest and most engaging speaker on KZbin. Great voice (I'm nb and go femme a lot but would kill for that voice), clear diction, and a nice tidal tone of voice that beautifully weaves in and out of whatever the conversation is. And everything you say sounds both off the cuff and scripted bc of spontaneous little inputs and clear concise both info and essay section. Medical stuff has made my voice kinda clunky and diction embarrassing but you speak like how I want others to read my writing someday. Lotta odd compliments ik but you could only embarrass yourself with how you've grown from a strong start!
@Lambs4lyf
@Lambs4lyf 2 жыл бұрын
Omg it was so funny to hear old mockrock’s voice
@estebanruiz7130
@estebanruiz7130 2 жыл бұрын
Well, that was a trip down memory lane, when I could still go to locals.
@BoBnfishy
@BoBnfishy 2 жыл бұрын
Other than your old "announcer voice" the video legit holds up really well. 10/10
@DeronHargrove
@DeronHargrove 2 жыл бұрын
I quite enjoyed this. Was cool to see what characters benefitted from Ultimate
@forfeited4626
@forfeited4626 2 жыл бұрын
Good vid bro!
@adrianoamram2140
@adrianoamram2140 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent as always
@ARGHETH
@ARGHETH Жыл бұрын
I'd say Falcon is definitely still up B because tech checking was removed.
@junesahead
@junesahead 2 жыл бұрын
I still enjoy the way old MockRock talks!
@zernek9199
@zernek9199 2 жыл бұрын
For Yoshi, a semi-significant change is that B-Air kills better. In Sm4sh, B-Air was a strange move where each hit had a ton of hitlag, making it seem like a powerful move, but its damage was average and it basically never killed. In Ultimate, it actually kills now!
@zernek9199
@zernek9199 Жыл бұрын
Super Late Edit: It’s definitely Up-B, the eggs go farther and it’s a better actual recovery move, not sure how I forgot about that
@seansean792
@seansean792 2 жыл бұрын
Hearing the difference between the old "announcer" voice and the "I don't drink coffee anymore" voice keeps making me laugh 😂
@dominicarps715
@dominicarps715 2 жыл бұрын
KIRBY! METEOR OF DEATH! is to this day one of my favorite quotes from all of youtubeland.
@burbusburbus8782
@burbusburbus8782 2 жыл бұрын
I'm hoping you do the vice versa, updating the older list of worst changed after buffs and stuff
@jonathanlgill
@jonathanlgill 2 жыл бұрын
You're too harsh on your old self. The video pretty much holds up. I think Marth/Lucina's Side-B is the one take that I disagree with: MkLeo in Smash4 got a lot of use out of Side-B. I don't think it's changed that much.
@cjlite0210
@cjlite0210 2 жыл бұрын
4:49 Kirby the pink beyblade was funny, but yeah, I actually prefer Kirby's new dash attack since it doesn't feel slow af, it feels like he keeps momentum now
@dylanr.7760
@dylanr.7760 2 жыл бұрын
Man the nostalgia….
@elmo3766
@elmo3766 2 жыл бұрын
Bowser main here I basically agree with the comment you wrote to Tierzoo back in the older vid about his dsmash (which basically means I would kinda disagree with what you said in this video, emphasis on the "kinda", though), mainly because, while fire breath became much better as well, it already had some really good uses in smash 4, whereas his dsmash went from completely outclassed to filling somewhat of a unique role in his kit: a great way to callout spotdodges, a super strong punish against people regrabbing the ledge, it can cover techs in place pretty nicely... You know, stuff that no other move in his kit does quite as well
@impstuff6279
@impstuff6279 2 жыл бұрын
Prepped for wild grind kk ty
@BylethsBoba776
@BylethsBoba776 2 жыл бұрын
Fantastic video
@alansmithee920
@alansmithee920 2 жыл бұрын
7:38 sing was always capable of what it can do now (aside from in melee). it's just that no one labbed it out, but I've been doing jab reset into sing since smash 64.
@petery6432
@petery6432 Жыл бұрын
The "good Bayonetta change" gag still gets me 😂
@grizhawk2283
@grizhawk2283 2 жыл бұрын
I think Jr’s best change by far is jab Almost useless in smash 4 and didn’t work a lot Now one of the best jabs in the game and kills at like 100 at the ledge
@MockRockTalk
@MockRockTalk 2 жыл бұрын
That's a universal change to the way rapid jabs work, Bowser Jr was one of the big winners of that change but it's not eligible for the list
@grizhawk2283
@grizhawk2283 2 жыл бұрын
@@MockRockTalk oh I see I didn’t realize it was universal
@alextunneyware
@alextunneyware 2 жыл бұрын
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