MTG - Xathrid Xenograft Halloween “Budget” Combo Casual Deck Tech for Magic: The Gathering!

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TheManaSource

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@crypticmrchimes
@crypticmrchimes 8 жыл бұрын
As a player of Teysa 1.0 in Commander as well as a fan of cleric decks, this pleases me. I love it.
@unaidedpizza
@unaidedpizza 8 жыл бұрын
"were going infinite" these decks find the funniest loopholes in magic I've ever seen.
@spiralhaze2070
@spiralhaze2070 8 жыл бұрын
Original Teysa + Darkest Hour + Blasting station was my jam back in the day with my old casual deck. Good times.
@tammasdexter4291
@tammasdexter4291 8 жыл бұрын
you could put in the 'Gravecrawler + rooftop storm + any zombie creature' combo as another infinite sacrifice outlet
@TheManaSource
@TheManaSource 8 жыл бұрын
HAPPY HALLOWEEN GHOULS AND GHOULETTES! xD
@karlovcg1823
@karlovcg1823 8 жыл бұрын
TheManaSource Can you please make a quick video about the reprints coming in C16
@dethem
@dethem 8 жыл бұрын
curses!
@mrrandomassduck
@mrrandomassduck 8 жыл бұрын
I was really hoping for a worldgorger dragon reanimator deck... The main constituent cards for the Combo were even reprinted this year! ;-)
@chadmcthudgroin7346
@chadmcthudgroin7346 8 жыл бұрын
TheManaSource I'm not quite sure about this, but I don't think tokens actually go to the graveyard. Correct me if I'm wrong.. but that would mean the cleric part if this combo doesn't work. The other one would though, even if this is the case
@joelboismenu-lavoie1070
@joelboismenu-lavoie1070 8 жыл бұрын
Tokens do actually go into graveyards and then cease to exist. So the Rotlung Reanimator would trigger.
@Scrootumm
@Scrootumm 8 жыл бұрын
Since we are talking casual i think some serum visions or preordains would be good since it allows you to dig deeper and search for the combo pieces, also the deck seems more reliable/stable with those included.
@techmage4567
@techmage4567 8 жыл бұрын
It is a budget deck though
@Scrootumm
@Scrootumm 8 жыл бұрын
true but preordain is pretty budgetfriendly, serum visions is expensive tho
@epictrueness
@epictrueness 8 жыл бұрын
I played a variant of this deck about 2 or 3 years ago. I used Xathrid Necromancer in combination with Artifical Evolution to pump up cards like Fallen Angel. Was really fun and this deck seems stronger so I might revisit this madness. ;)
@joeloony
@joeloony 8 жыл бұрын
I love that you do cool videos like this Wedge, keep up the great content
@revengedealer
@revengedealer 8 жыл бұрын
Now this is certainly a crazy deck. Good stuff Wedge :D
@spookymoblin8888
@spookymoblin8888 8 жыл бұрын
Beautiful, Wedge, simply beautiful.
@clauderodrigue5016
@clauderodrigue5016 8 жыл бұрын
Wedge! I love your Halloween deck techs. It would be helpful if when presenting a "casual" deck, you let us know what cards are not modern legal. Thanks so much for the content!
@NicoFireBlood
@NicoFireBlood 8 жыл бұрын
Plays in colors I like and is really awesome, I love that deck!
@mildsatyr3731
@mildsatyr3731 8 жыл бұрын
If this hasn't been said already, Xenograph +Conspiracy +Xathrid Necromancer +Rotlung Reanimator creates an exponential growth of your zombie army that either swarms your enemies or just adds insult to injury.
@Addrum
@Addrum 8 жыл бұрын
Sometimes we need to remember that zombies... are humans too.
@corrosivecabal
@corrosivecabal 8 жыл бұрын
Could be fun in edh. Maybe with Grim Grin as the commander. Phenax, King Macar, Intruder Alarm, Faces of the Past etc.
@donzen9749
@donzen9749 8 жыл бұрын
I like to at least play two counter spells.if I can, in all my decks (I play a lot of blue).Also I love these casual deck techs.
@yellow_jacket3260
@yellow_jacket3260 8 жыл бұрын
Captain Underpants. My Childhood Hero!
@yellow_jacket3260
@yellow_jacket3260 8 жыл бұрын
Also Blasting Station, probably one of my most favorite budget artifacts out there
@kitchentablemtgforums4048
@kitchentablemtgforums4048 8 жыл бұрын
Looks like a fun casual deck
@bradross4152
@bradross4152 8 жыл бұрын
Is it bad that those are all in my Phenax EDH? except for carion feeder.
@shehathnoname
@shehathnoname 8 жыл бұрын
i would love to see more budget combo deck from you!!!!!!! :)
@Listle
@Listle 8 жыл бұрын
Combo decks are my favorite
@spoopyboi1882
@spoopyboi1882 8 жыл бұрын
so if you have all of your necromancers and rotlungs, plus both the enchantments, the feeder, and something to sac, you just go infinite with tokens. so you start this combo on an opponents turn and wreck them. i like this
@sancturillore
@sancturillore 8 жыл бұрын
Actually no. This decks doesn't work with Rotlung. Wedge made a mistake. Here's the rule: 110.5f A token that‘s phased out, or that‘s in a zone other than the battlefield, ceases to exist. This is a state-based action; see rule 704. (Note that if a token changes zones, applicable triggered abilities will trigger before the token ceases to exist.) Basically, the token never makes it to the graveyard.
@RobotKey1
@RobotKey1 8 жыл бұрын
"Note that if a token changes zones, applicable triggered abilities will trigger before the token ceases to exist." Look at that sentence more closely. The Graveyard is a zone.
@sancturillore
@sancturillore 8 жыл бұрын
Green Drab You're missing the point. It's only an "applicable" trigger. For example, if it's something that triggers when something leaves the battlefield, then yes, it triggers. However, the token still never makes it to the graveyard, thus Rotlung's trigger is not applicable and thus doesn't work.
@sancturillore
@sancturillore 8 жыл бұрын
Green Drab No wait, my bad, I just looked up the oracle text of Rotlung and it is changed from "whenever ... is put into a graveyard from play" to "whenever ... dies." So it was just an outdated text. My bad.
@RobotKey1
@RobotKey1 8 жыл бұрын
The token has to change zones. CHANGE zones. Meaning it is in a new zone. The graveyard is a zone. AFTER it hits the graveyard, it disappears. Google it
@spellartificer
@spellartificer 8 жыл бұрын
Shout out to those casual Counter players
@anarchangel2204
@anarchangel2204 8 жыл бұрын
quick question if yu have a conspiracy and xenograph on the table can you have them as human cleric zombie and double up on tokens per sac
@bretlasiter3011
@bretlasiter3011 8 жыл бұрын
would it work to make all creatures shapeshifter so an both zombie generators go off at the same time?
@repeataftermeme75
@repeataftermeme75 2 жыл бұрын
From what I’ve read, Xenograft affects the stack (battlefield) and/or, cards coming into play (battlefield). Let’s say I’m playing a Zombie deck with no/zero Bird Zombies or any other Zombie that has “Flying”, and I already have a bunch of Zombies out in play (battlefield) and I play Xenograft. My choice of “creature type” is “Bird”, does this mean all my Zombies now have “Flying” since all Bird creatures have “Flying” as a static ability?… Yes or No? Keep in mind I haven’t seen every Bird card to have ever existed in MTG, but from the plenty I’ve seen, they all had “Flying.”
@mattg15-dew
@mattg15-dew 8 жыл бұрын
I think smothering abomination would be good in this for dat draw power
@Comedy7788
@Comedy7788 8 жыл бұрын
Hey MS are you planing to review/make deck techs of the new partner commanders?
@TheManaSource
@TheManaSource 8 жыл бұрын
YES!
@eathonhowell7414
@eathonhowell7414 8 жыл бұрын
Similar question, are we about to see a group hug 60 card deck any time soon? Preferably one using standard cards?
@asdrubalvect6328
@asdrubalvect6328 8 жыл бұрын
I prefer the idea of Unlimited Cascade Works for Ydris. Simply put, you set Ydris up to get a enough Cascade triggers on every spell this turn when you smack face with her once (Blade of Selves+Mirror Gallery+Resonator+anything else works GREAT for this)...then you cast Maelstrom Wanderer from your hand and watch the carnage. To quote Despicable Me 2: "I'm sorry, I did not see you there...or there."
@Freelancer6097
@Freelancer6097 8 жыл бұрын
I see myself brewing up a bug edh for this
@WilsonTech-go
@WilsonTech-go 8 жыл бұрын
Demons next year! or something good idk. love these.
@bAd12cheZ
@bAd12cheZ 8 жыл бұрын
I like Xathrid Necromancer 10/10 card
@coolnobodycares
@coolnobodycares 8 жыл бұрын
Turn one conspiracy if you have two dark rituals in hand
@jguitar151
@jguitar151 8 жыл бұрын
do you think diregraf captain would be good in this deck?
@michaelislost7164
@michaelislost7164 8 жыл бұрын
Lots of love and support
@andrelapanne1753
@andrelapanne1753 8 жыл бұрын
do a Breya, Etherium shaper
@havenjb5416
@havenjb5416 8 жыл бұрын
This doesn't work with Rotlung because it says 'is put into a graveyard from play' and tokens don't go into the graveyard.Right?
@soldierofdiablo
@soldierofdiablo 8 жыл бұрын
Haven JB they are seen as going to the graveyard where they disappear
@soldierofdiablo
@soldierofdiablo 8 жыл бұрын
110.5f A token that‘s phased out, or that‘s in a zone other than the battlefield, ceases to exist. This is a state-based action; see rule 704. (Note that if a token changes zones, applicable triggered abilities will trigger before the token ceases to exist.)
@twitchster77
@twitchster77 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks for looking up the official ruling on this! :)
@emeryj3843
@emeryj3843 8 жыл бұрын
It was errata-ed to " Whenever Rotlung Reanimator or another Cleric dies, create a 2/2 black Zombie creature token." Source: gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?multiverseid=39640
@sancturillore
@sancturillore 8 жыл бұрын
wait, so then this means that the combo doesn't work with Rotlung... so what should he be replaced with?
@evodimo5839
@evodimo5839 8 жыл бұрын
Got a question about Rotlung Reanimator. It says: "Whenever Rotlung Reanimator or another cleric is put into the graveyard" are tokens going into the Graveyard or are they getting kind of exiled? I don't know much about mtg, so I was wondering maybe "goes into the Graveyard " is a older term for "Whenever a creature dies"
@dalvarez40
@dalvarez40 8 жыл бұрын
As far as i know they go to the graveyard, but are exiled as soon as they hit it. (More than exiled tokens disapear into the aether, so they just disapear. That's like this because some mechanics that interactuate with exiled cards) Sorry if i made some mistakes, not fluent in english.
@evodimo5839
@evodimo5839 8 жыл бұрын
Damia Alvarez I think you are right. Thanks for the answer!
@sancturillore
@sancturillore 8 жыл бұрын
Actually no. This decks doesn't work with Rotlung. Wedge made a mistake. Here's the rule: 110.5f A token that‘s phased out, or that‘s in a zone other than the battlefield, ceases to exist. This is a state-based action; see rule 704. (Note that if a token changes zones, applicable triggered abilities will trigger before the token ceases to exist.) Basically, the token never makes it to the graveyard.
@sancturillore
@sancturillore 8 жыл бұрын
No wait, my bad, I just looked up the oracle text of Rotlung and it is changed from "whenever ... is put into a graveyard from play" to "whenever ... dies." So it was just an outdated text. My bad.
@devunit2369
@devunit2369 7 жыл бұрын
decklist is no longer available and now generates an error
@georgesmith3687
@georgesmith3687 8 жыл бұрын
Cool deck I'm building it
@nooneatall5612
@nooneatall5612 8 жыл бұрын
Dont the reanimator tokens not go to the graveyard? I didnt know that interaction tbh
@CPD0123a
@CPD0123a 8 жыл бұрын
Tokens go to the graveyard, but then are immediately exiled after going there.
@fallendmr
@fallendmr 8 жыл бұрын
i was really hoping to see worst cards 13 today, it is Halloween after all.
@Thimbrethil
@Thimbrethil 7 жыл бұрын
Wedge, i have a challange for your team :). For the next halloween make G/B budget graveyard deck!
@Danielsworlds
@Danielsworlds 8 жыл бұрын
As a pauper player the phrase we need more combo in our lives triggers me.
@andrewuffelman8344
@andrewuffelman8344 8 жыл бұрын
What is causal modern standard
@veras7927
@veras7927 8 жыл бұрын
This deck is basically just Dead Space.
@threepoint14159265
@threepoint14159265 8 жыл бұрын
Carrion Feeder is too easy to either kill or chump, but other than that this is hilarious.
@simonwilliamson3684
@simonwilliamson3684 8 жыл бұрын
Everytime I see budget it quotes I think it's sarcastic.
@hectorrivera7452
@hectorrivera7452 8 жыл бұрын
What makes this deck "casual"? Can it not be played in like modern?
@bradross4152
@bradross4152 8 жыл бұрын
Hector Rivera the dark rituals.
@ich3730
@ich3730 8 жыл бұрын
Go ahead and try :P The deck isnt modern legal, but could not prevail in the official formats it would be legal in. so its casual, made for play with friends or the kitchen table~
@hectorrivera7452
@hectorrivera7452 8 жыл бұрын
+Brad Ross are they like banned?
@kyojitakenouchi9706
@kyojitakenouchi9706 8 жыл бұрын
Hector Rivera dark ritual, carion feeder, alter of dementia and rotlung reanimator are not modern legal. it's also a slow as hell combo deck with 3 parts and no tutors.
@leegammon1267
@leegammon1267 8 жыл бұрын
is there a way to update it? something simular?
@NightdrifterDK
@NightdrifterDK 8 жыл бұрын
I love this deck xD
@sorenh6659
@sorenh6659 8 жыл бұрын
What are deck building rules for casual. I didn't thing there were any, but it sounds like there is.
@twitchster77
@twitchster77 8 жыл бұрын
I think it depends on who you're playing with to be honest. To be determined by your friends or your playing group. Some people will let you use cards of any set ever printed...some are okay with ignoring banned/restricted lists...others want you to only use modern cards...etc. etc. It just depends on who you're playing with. I do not believe there are any "official" rules as far as casual goes.
@sorenh6659
@sorenh6659 8 жыл бұрын
twitchster77 Thanks
@CPD0123a
@CPD0123a 8 жыл бұрын
By the very definition of Casual play, there is no set of banned or "in rotation" cards. It's just up to whoever you play with. Heck, you can even make rules like "No Storm" or "Infect must deal 15 damage" and stuff like that, depending on what ticks off the rest of the people in the group. That's what makes casual so dangerous, yet fun, though, because one group will be playing high-school level, with decks that are just slapped together from a few boosters and intro decks from Theros block, while another could be playing with decks banned from modern that have cards from Legacy in them to make them even more powerful. By the same time, that's what's awesome and fun about casual---there's an infinite amount of room to deck build and tweak, with much less pressure than competitive play and no "you can't play those cards" rules. Heck, that lower pressure to win by a given turn or to build within set restrictions and banlists are what can make casual the most fun and engaging format. (Only second, possibly, to casual commander)
@johnshea2679
@johnshea2679 8 жыл бұрын
Holy poop you look exactly like ken bone
@derekhunter2656
@derekhunter2656 8 жыл бұрын
I'm surprised Conspiracy works for tokens as well. I get it that they're "cards" but they aren't officially anything until they've hit the field. Play on words I guess. I like the deck, but if you can't get the combo, you're screwed.
@abbadonofhell8940
@abbadonofhell8940 8 жыл бұрын
It says Creature Cards you own that aren't on the battlefield. Everything else just refers to creatures. It's just saying that one part to cover stuff in your deck/hand/exile/sideboard.
@sammiller8681
@sammiller8681 8 жыл бұрын
WEDGE LOW KEY LOOKS LIKE KEN BONE!!!!!!
@lapisrabbitcomics
@lapisrabbitcomics 8 жыл бұрын
LOL Why make a deck teck a day before Halloween? It'd take at least a week to receive all the cards in the mail. I'm just kidding Wedge, I'm being a smartass. Happy Halloween!
@charleslaleff7708
@charleslaleff7708 8 жыл бұрын
wait... are you Ken Bone?
@ty_sylicus
@ty_sylicus 8 жыл бұрын
Pretty cool deck. Not sure why combo decks kind of bore me. Maybe bc I'm just a crayz Timmy who loves death by combat! AAAARRRRGGGHH!
@brothersofthebackrow
@brothersofthebackrow 6 жыл бұрын
Fun fun fun
@paulbbryan
@paulbbryan 8 жыл бұрын
This is so stupid. I love it.
@hoodedcreeper2465
@hoodedcreeper2465 8 жыл бұрын
I remember finding this combo lel
@gavincarpenter2739
@gavincarpenter2739 8 жыл бұрын
ZAMBIES
@ohword620
@ohword620 8 жыл бұрын
Spooky.
@deknof3396
@deknof3396 8 жыл бұрын
u dont make friends with inf. combos thats just lame
@twitchster77
@twitchster77 8 жыл бұрын
PFFFT! Who needs stupid human friends when you've got an infinite hoard of zombies to hang with?
@kamakazi339
@kamakazi339 8 жыл бұрын
deknof who needs friends?
@tastslikchkn
@tastslikchkn 6 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@natoraishido
@natoraishido 8 жыл бұрын
In blue and black, playing a combo deck, with no cheap card draw? There's sorta kinda digging but not anything worthwhile. Needs more Ponder or Skullclamp.
@twitchster77
@twitchster77 8 жыл бұрын
I wish I could have more fun with MTG and enjoy casual decks like this...or I wish I could have more fun in commander building fun decks...instead of being that dick at the table going infinite turn 2 >.
@Fligyn
@Fligyn 8 жыл бұрын
out of curiosity, why of all formats did you choose commander to be competitive in?
@twitchster77
@twitchster77 8 жыл бұрын
Fligyn I live in a very small town and only have 1 shop around (without taking at least a 2 1/2 hour trip). I've never really enjoyed standard and she (the shop owner) only held modern once a month. She did commander each week though so I decided to give that a try.
@twitchster77
@twitchster77 8 жыл бұрын
***** That's my complaint and problem though. I literally do not know how to just kick back and relax. :( /sigh...I guess there's really nothing I can do maybe. I just need to accept it. But when I find people better than me...and are just as cut throat as me...it can sometimes almost make me high haha. I freaking love that...the intensity, the focus...knowing that the other player is playing nothing but the best and I'm just a mistake away from messing everything up. I LOVE that. I love competitive magic. But most people around here are into casual and just having fun...and I'm left frustrated that I can't fit in. Grrrr Kitchen table magic drives me nuts. Casual 'fun' decks that aren't ruthlessly broken make me insane. I just don't get them and I find myself having no fun playing with or against them. Am I just an a** hole? /end epic rant lol
@feritperliare2890
@feritperliare2890 8 жыл бұрын
Hey I really hate so please do the worst cards part 13
@watsondontaable
@watsondontaable 8 жыл бұрын
Wedge Worst cards EVER!!!!
@moltenlava6684
@moltenlava6684 8 жыл бұрын
D Watson what would you replace to make the combo more efficient
@shehathnoname
@shehathnoname 8 жыл бұрын
i think he is referring to the series the wedge does
@moltenlava6684
@moltenlava6684 8 жыл бұрын
OH lol
@ZendikarMage42750
@ZendikarMage42750 8 жыл бұрын
I eagerly await the next episode of that series
@mannyvalero3250
@mannyvalero3250 8 жыл бұрын
love the video but, it's NOT WORST CARDS EVER.
@nickleewright
@nickleewright 8 жыл бұрын
hello... May I put a shameless plug from a fellow mtg player promoting his adorable daughter for the Gerber baby competition? If so I will post the link.
@jacobsmith-gq5qp
@jacobsmith-gq5qp 8 жыл бұрын
wait this isn't the worst cards video
@fallingfever1657
@fallingfever1657 8 жыл бұрын
First
@theunwantedveggietray8476
@theunwantedveggietray8476 8 жыл бұрын
EndermanJosh1 no you aren't.
@fallingfever1657
@fallingfever1657 8 жыл бұрын
Yes I did.
@theunwantedveggietray8476
@theunwantedveggietray8476 8 жыл бұрын
EndermanJosh1 go to newest first then scroll down. That's what I did and you weren't first
@xakuyer
@xakuyer 8 жыл бұрын
Halloween worst cards ever O_o
@CrimsonFox36
@CrimsonFox36 8 жыл бұрын
clunky, slow, and unreliable.
@thrustgenerations
@thrustgenerations 8 жыл бұрын
Crimson Vulpes have you heard of the word fun? if not I think you should look it up.
@tacocookie1015
@tacocookie1015 8 жыл бұрын
Its a causal deck. Chill.
@CrimsonFox36
@CrimsonFox36 8 жыл бұрын
he asked for my opinion. why you hattin'?
@jguitar151
@jguitar151 8 жыл бұрын
so are zombies. its a casual theme deck
@shanehof1022
@shanehof1022 8 жыл бұрын
WORST cards ever
@frostylegend2412
@frostylegend2412 8 жыл бұрын
the worst rare ive ever pulled ever in my time of 8 months playing mtg motorhi djinn 6 mana 5/6 with flying thats it WHO DESIGMNED THIS CARD IT DOESNT EVEN HAVE PROPER STATS 4 A 6 MANA CARDS MUCH LESS A RARE YE SURE IT HYAS FLYING BUT LOOK AT EVERY BIG MONSDTER U WANT U WANT ERITHER A BIG MONSTYER WITH HIGH STATS OR A BIG MONSTER WITH A AWESOME ABILITY OR BOTH BUT 5/6 4 6 MANA WITCH IS A RARE AND ALL IT DOES IS FLY IT HAS NO OP ABILITY IT HAS NOTHING A RARE WITH BAD STATS HIGH COST MANA AND NO ABILITY GREAT JOB PEOPLE WHO MAKE MTG "drops mic" (edit) they cant even make the excuse that this is a old card it came out in origins that was a year and a half ago if im correct
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