New car lemon: This one free hack could protect you | Auto Expert John Cadogan

[@samatza]

Sage advice Cadogan. I recall a friends $85K Jeep that broke a radiator mount first day on a track I could have driven in a Camry. Sorry, you took it off road, not covered by warranty. I showed the dealer the advertising playing on the big screens at the dealership. I asked him to show me one clip where the Jeep was on an actual road, he couldn’t find one. It was repaired under warranty.

[@rais1953]

Growing up on a farm we used to drive an Austin Cambridge sedan (!) and a Holden ute on rough tracks, through water after rain, and across paddocks. Never a problem. The idea of a modern "lifestyle" 4wd ute rusting out because you parked it near the coast is ludicrous.

[@kadmow]

lol; "I" or "he"..."showed the dealer the advertising"...- top mate, going to bat against the dealers for a buddy.

[@kadmow]

@@rais1953 : those modern cars are thin skinned, literally - surface to deep rust is merely conceptual.

[@Cheepchipsable]

@@kadmow You should see the vehicles from the rust belt in the US, where they salt the roads. South Main Auto has videos where rust is just raining down on him while trying to break some suspension part loose. Scariest part is how many of those states have no inspection requirement.

[@kadmow]

@@Cheepchipsable : Yep been there... Cars don't live long lives around those parts.

[@damienhick1647]

I took Dodge to NSW small claims (although we settled out of court) for a Dodge Journey. Auto gearbox shit itself (clutch plate disintegrated) at year 6. The warranty though was three years. After research with ACCC and NSW Fair trading my argument was that for the price a gearbox should last longer than 6 years. At the time settling out of small court claims was easier but in hindsight, if again, I would take it all the way just to make sure it’s recorded and a legal decision is found.

[@james0spikey]

I like this way of thinking, but it's worth bearing in mind that local courts don't set precedent, so it would have little bearing on future cases. Still nice to see, but personally I wouldn't risk additional costs if an acceptable settlement was on offer.

[@Cheepchipsable]

Probably along with an NDA. I would like to see more people name and shame in order to get companies to lift their game, but AFAIK you are pretty much required to take a reasonable settlement if offered.

[@RupertReynolds1962]

I'd never have thought of that. And yet I often save evidence of promises about paid-for software, services, and free offers. A car costs so much more. Definitely worth the time!

[@sheerluckholmes5468]

Based on the shitbox defence team's logic then that would mean that *every* vehicle if parked outside the surf club would turn into an instant rust bucket not just theirs.

[@cabansail111]

Extended logic is that any of their vehicles transported here by sea would also be liable to the same fate. Especially when they’re then parked on a car lot next to the beach. QED. All of their stock is unfit for sale.

[@Nebs1]

Ah that reminds me of this crazy work colleague I had. He bought a Great Wall and in less than 3 years the paint had gone to crap. He blamed the factory next to our workplace for ruining the paint on his amazing Great Wall. I guess he didn't notice that many other employees owned cars for longer than him and the paint work was still looking fine after being exposed to this factory for up to 8 years in some cases. Including the company cars which returned to the depot every single day.

[@davidapelt4209]

I live on a water front property Salt water Lake. Well we have Mitsubishi Outlander 2012 and a Falcon 2009 sedan both models dont have not one bit of rust.

[@cabansail111]

@@davidapelt4209 watch your double negatives “don’t have not one bit of rust”

[@davidapelt4209]

@@cabansail111 what does that have to do with rust in cars ?

[@Trevorfoggia]

Hello John, I used to work for LDV in the U.K. back in 1994, I was a salesman of their shit box vans. Against Transits, Mercedes and Iveco I had no chance - I couldn’t even give the bloody things away. They were so out dated. I lasted only 8 months in the job before I was sacked. Best thing that could have happened as it turned out. I totally agree with your wisdom on not only LDV warranty and the way dealerships rip you off. It’s frightening. Any way, stay safe and well. Keep up the fantastic work you do. Greetings from Cumbria in the U.K.

[@mael-strom9707]

LDV China called... We use logic much and find Aussie seawater contaminated much with effluent outflow from Dingo Piss Creek. Researcher Sum Ting Wong from the technical department say no metal on Earth will survive dingo ejecta mixed with seawater. 😁🤣

[@pmb0001]

John, sage advice for all vehicle driving punters. Funnily enough, I have always kept a brochure and advertising material for the vehicles I have purchased in the past, even before we had the reach of the internet and digitalisation of media. Which all boils down to that old gem of a proverb “…forewarned is for armed…”. Abraham Tucker ,1768

[@danielolsen2853]

Imagine a world with honest car dealerships

[@madmick3794]

I got I would be a perfect car dealer, I love and know a bit about cars and I am utterly rubbish at lying. I usually break out in laughter before half way through.

[@GuitarsRockForever]

A world also has honest politicians? Which universe is that? I want to move there.

[@dtengineering1]

Imagine a world with honest customers.

[@miatand1156]

@@dtengineering1 He did tell them he was a life guard, and it's totally reasonable to use your new car for the purpose of traveling to work without a serious failure.

[@trakovich]

World peace would be easier to imagine lol

[@derekhobbs1102]

Back when we still had actual motor shows around the country, I would grab as many brochures as possible. Some of them might even be worth something now.

[@Scuppun]

Fitness for purpose comes to mind. The ad is beyond 'mere puffery' (see Carbolic Smokeball Company case). Misleading advertising 101. The product clearly could not do what it claimed to do without fault. Nice T-shirt, John. You do enter the matrix when negotiating with car dealers.

[@georgemaragos2378]

Carblic Smoke Ball - that takes me back to Law 1 and offer and acceptance That is a word i have not heard in 40 years

[@Scuppun]

@@georgemaragos2378 Still rings true 128 years later.. amazing

[@josefkrakel9136]

the way back machine might be useful here

[@gregrobinson2394]

I immediately think of the latest Nissan X-Trail advertisment which shows proudly how the car can be taken off road. What the add doesn't say is that (to my knowledge) the car doesn't have a full size spare tyre. Imagine having a puncture on a rugged fire trail and then finding that your car has a space saver tyre in the boot. What follows is probable damage to the car as you try and extract yourself from this situation.

[@sheerluckholmes5468]

The Haval dealer here in town sends his cars to a local window tinting service to have the factory window tinting applied and on one of the vehicles the paint inside the door was so thin as to be translucent and you were able to see the metal underneath it. It's just a Great Wall by a different name.

[@craigquann]

John, you should do a video on the fat cave itself, all the toys, size of the shop etc. You got an awesome setup.

[@AutoExpertJC]

I'm actually building the other half of it out as a metal shop right now...

[@unclebucket09]

Seriously John, you need another hat, beside MALS. You desperately need DADS ! For those that are Dumb As Dog Shit 👍😂

[@Confucius_Says...]

@@unclebucket09 🤣🤣🤣

[@TheWombat2012]

Car dealerships mostly never have physical brochures anymore. You have to print them out online.

[@andrewd7586]

LDV?… Liquid Disintegrating Vehicle!🤣👍🏼

[@jacklucas7265]

There was a recent court case in Michigan where an automobile manufacturer disclaimed responsibility for a manufacturing defect in one of its vehicles because it, the manufacturer, was not in fact a "manufacturer" but rather was an "assembler" of car parts. Needless to say the jury was impressed by the subtlety of the argument.

[@Saxamaphonegirl]

Thanks for the excellent advice. I signed the contract for a new car this morning, so I'm off to download all the assets and save them to my cloud accounts right now.

[@wilson2455]

had to buy a new iPhone (approx. $1K). Went to a large store "hello Mr Harvey" as they were having a sale. Whilst buying the phone, salesman says, "do you want to purchase our extended warranty plan?". "What's the warranty from Apple?" I replied. Salesman, "3 years..". "Umm.. no thanks..". If I'm paying over $1K for a phone, barring misuse, I expect it to last at least 3 years.

[@aiaramchek2077]

Well done, Wilson. Extended warranties for anything offer no additional protection to ACCC provided regulations. They are essentially legalised extortions.

[@aarrow5206]

Thanks for the advise John I'll be doing some brochure saving myself as my T60 is going the rusty dance. At this point I'm not doing too much complaining as the closest dealer to me is doing a great job of hitting up LDV for the repairs, which is amazing really given they didn't actually sell me the car

[@miatand1156]

How many cars park near the coast seven days a week require $45 plus grand worth of repairs in a few years let alone brand new SUVs?

[@pjd42]

This is your best video, John. Well done!

[@coweatsman]

The 3 Bs of digital data retention are of course, backup, backup and backup.

[@markh.6687]

Save any sales brochures also. They are usually full of pretty color photos depicting claimed uses.

[@RealButcher]

Good talk John! Sad it has to be this way, but evidence gathering is a very very good idea. Never thought of doing this.

[@MattBlack6]

Von Bibra Ferry Rd dealership is positioned with a decent amount of elevation too. Just right to catch the sea breeze from the Pacific, slightly less than 2km away.

[@shanekennethjamesaustin3949]

I was a helicopter mechanic in the navy, any area within 30 miles of the coast was considered to be a “Salt Laden Environment “ and as such we had to do a compressor wash and oil inhibit after the last flight of the day. This of course meant a wash out of the inhibited oil before 1st flight. This was on Seaking helicopters with Rolls Royce Gnome gas turbine engines. It was a pain in the arse but meant we got good service out of the powerplants ⚓️⚓️⚓️⚓️

[@MattBlack6]

@@shanekennethjamesaustin3949 I live just south of the Gold Coast, where the LDV lived. It's pretty common local knowledge that you have to go over the Border Ranges to be completely free of the salt effects. As the crow (or Sea King) flies, about 44km. Guess the old locals were onto something.

[@akramsul]

Very good advice. Took me 30s to do. Thanks.

[@standupmoto]

Excellent advice for sure but in reality how many people will actually follow your advice.

[@matthewhyde3045]

I just got the email finance is approved. Good timing. Ive saved the brochure to the cloud.

[@Mambey]

I can see Bombo. Bass point, Albion park . Minnamurra. All coastal.

[@axelknutt5065]

And there I was thinking you were going to suggest we all buy the “rust protection” when purchasing our new car from the dealer!

[@kevinbarry71]

I disagree with you; car companies are not pushing ethics to one side. Ethics are not there to be pushed

[@peterrech2307]

Car companies have no ethics......does not matter who they are or where they come from., once they have your money they don't care about their customers. These car companies sound like Victorian Premier Dan Andrews and all other politicians who blame everyone else for teir mistakes.

[@RealButcher]

@Kevin..... woooosh...

[@markh.6687]

True; one cannot push aside what is not there originally.

[@faloo0]

Malignant narcissists everywhere.

[@raymondread9484]

Don't the Ming Moles have major culpability also John? Poor Mister Rigby forked out his hard-earned on Body Protection only to be told he had to visit the Mingies every year. Suggested next show John - (and you have said it before) Don't waste your time and money with Dealer add-ons! Couldn't LDV have told the court that the rust was initiated from the dealer's Body Protection Treatment?

[@DDB168]

Excellent advice, something I would never have considered until watching this.

[@K8TO88]

Great advise John, thanks... love the G-Shock Ranger, a bit of a G-Shock fan, you seem to have a few....

[@govshill4557]

Thanks. Just found and downloaded the brochure for my 2018 BT-50. Just noticed that the opening claim is "Mazda BT-50 is built tough to take on any task." Geez! The possibilities. :-) Any task you say?

[@dghoffful]

Hi John, Great advice I used over 10 years ago... It was actually a laptop computer, Lenovo to be precise, that I purchased. My friend had spilt red wine on his keyboard rendering the machine useless. When I was purchasing mine, with that scenario in the back of my mind, I couldn't believe when I saw the Lenovo depicting a cup of coffee being spilt on it and draining away underneath and the laptop uneffected. Purchase made and a few weeks later it ceased to work? I later found out after having it checked where I purchased it from it had coffee spilt on it! It was in fact one of my kids that accidently spilt it and forgot to tell me, yeah! In any case at first it was a case of negligence on my part and bad luck. After getting home, it dawned on me about the advertisement and the brochure I still had that the store printed for me and I had with my receipt. Some banter to Lenovo in Singapore and explaining that I did not use it as a colander to strain my noodles, had them ship me a new unit no questions asked when I forwarded a copy of the receipt and brochure. Be it car, laptop or powered toilet seat if you must, keep those items for prosperity as you said 🙄🤠. Good advice Thanks John

[@juliebec3406]

Great info John. Waiting on my new Kia Sportage to come. The beast arrives in November, cant wait!

[@Stevegrande1]

Great idea John. Will definitely do that with my next new purchase

[@JustinSCampbell]

Great advice. I doubt you can trust most lawyers to dig this stuff up.

[@sixstringedthing]

Laughed my arse off at the brochure shot with the marketroid BS... "Rugged and ready", like it's some kind of military vehicle. Step One, ignore all of that crap when making a purchasing decision. Step Two, have a chuckle at it, shake your head, then save it along with any dealership correspondence and digital paperwork. Great advice John.

[@jeffreythompson9549]

The brochure for my ute said "titanium grille". Must be a structural element somehow, I thought. It was plastic, of course. They apparently invented a new colour name.

[@robertcoleman4861]

Hi john love all your vids,I was once a toyota person but i've seen the light and bought a hyundai i30 premium in 2019 the best car i have ever owned & driven cheer's bob.

[@bmurphy2393]

Just an observation, it looks like John has 3D mode on with his hands when he is making a point to the camera?!?

[@kadmow]

Wide lenses tend to do that - easy to make caricatures.

[@yankos_]

John, I don't if this helps... "AS/NZS 2312, Guide to the protection of structural steel against atmospheric corrosion by the use of protective coatings", could be extrapolated to be used in such a legal case. If anything an interesting read. This AS helped me out with an argument with a builder a few years ago.... (Kick'em in the shins!!!)

[@kadmow]

Galv and intact Epoxy paint within ? 3km of the coast... (how all cars need to be built, and maintained (maintained is the hardest and is relative)

[@beh1972]

Jeez, he also paid an additional $1400 for rust protection!

[@krissteel4074]

For that much I'd hope it was made of genuine dolphin oil

[@dougstubbs9637]

One;..you get what you pay for. Two;.. make your first expense your best expense. Three;.. a shiny turd is still a turd. Four;..salespeople get paid after they stitch you up. Five;.. marketing types are creative creatures, and don’t have both paddles in the real world water. Six;..tofu deng, the Chinese art of Pomenkin village’s translation into a four door ute.

[@aarrow5206]

I hear that you get what you paid for argument a lot, problem is the people that brought expensive jeeps and range rovers paid up plenty of coins to get problems too, the price tag isn't an excuse for poor quality

[@marksweet8740]

@@aarrow5206 Yep people keep using that old saying, its a bog standard answer people give when they can not think of anything helpful to say and its just not true anymore

[@chrisjohnston9454]

Regardless of the car manufacturer you have to deal with, they will always look for an easy way out of your warranty claim. Car manufacturers need to learn to look after their victims as per the heavy vehicle manufacturer will. A friend of mine is a b-double driver who does Brisbane Sydney for a largish transport company driving a Scandinavian truck which is not yet 12 months old and has 95,000 ks on the clock. Motor in said vehicle went poopies down there and stopped turning and burning. Not only is the dealership replacing the engine under warranty but they are also completely covering all costs, including the on call mechanic, the heavy recovery vehicle, and the motel room for the night. Maybe the difference between car manufacturers and heavy vehicle manufacturers is that with the aforementioned vehicle it's purchase price is just shy of 400 big ones 🤔

[@chrisjohnston9454]

Oh yeah and a side note, the dealership is also covering the entire costs for the rental truck while the motor is being replaced.

[@gregatkinson5929]

Love your great opinion, sure makes 110% sense to me. You are sharpening up my knowledge nicely.

[@AutoExpertJC]

Thank you very much, Greg.

[@derekgore1268]

Excellent suggestions John!

[@sgtkabukiman9411]

If they try the brush off, just hand them a copy of the consumer guarantee, then a copy of the court case outcome.

[@sgtkabukiman9411]

Plus the damage LDV have done to themselves with this. There's now 307,000 here who won't buy an LDV and if we all tell one other person, that's over 600,000 potential buyers burned.

[@seegee7728]

Just like Teggy and his Shipbox Jeep, dealer tried to blame off road driving for multiple failure issues.He told them the tv add shows the car going up a mountain. Check out his song I made a mistake i bought a lemon jeep

[@SpeedforceM3competition]

An unrelated observation.. I was looking at an A35 amg on the Mercedes website and it was priced at around $83k approx including all on road costs and now suddenly looks like price have gone up to $90k plus for Victoria.. can dealerships just suddenly bump up car prices in a month like that?

[@Amargosa2006]

John your subscription to “whimsical string music monthly” has finally paid off

[@andrewver]

That's hilarious... even their catalogue shop is on top of a boat ramp... (like at least 2 other car brands who've shot ads at that location...)

[@sheerluckholmes5468]

The Sylvania end of Tom Uglys bridge.

[@stephenwarhurst6615]

LDV = Lemon Designed Vehicles

[@steveallen1340]

Could it be the case that the dealer needed the legal determination in order to force the manufacturer to reimburse them for the costs? I.e. The dealer knew they had no chance of winning the case but the manufacturer was refusing to take any responsibility.

[@dgs0011]

Brilliant advice!

[@sandradesilva3620]

Thanks for the information! You're videos are entertaining! All the best! 👍😊🌴

[@gordonclark7632]

The mere fact that these Chinese made vehicles are so cheap in comparison to other manufacturers must cause one to wonder why?

[@directgrover]

Surely you need to do a video on Gladys and Bruz resigning?! LMAO

[@theairstig9164]

Still too soon and too hot.

[@tomleeroy5847]

Sadly Isuzu Midland/Australia believe this doesnt apply to them, for a brand new D-MAX despite living nowhere near the ocean and only hitting the dunes a handful of times. Perth's general conditions and no heavy 4x4, water-crossings etc constitute "extreme environmental conditions" sadly even consumer affairs isnt able to budge them on this

[@rinunculartoo3006]

Good advice .

[@winnie-the-poohahaha4428]

This may change our car adverts in Australia

[@GuitarsRockForever]

If that's true, shitbox like Jeep would be gone in no time. None of Jeep advertising is true.

[@hiroki947]

Simple freaking good advice, you are fkkkking smart. Appreciate your content. But can't sadly go through your service as I'm NZ 😭

[@sandybutt9898]

Lemon...Is this about Bruz?

[@Brendan.Wheatley]

Nice PSA John!

[@desirabledrives44]

Wise man once said. Something free or cheap is worth exactly what you pay for it.

[@MussaKZN]

They should have named it the Mermaid! Yep I still got my brochure for my 1989 Toyota Hilux . Still *OK*

[@AndrewKarpyszyn]

I was expecting to hear "You're a bogan" but I guess a goose will do.

[@mael-strom9707]

Could have really hurt my feelings with, "You're a galah." 🤣😋

[@AndrewKarpyszyn]

Remember, lots of people are deathly afraid of clowns, too.

[@vincentthao3497]

In your opinion is this fine model you make mention of more of a rust bucket than a HQ Holden ?

[@jfr45er]

I just put a deposit down on a Hyundai Staria. It better be able to travel through outer space . The ads promised me this!!

[@rjinhobart7748]

That LDV story is almost the plot of the Tom Clancy novel Debt of Honour. A Japanese car has a fuel tank made of "poor quality materials", ruptures in a crash, kills the occupants, starts a trade war, then a real war. So watch out!

[@scottbennett9203]

Japanese? LDV is Chinese...

[@fiery1962]

Originally British

[@ericbailey9549]

Photographers love water and engineers hate it.

[@tigertiger1699]

Well put John👍

[@pw510577w]

I wonder where the actual vehicle used in the ad is now, and in what condition?

[@MrButtonpresser]

Future car brochures: Photo of vehicle in a clean room with controlled environment…..

[@FernandoDIY]

2 months ago, I bought a car that had a few recalls in past, and one of them is the paintwork, at the time I was not aware of the recalls anyway, I went on the Kia webpage put my vin in to check my vehicle and my vehicle has no recalls however the 2018 yellow stinger if you goggle it says was recalled, my car is or is about to hit 4 years old and the paint is delaminating, the first week I had car bonnet started delaminating 1 month later guard, Kia has authorized car to be fixed . so my problem at the moment is are they just going to patch up the damaged paint or are they going to respray the vehicle as in removing all the old paint? has anyone had issues like this any advice will be greatly appreciated

[@Cheepchipsable]

Depends on the dealer. They could either do it piece meal, so as each panel begins to show a defect they fix it. If it's delaminating, that sounds like it's coming off the body anyway, so it would need to be removed before it could be painted. I expect it depend who is paying for the repair as to the quality and scope of the repair. If it failed after that because of a poor repair, then you might be in a fight with the panel shop. You'd best find a Kia/Hyundai forum where people have been through this experience could advise you.

[@RB-yq7qv]

This is very good advice.

[@jamesbarisitz4794]

The companies marketing and advertising should be cataloged as a matter of record by law. In a fictional story.

[@grimreaper6112]

You dont know what happend on the ship on the way over here strong winds big seas could been coverd in salt spray when it got here.

[@andrewallen9993]

It travelled perhaps in a container? Which by the way live in a salt water environment and last more than five years :)

[@rogersmith5371]

Here's what I'd like to know; was this decision made by the dealer who did not want to honour the warranty or by LDV Australia or the parent LDV in China? If it were the dealer they had poor if not incompetent legal advice because by any measure the defence offered would fail. If it were LDV Australia the same could be said. In the case of it being LDV China perhaps they don't have the same consumer protection in China so they could be forgiven for not not understanding how our consumer laws work. In the case of either Australian arm of the company it would have been a lot simpler to pay the guy an amount of money, get him to sign an NDA and go away. I'm not a lawyer but the dealer and the brand is now worth mud. If LDV China are trying to build a presence in Australia who ever made this decision has set that endeavour back a long way. Not only that by extension all Chinese brand cars are now tarred with the same brush. When Japanese cars first appeared on our markets they were poor quality and Made in Japan was a derogatory term. That image was only corrected by a determination to quality control and customer service. The same could and was said about Korean cars when they first appeared and the same could be said about Hyundai and Kia's determination to make better cars. If China wishes to succeed in a crowded, fully imported Australian market just being cheap and cheerful won't cut it.

[@RobertSmith-di5ll]

Spot on

[@benrechakiewicz3594]

I was thinking of getting an LDV T60 max luxe but maybe I might be better off getting a descent second hand triton. Something dodgy about an all Chinese made car.

[@fernandopazos8438]

In Spain, no matter if It is a product or a service, if It don't match your expectations, you're screwed, independently of how humble your expectations are, even if you don't hace any. Your consumer law looks sci-fi from here.

[@davegilbert9314]

T shirt - I will try and work out when I sober up. The horse shoe hat has got me transfixed.. The vid probably has some good quality info but I'm stuck on the hat

[@leetworks]

Seriously John, when do we get Dingo Piss Creek and Straya swag?!?

[@mtozzy11]

Funny ldv chose Kiama to film the t60 add, shit rusts there very quickly if it's poor quality even good quality stuff will rust if it's not protected

[@ericbailey9549]

I've never heard of LDV here in Merica. Does it stand for Love Dat Value?

[@alexwright6038]

They used to be a UK based shit box van manufacturer. Nice to see the Chinese are keeping the British Leyland quality standards up. Most British Leyland vehicles used to rust out very quickly as the were left out in the rain before they were painted.

[@grantadamson3478]

If you need brochures and the like to prove that your car is meant to be driven on roads then your Consumer Laws are knackered. It should be relatively simple to prove "not fit for purpose".

[@kenwolf6293]

I ain't an Aussie just a Brit but I do enjoy your chat.."not that Noah existed "..fantastic you got my vote because like myself you speak your mind..if someone don't like don't listen..ha ha

[@garysheppard4028]

So going from their advertising, 90% of all 4WD's would be covered driving thru the surfline with salt water spraying their innards. :-)

[@trakovich]

Sir, you think d90 ldv is similar shit box? I cant find any good reviews of it all is there boot lickers

[@scottbennett9203]

I don't know why anyone would even consider a Chinese D90 when the Korean (Ssangyong Rexton) just a tad dearer is a lot better (objectively speaking) option. 7 years warranty and a lot better build quality. Owners love them.

[@geoffgeoff143]

They fail to mention hte warranry is only valid untill you drive it out of the yard for the first time.

[@pete546]

the book of course .....greatest seller of all time....

[@Maccat]

HELP ME JOHN! I recently picked up my 1975 Ke30 Toyota Corolla from my uncle's house after it was sitting there in a paddock without paint on the panels with a tarp over it for near on 10 years. I want to take Toyota to court as after nearly 50 years, 10 of them with without paint, there is surface rust on the panels! Wish those tight-asses at the BIG T were more like LDV with their customer service! :-)

[@PlaAwa]

Thoughts on BYD T3?

[@eleonoraformatoneeszczepan8807]

Was wondering if you were still around. Sort of relieved you are. I know this sounds daft, I don't get it, the Eleanor Rigby reference, other than Beetles. Yeah, I don't understand or get everything ... somethings seem undecipherable ... it certainly feels frustrating. Hope you are well. Posted one of you videos on linkedin.

[@AutoExpertJC]

It's only been three days since I posted my last report, Eleonora... Eleanor Rigby reference was just a gag. Not everything has a deep and meaningful point. Sometimes frivolous stuff is funny because it just is.

[@eleonoraformatoneeszczepan8807]

@@AutoExpertJC that's still allowed these days?

[@GuitarsRockForever]

Great advice as always, JC.

[@brettwatsons8657]

Words of wisdom

[@jasper287]

If Asguard is flat, why can't Earth be flat too...