More Customization is Coming to the iPhone!

In this clip, Marques, Andrew, and David talk about iOS18 and the upcoming customization features including the ability to (kind of) put icons anywhere on the home screen.
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[@nazbond8851]

Im with Andrew. A) it's on someone else's phone so why would I care and B) Isn't this exactly what we've been asking for collectively?

[@thekinkshamer1177]

Right! Like coming from an android user who switched to IOS. Customization is extremely overrated. Android’s customization most time need a launcher. It’s so mind blowing that Apple is able to just change colors without the need of it

[@PSy84]

unfortunately there are few apps not following the colors and theme set in android😢.

[@Olivertm11]

No, that’s not what we asked for. What we want is the ability to install themes/icons packs, not a f*cking color tinting thing.

[@James-lw3gi]

@@thekinkshamer1177100% agree. Android UI gets out of control very quickly - it ends up feeling so disjointed and messy. Seems like you’re damned if you do and damned if you don’t. I was kinda surprised at the general negativity expressed in this video.

[@thekinkshamer1177]

@@Olivertm11 boohoo you’ll live

[@b3naqua]

The colorizing of app icons in 18 feels very MySpace 2002 aesthetics

[@ArquelCudia_xAMTCx]

That means iPhone are REALLY BEHIND 😂😂😂

[@b3naqua]

@@ArquelCudia_xAMTCx lol depends on how you look at it. Some ppl love fugly lol

[@DebF124]

Gotta bring back pasting html code

[@No1SlapFIGHTFan]

People still have custom app icons. Myself included.

[@b3naqua]

@@DebF124 & accidentally installing like 20 viruses onto your computer

[@sarang_sheth]

The year is 2040. You can now customize your iPhone like it was Winamp.

[@ReSpawn91]

rip winamp

[@michaelchen2718]

hahaha

[@zox101]

I don't want to destroy 69 likes on this comment 🫢🫣🤫

[@codeonexz3813]

What I’ve noticed throughout the years, android users love to brag about features they had years ago, but they don’t mention that they discontinue it, but bring it back up when Apple decides to put it on their devices. They love to brag about they having it first, but they never say anything about doing it better like Apple 😎

[@hassan_codes]

WinAmp was my favourite!!!

[@Gilfordd]

That hiding apps and locking them will end relationships. Im calling it now… 😂

[@TheJerknoid]

The hidden photos section of the photos app already does a little bit of this. I can only imagine how much worse it would get when it comes to apps.

[@marvinrhodesjr]

I had that thought too, but ultimately it always boils down to the person/people. Honest, upright people will still be who they are. This update only makes it easier for people who are already sneaky and dishonest to continue down that path.

[@yoshikinanami7434]

Why is everyone immediately jumping to cheating? This is genuinely a good feature for people living in a really abusive relationship or household.

[@Gilfordd]

@@yoshikinanami7434 yeah that was the second thing I thought about. but that topic isn’t as important and interesting as the first one

[@HulkVanMychen]

Texts have been doing that since the era the pyramids were built! 😶‍🌫

[@David-gs9vw]

The option to select transparent apps would be nice.

[@BryonLetterman]

Everyone always says that Apple waits to do something until it can do it best, but why did it wait till 18th version of iOS to offer something as simple as being able to place icons where you want them?

[@limbeboy7]

If you buy any apple product you're a clown 🤡. They make NOTHING you can't find better anywhere else. Only thing holding them now is walled garden

[@SimonLYW]

@@limbeboy7 You calling Marques a clown?

[@Yellow-channell]

@@limbeboy7PROUD CLOWN

[@Dantastic123]

They wanted to make sure they got it right. And did it better than Android. Hahaha, oh wait, they messed it up. Text blends in.

[@garrettblackard8893]

@@limbeboy7caring what another individual buys is wild

[@lost7123]

I still can’t wrap my mind around the fact, that Apple has some of the coolest features, but at the same time lacks the most basic stuff, that android had for years.

[@sheesh9050]

its a sacrifice i made when i swtiched to iphone this year

[@jclif77]

Apple could learn from Android but it the midst of "differentiating" they coin it the Apple way and sometimes they miss. Then there are times they really miss.

[@ffamilyff]

You mean, had since its inception ? 😅

[@gowthamrajasekar]

One of them is wearing a watch in each wrist😂😂😂

[@mamiya.apricot]

Andrew is the heart of this show.

[@thecapone45]

We got home screen customization before GTA VI 💀

[@somethingsomethingsomethingdar]

It needs the primary and secondary colors. Tinting to just one does not allow you to make it look good.

[@thekinkshamer1177]

Andrew is the only one who has the right opinion, I prefer 100% ugly than 80% good and 20% ugly

[@cim8097]

That ending line made my HomePod mini in the bathroom activate lol!

[@michaelchen2718]

17:50 you have no idea how many times Ive needed this, when its 1am and my parents think Im already asleep so I cant text them

[@CritLoren]

funny how iphone users used to make fun of android homescreens for looking ugly, and now it's all balanced lol

[@diskrisk9145]

Never seen any iPhone user say that.

[@bbcringegaming]

So much bs in what you say, as a long time iphone user it’s one of the future me and my friends wanted.

[@Brad-fo8dz]

@@diskrisk9145 people who have apple products tend to be very cultish

[@georgefloydtv.]

We don't even think about you

[@Jay37_tech]

Salty lol

[@derekprospero]

When did everyone start talking with upward inflections?

[@paulwilson3759]

They been watching too much Neighbours!

[@rue1868]

Don't all of you guys speak like that?

[@paulwilson3759]

@@rue1868 not me, I'm a Brit

[@justahugenerd1278]

Oh god, I can't stop? Help? What's going on?????

[@RevelryPlay]

You can color the app icons and I guess that's fine given almost no controls to tweak. But it also tints the widgets just the same.

[@rogerbravo3783]

I got you what you are saying about the control centre. Honestly once you sort and organise it, it’s a charm. One cool thing is that you can bring the shortcuts with actions on the control centre! That’s a game changer for me. Try it out..

[@iSowelu]

Apple should have implemented an easy ‘long press’ over icon option to reveal a library of icons, similar to emoji menus, so that the user can just quickly select an alternative icon, then tap on home screen to confirm the change. This should have applied to any and all icons - both system and 3rd party. It would’ve be simple, clean and easy process while staying true to Apple’s iOS language and overall aesthetic.

[@lajawi.]

I once scheduled a message using shortcut automations. I just made an automation that sends a specific text to a specific contact at a specific time. You'll have to remember to remove it once the message was sent, though.

[@EggTamago7]

So personally... like 90% of all icon packs I've seen on Android look terrible. Most examples I've seen of tinted icons on Android look terrible. Most harder-core attempts at iPhone customization... I think the icons look terrible. The tinted icons in the keynote demo, to me, also looked terrible. Looking through posts on Reddit, I started to see a few examples where it actually looked decent, but they were in the minority. There's an extremely low chance I'll actually use this particular feature, because... best case, it looks decent. Not amazing or better, just decent. Even so, this is clearly what the people want. People, who generally have zero design sense (not a diss, just gotta be real) want to make their phone more personal, and this will achieve that. While probably also looking terrible. My other beef: Having all icons the exact same colour seriously makes it way harder to quickly differentiate between them. When I'm looking for WhatsApp, I'm not looking for the icon that looks like a chat bubble, I'm looking for that shade of green. All that aside: The dark-mode icons are awesome and I will probably use those.

[@mjjones1045]

Lol, you're an Apple fan boy. Stop perping

[@DONQUIIIXOTE]

That’s cap lmao

[@davidnnamani1715]

@@mjjones1045why yall always hating on 📱 android fanboys always mad at Apple

[@marvinrhodesjr]

If you have the design and/or creative prowess, you can absolutely make this feature worthwhile. I'm excited about the possibilities. Also, the feature will undoubtedly get better and more refined before the public release of the app.

[@jwoolson]

Threw caution into the wind and downloaded the iOS 18 dev beta 1 JUST to try out the customization features and I REALLY appreciate all of them. I can easily organize Control Center to show individual Shortcuts. With a light gray highlight color, I can remove (nearly) all the color from the iPhone and iPad homescreen to finally have a visually coherent UI, in place of the typical color chaos. I found that a neutral highlight color in the icon customization settings just makes my designer heart deeply, deeply happy.

[@user-yv5hj1cd2h]

Have you tried positioning of widgets? Still matrix 4x6 and I wasn't able to put 2x2 widget in columns 2 and 3. Same with widget 2x4 - I wasn't able to put one in rows 2-3 or 4-5. Only 1-2, 3-4 or 5-6. It's a step in right direction but still very limited.

[@AndrewPL5]

it's beta 1...

[@garrettblackard8893]

You can Tapback with stickers too

[@michaelchen2718]

8:50 INCORRECT!!!!!!!! IT WAS THE SAME WAY IN IOS 17.

[@thomasbarrett9888]

Not true. You can press and hold the WiFi logo in 17 straight from control centre.

[@offsideundo]

Oh great, Thanks Marques. My HomePod Mini just perked up and is now so confused.... And I'm already subscribed..

[@Shambley1]

It’s crazy to me that I see people whining about being able to customize the phone. If you don’t like the customization then don’t do it. You still have that option. It’s ALWAYS better to have the option and not use it than want an option and not have it. I’m always going to choose having the choice over not.

[@billwong553]

I get it and understand. Currently, I can’t get my Home Screen tint/color to look good. I gave up.

[@lajawi.]

11:11 If you look closely, there's a split second where you can't see the hidden app, until the FaceID recognizes you, then you see it.

[@markreif1]

the problem with the tint is that you can't make out what the icons(apps) are in folders. they need to allow limited colors within those tints.

[@Nattodayy]

I just search for the app I need and keep nothing on the Home Screen. It feels cleaner not having apps cover up my wallpaper.

[@DatTruckinGuy]

Hopefully in the next updates for iOS 18, there will be even more icon styles. That would greatly improve on customization. Transparent Widgets, too.

[@qcharles1991]

I don’t like the connectivity cluster in the control center either. I feel like each one should be independent

[@aj-1700]

The photos app got a little bit of redesign?! You do not seem you have taken the time to review the new features

[@rest0re871]

They rather complain about things they don’t fully understand yet. Like the redundancy in the control center being fixable in 4 seconds. Or the 5 taps for WiFi being more like 1 long swipe and 2 taps

[@K_Isla]

Small feature, but, I noticed something in photos where if you edit a picture in a particular app, e.g. FaceApp or Brush and you save with the logo, if you try to crop out the logo the photos app places a small portrait near your face rendering it unusable.

[@billahb]

One thing that really pushed me away from the pixel was the theme engine not effecting all of the icons. There was always one that refused to change.....

[@ayushmittal8809]

Give us a option to use the current control centre, not a big fan of the new one

[@jayritchie7284]

I downloaded the beta to try the Home Screen customization and after 5 minutes of playing around I left the apps in their default state. The tinting looked terrible! The comment of having a primary and secondary colours was on the money. I like the changes to control centre especially 2 x 1 widgets. I would appreciate 2 x 1 apps/widgets on the homescreen too.

[@mirza.]

One scenario that I imagine is if I have to use someone else’s phone in an emergency situation, I know for example what the phone app looks like, and I can quickly access it. I know it’s a really rare use case but that could be the difference in those moments.

[@solomongabriel9743]

The photos on the widget also get tinted, which looks really bad.

[@arbetbenjaminkwashi9324]

Apple gives you want you want, customise as you wish, I’m with Andrew. I trust myself to not make an ugly Home Screen

[@mjjones1045]

Since when have Apple given you all what you want?

[@arbetbenjaminkwashi9324]

@@mjjones1045 THIS!!!! this is exactly what I want. Customization, a stable OS and 6yrs of updates without forced obsolescence, yes I’m not that hard to please. If I make it ugly, it’s my phone.

[@yoshikinanami7434]

I haven’t felt this “forced obsolescence” thing since iOS 9 on the iPhone 4S. What are ya’ll doing to your phones? The iPhone 7 on the last version is still pretty snappy. Currently on the 12 pro iOS 18 beta 1 and it still feels snappy. In terms of stability yeah iOS is very hit or miss, no version so far apart from 12 could top iOS 6.

[@EddyGraphic]

The reason theming on iOS looks so terrible is because developers need to support it, same thing happened with dark mode when it was introduced, only Apple apps supported it, it will look good when get all those updates on release day.

[@skulling4893]

9:12 this issue can be fixed with a full page connectivity page (wifi, Bluetooth, etc.)

[@aettic]

My girlfriend has an Android phone, and I have an iPhone with iOS 18 beta. She can already see my emoji tapbacks (including the non-standard ones), and she's also able to already send any emoji as a tapback from her Android phone (and has been able to for a while). I don't know what messaging app she uses, but everything seems to work fine except when she sends stickers as emojis (again, from her Android phone, a feature she already has) they show up as standalone stickers, not attached to a message on my end. She said that's normal, too. (None of that includes the GenMoji thing, but I doubt I'll use that anyway with access to literally all of the emojis unlocked)

[@MrRandom-t3x]

Wow

[@ImThePepper]

I feel like eventually we're going in a widget focused, iconless, direction. I only use widgets on my homescreens, and for the ones I don't have useful widgets for, I have a quick access way to get them. Everything else I get in the organized app drawer on the occasion I might need them. The problem with this theory is how slow the development of the widget ecosystem is happening. We'll see though...

[@nahinrahman7885]

I don't know what David is talking about in 8:45 My wifi button is just where it was - the network bubble he talked about is for cellular, bluetooth and hotspot none of which people keep turning on or off all the time. It does have wifi too, but no ones gonna need to open bubble to access Wifi. Even then, that bubble is housing so many options that was available only going to settings primarily. I do not see any 5 steps here. Also, if you dont want to mess around with the bubble, scroll to the next page and you have al that was in the bubble in a list. It'll probably take slight practice but for the benefit.

[@growviralwithlends6858]

Love this alot particularly

[@daledevernon56]

Instead of having to change each element in the customisation process on iPhone, why doesn't apple just make a themes feature similar to Samsung.

[@bruxi78230]

C'mon. You know how this works. Apple likes to do new features every year. In 2025 it will be complimentary colors. In 2026 it will be icon packs. In one of those years you'll just ask Siri to generate a particular look, and it will do so artistically and you won't be embarrassed to show off your home screen as if you were using an Android.

[@MyDogSteppedOnaBeee]

I don’t know about anyone else, but my AirPods Pro 2. They don’t sound as loud as they did an iOS 17. I even forgot the device and repaired them still sounds the same, but I haven’t tried the beta yet for AirPods Pro. Anyone else having the same issue? The music just doesn’t sound as loud. I have to turn the volume up more to hear it better the music it’s much less louder than iOS 17 🤷‍♂

[@C.SchitzPopinov]

You know what would really make App' customization cool? If, instead of dark mode, and solid colours for the App' icons. An option for semi-transparent-frosted look for that 'sense of hierarchy' effect🤷🏼‍♂️

[@JustNel]

You guys hit all the gripes I’ve had with this beta.. and lack of customization.. this is the first iPhone I’ve own since the 3G.. Hopefully they fix a lot of this stuff but android has been light years ahead with features

[@droidfan17]

I think the thing that confuses me the most is, even though it's a beta and the theme engine will probably get better.... Google didn't implement Material You until a few betas into Android 12 and I feel like it had worked out most of the kinks at the time? It was a while ago so maybe I'm not remembering correctly but it's surprising to see Apple implement it so early and for it to look so rough...

[@Ike_Laja]

2:08 I use an iPhone and I believe I do have a unique Home Screen even without the new update. I mixed in some widgets and shuffled the positioning around and I like it, it’s kinda cool. I also have some UI apps like charging play to spice things up. I use an android too and I always like customizing my stuff to be optimized to me 2:08

[@Coollsmalls4kTechArtist]

I see him getting the iOS 18 beta 1 on his iPhone

[@RichnessReimaginedChris]

A lot of the reason why I switched back to iOS was because of the blue bubble and music but now that that’s going away …. I’m really thinking of returning back to my android cupcake days.

[@MrInFlight]

The customization features were the ones I was most excited about. Mainly the dark icons. Now some of the tinting can make some Home Screens ugly as hell. I've seen some but like he said I don’t have to look at their phone. As long as I like my Home Screen.

[@enzmondo]

People keep forgetting that iMessage is a messaging over IP service. Think WhatsApp and Telegram. At this point, cellular messaging is only incidental. SMS, MMS, and RCS are low in their priority because they’re still low capacity and lacks many of IP messaging features. The difference is just that iMessage is built together with cellular messaging. That allows it to be built into the system itself. It’s not technically their fault RCS can’t support many of IP messaging features and that Android doesn’t have a similar service that’s built into the system together with cellular messaging.

[@filmboxstudios3655]

Can't save the photos from Files they have to fix this official version

[@ErickBonilla01]

ANARCHY entered the walled garden.

[@brianwoodcox9878]

I want light mode icons but dark mode widgets, why can’t I just be happy???

[@petilee1]

Why they don’t using true tone coloring inside the iphone? Imagine a wallpaper like a sun and sky with green grass and icons on the green would feed in green tone and icons on sky gotten blue and yellow tones

[@Pabliwi]

how the hell they don't add an easier way to summon control center.

[@michaelchen2718]

7:43 LMAOOOO SO TRUE

[@michaelchen2718]

14:12 ah yes, the messages war goes on.

[@lvseka]

Paginated… Marques explains… Oh… (I can relate)

[@ronlebron4876]

If Google could allow the apps beyond the home screen change boom that would be great

[@michaelchen2718]

2:33 Rick Owen strongly disagrees.

[@brianmartinez5091]

"The...Page-ination" 😂🤣

[@jpmvids]

All I want out of Apple is a volume slider on the lock screen.

[@Change-1820]

I don't feel so old now because I use the word pagination all the time. 😂

[@ak_hoops]

I've had a clear Home Screen for years Andrew. Of course there are more apps on other pages but yea.

[@zebonautsmith1541]

iPhone needs a shortcut to go directly to the app library; especially if you want to access the hidden folder.

[@michaelchen2718]

4:13 you can't handle two colors!

[@michaelchen2718]

14:52 not an unfair point.

[@J3nLai]

may I know wads Andrew's keyboard channel?

[@ItsJustMeStevie]

Apple, give me the ability to desaturate the icons to look like the 70s

[@brianfontenot8264]

apple needs to give a theme store where they can buy different icon packs, wallpapers and themes. make some free and some paid. Depending on the preference.

[@Sean_notConnery]

Material you >>>>

[@yoshikinanami7434]

If Apple released an iOS 6 theme pack and even if it was paid, I’d buy it. I love iOS 6 so much.

[@diskrisk9145]

So a few people have horrible taste in colour... but it's somehow Apple's fault and Apple's the one being made fun of? I've seen millions of disgusting Android homescreens and nobody has given Google any hate for that.

[@HackinTec]

Google optimised the material u to its limit but apple just wrote a code to color all the icons, tthe comfortablity matters

[@drb5003]

You can never win... Damn if you do, Damn if you don't...🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@jus2befrank]

I didn’t even know you could get to wifi settings from control center

[@michaelchen2718]

13:20 I AGREE WITH ELLIS 100%%%%%

[@shankars195]

At least they did this. Couple of years back the biggest change that was assumed is to change the icons shapes in iPhone 😂. Android had built a big feature list which iPhone can pick up and implement for next few years. Android getting saturated? They need to now generate more features so that apple can use it 10 years down the line.

[@TheMainCal]

It won’t be lawnmower 2.0 but it really should be

[@nahinrahman7885]

Yall my siri got activated

[@flottenheimer]

Just give us the ability to change the icons, Apple.

[@paulwilson3759]

Love the video boys, think I'll give iOS a miss though. Thanks anyway 😮

[@thundersandhu]

its first time everyone felt like completely wrong, first used to cry that apple dont allow us and now criticising that it can make people’s phone horrible (which should never be concern) and even MKBHD saying same is sad. not a valid point at all. only andrew is right.

[@TheMainCal]

Now now making apps disappear due to a bug is a feature 😂

[@johnguillen68]

It'll be great if Apple allows Launcher apps so that you can really customize your home and lock screen. Just changing the colors of your icons is not exciting at all. I think it's so boring. I think I'll keep using Shortcuts to completely change my icons. Nothing is exciting to me about the new iOS 18. Maybe the calculator features and a different look on the Calendar but still the same UI. I thought we were going to see a whole new revamped UI. You can't even change the color of the messaging bubbles or the keyboard and the same ugly icons.

[@TheRealMafoo]

I live in Thailand, and was telling people how the green text should just go away, and they all disagreed. Here, most phone services charge you for sending SMS messages, and they need to know when it will be free to reply, or they will get charged. That said, 99% of people here use line anyway, so it doesn't matter much.

[@shahriartanvir977]

You can now move your apps to wherever you want. WOW! What an invention. Why did no one think of that before...? oh, nvm..

[@milpatel83]

This discussion is a bit dumb as the icon colour changes aren’t available for all Android skins/OS (its all the same), only some. The funny thing is, once Apple actually release this feature, more iOS users will have this ability than Android users - now thats funny.

[@jakesiu7773]

Android with Window launcher is the best!

[@LordMizukage_]

This really sounded like no matter what people are never satisfied, why would you care if that stranger customized his phone and looks ugly? That just seems like a weird thing to make a negative

[@juananalista]

I love Android, and i use both iOS and Android daily. I just think it is unfair when people expect apple to basically slow down the innovation in the form of features to their applications, like iMessage which is one of their biggest products, just to cater to people who choose to use Android. They already are implementing RCS which will make the experience a lot better for both users, now they want them to just not add anything else because it may hurt the other OS user feelings.

[@papa_NCF]

Watch the horrible tint customizations become ironically cool to have

[@Coollsmalls4kTechArtist]

I want to see it