New Advanced Clutch Technology - UniClutch Twin Plate - Motive Tech

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@WolfmanDude
@WolfmanDude Жыл бұрын
This is exactly the kind of concept we need in this day and age: A unified and modular system that the end user can install and service. Not just for clutches or car parts, but for everything!
@megahurts2
@megahurts2 11 ай бұрын
I need to find a long term review of this clutch. This sounds super legit.
@JustinBone
@JustinBone 5 ай бұрын
That's what I'm waiting for too. I'd like to know how the poly dampener, spline adapter, and of course disc material itself all hold up over time with regular spirited street use.
@fafablur3444
@fafablur3444 Ай бұрын
For starters I opted for the blue uniclutch which is rated for 900nm, my car is pushing around 600nm with my current tune. Installed uniclutch in my Honda accord cl9 kseries roughly 3 months ago, drove fine during break in period, started having issues after running it on the dyno. Getting in to a gear was a struggle once car is running, it was also crunching when I put it on reverse gear. No issues putting it into gears when car is off which indicates clutch isn’t disengaging at all. Pulled out my transmission the other day to see that the adapter plate that attaches the whole kit to the flywheel has snapped making it spin unevenly and started shaving the inner casing of my gearbox which caused it to crack and leak gearbox fluid. So now im not just looking for a new clutch, I’m also on the look for another gearbox casing
@Beakz_
@Beakz_ Жыл бұрын
I love the concept and implementation of that extended damping range on the sprung section! Time will tell how well their intermediate/adapter plate solution for mounting holds up over time, theoretically its sound but harmonics are a ficle thing when it comes to mounting and regidity. Might have to consider this for my track car if I find my current clutch isn't holding up.
@burn4005
@burn4005 Жыл бұрын
I'm hugely skeptical of that adapter ring holding up to 2000nm of abuse but I'm sure I'll be proven wrong and their engineers know what they're doing. cool product
@dravindarkcloudable
@dravindarkcloudable Жыл бұрын
I had the same thought. Then i just happen to go look at the fly wheel on my 2jz and yeah. Got 1,010hp and 500+lbs and what 6 tiny bolts and 3 dowel pins. Yeah, i actually think if that ring is made of high grade steel and it ia actually inside the perimeter of the bolts and is held by high grade hardware as long as there is no play just might be strong enough.
@ferrumignis
@ferrumignis Жыл бұрын
Also dubious about concentricity. The ring appears to be doweled to the flywheel but not to the clutch itself.
@blow0me
@blow0me Жыл бұрын
@@dravindarkcloudable I'm sure if you wanted, it'd be pretty easy to bolt it to a flat flywheel too ? It's a novel idea overall. I like their multiplate design, and how they also still offer organics discs with well sprung hubs. If of course it ever appears for sale for needed fitments.
@joeyallcock1011
@joeyallcock1011 Жыл бұрын
@@dravindarkcloudable my thought is eurathane once heated to said temp of what it is rated? will become soft plyable & may reshape itself on those damper/pinch points feel unsure of long term effect from hot engine & trans heat along with its own heat from friction disc? Thoughts or answers on this please as im drivin like miss daisy so not to slip my worn out clutch ( high engagement all in first 10-15mm of pushing pedal) so believe i may well be needing a new clutch asap for my 2005 1st gen 2.4L PT CRUISER☆JoeDog+k9Buddie☆2door~PT~van☆
@Hitman-ds1ei
@Hitman-ds1ei Жыл бұрын
What as opposed to a thin metal flexplate bolted to a convertor ?
@RGHTBrainDesignDrive
@RGHTBrainDesignDrive Жыл бұрын
These guys were awesome to see at SEMA and worked off the ORC 559 style wire EDM center section to quick-swap for a given application. Really cool innovation with the twin-spring array and the superb damping design for smoothness. They'll be having my business after the SPEC Twin Disc is broken in, and a custom 8.5" w/ T56 Magnum is fitted for a Rotary 13B application from these boys.
@TheOystei
@TheOystei Жыл бұрын
Will be cool to see how this works out in practice. High power streetable clutches have really come a long way the last decade or two.
@crazymasina8524
@crazymasina8524 2 ай бұрын
One of the best products I've seen in a long time. I hope your products do well. I saw a video and i really how the buyers take their time proudly setting everything up. It's been awhile since I've seen something this innovative.
@Smokkedandslammed
@Smokkedandslammed Жыл бұрын
Dude! The change in YOU from the last clutch video is awesome! Keep it up Big Dawg 💪🏼
@evil_rotary7
@evil_rotary7 Жыл бұрын
I love the way they designed and presented the products😺 It's so clear for our consumers to see, and they've made it incredibly easy to install and use. The dampening features are amazing, I would love to experience a car with this clutch installed. The rattling noise from my current twin-plate clutch can become a bit annoying over time.
@newguyoz
@newguyoz Жыл бұрын
Ive driven a car with this in it. its amazing. I have a mantic twin plate in my car (600hp) and its soooo much nicer to drive than the ORC clutch that came out of it.....
@blow0me
@blow0me Жыл бұрын
@@newguyoz it isn't a mantic clutch ?
@DStead2239
@DStead2239 Жыл бұрын
Looks like a bloody brilliant idea, the company behind it is my only personal concern but that's neither here nor there.. My experience with an "experimental" clutch built and fitted by them didn't end well but that was 5-6 years ago, alot can change in that time and by the looks of it, it has.. I think I'll wait for feedback before dipping my toes in this time instead of being the one toffer feedback
@babarnett1987
@babarnett1987 Жыл бұрын
funny you say that, i commented on one of their instagram posts asking who the company above them was and they didnt answer haha
@DStead2239
@DStead2239 Жыл бұрын
@@babarnett1987 Yeah, plausible deniability lol. My brother inlaw was a sales rep for clutch industries so I got a free mantic twin plate they'd made and fitted for free that was claimed to be easily daily driveable, had no chatter and would handle high torque loads, I was supposed to give feedback on the clutch as a guinea pig in return.. I had a twin plate previously but it was a pull-to-push type conversion and theirs was a direct fit pull type clutch kit for EVO 4-9.. First off, when picking car up it wouldn't start (plugs fouled, run in tune and them moving in/out of shop) and then the speedo didn't work as they didn't reconnect it and the wheel nuts were left loose🤦‍♂️.. But that was the workshop they had do the work, not them. The clutch was good in that it had a light pedal and easy take up, no judders but still rattled just not as bad as normal twin plate. It was a fresh 2.4L bored and stroked on run in tune and handled it fine so hopes were high, then when full tuning it started slipping at 380wkw at all four, so was detuned to 360wkw and left there (dyno run is on my channel). Then, doing a 3rd gear pull BANG! clang clang ding ding dadingg... Holes in the bellhousing. Tear it down, pressure plate broke where spacers and allen keys are and they exited through gearbox bellhousing. Pull clutch assembly off and there were witness marks on the ARP flywheel bolts where centre sprung springs had been hitting and would obviously hit more with wear as the friction material was the only thing keeping the tolerance although also likely what reduced it's bite on the flywheel.. All in all, never again lol
@Dr_Xyzt
@Dr_Xyzt 4 ай бұрын
Whoah! This is awesome! It provides a lot more certainty in what you're installing. I imagine they'll eventually offer solid hub parts if they don't do it already.
@mr34
@mr34 Жыл бұрын
Do they have options for push vs pull type clutches?
@weduhpeople8504
@weduhpeople8504 Жыл бұрын
How would this compare to another Aussie clutch XClutch? I have their twin organic disc clutch and lightened flywheel for my Honda Type R Fk8? Pedal is almost oem feel and rated to 900 ft lbs. it’s not sprung but engages very smoothly. It does jingle when the clutch pedal is pressed down but that just may be a part of what twin disc clutches.
@anetworkservice
@anetworkservice Жыл бұрын
Very cool! I’ve had the aftermarket dual disk clutches in my car and was not happy with it at all. It did have the rattle and pedal feel was bad. It also had a lot of chatter. This was in my 70 BBC Chevelle.
@Smokkedandslammed
@Smokkedandslammed Жыл бұрын
When I put a SPEC billet FW/Twin disc on my 2015 Mustang EcoBoost it was SO noisy at stop lights. It had a DMFW from factory, so thanks for the explanation! I thought it was about to blow up every time I drove it hahaha
@jubthreesixnine688
@jubthreesixnine688 Жыл бұрын
Already on the shelf at lots of Repco's around Australia, mechanics can access these parts too in select supply systems.
@scottm6130
@scottm6130 Жыл бұрын
Looks like a great piece of kit. I'm curious as to which car it's going in though. I'd have thought your R32 would be the obvious choice to see if it really does help alleviate or eliminate the noise, but I'd imagine you'd realistically want the race spec one for that.
@lukek624
@lukek624 Жыл бұрын
Hawko - The Troy McClure snippet is epic and great video
@masterdinosawr
@masterdinosawr Жыл бұрын
Andrew is an amazing teacher.
@Jus4fun456
@Jus4fun456 Жыл бұрын
Got me all excited for my getrag. Unfortunately, it is not available. I assume this is due to the push/pull conversions they require. Hopefully, something in the near future for us loud getrag owners.
@chriskeddo5395
@chriskeddo5395 Жыл бұрын
You guys are the best !!!
@Wind_slash0
@Wind_slash0 Жыл бұрын
Definitely the next item to upgrade after the valve springs on my gr corolla
@DarkShadow7920
@DarkShadow7920 4 ай бұрын
They are going to be a game changer for engine swaps and gearbox swaps, just shim it and change the spline to your desired config.
@JAM4382
@JAM4382 Жыл бұрын
I wonder how well those urethane pieces will hold up. That material generally doesn’t withstand high heat. In normal driving they would probably be fine but for racing applications it seems like they would deteriorate pretty quickly.
@Danger_mouse
@Danger_mouse Жыл бұрын
4:05 Bzzzzt - Incorrect, many dual mass flywheels actually can be milled, rather than machined by a lathe. Several workshops I've worked in on the Sunny Coast here use Maroochy Cylinder Heads to do this and my own personal Subaru Outback was done over 150k ago by them 👍
@MotiveVideo
@MotiveVideo Жыл бұрын
So what you’re saying is they can’t be machined
@Danger_mouse
@Danger_mouse Жыл бұрын
@@MotiveVideo depends on the semantics of 'machined', a cylinder head mill is a machine just like a brake lathe is a machine. It's more to do with the skill of shop you take it to. My point is that you don't always have to throw away a dual mass flywheel.
@garyhaywood6013
@garyhaywood6013 4 ай бұрын
I've just booked in to have one of your clutches in my mk4 focus st
@Nismology33
@Nismology33 Жыл бұрын
Nice!! I'm going to contact them 😊. Hopefully we can get 1 to Japan. Nice vid
@Forde40
@Forde40 Жыл бұрын
I can't wait to see/hear this in a Getrag, mine makes a bunch of noise when the pedal is released but not in gear. Been told it's normal but super ready to get rid of the sound!
@burn4005
@burn4005 Жыл бұрын
Only way you are getting rid of it is a dual mass flywheel. Or increase idle to 1000+rpm.
@blow0me
@blow0me Жыл бұрын
if your foot is not on the clutch pedal, the clutch cannot make any noise, it's all clamped up. Something else is making your noise
@enesfazlic6017
@enesfazlic6017 Жыл бұрын
Damn what a design. I love this. Cant wait to start installing them.
@peekaboo4390
@peekaboo4390 Жыл бұрын
Just when I am about to order a new clutch this video pops up in my feed. Audi A4 3.0 quattro available ?
@DumHed
@DumHed Жыл бұрын
Interesting application @ 6:52 - installing the clutch on an automatic transmission :P
@Lairex_Rai
@Lairex_Rai Жыл бұрын
Just looked this up and damn I really want to get one maybe next year, thses are very adorable right now
@uniclutch
@uniclutch 6 ай бұрын
If you haven't purchased a uniClutch yet, we have an exciting announcement coming on the 22nd....
@stevesloan6775
@stevesloan6775 Жыл бұрын
Sounds awesome! Do they make a ford 1600 kent size clutch? Nothing beats a nice clutch in a light manual car.
@turboflush
@turboflush Жыл бұрын
One thing missed.. rebuilds? Send it off and get a core? Will Def look into this when it comes time.
@slfrules1
@slfrules1 Жыл бұрын
Wow this is a cool piece of tech!!! Seems like this could take over the Z/G scene
@YungJoga
@YungJoga Жыл бұрын
real! CD tranys in general I have one on my 1jz swapped s13, I saving up for one of these bad boys to get rid of the CD gravel noises
@danielkohler3458
@danielkohler3458 6 ай бұрын
sounds great but what's a neuton meter?
@MotiveVideo
@MotiveVideo 6 ай бұрын
Metric system
@mrs_radrod
@mrs_radrod Жыл бұрын
They don’t seem to have any offerings for the k-series transmissions. I’m in the market for a new clutch for k-swaps and this promises a lot for the money.
@devil8923
@devil8923 Жыл бұрын
i love them im going to use one in my jeep barra conversion cos i can get it to suit the barra but splin the middle to suit the jeep perfect for me :D
@hxllxman
@hxllxman Жыл бұрын
Happy to have click and watch 😊. Very interesting!
@mustcel5674
@mustcel5674 10 ай бұрын
Hello I would like to use this clutch on my gr yaris with single mass flywheel. Can you recommend me single mass flywheel which is compatible with this clutch? Thanks,Regards
@corporalpunishment1133
@corporalpunishment1133 Жыл бұрын
Can a uniclutch bolt to a flex plate and operate instead of flywheel.
@not12listen
@not12listen 8 ай бұрын
I did a quick price comparison of the Uniclutch VS a single mass flywheel and stage 1 clutch kit, and the price is significantly lower with the Uniclutch. So, I know what I'll be putting my money towards.
@MitchTube
@MitchTube Жыл бұрын
Brilliant idea and design. Let’s hope we keep getting manual cars!
@catsspat
@catsspat Жыл бұрын
The only way to keep manual cars around is to keep buying them. My first hand-me-down car was MT. I've since purchased 5 *new* cars, and 3/5 were MT. One AT car wasn't even for myself, so I got excuse for that, and I needed a specific feature on other AT car. I'm planning to pick up another new MT car within a year.
@Akatsukihi
@Akatsukihi 5 ай бұрын
Thought i will update I took plunge and got one. Its amazing, my r33 GTR drives like stock
@MotiveVideo
@MotiveVideo 5 ай бұрын
Great to hear!
@carllavery4069
@carllavery4069 Жыл бұрын
Are these just push style clutches as my evo x isa pull styles clutch be interesting know to be honest As I have just dropped a £1600 exedy twin plate in
@AzN_devil
@AzN_devil Жыл бұрын
sounds like a good solution for bmw with smfw chatter.... but the torque rating is kinda low (anything n54/b58/s55 running on ethanol mixes is going to need the track version) and personally, it's a bit expensive for what it is... the street version they currently have available on their site with a new flywheel costs more than a xclutch twin plate organic which comes with a new flywheel...
@hopesndreamsperformance7617
@hopesndreamsperformance7617 Жыл бұрын
So if they test the clutch prior to you getting it or prior to it sitting on the shelf does that mean it's already broken in kind of?😅
@r33skylineprojects59
@r33skylineprojects59 Жыл бұрын
Can we buy products from you Andrew ?
@Danger_mouse
@Danger_mouse Жыл бұрын
How much additional flywheel weight is added, by fitting the Uniclutch assembly with its own inbuilt flywheel? Like someone else posted, that bolted on torque ring does not looks like the sort of thing a track car will eat up. No doubt theres a heap of FDA and hopefully a lot of test hours on it and we'll be wrong about it, just looks... I dunno, flimsy 🤷
@matthewmorriss690
@matthewmorriss690 Жыл бұрын
Can you get replacement parts?? I asked our repco rep to check, she said clutch rep didnt know??
@HardstylePete
@HardstylePete Жыл бұрын
Very cool idea. You should fit a sports model to a gtr and test it at the drags.
@E.T.GARAGE
@E.T.GARAGE Жыл бұрын
This will be great for all C4 Corvettes (1989-1996) that had the ZF 6 speed with a dual mass flywheel.
@jagco2594
@jagco2594 10 ай бұрын
Do you make 1 for chevy 350 2 peace main seal. 10.5.
@jdmmr2
@jdmmr2 Жыл бұрын
Very interesting and cool Aussie product.
@daviddroescher
@daviddroescher Жыл бұрын
Sounds like the dual mass flywheel is acting like a harmonic isolator. Where the trans and rotating assembly are alowed to move into phase, or never stay in a bad synchronization long enough to setup a audible trimmer/shake/ resonance.
@magicman6179
@magicman6179 3 ай бұрын
I AM INTERESTED, but with a lightweight flywheel, does the Uniclutch system have a lot of NVH, or does it resemble the original in terms of vibrations and noise?
@daviddroescher
@daviddroescher 3 ай бұрын
​@magicman6179 From what he said in the video , it reduces NVH like a dual mass flywheel but betterand over a wider range of harmonics. A Cummins 6bt a12-1400rpm over works the springs as the pistons speed up appon firing then slow down on the next compression stroke. This rocking motion in excess of the springs ability to compensate makes the nut on the back of 5th gear back off at low rpm ,high load high tq( 800-1300 torque)
@4speed3pedals
@4speed3pedals Жыл бұрын
I wonder if these clutch assemblies will handle 7000 plus RPM and fully release to change gears? Many diaphragm clutches will stick to the floor at high RPM and that is not good.
@MotiveVideo
@MotiveVideo Жыл бұрын
Watch the video of it in our Z
@pewtubee
@pewtubee 9 ай бұрын
Send me one for my C7 ZO6 and I'll test the hell out of it and review it!
@slatery1
@slatery1 Жыл бұрын
Sounds perfect for what I'm wanting, but they don't have an option for Subaru 6 speed 😭
@ebutuoy8272
@ebutuoy8272 Жыл бұрын
Will this fit my Civic?
@sonofspaceghost_9290
@sonofspaceghost_9290 Жыл бұрын
I like it, but I love the feel of my unsprung clutch a whole lot better. The part about the internal dampening made me sad haha.
@simeonteelucksingh4488
@simeonteelucksingh4488 Жыл бұрын
Anything for fwd Sr guys?
@moisesr7840
@moisesr7840 Жыл бұрын
looks like NAPA sells them here in America but don't fit the WRX/STI's
@1tymz
@1tymz Жыл бұрын
Love everything I heard about this. However, I reached out to them and was told they don’t yet make a clutch for a 99 r34 gtr.
@1tymz
@1tymz Жыл бұрын
Motive, have you installed one on a skyline?
@burn4005
@burn4005 Жыл бұрын
ATS carbon twin plate is my favorite option.
@wezkerlim
@wezkerlim 8 ай бұрын
when you said act like a dual mass flywheel, do you mean you don't need a flywheel anymore? kinda confused
@kzh5443
@kzh5443 Жыл бұрын
Not gonna lie I actually like the jingling twin plate sound 😂
@yolandalindsay8368
@yolandalindsay8368 Жыл бұрын
Sounds like we are moVing in the right Direction.
@stonepvv
@stonepvv Жыл бұрын
Heavy duty clutch for towing by my diesel truck?
@BourneThisWay
@BourneThisWay Жыл бұрын
I’d like to see it in use.
@zerodrift1
@zerodrift1 Жыл бұрын
I wonder how well the anti-rattle springs help out...
@AWD_T
@AWD_T Жыл бұрын
Are these doing well? I emailed them and haven't heard back
@realtruth97
@realtruth97 Жыл бұрын
Name of the beat at the beginning, please?
@devil8923
@devil8923 Жыл бұрын
they are doing 4 clutches aswel doing a off road one aswell :D
@matthewwillshire4418
@matthewwillshire4418 Жыл бұрын
Love the technology behind it, but not a fan of those washers spacers ect To many areas for failures
@russiancommy
@russiancommy Жыл бұрын
yes you can machine duel mass flywheels.....
@buttongameit
@buttongameit Жыл бұрын
I couldn't find gtr on their website
@pezomatic1
@pezomatic1 Жыл бұрын
Dang, that's sweet.
@jetjox2000
@jetjox2000 Жыл бұрын
Would be nice to see these offered in the air cooled Porsche 911’s and 930’s
@tiagosilva.b5
@tiagosilva.b5 9 ай бұрын
I need this to my Audi A4 1.8T but they don't make one for these cars for some reason.....
@b3nny90
@b3nny90 Жыл бұрын
So will we see one in the gtr?
@MotiveVideo
@MotiveVideo Жыл бұрын
The Z
@jamessbarker
@jamessbarker 11 ай бұрын
@@MotiveVideo How has this clutch held up in the z?
@mariusfridlund55
@mariusfridlund55 Жыл бұрын
and the prize for the vlutch is?
@sam_rb6629
@sam_rb6629 Жыл бұрын
They dont make it for rb26dett...no matter the year i put its only 2.0L or 2.5L. Sad..
@Gidanski
@Gidanski Жыл бұрын
Might actually be able to get a clutch for a GTIR thats twin disc and not a paddle for race use.
@justin_mathew_kenny
@justin_mathew_kenny Жыл бұрын
That's impressive
@LAndrewsChannel
@LAndrewsChannel Жыл бұрын
8:22 Under Magnusson Moss Act (in the US) it is literally illegal to claim that disassembling a product voids the warranty. Like all "warranty void if removed" stickers. The warranty provider need to prove that the consumer caused the defect by disassembling, not the other way around: "The performance of the duties under subsection (a) shall not be required of the warrantor if he can show that the defect, malfunction, or failure of any warranted consumer product to conform with a written warranty, was caused by damage (not resulting from defect or malfunction) while in the possession of the consumer, or unreasonable use (including failure to provide reasonable and necessary maintenance)." This is sad as it shows anti-consumer behavior from the seller.
@Chilicharger665
@Chilicharger665 Жыл бұрын
Surely you’ve figured out by now the company isn’t American.
@LAndrewsChannel
@LAndrewsChannel Жыл бұрын
@@Chilicharger665 That is irrelevant since the purchase is made in the US.
@christianpaulroldan4010
@christianpaulroldan4010 Жыл бұрын
Nice
@Panthercholo
@Panthercholo Жыл бұрын
I emailed them. Nothing for an LS7 with 580 TQ at the wheels. 😢 That's only 786 NM...
@timaustin110
@timaustin110 Жыл бұрын
👌 nice
@matman429
@matman429 Жыл бұрын
So waiting for something for the barra lol.
@Thomamps
@Thomamps Жыл бұрын
What's annoying is buying from an Australian company in Australia and having to pay in USD.
@iTroIIin
@iTroIIin Жыл бұрын
I konda like the rattle/chatter of a Twin Plate. Lets the little kids know whats up
@va_innovations
@va_innovations Жыл бұрын
A lot of added rotational inertia
@MotiveVideo
@MotiveVideo Жыл бұрын
500g is a “lot” ?
@outlawsalways
@outlawsalways Жыл бұрын
I just brought the sports 1100bucks not bad well I'll see how this goes in my ss
@jamessbarker
@jamessbarker 11 ай бұрын
How has it gone for you so far? ive just bought one yesterday for my 370GT making 750nm of torque and 554 whp
@AshtonCoolman
@AshtonCoolman Жыл бұрын
They don't have one for my 1991 R32 GTR yet. I'll wait a little longer.
@SkylineUSA32
@SkylineUSA32 Жыл бұрын
They do not have a kit for an RB26😫
@JQ_Unity
@JQ_Unity Жыл бұрын
Give me one of these behind my drift n54. I'll destroy it one full track day 😂. Sceptical of that pressure plate and ring setup
@brendanmichaelides2005
@brendanmichaelides2005 Жыл бұрын
A normal clutch was never difficult to install, obviously better performance, but am I missing the point?
@bluesrike
@bluesrike Жыл бұрын
1. Instead of making a clutch that will only work for a specific engine and nothing else, they use adapters rings that match a specifica engine and that allows them to mass-produce the clutch for cheaper. 2. The clutch has internal dampeners similar to a dual-mass flywheel.
@ubacow7109
@ubacow7109 Жыл бұрын
Why doesnt anyone make a twin plate kevlar clutch?
@vvvv-lu8zi
@vvvv-lu8zi 7 ай бұрын
If pressure plate still good but the rest is worned out ..everything goes to the garbage?? No way to services or replaced only bad parts???
@roceye
@roceye Жыл бұрын
Seems like the weak link will be the flywheel adaptor plate. Not much meat there.
@MotiveVideo
@MotiveVideo Жыл бұрын
Do you have engineering data to prove this?
@floriangr7888
@floriangr7888 Жыл бұрын
My skyline has a stage 4 competition clutch from the previous owner Real heavy clutch Wenn I drive my daily afterwards I tend to wanna press my foot through the floor
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