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[@Vlogbiker]

Del, just a note: Although Im not in the field anymore I am a fully qualified Electrical Engineer and Yes lithium batteries are able to produce the Cranking Amps and in almost all cases much more than their same physical sized counterparts but they do lack the capacity, as in Amp Hours, so if you were to leave headlights on with a standard battery and with a lithium battery the lithium would most likely last 1/10th the time (motor off). This is why I never use lithium on my bikes as a courier because the constant start stops would probably only ever give me one shot at starting the bike by the end of a day, I use AGM type batteries and they are usually higher in amp hours and come in at 1/3 less weight than the lead acids.The downfall to lithium batteries is once you run them flat they damage really badly where the AGM will not and will hold their charge for months on end without needing a charge. Lithiums dont like being left at full charge over an extended long period. Also on some bikes you may end up with a run away heat issue as lithiums take more amps heat up and take more viscous cycle, regulators etc on older bikes and even the alternator can cook and damage or worse case the lithiums catch on fire and dissipate all the energy stored in a few seconds pretty horrific and hot.

[@rasmushjs5318]

VlogBiker . Most lithium bike batterie's today has a build in BMS, so no overdrain problems, besides dead.

[@Vlogbiker]

yeah true, but if I was going on a remote road trip I'd rather have 10x the capacity rather than the weight difference to an AGM battery and besides it is barely what you would drink to keep hydrated in weight..... I would agree if you do track and every little amount of weight would make a difference but this is a street fighter

[@TheEnergyball]

I've been catching the build less recently but incredible the number of days and hours you've put into the bike...never mind video production. Though not a quick result it is a reminder that steady effort and quality work will always yield satisfaction. It's looking great Del! Must feel great to come into the garage on days between the build where you can check it out and dream the next steps. In a way it's what we are going for - to finish a project. Sometimes you don't want it to end for the joy it's been. Then it's time to remember the intention you had in starting. You and Penny take care!

[@Moonfleet41]

Hi Ali, Thank you so much for those kind words, ON average the Post Production is about the same as the pre production work.. 5 hours filming in this build nets about 2 hours of footage over maybe 150 clips... and that can take between 4 and 8 hours to edit and render.. but i dont count that in the build time.. thats just time on the bike only.. You are right, often ill grab a brew and go stand in the garage and stare at the bike searching for the next inspiration.. its a great way to guess your new moves aye.. Thanks so much for your kind support my friend, all the best.. Del.

[@hdrk59]

Nice job Del...thank you as always for sharing.

[@Cueballproductions1149]

looks fab del that battery is mad keep em coming

[@ianlawrie919]

Sat through a night of everyone else's choice of Netflix, waiting in great expectation of my Delboy's hit. Did not disappoint!

[@Moonfleet41]

Thanks Ian, Im glad we could come to the rescue.. lol!!! really appreciate your kind words buddy.

[@raytokens2291]

Pukka job Bruvva looks tidy. Good to see the video in normal speed and your welding looks tidy too. That plastic tray is enormous. Looking forward to seeing her rear end. See you Sunday Bruvva. Ride safe.

[@Moonfleet41]

Hi there Ray, Thanks mate.. yeah, proper daft massive things aye... who needs a sarnie tray anyway right..? Looking forward to Sunday mate.. hoping for some dry roads..

[@raytokens2291]

Moonfleet41 it would be nice to have dry roads but I've just got s go pro hero 5 black so it's my first big ride with it on. I'm looking forward to it rain or shine 😁😁😁😁

[@les5386]

It's looking great Del. You are a top notch fabricator.

[@Moonfleet41]

Thank you Les, that is very kind.. im just self taught and make it the best i can by trial and error, and of course.. Practice..!

[@charliefarlie6469]

Hi Del , that whole under seat unit is a work of art and a thing of beauty , let’s face it , if you were looking for one on eBay I reckon you’d be on there an awful long time LOL . Your welding skills have come on a treat , be proud buddy ,we’re all tuned in because we’re enjoying what we see,👍🏻 , cheers for now, C

[@Moonfleet41]

Blimey, Thanks so much Charlie, thats really kind of you. im really enjoying the welding now, finally got the settings and technique half way right.. and its cool to be able to finally leave some of the welds on show. I'm a few videos ahead in terms of filming and build progress, and all i can say (dont wanna spoil it lol) is that it gets a lot better yet.. the internals contents of the seat unit has turned out even smaller than i had hopes for... i'ts gonna look so radical..lol.. Thanks so much again my friend, its always good to hear from you.. take care.. Del & Pennyx

[@FighterOnline]

I hope this Streetfigher Built Story never ends, while the videos are so exciting...

[@Moonfleet41]

Thank you my friend, you are very kind... once i get this all finished, then ill start another one, bigger and better...! Fighters Forever..

[@rsbharley4766]

It's looking good Del, I can’t get over how light that battery is! Also nice bit of welding mate. Looking forward to the next one. Enjoy your days off. Cheers

[@Moonfleet41]

Hi buddy.. yeah me too.. i make no exaggeration when i say it truly feels like its empty. lots more to come, and it gets better too... take care and have a good week... Del.

[@bandit61000]

You make things look so easy. Amazing.

[@Moonfleet41]

Thanks Henrik.

[@phil-oq9id]

That bike is going to look so good. Nice one del. 😁😁

[@Moonfleet41]

Thanks Phil.. glad you approve mate..

[@steven8-stones719]

Great!!! Liked that very much!!!! Can’t wait for Saturday Thanks guys!

[@Moonfleet41]

Thanks Steven.. i think you'll like the next three videos on this.. its going to be really compact and tiny... which is just what i wanted..

[@Rob.1340]

good fab work.moving along nicely.all the best.

[@Moonfleet41]

Thanks Rob.. really enjoying it now..

[@wallabybob3020]

Perfect way to end my day with another great vid from Del! First thing I do on all my bikes is ditch the stock battery and throw in a Lithium ion. Makes a huge difference. Can't wait to see what you're going to fabricate for the tail section.

[@Moonfleet41]

Thanks Nick.. first one ive tried, so im keen to see the benefits.. im sure ill be told they are 'dangerous' by certain elements out there.. but it comes well recommended by many good people i trust... and i was staggered at the ridiculous light weight.. it truly feels like its empty..!!!!! and i love the little "charge level button" too.. very handy.

[@jonboy-kb1jj]

Coming together nicely Del, I can’t get over how light that battery is!!

[@Moonfleet41]

Me neither Jon. its truly feels like its empty...! thanks for your kind words... Del.

[@CookingwithChefDai]

You’ve got be happy with how that’s turned out Del. Very tidy indeed and lovely bit of welding!!!!

[@Moonfleet41]

Thank you so much Dai, i did alloy myself a little "yesss" with a few of those welds i have to admit.. practice makes perfect aye... I see that "Road-wash-week" is progressing nicely.. and it'll soon be glorious sunshine, and 72 degrees..we'll take that ride along the Jurassic coast roads aye... Happy days to come... Love to you all buddy... Del & Pennyx

[@jeromechavanel6536]

Thanks for the videos, the amount of work invested into those is just staggering. I hope that you won´t be disappointed in the Li-Ion battery, have not heard much good about those except the weight.

[@Moonfleet41]

Hi Jerome, Ive never heard anything bad about them so far.. have you then..? what is it that would be disappointing?.. Thanks for your kind words too, each video is maybe 12 to 15 hours with pre and post production, so three a week is a lot of work.. its great to know that its appreciated Jerome, take care my friend.. Del.

[@grogg3301]

Hi, (finally took time to change google user name) I recently passed driving license. Motorcycle school next door to mine had 3 on their Honda and they died within 9 months. Might be linked to specific usage but had similar feedback on forums with cruiser bikes...now it may well depend on the alternator and its characteristics. Another point is that I used similar battery on drones (much smaller) and they are sensitive to hot temperatures and do not bear well at all discharge during prolongated non-use periods. To finish I think that chargers have to be specificly compliant with such batteries, I would check twice before wintering it. I do not want to alarm since they have advantages, I never had one myself but I thought to share those thoughts, they worth at least a check. Thanks again and keep us posted, I do learn scores of interesting stuff here!

[@grogg3301]

Good to get real-life feedback! Not sure about LiFePo in comparison to Li-Ion, I hope/guess this does not make a real difference. As mentioned, only real-life feedback I had some doubts about the fact that usage was not adequate, it looks like - VlogBiker's comment - capacity might be an issue. I guess this is easy to control depending on face-value capacity of the battery.

[@mickusable]

That's great chief, still loving them, eagerly waiting for the great unvail when everything's done.

[@oatsy84]

Take a look back at 12.30 onwards Del your blue role is looks like it hyperventilating mate. Will be interesting to see the finish now you are changing it last minute. Keep up the hard work on all the editing and responses you do. I reckon you could of knocked up two full projects by now if you weren’t doing the decent thing and taking us along with you. Thanks Del & Penny

[@Moonfleet41]

Thanks so much for your kind words my friend, you're not wrong, could have finished this long ago, but I probably wouldn't have taken as much time with the detail if the world wasn't watching, so thanks to you lot, it's gonna be a better result... thank you for your support !

[@ChrisDalvikBxl]

Hahaha! that All I saw as well during Del's explanation!

[@garya3056]

Man, you are good. Great vid, Del. Shaping up nicely. Hope all is well there! 🏍👍🏍

[@Moonfleet41]

Thanks Gary, good to hear form you my friend, all good here, a sunny day at last, and im stuck indoors editing two videos all day.. ho hum.. time to play at the weekend... Always good to hear from you Gary, take care and keep in touch.. D&Px

[@garya3056]

Moonfleet41 hurrah for the sun whether you’re inside or out it’s better than cold rain, my friend.

[@lambo2817]

Coming on nicely matey!

[@albertheaton6455]

Great welding del not long before you can fabricate your own frame cheers

[@Moonfleet41]

Hi Albert, thanks mate, its getting close.. id use 2mm wall tubing, and once i can make stable and fully penetrated welds consistently, then i would take the plunge and give it a try... at the moment id say maybe 30% of the welds i make would be up to frame building standard.. so a way to go yet.. but at least im getting them right some of the time... so its all progress aye.. thanks mate../ have a good week.. Del.

[@rambosskidlid2459]

Loved this, well done mate, you are very talented. Nice one - keep up the good work.

[@Moonfleet41]

Thanks mate, you're very kind.. its a fun build..

[@paulharast1958]

That was an awesome job , and I just realized that the red things you were using were magnets....

[@Moonfleet41]

Yes buddy.. dedicated welding magnets, they help to hold things at the right angle for welding, saves burning your hands..lol Good to hear from you as ever.. take care... Del.

[@robertmillington50]

Looking good that ant moving anywhere can't wait for next one

[@Moonfleet41]

Thanks Robert.. tiz beef indeed..!

[@hardy-xn1kq]

Good job, Del!

[@8ball903]

Your welding is coming on there bud 🤛

[@Moonfleet41]

Cheer buddy.. thats praise indeed coming from you.. im a few videos ahead in real time, and as there is no frame for this, and just the battery and electrics to mount.. its turned out incredibly small. in fact, with everything mounted, it all still fits under that steel seat base i hammered out, which is about the same size as yours on the Triumph... and its still 10 inches to the middle top of the tyre.. ha ha.. proper stumpy now..lol!

[@8ball903]

Moonfleet41 awesome bud, it will look proper job .😎

[@markgr1nyer]

Awww I'm touched mate. Thanks a lot

[@Moonfleet41]

You're more than welcome brother.. it takes a lionheart to stand on the line and help those who need it.. you know how it is in this life.. in ever hundred men, there are 99 watches..!

[@Tylerjrb]

Great stuff as always. Always full of idea's (gave me some nice ideas for the future) and certainly getting better with the welding! box looks great.

[@Moonfleet41]

Thank you for your kind words Tyler, im getting a lot of practice with this, and its great to be getting some good results now..

[@colinsharp1314]

Looking great mate keep it up cheers Colin

[@fader2701]

another killer build.

[@stevelong6358]

Nice job del. looking good.

[@smokingviper1]

Watching these to chill down... me oil sump bolt has just snapped off in the oil pan... 🔫🔫 swear i have no luck with bikes 😂

[@Moonfleet41]

Oh bugger... thats a kick in the spuds mate... can you get a drill but into it..(small one), then use an easyout..?

[@geoffozevans4500]

Nice but of work Del, looks good & spot on for adding all the other stuff. Hi to PP 🖒😎

[@Moonfleet41]

Thanks Geoff.. it feels like each step is guiding the next, so yeah, now i can see where all the wiring and fuses etc will go.. progressive design mate.. works for me..lol!

[@ad7ft]

Great job Del, almost a "how to" weld mild steel.

[@Moonfleet41]

Hi Doc.. Blimey thats a blast from the past... the good old "How-To" video... sadly no longer a format we see any more..!

[@suzuki750stu]

That old compartment is for your Murray Mints 😂, great work as always buddy, regards Stu

[@Moonfleet41]

Blimey, remember them... "Too good to hurry Mints"... showing yer age mate.. lol!

[@scottsabin2245]

What a best way to have a coffee in the morning before work . Your welding comeing on now del roll on Saturdays video

[@Moonfleet41]

Thanks Scott, enjoy mate... always good to hear from you.. Del.

[@bigfatpear]

good job.

[@129NATE]

Some serious magic trickery in that battery tech. Need an upgrade for my bike I think.

[@Moonfleet41]

I reckon its filled with magic wishes... coz anything else would weigh more...!

[@funkphreek]

Hi Del - I am also doing the same thing having a Lithium Ion battery but are not sure what the best charger should be for them as my Optimate 4 is not recommended - any advice on chargers for Ion batteries ?

[@Moonfleet41]

Hi buddy.. here' an option for you... www.wemoto.com/parts/picture/bf-700bcl1500p-uk/ if you're under any doubt, then you can give them a call ,tell them exactly what battery you have, and they will send you the correct charger for it... Hope that helps you out.. Del.

[@funkphreek]

Brilliant, many thanks Del

[@ollieb9875]

Thanks Del! Be interesting to see what's inside that battery.. I wonder if it's bunches of say 4x series 18650's all paralleled up and stuffed in the box 😁 that's what I'd do. Not enjoying this weather! Spring.. hah 😂😂😁 Be well!

[@Moonfleet41]

Honestly mate.. i recon its a packet of Rizlas at best... it feels like it completely empty...

[@ollieb9875]

Moonfleet41 haha! 😂😂😁

[@eaglestrikes1]

Nice job

[@mattstala1184]

welds are looking nice Del. I got a welder for Xmas which I have not used yet as I can only use it outside and as you know the weather has been crap so far, looking forward using it and learning. one question I want to ask is why didn't you draw out the template and then bend the sides and weld rather than cutting individual pieces then welding them together?

[@Moonfleet41]

Hi Matt... Its because its not just regular sheet metal, im using thick 3mm steel plate.. you can't bend it mate.. certainly not sharply enough to make a nice fold.. with plate you have to weld them together individually.. You'll see in the next video that i do bend some to make the fuse box plate, but i had to score it twice with the grinder, and even still the bend was wide and shallow.. more of a targeted curve.. Good luck with your welding mate.. keep practicing, it's just a knack, and once you get it, you'll really enjoy it..! take care and let me know how you get on.. Del.

[@RegNarnoc21]

You can’t go out on your bike without your sandwich’s...

[@MackieBass]

Nice and beef bro! When I've done mine on my little Jawa, I needed to cut two little tabs out to allow wires to connect to terminals, as I found that the angles the wires bend around the edge were too sharp and could potentially run into a problem later on. But that was an easy fix. Nice on - tick, moving on!

[@reimop9595]

Jawa :D

[@Moonfleet41]

Hey Brother... yeah, all in hand, ill be cutting two 'half inch deep' notches around each of the back corners to expose the terminals completely, and make sure the cables can tuck neatly against the battery box without rubbing on the edges.. just for the finish making the plate to hold the fuse box, and ECU so i know where that will attach to the box.. then ill cut them out.. Hope you're getting out on the bike, its still raining here. but we're out for some fun with the Collective this weekend what ever the weather. Pip pip.. Del.

[@dazdncnfusd6447]

Looking good, as always, sir. Interested to see what you do with the tail unit now.

[@Moonfleet41]

Thanks buddy... im really enjoying this myself now...

[@TroubadourJuggernaut]

"Tray for , I don't know ... sandwiches" hahaha

[@Moonfleet41]

Couldn't think of anything better to say. . lol

[@tinks43]

(P) Great welds 👍🏻 Look forward to the rest of it 😀

[@Moonfleet41]

Cheers buddy, its exactly what i had in mind, even though i didn't know what i had in mind... so im dead happy with that.. lol!

[@jonathaneddy]

Is it just me or are your welds getting better and better? Lovely job. A couple of observations; 1. Battery retaining strap? It looks pretty tight but it might be worth a rubber strap. AFAIK Li-Ion don't do well with vibrations so anything to keep it tight in the tray should help prolong its life. 2. Battery terminal access? Not sure how the loom will work with the new tray but you might need to consider how you are going to access those terminal, especially when it comes to wiring in accessories. Perhaps a couple of cut-outs? Lovely work though Del, and it's great to see the design evolving.

[@Moonfleet41]

Hi Jonathan, Thanks so much for your kind praise.. id say im proud of maybe 50% of the welds, and maybe 30% of them are up to frame building standard now.. its been great to practice and get all the settings right at last.. With the battery box, ill cut two, half inch deep notches, around each of the back corners of the box to expose the terminals completely, and make sure the cables can tuck neatly against the battery box without rubbing on the edges.. ive still got to make the tray to hold the fuse box, and the ECU (plus all the other relays and wotnot), and once thats all mounted, then yeah, i will used the old Kawasaki rubber strap to hold it down in the box nice and snug.. also im gonna line that box with some thin foam or rubber to cushion it a bit too... Thanks for all your kind support mate.. im a few videos ahead in real time. and i know you;re really gonna like it once its all mounted.. its so small and compact its gonna look just brutal....Muah ha ha.. !!

[@vimbayimakwavarara]

cool.. are you going to make cuts for your battery terminal cables or will they come over the top without issue?

[@Moonfleet41]

Very much so Vimbayi, ill cut two half inch deep notches around each of the back corners to expose the terminals completely, and make sure the cables can tuck neatly against the battery box without rubbing on the edges..

[@vimbayimakwavarara]

Moonfleet41 lovely...been following from the start of the build... look forward to the completed creation, hope to pay you and PP a visit from Zimbabwe next year 👍🏼

[@Moonfleet41]

AWESOME.. you live in Zim?.. will you be on holiday touring round, or visiting a certain city?.. let us know, it'd be great to meet you... D&P..

[@petkobika]

Very good! Just a thought - the battery terminals are too close to the walls of the box and with this metal box, the chances of shortening the battery are very high.

[@Moonfleet41]

Hi Dqnko, I will be cutting back about half inch of the steel at those back corners to expose the terminals clearly and safely away form the box... it'll all be clear in the next three videos to come... Thank you for your support. Del.

[@petkobika]

Looking forward for the Part 2 ! Nice to be watching the build series! :)

[@chrisrag1346]

Ha ha weight of that battery. .Did make me laugh...... and as always, nice bit of work there 👍

[@Moonfleet41]

Honestly mate. its feels like its an empty box... im hoping it lives up to its reputation.. so many people say they're better... and a few say they aint.. so we shall see aye..See you Sunday mate... Del.

[@chrisrag1346]

Will be interesting to see if they really are as good as there supposed to be!................... and yep see ya sunday Del..

[@HalfdeadRider]

To weigh those bigger parts you probably will get a bit more accurate weight if you weigh yourself then weigh yourself while holding them. You would be better off more with some modern digital scales to I would think. Not that it probably matters too much.

[@Moonfleet41]

Yeah, good point.. but like you said.. it doesn't really matter that much in the end... the bike will be what it will be.. !!

[@marcorleptique]

Hello Del , Wath’s in the can? If i may ask. Thank’ s Marc from P

[@Gus-cg9yp]

Hi, tidy job Del. What's that spray that you use for welding ? thanks. Gus

[@Moonfleet41]

Hi Gus. Its "Anti Splatter" spray, it stops the weld splatter from sticking to the job and the bench.. and makes the welds a bit cleaner... good to hear fro you always.. Del.

[@jayronpercencula8079]

it's good to make box

[@bobgwinn5091]

cool

[@seanodriscoll6463]

(12:27)...hey Poe, what do you have a beating heart wrapped up in blue towels?! How are those paper towels down below to your right, our left moving like that?!

[@Moonfleet41]

I keep a troll in there locked away, and sometimes he likes to try and get out....! (Seriously... the paper roll swings on a bar..and i had just torn a sheet off, so it swings about till it stops..makes the paper wave back and forth... )

[@springy-2112]

How weve changed since Harley Sportster fuel pump and filter !!! I think you were about 12 years old ....and i was 10 !! Peace and love brother ...can you knock me up a zimmer frame i have a spare 4 stroke mower motor ...bloody sciatica Oh well Chiro on friday hopefully staighten me up ...im soo old but my brain is still in 1973 😲❤❤❤❤☮

[@Moonfleet41]

1973 ?... And id be happy to stay there for the rest of my life too mate.. (and we know another bloke that'd join us right..lol! ) Oh and i was indeed 12 in that video.. it was me signing too you know...! Soon be summer and we can play out again.. Pip pip me duck..:-)

[@sjtheroadshenanigansofabri6631]

Don't forget the lighter tank as the dash has gone buddy

[@ianm8429]

Digital scales required me thinks! ;-)

[@BlackHarleyRider1]

Thinking outloud...would that battery have enough 'guts' to turn over my Victory Highball, original batt coming up to 6yrs old now and like me showing its age 😉

[@Moonfleet41]

This exact battery wouldn't turn it over no.. its too low ampage, its for a 750cc Jap bike... but the 'correct' Lithium battery would do.. they have the same cranking amps as your factory battery if you buy the right one.. but TBH you dont need to save space or weight on your Victory right?.. so you could just buy a Motobatt instead.. they are a heavy duty battery, have more CCA than your factory battery, and cost about half the price of a Lithium. Wemoto sell them online if you need one buddy.. Oh and BTW... the Highball is the best Victory ever IMHO... great choice.!

[@BlackHarleyRider1]

Moonfleet41 Thanks for that Del, your right, I have no need to save weight or space, I was looking for options before I ordered one... it has been acting up since I plugged in my optimate but didnt switch it on...battery completely drained and took a long time to bring back to life... Agreed, Highball is a fantastic bike 35k and rides and looks great 😎

[@jamievandalen]

the paint will add more weight then that battery!

[@Moonfleet41]

ha ha yeah... when i left the garage after this i gaffa taped it to the bench in case it floated away.. !

[@No-HomoTim]

Do you know what the anti-splatter is comprised of?

[@Moonfleet41]

No mate.. i have no idea, im sure you'll tell me though.?

[@No-HomoTim]

I wish I could. I tried searching around the web but I can't figure it out. I did run across some people using Pam or other similar nonstick cooking spray, not sure how well that would work...

[@Moonfleet41]

Oh right, i thought you knew, and were gonna tell me it was something daft like Olive oil lol... im sure if it mattered i could rewad it on the can... either way.. it works well for keeping splatter down and making the welds cleaner..

[@mattbridge6925]

Del instead of inner tube to stop the rattle in that box hobby craft sell A4 sheets of stick back foam in varying thicknesses that maybe better.

[@mattbridge6925]

And its cheap as chips 50p a sheet or there abouts

[@Moonfleet41]

Thanks mate, thats great news.. im in there quite often for other stuff.. so ill have a look.. cheers buddy..

[@christophershirley1303]

(P) youre really enjoying the welding again! Excuse the novice suggestion Del... You've done a massive weight save there with the battery. Would it be worth cutting a disc out of each face of the battery box to preserve even more of that weight loss? It might also make lifting the battery out easier too if ever it got jammed in. Or would it cost you too much in strength if youre using it as a weight bearing piece? Cheers Chris

[@Moonfleet41]

Hi Chris.. yeah, good thought, i could well do that... im not actually bothered about the weight thing, its more a curiosity than anything else... and as it is a load bearing structure, id maybe cut some 1 inch holes.. but going much bigger could weaken the box.. remember as its open at the top, any pull in the back face of it needs the strength to spread through the other 5 faces.. so ill see what else i end up welding into it as strength and if i can spare the metal.. if i can, then i may get the cutter out again... Thanks for your support my friend , its always good to hear from you... D&Px

[@vittorio974]

Nice fabrication as always but I think you could copy what factories do: You 've made a very sturdy bridge already and you could bolt on your tail structure entirely on that. The tail structure could be out of pipes in aluminum or stainless steel, bended to certain degrees and welded together. The boxes for battery and etc you could fabricate them out of abs or pvc sheets to loose more weight. I can't tell whats on your mind yet you didn't show us a sketch or something about the tail. I am just brainstorming...

[@Moonfleet41]

Hi Viktor.. good to hear from you.. I like your ideas there.. sounds a lot like the way that Spondon used to make their alloy frames... With this im making the whole thing structural, the battery box is part of the chassis, it will hold my weight and the rest of the tail.. so there is no need for any frame, but it does need to be very strong and solid.. this will allow me to make it really small and hold all the electrics and battery.. then just some small bodywork round it for shape, and a seat on top of that... thank you again for your input, its great to share ideas aye.... take care.. Del.

[@MattSaysSmile]

👍

[@brendan697]

Nice weld buddy☺

[@suzukietc1373]

Do those li-ion batteries get warm when charging like phone batteries? Though about one for a while but would want to put it somewhere with a bit of air flow on my little tracker as the glass mat battery I have is lighter than a lithium and can be sort of positioned on its side. The lithium ones can go anywhere Really, and it's kick start only so no worries of it being a big battery

[@Moonfleet41]

"Your glass mat battery is lighter than a Lithium"?... are you sure mate?.. this weighs less than a pound... any lighter and you'd have to bungee it down so it doesn't float away....lol I read these messages this morning about heat while charging..so poked mine on charge in the garage today... and id say at worst it got mildly warm, but not hot... certainly not enough to need air flow.. plus of course, imagine the amount of heat sync from the steel box drawing the heat away from the battery...? Ill always be modifying this bike on onw way or another.. so i guess if it needs it, i can do it later.. still got so much other stuff to do...

[@suzukietc1373]

Moonfleet41 i was supposed to say lead acid, I should really spell check my comments lol. Thanks got the reply. May see what the smallest li-ion is I can use. The glass mat isn't much lighter than lead acid, only reason I got it was so I could lay it on its side in the tail unit

[@ZingTowPootWerkins]

Plastidip the inside of your battery box, to help prevent any TZZZT moments later :)

[@Moonfleet41]

Good idea.. i like that.. but i reckon it'd need to be about 30 coats to be thick enough to insulate..lol!

[@mickusable]

Everything after video 112 has been de!eted, any idea why Del?

[@Moonfleet41]

Hi Mick... 113, 114 and 115 haven't been deleted, they haven't been published yet, they're simply still being edited mate.. the project is up to date about 3 videos ahead in order to give me time to do the post production... they are there, but just not published yet.. they go up every Wednesday and Saturday buddy..so you'll see them in order as next week rolls through.. and 113 will be the first one, up tomorrow morning...

[@mattwyeth3156]

The welding is looking better a guy in Australia had a problem with that type of battery can't remember what it was (wombat ) was his name does work on cafe racers I think

[@Moonfleet41]

Oh really Matthew.. ok, interested to hear about that... what happened?.. I know they need the right battery charger (which i already have in place), and if you fit the wrong battery spec to your bike they can cause charging issues.. but both of those are not faults with the battery, they would be misuse.. so what happend to wombat mate..?

[@piper2458]

Potential problem with the battery box. You made the box 'to size', on the assumption that for the rest of the bikes life it will always have a lithium ion battery. Perhaps it would have been prudent to fabricate a box to fit a regular battery, then use shims to brace the smaller lith bat. Just a thought.

[@Moonfleet41]

Hi Tom.. thought it all through first.. and that was a consideration, the remit was to make a tail unit that was a tiny and compact as possible.. i wanted it to look like there is hardly anything under the seat, and to show off the shock and swingarm.. so part of the reason for the Lithium battery was because of the short height, i could tuck it up out of the way.. so to fabricate the box to take a regular tall battery would kind of defeat the object..!! If for some unknown reason (at this point) i am unable to run a Lithium, (and i cant think of one yet), then i can easily cut out the base of the box, and drop it down an inch so its deeper.. problem solved..! Thanks for your thoughts matey, its great to know that viewers are thinking about the videos and not just watching and turning off... we realyl appreciate that... take care.. Del.

[@mattwyeth3156]

I think voltage issue the battery melted when he fixed issue he had no more problems with it

[@Moonfleet41]

Melted?.. bloody hell.. ill keep a fire extinguisher close by when i connect it then.. thanks buddy..

[@mikestewart7322]

Is it my imagination Del, or do your garage lights go dim when you use the welder? Why are you building a battery box that could with stand a nuclear blast and must weigh 3 kilos, when that funky little battery only weighs something close to nothing. Just looks a bit over engineered to me. But I know little when it comes to such things. Not a criticism just trying to understand mate.👍🏻👍🏻😂

[@Moonfleet41]

Hi Mike, no worries at all mate.. i mentioned it at the beginning.. im making the battery box a structural part of the tail unit, it actually replaces the frame, welded to the front support because it will support my weight as well as the battery, electrics and all the other bodywork i make the tail from.. its a "Monocoque" design.. meaning that the chassis or frame of the part is formed from the body itself... Making it this way (with no internal frame) will allow me to make it really small and compact, which is the look i want for this bike..but as it is then structural, it needs to be strong and solid.. Hope that makes sense mate... stick with it, once its all built up and supporting all the electrics, you'll see how tiny it is.. and im a few videos head now too.. so the finished item weighs 2 1/2 Kg, so yeah, a bit chunky..but less than the saving of the battery..

[@Jelmer77]

What's that in your workbench next to your garbage bin at 12:30-ish... You hiding a monster or something? :p

[@Moonfleet41]

Ha ha.. the paper roll swings on its mounting... so the troll i keep in there likes to play in it when he's bored..

[@miczap11]

first

[@Moonfleet41]

Not quite. but thanks.. !!:-)

[@snappo20]

Nice one Del - lovely to see an SSCBB sticker in your workshop! I’m proud to ride for them!

[@Moonfleet41]

Ayup Snappo... Long Long Long time no see mate... so good to hear from you again, hows life and work etc.. are you still running the Paintball centre?.. im not surprised you ride with the Blood Bikers..its your kinda thing aye.. Keep in touch mate.. it'd be good to see you again some day.. have a great week mate.. all the best. Del.

[@snappo20]

Moonfleet41 I’ve been out of the paintball job almost 18 months now mate, they decided I was no longer required! I’m working self employed as a First Aid trainer now, and I was getting into CBT training too, but that’s had to take a back seat lately as there’s just not enough money in bike instructing, or the Bike industry in general, as you yourself have said before! I’ll have to try and get down to see you one of these days, it’d be great to get a guided tour of the famous workshop! Best to you and Penny Pitstop buddy!