New Evidence in Menendez Brothers Case

[@CourtTV]

What do YOU think? ⚖👇 MORE HERE: www.courttv.com/title/menendez-brothers-attorney-talks-about-new-evidence-in-case/?

[@Jesusiscominglive777]

Test the ink 👌 is a must to get to the truth!!!

[@caroldeaton619]

Set them free if that is an original letter and why it didn't make it to trial.

[@caroldeaton619]

​@@Jesusiscominglive777how do you test ink I've never heard of that?

[@Jesusiscominglive777]

I'm not sure exactly how they do it but they have done it see the age of the ink 😉

[@lornag9608]

Set them free!

[@AmethystEyes]

I remember the prosecutor saying that “men/boys can’t be raped”. Could you imagine someone saying that now?

[@dianazhora7357]

It was a silly statement even then.

[@AprilMay-s8e]

probably he is or was an abuser himsef

[@jeniestra.]

Exactly. It was crazy.

[@budleypets]

Did he not understand human anatomy?😮

[@AmethystEyes]

@@budleypets it was a she

[@stringybeanss]

Let's be morbidly realistic. Them boys saved a lot of other young boys from being abused by their dad. He would have never stopped his pedo ways, even if they left.

[@BillieHurtman]

These men will never get back their lives & time locked away. NOONE wanted to believe the brothers because their dad was a wealthy, famous person. Rape &sex trafficking is an everyday thing today

[@myyarobinson288]

And now we see he did hurt another young man so who to say there are others smh i remember seeing some show were the cousins would come visit and the dad would take one of the brothers to a back room and they would hear screaming .so to me thta means the dad could not control himself even with visiting family around! I mean really think about that and how the. Hild had to go back with the other childern probably in pain and embarrassed ..the MOM knew! Period!!

[@maxsmart8954]

Nothing ever proven because the evidence was executed…

[@sooz5703]

@@maxsmart8954 Are you sure there's no evidence? who took photos of their kids naked neck down? who raped the menudo boy? who had child p%rn they played for their dinner guests?

[@sooz5703]

Probably still at it to this day.

[@user-cj8wq8cw1s]

I had a coworker many years ago, she told me that her step father sexually abused her from the time she was a little girl. And that her mother knew about it and did nothing to help her. I was sick to my stomach when she told me that. Those type of parents are the Real Monsters!

[@JozeBroz]

any mother that brings a stranger to her child can expect that. step father is nobody, no blood relations

[@wolke1955]

​@@JozeBrozNot only a stepfather! My father came to me at the age of 9.😢😢😢 He was a respected policeman, nobody would have believed me. My 9 years older sister had seen him in my bed, she did nothing to help me because she had her first boyfriend in her room. She told my stepmother, next morning I had to tell her, or she wanted to kill me (her words). She did nothing to help me, because she had no job and she loved our father. Nobody knows what a sick heart pain I went through. 😩😩😩

[@selmahare]

@@wolke1955Im so sorry that happened to you.

[@Michilar]

It is so common, especially if the mother is totally dependent on the rapist for financial support or in denial.

[@jasminflowerz1710]

​@wolke1955 💔

[@watchmeheal1176]

As a victim of SA abuse at the hands of my bio dad who shared me and my little sister w/ MANY friends for years- I stand by and support these two men♥️♥️♥️

[@Rita-yw2tn]

I’m sorry for all that you and your sister went through no child should ever have to endure that ! 🥲

[@treece01]

Wow I’m so sorry that happened to you, i pray that God removes all of those horrible memories from your mind. No child should ever go through this but unfortunately satan is very real and his biggest offense toward God is harming children who God loves so very much. My heart goes out to you

[@yessa1132]

I’m so sorry, I can’t imagine what you went through. I’ll keep you in my prayers.

[@tonifitz6831]

Sorry if i met your dad I would smash him in the face... I'm so sorry that the very ppl that should protect you and take a Bullet to save you wd do this x😊

[@luv2travel2000]

@ LittleGirlLost Sorry this happened to you. That is just so wrong. Praying for you that God would heal your broken heart.

[@MummyBrown]

“People can’t imagine a father doing this with his son.” Indeed. I’d even add that people also can’t imagine what it’s like to be raised in a home that enabled such a thing. This wasn’t just a sexual abuse case, it was a mental abuse case carried by a father that literally everyone that came into contact with was terrified of. The mother enabled it. From experience, not only does the SA mess with your mind, the fact that the Mom allowed it might be the hardest part to get over. It shifts your understanding of reality, love, and trust.

[@marygoff3332]

The mother brought one of the sons into her bed and sex abused him, too. Poor kids, growing up in these perverse households. 😔

[@maxmanx1294]

SPOT ON!

[@angelwings7930]

👍👍👍. I’ve ALWAYS thought they deserved a new trial.

[@donnar9864]

My son is adopted.. I got him at 11 yrs old.. his dad raped him on the regular and his birth mom knew it was happening.. fast forward, he is 30 yrs old now and a productive happy human being. I acknowledged what happened to him, we talked it through for years but I never let him feel sorry for himself, I wasn't going to watch him become one big pity party.. the dad got 25 yrs, but only after SA 3 other members of the same family and the state took the parental rights away from him...

[@michelleb7399]

@Vanessa Monroe yes, that testimony was so raw. When the one brother apologized to doing the same thing to his younger brother as had been done to him, you had to be quite hardened to not feel the raw emotion there. I think people believed the narrative that they were just evil spoiled brats. Even though many employees and other relatives came forward in the media to say what a tyrant Jose was, the media kept highlighting stories of the spending sprees and such. If it hadn’t been for the money, the boys may have stood a chance

[@fitlosophyqu33n]

When they separated the brothers and put them in different jails really broke my heart. I hope they get out soon.

[@ayashaniroshanisenaratne914]

@fitlosophyqu33n me too. I cried a lot seen they got separated. At least they both should stay in same jail n let them to see each other

[@mustafarassa898]

@@fitlosophyqu33n wtf

[@joes.4149]

@@ayashaniroshanisenaratne914 lmfao yall dont read huh. theyve been together since 2018

[@spanishguy818]

@@joes.4149when were they locked up? 2017? Come on man.

[@TracyL-66]

@@spanishguy818locked up back in 1997 or so, almost 30 yrs now!

[@darcyswanson7287]

I totally believe that they were relentlessly abused. That kind of anger does not come overnight.

[@tnt01]

100%

[@NORMLfan13]

Me too always believed them b/c it’s a pretty embarrassing thing to admit/claim. You can wait for money but not for the abuse to stop. I can’t wait to see them freed!

[@xmanc5687]

I always thought that myself. What makes a person so angry at their parents, if they were loving parents.

[@tnt01]

@@xmanc5687 common sense, for sure.

[@greg6122]

Follow the money,,,

[@carmendaniel3734]

I hope Lyle and Erik get out of prison. I don't think they had a fair trial. Those parents were monsters. They served enough time.

[@LadyCrimson25]

I didn’t heard about this case yet?!

[@LadyCrimson25]

What an awful case it sounds astonishing! For how long in prison?!

[@LadyCrimson25]

It seems like it is not easy to get any fairly Trial today how come. Is it not given more fear if not knowing if it’s the right behind bar or if a murder is out there? Evidence not enough or?!

[@jennifermcgoldrick6323]

@@LadyCrimson2530 years.

[@garysmith1863]

Agreed

[@rainaeasley7863]

The fact that the judge removed the evidence should loose his seat at very least!

[@robinshaul4069]

Absolutely

[@amandamccormick5009]

They saved so many kids because their father would never have stopped.

[@SFVGIRL]

Thank you. Because it's true. People whom haven't experienced being SA and raped repeatedly wouldn't understand the fear/hate/distortion.

[@teresarenee3829]

Exactly.

[@ideagirl]

True!

[@unoimright5153]

Ummmm! That menudo guy stayed silent for 30 year’s! He probably needed money , now ! He got paid for this , obviously! Those Mendez brothers partying and spending thousands of dollars in the days after they murdered their parents! Why !? Did the kill their mom !? For the inheritance, duh

[@chulababy2120]

IF ITS TRUE

[@fernandaolivares7926]

The fact all the evidence and witnesses that proved the abuse happened was not admitted on the second trial was a total breach of the brothers rights to a fair trial. Shame on that judge and prosecutor. Free them!

[@mk8446]

100%

[@CherokeeAmericangrl]

It was admitted at there first trial !!! That letter is a fraud !!!

[@schoomzer]

Agreed! It's time for the masses to understand the psychological and emotional trauma that is caused by such egregious and long-term sexual abuse of children, particularly by a family member.

[@southerndelight54]

The Judge took their defense away from them.

[@fernandaolivares7926]

@@schoomzer Yes, it literally fractures somone's soul. They killed them in self defense, being threatened with sexual assault is just as criminal as being threatened with death. People askobg if the father "threatened to kill them" as if that was the only action that warranted a life threatening measures need to wake up.

[@budleypets]

The real monster was the person who had that letter all these years and never showed anyone while the brothers rotted in jail.

[@KennyAce]

Thats bc they still killed their parents.. now that 30 years have been fulfilled they should be let free

[@珊小妮33]

Actually that's a bit unfair to say, because their cousin had the letter and unfortunately he passed away in 2003. So his stuff was sort was put away and that's they didn't have the letters before

[@Arandomperson_online]

So sad 😭

[@pinkaholic09]

@@珊小妮33 I watched Menendez+Menudo documentary. No mention that their cousin passed away 2003. Still, He held on to the letter then for 15 years? While the brothers remain in prison. It's flabbergasting that the cousin and Roy from Menudo, the other rape victim, did not come forward sooner. It's been 33 years ! The brothers need justice.

[@kelbydobbins8422]

The letter was found in his belongings much later.

[@laraisokay]

To those who are pointing out that the brothers were of legal age to move out of the home: any type of abuse includes a type of mind control where the abuser convinces the victim they would never survive without them. If these brothers were abused from a young age to their legal adulthood, it absolutely makes sense to me why they’d still be in the home with great reluctance to leave. It’s the same concept of saying, “why don’t they just leave?” regarding an abused spouse. I am all for a second trial, or release based on time served.

[@Simplegalinny]

💯 and similar to an abused spouse. Statistically, they stay because they’re afraid of retribution!

[@Lisa-hc3uq]

Anyone in their right mind knows that if you murder someone for whatever reason besides self defense, you're found guilty in a court of law, it's life in prison. You don't get off for time served or the circumstances of abuse. It's like putting guns and knives in the hands of victims and its ok if you brutally murder them? It's not ok. You contact authorities, your family members, adult friends, clergy, your Dr, your neighbor, anyone who would listen. The back story to the brothers behavior prior to the murders is telling. They should serve out their sentences for what they were found guilty in the court of law for, the same as anyone else who chose to weapon up and blow away an abuser. Regardless of "the times", it's immoral and illegal to take someone else's life if not defending your own.

[@LilaDaisy]

I believe Lyle was, in fact, out of the house but still relying on his parents' financial support.

[@-norsecode-]

@@Lisa-hc3uq You've clearly never been in an abusive household or been abused.

[@nancyfahey7518]

I say time served. Let them out. And I hope there's still some inheritance left.

[@Torahobservantcatmom]

I know a man in his 50s who has been single and alone all of his life, because of the sexual abuse he suffered from his own father. He is so mentally tortured that he can not move on.

[@Kenna198]

That is so sad 😭 what a despicable monster ugh

[@vj8406]

We all know a man like this. They are everywhere. Sexual assault of children was the norm and it was also the norm not to talk about it.

[@wb6266]

Completely awful. I've had partners who finally confessed to me about their trauma. It was so impossible to have a healthy relationship with them after years of trying because of their trauma. They were so emotionally fraught and volatile and I couldn't deal after a good long try. I do sincerely hope they are doing better and not alone :(. I HATE what their abuser did to their sweet soul.

[@maryannemelenka9250]

Yeah, set them free. In my view it wasn’t about inheritance it was self defence, extremely so

[@thesuzannedale]

Never say never .

[@jbsang54]

They were telling the truth! Their verdicts will be overturned. Good for them!!

[@tiffanysamuelson9262]

This is the saddest failure in justice for these victims. They told their story and no one believed them. Now someone somewhat famous comes forward and it’s deemed worthy? Disgusting.

[@leighlavigne4680]

If they did it during rape...it's self defense. If you are eating ice cream on your couch it's just murdering your parents

[@michelleg4346]

Thirty (30) years too late!

[@vevrvivnv]

A lot of people believed them at the time, and a lot of people still do. The first trial resulted in a mistrial because the jurors could not agree to convict or to acquit. During the second trial, the judge limited the evidence that the defense could admit, which allowed the state to minimize the allegations of abuse, and they were ultimately successfully convicted. Many people were shocked by this, as their testimonies of abuse were captivating and moving.

[@ideagirl]

Agree!

[@luzesquivel2660]

THEY WERE OLD ENOUGH, TO LEAVE HOME. REMEMBER HONOR YOUR FATHER/MOTHER. SHALL NOT.KILL." MILLIONS OF CHILDREN RUN FROM ABUSIVE PARENTS."

[@orangepeel3465]

I actually feel sorry for these terribly abused young men!! ITS CALLED RAGE- for horrible parents abusing them for years. RELEASE THESE MEN.

[@ideagirl]

Agree!

[@unoimright5153]

Why !? Did menudo stay silent for 30 year’s! WHEN TWO 18 and 21 Mendez Bros were facing the rest of their natural born life in prison !? For this reason it is NOT A typical SA case ! Lives were at stake !! Lmao ! His testimony is laughable!!

[@kwassagirl5639]

@@unoimright5153 - clearly you know nothing about the lifelong complex trauma of child sexual abuse (CSA) ...... on average it takes 30 years to disclose CSA, if ever.

[@unoimright5153]

@@kwassagirl5639 Well , clearly you know everything.. 30 years .. you don’t say !! Bahahaha!! Lifelong complex trauma, still laughing! Those Mendez brothers were facing life in prison at 18 and 21 , you’d think the Menudo guy would want to help their case by coming forward! No !??? 🧐 (18 and 21, the brother’s had moved out of the Mendez family home and supposed horrible environment, just to come back and murder their parents ???)

[@Bleu413]

@@kwassagirl5639 Some people are narcissistic until it happens to them

[@riverebec1]

I joined Jose Menendez's company, LIVE Home Video, several months after he was murdered. Everyone spoke about how impressive yet intimidating he was, my boss herself telling me how much she hated him and had immediately suspected the boys were involved in the murders as she believed they were abused children. I remember her saying that she was sorry how Jose Menedez died but was nevertheless very happy that he was gone.

[@SoneBlink]

I have never doubted the abuse. What they did was horrible, yes, but the abuse they suffered was horrendous, nobody protected them.. Their cousin also knew about it. I think they spend a lot of time in prison and they should be free now. They are not a danger to society.

[@karenwhinesmore9347]

100% agree

[@jillcampbell3510]

I agree. I hope they are freed.

[@remigal899]

They were never a danger to society.

[@fernandaolivares7926]

How horrible the cousin sat on this letter while the boys were sent to jail...unbelievable...family members usually notice things and they do nothing, it's awful.

[@SoneBlink]

@@fernandaolivares7926 One of the brothers, i think the little one, told his cousin when they were kids. The cousin admitted that, I'm not blaming the cousin as a child, but the court never allowed a lot of evidence of the abuse., i find that unfair. They wanted to close the case, it was too big at the time.

[@melissacole1821]

I watched a documentary about the horrific abuse they went through and there were actual witnesses in the house when one of the boys was screaming while being brutally raped by his dad. I don't know where all those witnesses were when the trial was going on. I pray they overturn their sentence, they've been literally tortured long enough.

[@claudiacastaneda6871]

Their cousin testified in their favor. But this case is deep and complex. It’s crazy to find out all the details of what happened and who was involved. Thank goodness Roy is finally ready to speak up.

[@javayna2353]

@@claudiacastaneda6871they were old enough to go to the police, get a rape kit done in themselves, and not commit gruesome murder.

[@Muirmaiden]

​@@javayna2353 Wow, you are very naive.

[@Investigate_Mermaids]

@@javayna2353 Guessing you were never sexually abused by a family member..

[@alygarden7879]

People in power can even control those near or around them such as these witnesses. No one wants to go against a powerful person!

[@BarbaraJohnson-vr2er]

Just set them free. They were tortured from the time they were babies. They are not a danger to society. Let them live real life with their wives now

[@Static-ash]

I remember this case when i was a kid. The media circus, the natrative they were pushing, making fun of these 2 "spoiled kids." I rewatched about this case a couple years ago and i was surprised to find myself believing the brothers

[@karenwhinesmore9347]

Same here. Those poor boys were abused. And spent enough time behind bars.

[@trinity2145]

I was saying the same thing. I was young when this all happened, and from the media, that told us about it. I never got this impression that it was this bad, as an adult. This is disgusting, and they should’ve never went to jail. This father did the unspeakable to his children, and their mom.. just sat back and did nothing. I know all too well how that feels. Although, I didn’t suffer this bad, it was still bad for me. And I just hope they can get out.

[@sbg1911]

Same.

[@laurathomsen977]

I agree. They were punished by the media and courts on top of their horrific abuse growing up. I remember the media making this seem it was about the money.

[@ColonizersBlow]

Yep, same. I think it’s time to let them go.

[@margaret4196]

I always believed them. I hope this ends with them being released. It’s time for justice for Lyle and Erik.

[@ashleydaniel3215]

I'm ashamed to say I believed the media back then but now...I can see that not only did they free themselves from the abuse but they are actually heroic for standing up in court to talk about the abuse at a time when Nobody would of such things in their families. Times are different now and people are speaking truth to power and believing victims more, society failed them by not believing them. There father was a powerful man and nobody would have second guessed him sadly. I hope they are freed because they deserve it😭

[@margaret4196]

@@ashleydaniel3215 your reaction wasn’t something to be ashamed of. Especially back then it was almost unheard of that boys suffered in this way. I think you being honest is a good thing.

[@ideagirl]

In my comment above I said the same thing. I believed them way back then too.

[@FleetwoodCaddy59]

I always believed them as well. I hope they are freed soon 💙

[@enzyme181]

Bs, I was abused for 18 years, I didn't murder anyone. My sister was abused for 15 years until I had my own place and moved her in to get her away, she hasn't murdered anyone. Murder is not the answer.

[@Shiny20111]

If this murder happened now, so way those boys would have gotten a life sentence. Gypsy Rose has now been released, she served like what, 7 years? And that was medical/physical abuse. It would be absolutely CRAZY if these men never get a re-trial or their sentence overturned.

[@SatieSatie]

Had to think about her too. It's utterly unfair how Lyle & Erik were treated by the court and the general public (remember the nauseating Saturday Night Live sketch?) in the 90's. Terrible things happen when the wrong people become judges.

[@ZosiaSamosiaOo]

Remember Gypsy Rose didn't kill but ordered the killing. The killer got life imprisonment.

[@harrymccallum1226]

I feel so sorry that these two young men had to go through this, and people who knew didn't speak up absolutely shocking

[@selmahare]

Absolutely shocking indeed, and vile. That whole entire family is vile for not having gone to the police and fought for these kids.

[@dianeyoung8068]

The physical and psychological abuse these men suffered is something that anyone who hasn't lived it can't judge.

[@ideagirl]

Agree!

[@godlygirls62]

Ya left out the sexual abuse

[@catrivera7463]

Exactly!!

[@enzyme181]

Bs, I was abused for 18 years and I didn't murder anyone or abuse anyone.

[@realscience948]

Seems to me…..they wrote the letter as like an alibi! They had it all planned!

[@susanhampton9308]

It just amazes me that abusers can physically and mentally abuse for years and years and when the victims break, then they are imprisoned forever.

[@ChrisHansonCanada]

People might wonder why the boys didn't just leave home and go on their own, but it's not that simple. I lived with my parents until I was 24 because they used controlling tactics to keep me there. Whenever I expressed interest in leaving, my father would say, "Your poor mother! She'll be heartbroken!" which immediately caused me to feel like a selfish son, and my mother would say, "Don't you love me anymore?" or similar comments. My mother was a stay at home mother and homemaker and her kids were ALL she had. My father knew that, and would always resort to tactics to keep my brother, sister and I at home as much as possible to keep my mother company. Finally, I had enough guts at 24 to make a life for myself.

[@ideagirl]

Good for you. You experienced abuse from your parents!

[@kathleentatar-sipple9672]

Glad you finally got out to live your life. God bless you 🙏 Stay strong. I'm sorry this happened to you and your siblings. Horrible thing to go through.

[@jameshurst6119]

Man, we came up in completely dif worlds.

[@elissam.corsmeier469]

Thats on you for not leaving.

[@annward7794]

You got out relatively early. They could’ve held you hostage the rest of yr life. Much love. 🩵

[@watsonspuzzle]

They should have been able to put their evidence before the jury in their second trial. I think that's unfair.

[@sjohnson65456]

It is completely unfair, and has happened/still happens countless times in a trial.

[@joes.4149]

lyle had the escape lettter inadmissible in court and tried to have the spending inadmissible for the second hearing lmfaooooo

[@heatherclough2663]

I remember this case and i remember thinking something is definitely very wrong here and the two brothers seemed genuinely abused. So sad this happened to them... their lives were pretty much stolen away from them twice. Their parents stole the first half of their lives and the justice system stole the second half.

[@pinkaholic09]

I agree. A year ago I'd read about the new evidence in this case. Before that, I just went with the official narrative that the brothers m urdered for money. I had not heard otherwise. I completely believe the boys were molested and abused. I think they should be released and receive the inheritance from their monster father and enabler mother, too. They should have only served a maximum of 12 years. They've had their entire life stolen from them. If I lived closer I would go visit them in prison. So sad.

[@lolacookie453]

The documentary needs to be watched by everyone. It’s sickening what was done to all these kids.

[@victorialopez2964]

Yes was awful. I cried.

[@fedfan3079]

@@lolalovesme2987 I don’t think it was one sided. I couldn’t make up my mind. It seems he did it the 2nd time but he had already been railroad by law enforcement the 1st time, why wouldn’t they do it again.

[@lysatekilah8924]

Where can I see it?

[@lolanila6233]

​@@lysatekilah8924 peacock. Melendez + Menudo

[@billythekidder7182]

Documentaries are opinion pieces crafted to make you feel one way or the other. They are not 100% truthful. It’s one side. They are murderers and belong in prison.

[@laurathomsen977]

They should be released. This case was the example of the time back then that made ALL children feel powerless to horrific treatment.

[@royharper2003]

they shot and killed their parents and you want them set free in society? You are as crazy as they are.

[@Scrabble12]

@@royharper2003 The defence is working lol

[@cristinamora7791]

​@@royharper2003 They kill a Child sexual abuser... you should thank them ...

[@mweber5459]

They were adults when they committed this crime. 🙄

[@76482]

​@@mweber5459 , That's exactly my thoughts. Absolutely no reason for those grown adults to keep living with "abusive" parents, especially if it was bad enough to brutally murder them. Move the heck out, report it to the police, file a civil lawsuit. Not to mention every story has 2 sides and dead people can't defend themselves against unsubstantiated allegations.

[@CEK51]

I always believed the brothers told the truth….. the father abused them! That’s what goes on in that industry. I believe the brothers should get out!!

[@gatdemun]

If OJ and Casey Anthony are walking free, these brothers should too. They served enough time

[@mariapadilla8061]

I absolutely agree. OJ is a monster and practically took Nicole's head off because of his jealousy..I don't agree that the menendez brothers should have killed their parents, but I can understand why.

[@timelessmusicfamilymusic9175]

When you have a set of Dream team attorneys to have your back of course your more likely to be set free. If Charles Manson had the money to hire OJ Dream attorneys, he probably not serving time either.

[@sarahdavis9275]

Seriously!!!

[@MissteryDiva]

Although OJ did get his Karma! And everyone know Casey Anthony killed her child- she lives in hiding

[@Arandomperson_online]

Totally agree 👍

[@terri3696]

They should be let out. What happened to them at the hands of their Parents is horrifying!

[@pinkaholic09]

This case needs more coverage and the brothers deserve a new trial ASAP.

[@LazyPirate8]

@@pinkaholic09 I think the Netflix show will pick it up.

[@wupfwupfinger2182]

I always asked myself why no one of the "Menudos" members never said something about it. Roy lives in Brazil today and he said something about it many, many years ago. He said that other members of Menudos were also abused by him.

[@dgabster7953]

They did! Some spoke up on the tv show, Cristina, from Univision. They made them look like greedy liars 😢

[@lionofjudah6774]

they did but pedo ring control social media....but we have to keep supporting them talking about it

[@clarissaturcios2346]

No one cares if it wasn't Ricky Martin.. Plus you can't rape one of the Menudos, they are all gay

[@ayashaniroshanisenaratne914]

​@dgabster7953 they may be jealous of the boys get everything. And also I think their relatives not live in usa . Dad said one time his father sent him to usa by bus not giving any money.

[@alicegoldzer]

Roy said that he lived with the guilt all this years of knowing that if he would had spoken up they would not be in jail. But from his stance, his trauma of having been “raped” was a huge thing and he “blocked it” and this is something that victims experience where they feel ashamed and go into denial. Roy was never the same and lived with the guilt of having been quiet.

[@robertcarneal7890]

Over 30 years in jail caused by a judge's shananagins. These lawyers in robes are a piece of work,

[@TheRight-handedStranger]

Well after O.J. everyone couldn’t believe a murderer of 2 people can just gets free, so others were paid for it.

[@Kyutenessss]

💯!!!!

[@pommiebears]

Politicians. They are voted into those robes. Give them a robe….everyone thought they were Gods, back then. They’re nothing more than lawyers who brown nosed enough to be voted.

[@ezragonzalez8936]

All good and dandy but what did Kitty Menéndez have to do with anything their self defense just falls apart!

[@Kyutenessss]

@@ezragonzalez8936 She enabled the abuse and even seemed protect this monster of a dad/pedo so yeah she had to go too.

[@ShayVidz]

The psychological abuse is the worst. And that is why I believe them. The “ rules” in the house. Nobody would randomly make that up.

[@melhew4102]

It always seemed that the court and lawyers were more upset about how those boys spent their daddys money than wanting to hear about what their daddy actually did to them.

[@dianazhora7357]

Daddy was also raping other young men/boys, so his death saved many others from the same abuse.

[@watchxfiles]

Yup

[@Ladybug211211]

Society may finally be ready to hear and believe that this abuse happened.

[@dianazhora7357]

Many didn't believe the brothers were raped by their own father, because they relied on their own childhood experiences. Now, society may be ready to accept that SA of children can and does happen within families.

[@natalietho948]

Absolutely time has changed

[@redpillfreedom6692]

​@@dianazhora7357It's more so that boys specifically can be sexually abused that's more readily accepted today than it was 30 years ago.

[@seconddemo35]

A good friend of mine recently shared that her biological father had been raping her oldest sister since she was 8-16. Her mother was out of town a lot on business( she had a big corporate job) and the dad took care of them. She remembered her dad calling the sister down late at night in a voice that sounded as if she was in trouble. She said she would fall asleep and not remember when she returned to their room. One day she went downstairs to find out what her sister had done only to see her sister completely naked sitting on the floor. When they finally told her mother, her mother accused the daughter of “seducing her husband “. My friends sister ended up running away and later ended up in a mental hospital. She is still not right to this day. Yes, people can be sick and abuse their own natural children.

[@KingAngel4Life]

They probably were so embarrassed to say what they were going through. Sad that they decided to do such a horrible thing to their parents, but even more horrible that a person that’s expected to protect them would hurt them as well as other’s in such a horrible manner.

[@eliaol4231]

We have this idea in our society that parents just naturally love their kids but then smth like this happens and it's not too uncommon, and people's bubbles get burst.

[@janicescott6569]

As a rule children live in fear of their molester’s. And as far as the boy band member goes, he probably was afraid of ruining his reputation. Not that he would be blamed but victim’s become ashamed.

[@ypcomchic]

Also had the boys reported it and not killed their parents and if the parents were charged with rape etc the amount of time they would have received would be less than 10 years!! These men have been in there for 30 years because of murder. It’s sad that rape charges don’t get more time in prison.

[@beckylynn209]

Let those poor guy's out of prison!! Its awful what they went through and, the mom is just as guilty as the dad was!! She knew everything!! 😡

[@mommyharris1111]

RCA records executive. Everyone knows what they’re doing to young men nowadays. It’s a great deal of trauma. Time to clean it up

[@oxford17]

I believed them on the stand about the abuse and their fear. I think they’ve done enough time. Let them go.

[@dinolemma]

Seriously. People get fixated on the brutal murder of the mother but she was complicit in the abuse.

[@oxford17]

@@dinolemma She never protected them. What they did was wrong; I don’t condone it, but they have been in prison for 30 years. They are not a danger to society.

[@bgregg55]

Their father & mother were both disgusting monsters. There is no doubt in my mind.

[@ideagirl]

Agree!

[@jennyeagan1840]

Agreed. Mom failed to protect them like moving in the middle of the night very far away.

[@luzesquivel2660]

Sure. Parents were NOT. There to defend themselves. Did anyone SAW THE ABUSE??

[@jennyeagan1840]

@@luzesquivel2660 There's another guy as a teen he was business associated with their dad. Stated he was also molested by the dad. Be interesting to hear what else he states. If memory could serve me a bit better, I believe their were other witnesses that were called telling about the father's abusive personality. Could be dismissed as hearsay. The father had a lot of money and was powerful. Prison actually could have kept the boys safe from the dad's connections. A weird twist of irony. Interesting as why two brothers would plot to kill their father. There was no money in it for them should they have not gotten caught? That's the bottom line for me.

[@luzesquivel2660]

@@jennyeagan1840 Yes. That happens very often, is why children prefer to run away. May the good Lord overwhelms you with blessings. "

[@israelitchai903]

They need to put in jail also the Manager of Menudo Edgardo Diaz..

[@orangepeel3465]

IT IS HORRIFIC WHAT THESE MEN WENT THROUGH.

[@ideagirl]

Truth!

[@unoimright5153]

No , it’s horrible what these kids did to their parents!! They were so happy after the murders, the brothers spent a lot of money and were partying !! Why !? Kill mom !?

[@Volaris27]

STILL.... THEY COMMITTED MURDER, THEY MURDERED THEIR MOTHER TOO SO,,, NO ONE SHOULD GET AWAY WITH MURDER. PERIOD THEY HAD OTHER CHOICES THAT THEY COULD HAVE MADE.. THEY NEED TO STAY IN JAIL.

[@Souxie123]

@@unoimright5153how easy to just stand with the abusive elders. And be convinced that their victims should have pretend to grieve the atrocious parents when they had been craving for freedom and safety from the very beginning of their lives. At least, these two young brothers saved other kids from their psychopathic father. You could have been one of these kids. And this man could have ending murdering his family as well. You POV is quite narrow minded : what would have happened if these degenerate parents were still alive, knowing how dangerous the father was ?

[@unoimright5153]

@@Souxie123The Mendez Bros, story has changed many times , but you believe them !? Lmfao ! Narrow minded and gullible ! The jury didn’t buy it but but but you just know that these two convicted murderer’s are telling the truth !! You haven’t even seen the evidence against these brothers, you haven’t watched the trials but but but you just know that the Mendez Bros wouldn’t lie ! These Bros. spent 700,000 in the months after they murdered their parents! Because, they were so sad and traumatized! Get out of here, FACTS OVER FEELINGS

[@kaylariggs5188]

If you've never saw the old documentaries on this, their parents did sick sick things to them. It was stomach turning.

[@chrisgullett4332]

No they did no't. They killed for money, and I would bet my last dollar they were never abused. They are evil killers.

[@mk8446]

How horrific. 💔😢

[@studiosinger]

Well they could have handled it the right way. They became murderers in the process. No excuse to kill of their parents.

[@chrisgullett4332]

@@studiosinger It also does not even make sense, because if the dad is abusing you, what reason is there for killing the mom? Oh they say she must have known, but in what world does her knowing mean they get a pass for murdering her? It is clear why they killed the mom, because if the dad dies she gets all the money, but if she dies too, then they get the money. They killed for money, and nothing else. People are just dumb to believe they were abused. Also, if he had been telling his cousin about the abuse, then how come the cousin never said anything about it? Then they mysteriously find an old letter, that I think we all know is not an old letter. Ink has changed in the past 30 years, and I bet if they test the ink it has chemicals init that did not exist in ink 30 years ago. No doubt in my mind if they win a new trial, the thing that will ruin their case is the ink in that letter. Yes the state will test the ink if they have to try the case again, and then their case falls apart.

[@mk8446]

@@studiosinger Do you remember how old they were when the murders happened, the kids. I was wondering why they didn't move out. I don't know the whole story I was young when this happened.

[@lourdafinn6528]

The hair loss was obviously stress telated, alopecia but nobody looked at that.

[@veracity8968]

That made me cry when watching the movie ! Poor boy yet his father pulled his hair mocked him and force him to wear new hair 🥲🥲🥲. May he rot in hell that monster father !

[@bcatblues725]

I hope these brothers can get out with this new evidence. They’ve been there a very long time.

[@pamelaboisvert8976]

They didn't make it up there father was greedy and sick

[@inaj27]

Too long 😢

[@TheLillipuss]

Always believe children first! Some desperate women will do anything to keep a man, including sacrificing their children. It’s disgusting but takes a lot of courage for a child to speak out. Kids NEED support!

[@artetface]

I agree 💯

[@Sindollx666x]

Absolutely

[@AB-gb4xf]

They were 18 and 21 ,they were not children!!!!!!

[@anywhoo]

I SAW IT ON THE BOYS FACES ON DAY ONE These boys were broken and what’s worse is their mother KNEW IT

[@jlr1176]

I remember this case when I was about 15 yo. I remember seeing them testify and watched the tears form in their eyes, describing such a shameful account of their lives, that they were not responsible for, but that their own disturbed father was. I love that they have found joy, in the midst of decades of incarceration. I truly hope the case is retried and justice prevails 😓🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼

[@SnowBall-hz6pu]

This is absolutely one of the saddest case I've ever heard. If a stranger had committed just a fraction of what their father did to them...both men would have been not just acquitted but probably never even been prosecuted. Why is it ok to defend yourself from a stranger but not from a family member!!! Those boys were tortured from their father from the time they were children thru young adulthood...and then sentenced to a lifetime of imprisonment! Set these men free!!

[@satsumamoon]

He wasnt doing anything WITH his son, he was doing these things TO his son.

[@barbarabreunis7788]

I never doubted their testimonies. I never understood how they could be put in jail for longer than 5 years.

[@dianazhora7357]

I just saw their testimonies recently and have to agree with you. They are more than believable.

[@barbarabreunis7788]

@@dianazhora7357 Exactly and you know what, they were spoiled brats too and of course they liked the money. But Lyle would have had a bright future ahead of him, probably in politics and as a business owner. No doubt about that. He had zero motive involving money. The only motive left was this. I feel that they basically put Kitty out of her misery. Since they were their parents and they had no choice but to love them instinctively, they will regret their choice every day. Especially Erik, since their mother hated him less. And who would have believed them back then? Besides that it would have been economic suicide to ruin their fathers career, the shame was too big. It would be the same if Barron Trump would go to the police saying he was raped by Donald Trump. People would think it must be a weird anger issues of a spoiled brat.

[@lisastark8907]

When you see what they are trying to normalize in our society today, it makes me wonder if they knew they were innocent the whole time. They wanted to make what happened to them normal and make defending themselves the crime. Is that not what's happening today in society? They've been perpetuating and indoctrinating society in a very deceptive way for eons! Just more proof of it right here. 3 decades later and we clearly see that Jeffery Epstein, Royalty, politicians, heads of state and celebrities have gotten away with the same disgusting, vile, horrific crimes! Their attorney is full of 💩 if he believes things would have gone better for them in a court of law today! Seems to me they needed a better lawyer!!

[@perrieargent9997]

A father as a bully, and an abuser, has a devastating effect on young people. No question. It is horrendous. Give the time the Mendendez brothers have served for this crime, the case needs to be urgently revisited.

[@male88263]

Problem too was that OJ Simpson case kill the momentum for the Melendez trial.

[@carriebell3566]

I truly hope these men get to see the outside. Growing up with a psychopath is a punishment in itself.

[@nadagabri5783]

In the first trial, if these bros were not abused. Then they were Oscar quality actors on the stand WHOA

[@angelwings7930]

Absolutely. And they were misread. Ok so they spent money after the murders. They were young, immature and finally liberated from abusers. They were dealing with ptsd and not making great decisions. They high-fived each other in court, again, it boiled down to being relieved that hell was over with and they were able to tell their story.

[@yikes7963]

There's no faking that emotion. It was absolutely gut wrenching to watch and to see the Prosecution belittle their truth.

[@pdales2257]

I hope their parents who committed these horrible abuses are burning in hell!!!! How could any mother allow anyone to abuse, especially sexual abusing her boys, 😠

[@fluffyminx]

I feel so bad for them. The 90's was such a bad time for something like this to happen. They were constantly made fun of ... Just like Lorena Bobbit.

[@royharper2003]

you feel bad for them? how do you feel for their parents that they shot and killed? What does Lorena Bobbit have to do with anything? she was a nutjob too.

[@jeniestra.]

You are right. People saw Lorena's case as some sort of joke.

[@matthuling8111]

I knew them boys were always telling the truth. The parents got what they deserved. End of story. Now let them poor men out ...

[@oblivion2967]

How embarrassing for the prosecutor to say that men can't be raped. How does she feel about that now? Infuriating.

[@julie4n4lLvr]

She was a completely awful person. Everything she said was nasty and narrow minded. She was so condescending about the tik tok movement as well. As if they have no right to express their opinion because they’re not lawyers

[@factualbreakdown3072]

I saw and heard a social associate of Jose Menendez say that it was known what he was doing to his sons, but that the "Country Club set" felt that this was a private, family matter and that none of them should get involved. No one condones murder, but there are mitigating factors here which cannot be denied. This "father" was abusing his sons and his wife retreated into a bottle and ENABLED it.

[@natashaferguson5425]

Agreed, it was horrific what the father did and the mother allowed it,they have done enough time they deserve to be released

[@lesliegomez4660]

Agreed! 👍

[@factualbreakdown3072]

@@natashaferguson5425 They've paid their debt to society and once they are out, they can get spiritual counseling to be fully repentant.

[@jessicagoodson7452]

​@@factualbreakdown3072you want them to repent for killing a guy who repeatedly raped them? Ok then.

[@ironmaven1760]

​@Factual Breakdown THEY don't need to repent for a damn thing! they need to simply get out and live what's left of their lives...asap!

[@Debthouse]

This is so tragic. The family member that withheld the lettet all these years is so ignorant. How could they not present that as soon as they discovered it? Hopefully, the brothers will receive some sort of reasonable restitution. Complete failure of the justice system.

[@Debthouse]

@Joan Arc It is beyond soul-crushing to think that after years of being abused and being pushed to unimaginable lengths to save yourself, the _victims_ of the abuse would end up incarcerated. I hope something can be done for them even though justice will never truly be served at this point. Considering many of the high-profile cases in the 90s and early 00s, it is fascinating to see how much influence the court of public opinion had in a pre-social media world.

[@Debthouse]

@Joan Arc Luckily they have each other for support.

[@evelynbohm]

Too bad they went on a spending spree after they murdered their parents. If they hadn’t, they would have been found innocent.

[@mizzmia4407]

Ahhh good point!!

[@musingsofharmony3159]

The letter doesn't prove anything if the murder was premeditated. A murderer can just write a letter to someone else saying anything. That someone is beating them, molesting them, etc.

[@BeeTee6017]

That’s the first thing I thought of... weren’t they trying to write a script...?

[@tsmith3286]

Yeah they waiting all these years hoping someone would turn the letter in.

[@90secondsuntilmidnight]

Their testimony was riveting during the 1st trial. So awful. With the letter, they would be out of prison.

[@dianazhora7357]

The letter was not admitted in the first trial which makes a case for a new trial. They can authenticate the age of the ink and handwriting. There is also a band member of Menudo who stepped forward and let it be known he was raped by their father.

[@90secondsuntilmidnight]

@@dianazhora7357 I made a mistake. I meant if that letter was in the 1st trial. I hope they get out. This is a miscarriage of justice.

[@Barbara-vk4fh]

When I was four years old, a ten year old neighbor boy sexually assaulted me. My mother told me not to do it anymore. The boy continued to assault me for the next three years. I didn't say anything because I didn't want my mother's disapproval. 1954 - 1957.

[@esthercolorado2128]

@@Barbara-vk4fh I am sorry you went through this, times have changed, back then I don’t think they had the department of children and services.

[@EmilyEverglot]

I don't think they killed him out of anger. They killed him because they were terrified of him! They killed him in self defense. This letter proves it!!

[@ANGELSURS]

Lol

[@yourkeysre]

I was terrified of my mother, who lock me in closet at 5yrs old and destroyed my life but yet I didn't kill her. At 15, I ran away from home.

[@ChaiCrimes]

They had other resources and planned the homicides. The dead parents are unarmed. Where's the self-defense?

[@fernandaolivares7926]

They actually said they felt safer at jail than in their house!...Imagine the hell those kids went through...

[@fernandaolivares7926]

​​@@yourkeysre being locked up in a closet sounds awful but not quite the same as being raped by your father hundreds of times while your mother allowed it...rape fractures people's souls to a different degree.

[@greenblood64]

I always believed the Menendez brothers when they said they were mentally and sexually abused by their father. It’s awful to think about what those young boys had to endure.

[@GoddessFourWinds]

The PTSD that exists from being constantly in fear for your life makes you a paranoid, hypersensitive, adult that has trouble trusting people and forming close bonds with other people, among other things like nightmares, panic attacks, being quick to label people with only good intentions as phonies, etc. People who've never experienced this can have a hard time understanding that this kind of abuse does not end when the victim leaves the relationship or is in a position to do something even when the physical abuse isn't happening.

[@savethedolphins99]

You are exactly right. So few ppl understand. Very well phrased. I'm sorry for what you went through.

[@i.quit.lmaooooooo]

you couldn't of said this better. thank you so much.

[@GoddessFourWinds]

@@savethedolphins99 I'm sorry I missed your comment. Thank you.

[@GoddessFourWinds]

@@i.quit.lmaooooooo You're welcome.

[@karenondo6634]

I think the Menendez Brothers should have been charged with Manslaughter, not what they got served with. The judge cheated the Menendez brothers. They were in complete fear of their lives.

[@marilynputman3164]

I’ve always believed these guys! I pray someone truly fights for them & gets this case over turned,they’ve done enough time! Praying for them both🙏🙏❤

[@rosyrain8]

Amen !

[@jazzyjaz9108]

I don't understand how the Menendez bros. got life when other people have committed multiple felonies and they have possiblity of parole when they finally kill someone

[@FluffAndMommaKitty]

This is heartbreaking. Let them out. I believed them as sad as it was

[@wishgodgirl1903]

So glad they’re getting another look, I felt it was unfair back then when their defense was limited to what the Judge felt was allowable…travesty really!

[@jackieprasek179]

Judges have too much power to decide what "evidence" should be omitted!

[@NewAccountWhoDis]

Honestly, I believed them.

[@angelwings7930]

I did too.

[@GeneralLeia]

💯. Thought it was a miscarriage of Justice at the time. Wish them the best.

[@NewAccountWhoDis]

@@GeneralLeia I agree. I think if it were to go to trial today, the outcome would be very different.

[@GreekRican]

i was very young when i remember this in the news. I watched the whole 2 trials and i fell im my heart it wasnt about the money. Thats what everyone was saying when i was young. People need to see all not what they see in headlines and not seeing the whole picture

[@transparentlyinvisible]

I remember this case. I believed the boys. I was terrified that they were sent to prison. I have heard of women in prison possibly on death row for defending themselves from their abuser. It's unbelievable. Why!

[@skarlatospanagiotis5000]

I was born in 1986 and I was between 5 and 10 years old when this case happened. Later I became a health scientist from the first day as a small child until today 40 years old I believe they are telling the truth that they were abused by their father

[@kimbok5971]

I wonder why the cousin never came forward, whether the letter was found or not. As long as the cousin read it, he could've come to their trial and testified that he did get a letter stating the abuse took place, whether or not he had the actual letter. The fact that their cousin never came forward and testified in their defense is telling. I don't buy it.

[@rachelann724]

they said he passed away

[@candiceparr4174]

@@rachelann724 How convenient

[@kimbok5971]

@@rachelann724 When? I'm talking about way back when the murder took place and the boys went to trial. I'm thinking the cousin was still alive then and apparently the letter existed at that time.

[@catzska]

Both Erik and Lyle were badly abused by BOTH their Mom and Dad. In my opinion I do believe both Erik and Lyle should be set free from prison. They both will forever have to live with their choice to murder their parents and I never agreed with the sentence they both received. They have been through enough. People who did NOT survive what they did will probably never understand what it is like to be horrifically abused and how it changes, affects and the constant terror you are in, yet I do because I to survived horrific abuse by my parents. Sadly so often children let alone adults are not believed if they do speak up. Being a survivor of abuse it is natural to want the person or people who abused you to stop them so they can no longer abuse. And sadly sometimes the survivor murders their abuser. The trauma is so deep and horrific. I support their release and I believe if given their freedom they both would do many great things to help other’s. Anybody that judges them or anybody that has suffered, survived abuse and believes the victims should not be freed ask yourself what you would do if somebody raped you or somebody you loved and inflicted such horrific abuse on you or a loved one. Regardless both have to live with so much life long trauma.

[@elsjemassyn8921]

These boys were never protected by society and the police. They had to take the law into their own hands They served their time set them free

[@DeGenereteMugiwara]

no they didn't i'm sorry way more kids go through worse sexual abuse and don't kill their parents and go on the worlds biggest shopping spree like nothings wrong

[@lizbourke6441]

I always believed them. Was so disappointed by the verdict.

[@whoswhoo]

Those two sons were driven by abuse to kill their evil parents . Set them free .

[@daniraposas6665]

I hope they do a review and release both. Everything they go through is really hard and painful.

[@karenondo6634]

I can't believe that parents would treat their children as the Menendez, mother and father would treat their children in the manner in which treated, if the parents really and truly loves their children. I believe Lyle and Eric told the truth about the abuse they endured.

[@Laskagleex]

The only problem is, they killed their mother too.

[@karengray5298]

Yes, a Mother who sat back and let the abuse go on for years, and years, and did absolutely nothing! She was as guilty as he was.

[@helenaharrington1922]

She was an alcoholc? Right

[@Silly.Old.Sisyphus]

send the trial judge to prison for contempt of court

[@KCsFunHouse]

They murdered their parents, there’s millions of people who were abused and didn’t murder their abuser. Let’s say the dad was abusing him, why kill the mom? They planned this and carried it out. Should they do life? Maybe not but is every case of someone who killed their abuser going to be relooked at now? Why should these two be a special case?

[@leeannjuday]

My thoughts exactly.

[@doriangrey9702]

They shouldn't. Justice was served. I'm not going to deny abuse allegations. They had choices. They could have left. The murders were planned and it was to inherit millions of dollars. They are guilty and should serve their sentences.

[@marygoff3332]

Mom participated too. Do research...

[@judithrandall4690]

So, are they implying that sexual abuse excuses cold-bloodily gunning down two unarmed people in their home, watching TV? And why would a man's claim of sexual abuse be immediately believed, when women's claims are not?

[@lisagomez321]

The judge needs to allow this abuse evidence. There were witnesses! They need to release these men! Where's the justice!!

[@tmp1111]

I think they need to be set free. All the people who said "their defense was the abuse excuse" were wrong.

[@lilyh317]

Why didn't family members who knew come forward at trial? Why didn't work associates come forward who knew. Instead the all kept their mouth shut and let these boys get further abused by the law. Seriously? They should be charged with a crime too.

[@barbarabrady1267]

They did in the first trial. The judge wouldn’t allow that as evidence in the second trial

[@Mamasylvi3]

The emotion they both display does not appear faked at all. These poor men... I'm a SA survivor myself and I couldn't fathom it coming from one of the people you're supposed to trust most.