My SIL Is Obsessed With My Husband So I Want To Uninvite Her For Our Baby Shower r/Relationships

[@spockezri]

that sister in law is so creepy! i was PRAYING op meant sister in law like his sibling's wife but my god.

[@freya2093]

At the start she says the SIL is the husbands adopted sister 😰

[@okyep]

​@@freya2093it's fine then

[@RandomTrinidadian]

​@@okyepstill kinda creepy

[@Callimo]

@@okyep lol not really. There were raised together since birth. OP's husband ONLY sees her as a sister. Something is broken with this chick.

[@Laura-it2zb]

​@@okyepNot really, they were raised as siblings, so ... genetics aside, her behavior is both abnormal and unnatural.

[@stellamccoy5259]

I don't understand why people think it is a good idea to try and find the OPs of stories. A person is looking for some kind of advice, not for someone to creep into their lives. But I guess too many people have nothing better to do with their lonely lives.

[@mbyerly9680]

People like this are creepy as heck. They use other people's misery as an excuse to gain detective points by chasing people down to crucify them online. I'm sure in their free time they are going through many years of posts, etc., of celebrities to throw them to the woke police.

[@candypettynettie487]

Agreed. Considering the story in this case, that's just creepy. So many people become head detective after they hear the story.

[@Plaprad]

Back in the day when I actually used to creep Reddit I'd go into Op's history and look around. It was never to try and "Find them". Just to see if there was other information that would fill in gaps or something that changed the story. From the sounds of it though, it seems like it was a typical Reddit "This sounds similar to a movie plot I don't remember or understand so it must be fake. So I'll demand personal info from Op to prove to me this is real because I'm a professional Reddit detective!"

[@MargaritaOnTheRox]

Sometimes a story sounds suspicious, and people will check the post history to confirm details, not to try to find the OP. I get notifications on An I the Angel where people discuss obviously fake posts. One story the person was claiming to be a man in his 20s, with expensive furniture (I think a $2000 lamp was mentioned in the story), so people looked at the previous postings. Turned out the OP in other posts said he was 16 years old. I have to admit, I was suspicious when OP claimed to have changed genders. The only way I can see that working with the nature of the story is with the sister. I can't imagine any jobs caring if someone posts on Reddit that their SIL was in live with their husband.

[@veezopolis]

This story is completely fake

[@TsukiKageTora]

Older bio brother who moved to another country permanently, you have to wonder if he had no choice to with Tina’s behaviors as a kid and wasn’t heard by their parents, who literally admitted they thought she just had a crush on OP’s husband (which shouldn’t be tolerable in itself) but only realized when things escalated. Their older bio brother probably had the same experiences, but less severe so their parents didn’t think anything of it and let it go on. Probably to the point the brother had to leave However, that’s just a theory, cause we don’t actually know why he moved permanently away to another country

[@zerobolt9506]

I was wondering if he had done something with her, then ran away out of guilt/fear & Tina just transferred all of it over to hubby, like the whole can we kiss & cuddle thing, like why'd that was even a thought at that age for her

[@tifadreamers]

@@zerobolt9506 that's a terrifying theory to think about but I agree, there might be a silverlining between why the oldest moved away and went LC/NC and how a child that age could have thought to be intimate with him. when I first reading the post, I initially thought that this obsession may have stemmed from her teenage infatuation, or if she stumbled across an incest dark romance in her teen years and projected it to her relationship with OP's husband. But then OP said she asked that on the age of 11, while Sean, the oldest brother left when she was 10....that got me a lot of thinking. If Sean did have something to do with it or if this obsession grew from the trauma caused by Sean mistreating her, then this problem is deeply rooted than it looks. probably one of the reasons why she hasn't recovered even after going to therapy. she wouldn't be able to grow past it if she hasn't been forced to deal or open up that trauma

[@chelseapthib36]

Completely agree! I wonder what started all her obsessive behaviors with her brothers... like what in the actual f**k! Not just 1brother, but 2 of them! Why was she never interested in boys from school, or just other boys in general!? I'm assuming she knows she's adopted, so is that how she's rationalized being sexually attracted to her f**kin BROTHERS! 😵‍💫😵 I have 3 stepbrothers, they came into my life when I was 14, they were 15 and 13 (we're all in our mid-30s now). I have NEVER thought of them in any way other than brother and sister. Their dad raised me, my father died when I was young. Even when our parents first started dating, I saw them as siblings. All my girlfriends thought my older brother was "so hot", and sure he's a handsome dude, but ew 😂 he's my brother! That's how normal people think, that's how a normal functioning brain works. People who are right in the head are not attracted to their siblings, blood related or not, it's just not ok! So, you really do have to wonder what happened to that girl in her childhood that distorted her view of family and made her think it was acceptable to have sexual feelings for her freakin brothers! She needs to be locked up in a padded room and kept away from her family and OP's family, because I only see this ending in one way if not. Her complete disregard for her SIL and the children is disturbing, and quite frankly, frightening. I'd keep a gun in arm's reach at all times.

[@TsukiKageTora]

@@zerobolt9506 I doubt it because she would have continued to fawn over him instead of moving her attraction to her other brother

[@chelseapthib36]

@jlekan538 it was quite a read! My jaw hit the floor about 10 seconds in, and stayed there for the duration. BTW, I realize I only gave 2 ages of my 3 brothers, the other was a baby, a 5 year old, so yeah 😂 there's a shit ton of us now! 3 stepbrothers and 1 half-brother, who is only 21! Can you imagine being around all that testosterone! I moved into the outdoor kitchen (our parents turned it into a studio-like apartment for me) when I was 16 bcuz I was so ready to kill the 2 oldest boys! Brothers are so gross! Me and the oldest would fight for the bathroom every morning, so my parents were like yall sister needs her own space or she's gonna bury her brother in the backyard one day 😂 This is a sibling relationship, not how Tina thinks... I was horrified.

[@whitneylivingston5706]

I don’t get why all the comments are saying OP has a husband problem. He’s hardly talked to his sister since he asked OP to marry him. Sounds like he set boundaries and has stuck to them. OP stated she was the one issuing invitations to the sister knowing she won’t show up.

[@philwill0123]

She had a husband problem because he downplayed and dismissed Tina's actions for 9 years. Saying "she's always been dramatic" is not dealing with a problem.

[@j.j.juggernaut9709]

@@philwill0123 In his defense, it's not easy to wrap your head around the fact that your sister, adopted or otherwise, is LUSTING after you. Husband is not at fault here

[@jake8748]

​@philwill0123 not really. Him and his family haven't encouraged her at all and sought treatment for Tina. And he shut her right down as soon as she started crap again aswell. The in laws asked about her coming to the shower not him. He just wanted to see if she was better before going no contact again. Seems perfectly reasonable and understandable. Also downplayed, they've been no contact for 9 years. Ive never heard fully cutting off a sibling as a mild reaction or dismissive of a problem.

[@indiashante1560]

After hearing the complete story I don't think their brother knew how extreme Tina's emotions towards him were. The FIL has been secretly keeping Tina on a short leash for 9 years now at her if she's have been getting bigger. Hope his husband probably couldn't fathom how extreme Tina was until she text him all that craziness.

[@MargaritaOnTheRox]

Because it's one of Reddit's favorite things to say. "You don't have a ______ problem, you have s husband problem." Any way they can work that phrase in, they'll shoehorn it.

[@nataliereeves3594]

If something is not done about sister in law soon, things will escalate. 1. She could try to kill the husband (if I can't have him, then no one can. 2. She could try to kill op to get her out of the way. 3. She could try to cause op to miss carry (though I suspect the stress of dealing with sister in law could have had a hand in the previous miscarriages) so it would cause a rift or for husband to leave op and she would be there to "comfort" him. 4. She could go after the children in order to sever the link between husband and op in her mind. Hopefully, these things may not happen, but you here some crazy things in these posts, so op and husband need to be cautious.

[@sharontalladira]

Those were my thoughts exactly

[@PrincessQ-fj9ly]

My thoughts exactly! A restraining order might be needed here. Tina has clearly proven herself to be a danger.

[@totallynotalpharius2283]

I think the best bet is to trick the SIL into going on vacation in a foreign country and leave her there

[@TriXJester]

Anyone else have the gut feeling that this is not the last we hear from this OP? This seems like a calm before the storm but maybe some of the famous Reddit Sagas just have me paranoid. Idk, just got the instinct that this will escalate.

[@Lavonsweet]

It wouldn't surprise me. I hope all goes well and SIL gets the help she needs and stays away.

[@SwirlyPinwheel]

This kind of crazy just doesn't dissipate. She'll either end up with a restraining order, in prison, or shift obsessions (or some combo of the above).

[@tifadreamers]

I have the same gut feeling as I was reading this. I just thought it's because I've been watching too many crime documentaries but my mind keeps going back on all the worst case scenarios if they let things escalate. I just hope it WOULDN'T. praying for OP and her family's safety. especially the kids

[@veezopolis]

She has three other movies to make believe

[@Russman67]

Tina is obsessed with OP's husband. And she's been drama for nine years. Keep her at arms distance from everyone. You can't trust her.

[@whitewitch32]

Arms length is not enough, I will say move to another continent may be the best option, to a very secluded area where people know each other and can keep you safe if you befriend them get yourself as well dog, Kayn Corso, or other bread that can protect you and your kids.

[@onepieceisking5493]

Story 1, NTA. The fact she threw a MASSIVE tantrum that her brother wasn't coming back to their group and actually took their card keys to lock everyone out because she was upset is beyond childish and a red flag. Then the house warming party she completely ignored op, wore a sexy outfit and tried to get her brother's attention plus touching inappropriately. She didn't even care that he was, visibly might I add, uncomfortable with her. Also, the way she talks about him, also sounds like complaining, definitely tells that she's in love with him and hates that he chose op over her. Definitely not surprised that she got really upset that her brother proposed to op and ran off to the bathroom. She can't take that she can't have him and that he loves op. I'm betting she can't have healthy relationships because she's so hooked up on her brother. Why am I not surprised that she had a breakdown plus skipped out on the wedding as well as every event that they attended. Yep, by texting those things to him definitely shows that she's not over him and still hates op for "stealing" her brother from her. I'm with op, she's going to try to ruin the day because she hates op for having her brother and I'm betting the "boyfriend" is just to show that she's okay when she hasn't changed at all. The fact he's not doing good, left work early and his phone is blowing up, I would say it's not good. Definitely agree with the comments that hubby NEEDS to deal with her NOW and that she's a danger to op and the kids. Update, not surprised that when her brother didn't respond she kept insulting op and the kids. Good on him for finally telling her off and blocking her. I bet she didn't expect that and probably will go into a frenzy. To "surprise" him? More like jump him and try to get with him. The family was probably hoping she got better only to see she hasn't changed at all and still hates op. FIL is awesome for keeping her in check and trying to get treatment for her. She's probably not going to take well to the rejections and getting talked to by the family about her issues. I hope they get her the help she needs and make sure the treatment sticks.

[@jasonrustmann7535]

Only "treatment" that's gonna sort that bag of mixed nuts out is be delivered by the business end of a .38 Sometimes you can't fix crazy, and better to do it BEFORE she hurts op or the kids. Jesus christ man. Makes you wonder what her actual folks were like.

[@LunaP1]

SiL still needs to get her mental health checked in a in-patient facility instead of living with the incompetent parent in-laws. They may not be blood related, but that still doesn't mean her adoptive brother would be automatically in love with her.

[@Zino_Kohiruimaki]

Like she's actually Littearly sexual harrasing him

[@technicaldifficulties368]

It's very sad because she clearly has some type of attachment disorder that may never get better since it wasn't addressed in childhood. I'm not excusing her behavior and she is definitely a potential danger to OP and the children. Husband too if she can ever truly understand that she has no chance with husband.

[@johnbradbury8610]

How could OP ask AITA?

[@brandyb2931]

My husband has an older adopted brother who moved to Germany after he met a woman over there while he was in the military and got married. His contact was very sporadic through the years. I have met him once and my husband has probably had half a dozen phone calls with him in the almost 20 years we have been together. Sometimes people's lives just go in their seperate ways without anything bad having occurred.

[@Nathan_Bookwurm]

Yea, my brother and I live in the same country (an hour away) and still we only see eachother at birthdays/Christmas. We were close as children, but now we don't really share any interest. It just happens sometimes.

[@MrBrachiatingApe]

I've talked to one of my brothers 4 times in the last 15 years and only met my niece once. Not by my choice; 25 years ago we lived across the bay from each other for 5 to 6 years and he never answered a call, email, text, smoke signal, semaphore, sky writing, or psychic projection. Between that and him never visiting me in university (despite visiting him 4 or 5 times per year, not including family holidays), I realized he just doesn't really want a relationship. Hurt like hell, and still stings occasionally now, but there's FA I can do, and even less I can make him do.

[@soralinklokidottirprincess10]

SIL’s behavior is yandere behavior. The stalking, the touching and passive aggression it’s amazing how she’s not in a mental ward.

[@AndyyWithAY]

Miscarriages are a because they shouldn't be together? You couldn't carry a baby to term? Tina is DEFINITELY dangerous. She's the type to sneak in and try to harm the kids. She has no regard for them and is obsessed with their father. OP is taking this way too lightly. The parents aren't saints. Them and husband have enabled and ignored troubling behavior for years. I HOPE no harm comes to anyone, but this has true crime written all over it.

[@sugakookie7985]

Parents should have had that girl in therapy from the beginning of joining their family, something was way off with her from the start

[@kasa9884]

She was adopted as an infant, though. But yes, they should have put her in therapybas a child when they realized she was obsessed with that 1 brother and also should have done family therapy, too.

[@MaryTheresa1986]

​@@kasa9884The family probably downplayed her behavior and the parents probably blew off Sean's concerns, hence why he went no contact. I'd love to hear his side of the story.

[@Bonaduece]

@@MaryTheresa1986 It's also possible Sean messed with her, and was ostracized from the family for it, but the other kids were too young to know that. We'll never know. But kids who were molested often have very messed up ideas of what love looks like.

[@johnbradbury8610]

After hearing the whole story I can't believe OP actually asked AITA for not inviting her Pyscopath SIL to her house. I'm glad OP and her husband finally opened their damn eyes. The children have to come before SIL's feelings.

[@jenniferslack-smith5129]

I’d be afraid that she will want to help your husband by getting rid of the children he “never wanted”.

[@PeacheIIe]

Why is everyone acting like shes his childhood friend or something and brushing over the fact that they are SIBLINGS. Edit: ok thank god some of the comments addressed it.

[@PrincessQ-fj9ly]

No one is brushing it off. Everyone is creeped out by the emotional incest. 😰

[@justine8387]

I mean reddit is wild place but I think everyone was shocked by this one... just like how can you say EWWWWWW loud enough by text for this one.

[@chaseashley6775]

The first story is crazy but OP and her husband meeting during a karaoke duet is so cute😊

[@liabowden8526]

I was just imagining OP telling all the other shower guests and them starting a betting pool about what SIL will do & when... like "I say 30 minutes in, pregnancy announcement" and when SIL executes her plan, everyone will be unsurprised and possibly laughing at her, and the winner gets the biggest prize at the shower. Maybe I'm the asshole, lol.

[@Plaprad]

Or as soon as she announced pregnancy or marriage, Op calls out, "Ok, who had pregnancy announcement at one hour in?" Then hands a stack of twenties to an excited friend. Actually make a show of it, with party poppers and the winners name pop up on the TV.

[@carolrondou6161]

Brilliant

[@madgevanness4011]

Given how unstable that woman is, better have a policeman with a taser there if you do that.

[@targaryenxmandi]

NTA. But Tina's behavior is unhealthy and sick. Adopted sibling or not, that's incest. But good on OP's husband putting his foot down and telling the sister off. Her bringing up OP's miscarriages and acting like she doesn't deserve him really gave the husband a wake up call. OP hang onto your hubby. He's a definitely a keeper. I know he has been good to your daughter too and I hope your pregnancy goes well.

[@thefiretailedweasel6206]

That SIL should've stayed in treatment. 🤷🏽‍♀️

[@momo382844]

My thoughts exactly.

[@PrincessQ-fj9ly]

My thoughts exactly! I'm pretty sure you can't force someone to get treatment, but I do know that Tina needs massive help, more than what her family can give her.

[@AryonaSamoto]

While I understand her instability if she went through something traumatic as a child, it doesn't excuse her actions now. She needs help and counseling to get to the root of these disturbing actions. I'm glad OP and hubby gave cut contact and that the family supports their decision.

[@indiashante1560]

Did she go through something traumatic out of child? Cuz Op said they all were adopted at birth?

[@pippo17173]

@indiashante1560 something tells me that she might of been abuse by her bio parents and her brother must be her coping partner in her mind.

[@kristy1653]

@@pippo17173But, how would she have been abused by her bio parents if she was adopted AT BIRTH?

[@pippo17173]

@kristy1653 oops my bad on that.

[@dodgyyoutuber9560]

@@indiashante1560Indeed. Maybe this family is not all they say they are.

[@PrincessQ-fj9ly]

Ok, I'm flabbergasted with what I've just read. Tina is clearly disturbed. (⁠;⁠ŏ⁠﹏⁠ŏ⁠) OP's definitely NTA for not wanting to uninvite her toxic sister in law. And Mark's right. Tina really needs massive help with her mental health issues and her husband needs to take this seriously, and put his foot down. After Update: I'm so glad OP's husband put his foot down and got rid of Tina. And I'm glad the family isn't enabling her crazy behavior. I really hope she gets the help she needs, but I'm worried that she's too far gone now. (⁠٥⁠↼⁠_⁠↼⁠)

[@TheDarwinProject1]

If the SIL lives with the parents, shes gonna find OP's address & phone # eventually. It might be written down in emergency contacts or on her parents' phones that she could eventually find unlocked when they get up to answer the door or go to the restroom. The family would need to keep their phones on them, all the time, with fingerprint locks, & locked up at night in a biometric lock box. However, she still could get access, but it would be the most secure they could even get to keep that info safe.

[@naominagler7290]

Mark, you are always so considerate of everyone's feelings and mental health. This is why you are one of my favorite reddit readers.

[@errantwinds-up8uu]

Same! I know he sometimes he says he sometimes has too much empathy, but I disagree. The world needs more kindness. And Tina needs serious help.

[@annaisnotdum3337]

@@errantwinds-up8uu😊😊😊p

[@marshawargo7238]

Mark, a kind soul, with an open heart! Plus he has to worry about pissing off people who think Their opinions are the right opinions! (Those people probably think Mark is a fence sitter) I've always tried to see things from other people's POV. Every time I haven't, it turns out I was wrong or the minority! Listening Is Learning 😮

[@SmileyFace123Lolz]

Lmao yay Mark fanclub 🫡🤗

[@elizabethescalante8114]

​@@errantwinds-up8uu The only problem is the she seems like she's not going to get any better no matter how much help she does get. Even if she DID get sentenced to a facility, she could easily manipulate her way out of it by playing the long con. Obsessive stalkers aren't known for giving up or going down without a fight. And once she's convinced everyone around her that she's "changed", she can kill whomever she wants with nobody being the wiser!

[@Mia-dt3gl]

Oh, Tina will find a way to get to their house. Regardless of if they live 5 hours away. Tracey Thurman’s husband followed her across _seven states_ when she first fled from him. With enough determination Tina will find a way. I hope OP and her husband can keep themselves safe.

[@AndyyWithAY]

So many of these questions don't need to be asked. Someone has been disrespectful for years, of course you don't invite her to the baby shower. I wonder why she's never had a healthy relationship? 🤔 Could it be a disgusting obsession with her own brother. This one could've had a TW for incest. I don't care if she's adopted. They were raised together, this is the only family she's known since birth. And people who thought they didn't want marriage and kids as kids change their minds all the time. 😒

[@truthseeker9249]

OLD FRIEND!! Maybe YOU can answer my questions! I am completely lost on the family tree! Can you explain it to me? Where does OP's husband fit on the family tree? Who was born in what order? And IS OP'S HUSBAND ADOPTED TOO OR IS HE A BIO CHILD? That's the thing I'm most confused about because OP said at one point he's the 2ND YOUNGEST so I'm assuming crazy tina is the youngest. But SHE for sure is adopted. But then she mentioned 2 older siblings who are bio children. And she said there are 3 adopted children including Tina. I'm lost. I don't know who's who. So 1. How many are there? 2. What's the order of children? Who was born when? 3. Who is adopted and who isn't? Please tell me or I will be scratching my head for the rest of the day.

[@redacted8005]

​@@truthseeker92496 kids total including the husband. 3 Bio, 3 Adopted. Husband seems like the youngest bio kid & older than Tina by a few years. Tina is the middle of the adopted kids. It probably goes: Sean, Bio sister, Husband, Adopted #1, Tina (#2), then Adopted #3. Husband & Adopted #1 may be switched in birth order. So there's a margin of error in my theory, but it doesn't impact the story.

[@truthseeker9249]

@@redacted8005 yeah cause OP said husband was the 2nd youngest. So I think the other 2 adopted kids a probably ahead of him and Tina is the youngest. Sean, Bio sister, 2 adopted children, husband the bio child and then adopted Tina. But your theory makes sense. Thank you! My head was starting to hurt trying to figure it out. 😵

[@AndyyWithAY]

@truthseeker9249 Her beastie. My understanding was that the husband was the parent's bio child. I'm not sure of anything else. I was confused also, but so much else was going on I couldn't focus on that. If I get around to finding the post on Reddit, I'll provide any extra info I find. I'm sure other commenters wanted to know also

[@taz598]

I feel for OP and really people her Husband didn't have to do anything with or to his adoptive sister for her to become obsessed with him....People all over the world are stalked some by people they know and some by strangers....its actually easier for someone who knows you to do this without raising alarms because they know you well and you trust them so you don't look for it like you would in a stranger. I think the parents make a huge mistake when they knew she was writing journals about him to not read those journals and to not put distance between the two and get her inpatient treatment. Instead she had YEARS to build on her obsession and whatever fantasy she had going on in her mind and that may not be reversible at this point.

[@ginathecookie]

Yeah I hated that commentors were assuming that Does it happen? Absolutely but so does Mental health just developing. It's more likely bc of genetic history as well as environmental. I speak as someone who has had up and down moods since I was a kid.. my family just has a higher risk of it and some physical illnesses. (Although no, I wouldnt stalk someone.) Tina needs help and to be far away from OP and the husband's family..

[@edalynclawthorne5877]

Excluding the fact OP’s probably living life now thinking that HSM is a weird stalker romance story… Tina genuinely is unstable. Psychosis level unstable. Hubby clearly took the role of the ‘favourite person’ (idolised person [Tina] is possessive over) from the older brother in Tina’s eyes. A very volatile manifestation of this. This isn’t a pattern that is likely to change. Specially because of how long this has been and how he was there in the formative years. It wasn’t fair on Hubby to be made responsible for Tina’s emotions, and it’s 100% healthier for both of them to not interact. Poor OP, poor Hubby, and hopefully Tina can improve from this… but it ain’t likely.

[@Sherwoody]

I had flashbacks to the movies Fatal Attraction and Play Misty For Me. SIL sounds dangerous.

[@Violet-fj3lr]

I've never seen that movie and I had the exact reaction you're talking about. Throughout the whole story I'm like, "...this was the plot of high school musical?" So I appreciate you saying it's not it. I was seriously worried for a minute there.

[@ElleD308]

Something tells me this is the same reason the older brother never came back home

[@technicaldifficulties368]

@@ElleD308 Which is crazy. Especially with the no contact thing.

[@cleopatraonlyfans]

Ill say volatile gosh. Ive had favourite persons before when i was younger but i dont think it ever even occurred to me to want to be possessive abt it. If i love someone why wouldnt i want to know the friends and family responsible for influencing and raising a beautiful person?

[@Lulu-ut9pv]

The fact that Sean has ran away from the family proves Tina is dangerous, the poor brother had to run away to protect himself as no one either didn't stop Tina or supported him with Tina being a creep at 10

[@shells500tutubo]

Or the brother was the dangerous one and fled because he was afraid Tina would expose him for molesting her.

[@Lulu-ut9pv]

@@shells500tutubo ohh that too, but base on Tina's behaviour I believe the Frist idea

[@Vayeya1]

​@@Lulu-ut9pv what if she became that crazy for the abuse she received? Maybe that is why she normalized the sister-brother relationship.

[@Lulu-ut9pv]

@@Vayeya1 yeah, there's always two sides to a story, either he abused her and ran away like a coward or she truly is mentally unstable

[@Lulu-ut9pv]

Yeah if he stayed he could have been called an pedo while completely innocent

[@des1279]

The idea that Sean maybe did something inappropriate w her and then never contacted the family again..that does seem more believable than OP husband doing anything. He doesn’t seem guilty, but with the limited info about Sean and that whole thing….seems sketchy to me.

[@KSull6736]

that's what I was thinking, but you'd expect for OPs husband to have told OP this to explain her strange behavior. Unless Tina never came forward with the information, but even then, you'd expect some of the mentally stable sisters to have something to say about Sean if anything did happen.

[@Naadeneo]

Sometimes families don't communicate much, especially overseas. Most people do not even visit family in same city ever.

[@jamestomlin5525]

Yeah he did something, odd that no one else ever picked up in it

[@eriibooo]

I do find it sad that some people in the comments are immediately assuming Sean did something to Tina when they were kid without any info about Sean or why he left and stayed gone. If anything based off Tina's behavior and the info OP gave it seems far more likely that Tina was the one possibly harassing Sean. If we think about it under the assumption that Sean did do something to Tina why did he leave and cut contact with his family and "victim"? As far as we know Tina never made accusations that he did anything, so if he was a P-word why would he leave such a "sweet deal" behind? Also if he had done something wouldn't Tina have said something by now? Since people in the comments were theorizing Sean did something and Hubby "saved" her wouldn't Hubby know? Wouldn't she at some point say "You saved me from Sean, that proves you love me, and we should be together." I just can't really imagine a P-word willingly leaving their victim. Maybe the parents knew and forced him out? But then wouldn't they have mentioned it. Even if they didn't out right say what he did would they have not said "Sean did something bad, and he's no longer part of the family." To me it seems far more likely that Sean wasn't exactly on board with have 3 new siblings at the age of 8-9. Considering it can be difficult to integrate 1 bio-kid with that big of a age difference. You throw in him being the oldest, most likely having babysit them, or drive them around when he got older, then on top of all that Tina's concerning behavior, and it's no wonder why the left. Finally I would just like to point out that if Tina was inappropriate towards Sean, what adult is really going to believe that a 10 year-old little girl is the aggressor, and that the 18 year-old man is the victim? Especially 10+ years ago, no shot many if any adults are going to believe Sean didn't somehow encourage this from Tina.

[@niyanna]

Exactly. Plus He cut them off. Not the other way. And with her being hospitalized so much doctors would notice signs of CSA. I doubt it's that. It might just be genetics

[@chelseapthib36]

I'm not really sure there's that big of an age difference... just because she was 10 and he's the oldest, doesn't mean he was 18... but idk. Anyway, i agree with everything else. I don't believe he did anything to her. She even came on to Hubby asking if they could "cuddle and kiss" 🤢🤮 She's fckin sick. Get rid of her in any way, shape, or form. She's dangerous.

[@Vayeya1]

For me it's really weird that he left to a different country just before he could be tried as an adult and never came back. Why no other sibling was sent to study abroad? Maybe he was the one that showed her to "kiss and cuddle" (we don't know since which age), so for her was a normal thing to ask the other brother, when the first one was no longer around. And the trauma of being abused is what made her so mentally unstable, and to think that having that sort of relationship with a brother is ok.

[@pinklemonade8320]

@@Vayeya1 Idk maybe because his unstable, obsessive little sister was creeping him out?

[@pinklemonade8320]

It's reddit, everything is men's fault

[@kerribottriell-baxter7345]

As someone who has had premature births and miscarriages, I really want to hug OP and give Tina a good something to make her hurt.

[@jonescity]

You know what...? I bet Sean has all the tea...There's more to this story.

[@PrincessQ-fj9ly]

Yeah. There has to be more to this story.

[@jamestomlin5525]

Yep, he screwed her up big time. How odd that he ran as soon as getting out of highschool and completely cut contact.

[@terramarini6880]

@@jamestomlin5525 We don't know that, she was adopted, Why? What happened in her before life that caused her to be put up for adoption? Was it the kind of interference that shapes how she interacts and connects? Maybe. And maybe that created equally unhealthy attachment issues. Tina is not in full control of her mouth and thought process, the penny would have dropped by now if he had I believe. Sean certainly could answer a LOT of questions that's for sure.

[@veezopolis]

High School Musical came out in 2006 when this OP was 15. They are LYING about not knowing this was the exact set up for that movie

[@Tammohawk1]

I hate to think what will happen when the dad dies. He seems to be the only one who is keeping her in check. And OP gave away her profession. I'm not going to say how, but she did near the end.

[@Emi_TheWinged]

As a woman i think we (everyone) should take those crazy bishes seriously. Imagine if the genders were reversed? That's just plain disgusting on so many lvls. She is a predator even if shes younger, she sexually harrased Op Husband and is showing stalker/mentally unstable obssesive behavior. She needs some strong meds or to be supervised. The fact that her behavior was there even as a young child is concerning. I don't think it apeared from parenting, she needs to be diagnosed because this is not just a ("normal" person) She is sick.

[@justine8387]

Yeah, it strikes me as having some serious trauma based attachment disorder.

[@TsukiKageTora]

When OP said she is too old to watch High School Musical, my response is this: You’re never too old to watch anything, people who care what others think of them for watching what they like are not confident in themselves and could potentially miss out on watching something they might like just because of people and their judgment.

[@TsukiKageTora]

@@LostSoulchild89 I watched it when I was in high school when this movie came out and I couldn’t connect to it. I think it would be ok to not think you’re going to like a movie based on your interests but not because “I’m too old to like it” because that sounds like you’re thinking everything has an age limit on the audience. I’m a grown woman and I still like seeing some little kid shows every once in a while. Probably as a stress reliever.

[@paulastiles5507]

Story #1: I'm really glad OP's husband shut all that down and refused to meet with SIL alone. SIL wouldn't be the first unhinged stalker to murder the object of their obsession. Sounds like OP's in-laws let that situation go on far too long and I, too, am curious about what happened with the older brother.

[@co7314]

Sister in law is showing vibes if "OP and her kids are standing in the way of us being together". Molly, you in danger, girl.

[@tovelokiwifeodindottir9936]

The sisters obsession has probably also been affirmed by the multiple stories about step-siblings getting together and even adopted siblings getting together and having very successful relationships. Which ever way you look at it, it has become more prevalent recently. Its a common belief that they dont share blood so its not incest. I had/have the same issue with a stepbrother. To this day he STILL wants to get with me. Unfortunately when i was 5-10, anyways, after my step-dad passed i disowned him completely. But again his thought process is that its ok because we dont share blood. I still get shivers of disgust everytime i think about it.

[@yesthatmousyiris4887]

Agree it's still incest even if you aren't related.

[@tallyp.7643]

Yeah, when you're raised together as siblings, that's got some ick factor to it. I've got a weird theory that the Cullen household with all those "teen adopted siblings/really vampire couples" from Twilight have played a part in some of this dynamic (even though that was totally fiction and the family was a cover for the outside world from what I understand... had friends obsessed with the series, couldn't help hearing about it). Found it weird that other teens in the school seemed to shrug off that all these "adopted kids" in the same house were seemingly dating each other, so why not other people in the real world? (shudder).

[@tovelokiwifeodindottir9936]

@@tallyp.7643 i can ACTUALLY see that... huh

[@Plaprad]

I remember years ago when the "Stepmom" thing started getting popular in adult videos. My SM actually asked me about it and I had to explain it to her. Was not a fun talk.

[@tovelokiwifeodindottir9936]

@F22PLTJR OMG that was like the early 2000s I remember that shit

[@starbird3939]

Story 1 Update Thank god the family gets it. I can only hope she gets the help she DESPERATELY needs

[@aliencreative9360]

“my husband always equated her behavior to jealousy because she never had healthy relationships” yeah i wonder WHY 😭😭😭

[@crem-crem4070]

Story 1: isn’t that the starting plot to high school musical?

[@carlrood4457]

Yes, I recognized it right away. Completely took me out of the story because it must be fake.

[@kbb684]

@@carlrood4457100%... too damn close to the plot to be real, I couldn't stay for much more lol

[@CyeOutsider]

Notice how hubby did NOTHING until HIS feelings were hurt. He didn't give a damn about his wife's feeling for 9 years. Just shrugged and ignored her concerns. Nice.

[@Woodie-xq1ew]

The grippy sock comment absolutely did me in 😂. Also I think that no one listened to Sean being creeped out by his little sister and that’s why he’s never come back

[@eldeano9964]

I wonder if all the pRedditors saying that op's husband is the problem for 'not shutting SiL down', are doubling down for doing so because 'mental health', it made her upset, bad upbringing, etc...

[@TigersandBearsOhMy]

I also had an adopted brother who became rather obsessive and possessive. We've since cut ties. 😕 It's difficult to look back and realize the good times you shared were not what you thought they were.

[@mother_prana]

This is purely speculation. I think a reason why Sean has left lies in the reaction of the parents. They continuously downplayed it. Seems like sean got the brunt of it for years. She probably made passes at him and made him uncomfortable because of their sibling relationship, but also because he was so much older. The parents were no support system responding with just a little crush to all the unhinged obsessive behavior. He probably thought the only way to escape was to leave like that. I know it must be disturbing for the parents to think about, but they were knowingly turning a blind eye. They were very dismissive of her behaviors with OP's husband, so I have a strong feeling that they did not help Sean at all. Also it must be hard to conceptualize a child exhibiting unbalanced predatory behaviors. Following you around for years. Let alone it be your little sibling, and your parents provide no protection. I can't blame him for escaping.

[@philwill0123]

Or Sean abused Tina and she transferred her confused feelings onto a safe sibling who treated her with kindness.

[@miminana-hd6nf]

yeah, I don't get all the people saying Sean abused Tina. I don't get that. If that happened it would have come out a long time ago due to Tina's instability and the fact she has been in, and out of, treatment for years. Poor Sean cut, and ran, when he had to opportunity to. I am sure his father knew about Tina's inappropriate behavior back then and the father protected Tina instead of dealing with the issues. Like OP said, if her husband had had an inappropriate relationship with Tina it would have come out as Tina would have been throwing it around. If Sean had abused Tina it would have come out because Tina would have been screaming about it.

[@goldyd144]

​​@@philwill0123 Or Tina was abused before her adoption, and those feelings just transferred from Sean to OP's husband. OP did say she changed ages and some other details, so it's not exactly clear how old Tina was when she was adopted. Either way, Tina clearly has very deep mental health issues, and her fixation on older brother figures is indicative of some level of unhealthy attachment and childhood trauma. However, that doesn't necessarily mean Sean or OP's Husband were the perpetrators. I wouldn't be surprised if Tina also tried to incessantly contact Sean until he cut the family off for never doing anything about it until it was too late. I really hope Tina gets the help that she needs! Unfortunately, I still think the parents aren't doing enough. Sending her to treatment facilities may just compound her trauma and delusions. She's needed regular behavioral and individual therapy from the moment she started displaying this behavior towards her siblings. I worry it may be too late for her. This post reads as very "calm before the storm."

[@niyanna]

​@@goldyd144ops husband said she and their other adopted siblings were adopted at birth.

[@goldyd144]

@@niyanna Op also admitted to changing details to be less identifiable because Redditors have tried to find her before. That could be one of them. It could also be that someone else inside or outside of the family besides Sean or OP's Husband did it, and they were also an older brother figure.

[@AndyyWithAY]

Woke up a little bit ago. Hoping to watch the video and go back to sleep after. I think it's safe to say the month of insomnia is over.

[@broken_queer_but_fighting8589]

Glad the insomnia is gone 💜💜🤗🤗

[@carolroberts4614]

Well done! I've tried to start by going to bed before midnight, and not getting up if I wake up early, and things are improving slightly!

[@errantwinds-up8uu]

Best of luck with your sleep hon.

[@IzzyPR2010]

If the parents insist on SIL coming to shower, have them make this agreement, if SIL cause a scene at the shower, you will cut them off from her and any children she has. That SIL could be a danger to the children and they are allowing it.

[@starbird3939]

Story 1 - NTA Tina is not well and incestuous. The husband and family refuse to treat this issue-and the husband allowed her to disrespect Op and act like a bitch in heat on him. If the husband cannot tell her to back off, he needs to go.

[@PrincessQ-fj9ly]

He did tell her off and even blocked her. So husband's not the problem, at least not anymore. As for his parents, Im baffled that they didn't notice something was off with their daughter.

[@scheneli000]

"We met in a singing competition our friends forced us into" - oh cute "We dueted together" - oh like High School Musical! "It was at a ski lodge" - HIGH SCHOOL MUSICAL?!

[@treehouse2902]

1. She sounds dangerous and is escalating. This has gone beyond mental health. You may have to get an RTO eventually. Go no contact with her and inform the family of what's going on. The brother gone from the family may be the key to what is going on. The parents knew but decided to turn a blind eye. They want to protect her but are losing their other children in the process.

[@jacquiethebibliophil]

Yes, the brother who moved away and has little to nothing to do with his family, IS VERY MUCH suspect. What is he running away from? I'd want to know if he selected a country in Europe where there is no extradition from, or it is very difficult to extradite from, and/or a place where there is a statute of limitations on child abuse.

[@missdaydreamss]

He's maybe running away from her crazy ass. Wtf.

[@Naadeneo]

You better hope one day someone does not acuse YOU of this, calling him guilty , so now it is guilty unless you prove your Innocence. You know that is backwards right? Opposite of good.

[@Naadeneo]

You do know that she could have gotten that way from her real parents or foster care?

[@CouncilEstateRach]

Wow, I cant believe people are accusing someone if a henious crime when the only person we have word of who is unwell is probably guilty of harassing the poor bloke. I do not think Tina would have kept it to herself if Sean had somehow done anything to her ..... she would have told the world. She is happy to tell everyone how she feels about o.ps husband but Sean is the guilty one. People just can't believe that a woman nlmight actually be the one who was wrong.

[@foreveryoungsiberianhuskie6771]

Sean may have left and stayed away for a few reasons. One could have been Tina, but he could also have began a search for his bio-family and followed where that led him. Could be a combination of the two - finding bio family and feeling out of sorts with his adoptive family due to Tina's behavior, and the permissiveness surrounding it. I don't know for sure, but these are possibilities to explain it.

[@jamestomlin5525]

Nah, he SA her and cut and ran as soon as he turned 18. You know how we know this? Tina become hyper sexual as a child towards her other brother. That's a clear sign of SA as I was too. Find that pos and get him charged

[@notyourfknangel]

Sounds like the oldest brother did something bad to the sister, then basically fled the country for "school" in her broken mind she found this normal and attached to the other brother. They need to read those journals, that guy was running, too suspicious.

[@jamestomlin5525]

Yep, that's exactly what happened. As a victim of SA myself from a parent, I did similar to her but thankfully not to that degree.

[@hybrina790]

the first story…. how they met is literally the plot of high school musical

[@LindaMeade]

I almost tossed up my breakfast. SIL's behavior is beyond cringeworthy.

[@emijliastarovic8524]

Today I’m grooming my Maine coon cat while I listen! She’s huge and has a ton of fur to brush so i usually listen to 2 videos back to back while I brush her lol. She likes KZbin lol

[@maggpiprime954]

Oh my god. I need my speculations about Sean to be wrong. But it makes too much sense. 💔

[@jamestomlin5525]

You're not wrong, he SA her and cut and ran to another country as soon as he turned 18. Odd that he cut contact with everyone when he did when they all supposedly had a tight bond

[@maggpiprime954]

@@jamestomlin5525 I just saw your other comment, which gave context here. If we were sitting next to each other, you'd be able to see my face expressing what my words cannot. Support, sympathy, acknowledgment, empathy, all those things in a nod of my head, and a shoulder squeeze if I felt that's something you'd appreciate. Ugh. Words are clunky sometimes.

[@jamestomlin5525]

@@maggpiprime954 I'd appreciate that man. No worries, I get what you mean. Cheers to you

[@PuppyKatt]

Story 1: NTA You are telling us that this is already a high-risk pregnancy. Sweetheart, you absolutely do not need the added stress from the Drama Queen. Demand, yes, demand that Tina and her bf not attend. I do not want you to have early labor/miscarriage. I have been there, and I cry when others go through that. I have complete empathy for you, and I truly wish you, your husband, and your children all the very best. Edit: I can only imagine why Sean has not shown up after all these years, and why he went overseas and dropped contact.

[@user-blob]

She already knew that it would be a high risk pregnancy before she insisted on breeding again, why not be a decent human and adopt?!

[@user-blob]

@@user-lw5ct5jt9p I have no problem judging these women who insist upon breeding when fostering or adoption would make them better parents.

[@indiashante1560]

Well Tina's batshit crazy. 🥴 I bet that older brother moved away and said her contact with his family because of her. Op's husband really thought he could just ignore the situation and it would go away. As much as a FIL try to help at a certain point he needed to disclose the information to the rest of the family because she sounds dangerous. I get the feeling Tina's eventually going to get shunned from the family for their own safety reasons.

[@jamestomlin5525]

Nah, more like he molested her and cut and ran as soon as he turned 18. Think, she didn't just start being that batshit one day, it was trauma based as I too am a victim qnd in my 30s and still messed up over what was done to me.

[@GrumpyOldFart2]

There was another update: I've been going back and forth on whether I should post an update. Many of you posted supportive feedback and some were kind enough to share their experiences with obsessive persons and how I should handle my situation so it helped me write this update. I included Tina's initial texts after we changed our phone numbers. We were receiving calls from her on our house phone from her work number but we disconnected it once we found out it was her. I wasn't sure how to organize my thoughts on this post, but I think it will be easier to give an update by listing each person involved. Again, I had to alter some information because of my career and the fear of being doxed. Tina- It's been quiet for a few weeks because Tina is currently receiving treatment. At first, I thought it was going to be messy because she found out my husband's new number and texted him several times (attached). He ignored the texts and blocked her. Her reaction to this rejection caused issues for her (losing her job, relationship, etc.), but ultimately, she is getting help now and I hope this time she can heal from whatever it is that is keeping her from living a happy life. Sean- Many people speculated that my husband or Sean did something to Tina that caused her obsessive behavior. First, I thought Sean was my husband's biological brother. This was my assumption because he looks like their father in the pictures I've seen in family photo albums and my husband never referred to any of his siblings as "the adopted one," which I love, but it has caused some confusion on my end because only two of them stand out from the others. This is important to mention because it explains Sean's departure from the family. Sean left after high school because he found his birth family in his native country. He searched for his birth parents all senior year of high school and found older siblings. His parents are deceased, but he started visiting his siblings while studying abroad. He became heavily involved with their religion and customs. After college, he cut ties with my husband and his whole family. My in-laws received a few postcards at first, but they haven't had any contact with him in several years. I can't say definitively whether I believe something happened between Sean and Tina, but his departure makes sense and I can only hope nothing happened. My husband- Again, I want to make it 1000% clear that there's no doubt in my mind that my husband never aided in Tina's obsession. Those who are doubtful, I get it, but respectfully, I trust my husband implicitly. Me- I feel like a weight has been lifted (even if temporarily). My baby shower was amazing and knowing she was far away getting help allowed me to fully enjoy my friends and family. I'm looking forward to meeting our baby and I hope we have peace from this situation for a long time to come.

[@Weirdo365yea]

My mind went straight to the older brother doing something to her and the parents know (or at least the dad knows) and that's why he's protecting her.

[@Davtwan]

She needs more than a therapist at this point.

[@smarieisme8009]

"Grippy sock palace" LOOOOOOL!!!

[@raeris]

Tina doesn't love the husband, she loves the family that adopted her but feels insecure about her place there. So she clings on to her siblings and tries to connect herself by getting married to either of the brother. She probably feels the family she has now is just waiting to abandon here and has been waiting for it to happen since childhood. She needs reassurance of her place in the family and some role or thing she can cling on to that makes her irreplacable.

[@kasa9884]

What was the husband's very large family like dyring their childhood that caused the oldest biological brother to leave the country for college and just stay in Europe permanently and go no contact with the family. Was it the little obsessed sister? The stress of the parents having too many kids through a combination of biological births and adopted at birth children?

[@alyzu4755]

Tina's family needs to keep her far away from OP and her family. This isn't just about her "being dramatic", she is seriously disturbed. She needs more help than she's gotten so far. She's a danger to herself and to those around her, especially OP. If things keep going on this way.

[@candiebarr6745]

Who has a baby shower for their 3rd kid? And the OP would have been in the target demographic when High School Musical came out.

[@peepeepoopoo2710]

when you said crochet, my ears perked up bc i AM crocheting right now lol

[@ebayrose]

That final update about the other eldest brother made me think maybe he acted on the adoptive little sister's crush and then just fled and never came back to avoid it all. And the adoptive sister transfered everything to the other brother to cope. She needs a therapist that will force her to dig deep and let go. I hope it's not this or something worse like the adoptive father or anyone else having groomed and molested her as a child. Unfortunately the nature and endurance of her mental problems seemed to indicate this. There was a similar story, except the girl was bio-sister and OP was only dating one of the brothers. Turned out dad, uncle, and 10+ years older brother and 2 male cousins were touching her and the brother OP was dating was completely unaware until OP and her boyfriend tried to address the sister's obsession with him and escalating jealousy towards OP. Mom was in denial until the innocent brother got the lot of incestuous pedos arrested. Victim sister was sent to live with maternal grandmother and therapy. Boyfriend moved in with OP's parents even though OP lived elsewhere with roommates. Mom moved in with her grandparents in a different state with the two younger minor sons. Pedo group went to prison.

[@abelink9229]

I know OP's husband is not responsible for Tina's feelings, but he's responsible for drawing some goddamn boundaries! Like not letting her hang of him, smooching him on the cheek etc. He's not "ignoring" her, he's enabling her.

[@lizzykayOT7]

11:20 - This cracked me up, "let the Darkness flow through you" XD Ahh, Reddit is hilarious sometimes.

[@ea748]

Also wondering if it's possible that Sean abused Tina when she was younger. There could also be other abuse that has occurred with other family members (such as FIL) that could have fucked her up. It's really suspicious how they have a large family with adoptive children and poor relations between several of them.

[@madambutterfly1997]

This sounds like a whole fucking anime and it's an extremely common Trope that makes no damn sense. All the people in the world to develop romantic feelings for how dare you allow yourself to feel anything of that caliber towards a guy who's your brother (in spirit and on paper)

[@RedditCauseTherapyIsExpensive]

I have 2 adopted brothers I've never looked at them as anything but my big brother and my younger brother. My oldest brother was a senior when he was adopted and i was like 3 he treated my like his practice kid and spoiled me rotten. My little brother was 16 (6 months younger than me) when he was adopted and I knew him 3 years prior due to him being my cousin's best friend and them shareing a birthday. Not once have any of us ever tried to pull crap like story 1 and they have been siblings since birth.

[@umbrasunbro2142]

I’m so confused! How is it that the comment section are finding ways to make the husband seem complacent and/or the a-hole. I mean how much more obvious can you make it that you don’t want someone then saying no or… *checks notes* oh, LITERALLY PROPOSING TO AND MARRYING SOMEONE ELSE IN FRONT OF EVERYONE YOU KNOW THAT WOULD SHOW UP!? “He needs to put his foot down and make it clear” naw, bro’s foot is so far don the floor is cracking under the immense pressure. SHE (the Sister in Law) is responsible for her behavior and the way she deals with this. SiL is the one being weird, creepy, and obsessive over someone who isn’t into her. Husband not being a total jerk about it doesn’t make him complacent. Just like how women sometimes feel corned by a weirdo who won’t take no for an answer me feel that too. Because that’s what’s going on here; SiL wouldn’t take no as an answer.

[@bellasmom2597]

Sean may have been intimate with her. Or he may have been victim of her obsession delusions too.

[@lunaticbz3594]

Our minds gravitate to the theories you mentioned since it would tie together the story with this additional tid bit of info about Sean. But that extra info very well may have nothing to do with anything.

[@pigalottafattenton5003]

I think something happened with Sean too. My gut feeling is he’s hiding from something he did to be gone for 20 years (I’m guessing based on ages), never to visit or have any contact, and the family doesn’t know where he is. It may be a no contact because family sucks situation, but this feels like something else.

[@tracicolvis7382]

​@@pigalottafattenton5003I wonder if he was sent away because they caught him molesting Tina. The way they rug sweep her issues and he hasn't come back home is suspicious. Also he left when she was 10 and she started asking to kiss and cuddle op's hubby within a year of that. Having a crush is one thing. Requesting physical/sexual contact can be a hallmark of past sexual abuse in a child.

[@nixxyhasthoughts]

@@pigalottafattenton5003I think it’s unfair to make such an unsubstantiated leap. Not all family is close.

[@pigalottafattenton5003]

@@nixxyhasthoughts not all family is close and I acknowledged that. With the limited information we have, we will never know. She may just be nutty and have an inappropriate attachment. I still feel something is off with this situation though.

[@Ashbrash1998]

I have never heard the term "grippy sock palace"and it made me laugh despite the messed up story.

[@scoutgirl1991]

Wow, what a crazy story! Tina is totaly insane! Even if siblings know that one or both of them are adopted, being that obsessed with your brother is NOT OKAY. Especially since OPs husband only sees Tina as his sister. And Tina mocking her brothers wife and children makes it even worse. It is one thing if a 5 years old girl says: "I had a dream that I got married with my big brother and I had a pink wedding dress." and a few days later the dream is more or less forgotten. That kind of situation is somewhat normal in my mind. But if an adult woman wants to get married to her older brother, that's not normal at all! And I understand wanting to make sure that your siblings future spouse is a good person and not some violent drug dealer. But come on! Saying things like: "But you said you never wanted to get married or have children!". What if I changed my mind?

[@StephBer1]

I think, in her own sick way, SIL was trying to actually be an even closer member of adoptive family. She knows she's adopted and doesn't feel like she belongs so she wants one of the brothers to marry her to bond her to the family even more. She is seriously disturbed.

[@amethystanne4586]

Oooo, Mark! In your outré, you mentioned, “…whatever you are doing, a bit of crochet….” I laughed out loud. I am test-driving a crochet pattern for a lacey cover for Christmas tree balls/baubles. Augh, I wish Curiosity would go into a 30-day hibernation every once in a while.

[@EluneAnzu]

I'm definitely wondering what's Sean's side of the story since it's mentioned she had a crush on him before the husband and from the sound of it is no contact with the family, I know it could just be a coincidence but it definitely sounds like he's no contact because the sister was like that with him too and the family enabled it there too. Also, yes what she did was gross, but I still feel kind of bad for her, the parents let her down since this has been going on her entire life and it wasn't dealt with properly, just enabled.

[@moomama217]

As a young mom i made friends with another woman my age. She was a soldier. I had 2 young kids at the time. 1st she got obsessed with my kids. In a super creepy way. Like she wanted to take over as mommy. Hubs and i had invited her over and we went to church together several times b4 this. Then she became obsessed with me. She got her hair cut like mine. Then got the same triple ear piercings and cartilage piercing i had. She got glasses like mine. Started dressing like me. Got the same hair cut. Then started asking if she could pick up the kids at school. She started stocking me and the kids. When i asked her to back off she went crazy! She would call in the middle of the night just to scream at me. We got her to back off when i threatened to call the cops. I gave the schools her picture and put her on the do not allow near my kids lisT, UNTIL THEY STARTED HIGHSCHOOL. The kids were heartbroken to lose her. I had to explain in age appropriate terms that her mind was sick and she was dangerous and they could NEVER see her or go anywhere with her again, even if she said i told her it was ok.

[@chryssesandchaos]

I am curious how this Tina became like that, OP said her husband and his other siblings were all adopted when they were babies, so they grew up seeing each other as real siblings, so I wonder how did Tina develop this kind of obsession with her brother and what trauma did she experience? She needs to be checked in a mental institution.

[@jamestomlin5525]

I'm willing to bet everything that the older bio brother SA her and her being crazy is due to trauma. I too am a SA victim and in my 30s, while not as crazy I'm still messed up over it 30 years later

[@elizabethescalante8114]

DAMN! I agree with whoever said that she's dangerous! OP and her husband NEED to keep their guards up and keep a close watch over their children until she's either locked away for good, or pushing up daisies! Because creepy stalkers may be guilty for a lot of things, but being quitters is NOT one of them! And now that the family has (thankfully) woken up and doing something about it, she's at an INCREDIBLY high risk of going into the mindset of "If I can't have him, then nobody can!" Although, if I were OP, I would chastise and criticized the husbands parents for not nipping this in the butt years ago! I'd tell them that "The fact that your eldest son left for Europe for college and never came back home should have told you something! Haven't you two ever stop to wonder WHY is it that he hasn't been home, or exactly how far Tina took her so-called "crush" on him?!😡 THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN THE FIRST MAJOR RED FLAG FOR YOU TWO!!!"

[@sandracox4341]

Have OP and husband moved since the house warming party? Because Tina knew where that house was, but OP kept saying Tina didn't have the address. 🤷‍♀️

[@2Bjaded1]

Maybe Sean went NC when he told the parents and they probably brushed it off. He might've had an incident with Tina that could've landed him in prison behind one of her stunts. It just seems like he was rattled to the point of going NC just to let go of anything that might bring him into contact with her and their enabling.

[@rylashadow18]

Tina's obessessed with OP's hubby. I wouldn't want her there either. She probably thinks "Well we're not technically siblings so we can be together and will be" which is just disgusting. Thing is this new "boyfriend" is her way of trying to make her brother jealous then possibly have the poor thing propose to her or something to take away from the OP's moment. Yeah she needs to be blocked, denied access to the house as well as OP and her children. That wall of paragraphs should be screenshot shared amongst the family and told she's over stepped this boundary for the last time. She's was lucky enough to be considered family before now. Now she's considered dead. She's not nor will she ever be welcomed to their home and life. That OP's hubby is happily married and completely committed to his family and marriage. So any attempts at breaking them up for her delusions will be met with the cops being called. This hill? Yeah not only would I be dying for it. I'd be fighting to keep it that way to my dying breath. To the person trying to out OP on Reddit you suck. She was being tortured, abused, assaulted verbally, had her husband stalked by this psycho and you want to have her charged for that? OP needs validation that this wackadoodle isn't safe to be around and was given resounding support. Makes me think this person is Tina or is someone like her. I believe he never touched her. She for sure would've loved rubbing that in OP's face. He always saw her as family while she saw him as an object. Disgusting.

[@CharlesGriswold]

"Going for a cheeky walk..." No, sir, I do not wear shorty shorts when I go for walks. Nobody wants to see that.

[@ladyofthelake93]

The SIL sounds terrifying. They need to move away.

[@gl7881]

Wow that sister-in-law... her behaviour and her obsession wouldn't even be acceptable in the fiction world

[@veezopolis]

The beginning of this story is the plot of High School Musical so i already don't believe a single word of this story is real

[@nela3986]

The older brother just buzzing off to another continent and never contacting his family again is giving me bad vibes... Mental issues can be hereditary, but often enough it's not. If she was adopted by birth it wasn't a trauma inflicted by her bio family.

[@LessaCaira]

I'm wondering if Sean had an inappropriate relationship with Tina. That doesn't change the fact that Tina needs better mental help cause what she's doing isn't working. But being molested gives you weird ideas of what love is and how to show affection. Might be the start point is what I'm saying

[@yesthatmousyiris4887]

Tina has a lot of attachment problems she needs to stay away from OP and Husband. And get lots of help.

[@kizo_wotw4717]

OMG! I have a theory why SIL acts like this. I think she was molested by OB in her childhood. Because think about it, OB left the country to never return and she, being used to it, thinks that everything that happened is normal and seeks that closeness with her other brother. I hope that in the name of Arceus I am making a mistake. 😢

[@Shortypants1215]

Homeboy referred to the Hapsburgs! 😝😭😭😭

[@lorrainemontagnon1537]

Such a great day ! Much love to everyone, sitting back now enjoying my morning routine and sharing it with Mark and the waffle gang.

[@broken_queer_but_fighting8589]

🤗🤗💜💜🧇🧇

[@readerunite]

I feel dumb, but I just figured out that SIL is an adopted daughter from birth. I am adopted from birth and this is unusual disturbing behavior. Something is definitely wrong with this woman. Could it be that the older brother was sent overseas for inappropriate behavior with the SIL? Perhaps an unpopular opinion, but this did start somewhere and a request for cuddling and kissing at 10 seems like something is up. The older brother did leave right around that time that the younger brother became the next love focus. Either way, definitely she is an avoid and needs a security alarm. Also a well trained dog that listens to you and your family.

[@stephjovi]

Tbf it's a baby shower not a wedding. If stepsister comes and causes drama, it might make a rather mondain event to be super exciting and memorable

[@paperkay]

Creepy and heartbreaking, really. What do you even do? Those poor parents did everything right and one of the kids turned out to be unstable...

[@papakumabear]

I like to listen while playing silly tower defense games. Your voice is really nice and soothing while I play. Thanks for being a part of my day, Mark!