My Sister Claims Our Brother Is Manipulating Our Grandparents To Take Their Assets r/Relationships

[@romonaelrod7870]

I agree with you Mark, the legal fees should have come from the greedy sisters share of the estate.

[@niyablake]

Then she would have dragged it out till there was nothing left

[@Alteusgirl]

sadly not possible since those defence cost were to defend the trust & grandparents it came from their money. it's sad but true

[@addicted2mako]

It sounded like at that point she just wanted to make sure that if she couldn’t get more money, nobody should be able to

[@maurer3d]

Actually since there was a no contest clause, she technically shouldn't have got anything.

[@fcold9402]

Sister is playing herself. Lawyer #4 accepts the case because he gets paid win or lose. The sister is just digging deeper hole.

[@mbyerly9680]

This is a common thing in some divorces. A lawyer keeps egging on his client until everything is gone into his pockets.

[@artemishallihan8973]

I feel like the trustee lawyer could have filled an injunction against the sister from filling any more requests as some areas have protections against 'undue burdens' and the sister was bordering on harassment through legal filings

[@mkuti-childress3625]

I was wondering that, too. But I’m sure it’s probably more complicated than I could even imagine. Plus, with all of the attorneys on the other side dropping out, I’ll bet more than one would have talked to the brother’s attorney about it. I’m sure the guy did whatever he could in the situation, and, if not, Reddit would have blown up about it!

[@kathydurow6814]

Pity the trust didn't/couldn't call up the sister's loans. No money = no legal fee payments for her.

[@groofromtheup5719]

she figured "if I can't have it, nobody can!" then she got desperate for cash.

[@ThePinkBinks]

I’ve been around trustee/POA stuff my whole life and nearly every Trustee is attacked by a greedy relative who wants no relationship but wants the money. That’s why no contest is such a big deal.

[@brigidtheirish]

And apparently was completely ignored in this case because the sister still got an inheritance.

[@mkuti-childress3625]

The more I learn about this kind of thing, the more more I realize how lucky my family is. When my dad died, a lot of feelings came out-as they do-but everyone in the family was very careful about what said to each other and made sure that everything was fair. The only worrisome issue was an in law who seemed to realize that she needed to keep away from the situation.

[@DePhoegonIsle]

@@brigidtheirish no contest =/= no inheritance. No Contest is effectively a legal shield & stop gap from altering or changing the will after the fact. She was entitled to the inheritance as stated. The No contest prevents her from wrapping up others & attempting to take more than what was stated.

[@brigidtheirish]

@@DePhoegonIsle Except no contest clauses often include a line about anyone contesting gets cut out *and* the sister contested it *anyway.* *REPEATEDLY.*

[@brigidtheirish]

@A H Didn't say he *was.*

[@me5706]

Even before the updates OP posted I knew the brother wasn't stealing from his grandparents. I was a care taker for my grandparents after they lived with us for 10 years. It is amazing how quickly some one can go from being able to taking care of themselves to needing care. The only thing I can fault him on is not keeping his sisters updated on their condition. Yes the one sister would still be a manipulative brat but it may have helped OP. Though I know from experience that unless people live with their elderly parents at all times they tend to be under the illusion they can still take care of themselves even when their is evidence they need more help.

[@kimmurphy6621]

I agree with Mark, why wasn't legal fees taken out of the sister? I guess the brother just wanted to be done with her in the end. He sounds like a good guy. Hopefully he never has to deal with sister again.

[@brigidtheirish]

What the hell happened to the "no contest" clause of the trust? Sister shouldn't have gotten a *cent!*

[@niyablake]

@@brigidtheirish after over 4 years and draining the fund I bet the brother just wanted it to be done with This sis was the tpoe to drag it out till nothing was left is she did not get a cent

[@MrJpaynebb]

The legal fees were charged to the trust because the brother's lawyers were defending the trust. Getting the sister to pay the legal fees would be another court case which is a big hill to climb. Her greed to not payback her loans and her greed to control and drain the trust is why she didn't want to settle. People will always fight over the family trust/will because of greed.

[@brigidtheirish]

@@niyablake After all this time, you'd think the brother's lawyer would have enough material to file for harassment or activate the "no contest" clause or *something.*

[@niyablake]

@@brigidtheirish With out knowing the country , it could be some quark of the law .

[@ItsYaBoiV]

This could have been the crapshow that occurred between me and my older sisters when my dad was diagnosed with Alzheimer's. My middle sister and I took care of dad during his decline, but eldest sister was CONVINCED we were lying, forcing him into a home, and doing everything to take his money. It was such a mess. Long before the diagnoses, dad had very clear issues with distraction, memory loss, and just needed help with little things. I've seen it before, people like to pretend sometimes that their parents and grandparents can just keep going forever without help. Good on the brother honestly for taking care of them, because it really sounds like the sister cares only about the money and not the grandparents at all.

[@damien678]

Wait... so why is it bad to bring meals to your 90 y.o. grandparents? To do their lawn, shovel snow... after losing your parents, isn't it understandable to want to get closer with your grandparents? To want to help them out? And no matter how active a bloody 90 y.o. is, it's fair to help them out like that. This is already such a weird perspective and I'm barely 3 minutes in.

[@lina9535]

This I agree with, at least in part. (And I'm not even 2 minutes in lol, at 1.18) I lived with my maternal grandpa after grandma passed (mom and I moved in with him so he wasn't alone in his house, she later moved out and I stayed), and I didn't move out until like 22 (I was 10 when we moved in with him). He was in his late 80s when I moved out, and while I was living there, I did help out with stuff. I did insist on shoveling in winter, as our driveway could get slippery, and one of his health issue (that he didn't take meds for) was bad knees. Otherwise it was pretty standard blood pressure meds and small things. Up til his passing he was 100% of a sound mind (he passed at like 91), he cooked for himself (and me when I lived there, "his kitchen, I'm his granddaughter, so he cooks" - his words), cleaned, etc. Now I know that while my grandpa was healthy for his age, when Alzheimers enters the picture though... things change. Depending on the person, if doesn't really matter how healthy, active, or independant they are if they get Alzheimers. My old bowling club coach got it (after losing his wife to dementia, and she'd passed away), and he was in his late 80s at the time. Sure he was still cycling around, but I did hear one time that a neighbour (my coach lived down the road from grandpa, and ngl, when the Alzheimers set in, he got a bit inappropriate with me, which gramps shut down asap), had found him fallen over in a ditch with his bike. He was lucky to not have broken anything. If I remember correctly, his children put him in a care facility (they are very good where I live), after he almost burned down his house by accident. Also, has OP even talked to the grandparents at all about this? If they are ok with being in a home, etc? I personally don't think OP's even asked.

[@ComaLies225]

I really don’t blame OP, she sounded way too young when she got caught up in her sisters manipulation. It’s rather scary how “family” acts when money is involved. Reminds me soo much of my narcissistic aunt lol

[@saratronus]

Yeah it sounded like her sister manipulated her and I hate it when people all Blame Young people for being manipulated like if they had an control over it 🙄 It just seems like another way of victim blaming

[@WobblesandBean]

She bashed her brother for doing kind things for her grandparents, long before her sister began manipulating her. She's not innocent in this.

[@justinecorrington4106]

My only issue with op was she was stunned her brother helped ninety years old grandparents helped with chores, was beyond her. And she thought shoveling snow was ridiculous… selfish greedy entitled both of the sisters. And the sister trying to remove outstanding loan; straight out says she owes money; probably a lot

[@locusxe1411]

@@saratronus it’s actually pretty understandable why people blamed Op. Like sure you’re young but you should have noticed something was off when she said it was weird how the brother was helping the grandparents.

[@saratronus]

@@WobblesandBean When did she outwardly Bashed her brother ? Permont the OP has stated it seems like the sister was doing most of this although P did was lose Stand by her in the legal papers but as soon as OP saw what the sister was doing she left

[@maddy8328]

Story 1:" I'm mad my brother is helping our very old grandparents >:(, so we're taking him to court!' like wtf?

[@bncain]

Yikes my step dad did this with his siblings they were in court for years. There lawyers didn’t care because the longer it went the more they were going to get paid from the estate. Years of fighting for them to end up with so little. I will admit his sister was trying to keep the entire estate for herself. She cost herself 10s of thousands of dollars.

[@Fangs4DaMemories]

This... this is EXACTLY what is going to happen when my parents pass. My brother and I are executors of our parents trust, but have 2 other siblings. One is a Bi-polar Narcissist who loves playing the victim.

[@hendyo_98]

Jesus I hope your parents affairs are in order, and that they have a clause in their will stating that the one who tries to contest the will, the legal fees will be coming out of their pocket, not the trust.

[@badkitty4922]

I PRAY your parents have an addendum in place that if ANYONE tries to start trouble over how their assets are devided, THAT person gets NOTHING! It's quite legal here in America. I don't know where you are, though. It still might be worth looking into.

[@kathydurow6814]

Hope you have good legal reps. And take steps to minimise what such AHs can do.

[@Mewse1203]

Story 1: "my brother helped my grandparents but I don't see why he should help them if they can do it themselves." Because your brother is a good guy who cares?? I don't mean this to sound Braggy because we weren't the only ones(wife's sister and husband also helped) but my wife's Grandma was 92 before she stopped being able to work in her garden. We regularly helped her do stuff around the house and garden before and after that point. Just because they CAN do it themselves doesn't mean it's not nice to help them. It was kind of sickening hearing OP say that. It sounds like the sister is protecting HER behavior/thought process onto the brother. She also owes the grandparents money I bet. Edit after mini update: why didn't she call him when she first had questions? I'm not sure "sister is convincing" is a valid excuse. But I was right about the sister owing money. Edit after 1st real update: I am more forgiving of the "sister is convincing thing" because based on the ages, she may not be aware of how shady sister can be. Edit after final update: she jumped over a quarter to earn a penny. Besides the fact that she costs the trust $600000 which means she loves $200000, How much did she pay her 5 lawyers to spend years harassing them? Every email is a quarter hour of time that that that lawyer billed to her and all for NOTHING. Incredibly sad.

[@claws2129]

A fool and their money are soon parted.

[@GMAMEC]

The first line regarding their independence got me too! They are in their 90s.

[@juliemcgugan1244]

This all sounds like an absolute nightmare! Poor OP’s Brother! I thought my family and I had it bad, with all four of my grandparents dying within months of a sudden, unexpected terminal cancer diagnosis, 3 of them within three consecutive years. It was awful, not going to lie, to watch them go through that, but seeing what happened to vulnerable sick people, dying on their own in hospitals without being able to have loved-ones by their side, over the these past years, makes me glad as hell that my grandparents didn’t live see or go through this! Two of them lived through the Second World War and saw horrific things and I don’t think they could have managed to stay calm through this pandemic.

[@Metonymy1979]

Money can make terrible people horrible.

[@infinessia4019]

My great aunt tried to do the same thing with her mother, my great grandmother, claiming because she was a doctor she would know best, when she really planned to take her assets and put her into a cheap nursing home without the needed memory care. thankfully my other great aunt and grandmother basically said over their dead body and saved her.

[@groofromtheup5719]

Aunt was certain she deserved more of the remaining land from Grandma's estate than any other child, so she got this alzheimer's patient to sign away my Dad's cut to her. My aunt is basically a shut-in. I have no idea why she even wanted that 40 acres of swamp. Not like my Dad needed it either (he has several better 40s), but there is certainly a principal of the matter in play. Dad has basically written her out of his life. I'm sure my cousin will just sell it all when my aunt dies, probably to my Dad if will buy it. Maybe I will.

[@infinessia4019]

@A H trust me, no one wants Doctor Aunt Amy for a doctor, she's a cruel calculating woman, who thinks because she's a doctor, she's essentially a god.

[@infinessia4019]

@@groofromtheup5719 Was she the oldest? My Great Aunt was the oldest and felt as a result since she was also far more 'successful', she deserved her mother's assets.

[@groofromtheup5719]

@A H her mind was just sound enough at the time that she would have been devastated by legal action declaring her of unsound mind, that likely wouldn't have worked anyways. This was more than 20 years ago. Also, as mentioned, the land isn't worth much.

[@groofromtheup5719]

@@infinessia4019 not the oldest, but one of the leaches that moved in to "take care of Mom" after my Grandpa died.

[@LLSmoothJ]

What gets me was that her legal fees came out from the trust. It almost made me think that she was deliberately doing this to reduce the trust as much as possible, in a "If I can't have it no one will" type of attitude.

[@kathydurow6814]

No, the 600K was the trust's side of the legal fees. She would have paid her own on top of that. But possibly there is more to pay on the trust's side since her brother was using someone decent instead of ambulance chasers, and all the 'discovery' documents would need to be provided by the trust, so more work on their side. Less work in asking questions than safely answering them (I used to be in the accounting field, similar time costs apply, so this is from experience)

[@redlioness9782]

Story 1. Op: “My grandparents have Alzheimer” Also OP: “My brother keeps going to their house and helping them out when they don’t need it” Me: bro… how many neurons you burned under the sun to write that and not see how dumb it sounds?

[@Metal_Mouth]

God the op in this story, they really went along with the sister and not once questioned her brother for his side. Op at least realized that the sister was manipulating them, they're young so it's understandable especially with the age differences, but speaking of the sister she is just the absolute worst. She tried to destroy all of what brother is doing so she can get away with basically scamming half a mill from her senile grandparents and some their assets and was manipulating them at what should of have been a peaceful last few years of their lives and getting them to turn on the brother, the one who had their best interest at heart and who took care of them when no one else would throughout all of this. The sister has so little shame in this, just a soul sucking waste of a human.

[@jdkillzone]

If it's any consolation at all, I think it's fairly safe to say that sister will burn right on through that money and have nothing to show for it within a couple of years. People like her don't know how to make money, just spend it. She's burned bridges with her family that will never be rebuilt, and she will die broke and alone wailing about how unfair it all is.

[@kyriacarica5862]

Mark, hearing you talk about your dad made me tear up. I could feel just how much you love him. ❤️

[@twokidsmom5309]

Sorry for the brother who cared and was made to be the villain. So happy that he was there to protect, love and support the grands who seemed to always be there for them all.

[@msredux]

I'm glad my family doesn't have money, there will be no fighting about my parents state.

[@0Jenna7]

Your comments reminded me how much my mum's brother disagreed with grandma's treatment in her final week. And she didn't really involve us, her kids, in those "discussions" or anything else dealing with him. I feel so sad for those two, having to go through that.

[@hyperplaguerat]

This story makes me so grateful my half siblings and I didn't fight over our dad's estate. It was such a relief to leave things to my older brother and not have to deal with selling his house or managing any of the paperwork. I feel so bad for OP and her brother bc her sister manipulated and used her, hurt her grandparents by only interacting to stir up drama, and relentlessly harassed them in court.

[@janicewilcox8590]

They should have totally taken the lawyer's fees out of the sister's share.

[@justozzy5559]

I really shouldn't have but I definitely snickered at the line "then came lawyer number 5"

[@broken_queer_but_fighting8589]

This will help me relax before a new doctor appointment for a medical study

[@katiesmith2031]

Everything is going to be fine

[@broken_queer_but_fighting8589]

@@katiesmith2031 thanks m8 much love 🤗🤗💜💜

[@carolroberts4614]

You'll be right!☝

[@broken_queer_but_fighting8589]

@@carolroberts4614 thanks m8 luckily it's just a really bad case of hypermobility

[@broken_queer_but_fighting8589]

@@katiesmith2031 yeah just a really bad care of hypermobility

[@Don-Angel]

Holy crap just paused after first section and this reeks of op sis wanting her hands on everything and trying to screw the brother over and make him guilty of stuff that's a lie. Just adding I'm still watching Ur vids each evening but not commenting as I'm on edge of needing to go to hospital but trying hard to avoid it. Keep up the great work mark and fellow waffles

[@CarlottaHall]

Such a sad thing how the responsible child taking care of the parents and responsible for their estate becomes the bad guy with the greedy squabbles from the family once the patents are gone. I was in his position with y grandparents. Grandpa passed last, AMD I as the executor dealt with all of the soul draining responsibilities of settling. The will called for what money was left be divided among the great grandkids. After everything there was $5000 left and 6 grandkids to set education funds for. To make the minimum to open the accounts I had to contribute over $1000 of my own momey to set them all up. I had to deal with the brother whose child was never actively involved with them and was specifically excluded in their will; the kids who wanted to use the money for down payments on cars to get to classes, the 2nd youngest who was angry I didn't cash out all the money to give to her since her 18 days younger cousin was never going to go to classes anyway. I envy the families who pull together after loss of a loved one- large sums or small that job sucks. OPs brother is a saint and hero but her sister is horrible.

[@gloriasowle8083]

Yep, yep, knew it. Sister owed money.

[@Jynxxy13ravedoll]

The part that really rubbed me the wrong way was the part about them being upset about the brother bringing them food, doing yard work and taking them to the doctor "because they can do it themselves". Like how dare he do his grandparents that raised him any favors, what a scum bag. It is really upsetting when people choose to assume the worst of someone trying to do something kind.

[@shebakoby]

In regards to people with oldtimers/dementia, there is an assisted living facility not that far away, where a woman with some form of dementia was in her own apartment with a stove fridge etc, but they would go down for meals in the dining room. However this woman wanted toast, but put the toaster on the stove onto a burner, then turned the stove on. Naturally this caused a fire, which while it didn't spread much, did a lot of smoke damage. The person was removed from there and after they got out of the hospital for smoke inhalation etc, they were sent to full care (a room without stove etc).

[@SamanthaTotimeh]

Hey Mark! Thanks for uploading. You're probably my favourite Reddit channel tbh. Love your personality. I kinda miss when you say "much love guys" before reading 🥺 lol have a good evening, hopefully it doesn't rain

[@marisaJ1]

From the moment i heard about the outstanding loans being deducted in the agreement It sounded like the sister owed her granparents money for a loan & she doesn't want to have that deducted from anything she inherited. A person with alzheimers needs a lot of care & probably far too much for a person with kids & it sounds like the brother was doing a lot, without burdening his siblings with the responsibility. The sister took complete advantage of her younger brother & making false accusations about the other brother. She's awful. She doesn't deserve anything. She should get prosecuted for writing fake lawyer letters.

[@broken_queer_but_fighting8589]

Hey you yes you remember to take care of yourself gosh darn it, you are always valid, and I love you and care about you so please take care of yourself 💜💜🤗🤗💜💜🤗🤗

[@kimmikage]

Um I know it might just be a user name, but your not broken you are golden, just like with Japanese pottery where they fix it with gold, wear your scars (even if they are just emotional) with pride as they are proof that you will out survive the plebs x

[@broken_queer_but_fighting8589]

@@kimmikage awww thats so sweet thanks, you've really made my day, much love to you m8, hope your day is magical🤗🤗💜💜

[@kimmikage]

@@broken_queer_but_fighting8589 no worries, I saw that you left a random nice message for a stranger and people often do that when they feel really bad so I wanted to wish something good right back at ya just to remind you that your kindness is seen x.... And i was feeling down until I read your comment x

[@jessicapalmer3455]

@@broken_queer_but_fighting8589 YOU are valid and loved! I want all the best for you! 💙💙 If you need a mom, I have a mom judgemental ear!

[@jessicapalmer3455]

@@kimmikage 💙💙 to you too! Some days are hard, but that's what makes the good ones all the better!

[@JayeEllis]

12:05 - Anyone else hear the Phantom of the Opera? "If these demands are not met, a disaster beyond imagination will occur!" *cue: orchestra*

[@jennilynne1977]

A video from Mark! Just what I needed. My car died a couple blocks away from my house. Managed to get it in a parking lot and get it started again to get home. Fortunately, I already had an appointment to get the car worked on tomorrow and the auto shop is about 3 blocks away from my house. I hope everyone is having a great day/evening/night! Peace, hugs and love to everyone!

[@juliemcgugan1244]

Glad you got home safe and sound! Hope the rest of your week goes to plan!

[@jennilynne1977]

@@juliemcgugan1244 me too. I was amazed that I managed to remain calm when it died in the road. I just put on my hazzard lights and managed to get it into a parking lot to prevent any possible accident. Normally when things like that happen I turn into a blubbering mess.

[@carolroberts4614]

Rotten luck Jenni! Hope it's nothing too expensive! Ours kept not starting , and we'd have to wait for ages before it would start. Turned out to be the battery, which wasn't the most expensive thing it could have been.

[@jennilynne1977]

@@carolroberts4614 we dropped it off at the mechanic after my husband got home from work, so it would be one of the first ones he works on. We're having spark plugs changed as well as having the fuel filter and one other thing changed. We're hoping that one of those things is why the car died like that. Thank God (or whichever higher power you believe in) that the car died when I was within walking distance instead of when I was 30 miles away from home and would have to wait at least 3 hours for my husband to get off work along with having my pupper with me. Buddy (my pupper) is probably the only reason I was able not to go into a HUGE panic attack when the car died and wouldn't start right back up.

[@louellacharlton4425]

Tyvm Mark. Stay safe please. PEACE

[@wheelsndealz]

The whole time I was wondering that too. All that shit she was doing was just costing her more and more money. Whether she paid out of pocket or out of the estate, her harassment was just costing her more and more. What was she trying to accomplish? Just because she didn't want to pay her own debt she lost out on 200k. Such a horrible human being that doesn't deserve the family, money, and any bit of joy she had in her miserable life.

[@damien678]

I also cannot BELIEVE some of the sister's complaints are about the brother... renting out property at below market rate, and lying about letting others live there for free. Even if he did that, the brother sounds altruistic enough that I'd treat him in good faith about it. So many people desperately need homes to be below market rate in order to even have a home.

[@rasharddauvergne342]

What was so difficult about op just talking to the brother first before assuming. Smh

[@TheMimiSard]

For some reason the thing that really caught my ear was clothing from Target. I know there is a chain named Target in America, but if this was here in Australia, then Target cloth, while not exactly the cheapest ever (that's Kmart), is still very low cost. I mean that Kmart has shirts for $12, while Target has higher quality $30 shirts. This is just me wondering if this was in Australia or not.

[@atinyevil1383]

This story reminds me of the family in Knives Out trying to find a way to contest the will.

[@hubbachubba1]

I’m a hospice nurse. I see family members who don’t participate in any care or responsibilities who try to grab the money. Also, sometimes the care is relegated to certain family members & the family members who do nothing (except wait for money) to criticize the care being given. But do they ever offer to give the primary caregiver a few hours respite? Of course not! I can easily see who actually cares & who only cares about money. It’s reprehensible.

[@tandelogan2825]

Wow! This is my sister and SIL they would also project their own motives on helping your grand parents.... I am always surprised how some look at their parents/GP assets as their own...

[@diddykitty746]

My art class is just PILING on the work, good thing I have some Mark Narations videos to listen to

[@LilySaintSin]

I agree, Mark. The brother helping the brother helping the dad is a good thing, surely.

[@drawingdame7718]

Couldn't they file a claim of harassment against the sister? Especially since it's been proven multiple times that she doesn't have a case?

[@Swnsasy]

The moment I heard the, "Outstanding loans removed" I KNEW the sister was up to no good!! Ooh I'm thinking she is shady!!!

[@APlatapus]

There really should be laws against lawyers who take cases that they know are a loss. That and sister should've been on the hook for the 600k that was wasted.

[@joaolima7131]

Everyone have a right to defense, it would be unfair to those accused of something they didn't do, even if they lose, but usually theses types of lawyers who only think on the money get a bad rep. That's why you search about them before asking them to take your case. What they are doing isn't necessarily illegal, just imoral.

[@APlatapus]

@@joaolima7131 sorry, I didn't mean it like oh if you lose you pay. I meant like if the judge can see it's a frivolous lawsuit. Something where the defendant is doing for the sake of wasting money or wasting time. (Something large businesses do all the time to prevent individuals from going against them). Stuff like that. I should've specificed

[@veezopolis]

Story 1: OP is blindly listening to their sister, and has no idea what is actually going on and just wants grandparents money.

[@rubymeaddle]

I am so glad my sister and I are close enough to not fight over family shit

[@avalineriley6809]

Soooo, brother essentially put his life on pause to care for his grandparents. He got put in charge of their finances and not only looked after their money but increased it through clever investing. Once his grandparents condition got too much for him to handle he made sure they got into an assisted facility to give them the most comfort and then the greedy sister comes along to try and steal it all.

[@RobertCampsall]

I had a cousin who was left 1/2 of her father's Estate, and the other half was to be distributed among the rest of the family (she had no paternal siblings). The rest was to be distributed among the decedents siblings and their children. The Estate, including a large property of several dozen acres of a farm, originally was valued at just over $10 million. 15 years of her aunts, uncles an cousins contesting the will ended with the Estate being distributed as the Will intended. After all legal fees, the property was sold via a forced sale, the value remaining was $600,000 (so $300,000 to my cousin, the same for everyone else). What a smart bunch that family was.

[@FredRated1967]

Seems like OP and her brother need to give their sister some severe wall-to-wall counseling.

[@charitynordstrom5734]

All of the lawyer's fees should have come out of the sister's share

[@peachesnsht]

OMG! The greed!

[@danishaussie63]

I shocked the sister wasnt deemed litigious and forced to cease and desist. All the lawyers she got and amount of unnecessary work that was made plus excellent records kept shouldve been enough to prove it....and no, the greedy sister shouldve been made to pay court costs.

[@nadiaoneill3570]

Awww dammit, I'm sitting here tearing up because Mark's so damn genuin in his feelings. The way he talks about family just gets me, and stop chopping those damn onions! 😭

[@KCCAT5]

Holy hell! This is why I tell people all the time if you're going to leave anything to your family members when you die give it to them while you're still alive. It stops the fighting in the end and it'll also help them avoid paying taxes on lots of money haha

[@mbyerly9680]

There's a truism that death will either bring a family together or tear them apart. Even without money involved, that's a sad truth I've seen over and over again.

[@ivymcassey2405]

My dad died the night before Thanksgiving so less than 3 months ago. My sister lived in the same state as him so he figured it would just be simpler to put my sister in charge of everything. We were all unsure if after the paying for the funeral and settling anything he owed if there would be any money left over. My father being a lawyer realized legally leaving any money left after the funeral and paying off what he owed to my sister would be easier with her living in the same state. Then he gave my sister personal instructions on what to do with the money as far as splitting it between the 3 of us. Myself as my brother were completely relieved because we know our sister is completely trustworthy and this meant we would not need to be part of all the details of the funeral from our of state with the funeral home. My sister called us about all the important decisions and it really made things much simpler. All me and my brotherhood to sign is something saying we will not contest the will which of course we had no issue doing. When we went through his property instead of arguing to have this or that we were saying to the other siblings are you sure you two don’t need XYZ before taking it. My brother and I help as much as we could with the service being from another state. For example I handled setting up photos to display at the service. Just doing that so quickly was quite the accomplishment. My sister had so much work and stress involved with it. My brother and I saw she was definitely the right person for the job even if she had not been the only one in the same state. Neither of us could have imagined doing all that so fast. On top of that my father died in her arms with her little children there. The oldest of her 4 children is 12 and the youngest 3 years old. That is how it should be. It is so very sad that these grandparents at the end had to deal with all this stress and not have the peace of mind my father had.

[@timtompkins8774]

Mark I completely agree with you about the money aspect. My dad died recently and my bros and stepmom seem to be all about the money and items but I didn't care about it. I just want him back

[@DePhoegonIsle]

Story 1: Gotta say.. if 'You're after the inheritance', spending the last decade about being there for them, doing their house care, being there to take them to every appointment, & being there to help with absolutely anything. .... man ... isn't that the way to do it.... Let's rob that bank by working all the hours for a decade plus & putting the effort in to be entrusted with emergency powers from those who have the authority. Like Sure, you can argue 'they were only there to get the money'... but .... Isn't that how we all get shit from other people? OP literally has to be the dumbest, most selfish, self-centered Nitwit there is. OP literally blamed others for being there and helping when they didn't have to. OP literally portrayed... BEING THERE FOR THEM AS AN EVIL MONEY GRUBBING PLOY. That Sister of OP is what I called OP, but also Evil.

[@madisonl3401]

My favourite Reddit KZbinr! Yay 🤗🤗☺️

[@katiesmith2031]

Mark thanks for the video hope you and poppy are having a wonderful day

[@broken_queer_but_fighting8589]

You too m8🤗🤗💜💜🤗🤗💜💜

[@katiesmith2031]

@@broken_queer_but_fighting8589 thank you broken I will. Hope you are having a wonderful day

[@broken_queer_but_fighting8589]

@@katiesmith2031 thanks and you too m8🤗🤗💜💜🤗🤗💜💜 much love

[@HackiePuffs]

Obviously I’m gonna be mad at the sister for her deception and lies but can I also be mad at OP?! Why did they say that the brother simply helping them out was a bad thing?! It doesn’t sound like he was trying to take advantage of anything and the sister and OP were trying to vilify him in court. OP and the sister should be ashamed of themselves the only difference is OP is actually fixing their mistakes which is admirable but if I was the brother I don’t think I would fully forgive them.

[@tamsinmoore2111]

This is the reverse of what I and my parents went through. My sister had sole POA over my parents and abused that. M&D had bought their retirement house in '84 and planned living the rest of their lives there. Dad had some dementia and mobility issues for quite a few years, but in '12 Mum went down FAST! I was living with them at the time and it was beyond heartbreaking because initially she KNEW! My sister moved them to the country town she lives in, they never expressed any interest about living there and once in (gotta admit, lovely place) residential care I'd visit when I could, take up a Chinese meal. Every time I asked what they might like the next time they both believed they'd be back home and we'd order from the brilliant Chinese restaurant near their own home. I'd always had to tell them. I felt like scum doing so... beyond awful, exponentially so. Lesson to learn, and I know Aussie lawyers know this: no SINGLE POA! It's almost fervently pushed... I was once but not knowingly dropped. (Sister gave them grandkids, I had cats. (I had first choice!) She deftly manipulated them and I was out.) My parents could deal with intellectual issues but were clouded when it came to emotional ones. OP perhaps with sister should have been involved/named or trouble can rear it's head. It's so sad... blessings to OP regarding her studying, I bet she'll be brilliant!

[@OZARKMOON1960]

I knew the legal fees (at hundreds per hour) for all the sister's nonsense was going to eat a good chunk out of any remaining funds in the trust. Agree, she should have been charged with that bullshit. So glad OP saw her for the snake she is early on.

[@angelicakaufman7183]

Trust lawyer really should have put in a cease and desist because that's what was best for the trust

[@Silence-1170]

Wishing you a great Thursday everyone I got it right this time Mark! I won't mess the day up this time :)

[@DystopianOverture]

Yikes OP, framing helping grandparents out as money grubby. The brother seemed to be the only one who had the grandparents best interests at heart from the start, while the sisters were framing it as bad news. I'm glad OP ended up doing better in the end, still sheesh....

[@tabeechey]

Who needs law school when your crappy relatives give you a crash course?

[@sherrygibbs7547]

Just about every case (friends and family) I have heard of, there is one or more siblings/benefactors that have been a total PITA. People think that because they didn't get "their" money &/or property, the minute the person died, that they are being royally screwed over. People do not realize, FIRST AND FOREMOST, that nothing is theirs, until all legal matters of the deceased are finalized! Everything still belongs to the deceased! There are still bills, fees, taxes, etc of the deceased, that need to be paid off. And, so much more legal stuff, that has to occur. "Money is everything!" Sigh.....People really could use a good lesson in being patient! And, being decent human-beings.

[@onyxdragon1179]

Major red flag when OP confessed she found it ridiculous that her brother was coming over to their grandparent's to help and bring food.

[@melissaisloud7404]

The Brother is the true hero of this family.

[@haraldjensen3935]

So sad when greed replaces comon sense

[@lancerevell5979]

This situation with the brother could have been me. When my Father passed away, I became Mom's primary carer for her final years. I took her shopping, and to medical appointments. We had someof the same specialists, and I changed her pharmacy to mine, saving her a lot on several meds. I noticed her primary doctor and two specialists had her on three different BP meds! I had him drop the other two. I moved in with Mom her final year, until she passed. My sister did very little for Mom. Luckily I retired a year after Dad passed. We had to deal with a probate attorney as Mom had no will. We split everything 50/50, except I got Dad's old van and Mom's car. Mom had already sold Dad's bigger car to one of my old coworkers. Sister took everything in Mom's home she could to sell or donate til I put an end to it. I decided to not sell the home property, continuing to live here. I bought out sister's shareof the property. I still own my smaller property, keeping it as an investment. Sister passed away at 63 last year, due to the covid pseudo-vaccine. So in the end, I win.... 😉

[@Kittinlil]

It's truly sad when such pettiness and greed, make an already sad situation so much worse and by adding so much more strain and torment. I'm so glad OP realized how wrong and awful the sister was being and backed out of supporting her. I am willing to bet it was the loans she did not want to pay back that drive most of her intention to get control. That and who knows what else. The longer it went on the less sense the sister was making. All she was doing was costing them all more. It's sad the brother could not use the a fore mentioned no contest clause to enforce the loans she owed to be withheld and to take ALL the cost out of the sisters share. After all she is the one that created the massive costs with all her pettiness, it should have come out of her pocket not OP and her brothers. I have a feeling, when it comes to OP and the brother, that sister is going to end up very sad and alone, because If I was either of them I would end up not wanting anything to do with her.

[@terramarini6880]

They were withheld, He had documents backed up concerning her loans and she couldn't wiggle out. I am guessing she finally relented cause other loans were coming due (with people who were not related) and she needed the cash. Otherwise I am sure she would have carried on until she bankrupted the entire trust.

[@badkitty4922]

Man that Bish of a "sister" just makes me so angry! She really reminds me of something one of my older siblings pulled when my father died less than a year after my mother. She couldn't control or interfere with anything regarding mom's "estate" because it was ALL in my step dad's hands but, when my father died, she dialed it up to 11 IMMEDIATELY after. I really wish that Bish had ALL of the legal fees caused by HER taken out of HER inheritance. Probably would've left her OWING the estate but, it would've served her awful a** right!😠😠😠 Much Love to you, Mark, and the awesome Waffle Gang!💖💖😘😘👍👍🙏🙏💜💜 Special belly rubs, cuddles and kisses for little Miss Poppy!😘💖🐾🐾🐕👍🙏💜

[@wraith176]

Oh god, this one hurts. My grandparents health is in decline and I know bullshit like this is coming my parents way soon.

[@littleylvis]

This story kinda hits too close to home. I'm 20-25 years younger than my half siblings and when dad died and we were going to fix the inheritance all hell broke loose with my oldest sister. She forced us to sell things the other siblings wanted and got enraged when she didn't get as much money she just imagined she would get without thinking about fees or taxes and was going to drag us all to court twice. My dad even had a will that wasn't legit where he said she should get as little as possible since she would drink and gamble all his money away. 1,5 years of hell later I'm finally free of her and all of my dad's dysfunctional side of the family and some money that will help me a lot in the future.

[@deppnut1]

That sister is a right greedy B. Glad OP realized something wasn't right and turned to Reddit for advice. Also glad the brother didn't hold it against him. Grandpa likely left the brother in charge because he knew she couldn't be trusted and OP was too young.

[@Love2Banime]

Omg, the sister was super greedy. Where did she get the money to hire these lawyers? 🤷🏻‍♀️ Truly no win on both sides.

[@trillionbones89]

amazing how much mischief suceeds just because siblings don't talk to each other sooo, she get's away without aying her debts right? great.

[@chippydippy1530]

Shit like this is why my cousins gonna be in charge of my parents assets when they die instead of me like originally intended, then split it up evenly amongst the siblings. This is the type of shit they’re afraid of.

[@trainerlesseevee478]

I'm working on the back room at work today so the chances of getting caught listening to Mark is lower than usual lol THEY CAN'T STOP MEEEEEE 🧇🧇🧇🧇🧇🧇

[@kierstenfish9324]

my grandmother had ALS and schizophrenia and my mother's uncle visited her and basically got her to change her will in hospice. didn't allow us to even see the house or get anything from it. we went anyways because no way in hell my mom was going to let someone manipulate her mother even with all she'd been through with childhood, my mom would never. and then again when my grandfather who was divorced from my grandmother above, his new wife was just waiting for his cancer to kill him and took everything valuable from the house and the life insurance. u remember having to go through the entire house with my family. or my mother's brothers wife who took everything in the divorce and attempted to turn her own kid and their kid together against him. sucks.

[@Alteusgirl]

As someone who is bracing herself for the shitshow my uncle and his wife will put the day my gran passes i feel for OP. My grandma doesnt nearly has that much assests but he already stole so much after my grandad passed that my grandma marked it has debt from his side, she payed him whatever was left from the share he was owed after my grandad passed and now his debt will cover his share of her inheritance and he doesnt even know he's not getting anything. My grandma plans on leaving the house to the grandchildren since we all get along and our parents say they are ready to defend us and keep him from trespassing to steal whatever he can because he will try and he will fight whatever will she will have drawn.

[@fhuber7507]

My older brother worked to isolate our mother and was well on the way into gaslighting her, when she asked me to move to be near her. I moved and my brother was very mad that I did. (his own words) "You're in my way." Mom didn't change her will the way he wanted...

[@hi_stranger9156]

Money is scary thing.

[@295Phoenix]

This story is why the loser needs to be responsible for court costs. $600,000 down the drain!

[@oldgreggsmadmemes4431]

I would have sue the sister

[@autumn557]

I guess I’m lucky then that’s there’s literally ZERO inheritance in my family. Ain’t no one got no money over here.

[@juliearmfield2634]

You know the things that the brother was doing for the grandparents was how people would treat their elders all the time.

[@Iam7-1963]

Grandparents story...sit down, shut up and stop trying to grab excess money!

[@AngharadMac]

We love it when go off waffling on

[@blvdurocher3255]

When my husband's father died. His dad's side of the family took the land and house and money he was supposed to get. We don't know if we can do anything about it cause it's Beena while. And recently one of his cousins asked what he did with his money and such but didn't kno my husband's father's family took everything.

[@taywiththelongnails]

Greed sucks. Weddings and funerals seem to bring out the worst in people.

[@jennywhite2462]

At least they can go no contact with her with no more lawyer hassles. OPs brother must be a stellar person to forgive OP and still offer the sister a property that she said she wanted. At least OP has their brother and the sisters actions and manipulation didn't cause lasting damage to their relationship with each other.