The Most Controversial Comic Book Moments

The history of comics is rife with controversial moments that have upset fans and the general public alike. Sometimes it's killing a beloved hero like The Death Of Superman and sometimes it's that time we saw Batman's...Dawn Of Justice. Here's some of our favorites from over the decades. Thanks for watching! Also they are releasing the Snyder Cut did you know that? You heard it here first.
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[@mrsundaymovies]

Hey did you hear people are wanting to change Joss Whedon's Justice League?!? Outrageous and I will not stand for it.

[@danks0n]

Will it feature Batman’s dong atleast?

[@bent2461]

Better have bat nips and dongs for everyone

[@idanzadok5347]

Don't care. If it's Justice League, then I'm all in.

[@jeong123jeong]

I'm just looking forward to the Maclunkey cut of Justice League

[@jimd385]

I too have heard of this alternate version, hmmmm? What shall we call it?

[@m_ali_0450]

Remember that time Pink Kryptonite made Superman Gay and that other time that Lois Lane turned black and Superman didn’t want to marry her? Good times...

[@mikebearthegamer1365]

@Conn Benn it is, golden age baby. It's a wild ride

[@dildonius]

Remember that time Batman turned into a GIGANTIC FLYING HUMAN BUZZSAW AND WREAKED HAVOC ALL OVER GOTHAM BUZZING ABOUT AND SLICING THROUGH THINGS?! CUZ THAT FUCKING HAPPENED! OR HOW ABOUT THE TIME WHEN SUPERMAN LEGALLY ADOPTED HIS PAL JIMMY OLSEN AND THEN WAS A HORRIBLE, IRREDEEMABLE, EMOTIONALLY, PSYCHOLOGICALLY, POSSIBLY EVEN PHYSICALLY ABUSIVE *ASSHOLE AND A HALF* TO HIM THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE STORY AND THEN UN-ADOPTED HIM BECAUSE REASONS! Wtf even *_WERE_* the 1950s in comic books like Batman...

[@ericstaples7220]

Ask yourself, would you marry Lois Lane if she were Black?

[@ojpistorius6369]

@@ericstaples7220 seems like an odd name for a black woman

[@SpoonDude]

The gay Superman one was always a one panel joke from an alternate earth comic (where I think he married Supergirl? Now THAT was weird) The Black Lois thing tho... that happened and at one point was canon I guess 😅

[@TheAuntyDonnaChannel]

I got the dong edition. I didn't know it had dong until well after the dong controversy happened. I read it and didn't see any dong and then months later someone said it had dong so I check and it was there. So yeah, I got the dong.

[@mrsundaymovies]

You lucky duck!

[@pasta-and-heroin]

who reads comics in Aunty D?? watched the show you did I think 3 yrs ago @ The Gov in Adelaide, hope you're well xxx

[@peterstangl8295]

@@pasta-and-heroin i bet it's Mark

[@DrowzyDruid]

I'm so excited to watch your comedy special guys, top tier comedians in my book, but it seems your book features Bruce Wayne boner

[@doomstadt2371]

@@mrsundaymovies Lucky Dong.

[@dj__alien]

“Yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah...” “Yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah...” -Mr Sunday and Mason, 2020

[@samshackleford6981]

oh yeah yeah right

[@mannylloyd4375]

This was a remarkably accurate count of yeahs. Many props to you. *hands you key with a closet full of stage props

[@greencubed1274]

@@mannylloyd4375 you fool, never give anxious blowup men the keys to the prop room.

[@mrjeff3000]

It’s..PC...gone mad?

[@arthurnordin6046]

they made me think of Nick Kroll and John Mulaney in the "Oh Hello Show" so much for some reason...

[@REaDComicsau]

“Let’s give it to Gwen Stacy cause she’s dead, she can’t defend herself and she’s not real.” -Mason 😂😂😂😂

[@willmaas187]

You guys are so chill and it really makes you entertaining

[@hdflatscreen8478]

Exactly

[@user-lynKx]

Their exchanges as friends are just too amazing.

[@TheFiddleFaddle]

I think they're secretly very angry people who kick puppies for sport.

[@ALtheBoi]

SW Dad definitely

[@Water_Me_Loan_64_YT]

Bruh, I can listen to these two talk for hours. (While staying Hydrated and eating food, of course.)

[@Valihir]

What about when spiderman killed Mary Jane because his blood isn't the only thing that's radioactive

[@MrDamsky100]

I've always hated that plot point purely because it overshadows a pretty great Dark Knight Returns kind of alternate reality Spider-Man story

[@sowhenisdadcomingback7038]

XD “not the only thing that’s radioactive”

[@mikesholler27]

I legit hate that all the story is known for.

[@niclennox2555]

What else was radioactive?

[@Godzillakingofthenoobs]

@@niclennox2555 his uh "love fluid"

[@baddealdude807]

Why didn’t you mention the comic where Spider-Man kills Mary Jane with his radioactive semen

[@somerandolad]

That was hilarious!

[@Isaackariuki775]

Wait, what?!!

[@samways6724]

OMG yes 😂

[@dildonius]

Well, its not canon so it's not as big of a deal.

[@maxhydekyle2425]

@@Isaackariuki775 Spider-Man Reign

[@Lynch2507]

I love how the most controversial part of Damned was the bat dick and not how bad it was for the first Black Label comic

[@Jahanam9994]

I just read the synopsis on Wikipedia. Jesus christ, time travel back to when Bruce's parents died? But not really?

[@Lynch2507]

@@Jahanam9994 it's like, maybe its purgatory but also maybe it's not? And then the joker gets comes back but does he? Was it all a dream? It's such tacky horseshit

[@Lynch2507]

@@Jahanam9994 like, if they just went with "Batman gets possessed by some fucked up magic shit and needs Constantine help to solve it" , I'd be fine with that. Throw in Deacon Blackfire as a villain doing some Jonestown shit, easy mature batman magic story.

[@larsonracies8636]

Are you related to David Lynch by any chance?

[@ScreamingScallop]

"This is our rare opportunity to tell good, mature stories--" "HOOOO HOOOOO HOOOOO PENISSSSSSSSSSSS"

[@senorpickle6239]

Chris Nolens, “The Dong Night”

[@liammcbillybob1251]

The dong halloween

[@bdonovable]

The Long Halloweener

[@munjee2]

The name nolan roughly translates to "the nine penises" from my native language

[@macafromthewired]

@@munjee2 what language is this

[@daraghokane4236]

They should make a black label Scooby doo.

[@Dorian_sapiens]

😳

[@-Ryodan]

They sort of did with Scooby Doo Apocolypse

[@JamesW6179]

They also did an adult Flintstones. It was honestly depressing.

[@nathanbuttgame]

Rut roh raggy.

[@ChangedMyNameFinally69]

@@JamesW6179 Isn't that just Genndy Tartovsky's Primal?

[@michaeltunnicliffe4935]

I Stopped paying attention for one moment and i genuinely thought you said Hydro Cap. Now i can't stop imagining a strange Aquaman/Captain America mix that i like to call Captain Atlantis lol

[@johnalddrumph456]

Or a Cap that just sits around smoking Hydroponic weed all day with Snoop

[@ScreamingScallop]

Hail Hydro.

[@rootintootinnewton]

Captain Hydrolics

[@TheRealGuywithoutaMustache]

I remember when the death of Superman at the hands of Doomsday scared the people that it was going to bring an end to DC comics because Superman was dead. Little did they know he had Main Character Syndrome.

[@timisajoke724]

I find you everywhere!

[@wrestlinganime4life288]

Justice league unlimited handle better the death of Superman. Rather than make him dying, he just disappeared and found in a another universe where he has no power

[@sirtoby4939]

That was back when characters stayed dead for a while. Hal Jordan was dead a the time. As was Kara Zor-El.

[@sammykent5752]

@@sirtoby4939 No he wasn't. Hal Jordan dies two years after that. Kara Zor-El's death was a weird one because that happened in Pre-Crisis and in the Post-Crisis timeline Kara Zor-El technically was still alive. She hadn't even arrived on Earth yet.

[@DanielFolsom]

@Conrad Kujur I mean I don't know if I'd say it's simple minded to think that "death" in comics resembles death in the real world. In fact, I'd argue that the fact that death of main characters in comics resembles a common cold in the real world is what's a bit simple.

[@Comic3247]

Hank Pym slapping Jannet

[@dildonius]

Or how about Ultimate Hank Pym, who somehow made it so Janet was stuck shrunk down to tiny wasp size and incapable of growing back to normal human size (btw in Ultimate universe is a mutant who can shrink to the size of a wasp and grow back to regular human size and also has tiny wings on her back that aren't affected by her shrinking so she can use them to fly around and stuff when she's small and they're too tiny to see on her when she's normal sized), and then used his Ant-Man helmet to order a swarm of ants to attack her and make her essentially think they were going to eat her alive (which they 100% could have, there were hundreds of them), then as she was screaming and crying and begging with him and essentially being traumatized to hell and back, he leaned over her and said "You shouldn't have made me feel small." And then eventually he called the ants off and allowed her to grow back to her normal human size. OH! And then later in the Ultimatum arc, when Magneto used Thor's hammer to cause DEVASTATING GLOBAL FLOODS AND NATURAL DISASTERS, which resulted in God damn near EVERY MAJOR CHARACTER IN THE ULTIMATE UNIVERSE DYING A HORRIBLY GRAPHIC DEATH before our very eyes or fucking DYING OFF SCRREN! (Seriously, numerous MAJOR characters in Ultimate comic books - especially Ultimate X-Men for some reason, like Nightcrawler & Wolverine - just fucking DIED OFF SCREEN and we either stumble across their dead (usually drowned or crushed under debris or both) bodies or their deaths are just mentioned in passing by certain characters during exposition dumps. So characters we've come to grow attached and endeared to are either killed violently and unnecessarily graphically on-screen, or unceremoniously die off-screen. Of course with ONE character, BOTH THINGS HAPPENED! What character, you ask? Why none other than JANET PYM - THE WASP, OF COURSE! She dies off-screen during the big flooding of Manhattan, but then while combing through the wrecked city several superheroes (including Hank Pym, whos doing the Giant Man thing here) stumble upon an absolutely INSANE looking Blob (you know, The Blob from X-Men) fucking EATING JANET PYM'S DEAD BODY! The heroes (and the reader) are reasonably disgusted - but its ok! Blob assured us that she did NOT die as a result of him eating her alive, nor did he kill her and THEN start eating her! (Obviously Blob and by extension the hack who wrote this fucking garbage aren't THAT sick in the head) No, Blob was just hungry and came across Janet's dead, drowned body and figured "Welp, she's dead. Guess it's ok for me to FUCKING EAT HER NOW!" Naturally, Hank is very distressed to see this. So he goes Giant-Man mode and picks up Blob (who is about the size of a small soda cab in Giant Man's hand here) and then proceeds to fucking BITE BLOB'S HEAD OFF! Since he's now mourning (after the shit HE did to her when he was alive, jfc) he wanders away from the others, still in Giant mode and starts walking through either a heavily flooded part of Manhattan or the East River or the Hudson River. Meanwhile, Magneto has also hired Multiple Man to work as a mass suicide bomber. See, Multiple Man continually makes duplicates of himself that they fit with vests that have the world's most powerful, wide ranging and destructive explosives packed into them, and then another mutant who can like open up portals or teleport others to any place in the world sends them to various locations to blow themselves up. As long as the original stays alive, they can keep doing this for as long as they have explosive vests. And so, while Giant Man walks away wallowing in grief, wading through the water or possibly one of NYC's rivers, A MULTIPLE MAN DUPLICATE SUDDENLY TELEPORTS *INSIDE* OF GIANT MAN AND SETS OFF HIS POWERFULLY EXPLOSIVE SUICIDE VEST, BLOWING GIANT MAN UP FROM THE INSIDE OUT, KILLING HIM. And then gigantic chunks of Giant Man's gigantic exploded body begin to rain down on the city and our heroes. Also, it essentially is raining Hank Pym's blood for a short while. Oh yeah, and I think a massive chunk of Giant Man's exploded body lands on top of one or more characters - possibly one or more of the superheroes we've been following, crushing and killing them instantly. Fuck Ultimatum. Theres edgelord schlock pumped out purely for shock-value....and then there's fucking ULTIMATUM. >shudder

[@RJCXDOfficial]

@@dildonius man your parentheses broke the flow of your paragraph. So hard to read lol. But ya I hate ultimates too

[@johnnyperozo2987]

Did you know that Reed Richards straight up Punched Sue Storm it the face? I never see anyone complaining about that. They complain about Pym, Who was having a meltdown, reacted and accidentally gave Janet a backhand.

[@bizzerdman2093]

@@johnnyperozo2987 Reed did it to break Susan out of her brain washing and it was a slap not a punch (she had to hate him to break free). Hank on the other hand did it because Janet was trying to convince him to not go through with his plan to make himself look good by putting the Avengers in danger with his robot (which almost got him killed too). Also the his dialogue to Janet right after the slap shows it wasn't an accident.

[@Magmafrost13]

@@dildonius Dont forget that Wasp's dead body was still hyper-sexualised WHILE Blob was eating her

[@mathewbeck4504]

Darth Vader: my master, Superman is dead Palpatine: wow didn’t expect that Darth Vader: yeah and his cousin is dating a Lex Luther clone that he put his mind in cause he got cancer. Palpatine: that shits wack Also Palpatine: *Note to self, use clone body after death*

[@mexicanbatman8157]

That's makes sense

[@foldabotZ]

Even before Rise of Skywalker and even Disney's new canon, Palpatine has always been portrayed to have contingency plan in the event of his death.

[@mexicanbatman8157]

@@foldabotZ but still the sequels suck

[@tazersmurf4689]

Batgirl and Batman doing it in an animated version of a story where it didn't happen in the comics. The movie didn't seem to have needed that part either. Another one would be the House of M storyline and it's aftereffects.

[@li-limandragon9287]

Bruce Timm is a creepy Batman/Batgirl shipper, he put that shit in to Batman Beyond too.

[@Lazrael32]

I think the killing joke is important the same way superman's death and batman's broken back did. It drastically effected the characters continuity. It was shocking for the time. however it isn't the long drawn out and built up to story those were. it was short and just happened. I agree it didn't suit a movie format. and i do think barbara was created for the live action tv show as a love interest.... but i could be wrong. definitely icky in the way bruce timm has traditionally done it.

[@tazersmurf4689]

@bigevilworldwide1 I don't mind the 1st part, but the sex didn't need to be in there. The movie works fine without that angle. The story needing to be made into a film is a whole different argument.

[@li-limandragon9287]

The worst part is that the actual Killing Joke stuff between Batman and Joker is rushed and Conroy and Hamill kinda phone it in.

[@dinkledonker801]

@@li-limandragon9287 In the third animated series movie too, the one with Batwoman. Bruce calls up Barbara and she gets all sexual and goes "I thought I was your only girl" or something like that. It's gross

[@TrueUnderDawgGaming]

I'd say making Peter Parker a clone in the 90's was pretty crazy and controversial. Since before that everyone thought that Ben Reilly (Scarlet Spider) was a clone of him

[@psyifinotic]

we don’t talk about that

[@TupocalypseShakur]

Honestly it's too complicated trying to explain how we got there

[@Nuggetlord6969]

Under dawg watches mr Sunday? Woah

[@craighicksartwork]

Very surprised this didn't turn up.

[@didgya]

Yeah. I had a monthly subscription to Amazing Spider Man during all the clone stuff ✌

[@NateFigs]

I bet them stopping telling stories about Corn of Coblin is on this list

[@nuandlarry]

Release the Corn of Coblin cut!

[@jeong123jeong]

Release the Maclunkey cut

[@adamthompson4072]

Only had to go 3 comments before I found someone talking about Corn of Coblin. I'm happy

[@jackskandia5986]

As an Australian I'm so proud of how far you guys have come, I used to watch you in class in highschool every lesson no joke and to see how far you've come it's awesome love you guys will never stop watching xxxx

[@LukLuk1234]

The problem with the New 52 was that the green lantern continuity had still happened which meant that a lot of pre new 52 happened Also superman died, and then he was taken over by post crisis superman, and then he was combined with the new 52 superman and they like kinda mixed it was weird

[@ryansmith-jr4gn]

The Superman stuff was in Rebirth not the New 52.

[@Lazlowinthehouse]

Doomsday clock “ fixed” this. The new 52 is in its own separate universe now

[@RadioofHorror]

And Death of Superman ties directly into GL current status quo of Hal going nuts and all the different ring colors and Blackest Night

[@Lynch2507]

@@Lazlowinthehouse Doomsday Clock doesn't even fit into the timeline of current DC. Like, where does it fit in along with all the Perpetua War stuff and then later on this year Death Metal?

[@rodney2x48]

It’s even worse: Batman and Green Lantern were almost completely unchanged, with most of their history having been retconned. Like, Batman going through time happened, which means Final Crisis happened, which also means all the prior Crisis events also happened... But they don’t know who the Anti-Monitor is during Darkseid War... But you can’t have Final Crisis without Crisis on Infinite Earths. It made no fucking sense and it’s even worse with Rebirth since they just combined both continuities with Superman: Reborn. Certain characters were fully rebooted and changed, but others weren’t and the stories from previous continuity are referenced to have happened in new continuity but off screen. That’s not a good way to make a reboot.

[@aderitomachado1754]

How about when Frank Castle went to jail, had to do plastic surgery when he escaped and was turned temporarily black?

[@PirateKingBoros]

I laughed so hard while I was reading that one.

[@OFED]

This made me spit my Cheerios and now they’re unhappyos :(

[@EasyCure0]

If this is real, it's a perfect way to get RDJ back in the MCU..

[@aderitomachado1754]

@@OFED kzbin.info/www/bejne/b2maXoKjrJKipas

[@aderitomachado1754]

@@OFED Sorry

[@jonbaxter2254]

I love animated snipets from the podcast, I find when I listen to the whole thing I lose focus, and I can't just stare at a still for an hour and a half

[@dausthrowaway4349]

the visual aids really help keep the conversation coherent

[@psychonaut1829]

"But why the dong?" "Because hes Batman"

[@para-ps1bb]

The only reason they change Tim's continuity from being Robin straight to Red Robin was to shorten Batman's storyline (skip throu the years when Tim was Robin, then the girl Robin, then Damian appears) thus making Bruce Wayne younger and more sexy and perfect (rather than the older, more gritty and made a huge bunch of mistakes in his career). I think this is stupid too.

[@MakeVarahHappen]

The biggest problem with fridging (besides the sexist biased towards women) is that you were not killing a character to complete their own arc but someone else's. In Endgame or Death of Superman the characters are given heroic send offs but too often supporting characters or partners of superheroes are just killed so that they can have heroic moments and it shows that these aren't complex characters but plot devices and objects to give story hooks. I think the best example of this is how John Wick's dog is killed at the beginning to send him on his rampage. it's a touching scene and it makes sense but the fact that you can replace the story beats that are typically given to a girlfriend or wife or daughter or mother with a dog means that you don't actually have a character when it's a girlfriend or wife or daughter or mother.

[@daraghokane4236]

Thats like saying we need a backstory for batman's parents them being kill is what motivates batman he said il never let that happen to anyone again. They have no story only as backstory for Batman same for the entire planet of krypton Clark was raided on a farm they barely matter to the story replace hes an alien with a mutant and t stays mostly the same

[@MakeVarahHappen]

@@daraghokane4236 Yes, and the comic doesn't waste time on them. Fridged characters take up time and space and then get treated as objects. It's a hack writing decision and can be pretty sexist when so many female characters are just props for male heroes.

[@MrMoustacheNinja]

Biggest controversy: Marvel shutting down Corn of Goblin

[@blackphoenix77]

*Corn of Coblin

[@ItsTheGuy77]

"it's certainly not your grandpa's dong either. This is a new and fresh dong". That part absolutely slayed me 😂 🤣😂

[@johannesbaumgartel2381]

If your pissed off about Sins Past read Spider-Man Blue to heal your soul

[@DarkCreedNinja]

I hope he includes the one about Ant Man drinking an egg cream with no eggs nor cream

[@OrinOfAtlantis]

The correct terminology is actually "The Bat Pole"

[@the_rose_garden01]

I've got it on good authority that you're right

[@innatebubble121]

Guys, in honor of the resurgence of Avatar on Netflix, can you do a CoG on The Last Airbender film? I wanna hear you guys rip it to shreds.

[@Snugboy]

PLEASE WE NEED THIS

[@ThreadBomb]

Has Avatar resurged on Netflix?

[@Snugboy]

@@ThreadBomb I think it just got added to American Netflix so they are raving about it over there

[@Lynch2507]

@@ThreadBomb "resurged " no. "Added to American Netflix" yes

[@innatebubble121]

Oisin Lynch I think resurgence is a good word, since #1 in the country for Netflix is pretty awesome for a 15 year old cartoon.

[@FrostMeiser]

0/10: needs even more Corn of Coblin

[@mysterym9521]

Nah needs more clapping Lando

[@thesuperherosoul]

This is about controversial moments so why would they bring up a character so universally beloved?

[@markfunkbunch7179]

i would think aunt may being peters mom would be controversial.

[@ChangedMyNameFinally69]

Is that the comic with teenage versions of his parents and Uncle Ben and Aunt May?

[@p.h.i.lcongure9168]

When the Snyder cut is coming out before the flash

[@Lynch2507]

Snyder cut is being made before the flash as well

[@thecollector4332]

That one was already done

[@ChrisLawton66]

I choked on my whiskey when you showed "Batman: Dong". That really hurt. Thanks for that.

[@braydenheon7689]

The first one with batman reminds me of robot chicken when Wonder Woman goes “BATMAN’S BALLS” after he walked in naked

[@arshadullah9472]

Last Time I was this early The Snyder Cut still didn't exist

[@DomoftheDoctor]

Technically, it won't exist until 2021.

[@djofortunato5799]

It actually still doesn't "exist". WB simply approved 20 to 30 mil necessary to make his assembly cut into something resembling completion.

[@Lynch2507]

It doesn't, it's being made atm

[@mookly1056]

luthor being a redhead that then went bald is like perfect villain origin story. that's all you need

[@gardenerjpg]

I’m not from Australia but I’m watching a couple Aussie KZbinrs and when I heard you say Venom was vegimite that went bad I felt closer to the people of Australia and just laughed lol

[@tazbhuiyan6813]

I'm still chuffed you picked my topic (I just wanted you to talk about dongs for an hour)

[@Calekoflight]

I remember very specifically that before Arkham Knight came out, the devs insisted that The Gotham or Arkham Knight...i forget...was very definitely NOT Jason Todd. They said up and down that he was a new character because most of the fanbase had already figured it out just from the character design. Then, lo and behold, a quarter of the way through the game you start getting Jason Todd flashbacks...

[@wugglesx]

The outright lying and deception at times, does get pretty frustrating..

[@iamdylanavery]

Looks like now you need to do an entire video about Ant Man beating his wife

[@awesomeperson531]

Dylan Avery he could do that, of you could watch Nerdsync’s video

[@PittsburghSonido]

Ah, the good ol’ days.

[@92brunod]

why not about Talia raping Batman to force him to have a child? That's a little bit worse than a slap, don't you think?

[@ChangedMyNameFinally69]

@@92brunod Yeah but nobody likes Damian anyway

[@ChocoboKid216]

Corn of the Coblin's most controversial comic is in that issue #242. I can't believe they did that in that comic.

[@LukeBeardmore]

I love how there is literally no editing when it comes to the audio, it all just naturally flows. I wish I had a friend who I could have that with :D

[@KelticTim]

I just noticed for the first time ever, in the famous scene of Lois crying over Super Dinks dead body, you can clearly see the label on her jacket. That’s some insane detail work. Pointless, but great.

[@youvegotmailed]

remember that time when Corn of Coblin set a tomato field on fire? Good times...

[@eatyagrandmasgrapes3858]

The death of Superman was sad time for comic book readers my boy sacrifice himself to save mankind

[@TomMcKee33]

Hahah “there can only ever be 5 Robins in continuity at any given time”

[@escargoat8552]

The "fridging" problem was specifically regarding the mistreatment of women in comics, not just the death of a character.

[@TheLordGlenn]

The outrage/craziness over Batman Damned #1 was so stupid when, a week later, Doomsday Clock came out and featured Dr. Manhattan in all of his... glory, and no one cared (and that wasn't even published under Black Label!).

[@isaacacosta8848]

“More of a goody poo shoes” this is why I watch

[@captaintaco2345]

What about Spider-Man killing Mary Jane with his radioactive balls?

[@awesomeperson531]

captaintaco2345 different reality

[@simonegreco1958]

Alternate reality And honestly, there are worst things in canon

[@thecollector4332]

I remember a huge controversy surrounding that comic because it showed spider man with a small dick.

[@thecrimsonghostakathefiend7508]

Actually lobo in the new 52 was always skinny ,and gothy. The original lobo came back ,and killed off the New 52 lobo . (The new 52 lobo was killed ,apologized to the readers ,basically the writers apologizing for the New 52 lobo. )

[@sjbrooksy45]

I think they were referring to his first couple of appearances ever. He was more svelte and looked more like an 80s hair band singer. I get he turned into a parody of edgy, hyper violent characters of the late 80s/early 90's, and was never supposed to be serious, but he was just so awesome and fun, why change it? Just kind of showed that they didn't know what they were doing.

[@joshstephens9513]

I want to point out for the record that both those trash Spiderman storylines were forced by Joe Quesada, who was editor in chief at the time. It makes me angry every time Straczynski gets blamed for him. He actually left the book because he was pissed about all the trash Quesada forced on him. It's been years and I'm still pissed about it.

[@WingerEdison]

People hated the Lobo change because he killed the version that people liked and said that guy wasn't really lobo. Then the slim guy proceeded to not be anything people liked about Lobo. That seemed more like they missed the point entirely of the character. That was a big part of the dislike for the New 52, that so many characters got changed fundamentally in ways that didn't feel true to what they represented. I think that's ultimately the thing fans dislike the most in general about big changes and controversial stories, when the writers make a character do something that doesn't seem in character or they basically become or act like a different person, just for the convenience of the story the writer wants to tell. Case in point: Heroes in Crisis

[@shouldntyoubecooking]

When James is busy with Baby Sunday #2 and needs a video. Still quality content though.

[@Lowlight23]

Great video! I also recommend Max Landis "Death and Return of Superman" to watch after this. Hilarious stuff. 😂

[@aidanrogers4438]

The Batman dong seems like something they put in just to get a some spotlight on the comic line, with the controversy, rather than actual artistic need.

[@bibbyboxx2219]

It’s just Brian Azzarello being himself.

[@josephcooper8754]

The Bat Dong writers seem to have confused adult for mature.

[@li-limandragon9287]

There’s nothing wrong with Bat dong in the right context, just him pulling his Nightwing out while just changing clothes is cheap.

[@dannywang6206]

@@li-limandragon9287m Lk..bmqnm 3 k. Tlm n9

[@TevyaSmolka]

god the new 52 was a complete and utter nightmare

[@TheIrishYoshi]

There were some pretty good parts, but it was very messy

[@TevyaSmolka]

@( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) 乇乂ㄒ尺卂 ㄒ卄丨匚匚 i can agree with that so was scott snyder batman and and tomasi batman and robin that's about it

[@TevyaSmolka]

@@TheIrishYoshi agreed and you're right about that

[@yagopacheco2855]

Aquaman and Green Lantern were great

[@li-limandragon9287]

I only read 52 JL for Jim Lee’s spectacular art. He makes western comics feel like anime.

[@unclefranklin4575]

First time I saw frozen 2 I remember thinking "they fridged olaf"

[@twstf8905]

Damn, that, "The World is Not Enough," thumbnail of Denise Richards...🔥

[@angrybrony]

the wanda quicksilver incest definitely is the most "WHY WOULD YOU MAKE THIS? WHY DID YOU BRING THIS INTO EXISTENCES!?" thing on this list.

[@TrueUnderDawgGaming]

The Batman dong was only "Controversial" for me because I wanted to see more characters nude...I mean, just to be fair (cough) Catwoman (cough)

[@starchygoblin9859]

Rule 34

[@cole6245]

From what I remember the backlash Captain Hydra got was because the original creators of Captain America were Jewish and created the character during WW2 to fight Hitler in the comics, and then the new comic made him a leader in a nazi cult

[@beastlysoldierful]

Kinda got the "evil cap" thing misunderstood. There definitely was fan outrage when it initially happened because of the idea of making a character made by a Jewish man to fight back on nazis, turn into a nazi, was considered disrespectful. And they changed the ending based on the backlash as the writer initially said "there are no tricks here, no brain washing or alternative cap things going on. It's fully the cap we knew on his own".

[@li-limandragon9287]

I genuinely believe Jack Kirby and Joe Simon might’ve supported the twist and story. Superman’s creators Jerry Siegel and Joe Shuster (who were also both Jewish) were initially gonna make Superman a evil Nazi “Übermensch”. Comic writers have always been open minded.

[@beastlysoldierful]

@@li-limandragon9287 but that's a an assumption right? I think the fact that it was completely out of their control was part of the problem

[@li-limandragon9287]

Well Jack and Joe are both dead so it’s hard to get their approval. Stan Lee who helped create the Marvel we know and love and wrote the story that brought Cap back and wrote many of his book, *did think it was good twist* and approved. I do think Nick Spencer is a good writer and fanbase was kinda hypocritical and blow it out proportion, especially when 20 years ago (before the MCU) nobody would’ve cared if Cap was a Hydra agent.

[@cheeseburger12]

​@@li-limandragon9287Wasn't it controversial when in the 80s Cap shot and killed an someone- and that wasn't murder. The Zeck cover with Cap going off when an Uzi. I think Cap being brainwashed to be a Hydra agent and breaks out of it before murdering people would be a story people would have liked. A brainwashed Cap murdering people isn't.

[@eltravos99]

You guys are hilarious. I don't know how you come up with such good banter. It must be an Australian thing.

[@mrsundaymovies]

It’s all in the accent, we’re as dumb as a rock.

[@eltravos99]

@@mrsundaymovies Don't let Korg hear that.

[@Dodzolive]

You guys make my day

[@mickesmanymovies]

I'm not much of a comic book afficionado, I'm more of a movie guy. But that last one you talked about, 'A Death In The Family'. I remember that vividly! I remember reading that when it was first pubished, and to me that was one of the most unapologetically violent Batman issues I had ever read. The part where the Joker just goes to town on Robin, with a whole panel of 5-6 thin frames, of him just bashing him while blood splatters everywhere!! It was almost unnerving, and I remember for the first time really wishing the Joker would get permanently killed in that story.

[@kirkbrackmann6385]

Awesome vid guys

[@Calum_Smith]

*Released 9 min ago* *comment posted 8 min ago* *video 22 min long* Hmmmmmmm

[@Eternity909]

You physically can’t have watched the whole thing

[@nothisispatrick5691]

What about when Gwen cheated on Peter with Norman Osborn and was pregnant with his twin goblin children in Europe behinds Peters back.

[@albstare]

They specifically mention that in the video lol.

[@McEiring]

Wanna watch this, but planing on listening to the pod later. life is hard man

[@EclipseEH]

“It’s a double standard there dont You think Ya ya ya ya ya ya ya ya ya “ 😂😂😂

[@pudding7876]

I didn't have to but I did it! I left a like!

[@caligula1914]

JESUS YOU CRAZY DOG!!!!!

[@ItsTheGuy77]

Whoa, Calm down, Satan

[@kaidanfromalberta4452]

I love mason’s Jurassic snark joke came back. I remembered that from the podcast

[@shanewolf5941]

love your stuff. put a high pass filter on james' mic so get rid of that low ring in the audio. keep on rockin!

[@sayedelsherif6354]

I Came for "The Most Controversial Comic Book Moments" & Left confused from them for not knowing the timeline of the comic books.

[@mustang8206]

The other problem is there was literally no reason to draw Batman naked

[@li-limandragon9287]

Azzarello is weird like that

[@novakrabby]

Remaking Justice League while adding so many characters except Mclunkey is the true controversy

[@rhodriwilliams2599]

Good Job RawCollings!! Going the extra mile yet again

[@rawcollings]

Williams!! Thank you to you mate.

[@grabtab3998]

I understood only half the things but you guys are really fun

[@dimmonkey]

When you talk about comic deaths I always think of Chew, that comic ripped my heart out.

[@goldenstatewarriors9418]

This video just made me realize how crazy the comic book unit ease can be. Like I know the well known storylines, like Death o Superman, Killing Joke, all those, but the amount of reboots is insane.

[@theCharityCase]

Some youtubers are chicken soup for my soul tbh

[@ChangedMyNameFinally69]

You fine

[@tadhg82]

That “Batman: Damned” controversy was confounding at the time. They buy a comic marketed as mature and they freak out at a dick? It reminds me of Tipper Gore and her war against “porn rock”, only dumber.

[@Dongleoid]

Knightfall is actually the only omnibus I have and I love it!

[@harktheheral]

The Eradicator design is simultaneously great and so quintessentially 90s.

[@LPdaMC]

"I just wanna feel something" Haha, so true in these dark times...

[@TimmHenson]

8:15 hard as I tried... this killed new 52 for me too. when they lost me, I never found my way back.

[@attackofthecopyrightbots]

"its good from memory" lol no further enforced by him questioning if one more day is good

[@matthewstooksbury]

Mason’s taste in robins is top notch. Tim is, in my humble opinion, the best robin

[@nyspawn9332]

Facts, he’s the best!

[@li-limandragon9287]

I like Carrie Kelly.

[@thecollector4332]

Dick>Tim>Jason>Damian

[@elderrusty541]

@@thecollector4332 in terms of overall characters Dick is the best, but as ROBIN, no one bests Tim

[@thecollector4332]

Elder Rusty True. But as a character, I think dick is the best one of dc.

[@DarkachuWasTaken]

God imagine being superman's mate and you're in a hot as fuck summer and he can just hit you with a chilling breeze

[@PradeepPurple]

18:00 (pins glasses to nose bridge) Um actually.....Kingdom Come is Elseworld and not normal continuity.....😂😂

[@HenryMyles-447]

That’s me! 😂

[@tompollockjr144]

I agree with Mason, Brand New Day sucked. They ruined Spider-Man... making a deal with the devil and reverting everything back to the 70s era. Absolute rubbish.

[@elderrusty541]

Gave up his marriage to save some old bitch that’s gonna die in like 2 years

[@tompollockjr144]

@@elderrusty541 hahahaha.

[@WhiskeyBrewer]

Ah yeah The New 52, where the successfully needed and ballsed up the Image/Wildstorm characters

[@Lynch2507]

There was some cool ideas from the new 52. Like, Doomslayer and Hel has really cool design's

[@paddypowerhughes]

Some of Gail Simone’s example of fringing are somewhat untrue in terms of “using women to develop male characters” she mentions Helena Bertinelis huntress for being sexually abused, that was made apart of her character to be her tragic origin not to develop Batman in anyway

[@ChangedMyNameFinally69]

I think she was talking more of how these characters are genuinely treated

[@TalixZen]

From what I've heard, Jason Todd was killed because a single person wanted him dead and used a robo-caller to vote thousands of times. Correct me if I am wrong.

[@thecollector4332]

You are right.

[@92brunod]

good for him. He created a more interesting story than if he just lived

[@hepchaos]

published in 1988. robo-calling wasn't a thing yet, but the story is 1 guy programmed his macintosh to dial the vote death number every 90 seconds for over 8 hours. that's still only 300 and some votes. with a difference of 79 votes between yes and no, you could say he influenced it, but there was 10's of thousands of votes, so...no. the only reason it was controversial was the mainstream media got a hold of the story and everyone thought it was dick grayson who the writers killed off.

[@MadridHou]

Scott Snyder’s Batman is the only thing worth reading in the new 52 , truly a masterpiece

[@BrandonTschetter]

This Batman dong controversy is probably why DC recently didn't let Bruce go down on Catwoman. "Heroes don't do that".

[@alonelyspaceman]

You better start believing in DONG STORIES, Batman! YOU’RE IN ONE!