You can just say it was to make Gen 2’s weakest more interesting
@danviferahr14262 ай бұрын
@@MoxieBoosted i actually think ledian is worse though
@danviferahr14262 ай бұрын
Maybe not, but i just dont like ledian
@yotambraunshtein97862 ай бұрын
Ahhh shi
@falsnamae35112 ай бұрын
Choice unown could be used as a revenge counter, it's hidden power strength isn't the absolute worst. It at least in theory has something it could do: Psychic STAB Choice Hidden Power to take down a bulky Gengar or something. Ledian can't even do that.
@danviferahr14262 ай бұрын
"its vivillon" was funny, cuz a pokemon with quiver dance, sleep powder and hurricane with buffed accuracy wont EVER be the absolute worst
@Ilikecheese-bx2ds2 ай бұрын
I know
@Ilikecheese-bx2ds2 ай бұрын
I fucking love vivilon
@danviferahr14262 ай бұрын
@Ilikecheese-bx2ds it is my favorite pokemon, so ill defend it anyway i can
@sinnohperson88132 ай бұрын
It got top 6 last week , at baltimore
@fredrice86502 ай бұрын
Also even with spore Parasect is worse than Beedrill. Choice scarf, fell stinger and U-turn could do more than a 30 speed spore user with the worst typing and 60-80 defenses.
@berg_dawg2 ай бұрын
Grapploct was so bad that it was forgotten on the tier list...
@SteamPunkVGC2 ай бұрын
2:22 Volbeat actually got top 16 in Baltimore regional. Insane stuff.
@nicolasbroaddus8819Ай бұрын
That being its best placement ever kinda proves how shit it is even as a support mon with rare moves. At least Sunflora carries in Emerald Kaizo early game.
@LAIDDN24Ай бұрын
@@nicolasbroaddus8819 sunflora never reach it though illumise is just better
@matthewpopow66472 ай бұрын
"I just don't see what Kricekune does..." I do... it goes DELELELEWOOOOOOP!
@@Brandon_Hardie they took the only win we had with mega.
@asierx70472 ай бұрын
Well at least the mega is good. Audino didn't even get that luxury.
@braindeavers25812 ай бұрын
My precious Pyukumuku 😔
@JanelBurgan2 ай бұрын
Moxie:what do you think the worst gen 5 pokemon is? Patterz brain:I heard about landorus, but I can't remember what, patterz:landorus
@pokeperson10002 ай бұрын
-says he mistook Alluring Voice for a different move. -describes the effect of Echoed Voice. -says the move he described was Disarming Voice. Thumbs up.
@JesseNightingale2 ай бұрын
Chattot being faster than the Gods of Space and time even by a single point is fucking hilarious lol
@alexdehatter21512 ай бұрын
Ledian is one of the most contradictory Pokémon I’ve ever seen. Stats, moves, ability, everything. It’s like they just threw darts randomly when making it.
@ghost_curse2 ай бұрын
I didn't realize Pyukumuku was the slowest goddamn thing in existence, 5 base speed?????
@ltfguitar2 ай бұрын
I would like to add that Infernape is the strongest eligible Pokémon if you do a fire type only nuzlocke of Pokémon Diamond/Pearl
@TheOneAverageJoe2 ай бұрын
isn't your only other option rapidash?
@ltfguitar2 ай бұрын
@@TheOneAverageJoe Yes :-)
@asierx70472 ай бұрын
"It's better than the horse" (It also has one of the best early game options with how fast it learns mach punch so it is decent by itself)
@calebthompson6842 ай бұрын
I think a fun "then we fight" video would be if you could get Moxie Boosted's opinion on a bunch of improvements to bad mons and then reallocate the stats to see if the bad pokemon could become good with those changes
@mindwarp422 ай бұрын
Re: Ledian: considering how many tokusatsu influences are in Pokemon, I honestly think that Ledian was inspired by Tackle from Kamen Rider Stronger, aka Miss Not Officially a Kamen Rider Thanks to When She Was Created (when modern era movies have even recognized that she is really a Rider and has always been without retconning her to make her officially one...). The Showa era tokusatsu bias might have crept in when Ledian was created, on top of Ledian being an early game Bug-type like Beedrill.
@Just0wnedEsport2 ай бұрын
Giving Ledian iron fist has to be the sickest joke ever in gaming history
@deadriccow2 ай бұрын
Ya you made me aware of his channel and I’ve been addicted to his main and 2nd channel videos since
@JesseNightingale2 ай бұрын
20:42 no that move never misses what you're thinking of is Echoed Voice lol
@Str0be0wl2 ай бұрын
...I did use Volbeat on my first team. I used to run tail glow + baton pass with prankster. No it wasn't amazing but it was my first dive into competitive and I never forgot him.
@A_Swarm_of_Koalas2 ай бұрын
I'd like to point out Ledian's attack stat of 35 is especially funny when you remember it's two STABs, bug and flying, were physical in gen 2. Not that it matters because it doesn't learn a single bug or flying type attack in that generation (excluding hidden power, if you're crazy enough to breed a damn ledian for STAB). Literally all normal attacks by levelup. Can't believe I tried to beat gold as a kid with ledian and jumpluff in my party. No wonder my feraligatr looked busted by comparison, half my team couldn't do damage lol.
@mattengman84892 ай бұрын
Ledian's Iron Fist Ability would have been much better in Gen 3 before physical/special split when all elemental punches were special. Still not great, but not as bad...
@SoftwareLearningify2 ай бұрын
2:23 “Has anyone used volbeat” Yknow what honestly maybe, it has prankster tail wind, and tail glow baton pass, it’s definitely not great, but it can cook, one problem is murkrow cuz it gets taunt and haze so it gets rid of volbeat’s tail glow but Tera dark solves that I guess
@BenjaminCarrillo-sj9wb2 ай бұрын
13:49 MandJTV won’t like this
@CatsLilaSalem2 ай бұрын
As a kid i thought Onix looked very cool, so i had a team with 6 of them. I thought i was doing something wrong because it was such a struggle to battle with that team. Also i did not understand mechanics like typings at all. The first thing that made me realize i should stop using Onix was that the damage was so bad, and the second thing was that most hing i catched seemed to have way more hp. You would expect an giant like Onix to outdo the hp part but no
@Kowery1052 ай бұрын
I feel like some Pokemon need to be weaker Like for example Beedrill is a pre gym 1 Pokemon , you can get it at level 10 It can't be too good because then why would you change your team is the one you have is stronght enought?
@TheAuron322 ай бұрын
Beedrill and Butterfree are meant to early game power houses AND teach you about evolution. that said, Butterfree is vastly overpowered since it learns sleep power and psychic moves which are insane in gen 1, then in gen 3 it got Compound Eyes, with sleep powder... it can learn Thief too. Butterfree is insanely good for its utility for the entire game, sure Mega-Beedril was a thing but it went away and made it a powerful glass cannon but it dies so easily.
@Scottynsb7652 ай бұрын
Why is the cat on the white board Rizzing me up?!
@jaydog772 ай бұрын
Patterrz your thinking echoed voice the normal 40bp move that doubles each time used, disarming voice is fairy and never misses
@roberthewittt26332 ай бұрын
26:46 Spidops is in my top 10 favorite pokemon, and it hurts my feelings that he is so bad and that I'm the only one that likes him.
@Terradragoon6 күн бұрын
I think forecast should buff castform depending on the weather (double 2 stats depending on weather) so its underwhelming but even stat spread could be more understandable.
@Bergzbot2 ай бұрын
I tried so incredibly hard to like Spidops. Tarountula is pretty cute, and my first time playing through SV, I was playing with my girlfriend, who takes her time exploring areas the moment we unlock them. We spent so long on route 1 that I actually found a shiny Tarountula by pure chance before we ever made it to the school. But no matter how hard I tried, I just could get Spidops to feel like he was worth having on the team
@FuryMcpurey2 ай бұрын
Vivillon is actually pronounced "Vivy-on" because it's a combination of "vivid" and "papillon," the French word for "butterfly". Because Kalos is based off France.
@Crxsseyed12 ай бұрын
And also a double l is usually said like y in French
@FuryMcpurey2 ай бұрын
@@Crxsseyed1 Precisely
@andsailedcalmlyon2 ай бұрын
Yeah, but he's British. You should hear how they pronounce "guillotine".
@supernicedude29722 ай бұрын
"I like him more so he wins" damn, that fits Goku fans to a T.
@lordsceptile61812 ай бұрын
Vivillon is actually quite a good mon lmao. In the Baltimore Regionals 2024 that just happened, there were two people using Vivillon in the top 32 of the tournament. Both ran the same set. Hurricane, Sleep Powder, Rage Powder, and Protect, Holding the Focus sash with the compound eyes ability. Compound eyes actually makes Hurricane and Sleep Powder 91% accurate and very useful as an attack option, and a viable sleeper. Redirection is also always good so it can make use of. Another detail is that rain was the most used team, so often your opponent would make hurricane better. Vivillon was used as an alternative to Amoongus that could be used against Rillaboom and Amoongus. It was also good against the common Mausape teams.
@LoveFreak18Ай бұрын
9:29 you could say the same about dudunsparce, make it longer and add a segment. About as lazy as voltorb being a ball with eyes. It would be more fun if voltorb was a ghost type, a poke ball possessed by the spirit of a dead child who wanted to be a trainer.
@ShenaniganBros12 ай бұрын
2:17 both are pretty good in randbats because of the level scaling
@SoftwareLearningify2 ай бұрын
in vgc i think volbeat isnt actually garbage either, it gets prankster tailwind, tail glow and baton pass, so you can just pass your tail glow to something like gholdengo and set up tailwind, there are some huge problems like murkrow having haze and taunt, and fake out just instantly prevents volbeat from contributing anything but its not straight up trash. cant say the same for sunflora though
@joshuafrazier39042 ай бұрын
To be fair Patterz Arcanine is competitively viable so you are genuinely chilling.
@Wesker1984Ай бұрын
My favourite is Magearna (was Dragonite until gen 4 and then Garchomp between gen 4 and 6), fell in love immediately. Imagine my joy when I found out just how good Magearna really is lol.
@prasathgj2 ай бұрын
Wow damn, after so so so many years...I'm learning ur name for Daniel! Why the hell did I settle with Patterz😂😂😂
@adamsager222 ай бұрын
Hey Daniel! I adore the content!!! I believe Dawko liked Spidops (at least during his playthrough of Pokémon Scarlet/Violet). Anyways, Keep up the amazing work and Have a great day!!!
@downbeatdialga13412 ай бұрын
Bring back Mega Beedrill. I loved using Fell Stinger with it, getting +3 Attack, and then sweeping a whole team with Poison Jab 😋
@jacobrocket17342 ай бұрын
chatter is used in gen 4 as well as gen 5, though chatter is mainly used for rng manipulation, more specifically pid frame advancing and is used for shiny hunting. also back in gen 4 and 5 how loud you made chatter actually influenced the damage it dealt
@pleasebevividАй бұрын
I will say for Gen 5, Swanna is a solid mixed attacker. Im surprised Maractus wasnt mentioned
@GiuseppeGaetanoSabatelli2 ай бұрын
You can't really knock on Bug types though. Beedrill (and Kricketune) evolve at level 10. 395 BST is kinda nutty at level 10. You don't get your mid evolution starter until level 16 and they have about 400 BST... And you have to sit on them until level 36. You don't even evolve route 1 Pokémon like Rattata or Pidgey until level 18/20. Every Mt. Moon, Nugget Bridge, northern cerulean, and gym trainer are sub-20. Beedrill is strong through a quarter of the game. It's an early game Pokémon.
@lucaspritchard85752 ай бұрын
funny thing carbink was my pokerouge mono rock goat it is weirdly bulky and the rouge element of salt cure is bonkers
@nickd63032 ай бұрын
The ledian,rabrasca, and orbeatle lines are the only bug types with access to both light screen and reflect
@tonberry26702 ай бұрын
I used Volbeat in the lower tiers back in Gen 5. Prankster Tail Glow and Baton pass ftw
@sethlast90242 ай бұрын
HE HAS NO SWAG?!?! AND NO PAPER?!?!?!
@jaymehaswow2 ай бұрын
Eelektross, especially shiny one, is my favorite. It was always on my team but never the best of squad 😢
@nabi77012 ай бұрын
Vivillon is actually preety solid. It has a great movepool and a decent ability that elevates that movepool. Compound eyes combined with Sleep powder and stab hurricane goes kind of crazy. If it can setup with quiver dance it also has decent sweeping potential with Hurricane since its offensive stats are decent Its certainly not the best but its actually far more useable than a decent amount of Gen 6 pokemon. Still in the bottom half though, its not average or above average.
@Chipitorc2 ай бұрын
11:54 wynaut is a preevo and wobbufet was one of the strongest pokemons with the most hp, shadow tag, Encore, Recover, Mirror coat and counter... Yeah the worst one. It was so bad that it was the first non-legendary mon being banned
@ultimatex13342 ай бұрын
I do actually love Spidops. It isn't my favorite Gen 9 Pokemon or favorite Bug type, but it definitely sits on my top 10 for both.
@derelictgasstation3 күн бұрын
I thought echoed voice was the fairy move that did more damage per use, you know like an echo
@Jamtland_mapping2 ай бұрын
Yoo, good video
@LoreleiVieshvelle2 ай бұрын
Woah Spidops is a pokemon I take EVERY chance I see it in Rad Red. Counter And sticky webs U turn is nice
@ryanheywood31652 ай бұрын
Lunatone will never be bad to me, ever since i swept a draft battle with it
@Busy_Bee6192 ай бұрын
As the guy who used solo Beedrill in Pokémon Infinite Fusions….yea Beedrill isn’t the greatest sadly :( still love em tho
@F14thunderhawk2 ай бұрын
although really its unfair to lump Beedrill into the worst of gen 1 set. Ditto itself is the worst pokemon in gen 1, redeemed not by impostor but by its necessity in breeding. the actual worst Gen 1 is probably Seaking, as the most love it has ever gotten is Swift Swim in gen 3, and megahorn in the same gen, allowing it to peak in NU. even Mega Beedrill earns a proper UU in gen 6 with its mega, as almost every other ZU of Gen 1 has spiked to UU at some point at worst or gotten alternatives. Seaking is just the worst fully evolved watertype of gen 1, and it has no campaign or pvp utility in exception able to give it hope unlike Luvdisk one of the worst fully evolved pokemon ever. Seaking has never received a moveset rework to bring it upto nominal standards either.
@jolteon3452 ай бұрын
The core problem with Mega evolutions is that they didn’t just use it to help buff cool and/or understatted Pokemon. Because meta Pokemon also got megas and it was one per battle, the ones like Beedrill and Audino got left behind. Then you add in the precedent that megas don’t get an additional evolution, until it’s broken, stuff like Absol is left in mediocrity.
@oceanthegachaalphadragon35482 ай бұрын
Shiny spidos was my first shiny i caught as a terrolanuchla
@conquestalpha2 ай бұрын
ledian always reminded me of a power ranger so I could see them getting a new evolution to becoome fighting flying
@stevenreckling2032 ай бұрын
Kricketune is better than spidops. You can run a technician fell stinger set with trailblaze to increase speed. Sticky webs and leech life are good options as well. I've seen it sweep but it's definitely niche.
@witchsdoctors50792 ай бұрын
I am surprised that Unown wasn't the worst of it generation
@larslionheart2 ай бұрын
The worst part is I was so excited about using Tarountula. Look at how they've massacred my boy. 😢
@PcketEditionMC2 ай бұрын
Dylan just destroyed Shady with a volbeat
@jaxpool1552 ай бұрын
i used sunflora in silver once and she beat clair all on her own, so i have a soft spot for the sweet sunflower friend
@insomniacnerd55922 ай бұрын
I really don’t like Urshifu because it’s strong in a ‘I take away most of your counterplay’ type of way.
@Seafoam22 ай бұрын
I feel so very lucky because my favorite is Gastrodon followed by ogerpon.
@BongBarlow2 ай бұрын
Spidops reminds me of Bamzooki on CBBC back in 2010😂 it's so bad even kids could make it
@slipknot95maggot2 ай бұрын
Did homeboi just imply an evolution wouldn't help castform, as gyarados looms over his back with red eyes.....?
@polocatfan2 ай бұрын
nah karen was right. people often win worlds with "bad" Pokémon like Pachirisu.
@Mellohi_witherАй бұрын
Volbeat is actually semi-viable right now
@tobiasgund80482 ай бұрын
No, Pat, Disarming Voice is the never missing 40 BP fairy type move, do you mean Echoed Voice?
@Sam246002 ай бұрын
20:38 lmao its echoed voice, don't get your voices mixed up
@juanc.metrocroix00002 ай бұрын
I love Spidops, its my favourite regional bug and you can't do anything about it :"(
@tobiasgund80482 ай бұрын
Vivillon is better than a lot of gen 6 Pokemon, I think Pyroar is worse, Carbink, probably Dedenne, possibly Malamar.
@morokeivokuun102 ай бұрын
How can you ask if anybody has ever used Volbeat when YOU reacted to flygons buglocke
@thefreak6392 ай бұрын
Meractus was the 1st shiny I crit and lost lol
@emeraldsky12892 ай бұрын
So much pain since Ledian is one of my favorite pokemon for some reason
@Jayash3572 ай бұрын
Imagine if mach punch was flying type🤣
@SpaceRobotPerson2 ай бұрын
I failed a shiny gligar in platinum :(
@FuryMcpurey2 ай бұрын
I'm sorry to hear that, man, I know how it feels to fail a Shiny 😔
@SpaceRobotPerson2 ай бұрын
Yeah but older games shiny odds
@darkyami20832 ай бұрын
Imagine being so bad that you get forgot to be put on the overall bad tier list. Forgot about Grapploct.
@Prof_Marshtomp2 ай бұрын
They banned Chatter in vs play because of people just saying "F*** You" for Chattot to repeat
@KingGambit34_2 ай бұрын
I believe z-moves and mega evolution are the best gimmicks in Pokemon (and yes I am a little bias because ultra moon is my favorite Pokemon game)
@redhead_bebs2 ай бұрын
2:18 Has anyone ever used Volbeat? Wow... This aged worse than milk because Alex Imbufe got to 14th with it YESTERDAY at Baltimore Regionals. 😅
@trinidaddy31782 ай бұрын
4:51 whys platinum gotta be in the trash😢
@NekoCutieSashaАй бұрын
Picking swanna when watchog is a thing makes me sad XD
@FLLax112 ай бұрын
Didn't Volbeat make Day 2 at Baltimore? Edit: Yes, Top 15 at Baltimore
@iyashikage94212 ай бұрын
I love Spidops,,, just goofy little guys
@nicolasbroaddus8819Ай бұрын
Ok you and moxie liking how spidops looks are your worst takes ever. Spidops looks like a knockoff digimon and completely abandons the cool parts of its pre evolution design.
@phoenixwright7842 ай бұрын
I'm surprised Lumineon wasn't chosen as the weakest gen 4 'mon and can only assume that it was because he forgot it existed. Krickeune has gotta be better than Lumineon
@Katchelina2 ай бұрын
'Has anyone actually used the chatter function...' Yes, though it was still a bit distorted sounding. Also... Gen five Pokemon are loved? I like less than ten of the Gen five pokemon. I would argue Gen 6 had a higher percentage of successfully great Pokemon even if the rest of x and y was mediocre.
@AnnaAmber62 ай бұрын
So Ledian needs a 3rd stage evo and a then Mega.
@LoveFreak18Ай бұрын
25:40 wrap 2.0
@BoxCheese2 ай бұрын
NOT MY BOY BEEDRILL
@tonberry26702 ай бұрын
Arcanine would be fine in vgc if incineroar didn't exist
@Enok-lx9iz2 ай бұрын
Day 53 of asking Patterrz to watch the lore of Danganronpa
@Kokosyl2 ай бұрын
Dawg i love Spidops...
@MewHQ_says_hi2 ай бұрын
mega Beedrill is good because of adaptability
@NolanKernaghan2 ай бұрын
I love spidops a lot
@Arcaeze2 ай бұрын
1:24 YES YOURE RIGHT ARCANINE IS THE BEST POKÉMON AND THE GOODEST BOI
@kenjamincooks2 ай бұрын
I had to shut it off after pyukumuku slander…
@RunieDayeVT2 ай бұрын
Castform with a Attack that can change its form, like its very own Protian :p