New ‘Luxury Tax’ Could Change EVERYTHING for Newcastle & Man City Transfers

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@TheKickOff
@TheKickOff 2 ай бұрын
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@cctv5348
@cctv5348 2 ай бұрын
Lfc and Manu subsidise the league, arsenal too. Seems only fair mega rich owners should be hampered like the big clubs.
@liamtrevor4370
@liamtrevor4370 2 ай бұрын
Fuck stakemake and fuck all other betting companies. Use your noggin kids
@WOOOPdoctorFROGhere
@WOOOPdoctorFROGhere 2 ай бұрын
THE RULES ARE CONSISTENT! Jesus christ, this is such an uninformed discussion. I don't get how football fans don't actually bother to look at the facts of these kind of issues and just spout nonsense like it's the truth. City haven't faced a points deduction as it's an entirely different issue to the Forest and Everton issue. City's alleged transgression is financial doping - Everton and Forest's breaches were NOT doping related. In its simplest form, City have "allegedly" used their own Middle Eastern companies to sponsor City at hugely inflated sums in order to make it look as though City are earning huge money in sponsorships. The premier league are building a case to argue that these sponsorships were not made at market value. They can't just give them a points deduction when City's accounts are healthy - the league are pursuing this legally, trials of this magnitude take months to prepare. It will be for a Court to determine if City have over inflated these sponsorship deals. It's entirely different to Everton and Forest. It has nothing to do with the size of the clubs or that "City can afford top lawyers". Every club can afford the best legal Counsel in the land, which is why Everton and Forest have used the very best KCs in the country. What football fans CONTINUE to ignore, is that every club has to publish its accounts. This is the reason Everton and Forest got deductions. Their accounts clearly show the losses that go beyond the allowable losses. It's in black and white, the losses are there on the balance sheet. So by mereley publishing their accounts they've already breached the rules. It's the equivalent of having two defendants in murder trials. City are denying any involvement in the crime, and therefore the CPS must build a lengthy case and take City to trial. Everton on the other hand have been caught on CCTV bludgeoning the victim to death, they immediately pleaded guilty and therefore they were sent straight to sentencing as there was no requirement for trial. It's baffling how stupid people can be, thinking there's some kind of corruption targeting the smaller clubs.
@mrphish1318
@mrphish1318 2 ай бұрын
No one is arguing anything you just said the issue was that this was proposed after Everton and forest received points deductions and they basically want to sack of point deductions for fine’s instead which in the grand scheme of things when a club is owned by one of the richest countries in the world it’s pointless and only protects them from point reductions. They did go on a tangent on it all because Brian wants to become the city rivals in the transfer market but the original point they made was the rule change would have been corrupt in only helping big teams with unlimited money like city, Newcastle and Chelsea to run away
@WOOOPdoctorFROGhere
@WOOOPdoctorFROGhere 2 ай бұрын
@@mrphish1318 I think you need to listen more carefully (although I suppose it's forgivable that you stop listening whenever the kick off clowns start talking). They spend the first quarter of this video moaning that Everton and Forest only got deductions because they're smaller clubs. The fat lad Chelsea fan at one point even says "the rules need to be consistent" as he's got it into his stupid mind that City are playing under separate rules to Everton and Forest. As I've said, the rules ARE consistent. There's no conspiracy favouring City. They've committed an entirely different offence to Everton and Forest, which will take a long time to establish.
@mrphish1318
@mrphish1318 2 ай бұрын
@@WOOOPdoctorFROGhere​​⁠​⁠ 1 just went through the entire video and skipping to josh talking at no point does he say that to what I could find if you can time stamp it then fairs 2 the only one that thinks it’s a conspiracy is Brian because his club is effected the most 3 the consistency point you’re making is still valid because even if not all the charges are ffp breaches they still have some but the difference is Everton and forest admitted it city just denied the charges the inconsistency is that if all it takes is to basically say nuh huh and take years to prove it that is an inconsistency
@noms7303
@noms7303 2 ай бұрын
Informed voices fall on deaf ears
@WOOOPdoctorFROGhere
@WOOOPdoctorFROGhere 2 ай бұрын
@@mrphish1318 he did say it, it's not my job to teach you how to listen. Sadly you're clearly one of those football fans I've referred to in my first comment that simply doesn't care about facts. I've clearly explained the difference between the City and Everton breaches and your conclusion is "nuhh just deny it". Jesus christ. Read the comment again. Everton's losses on their ACCOUNTS were what they were punished for. They couldn't "deny" it, that's not how accountancy works. The evidence was in black and white on their balance sheet. That's why they got the points deduction so quickly. The City charges are entirely different, they aren't being pursued for losses on a balance sheet because they don't have the losses that Everton and forest had.
@Toonbarmy09
@Toonbarmy09 2 ай бұрын
Bit late to this one, Premier league have already said it’s not happening
@jakecollin5499
@jakecollin5499 2 ай бұрын
I don't mind luxury tax ideas but it can't be done retroactively to suit favorites. That is the literal opposite of integrity
@edrahimovic
@edrahimovic 2 ай бұрын
​@@jakecollin5499 I think it's a good idea, but first you HAVE to sort out the 115 and not just have a "slap on the wrist fine" It should be the equivalent, i.e. something like 20x what you overpent on AND/OR 2 year transfer? Something of the sort
@leightonwaugh8713
@leightonwaugh8713 2 ай бұрын
Yeah this vid came to party abit late. Good debate tho...
@jbo4547
@jbo4547 2 ай бұрын
9 minutes in Brian says "guys like Isak who ever heard of them?" "Unproven" lol wtf
@r3lentl3sGaming1
@r3lentl3sGaming1 2 ай бұрын
They were kind of unproven
@jh55x
@jh55x 2 ай бұрын
@@r3lentl3sGaming1no, they weren’t. Only if you’re a casual.
@daniyalwaliaziz6500
@daniyalwaliaziz6500 2 ай бұрын
He was getting monitored at Dortmund & Sociedad.
@samdoesvids1339
@samdoesvids1339 2 ай бұрын
Isak had a poor season just before we signed him, Livramento was coming back from a major injury, we were mocked for signing Gordon, we’ve made some astute signings
@connorgrimshaw5457
@connorgrimshaw5457 2 ай бұрын
@@samdoesvids1339mate you spent 70 mil on isak nothing astute about that and like 50 on Gordon hardly wheeler dealering
@brendongregis2424
@brendongregis2424 2 ай бұрын
The real problem is you can't let countries own teams. Even the richest person on the planet cant compete with an oil state. Abromovich set it off, but that Neymar transfer is why prices went crazy.
@JourdanChaney
@JourdanChaney 2 ай бұрын
Kg acts like united don’t spend the most in the league 😂😂😂
@brodiespanton6942
@brodiespanton6942 2 ай бұрын
When did they?
@JourdanChaney
@JourdanChaney 2 ай бұрын
@@brodiespanton6942 the past 5 seasons they spent the most money in the league
@21DMN
@21DMN 2 ай бұрын
And none knows whats the money come from because they dont winning nothing in the last 15 years.
@jonnyhill1155
@jonnyhill1155 2 ай бұрын
​@@21DMNlook at their revenue earnings
@patrickbateman9850
@patrickbateman9850 2 ай бұрын
He’s a belter of the highest order
@nazaten
@nazaten 2 ай бұрын
FFP was created to protect the big clubs, and stop clubs like newcastle from doing what man city did. top clubs stay at the top, everyone else stay below. clubs like united got to spend pretty much however they wanted before ffp
@Samweak
@Samweak 2 ай бұрын
Rules are voted on by prem clubs, so atleast 14 clubs voted in FFP, why would they all vote to keep the big 6 in power?
@Samweak
@Samweak 2 ай бұрын
United get to spend that much because they’re arguably the second biggest club in the world, they’re massive, there revenue is MASSIVE! They’ve had parasitic owners for a decade or so now and are still able to spend more than anyone else without breaking spending rules
@marcus-sky
@marcus-sky 2 ай бұрын
And Chelsea Roman era
@cctv5348
@cctv5348 2 ай бұрын
And yet the ESL was rejected and the big clubs are forced to share PL revenue which has created the strange predicament of parachute payments for relegated clubs.
@johnrichmond8978
@johnrichmond8978 2 ай бұрын
@@Samweak ...because they are not intelligent enough to reject weak argumentation. They cannot apply logic. People do stupid things all the time FFP and VAR are two recent stupid ideas.
@deantierney5238
@deantierney5238 2 ай бұрын
I feel disgusted for Newcastle. They've clearly been targeted and these "new rules" seem tailored to hurt them. The fact they have to sell players now to make money and sign others is just a slap in the face to them. The FA or Premier league clearly don't want them muscling in and the corruption is clear as day
@LiamGO
@LiamGO 2 ай бұрын
🎻🎻🎻
@Freddogod
@Freddogod 2 ай бұрын
You realise these rules were in place well before the Newcastle takeover?
@chilibeer3912
@chilibeer3912 2 ай бұрын
Brian?
@jun3078
@jun3078 2 ай бұрын
@@Freddogod He is talking about the "new rules" post Newcastle takeover (ie. no transfer between affiliated clubs/fair market value for sponsors/no owner-affiliated sponsors/new squad cost control rule due to implement 2025) not whatever rules you have in your head. Learn to read before you type.
@jonnyhill1155
@jonnyhill1155 2 ай бұрын
Why would the prem want another team to cheat
@InterYamah
@InterYamah 2 ай бұрын
Let newcastle run away with everything man, only proper fans left in the prem anyway
@davidwebster5946
@davidwebster5946 2 ай бұрын
"Newcastleade a mistake by buying players like Isak" 😅 in the 3 seasons since the takeover season 1 avoided a certain relegation, season 2 champions league, season 3 competing for 6th This clown would have us buying a load of average players which would probably have us lower down the table
@celticbarry9877
@celticbarry9877 2 ай бұрын
To be fair you can be successful on the cheap if you are smart. Sociedad only paid £6million for Isak, Lyon only paid £15million for Guimaraes. If your scouting is really good you can get the same guys for much cheaper just by buying them earlier. like Ajax bought Frenkie De Jong for £5million, Barcelona bought Pedri for £10million, Atletico bought Rodri for £15million, Dortmund - Sancho, Dortmund - Haaland, Brighton - Caicedo etc etc etc Spurs recently signed Udogie and Van De Ven for only about £40million combined now they are probably worth £60million+ each having only played about 30 games. It's not that difficult to do, you do need to be a little lucky but it's not impossible or that difficult really.
@user-bq2tc6dh6t
@user-bq2tc6dh6t 2 ай бұрын
im not sure he’s saying that at all
@davidwebster5946
@davidwebster5946 2 ай бұрын
@@celticbarry9877 nobody gets success by only buying cheap players. We also bought players like Pope for £10m, Targett for £15m, Minteh for £7m, Burn for £10m, Trippier for £12m. Ironically Bruno and Isak have probably both more than doubled in value so it's a really stupid comment to make. Especially after they payed for themselves by helping us qualify for the champions league for the first time in 20 years.
@mrphish1318
@mrphish1318 2 ай бұрын
Ye that was the mistake don’t like how city did it but they did it well they raised the floor straight away before raising the roof Newcastle have a championship floor and top of the league roof it’s not fifa you can’t have a solid 11 with no back up that’s his point
@davidwebster5946
@davidwebster5946 2 ай бұрын
@@mrphish1318 your both completely ignorant of the situation if you think Newcastle have only got a solid XI and no back up. We have 12 players out, many of them arguably first XI players and are 8th with a game in hand on 7th. If all the back up players were championship level that wouldn't be the case. It's almost like none of you can read a league table
@thetruth4654
@thetruth4654 2 ай бұрын
FFP is about protecting the top 4 originally, so i think FFP needs to change, it makes it way to hard for any of the other clubs to compete with United, Liverpool, Arsenal and Chelsea financially.
@Coffey__
@Coffey__ 2 ай бұрын
Big fan of the current recent panel of lads on this Pod.
@xswiiftt
@xswiiftt 2 ай бұрын
I am except for the arsenal fan, bit jarring
@oakhow
@oakhow 2 ай бұрын
@@xswiifttthat’s just arsenal fans lol
@oliverharford5892
@oliverharford5892 2 ай бұрын
Nothing on the old school tho let’s be honest
@kristianlazovski1512
@kristianlazovski1512 2 ай бұрын
Honestly I love this squad it feel complete again I think when the spurs fan here it’s a complete circle and it compliments itself very well, Geordie has done well to build another good podcast squad because I didn’t think the last one could be replaced
@raemongill19
@raemongill19 2 ай бұрын
Brian doesn’t understand in order to make changes there has to be a starting point/cut off from old procedures. No matter what moment in time this happens there will always be a moment in time where one gets cut off right before and one team snuck away with it right before. Unlucky for Newcastle, but these rules need to be made
@tommasotonelli2120
@tommasotonelli2120 2 ай бұрын
realistically if u want the teams to become even you should allow the bottom teams to spend the most and the top teams to spend the least
@realld50
@realld50 2 ай бұрын
Everyone has known the Premier Leagues been a joke since 2010. They created this by their own negligence and greed. I hope nothing gets done and they created a 1 team league out of ignorance and arrogance.
@elixirix
@elixirix 2 ай бұрын
this line up is so much better than the old lot imho. just been pissing myself first at J Henderson, then at there's only one saudi arabia...: )
@diabeetus_9837
@diabeetus_9837 2 ай бұрын
I feel like the fairest solution would be to set a blanket spending cap that applies to all teams. If you can afford to spend up to the cap, feel free. If you can’t, you can’t. But it stops teams big and small spending a ridiculous amount of money.
@mnb9162
@mnb9162 2 ай бұрын
Can't do it in our sport..... You can do it in a controlled market... Like the USA.... But it doesn't work in ours.... If you apply a tough cap.... Saudi, China etc get a HUGE advantage.... But what you could do is apply a High cap.... Then allow all clubs to spend as much as they like to the highest Revenue club..... Any predicted losses would then need to be injected in cash BEFORE they occur....
@badatgamesluke4949
@badatgamesluke4949 2 ай бұрын
What do you think of giving city 6 point deduction every season until all Chargers are made up for them but up until 2030
@ds_7
@ds_7 2 ай бұрын
Spending caps are stupid, they will stop the premier league from being the best league in the world, the Saudi league will take over
@jamesnewstead7099
@jamesnewstead7099 2 ай бұрын
Someone doesn't understand money
@Heizzer47
@Heizzer47 2 ай бұрын
Can’t since there’s more than 1 competition and league. It works in F1 for the reasons you listed but it won’t work in football/premier league
@user-ts3ko6yg3m
@user-ts3ko6yg3m 2 ай бұрын
Man City haven’t broken FFP these clowns just scream 115 and don’t even know what the chargers are about 😂
@gfh68
@gfh68 2 ай бұрын
Well 5 of the 115 charges are for breaking ffp and 54 of Them are for not providing accurate and up to date financial information. If the financial information that city have provided have not been accurate then they could potentially have broken FFP 59 times combined
@alecjohnson5269
@alecjohnson5269 2 ай бұрын
YOUR SPOT ON LOTS OF FINANCIAL JEALOUS ANTI CITY KNOBSOCKS
@WOOOPdoctorFROGhere
@WOOOPdoctorFROGhere 2 ай бұрын
it's embarrassing isn't it. They think that City are getting preferential treatment over Forest and Everton despite the rule violations being completely different.
@mnb9162
@mnb9162 2 ай бұрын
The rules aggressively make clubs look at ways to increase revenue.... You've got to have a 1st class conveyor belt Academy.... You've got to invest heavy in your stadium capacity/ experience..... brand, overseas fan creation etc to boost revenue & transfer spend....
@kieranbarlow4359
@kieranbarlow4359 2 ай бұрын
Thanks for the stalemate recommendation been looking for another betting app for a while 🤝
@danielbridgdwater6107
@danielbridgdwater6107 2 ай бұрын
As a long term solution after mentioning academy spending. You could do a nfl draft like spending cap - e.g. city finish first they’re academy spend is £0 Liverpool finishes 2nd it’s £10m and so on and so on that way that way it promotes youth setup and development in England (helping out national team hopefully) hinders top clubs from staying top for years and years and that way big clubs can still spend top money buying these talented youngsters when they’re older giving these smaller clubs a lot more to play with
@milliefrankieshaw2009
@milliefrankieshaw2009 2 ай бұрын
Just to make you guys aware, villa spent 119m in the 1st year of a 3 year cycle, 40m of which can be written off (something to do with the WSL) so although it’s still high and it falls out their budget for year 1 , villa don’t necessarily have to sell and funds can be raised in other ways
@josephherman739
@josephherman739 2 ай бұрын
Lovely group of lads this
@jamespanter8761
@jamespanter8761 2 ай бұрын
Surely, the answer is as simple as a percentage based cap, where the teams at the bottom can (if they're able) spend 20% more... This would allow newly promoted teams to spend big, encourage investment in Championship teams, and allow the closing of the "gap" to City... The further down the table you finish the more you can spend... The higher up the table you finish, the more glory / trophies you get.
@jonnyhill1155
@jonnyhill1155 2 ай бұрын
This would never work tbh
@gstarraw232
@gstarraw232 2 ай бұрын
Simply throw a premiership transfers cap winners have 30 million to spend the lower u finish the more money your get to spend the teams that go up can spend the most because there need it sick of seeing top 6 spending 100+ it’s becoming boring
@BurnCKC
@BurnCKC 2 ай бұрын
Talks about Villa getting good money for Grealish and being able to invest in the squad....but forgets they only got good money because of Man City.
@jbo4547
@jbo4547 2 ай бұрын
Irrelevant
@samuelbrown3326
@samuelbrown3326 2 ай бұрын
united would of paid it
@mrphish1318
@mrphish1318 2 ай бұрын
Every team was going to spend minimum 80 to get him
@DavidKateeba
@DavidKateeba Ай бұрын
@@mrphish1318his buy out clause was 100m
@nowayout20042003
@nowayout20042003 2 ай бұрын
What I’ve been saying for a number of years. Yes a cap on wages is a start but also to calm down Man City you state a squad of 23 players can’t cost any more than £500m they already have 3-4 players worth £500m then it’ll allow the promoted teams to compete & values for players worth £1-20m “last day of transfer Arsenals squad is valued at £480m these are their potential players worth £20m & less” I know it sounds fantasy football but it’s the only option to make it competitive at the top. Look at F1 all teams have same car design, tyres, driver assistances, whose the best driver it’s not Hamilton.
@davidabarrdb
@davidabarrdb 2 ай бұрын
Totally agree about Villa and it hurts to say that being a Villa fan but we will not be aloud to for fill our potential in the next few years with financial constraints!
@jacquesmassard9226
@jacquesmassard9226 2 ай бұрын
it seems like a good way for the smaller clubs to make some money off the bigger clubs. that's usually how the luxury tax system works in the states. Say city pays 100 million in the tax and that money goes to all the other teams. it would help their bottom line which the smaller clubs need.
@LiamGO
@LiamGO 2 ай бұрын
My view is that clubs should be allowed to spend what they want, you should reward ambition not punish it. Brighton have pocketed loads of that money for transfers whereas it should have been reinvested properly so they could push forward
@jacquesmassard9226
@jacquesmassard9226 2 ай бұрын
they should have a luxury tax like the nba based on wages where if you pay above an amount you pay double the amount you spent over the limit and it is sent to the other clubs in the league. Also the idea there could be a big 10 forgets that everton use to be part of the "big 5" and someone else will fall in all this nonsense. also this could collapse if the price of oil hit all time lows or etc....
@aniljothomas3
@aniljothomas3 2 ай бұрын
KG is absolutely spitting facts with regards to Roman Abramovic ruining the PL with his money and influence.
@luvyarora0712
@luvyarora0712 2 ай бұрын
I miss the live full stream shows.
@johnmcgillivary8312
@johnmcgillivary8312 2 ай бұрын
End of the day you cant ask for strict regulations when teams are now 10 years plus into unregulated spending. Its like starting a race and some are 5m from the finish line but we all playing the same weather conditions so its "fair". If a club in the future ever does a Leicester and it all clicks for a season the "bigger" clubs then poach the talent and you need to somehow strike it lucky consistently to keep up. Regulations work when we all start at the same starting point thats impossible so amy rules are unfair.
@welshwizardzzz423
@welshwizardzzz423 2 ай бұрын
Realistically this is creeping towards change the rules so that city don’t have to face consequences I’m really going off football it’s so skewed towards the clubs at the top of the table on and off the pitch. Fed up
@AlexStevens10
@AlexStevens10 2 ай бұрын
Absolutely 0 signs of intelligent life anywhere with this conversation
@keskesay7466
@keskesay7466 2 ай бұрын
Haha Isak and Tonali are “60,70,80 million pound signings ” literally none of them cost 70 or 80 million.
@TheUltimatewomble
@TheUltimatewomble 2 ай бұрын
Player's wages and then you have another problem in agents fees cos agents are absolute shark's
@haarisnoray3474
@haarisnoray3474 2 ай бұрын
The show is getting better each week again
@Harris.azj.97
@Harris.azj.97 2 ай бұрын
Loved the energy on this video
@NickInwood-fq2tq
@NickInwood-fq2tq 2 ай бұрын
As a Chelsea fan the FA need to deal with Man City/Chelsea etc first BEFORE the end of season let alone bringing in this new financial rule a lot of teams will exploit. Stop going after teams with only a few charges and go after the main culprits and deal with THEM.
@ryiin
@ryiin 2 ай бұрын
The Aston Villa point totally pops Brian's Argument
@RonanTyrrell
@RonanTyrrell 2 ай бұрын
Just have a spend cap for all teams to compete fairly
@davidabarrdb
@davidabarrdb 2 ай бұрын
I really believe clubs need a limit on players squads at all levels. Man City have top players in lots of other countries and it simply shouldn't be allowed to happen or capped.
@KevinTwist
@KevinTwist 2 ай бұрын
29:34 would be smart to sell Bruno G instead of Isak then go out and get Matt O’Riley for £25m etc
@deanharding740
@deanharding740 2 ай бұрын
Rich clubs buy players from less rich teams and keep the money flowing around the system. You also have to have a system where new owners coming into clubs are able to “invest” in buying better players so you can compete at the level you want to compete at. The current rules put big brakes on this and therefore the current rules are anti-competitive and protect the traditional big teams.
@imArcheRR
@imArcheRR 2 ай бұрын
If they just introduced a hard ceiling that you couldnt go over it would probably introduce fairness, a luxury tax just makes the FA money and doesnt actually make a level playing field
@totalprocall6894
@totalprocall6894 2 ай бұрын
A level playing field hasn't existed for MANY decades. It only mattered since cartel clubs came under threat.
@imArcheRR
@imArcheRR 2 ай бұрын
@@totalprocall6894 yh 100%, even as a spurs fan who's part of the 'big 6' we cannot compete with the other teams who outspend us yet we're held to the same standard for winning trophy's. I think it's better for everyone (outside of Chelsea/ Man City) if the rules were stricter
@mrphish1318
@mrphish1318 2 ай бұрын
They in a way have the hard ceiling now they can’t have a net spend of 150m
@imArcheRR
@imArcheRR 2 ай бұрын
@@mrphish1318 fair enough I didn't know that but realistically only like half the league at most could afford to spend that much consistently
@mrphish1318
@mrphish1318 2 ай бұрын
@@imArcheRR it’s in a 3 year span so they can’t spend 150 each year only if they make money to counteract the spending it’s probably the best system but it came suddenly which coursed the issues
@tonyeselema1592
@tonyeselema1592 2 ай бұрын
3 of the top 4 have responsibly spent money (that other 1 being city) - so how can you say teams can’t compete. The teams that stupidly spend big money on players who don’t kick on are teams like Chelsea and United, and they’re dreadful.
@brodiespanton6942
@brodiespanton6942 2 ай бұрын
Why they taking about the new rule change but none of them actually know the new rules they’re implementing
@mrphish1318
@mrphish1318 2 ай бұрын
The rule would have been in the most basic way of saying it, teams can spend up to an amount with no penalties after that threshold is passed they get a fine on the transfer that goes round the league. The rule is public knowledge just like the sin bin rule was
@ryanevans126
@ryanevans126 2 ай бұрын
I think a transfer fee cap each window be fair say u only can spend 100 million per window and say max 300k on wages if that happened the prem be lot more open
@stuartstuart2767
@stuartstuart2767 2 ай бұрын
Everton had to sell richarlison at a discounted price to Tottenham and still broke the rule
@Arty2senis
@Arty2senis 2 ай бұрын
Everton could sell Keane for 50M when they could and be fine financially
@CimbomFanFiction
@CimbomFanFiction 2 ай бұрын
They should make a cap and a penalty for going over that gets distributed to the bottom 10 lowest spenders
@JimmyWashingtonII
@JimmyWashingtonII 2 ай бұрын
Tonali is a big name in Italy. Many AC Milan fans hated the move
@BellyGood07
@BellyGood07 2 ай бұрын
Arsenal fan not wanting Newcastle to be able to spend freely, but at the same time rumored with buying players like Bruno & Isak from Newcastle 🤣
@ikorraks
@ikorraks 2 ай бұрын
The lad at 15 mins going on for like the 4th video about how good Monchi is and what he's done at Villa, he joined way after the summer window, can someone please tell him. Currently Monchi has shipped out some deadwood and bought Rogers from Middlesbrough and a young lad from Serbia in January, he's not transformed our team with his genius signings. If you're going to give credit out hand it to the right people. Lange was a much much bigger part of how this team has been built and now he's at Spurs, with their current team and Ange they could really push on next season now.
@marktony9737
@marktony9737 2 ай бұрын
Prem said this wont happen, well until they have to find Ctiy guilty. I hope it happens
@tonyeselema1592
@tonyeselema1592 2 ай бұрын
Newcastle have top talented squad, it’s rubbish to say that they have 3-5 world class players and the rest are championship players
@k17nopasi
@k17nopasi 2 ай бұрын
Anyone else notice they deleted all the old Kickoff videos? Rip prime Kickoff
@yanko84
@yanko84 2 ай бұрын
Stop promoting betting sites Sandro is watching 😵
@TottenhamEz
@TottenhamEz 2 ай бұрын
Tottenham have spent years building the stadium and creating so many revenue streams to put us in the position that we are in now, what have newcastle or any if the smaller clubs done to raise there revenue, ultimately thats what this is about, clubs cant lose 100s of millions a year anymore, if newcastle invested in infrastructure which according to some of the reports ive read doesnt count to FFP/PSR, then you can spend more on players
@conoroconghaile1419
@conoroconghaile1419 2 ай бұрын
It's ridiculous, they break the rules and then just pay more money to fet out of trouble. Ridiculous
@DJJ616
@DJJ616 2 ай бұрын
One thing i feel Brian ignores when he mention’s Newcastle having to sell players to keep up with ffp Is , Newcastle this season have been very disappointing, knocked out early in the ucl , no real cup run and likely to miss out on any European football next year That’s a lot of potential prize money they’ve missed out on , you can can’t expect / want to compete with the top club’s financially if you’re not backing it up on the pitch.
@jun3078
@jun3078 2 ай бұрын
Well, do you know what it takes to be "backing it up on the pitch"? squad depth aka transfer spending and the cycle continues
@SirAmnesia
@SirAmnesia 2 ай бұрын
we have not been disapointing, that's absolutely not true as a newcastle fan, maybe in the eyes of neutrals. A bad call away from getting to knockouts of UCL/UEL, a last minute goal away from semi finals in carabao cup, and absoloutley caked in long term injuries. I'd consider it a good season, if we get top 8 that's what i predicted at the start of the season even without the injuries so would be more than happy with it
@DJJ616
@DJJ616 2 ай бұрын
@@SirAmnesia I agree that you guys have had really bad injuries , and you’re making the most of your bad situations , but you have to look at it from the least optimistic perspective If I told you at the start of the season you’d finish outside the top 7 and get knocked out of the ucl group stages , you’d be really disappointed by that Ultimately you’re having to sell players for ffp reasons because you’re not playing/ performing well enough to bring in revenue that justifies spending like a top club.
@DJJ616
@DJJ616 2 ай бұрын
@@jun3078 I guess you could argue it’s a case of chicken or the egg , do you spend to build a good team and compete for trophies or do you do what spurs did and build from the ground up and out yourself in a position to spend by performing We’ve seen the blueprint with spurs , where they didn’t spend crazy amounts and still consistently played in Europe
@cameronpeterson5961
@cameronpeterson5961 2 ай бұрын
I find it crazy that Arsenal goes under the radar with their spending. Over the last ten years arsenal has the fourth biggest transfer deficit in the world; beaten only by Chelsea, Man U and City. And their deficit isn’t that far behind those three either. Arsenal has been spending extremely poorly.
@zacharymartinez8491
@zacharymartinez8491 2 ай бұрын
Do these people seriously not know (after the countless times they’ve spoken on the topic) that PSR rules are literally voted on and passed by the CLUBS in the premier league? These clubs breaking the rules are fully aware of them and know they are breaking them!
@human_error1
@human_error1 2 ай бұрын
How about a points deduction AND a fine? Surely that's the fairest way
@DaCoochieBets
@DaCoochieBets 2 ай бұрын
Ofcourse Arsenal wants Villa and Newcastle to have to sell, who else would be in a position to buy them? oh gee, its Arsenal!
@Arty2senis
@Arty2senis 2 ай бұрын
Arsenal couldn't spend in January because of FFP.
@therealhb1763
@therealhb1763 2 ай бұрын
@@Arty2senisyeah we wanted luiz couldn’t get him
@Arty2senis
@Arty2senis 2 ай бұрын
@@therealhb1763 because Arsenal didn't have enough money to spend.
@therealhb1763
@therealhb1763 2 ай бұрын
@@Arty2senis we have but ffp are restricting everyone
@Arty2senis
@Arty2senis 2 ай бұрын
@@therealhb1763 because there are rules. But I am happy they exist
@dilan4123
@dilan4123 2 ай бұрын
This whole 115 charges taking longer whilst correct, could easily be condensed because a lot of the charges are for the same thing but in different years. You can then further condense them but taking the first 2-3 year period the allegations are for and decide if City are guilty of any charges during that period. If they are guilty of any of those charges, make that call and instantly everyone knows City are already guilty of some charges, then work on the next 2-3 year period and so on. Then if City know they are already found guilty of a few with more potentially incoming, they won’t be buying any players for a while knowing potentially there are some big charges on the way. Deal with things proactively instead of creating a cloud
@Skellster84
@Skellster84 2 ай бұрын
Fed up about hearing aboot New-Castle. Crying because they’re not being allowed to buy everyone else’s best players.
@stephentozer1
@stephentozer1 2 ай бұрын
Brighton aren't working on a profit, they owe their chairman around £500m
@FurioussBear
@FurioussBear 2 ай бұрын
Chelsea fans really think they were any different than City or Newcastle. The argument of 'we were playing European football before roman' . Well done mate. 😂😂 your point?
@ShaneAlex91
@ShaneAlex91 2 ай бұрын
About the City situation.. they have to punish them or another team could just come along and do the same because they know the punishment won't be severe enough. Look what happened to Juventus. Did the Serie A care? Not a chance.
@samross316
@samross316 2 ай бұрын
could do f1 budget style where spending is based off finish position so top 4 get a budget and top 6 then top 10 and so on could even reverse it so 16th-20th get the most
@mrphish1318
@mrphish1318 2 ай бұрын
That’s not how the f1 works they earn more prize money depending on team position not the spending cap
@samross316
@samross316 2 ай бұрын
could just do say 200 mil top 4 down to 100 mil bottom 5
@mrphish1318
@mrphish1318 2 ай бұрын
@@samross316 that’s completely stupid lad it’s not a very constructive response I’ve given but that is the worst thing I’ve ever heard
@mrphish1318
@mrphish1318 2 ай бұрын
@@samross316 that would make the top 4 permanently top 4 because they can send more then everyone else that’s just silly
@yardsale7859
@yardsale7859 2 ай бұрын
All these people that say mancity should be charged and stripped of titles and villa does great with there money. Why not strip the teams the profit off them. Villa would be no where without the 100 mill of dirty money city spent on them.
@user-yr6pq8ec9m
@user-yr6pq8ec9m 2 ай бұрын
Brian says why should we sell our best players we've had them 2 mins, mate cause you don't make enough money. Having the richest owners doesn't mean anything, you need to make money to spend momey. Hypocitical
@mandypyle6495
@mandypyle6495 Ай бұрын
That arsenal fan is so against any other team breaking into the top 6 let’s all be honest,the new rules were designed to stop Newcastle from doing a Chelsea and a Man City,we all need a competitive premier league but it isn’t like that because we have. Our own super league in the premier league and that’s the cartel six.
@ikebennett5349
@ikebennett5349 2 ай бұрын
Funny how they don’t have Craig on this Show when this topic pops up considering how he schooled them on the City Slander last time.
@wolterken
@wolterken 2 ай бұрын
Could the new rules made by the PL and FA be an effort to counter the European Super League that some of the big clubs on mainland Europe still want. So if the English clubs can keep outspending those traditional big clubs from mainland Europe, all the best players will keep coming to England. And therefore there will be more money in the PL than in other leagues because of the TV-and sponsordeals that are connected to having the best players/teams in a league. It's just an idea about trying to follow the money. 😉
@JimmyWashingtonII
@JimmyWashingtonII 2 ай бұрын
Golden State Warriors are currently paying a massive luxury tax for overspending the salary cap
@gregoryholmes329
@gregoryholmes329 2 ай бұрын
'when you sell gallagher and need some legs in midfield he'll buy the gardest geezer' is generational chat
@TrevorLink
@TrevorLink 2 ай бұрын
brian using "businessman" when his club and city and chelsea previously have been bought and been paying for their transfers with STATE OIL FUNDS BY OIL STATES. IT IS AGAINST THE INTENT OF THE SPORT. THIS IS A STUPID ARGUMENT TO BRING FORWARD, YOU ARE STATE FUNDED.
@agenttechstreams3891
@agenttechstreams3891 2 ай бұрын
Sky sports said it was out of the question as they need protect Man U Liverpool etc can’t have anyone braking the cartel
@paulstones1451
@paulstones1451 2 ай бұрын
Wouldnt of changed a thing as teams in European competition have to meet ufea ffp rules also, just shows these lot no nowt
@totalprocall6894
@totalprocall6894 2 ай бұрын
The lack of homework done on these city charges is laughable. It's more like 11 charges, intentionally duplicated over X amount of years for the sole purpose of optics. This luxury tax is also a massive legal case waiting to happen...telling a business they cannot spend, on their own business lol, will never stand. NEVER.
@gfh68
@gfh68 2 ай бұрын
Isn’t it only actually 3 charges stacked up? 35 of them are for not complying with the premiere league investigation, 68 are for not providing accurate financial statements and 12 of them are for failure or breaches of ffp regulations and PSR
@mrphish1318
@mrphish1318 2 ай бұрын
Yes so 115 charges if you committed multiple of the same crime that gives you 5 years you don’t just get the five years you get them all added on
@gfh68
@gfh68 2 ай бұрын
@@mrphish1318 the Way finances work each report builds on the previous one which means that city could have just not reported their financial numbers correctly at the start of the investigation (Q3 of 2009) and hence all reports till 2018 are not accurate. Therefore they haven’t committed the same crime multiple time but committed it once and had the ripple effect of it
@mrphish1318
@mrphish1318 2 ай бұрын
@@gfh68 yes so they have incorrectly reported the books multiple times which adds up charges just because there’s a ripple effect doesn’t mean it’s one charge
@gfh68
@gfh68 2 ай бұрын
@@mrphish1318 if they can prove the first time was right or didn’t have en impact on the future financial reports then no they haven’t reported it incorrectly multiple times. If you’re doing a math test and need to solve an equation but the first step you do is wrong but everything else is right you still get the wrong number because of 1 mistake
@Arty2senis
@Arty2senis 2 ай бұрын
For those fans who wants that Luxury tax and their clubs to spend as much as they want, I suggest: *Leave national, UEFA, FIFA tournaments with all your players you want to sigh. *Form Private Superleague and compete with each other.
@srilankanguy8737
@srilankanguy8737 2 ай бұрын
What is brian talking about that nobody knew everton were spending that kind of money?
@edrahimovic
@edrahimovic 2 ай бұрын
Don't understand why there isn't a regulator in the prem...
@lewistaylor7312
@lewistaylor7312 2 ай бұрын
This lineup is too Chelsea heavy. Get rid of Josh and get expressions on!! Him and kg have great chemistry
@yogeshsharma4823
@yogeshsharma4823 2 ай бұрын
Seems the smaller clubs want a shortcut just like City and Chelsea. Don't bring Arsenal, Liverpool and Manchester United into this, they earned this.
@iainwright2301
@iainwright2301 2 ай бұрын
Isak and Guimares were already very well know players when Newcastle bought them. There is a reason each cost over 60 million. Other clubs were in for those players, but Newcastle spent more. I am not saying that they shouldn't have been able to spend, but Brian is being a bit misleading. Guimares in particular had been killing it for Lyon and was on many teams radar.
@taylor-mb6eg
@taylor-mb6eg 2 ай бұрын
Agreed but bruno wasn't 60 mil, he was 40.
@thesampsoninstitute
@thesampsoninstitute 2 ай бұрын
Anyone who has a pulse is worth 40 million these days. Your average fan didn't know much at all about Isak or Bruno, and that my friends, is just facts
@abd9633
@abd9633 2 ай бұрын
wish this show would keep up to date, this system has already been outvoted
@therealhb1763
@therealhb1763 2 ай бұрын
It’s pre recored
@chivachum
@chivachum 2 ай бұрын
So ironic that these lot are always talking about City spending, showing how we’re rent free in their heads.
@danielhartnett60
@danielhartnett60 2 ай бұрын
115
@ltg.03
@ltg.03 2 ай бұрын
It’s because you cheaters but ok pal
@therealhb1763
@therealhb1763 2 ай бұрын
115
@jamesnewstead7099
@jamesnewstead7099 2 ай бұрын
If financial fair play rules were actually enforced and states couldnt own clubs norwich would be top of the leauge
@robertvincent7385
@robertvincent7385 2 ай бұрын
Man Utd need this because ffp means they can’t spend and will fall further behind city Liverpool etc
@pasangafavmsq8728
@pasangafavmsq8728 2 ай бұрын
Arsene wenger must be drinking to sleep right now.😂😂😂😂 2 decades following ffp gone useless.
@AnthonyAzzo
@AnthonyAzzo 2 ай бұрын
This guy is talking about Villa building their team and success around Grealish money., in the context of criticism of City investment. But who did they sell Grealish to 😂😅
@murder13love
@murder13love 2 ай бұрын
Newcastle were priced out of the majority of their targets. The players they did get, they got at inflated prices.
@Samweak
@Samweak 2 ай бұрын
Because they’re a small club that haven’t won anything, why would elite players want to go there, the same as city it’s money. Clubs in the big 6 have such a pull because of heritage and prestige and you can’t buy that.
@murder13love
@murder13love 2 ай бұрын
@@Samweak lol
@daniyalwaliaziz6500
@daniyalwaliaziz6500 2 ай бұрын
welcome to the life of a United fan, 80 Maguire, 90 antony, 72 rasmus, 50 AWB, 50 Martial, 60 Casemiro, 75 Sancho; All those transfers are 35-50% inflated because of The Name Manchester United.
@mrphish1318
@mrphish1318 2 ай бұрын
@@daniyalwaliaziz6500United tax is a thing because United owners are dumb enough to spend more then everyone else
@therealhb1763
@therealhb1763 2 ай бұрын
@@daniyalwaliaziz6500no it because United buy stupid people
@leon1493
@leon1493 2 ай бұрын
I think the market went crazy when Neymar went for 200+ Mil
@Courtney-Jai
@Courtney-Jai 2 ай бұрын
Yeah if this happened i just stop watching football , it wouldnt be a sport anymore
@mfarrar0555
@mfarrar0555 2 ай бұрын
Realistically there is nothing the premier league can do to punish the big 6 cos the clubs r more important than the league they will just leave and form a super league the big 6 will never be punished cos the prem would end without them
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