Engineering Excellence: Exploring Lucid Air's Incredible Efficiency

[@Renvoxan]

Would have been great if you had talked to Cory, he works at Lucid now. We want Cory again!

[@MunroLive]

We did talk to Cory, just not on camera.

[@who2u333]

I hope he is enjoying the new gig. Lucid seems to be cutting edge like Tesla.

[@JonathanDrake]

@@MunroLive A mention of him would of gone a long way for us early day ML'ers

[@markplott4820]

Cory can take walk off a plank.

[@markplott4820]

​@@MunroLive- wonder why ?....🤔

[@wtmayhew]

Someone in my neighborhood has a Lucid Air. The Air really stands out even at a distance with its graceful fluid lines. Well done.

[@notnotjake]

its an awesome treat every time I see them

[@wtmayhew]

@@notnotjake Thanks for the reply. They’re astonishingly good looking cars, elegant without affectation.

[@photogravity]

@@wtmayhew​​⁠ "…elegant without affectation…" is a great way to describe the Lucid. It has an elegance that is lacking from many other EVs, while at the same time, not being pretentious. I had a Lucid Air Pure on order for close to two years, but when Hyundai released the Ioniq 6 SE RWD, I jumped ship and bought the Ioniq. I do not regret buying the Ioniq as it is a car that reliably delivers what it is expected to do : long road trips in comfort with incredibly fast charging and excellent efficiency. To boot, it cost just a bit over 1/2 what the Lucid would have cost after Hyundai’s incentives on the car. I do, however, still want a Lucid. I like the term he uses in speaking about the "benevolent cycle of efficiency" as a philosophy they use in their design. If wish more manufacturers would think about efficiency, as opposed to dropping in bigger packs to achieve their range targets. I find the Aptera interesting from that perspective since they, similar to Lucid, focus considerable time and energy to aero as Lucid has.

[@wtmayhew]

@@photogravity Thanks very much for your reply - balanced and insightful.

[@frederickfaller899]

$ 177,000.

[@sjsomething4936]

Just under 10 minutes in, I love that ML gives us geeks an insider understanding of the details of car construction and design, like the recent episode on the 48V Tesla electrical system. Kudos to the team, keep it up!

[@casparheyl4353]

The irony that he is talking about aerodynamics and the car has a roof rack with a surf board on it!

[@jghall00]

It's so efficient you can strap stuff to it and still get good range!

[@VaskaDenisov-m5x]

This is optional, included in some versions to increase downforce. For a reasonable fee, a specialized center will remove it for you.

[@tarstarkusz]

They are losing 230 THOUSAND Dollars on every vehicle they sell. That is the ONLY thing worth talking about. Soon, you're going to be in the same situation as Fisker.

[@VaskaDenisov-m5x]

@@tarstarkusz There is no need to repeat after those who stupidly divide the total operating costs of a company by the number of units of production.

[@tarstarkusz]

@@VaskaDenisov-m5x They are burning through capital. Yes, dividing the costs vs the revenue is the right way to do it.

[@teitpoulsen7183]

Love the Lucid tech. It's really well thought thru. Only significant challenge is to drive down the cost so it can be attainable for many more customers

[@jghall00]

That will come with scale up of production. Higher efficiency will mean smaller batteries, which are a huge cost driver.

[@budgetaudiophilelife-long5461]

🙋‍♂️THANKS PAUL,JAMES AND THE MUNRO TEAM FOR SHARING THIS 🤗💚💚💚

[@gregcavanaugh6259]

Something worth mentioning that often gets overlooked when it comes to packaging/3 row vehicles is that unless you are buying a minivan or full size suv, most 3 row vehicles don't even have enough space for the stuff of the occupants, but with an electric vehicle, the frunk really changes that and makes smaller 3 row vehicles much more practical.

[@lemongavine]

Yes. Model X frunk is a game changer

[@Miata822]

See the video of 7 adults and all their luggage getting out of a Gravity. It's amazing.

[@SmartMart1658]

Fascinating stuff. Great interview. Can't wait to see the Gravity on the roads being driven by customers. When will Lucid start making RHD cars for the UK & other RHD markets?

[@bob808]

I'd like to know too! Even if Gravity comes in RHD, we'll have to wait for LHD launch models / pre-orders to be built first.

[@FuzTheCat]

"Smaller on the outside" ... Some next level Tardis tech there ...

[@peterdrury5627]

But much quieter, of course!

[@KenLord]

which is why they have notoriously bad head room.

[@freeaccess5905]

It is so refreshing to have Paul do these videos. He reports on the great technology that other manufacturers are doing in contrast to some of the others at ML that focus only on Tesla.

[@vipahman]

Lucid is amazing with its level of detail to engineering with efficiency in mind. I will buy the Gravity when it is released. Please tear it down Munro!

[@markplott4820]

TESLA model 3 RWD LR is most Efficient CAR in the World.

[@Lando_Sage]

​@@markplott4820 I can't believe after 2 years, you're still out here spreading misinformation. Aren't you tired already? 😂

[@markplott4820]

@@Lando_Sage - dont YOU have a pig pen to Wallow in ?

[@Lando_Sage]

@@markplott4820 wow, why be so offensive? The truth hurts that much?

[@markplott4820]

@@Lando_Sage - you should have a look at what Loocid was NOT able to achieve , thats is your Truth. and they are OLDER than Tesla ever was. but , in 2024 its cars are built too Expensive , and too Expensive to buy, Meanwhile TESLA model Y (#2) was almost #1 CAR in the USA Q3 2024, Tesla model Y outsold the F150 ICE Truck, and Before that #1 CAR Globally in 2023. to date Loocid still has not made HOME battery or GRID storage. Tesla has Megapack factory in Lathrop & building one in CHYNA. IF Loocid were any good, why NOT #1 LUXURY car in CHYNA , and not TESLA ?

[@dittocopys]

Love how excited he is to talk about it

[@frederickfaller899]

Compared to their CEO

[@dittocopys]

@@frederickfaller899 how does the ceo talk about it?

[@jlford30]

Great interview! It's nice to peek under the hood and see the 'bones' of a vehicle.

[@MunroLive]

We have more videos with Lucid coming soon!

[@electricvehiclesug256]

Lucid is for sure good at packaging and making effecient cars which will help alot in their next generation budget cars

[@oldman1944]

Love the exterior design of these vehicles.

[@saltyfish5244]

Great interview! Hoping Lucid gravity can be imported to Japan!

[@CURZONDAVID]

Incredible attention to detail, incredible cars. The most impressive that I could see was how tiny the motor and drive assembly is. But it’s all dependent on them actually surviving. I hope they do.

[@amjads8971]

I myself has moved from Tesla to Lucid. Driving Tesla after sitting in Lucid makes me feel bad why I was driving that horrible car😅. But hats off to both engineering teams for creating iconic EVs

[@PeteLenz]

Very nice reporting! I’ve ridden in, not driven one, seems like a paradigm shifting vehicle, akin to the Lexus LS in the ‘90’s

[@gregcollins3404]

I love the accurate, precise wording of these engineers!

[@karenrobertsdottir4101]

I'm actually annoyed by this video. 34 minutes long, and what exactly did we learn? "The battery pack is sloped, not a box" and "we did a good job on packaging, but we're not going to say why".

[@shazam6274]

Mostly bloviating "word salad"

[@weschapman5041]

The Citroën DS had a concave belly pan to create suction that increased with speed. Consequently its weight INCREASED with speed. The slightly flat front license plate section created an air-dam that then caused a suction into the horizontal radiator air intake immediately which are flanked by air intake ducts for the front inboard disk brakes. Come on Munro go analyze the DS and imagine it now being electric! These are not new tricks! The most creative thing I see is the duct for cooling the LED headlights. No light does not produce heat contrary to much discussion. It a matter of cooling the heat sink rather than the filament. Nice to see this attention to detail. The split of the radiators reminds me of the split turbo intercoolers of the Renault Turbo Fuego. The power train is a gem and the subsequent efficiency and range. Just waiting to see how it survives!

[@Miata822]

Great interview. I do hope we get to see other interviews with the engineers of the power units and batteries at least. I hope you had a chance to talk to the software tuning and control people. That part of today's 'software defined vehicles' is a critical and often overlooked segment. Lucid's tuning of the suspension and power delivery on my Air GT truly sets it apart from anything else that I have ever driven.

[@robertt1336]

Kudos to Lucid for leading in efficiency! These are things people would brag about over tesla, but they’re being passed

[@usefulrandom1855]

It is twice the price roughly though so hardly a fair comparison.

[@userscott]

Not only is it twice the price, but Tesla sell in an hour what Lucid sell in a year. 😂

[@deltajohnny]

The cars are a work of art 😍😍 I hope they survive 👍👍

[@Miata822]

Backed and majority owned by a trillion dollar fund, there's no reason to think they won't survive. Of course there are many Tesla fans who jump to say that isn't so 🙂

[@deltajohnny]

​@@Miata822 Thank you very much for the information, and I hope that they continue in business so that in the future I can purchase here in Spain a not so expensive SUV or a car from another manufacturer using their technology 😁

[@UsAlbanianz]

Lucid is the future ✔️

[@sanderverh6882]

have you seen their financial balance sheet? Everything points towards them not making 2028.

[@Jewzi123]

⁠@@sanderverh6882 The Saudis are supporting them , even Tesla needed support until they lunched 3 , lucid will lunch an equivalent model then it would be profitable .

[@dcl97]

100% going bankrupt. Tesla was a publicly traded company with a ridiculous valuation, billions of investor cash, and CEO who had a mythical cult of personality when the 3 launched. Lucid has some spectacular engineering, but they aren't surviving without some sort of deal with a legacy automaker like Rivian did.

[@UsAlbanianz]

@@dcl97 Never be 100% or say 100% if thats the case bet your house in it. With that being said that tells me your not or never was tesla investor in the beginning. I was since 2013 and still holding long but till now tesla was rollacosts and the hate it was similar to your if not way worst, even now they say tesla will crash and burn 😂 Now the world will change and you have to move with it but time is the key, as long as the company is doing progress temporary might tank until surprise comes hint “Amazon” you remember bavk from 136 down yo 6. Stay strong 💪 all the best for all companies that are trying and not giving up. Stay optimistic in life.

[@Cloxxki]

Great that they have that deal with Aston Martin. The mid-size larger scale program is the one being led by ex-Munro Cory.

[@sjsomething4936]

This is great news, I’m really hoping Lucid succeeds, I’d love to own one but I’m not rich and can’t afford to have a Fisker type unmaintainable vehicle in my driveway.

[@Cloxxki]

@@sjsomething4936 If you have a driveway, even an empty one, you're in the top 5% richest of the world, maybe 1% :) We are taught to adjust our income, not lower our ambitions. Recommend reading "Creating Money" by Sanaya Roman to find what is ging to bring you the big bucks, and make it joyful and natural.

[@sageakporherhe783]

The size of that motor is impressive.

[@mrkeopele]

great energy feel to this video, thank you, if we all think of the planet first, wow, so so much more harmonious, it was especially nice to hear him say joule, I've been using that term for a while now, many years, it is a positive view of energy

[@ResumedPausing]

Love the Lucid content!

[@KenBaer]

My wife and I bought the car shown in this video last Sunday. We pick it up tomorrow (Wednesday).

[@MotorCityMoments]

Thanks!

[@MunroLive]

Welcome!

[@peteroffpist1621]

These guys are smart. Lucid is now one in drivetrain, chassi and batteri tech.

[@HillsWorkbench]

Intelligent, well spoken.

[@thedownwardmachine]

500mi is important for people who only want to charge 20-80% and get actual 300mi range. Funny to see all these hater comments. Are they short sellers or Muskovites?

[@markplott4820]

TESLA semi is 500+ miles & only 1.2 kwh/mile Energy consumption , while hauling 82k lbs Gross.

[@MrCarGuy]

I like Musk and Lucid. The two are not mutually exclusive

[@markplott4820]

@@MrCarGuy - not a fan of Looocid or Rivian cash Burn.

[@jghall00]

​@@markplott4820 Tesla did the same early in its history. Before Model 3 production scales it uncertain whether the company would survive.

[@markplott4820]

@@jghall00 - except Loocid is much older than Tesla. in 2024 it's cars still built too Expensive. +$300,000 each car. Tesla model s was already built PROFITABLE. Loocid motors is Unable to ever SCALE.

[@sinoevc]

It's worth noting that when it comes to packing/arranging items in a three-row vehicle, one often overlooked aspect is that, unless you're driving a minivan or a full-size SUV, most three-row vehicles don't even have enough space for passengers' belongings. However, for electric vehicles, this type of fuel has truly made a difference, rendering smaller three-row vehicles more practical. Put another way,

[@nicosilva4750]

Something not stated about the efficiency is the shorter time to full charge with fewer batteries. There are cars that can charge at high speed, but the Lucid finishes sooner because it has fewer batteries (personal experience with the Lucid Air Pure).

[@zeitgeist888]

Great video and impressive company product. Lucid has incredible design and engineering but I hope they can work to a mass market product fast enough to have economy of scale to be profitable before they or the Saudis run out of money. The current line up is great for the tiny few that can afford them but that doesn't make for a long term company success or growth. Good luck Lucid I hope you succeed.

[@g.richardson6883]

I’m rooting for Lucid!

[@thumperoux1528]

Look at that charge port door ! Oh my !

[@jghall00]

Given how efficient its current offerings are, can't wait to see what Lucid brings with a midsize platform.

[@JEP-Tech]

Right away he said aerodynamics is the most important factor to efficiency. This is why the Aptera will be significantly more efficient than any other poduction EV if it makes it to production despite having a less efficient powertrain than Lucid's. Imagine how much better the Aptera could be if it used the same motor as Lucid's and Tesla's 48V auxillary architecture. Maybe one day there will be more cross calibration between these companies.

[@markplott4820]

Aptera is NOT crash safe, any 4 wheel EV is SAFER.

[@JEP-Tech]

@@markplott4820 We don't know the crash safety yet. Most likely it will be less safe than other modern 4 wheel EVs, but it's far safer than a motorcycle and will most likely be safer than many used older cars people still drive around in.

[@jarretta2656]

It looks bad (worse by far than a cyber truck), has little room, and is less safe. It also looks like it’s less comfortable… I can’t say I’m a fan of it.

[@markplott4820]

@@jarretta2656 - Cybertruck is outselling JEEP gladiator, & SAFEST truck you can buy

[@TheReal_JG]

​@@jarretta2656All things considered, it looks like the Aptera has slightly more cabin space than the Tesla Cybercab.

[@AbdulHannan-uv6ym]

This looks amazing

[@Stan0619]

Best show on earth

[@planet_me_]

I love driving my Air around. Only down side is the tires are pretty expensive...

[@AMomcilo1]

Finally, a video about the best EV maker in the World!

[@oj9886]

When is Munro coming. I am looking forward to him fauning over the lucid tech ! He needs to give them the same credit br gives Tesla

[@Cloxxki]

All I wish from Lucid is to offer an Air-State estate car. The Gravity might do a lot of the job I need a wagon to do, but it'd be interested to see Lucid optimize a wagon boot for space AND drag somehow.

[@dmcarstensen]

Videos and pictures don't do the Lucid justice. I've seen one in my neighborhood and damn it's an impressive looking car.

[@4rwayner7]

What effect would ditching the side mirrors have on cda?

[@sjsomething4936]

Was wondering the same. Given that we’ve got self-driving cars now I feel like we could go to small cameras only with interior screens instead of side mirrors. Perhaps if the regulators feel they are still desirable in an emergency, have the physical mirrors stowed in the trunk and capable of being fastened into place should the camera malfunction.

[@4rwayner7]

@@sjsomething4936 I saw a review of a car that had the camera/screen in addition to the mirror. It’s government controlled.

[@4rwayner7]

@@sjsomething4936I drove away in my ID4 one night and was several miles down the road when I realized my mirrors hadn’t opened up from the folded in position which is automatic when shutting off the car. I tried several things to get them to open out. I couldn’t just pull on them. It really scared me.

[@sjsomething4936]

@@4rwayner7 yes, for whatever reason regulators seem to be clinging to mirrors. Unfortunate about the ID.4, I assume it did get fixed. It’s kind of funny really, there’s quite a bit more that can go wrong with physical elements that require actuation like the folding mirrors than a camera system, and being able to simply fasten the old-school mirrors kept in the trunk if the camera fails for some reason seems like a good alternative, would reduce gas emissions on ICE vehicles and provide additional range on EVs.

[@sarkaranish]

@@sjsomething4936 for a good reason. Mirrors work and the minor increase in efficiency is not worth the risk of not having a mirror.

[@DuulHomes]

ya'll need to tear down one of them Gravity...

[@shazam6274]

They might be available in a year, currently there are only a few "show cars"

[@Mobile_Dom]

i wuld love for Lucid to sell their battery modules and inverters to DIY hobbyists or shops, those battery modules would make conversions killer.

[@Miata822]

I've asked, but I suppose we'll have to wait for 'enthusiastic' owners to wrap a few around trees :-)

[@phillyphil1513]

re: "i wuld love for Lucid to sell their battery modules and inverters to DIY hobbyists or shops". well i'm sure you would love that (we all would) but since you don't control the "Means of Production" of anything like in the context of say an Aston Martin...? when it comes then to having "ready access" to Lucid's engineering talent and IP (Intellectual Property) as a Consumer without paying the FULL price for what it's worth (which doesn't just mean the price in terms of Money but also the price in terms of years of Education, Work Experience, and Reputation) from now until Eternity, the policy towards laymen and DIY guys must always be "NO PREMIUM TECHNOLOGY FOR YOU...!!!" - Larry Thomas speaks from the Soup kitchen.

[@Mobile_Dom]

@@phillyphil1513 jesus fuck who shat in your coffee and called it hot chocolate, fuck face

[@desobrien3827]

I do not think an electrical engineer gives a crap about aerodynamic efficiency...from 2:30 to 5:15 Paul is thinking just shoot me...watch his expression & eyes! Paul is dying to talk "electron efficiencies"! Great patience Paul!

[@bharathrajjayaraman]

Efficiency is a product of aero along with powertrain efficiency and other factors also, can you have another detail session speaking about that

[@jdawg5960]

'lucid is a great car its available we can take you right down to the studio' Pauls like hahahaha i would have to sell my house

[@johnbuchman4854]

As someone who is 6'4" tall, with a long torso, it is very apparent to me that these Lucid cars have very little headroom (unless you are quite short).

[@shazam6274]

For all product designers: "Perfect" is the enemy of "Good". Chasing the exquisite aerodynamic, minutia of the Lucid is why even at nearly $ double, or so, the price of the competition has resulted in a $ loss of in 6 figures for each one made to date. Pure Irony: the example cited of saving electricity by turning off the lights at home on departure vs power consumed by an EV is laughable, because the displayed roof racks, and items strapped to them, totally negate all the meticulous details of Drag reduction in the design of the car. I've personally seen the motor and differential gearbox at the LA auto show and it is a masterwork of engineering! Unfortunately few, if any, Lucid customers care.

[@Miata822]

The base model Lucid Pure at $69k costs less than a base model Model S and has longer range.

[@4rwayner7]

To be fair the roof rack is an accessory for occasional use when you have to use the car like a van or truck. The lower noise with a low cda may be more important than fuel saving. The cost is in engineering and thus amortized over all cars produced. Creating the parts is pretty much the same for good or bad aero.

[@shazam6274]

@@Miata822 Oh, so that's why they sold so many! By the way, Tesla make a nice profit on each "S" sold, how much profit does Lucid make? (hint" they loose 100s of thousands on each car!)

[@shazam6274]

@@4rwayner7 The irony of discussing the minutia of drag reduction under the shadow of the loaded roof rack (and a bike on the Gravity video) must have escaped them. According to their Financial Statements, the cost of each car is hundreds of thousands more than the selling price. If they sold >10x as many, they'd still lose money.

[@4rwayner7]

@@shazam6274 you are trying to say the fabrication of each car is hundreds of thousands dollars? That’s delusional. You don’t have a clue what the cda of a bicycle or rack or kayak is. When towing a trailer with a pickup it only halves the efficiency with weight and aero losses.

[@PMcKay00]

Lovely car. Radiators on the front corners seem vulnerable. How much mud does it take to clog up the active grille shutter?

[@KnowledgeFromTheTop69]

a whole video of someone not sure about every word he’s saying, "what we’re talking about is water, specifically how wet it is, water flows along a path of least resistance, we want to maintain the degree of wetness you experience when getting wet with our water

[@Ed-jg3ud]

Where’s Cory! I thought for sure you’d give him a cameo. Come on Munro😂

[@michaelpaczynski941]

23 minutes in, love the idea of the vortex tubes for cooling, but what happens to the active aero and vortex tubes when iced up from winter driving in snow? Do they even matter when ideally heat is brought into the cabin.

[@lo_Navy]

the best of everything

[@j4k3br4k3]

The #1 great thing we worked on was aero on this car, it has a CD of 0.19. What about that surfboard strapped to the roof? Oh were just trying to look cool.

[@markplott4820]

STOCK plaid s is more aero.

[@azizmarz]

@@markplott4820not true

[@lassikinnunen]

@@markplott4820 it could have better aero while having higher cd, If the area is smaller. One can play games with the numbers.

[@markplott4820]

@@azizmarz - FACTS.

[@markplott4820]

@@azizmarz - whats also TRUE ? Loocid is NOT profitable & has massive DEMAND problem.

[@rk-xv4km]

#1 mass #2 power train #3 airfoil City driving 25mph to 35mph airfoil is near zero importancd. Highway speeds yes it is important. Work = force thru a distance. Force = mass x acceleration. Q.E.D.

[@jghall00]

But range isn't an issue for local driving. Most EV owners charge at home, especially at this price point.

[@krisvandermeulen253]

The car is beautifully engineered and designed yet it it lacking the many iterations needed to lower the production cost. Thus the car has a low(er) marging and they'll struggle to get profitable (as a company) soon. This is even more important as the demand for these cars is not large enough!

[@frederickfaller899]

$$$$$$ price

[@outsider2689]

If a vent cools the headlights, what happens in Los Angeles with bumper to bumper traffic?

[@iandavies4853]

Wot - are you saying theory doesn’t match reality? Couldn’t we just tweak the CGI?

[@Cloxxki]

Look how slender the headlights are. They made an extra effort there, and every car gets a huge frunk because of it.

[@Resist4]

Now if only Lucid can fix their stock price! But I want a Lucid yet worry about the lack of service centers, just like with Tesla. I do like the how many miles per minute of charge idea. That is exactly what consumers want to know!

[@Miata822]

I've had mine for two and a half years. Live in Dallas area w/ nearest service in Houston, several hours away. Local service truck has visited me several times to check simple recalls on my early car and make a few adjustments. One recall needed shop service so they made an appointment to pick up my car and leave a loaner. Service has been first class and flawless.

[@Resist4]

@@Miata822 Tesla service used to be amazing too in the beginning, not anymore.

[@journeyman291]

Absolutely fascinating. But these old ears didnt like the low volume

[@markplott4820]

I as MUNRO subscriber ,I did not appreciate the BS from Loocid "engineer".

[@phillipyoung3250]

Interesting to note that the car is glued together with structural adhesive. He addressed the subject head on. Any engineers see issues with this?

[@CURZONDAVID]

It’s been common practice since the 1990s. Check out Lotus Elise for example.

[@iandavies4853]

Exactly. "Curing ovens" - is Tesla requiring same, it’ll be impossible for unboxed process as almost last step. Just leave entire car out in Texan / Nevadan sun for few hours.

[@tabbycat8511]

“A large, electric SUV that didn’t pay much attention to efficiency” That would be the Ford F-150 Lightning he’s talking about. C’mon, just say it! 😺

[@dalex6641]

Nice advertorial as Lucid goes for a round of share dilution

[@Anthony__420]

Wish the gravity was available now. Tesla buying back my X as it’s a lemon and wanted a gravity. Wonder though if it’s being built with NACS or still need adapters as CCS is unreliable

[@markplott4820]

Gravity is just another DOG for Loocid.

[@eugeneputin1858]

I think they mentioned itll have nacs on release

[@markplott4820]

@@eugeneputin1858 - assuming gravity even gets produced.

[@KevinT3141]

​@@markplott4820Short sell much?

[@Miata822]

pre-production now, I hope to start seeing them next month. There will be a rush though. Many ready to jump on it. Fully loaded models will probably roll out first.

[@MelahdGibson]

This Lucid representative knows what he is talking about which is refreshing. But the only thing is the software is a major part of the car's efficiency as well, but that is not his expertise.

[@amjads8971]

Glad to see you guys come out of the shell and only exploring Tesla. Lucid is way more advanced technology compared to Tesla

[@MunroLive]

We have tons of videos on Ford, Rivian, Hyundai, etc…

[@userscott]

Tesla make up at best a small proportion of their videos, so that’s not true. As for advanced technology - are you sure? Lucid have sold a handful of vehicles and the evidence is actually that they’re not in any way more advanced. Could you share with us how you feel they are in fact so?

[@livingon2wheels]

I lost almost $20K on LCID but I still like the cars and the engineering.

[@riconeu873]

Maybe some day one or two customers will find out by their own🤣

[@KenLord]

This is hilarious. Lucid explaining to Munro Live how to design everything for maximum efficiency, showing all these details of how great their designs and manufacturing are. How they're doing it all right ... when we all know that just back in May they were losing $400,000 on every car they sold.

[@frederickfaller899]

It’s not good if they don’t survive

[@mrkeopele]

which bike is on top of the pictured car at 27:33

[@hanswitvliet8188]

Charger stations should all have megapacks, and be covered with solar panels.

[@Digital-Dan]

Most beautiful cars.

[@SamFigueroa]

Has the UI on the internal screens been improved upon? The last reviews I saw seemed quite laggy. Haven't done a test drive myself yet. I'll need to try that if they offer some in my area.

[@Today_I_Want_To]

Yes model 2025

[@Miata822]

Constant OTAs have vastly improved performance and added features.

[@SamFigueroa]

@@Miata822 Thanks. Good to know.

[@OweEyeSea]

I can't explain why, but I find their design elegant and beautiful, but incredibly boring at the same time. And the impressive engineering that goes into the "incredible efficiency" at the expense of production efficiency is a disappointment. It's like throwing away dollars to save pennies. And the world can't benefit all that much from this efficiency when you can only produce and sell 600 of these a month. Tesla may not be quite as efficient, but they've replaced over 5 million ICE vehicles. Lucid only tens of thousands.

[@shazam6274]

Lucid has sold 5,766 EVs through the end of the 3rd quarter this year, ~ 640 / month. Source: KBB

[@zilogfan]

The most lucid question is who gets their tech and patents for pennies on the dollar when they are bankrupt, sadly

[@4literv6]

The Saudis or Chinese of course. Lucid has burned up over $15,000,000,000 so far for less than 40k cars. And rivian has torched over $21,000,000,000 for less than 110,000 units so far sold.

[@WiseWik]

Lucid drops 14% in a day. Munro: guess I'll release a PR video 🤷

[@slates010]

Buy a lucid so they don't go bankrupt lol

[@KeijonAutoVuokra]

Nobody is getting them for pennies on the dollar. What do you think the saudis are paying for?

[@Frisian-eh2wm]

@@4literv6the money they’re burning is mostly Saudi.

[@O-cDxA]

1990 Toyota Celica front end mixed with 1990s Mercury Sable styling. ( Not a bad thing actually ! )

[@jarrodf_]

Lucid makes the best EVs on the market

[@4rwayner7]

Because this video is so aero oriented can someone discuss a comment that was made on the State of Charge channel TM stated that with an identical headwind and tailwind the tailwind wouldn’t have as much effect. It seems with most cars the cda would be much higher from the back than the front and be the opposite of what was stated. It was a 70 mph range test round trip.

[@Miata822]

Tom Moloughney just discussed and demonstrated the opposite. I think you misunderstood him. He said it would equal out due to travelling the same distance in each direction, but ultimately have a negative impact.

[@4rwayner7]

@@Miata822 No. At approximately the 35 minute point of the video he specifically states that you won’t get back the same efficiency effect with the tailwind as lost with the headwind. That’s why I asked. I wanted an aero/engineering comment and not a fan rebuttal. I am a fan of Tom’s but he occasionally makes off-the-cuff comments not based on engineering or technical knowledge. I watched a second time to be sure what he said and get the time stamp.

[@jghall00]

He said an equivalent tailwind won't show up in energy consumption as an equal headwind. His trips are both directions, so any benefit from tailwind is partially offset by headwind but it's not a one to one impact, so the efficiency observed was real and not the result of beneficial wind direction.

[@4rwayner7]

@@jghall00rewatch it

[@zapfanzapfan]

So, if it so efficient, how much does the range decrease with a horse box or a caravan? Does it become a third?

[@jghall00]

Depends on the shape and frontal area. I lose half my mpg with my travel trailer. Same with an EV, it's just physics of overcoming aero drag.

[@zapfanzapfan]

@@jghall00 Very limited drive through charging stations so far though. Maybe it can't tow anyway.

[@jeffforbess6802]

Resale shows a car’s value. The market, with tax-dollar inflation removed, is speaking loud and clear about EV “solutions”.

[@kevinlucas8437]

Amazing interview !!! Love what Lucid is doing. Unfortunately, they went high-end and didn't make a more affordable version. If they would've have built a version in $50k to $60k range and sold a bunch to get started, then come out with a luxury version. But at $160k, the average family isn't able to afford that. I hope they survive, but they need to pivot with a more affordable version.

[@evarlast]

Do you realize the Air Pure starts at $69,900?

[@wtmayhew]

I wonder how adversely the roof rack affects aerodynamic efficiency?

[@FlorentHenry]

30:20 if you're truly worried about the grid load, make electric bikes instead of large cars

[@bArda26]

I'd lease one but I don't like the company ownership but still considering..

[@PedroNord]

Now if only they could make a reasonable number for a reasonable price and a reasonable profit. BTW, as the number of jokes about “Gravity” continue to accumulate and gather mass, we can only speculate who in the company with such a morbid sense of humor dropped that name in the suggestion box.

[@HourRomanticist]

I see a lot of unnecessary overhead

[@SyntheticSpy]

One I noticed was how their solution to the radiator taking up frunk space was to install two radiators. Surely that complicates everything and drives up cost?

[@CURZONDAVID]

Life is a compromise. You choose what gives,right ?

[@jamesengland7461]

Hey Lucid! Monetary efficiency is a thing, too, and could save your company from its drunken spending.

[@Miata822]

Sure, they could cut back on service personnel and parts inventory like Tesla does, but they don't.

[@zodiacfml]

would have been nice if they shared more new info about the Gravity. All these info already available from their youtubwe channel. Lucid likely would find more success with the Air now that Tesla has too much on their plate, unlikely to update the Model S permanently.

[@WiseWik]

Adhesive is a zipper, until it falls apart. At least with a button you can sew it back on...

[@namsmog]

Good software and Self driving technology are what holding back Lucid from competing with Tesla, good mechanical engineering, design and efficiency are not good enough. They need the whole package.

[@danielguzman9061]

I took the trouble to read all the comments, I see a lot of hate from Tesla users. However, I take this as a documentary, a historical record. Think in these years how many attempts were made, how many promises were not fulfilled and vanished. From an engineering point of view it is a tremendous achievement that the model is available to the public. However, remembering the words of an Italian engineer quoting Ferruccio Lamborghini about Bugatti that "it takes an industrialist" and that Elon learned that the hard way, I remember that he wished him the best success because he knows how difficult it is to make everything profitable an operation. I hope they can survive and continue their path of innovation with a different vision than Tesla, that feeds back to both.

[@Miata822]

Elon wasn't from the car or manufacturing world. Rawlinson has spent his entire career running automotive engineering departments from Jaguar to Lotus to Tesla. Lucid won't need the ten years it took Tesla to get rolling.

[@SyntheticSpy]

@@Miata822 The company was initially founded in 2007 and switched to producing cars in 2016 when they changed their name. It is getting very close to a decade, and far beyond depending when you consider the actual start of the company. The point where they first started planning to make a car seems to be around 2014, which lines up fairly well with Rawlinson joining in 2013.

[@iandavies4853]

@@Miata822Rawlinson was with Tesla for first model S. That’s a long time already. Neither is a one man show.

[@apainlessone]

I hope they make it ! They are burning through cash w/ out the Saudi backing.

[@wizzyno1566]

They have saudi backing still...

[@apainlessone]

Correct… my computer cut out before I could finish writing

[@StormyDog]

Lucid is issuing more shares to raise cash and the stock is down >15% so far today on more than 5x normal volume. Not a positive sign.

[@thedownwardmachine]

Unlike GM and Chrysler, who have never taken government money. Cough.

[@markplott4820]

Peter is Khashoggi.