My heart is BROKEN | SUPERMAN: THE ANIMATED SERIES "Apokolips... Now!" Reaction

[@MarcReyes_]

"Goodbye, old friend. In the end the world didn't need a "Superman". Just a brave one." I have not stopped thinking about that quote for 26 years. There's an alternate take of the ending where many of Jack Kirby's creations were in attendance at Turpin's funeral. A lovely tribute to Kirby, the King of Comics.

[@dg-my9pn]

This is the "alternate" ending which is actually the original ending. When this episode first aired it used this ending with Kirby's characters; when the episode was rebroadcast and released on home media the ending was changed to remove the Marvel characters. It wasn't until the series was added to Max that the original ending was added back.

[@chrisdiokno5600]

I never knew that

[@Avenger85438]

As a tribute to Jack Kirby, Dan's funeral is full of cameos by the characters he created even the Fantastic Four and Nick Fury.

[@thedefinitionisthis]

In future airings and DVD releases tho, I think due to copyright, some of the Marvel characters were edited out of the funeral. And for some reason, even the tribute to Jack Kirby at the end was removed as well. However I think they were restored for more recent releases. I could be wrong.

[@jccw227]

@@thedefinitionisthis Yes, I saw it intact on Max

[@Tekkarath]

@@thedefinitionisthis Yeah well Kirby has been erased from comics for years so Stan could act like the rock star of comics. There's a reason a lot of people didn't like Stan.

[@kaybaumann4989]

“In the end the world didn’t need a Superman, just a brave one…” That gets me every time, for decades now. The grave in the sunset and Shirley Walker’s amazing soundtrack just perfectly bring out the emotion. This one of my favorite Superman moments in any media and in the DCAU especially.

[@thedefinitionisthis]

“In the end, the world didn’t really need a Superman… Just a brave one.” Watching this one as a kid, it was definitely mind-blowing to see a main supporting cast member like Turpin killed off. And seeing Superman just pound that tank in anger was heartbreaking to watch. Definitely one of the best eps of the show/DCAU, which cemented Darkseid as THE archnemesis for Superman moving forward. And yes: Maggie Sawyer is gay. 90s kids cartoon meant they couldn’t outright say it, but it was clear that Toby was her partner, which was also the case in the comics.

[@milkiassamuel780]

Dan Turpin's death was so unexpected and heartbreaking as he once was apprehensive of Superman but soon grew to respect him as a loyal friend and ally so seeing Darkseid incinerate him just like that was so tragic and truly shows how much of an uncaring monster Darkseid is since he embodies God of Evil and Entropy, to the point of breaking Superman as we see him breakdown full of rage, hate, remorse and guilt that Dan had to suffer for him. Dan Turpin's character in this show was also based on renowned comic book artist and writer Jack Kirby. I believe Jack Kirby passed away during the debut of this episode, so the showrunners wanted to honour him by offering their condolences to a man who did so much for the comic book industry. You can even see cameos of other characters he made show up at the funeral as very well-hidden Easter Eggs, like the Fantastic Four in civilian clothing (who are part of the Marvel Universe), someone wearing an eye patch (who's meant to be Nick Fury back when the character was white in the comics), and you even see a guy with sunglasses who are intended to be Stan Lee since he and Jack Kirby were partners at one point. They practically created Marvel Comics, and Jack soon left to work at DC Comics. although the two had a falling out, they were still friends who made the comic book industry of Marvel and DC what they are today. Jack Kirby actually created characters like Darkseid and the New Gods as they are this underrated side of DC sort of like a cosmic biblical Game of Thrones drama of these god-like beings that represent good and evil but explore a lot of nuanced and complex themes surrounding family, war, nature Vs nurture with some truly incredible, psychedelic art by Jack Kirby. The flashback of Darkseid and High Father exchanging sons is canon to the comics and while Orion is Darkseid's birth son, where as High Father's birth son is a superhero called Mister Miracle who shows up in the Justice League Unlimited show and has more complex character who grew up under the torment of Darkseids parenting and if you want to learn more about him Id highly recommend Mister Miracle by Tom King as it is one of my favourite graphic novels and a true masterpiece as one of the most complex, realistic character studies written for such an fantastical character as Mister Miracle from DC Comics diving into mental health, suicidal tendencies, and the difference of the nuances of reality and fantasy.

[@thesmilyguyguy9799]

:,)

[@Madbandit77]

Kirby died in 1994, four years before Apokolips Now aired. He was not only a respected comic book illustrator, but an animator as well. He worked on the Popeye cartoons Max and Dave Fleischer produced.

[@jerbearschannel2208]

One of my favorite episodes because Jack Kirby made Dan Turpin a copy of himself. Also Ben Grim from the fantastic 4 was a special character to him

[@lithiumgreen105]

All I can say is: long live the king. Jack Kirby is, hands down, the greatest comic book artist of all time, and these episodes are just a treasure trove filled with his legacy. Even as a kid, I knew that he was something special, and I’m so amazed these episodes have given an entire generation someone to idolize long after his death. And yeah, Darkseid is absolutely heinous. A terrific despotic villain unlike any other, the perfect Jack Kirby creation, perfectly voiced by Michael Ironside. How crazy is the whole son exchange thing, btw? Also, Orion is voiced by DC veteran Ron Perlman. Between Orion, Clayface, and Slade (aka Deathstroke), he’s given us a wide range of vocal performances. Great reaction as always!

[@Madbandit77]

Actually, Perlman voiced Orion in Justice League. The late Steve Sandor (Fire and Ice, Stryker) voiced Orion in Superman.

[@Polymathically]

"In the end the world didn't need a "Superman". Just a brave one." I watched this when it originally aired, along with all the other shows in the DCAU. This is one of the quotes that I remember the most. It wasn't just the fact that this was the first major death in the story; it was the moment when you finally get to see Superman at his most vulnerable, when he couldn't save someone despite all his strength and idealism. It truly set this show apart from other cartoons at the time. And that end card is right; it's not the end. It's just time for the next chapter of a much bigger story...

[@Avenger85438]

To put things in perspective, Darkseid regards Orion as his favourite son. As for Highfathers son, he eventually escaped Apokolips, the only one to ever do so, and is now the hero Mr Miracle, married to a tall and powerful former Fury, Big Barda. So it kinda worked out. Minus the years of physical and psychological torture.

[@robertsims7828]

yeah but Mr Miracle growing up in Apokolips and dealing with Granny Godess was pretty much hell.

[@wolfmantheimpaler]

​@robertsims7828 yeah, but he becomes the greatest escape artist in the DC universe as a result

[@mangalore3]

Orion actually looks a lot like Darkseid. His mother box is capable of 'atom weaving,' so he manipulates his own biology to look like the people of New Genesis. If his mother box ever gets destroyed, he will revert back. Its never shown in the show but their portrayal of the fourth-world characters has been very faithful in every other respect. BTW Steppenwolf is Darkseids uncle.

[@a_fine_edition2746]

That scene made me want to see Darkseid dead more than anything. He’s such a petty, vindictive villain. One last parting shot that crushes your heart.

[@bgvo4373]

Just like Trump.

[@SuRoFo]

Killing Dan wasn't a petty and vindictive act from Darkseid's POV. Dan turned himself into a target when he rallied all those people. Darkseid's MO is to break a person down to nothing. Killing Dan at their moment of triumph is like the perfect stab in the heart.

[@EalainEP]

Turpin was designed after Jack kirby and his prominent eyebrows, in one version of the funeral the members there were designed to resemble the fantastic 4 and Peter parker

[@kaybaumann4989]

Is there any footage of that? I’ve heard this story a few times over the years but I’ve never seen anything then this version.

[@EalainEP]

@kaybaumann4989 I remember clips of it shown on the KZbin channel watchtower database, you might be able to find it with specific searches

[@dg-my9pn]

​@@kaybaumann4989You just watched it; the version on Max has Kirbys Marvel characters. At 22:32 the two blonde characters are Sue and Johnny Storm, the guy woth his arm around Sue is Reed Richards and the guy with the eye patch behind them is Nick Fury.

[@EspanolBot]

Maggie is indeed gay, that was her girlfriend in the comics at the time, but they weren't allowed to outright state as such in the show at the time sadly even if they did confirm it in the DVD commentary or something. Fun Fact: Maggie actually was engaged to Batwoman (Kate Kane, Bruce Wayne's cousin via his mum's brother) for a time, but it kinda fell apart due to editorial mandate/vampires, sadly.

[@CaseyJustice]

“… fell apart due to editorial mandate/vampires.” God, I love comics.

[@lexofpower2822]

@@CaseyJusticeright?! I wanna now say “editorial Mandate/ Vampires” to someone when they ask me why something didn’t happen 😂

[@jccw227]

Long live the King, indeed…

[@serp3n1]

The new gods were an attempt to make a new pantheon of original deity figures specifically for the DC universe, and I really appreciate that even to this day they stay just a conceptually inventive as back in the day. They still feel like crazy Silver Age comic characters in a world that's gotten quite a bit more pragmatic, and that's done a lot to add to how alien they are despite looking outwardly human.

[@alexeysimushov4971]

That what I love about them!

[@phousefilms]

Yup, one of the darkest moments and it caught me so off guard, I was staring for a good two minutes afterwards.

[@fireeaglefitnessmartialart935]

I'm sure most of us were the same the first time we saw it. In a kids show. 90s weren't afraid to show the realities of life.

[@fireeaglefitnessmartialart935]

This episode definitely hits hard, and i first saw this when i was younger. That scene of darkseids omega beams and turpen dying is one of those scene that sticks with you and how darkseid became such a recognizeable character/villain for me. He became one of my favorite villains in dc and comics because you love to hate him but also respect him.

[@larryclowers]

The saddest burden of being Superman is that he can't save everyone.

[@nightwingman666]

Remember this was a Saturday Morning cartoon and they had the bad guy off a character that was on the show from the beginning. Darkseid always has a favortism towards Orion because he slightly respects Orion has a spine unlike Kalibak he may see Orion as his enemy but its more he admires that the son he fights against isn’t a kiss ass like the son at his side. Orion unless you’re a comic book fan you wouldn’t know who he is when he shows up you know he’s at least an alien by the way he looks you’d never suspect that he was the son of someone so evil. As for his Omega Beams the lasers he shoots from his eyes Darkseid can either transport people anywhere he wishes or destroy them outright if he chooses Mannheim and Kalibak had purpose so he let them live but Turpin defied and insulted him and to break the hope of the people he had Turpin killed.

[@fireeaglefitnessmartialart935]

Even as a dictator, darkseid respects strength and opposition. Which is why even in the superfriends show he wanted diana as a queen, and in later shows as the head of his furies, etc.

[@lordmorklen5166]

Jack "The King" Kirby is one of the seminal, most important artists in American comic book history. All those Marvel GOATS like Captain America, Iron Man, Hulk, Fantastic 4, Avengers, X-Men, Black Panther and so many more - he's the man who designed what they look like. Stan Lee and Jack Kirby built what Marvel is today. He also made The New Gods for DC - that's the whole pantheon from New Genesis and Apokolips. Ironically, the whole Fourth World and New Gods series flopped at launch and gained prominence and relevance later.

[@sporf_sporf]

Spiderman wasn't one of Kirby's, that was Steve Ditko, but yeah Kirby was probably one of the most important and influential creators in the history of both major comic companies.

[@sporf_sporf]

Spiderman wasn't one of Kirby's. That was Steve Ditko. But yeah, Lirby was one of the most important and influential creators for both major companies.

[@lordmorklen5166]

@@sporf_sporf yeah, that slipped in there by mistake. My bad.

[@charleslee8313]

I hadn't seen this episode in a great while, but you crying at the end got my crying a bit. Lex wasn't chillin' -- he was observing. Planning ahead. The dedication to Jack Kirby always gets me.

[@petermarvy3218]

Orion is one of those character i kinda want to learn more about, i know he sometimes falls victim to being written as basicaly the worst of the New Gods because he is Darkseid's son, but i always love when they show him as somebody who struggles with his parentage and trying to be better than his father (also, i don't think this comes up in the show, but Orion's face actually looks more like Darkseid's, he just disguises it using Motherbox)

[@Filbi]

I've heard that the Orion series by Walt Simonson was really good.

[@wilmitprosper4857]

There is a channel on KZbin call Comic Origins. One of the videos is about Orion.

[@katt-the-pig]

For a while, I wasn't sure if Turpin was dead, as he was zapped in similar fashion to Kalibak in "Father's Day". But nope, he gone. And I could tell from your appreciation of him at the start of this episode that his death was gonna affect you big. This was the season finale, BTW. I don't know if HBO Max mentions that.

[@dbv8600]

Today was a difficult day for me so I am not up for watching this at the moment. It is tradgic but epic and I am sure I will appreciate your reaction when I am ready. I remember how your opinion on Dan went from bad to good in a previous episode just like mine did and now this happens. Darkseid really is an ultimate villian even when he is forced to back down he still makes it feel like we lost big time. I know this quote has already been repeated but it deserves to be repeated many more times! "Goodbye, old friend. In the end the world didn't need a "Superman". Just a brave one." One normal man can make a difference no matter how hopeless it seems and that is a GREAT lesson to apply to modern life!

[@jerbearschannel2208]

Jack Kirby was the person who created half of the Marvel characters with Stan Lee . He went to work for DC after a fallout. He created Darkside and Thanos

[@Madbandit77]

Thanos, a rip-off of Darkseid, was created by Jim Starlin.

[@spencernaugle]

He created Darkseid and all of the New Gods. He also co-created Captain America. So he created the most evil character and the most good character in comic books.

[@jerbearschannel2208]

@ I know he worked on this show

[@mmxxiii9503]

This 2 chapters.... Darkseid is a true menace 7:50 Orion is referring to another source, the most complex source of information. 23:15 Darkseid and the "New Gods" are his creations. His works are not limited to DC but also worked with Marvel comics

[@NKO_lindo]

which is fandomcom on the cellphone

[@Nelson_Win]

Anti-Life Equation

[@eingoluq]

NEAT FACT: Jack Kirby who created the New Gods originally wanted these gods to be a reincarnation of the Norse Gods from Marvel. After Ragnarok, a New cycle would begin anew, and create the New gods, and the 9 realms, would become just Apokalypse and New Genesis. But Marvel did not want to kill of Thor. So he took his idea to DC and the rest is history. This explains Orion's red hair BTW. In Norse mythology Thor supposed to have red firey hair, not blond. so Orion is technically a reincarnation of the Proto-Indo-European God, Perkwunos(Donnor, Thor). High Father is a reincarnation of odin the All father. The Furies are a reincarnted Valkyries, Baldur became Lightray, Surtur and Loki became Darkseid, Lady Sif became Big Barda, Malekith became Desaad, Mimir became Metron, etc etc. At the time, the New Gods were very successful and influenced many creatives. George Lucas for instance took ideas from it and created some Star Wars lore: -"Darkseid" became "The Dark Side" -"The Source" became "The Force" -and the reveal that Orion was Darkseid's son is similar to the reveal that Darth Vader (literally meaning Dark Father) was Luke Sky Walker's son. Darth Vader is even burnt over his body like Darkseid.

[@yoga_bear.]

22:30 reed richard, sue storm, and nick fury cameo.

[@rogertemple7193]

Glad to see you back with more of Superman and this episode with Apokolips is gonna be great. Have a beautiful week thanks Meg. 🗨️🦸🦹🗯️

[@parkerboy795]

Suffice to say, Darkseid plays for keeps.

[@ChadBenjamin]

Joker and Darkseid are 100% pure evil actually. Lex and Brainiac on the other hand have been shown to have nuance, especially Lex. Talking about their comic book versions specifically.

[@andre1999o]

The lore behind Apokolips is so cool!

[@Filbi]

"There came a time when the old gods died!"

[@2323stickboy]

“The brave died with the cunning. The noble perished, locked in battle with unleashed evil. It was the last day for them. An ancient era was passing in fiery holocaust.” To this day, still the single greatest page in comic history. Jack Kirby’s limitless imagination was only rivaled by his remarkable talent. There will never be another. That said, the work Phillip Kennedy Johnson has been doing to expand the cosmic mythos in the DC universe has been so good so far and I can’t wait to see what he has planned next.

[@mattschottroff9076]

Needed these episodes today.

[@nedzed3663]

Jimmy, seriously, why are you smiling? This is a legit extinction level event going on

[@charleslee8313]

He's thinking about the Pulitzer

[@nedzed3663]

@charleslee8313 Lol. Like "there's an apocalypse going on, but goddammit, I'm getting my book deal out of this"

[@katt-the-pig]

Pulitzer, or pulverizing?

[@brandonangstman]

No, I believe Jimmy just had faith Superman would stop the bad guys. Jimmy is kind of an optimist.

[@roderick8167]

RIP Dan Turpin , he was a loud hothead but he had a good heart and he cared for his fellow human beings to his last dying breath and if you can inspire Superman who is known for being the beacon of hope and inspiration then you're definitely at least a alright decent person, also RIP to Jack Kirby truly Long Live the King 👑🙏 🕊️

[@brandonangstman]

Jack Kirby like Dan Turpin was an American hero, he was a ww2 vet and a survivor of D-day, when his commanders learned he was a comic artist they made him an army scout and sent him to recon enemy territory and draw maps of the areas for them. He was the king of comics, and a truly great man, my favorite story about him is how the inkers for his comics would get pissed at him because he made their jobs more difficult by drawing in minute details to his pictures which added hours of extra coloring for them to do.

[@josearnaldollerena]

Only a few episodes and you'll be in the next crossover! Remember :Batman episodes Ultimate Thrill and Over the edges. Animal act too if you care about the chronology

[@SellavinAtoms]

I watched this on TV as a kid.I didn't know how emotional was until I got older!!.

[@wolfmantheimpaler]

This is an example of why Superman often winds up *HATING* Darkseid, like "driven to murderous rage" levels of hatred, because Darkseid will always try to take from you, even if you have some sort of victory, he'll sour it by killing your friend

[@tornadochaser2457]

I remember watching an interview where Bruce Timm said of all the villains he has (in the DCAU), Superman easily hates Darkseid more than anyone.

[@wolfmantheimpaler]

@tornadochaser2457 considering everything Darkseid has done to him, I'm not surprised

[@tornadochaser2457]

@@wolfmantheimpaler I remember him jokingly saying in the interview, "You can talk about any other Superman villain, and he'll be fine, but mention Darkseid, and he'll instantly get grouchy". Sounds simply true to be honest LOL.

[@davidpumpkinsjr.5108]

I really hope you continue with Batman Beyond and Justice League.

[@rogersmith-ez2cq]

The likeness of Jack Kirby was used for Dan Turpin

[@AndyDandyMandy]

I've been waiting for you to get to this one for awhile.

[@Nelson_Win]

I've been waiting for this and this broke my heart again.

[@Mrcryptidsarereal]

I literally discovered your reactions to STAS yesterday, looked at the playlist and wondered "When is she gonna reach Apokolips Now"?. Prayers answered.

[@borjankosarac3645]

The timing of this, released within a day of the US putting a monster that by all rights shouldn’t have gotten into the Presidency at all back into power… Meanwhile, our friend Dan Turpin shows us how we must never quail to these villains; we must stand up even as they would have us believe them unstoppable before them. BTW, they couldn’t explicitly state that Maggie Sawyer is a lesbian but they did have her partner from the comics at the time at her bedside.

[@jessiegreen619]

Darkseid was crate by Jack Kriby and at end before took it out had 3 of FF Nick Fury Iron man and Cap all Jack draw we still feel ishis and Dan losse 25 years later.

[@cje499]

Ah, the episode that solidified Darkseid as my #1 DC villain

[@RockinAfr0]

One of the things I remember from Darkseids first big appearance here is his sheer nonchallantness. He doesn't use his arms to punch immediately like some other villains. He can and will use them if he has to, but he doesn't see it as necessary, even against superman. This is the quintessential version of Darkseid for me because of that. Yeah, and Turbin dying here is just so damn sad... really made me sad when you said you liked him so much, knowing what was coming :(

[@kryshunter]

I was in denial when this came out too.

[@Swenglish]

Unfortunately, they couldn't get much past the network s&p at the time, but yes, that was indeed Maggie's partner (and not in the cop sense). A fact confirmed by the show creatives, and also aligned with the source material. Jack Kirby created the New Gods mythos (Apokolyps, New Genesis...) as well as having co-created various classic Marvel characters before moving over to DC. His face *and* drawing style was the inspiration for Dan Turpin's character design.

[@Carn_Is_Done]

They also strongly implied Harley and Ivy were a thing on that one 1993 episode of BTAS that led to them being more explicitly a thing years later when society had progressed enough. DCAU was 'woke'. :)

[@Swenglish]

@@Carn_Is_Done Yeah, it takes only a cursory reading between the lines to see that Ivy spent years trying (to varying degrees of temporary success) to help Harley get over her unhealthy and unrequited Joker obsession because she had a thing for (and sometimes with) her. While not overt by today's standard, the subtext (and innuendo) was remarkably clear for being a cartoon marketed to a young audience at that time, and their current relationship status in the comics and HQ cartoon didn't come out of nowhere.

[@glx3846]

Hi Meg, my best friend and I are watching your vlog now! We are looking forward to hearing your reaction!

[@tacoman422]

They really got as much past the radar in this episode as they could, huh? Blood, mild swearing, an onscreen death, and even an implied lesbian couple.

[@cedricfoster1]

tom king's Mister Miracle graphic novel is great if you want to learn more about Orion and Darksied and the fourth world. Its also great because it's about existentialism, depression, and suicidal ideation due to parental abuse and how to not repeat the cycle of violence and abandonment that your parents chose but through the lens of a super hero.

[@super_nurd]

I remember that the creators wanted the stakes to be raised because the villain is Darkseid. So they always wanted the end to be someone dies. Of course DC basically said no to all their characters. So the staff went with Turpin because they made him and DC can’t say no. It was also fitting it was for a character who had the same spirit as Jack Kirby. I think a lot of dialogue choices and his looks were supposed to be nods to Kirby? That part I’m unsure about. I just remember the commentary track of this episode gave a lot of insight for what they were thinking of how to do a Darkseid episode.

[@brandonangstman]

Yep he looks just like Jack

[@robertsims7828]

One of my favorite episodes of the series

[@mrbigbad9144]

Darkseid killing Dan is one of the greatest tributes ever.

[@subscorpion9560]

Superman wanted to avenge his friend but all he can do is put his anger on a left over vehicle until he stops and kneels down as he mourns for Dan :’(

[@LordNifty]

For Darkseid, it was Tuesday.

[@retrospectiverants2304]

The series takes a deep turn for the gritty at this point.

[@robertfalk3767]

Dan Turpin dying always hurts.

[@Victor-qx3vx]

I’ve been waiting for this one 🥲

[@kR-qj7rw]

13:55 while i enjoy how you interpreteverything THIS noise is amazing literally me when x character is rainbow

[@bookwyrm713]

I definitely recommend reading Jack Kirby's work. Mister Miracle and New Gods are my favorites. Additionally I think the trade "Silver Surfer: When calls Galactus" is a good introduction to his earlier work.

[@johnroby-f1r]

The episodes i recommend to you to watch, Meg: "In Brightest Day..." "Superman's Pal" "The Demon Reborn"

[@Grayskunk]

Fun fact Steppenwolf is Darkseid’s uncle

[@jarvisfowlkes3200]

Love you Meg

[@henrybelman7424]

Orion uses his motherbox to look more human

[@ChaosZero1031]

13:08 It's difficult to say how much or if Darkseid is ever really Orion's father. Darkseid is kind of ridiculous since supposedly there is only one Darkseid with him being an entity that actually knows about the multiverse cause it exists outside of the multiverse. Basically every version of Darkseid that exists in comics, shows, and other media are basically extentions/vessals of that single Darkseid which have been imbued with like a fraction of his true power that it uses to interact with whatever multiverses that vessal exists in.

[@oussamamahfoud3168]

Amazing reaction ❤❤❤ also a beautiful episode that pays tribute to jack kirby if you read about him he basically the father of comics he creates a lot of marvel characters and also the new gods in DC

[@windandcloudshadow158]

Michael Ironside is the GOAT.

[@TheBlond49]

RIP Dan Turpin

[@JosephRodriguezPhotography]

Jack and Stan were legends

[@JokerFan-hj4iv]

This is why Darksied is the final boss villain of the DC universe because he’s the literal worst! In fact he’s supposed to represent evil and tyranny itself.

[@thesmilyguyguy9799]

Love The Jack Kirby Like Art In This One

[@ethangonzalezllera6133]

Superman's reaction Is like Goku's reaction when Frieza killed Krillin. (Dragon Ball Z) How Shiryu reacted when Deathmask tried to kill his girlfriend. (Saint Seiya)

[@lithiumgreen105]

13:57 I had a feeling that would be your reaction to Maggie’s girlfriend 😂

[@animetrashamvs]

Can someone remind me how Orion joins the Justice League in this continuity?

[@devinsantiago5357]

I subscribed meg

[@WhiteFangofWar]

21:53 That's me today. Hopefully the rest of this reaction can help.

[@Traveler89_89]

Stan Lee is very well known due to marvel but it all started over at DC with Jack Kirby and Stan Lee. I believe they stopped working together over creative differences and Kirby has done work for both Dc and Marvel. Great artist. Hoping James Gunn does good by him and we get a New Gods film with Jack Kirby influence. Tom king is a great writer for new gods comics as well and it’s awesome to hear him and James Gunn working on a supergirl film for 2026. Great reaction and happy you are getting history about new genesis and the new gods and their relation to Superman. Losing Dan Turpin was like one of the first deaths on screen in a kids show on Saturday morning. I remember watching this two parter and being crushed. I loved Dan Turpin. Thanks for your reaction

[@striderhiryu2441]

Darkseid was created by Kirby... the greatest Villain ever... even Thanos was created from Darkseid and metron by Jim Starlin... Kirby was the King... Turpin looked like him and represented him kinda

[@jerbearschannel2208]

Maggie Sawyer was an has always been gay

[@williamrobinson4513]

I know Meg. I figured this episode would leave you, somewhat, speechless. You are starting to see the VALUE of the SUPPORTING CAST of Superman. I could be wrong, but I believe that Kaliback was the other son in the exchange between Darkside and Highfather (just assuming).

[@Mansplainer2099-jy8ps]

No, it's another character. Kalibak is also Darkseid's biological son.

[@krono5el]

Long live the King Jack Kirby : D

[@AnthonySmith-bj9mo]

hi MegMage

[@tunasub7727]

W colin robinson reference

[@jalenbobo668]

I wonder if the other baby is okay the one dark side had to raised

[@NicholasIrvin]

I got a question Could you do a reaction of the Swat cat series , and would you be interested in doing a reaction to a movie called a x l

[@bigbodis2721]

19:20 I hate when Superman is forced to be Jesus.

[@jerbearschannel2208]

You should definitely react to Super girl. Maggie is a major character and yeah gay