Ollies turning? Watch this.

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Sarah Park-Matott

Sarah Park-Matott

Күн бұрын

We all know we need to keep our shoulder parallel to the board. And we do! So, why is the ollie still rotating?
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Well, skateboarding is hard, and after analyzing months of footage, I found a few common reasons.
0:00 open vs closed shoulders
0:47 reason one
1:24 tip 1
2:02 reason two + three
2:52 tip 2 + 3
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@lucasimonelli5038
@lucasimonelli5038 2 жыл бұрын
Had the same issue when i was learning to ollie while standing still. Got rid of it by practicing the ollie while moving.
@lZlSHINTANi
@lZlSHINTANi 2 жыл бұрын
THIS is the problem I've been having for since as long as I started about a year ago. It's awesome seeing you make videos like this to address these beginner issues since I feel like there's not a lot of info out there on these very precise problems.
@SarahParkMatott
@SarahParkMatott 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Ayvie-G! I always hope to bring new perspectives to the conversation--address the pain points we go through haha
@richy85
@richy85 Жыл бұрын
This is the most helpful video for this topic! Literally every other video I’ve seen just says to align your shoulders straight, but they never mention foot placement on the nose or chest and posture alignment. 10 out of 10 video. Here’s a cookie 🍪👌
@Tadeu.
@Tadeu. 2 жыл бұрын
I just love when youtubers make videos on the one specific thing I'm having problems with, thank you.
@edbisdee
@edbisdee 2 жыл бұрын
great analysis, Sarah, Thanks!
@user-rr5jy7tj2e
@user-rr5jy7tj2e Жыл бұрын
Thank's! Really helped
@duq8447
@duq8447 2 жыл бұрын
Awsome videos, you explained some things that I couldn't find in other videos, thank you so much
@deieneartiagoitia5530
@deieneartiagoitia5530 Жыл бұрын
Thank you some much for this video Sarah!
@kapibarakapibarovich5804
@kapibarakapibarovich5804 Жыл бұрын
That is an excellent video actually with good analysis. Thank you for your work, and I think no one has such valuable info as your vid has.
@christiancalibo1613
@christiancalibo1613 Жыл бұрын
thanks for the advice
@Manuel-jl5br
@Manuel-jl5br 2 жыл бұрын
the best advice for this moment, thank you, you are the best
@prawnyb
@prawnyb Ай бұрын
Excellent video
@boltunes2771
@boltunes2771 2 жыл бұрын
Great video!
@oratileditlhage571
@oratileditlhage571 Жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot, This is what i've been looking for. heading out to practice already.
@alexgraupaniello
@alexgraupaniello Жыл бұрын
great video! thanks ;)
@half_rat
@half_rat 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you SO much for this video. I was convinced it was all in my shoulders but focusing on that front foot motion has made my ollies so much more consistent!
@SarahParkMatott
@SarahParkMatott 2 жыл бұрын
ahh! I'm so happy to hear that💪
@pxlse7134
@pxlse7134 2 жыл бұрын
Omg this helps so much ily
@ToastGod
@ToastGod Жыл бұрын
After a very frustrating ollie session, this answered pretty much all of my questions! I’ll be sure to be aware of these issues next time I go skate, thank you for making this video ❤
@user-yf2uw5vg8o
@user-yf2uw5vg8o 9 сағат бұрын
Actually sooo helpful
@lomkokpinargasoiltlmm
@lomkokpinargasoiltlmm 7 күн бұрын
Thx for sharing
@tjrysanek9019
@tjrysanek9019 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for making this. So much frustration from feeling like I know the movements but the board still turning.
@nicslo7929
@nicslo7929 Жыл бұрын
Love this I have this problem
@D3V1N3CR34710R
@D3V1N3CR34710R 2 жыл бұрын
good videos, keep it up
@ceppm
@ceppm 2 жыл бұрын
Nice to see you with the Waltz team and the Braille crew! Well done!
@mtbcyclist
@mtbcyclist Жыл бұрын
Wow what a great breakdown! Fantastic video and will help me for sure. Thanks!
@SarahParkMatott
@SarahParkMatott Жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!😃
@senzation01
@senzation01 2 жыл бұрын
Hey! This is very helpful, I have high stationary ollies but low rolling ones and I realized it is indeed the turning and YES! I do millions of ollies yet still barely have an ollie spot.
@Ghetto_Bird
@Ghetto_Bird 2 жыл бұрын
What a great video, thanks a lot for carefully analysing all these details! Keep shredding
@SarahParkMatott
@SarahParkMatott 2 жыл бұрын
ayy thank you! Glad you liked it :D
@jesusrsgn6893
@jesusrsgn6893 2 жыл бұрын
This is exactly the advice I was looking for super helpful keep doing what you’re doing :)
@SarahParkMatott
@SarahParkMatott 2 жыл бұрын
ahh stoked to hear that! 💪
@ShanePullen
@ShanePullen 2 жыл бұрын
100% bang on. I found it out a different way - injured my ankle & couldnt skate, when I got back I had to kick my foot straight out/up when ollieing, any slight side movement hurt the ankle. My ollie's went up a bit and become a lot, lot cleaner. Good video 👏
@cubeboarder7261
@cubeboarder7261 2 жыл бұрын
you are one of my favorite youtubers and i always love your videos. when i get on im always waiting for you or local joe to post a vid. thankyou for making amazing vids
@SarahParkMatott
@SarahParkMatott 2 жыл бұрын
ahh thank you! I'm really glad you've been enjoying the videos so much 😃 I only wish I could post more!
@pb9405
@pb9405 2 жыл бұрын
THIS IS IT. I'm so grateful. I never comment on videos but I came back to this one to thank you! I've been skating regularly for 2 years now and I was advancing pretty fast, but my ollies turned a little which was a problem when I was going faster and it was driving me crazy because I had put in so many hours already in trying to fix it. I always thought it was my shoulders, but my front foot was pulling it back! I've been practicing it for a week now and they are super straight now. THANK. YOU.
@SarahParkMatott
@SarahParkMatott 2 жыл бұрын
ahhh super stoked to hear that! Keep shredding 💪💪
@joannalung3190
@joannalung3190 2 жыл бұрын
This is the first video ive seen that actually explains this specific problem and is helpful. I had this problem a year ago and had to read way too many reddit posts and watch endless videos that only talk ab shoulders to finally narrow it down and kind of try to figure it out. This is gonna be so helpful for others and the quality and depth is 10/10.
@SarahParkMatott
@SarahParkMatott 2 жыл бұрын
ah thank you Joanna! I know it's such a pain point for so many skaters. I also hope it helps a lot of people or at least guides them in a helpful direction 💪
@blahblac_sheep6423
@blahblac_sheep6423 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@VZW_WiFi
@VZW_WiFi Жыл бұрын
I really do appreciate this, I've been struggling with this and after this video I've had massive improvement, thanks so much!
@SarahParkMatott
@SarahParkMatott Жыл бұрын
ah, that's awesome! 🙌
@lizzard13666
@lizzard13666 2 жыл бұрын
I just started having this problem, like a week or two ago! This video is super helpful, thanks for the content!
@SarahParkMatott
@SarahParkMatott 2 жыл бұрын
Happy to hear that :D
@zearmy573
@zearmy573 2 жыл бұрын
This happen to me a lot, thanks for the tips!
@SarahParkMatott
@SarahParkMatott 2 жыл бұрын
Hope they prove helpful 💪
@benjaminthorpe7990
@benjaminthorpe7990 2 жыл бұрын
I bought my first skateboard today to learn this. Thanks for the detailed analysis as it really helps teach some of the mistakes that can happen🙂 super excited to get going!
@SarahParkMatott
@SarahParkMatott 2 жыл бұрын
hope you have fun 😃🙌
@mikehulsebus
@mikehulsebus 2 жыл бұрын
The breakdowns and detail that you can get nowhere else!
@SarahParkMatott
@SarahParkMatott 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Mike 😃😃🙏
@johnmarc1986
@johnmarc1986 Жыл бұрын
This is perfect. Too many videos simply say to ollie with your shoulders parallel and I still manage to turn the board. Looking at my shoe, I now realise I'm using the wrong part of my foot to level out the board.
@ESRohner
@ESRohner Жыл бұрын
This video rocks! I've never found another video pointing out these problems, but I think they're what I'm experiencing. I'm going to try the side perspective video. 🙏⚡
@SarahParkMatott
@SarahParkMatott Жыл бұрын
ah, hope it helps! 🙏
@JJBDude
@JJBDude 2 жыл бұрын
Really good video 🙂
@SarahParkMatott
@SarahParkMatott 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you! :D
@secretwilderness9715
@secretwilderness9715 2 жыл бұрын
I spent the winter working on this very thing (I'm only a bit over a year skating). I took videos of multiple angles and my issues were two-fold. First I had to fix my shoulders. Then I thought my front foot was pulling the board behind me a bit causing the angle. First I moved my front foot with more toe off the board and that made it worse, when I moved more heel off the board, I straightened out A LOT. That's the key part you mention about the shoe spot and the center of the nose! Thanks for another top shelf vid!
@SarahParkMatott
@SarahParkMatott 2 жыл бұрын
It's all about putting in the hard work to find what works 💪 Glad you liked the video :D (That center of the nose bit vs my toe pushing the corner was such a revelation for my own--often heelflipping--ollies. Now to put in the hours it'll take to fix lol).
@gregmoore167
@gregmoore167 Жыл бұрын
I found I straightened my ollies by purposely trying to backside tweek them by about 20-30 degrees, and once I could do that I found I had a lot more control to keep my ollies perfectly straight most of the time, and after I continued to practice my backside tweek ollies to do them nicely to almost 45 degrees! Another bonus was that I could then do backside 180 ollies in 2 different styles: normal, and late...the late being much easier to clear obstacles!
@ANDY22291
@ANDY22291 10 ай бұрын
This was very helpful and you made it with much care - thank you! 🙏🛹
@travistobias
@travistobias 2 жыл бұрын
Sarah I enjoy your detailed descriptions that you share they are very helpful. I am using skateboarding to help my recovery from a severe traumatic brain injury I received in 2018, it is helping me increase the movement and mobility of my left side of my body. Your video's are Wonderful thank you for Sharing.
@SarahParkMatott
@SarahParkMatott 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Travistobias! I'm sorry to hear that you had a traumatic brain injury. But, I'm glad that skateboarding is helping you with movement and mobility. And stoked I can help too 😃 Skateboarding can be an amazing outlet both physically and mentally. Hope you're enjoying it 💪
@DrumberBoy69
@DrumberBoy69 2 жыл бұрын
Great insights! I think many of these points are also important to keep in mind when learning heelflips, as correcting them can help with the problem of heelflips landing behind you. Most advice includes "lean back," "jump backwards," or "put your back foot in the heelside pocket.' While these points may help some, they didn't do much for me. After taking a bunch of slow motion videos and trying different foot positions without much success, I found that my problem was that I was moving my board behind me due to opening up my shoulders after the pop, or doing something weird with my front foot like you described, which caused my board to begin its rotation behind me after I flicked it. Since correcting these problems my heelflip doesn't land behind me unless I jump forward, which is what I'm trying to fix now. It's always something! Anyway, great videos, great progress, keep skating! =D
@SarahParkMatott
@SarahParkMatott 2 жыл бұрын
Totally. The tough thing about making tips is that it's hard to account for everything (especially if it didn't happen to you or you haven't seen it a ton). Back when I attempted to learn heelflips I did need to lean back. That was a big problem. The board didn't go back. My body fell forward lol But with kickflips it rotated mostly due to a shove it I was doing with the back foot. We all end up with these weird things. So, the more information floating around out here the better 💪 (100% it's always something 😂)
@skitzo1048
@skitzo1048 Жыл бұрын
thx for vid I've been having thus issue for a week and it was such a pain
@SarahParkMatott
@SarahParkMatott Жыл бұрын
Ahh hope it helps! 🙏🙏
@mrWhite81
@mrWhite81 9 ай бұрын
My problem aswell ty
@jakeh2034
@jakeh2034 Жыл бұрын
Awesome video. Been my biggest issue. Will give me something more concrete to work towards.
@jakeh2034
@jakeh2034 Жыл бұрын
I think also the straightest ollies I saw from you involve hopping over slightly. Which for me mean I need to not worry about landing "straight ahead" but just "straight in motion", if that makes sense to anyone reading.
@SarahParkMatott
@SarahParkMatott Жыл бұрын
I think so 🤔 really being able to keep your body straight even if it moves here or there?
@Suplado_Glenn
@Suplado_Glenn Жыл бұрын
It’s the same for me. That’s why i watched your video again to fix my ollie. I can ollie and 50-50 also. But when i tried to do ollie mostly like this fs a lil bit sometimes worst. I skate 1yr and 3months now and its hard to fix. Because i learn stationary ollie for along time like 3 months. Before I start rolling ollie.
@anotheryoutuber_
@anotheryoutuber_ 2 жыл бұрын
it is the only trick i want. i know you did a video on the ollie but more slow motion video helps me see what i think i should be feeling. the timing is soooooo hard, but this video definitely helps the little things become more visible. thanks again for your videos. [just another person out here looking for a fluid good looking ollie]
@SarahParkMatott
@SarahParkMatott 2 жыл бұрын
haha yeah, I didn't really have slow motion back when I filmed the original ollie tuts either. It definitely deserves an update sometime :D But with practice, you're well on your way to getting to that fluid, good looking ollie 💪 you got it!
@georgemichaelrules
@georgemichaelrules 2 жыл бұрын
I noticed my friend has this happen during their ollies too but it was because they were doing a slight angle with their back foot during popping that would cause the board to slightly rotate like the tiniest pop shuv. Pushing straight down and kicking straight out is way harder than it looks! Great info as always fam.
@SarahParkMatott
@SarahParkMatott 2 жыл бұрын
Great point! I struggled with that with my kick flips. Not a small accidental shove either 😂 Being able to control our body to do those precise movements is literally the endless battle we're stuck in, huh 😂 But we got it!
@buppie9897
@buppie9897 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you, ive been beating myself up today because I have everything down but keeping it straight, ive hit a few gaps and im very satisfied with the pop and leveling out but it turns like 20 degrees to the right EVERYTIME and I could not figure it out. I'll try some of your tips tomorrow
@SarahParkMatott
@SarahParkMatott 2 жыл бұрын
You got it! The turn is really hard for me to overcome consistently still. But, it's definitely gotten better now that I know what's happening. You got it too 💪
@TomtheMagician21
@TomtheMagician21 Жыл бұрын
Thank you this is my main problem now and I can even ollie while moving but it's hard to fully commit because when I do, I land almost as if I'm doing a powerslide (which I can't do) so my momentum just goes completely into my body 😂. I'll try your tips so thank you
@ethansu003
@ethansu003 2 жыл бұрын
I was just fixing a problem with the board crooked when I was working on Oille today. After watching your video, I'm more certain that it is the problem of the front foot, thank you very much for the shooting.
@SarahParkMatott
@SarahParkMatott 2 жыл бұрын
hope it helps :D
@lodicastillo1212
@lodicastillo1212 Жыл бұрын
🐐
@FickleWid
@FickleWid 2 жыл бұрын
This is the video that did not exist. I spent weeks trying to fix my ollie. I even started counter rotating my shoulders because every tutorial and every person said it's your shoulders. Luckily before being sent off into a frustration meltdown, I decided to ignore this unintentionally "bad" advice (it's still technically good) and started actually analyzing what was going on personally. Started all the way from scratch and had to fix reason 1 and even played around until I realized tip 1 existed at all. A detail about the shoe tip also, this can occur from the motion the ankle rotates with the knee AND leg AND hip rotation. It's difficult, there are three joints and pivot points at play. Ideally, you don't want your hip to be involved because it will open up the leg and likely create a frontside force. Although I agree about the ollie shoe sweet spot, if one feels their body mechanics limit them, try placing your front foot closer to the heel side rail. This will force your toe to align and slide at the center bolts of your board. (If you still have problem one, be careful, you might start doing a half kick flip and land primo) Find the sweet spot that works for you, there are many pro skateboarders that have very different front foot positioning.
@SarahParkMatott
@SarahParkMatott 2 жыл бұрын
Would like to specifically bump the natural mechanics part. Playing with foot positioning is always important because our bodies are different! What works for one will not always work for everyoneo. Thanks FickleWid 🙌
@quimbyquimby5436
@quimbyquimby5436 2 жыл бұрын
I have been wondering for awhile if this was my problem, and it seems that it is. I can keep my shoulders closed all day and still ollie frontside without meaning to. Gonna have to workshop it all out. Really glad you made this video.
@SarahParkMatott
@SarahParkMatott 2 жыл бұрын
It's all about that workshopping! 💪 Glad you liked the video!
@aliryd
@aliryd 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Sarah -- one of the things I find so valuable about your channel is your ability to analyze, make conclusions and develop a method for solving a problem or learning something new. A cool idea for a video could be to share some of your process-- is there a method to reviewing footage? Do you slo mo everything, put video side by side, what are you looking for, how to you notice issues, etc. I film myself a lot but I rarely go through the footage in much detail...
@SarahParkMatott
@SarahParkMatott 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Ali, that's a video I've been trying to make for a long time! I've even written notes on it and did some scripting, just haven't been able to get it out yet. But, I'll definitely put something out when I can :D
@aliryd
@aliryd 2 жыл бұрын
@@SarahParkMatott Very cool! Consider this validation of a great idea :) Looking forward to it!
@gabrielviero
@gabrielviero 2 жыл бұрын
body position can change a lot from people to people, I learned, by studying Luan Olivera's pop tricks that it is okay to have open shoulder, also Neen Williams heelplips is the proof that there's no right way to push the nose(or anything) for a trick. I have very short an wide feet, pushing the nose, even for an ollie, with the proper shoe part is uncomfortable to me, i do it with the "center" of the side. My point is, sometimes your body just feels better doing thing slightly off the normality, all that's left is experimentation and self knowledge development for us to practice. Great video, as always, looking forward for the next one.
@SarahParkMatott
@SarahParkMatott 2 жыл бұрын
I agree. I open my shoulder for kickflips all day. I think it's being aware, building up that control and finding what works for you. The wear on my shoes helps me confirm where I am sliding up, and there is proof in some clips I can level out with almost my toes, but I personally want to use the center. But, it's all about finding what's working for you. Having options to pull from and see what works. 🙌
@imd3695
@imd3695 2 жыл бұрын
Just started skating again today after a couple years off and I found myself turning my Ollies sideways. Thanks for the video, very helpful tips.
@SarahParkMatott
@SarahParkMatott 2 жыл бұрын
Hope they help! welcome back to skating 🙌
@dsplaisted
@dsplaisted 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Sarah, thanks for your videos. Also I saw you on a few Braille videos recently, that's awesome, are you going to tell the story behind that? Question for you: I seem to lose a lot of speed when doing monster walks. Any tips there? I'm not sure if I'm not going fast enough in the first place, or maybe I'm not getting clean 180 degree pivots so I'm losing speed when my wheels scrape. Or maybe it's something else.
@SarahParkMatott
@SarahParkMatott 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Daniel, Mike invited me on that trip to help show off freestyle--was more of a Waltz project. I probably won't talk about Braille, but I'll defintely be talking about the Waltz trip soon! :D I used to slow down a lot too! To get momentum when doing monsterwalks, normally leaning forward slightly and thinking about the rotations as pushing off from the pockets helps me a lot. Not just rotating, but stepping off the pockets to go forward and get that momentum. Like you're running almost. Took a long time to get to that point though! A lot of strengthening of my core as well.
@Lamasalta6245
@Lamasalta6245 11 ай бұрын
After looking at my clips in slow motion i noticed i was pushing backwards but i just gotta keep practicing how to push forward
@BitesTheDusto
@BitesTheDusto Жыл бұрын
I practiced my kickflips for like a month straight and they looked just how I wanted them. After tweaking my ankle i cant kickflip so ive been really dialing in my ollie and Ive been having trouble with turning slightly frontside. And my shoulders werent opening, I was so confused and what you said makes perfect sense, I have kind of been sliding my front foot with my toe like for a kickflip more than with the side of the shoe. Rotating barely on an ollie is the easiest way to end up with a rolled ankle, my ankles are mush
@SarahParkMatott
@SarahParkMatott Жыл бұрын
I think that's exactly what makes ollie so hard. It's the slightest movement--the slightly turn, etc that can really mess them up. So much can affect it. Glad it might be what's affecting your ollie though. Hope that tweaked ankle feels better soon 💪
@VikiFlip
@VikiFlip Жыл бұрын
Good idea to share this. I can give you some suggestions as a skateboarder and as a physician. What involves movement are many variables . The less considered are the anatomical ones. When I was a teen skateboarders in the 90's I didn't have idea. Here are the facts. The axis of the the femur and tibia may vary among individuals and so the basic spine posture, ligaments and range of motion. This can influence how you see the foot placed on your board. Female practitioners generally have different angles from the male ones. Think of Rodney Mullen. He say he has inward toes (and it looks like so). He has a peculiar style. He is one of my favorite pro skater. So I wouldn't worry about where the shoes get worn. Go for the result. The position of the foot is just the tip of the iceberg. What you say about shoulder and lining forward with the trunk is true. The 'open shoulder' are contracted rotational muscles of the thoracic spine that unwind when the feet start to leave the ground. Leaning displace the center of gravity. Our skull is an important leverage. Where we are looking at helps or no to set our center of gravity. We should be able to bend on our knees loose and with the best posture possible. I hope it helps. I tried to make it as simple as possible :)
@whoknowsanymore4761
@whoknowsanymore4761 Жыл бұрын
I had this issue when I was a young teen learning. I'm way older now and my 11yr old has just started and asked me if I'd re-learn to skate while he learns himself. So I'm back to ollies all over again and would you believe it this problem. Thanks for the vid I'll put it into practice later on to straighten them up. My son popped his 1st ollie today too, only about 1 to 2 inch but I'm super proud 👏😁
@SarahParkMatott
@SarahParkMatott Жыл бұрын
that's awesome! 😃 Welcome (back) to skating to both of you! Such a fun hobby to share 🙌
@luiszuniga8005
@luiszuniga8005 2 жыл бұрын
I definitely see my issue here, i have literally everything down but landing my board seems to turn at the end and hopefully this will help lol
@SarahParkMatott
@SarahParkMatott 2 жыл бұрын
ahh I hope so 🙌
@bermchasin
@bermchasin Жыл бұрын
yo! my ollie be turning so much I basically do a backside 180
@ballpaul
@ballpaul 2 жыл бұрын
Sarah is detail-minded :) I also don't use the common ollie spot to drag the board. Bad habit is developed. I feel it's more comfortable for me. Hope I can work around it. It is soooo damn difficult to drag the nose to bring up the tail. I know what to do but can't control my stupid feet 😤
@SarahParkMatott
@SarahParkMatott 2 жыл бұрын
Like we saw in the clips though, I could ollie straight with the toe 😂 I just don't want to forever. You got it your way 💪
@nextlvlroy
@nextlvlroy 9 ай бұрын
Interesting. Trying to get into skateboarding again to conquer the ollie. My shoes also have that same spot in the same area, which is where the pinky toe is rather than at the side. I also noticed that it's my back foot that also contributes to turning. Reason I say it's my back foot is because when I step off my back foot for my ollie they get height and are straight-ish. If I include the back foot for a full land i end up turning. Have you ever had the back foot also contribute to turning ollies? I'd like to hear others' experiences.
@nathanwilliams9695
@nathanwilliams9695 2 жыл бұрын
What’s going on Sarah? I ollied off a step today and got chicken foot like usual but landed it without touching ground. But the strange thing is it felt rough and skew wiff when I rolled away. Instead of smoothly rolling away I was so unaccustomed because of chicken foot that rolling felt strange and rough!! But that’s progress actually micro step by micro step. Aha great 👍 Thankyou
@SarahParkMatott
@SarahParkMatott 2 жыл бұрын
You bet it is! I know "failing" to do a trick can be tough, but it's exactly every miss that brings us that much closer to getting it. So, keep missing it Nathan! You'll get it soon 💪 Stoked to hear from you when you get it.
@Will_RodU
@Will_RodU 2 ай бұрын
This is a fantastic video, been practicing stationary ollies and have this exact problem. I'll start working on these suggestions!! 🤟🏼👊🏼🛹 One thing I'm confused about but also find fascinating is that when you are doing stationary ollies you land in front of where you started, even when they look to be straight. So either the board is turning backside a bit and then you are bringing the tail up front to compensate and land parallel to where you started, or, you are moving the board in front of you while coming back down. Hard to tell how that is actually happening, it makes sense to land in front for shuvs and other tricks but not as logical to me on an ollie. Maybe you do have some idea of how that happens 🙃
@SarahParkMatott
@SarahParkMatott 2 ай бұрын
haha I do. It actually happens pretty naturally when I lean forward--toeside too much. Especially back when I filmed this, I either leaned too forward, or I landed very heel heavy and stepped back or tic tacked back. The lean forward encourages the body to jump forward a bit and the board follows if it sticks to your feet (i.e. if you have good contact). You can slip right off and jump without it too though 😂 this at least is my experience and interpretation of what's happening.
@Will_RodU
@Will_RodU 2 ай бұрын
@@SarahParkMatott hi Sarah! Thank you so much for the reply!!! ❤️ The leaning forward definitely makes sense. I think that my first thought kind of makes sense too then, if your front foot is coming up first when you jump, it should be coming forward first too. Then your back foot is following and catching up, it would just happen too quickly to notice I guess. When I ollie, most of the time my nose does land about the same place it started and my tail lands a bit in front, so I turn FS about 15 degrees or so... maybe leaning forward a bit more on my front foot can help compensate 😊😁 Thank you so much!!! 🛹😆
@dorifish3005
@dorifish3005 Жыл бұрын
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@bajjzel
@bajjzel 2 жыл бұрын
One reason for this to happen is staying behind the board instead of jumping forward. If you are feeling your board is in front of you then natural way to compensate that is to turn your board that will somehow drag it back under you. This is why this hardly happens when you jump over something unless you are affraid to jump forward. If this is the case you will most likely have to jump off the board straight after landing.
@bobbyboardman246
@bobbyboardman246 2 жыл бұрын
i hope i can get my ollies better
@SarahParkMatott
@SarahParkMatott 2 жыл бұрын
You got it 💪
@RawMediaArchive
@RawMediaArchive 11 ай бұрын
i have great ollies but the my tail keeps turning midair so i land rolling at an angle. i know for a fact my shoulders are straight and ive asked friends but they don’t know why either please help
@SarahParkMatott
@SarahParkMatott 11 ай бұрын
feel free to send a video to my instagram. If I can see anything, I am always happy to look.
@sickha4755
@sickha4755 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video, watching your video I also thought it was a shoulder problem, but when I saw your movement, I realized that shoulder problem is not so important, when your front foot is in a hurry to fall, the Angle of your hip bone determines the landing Angle of your skateboard.just check it..
@SarahParkMatott
@SarahParkMatott 2 жыл бұрын
💯 the feet, knees and hips are all connected 🙌
@FirinMahLazer1
@FirinMahLazer1 6 ай бұрын
Bummer. I think you outlined some similar problems I have especially in regards to my feet being the problem and not my shoulders. But I have some hardware in my left ankle and it affects my mobility I'm not sure if I'll ever be able to get an Ollie down correctly
@SarahParkMatott
@SarahParkMatott 6 ай бұрын
I wouldn't lose hope! Sometimes we just need to find ways to work with our bodies 💪 and that might be a little different than what others are doing--or require some more patience. Hang in there 🙌
@slotherus
@slotherus 2 жыл бұрын
Think my mistake is leaning forward. Got like 45+ degree turning... will check it next days
@ellen879
@ellen879 5 ай бұрын
I noticed i Turn my shoulders Like you but whennim doing ollie Standing it isnt really a Problem, but when im trying to doing rolling ollie i think it makes it Harder for me to Push the Board Forward, because i kinda kick the Board Back
@SarahParkMatott
@SarahParkMatott 5 ай бұрын
That's an interesting observation! It'd be interesting to see if there was an actual difference in form somewhere between the two causing it. I think "open shoulders" is often an easy thing to point to even though there are a bunch of factors that can twist a board--or like...it's not always that shoulders are turned, but that our core/hips are twisting slightly back and forth or just back. Hope that you can find what's happening though!
@RikRiorik
@RikRiorik 2 жыл бұрын
I found my main fix maybe 9-10 months ago. I found in main I was jumping slightly backwards. As soon as I really concentrated on that straight up jump my ollie straightness improved a lot. But it’s a neverending process. It’s never good enough.
@SeeSawMassacre
@SeeSawMassacre 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, ollies are really hard. I've got a list of tips i'm always telling myself in my head, but rarely do i get one that feels just right. I think most of it is balance. But the short list of tips that work best for me now are: pop hard, then relax; leap forward a bit; and stay low (with bent knees).
@RikRiorik
@RikRiorik 2 жыл бұрын
@@SeeSawMassacre it can be a bit hit and miss no doubt. It’s not easy to make an ollie almost second nature. I still revert to old habits when going at uncomfortable speeds or trying something I’m not sure I can land. But it’s a foundatinal trick and well worth the practice.
@lugustavoguadalupe
@lugustavoguadalupe 2 жыл бұрын
12k!!! Yeah!! Congrats :) By the way, I just found the "Skate like a girl" KZbin channel, have you ever watched? They have great tutorial videos and an amazing approach on human diversity.
@SarahParkMatott
@SarahParkMatott 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Luis! Thank you! :D I follow them on instagram, but I didn't realize they had a youtube channel. I'll have to check it out.
@kennylam3028
@kennylam3028 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Sarah , from Hong Kong & Glory to Ukraine 🇺🇦
@cxrrt
@cxrrt 2 жыл бұрын
I would listen to Sarah ASMR
@jpizzleforizzle
@jpizzleforizzle Жыл бұрын
This is a HUGE problem for me. My ollie's always rotate front side even when my shoulders stay aligned. I figured out it's because my hips, lower legs, and feet are turned outward quite a bit, likely something related to being born premature, bone structure. All this along with a front ankle that only has about 60% of normal range of motion from a fracture when I was really young... Makes for keeping ollie's straight a real pain in the a$$ for me. Side benefit: doing a fs 180 is pretty easy.
@SarahParkMatott
@SarahParkMatott Жыл бұрын
It's awesome to realize that though! To hopefully either find a way to adjust to our natural bodies or just keep going with it. I'm all for finding ways to skate with our bodies instead of against them 😃 Since filming this, I also realized a lot of skaters will over compensate with hip rotation to keep the shoulders straight while getting that level out! Wish I could have added it here 🥸
@seanpaulson9098
@seanpaulson9098 Жыл бұрын
I started skateboarding again after 10 years and have been snowboarding this whole time so I think the twisting and body movements of snowboarding have really messed up my Ollie's
@SarahParkMatott
@SarahParkMatott Жыл бұрын
oof that's definitely possible. After filming this video, I saw a lot more clips and noticed a lot of skaters and sometimes myself getting turns because the hips and shoulders will rotate back and forth during the jump. Especially by accident when trying to get a more powerful jump and pop. I could see how the snowboarding muscle memory might be something to consider while working on these! Interesting to think about though 😃
@petehurd5301
@petehurd5301 2 жыл бұрын
"the path to a beautiful ollie is a long and winding one" :)
@SarahParkMatott
@SarahParkMatott 2 жыл бұрын
🙌
@petehurd5301
@petehurd5301 2 жыл бұрын
@@SarahParkMatott something about the journey being more important than the destination...
@leeshin6574
@leeshin6574 2 жыл бұрын
I can almost barely ollie. When i do tricks at home i can do shuv-its pop shuv-it a wack ass ollie. And im learning old school kickflip. But as SOON as i step at im so bad. I can barely do shuv its
@SarahParkMatott
@SarahParkMatott 2 жыл бұрын
it takes a long time 😭 even the environment affects my tricks. I skate around a lot more now, and it's helped a ton with all of my tricks though
@nathanwilliams9695
@nathanwilliams9695 2 жыл бұрын
It takes tears to Ollie bring on Kyro v Hawk in a game of skate
@SarahParkMatott
@SarahParkMatott 2 жыл бұрын
haha it really does take tears 😂
@thirteenbanger7861
@thirteenbanger7861 Жыл бұрын
Bro I can’t crack this problem. I feel like it could be foot placement. I recorded myself in slo-mo and my shoulders are 100% straight, even if I hold onto a fence so that they can’t rotate my board still goes frontside 90. But in slo-mo it looks like my front foot is sliding up and turning the board front side. I’ve played around with foot placement but to no avail. Idk what to do
@SarahParkMatott
@SarahParkMatott Жыл бұрын
Unfortunately, even with the shoulders straight, I’ve seen a lot of peoples hips cause rotations too(as a side note). But if you think it’s the front foot what do you think is the issue. Is the front foot turning like mine did? Where you really need to keep it straight. Or what do you see?
@thirteenbanger7861
@thirteenbanger7861 Жыл бұрын
@@SarahParkMatott It’s hard to tell because it’s so subtle but it doesn’t turn until my front foot reaches the nose and it looks like my front foot is turning from the ankle to the left (I’m regular footed) causing the board to turn frontside while my body stays straight. I’ve tried to focus keeping my foot straight but it’s like it is now so engrained in my muscle memory it will take a lot of work.
@thirteenbanger7861
@thirteenbanger7861 Жыл бұрын
@@SarahParkMatott I really want to get this resolved so I can move on to other tricks because my ollie pops high and levels out great and I can do them riding just this turn makes it almost impossible to use them for anything because I land 90 degrees frontside causing my board to stop so I can’t roll away
@SarahParkMatott
@SarahParkMatott Жыл бұрын
@@thirteenbanger7861 The ankle turn is landing 90 degrees? That's a really big turn. But you're right. I can't see it, so I'm not sure. But if you're turning at the ankle, you do need to retrain your muscle memory. I'd take a few session to focus on just that. Keeping the foot straight. In fact, that's what I did, since I had that issue myself. But 90 degrees seems like a really powerful rotation, it's probably also worth looking a little closer at the hips and shoulders to see if there is any back and forth movement. I know that some skaters with really powerful pops followed by large frontside turns have a little bit of hip rotation result from putting that strength into the pop. You can get extra popping force from rotating the hips back and forth (frontside to backside), but your shoulders look like they stay straight the whole time. It's very subtle.
@thirteenbanger7861
@thirteenbanger7861 Жыл бұрын
@@SarahParkMatott I never thought about that. It makes sense because the harder I pop and higher I go the more it turns. So my smaller ones turn less than when I go for more pop. Thanks I’ll look out for the hips. Maybe just have a session focusing on smaller pops and better form to retrain my front foot. Thanks a ton 👍🏼
@praveenm5723
@praveenm5723 2 жыл бұрын
While rolling my pop for an ollie is very low any suggestions to improve??
@panaroyal
@panaroyal 2 жыл бұрын
did you try moving the front foot a little bit to the center? it's easier to pop in that position.
@praveenm5723
@praveenm5723 2 жыл бұрын
@@panaroyal yes i have tried
@panaroyal
@panaroyal 2 жыл бұрын
@@praveenm5723 if it only happens when rolling it usually just confidence issue it will improve with more time spent riding and when rolling ollie stop looking at the board and try to look at where your going to land. if it happens stationary pop and lvl out the ollie(no rocket ollie) practice tricks like no comply or manual to build the muscle for a good pop and check out sarah tutorial for stationary ollie they are spot on👍
@panaroyal
@panaroyal 2 жыл бұрын
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@SarahParkMatott
@SarahParkMatott 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Praveen! If your stationary ollie is good, but the rolling ollie is having problems, I would look for 3 things. 1. Look to see if you're pushing the tail back and not down. I struggled with that a lot and talked about it in my tutorials for rolling ollies. And 2. Try and do some harder pushes forward with the front foot. I found it takes more strength to push the nose forward when rolling than when stationary which can leave the back trucks low to the ground. And then 3. Check to see if you're lifting the back foot up high enough to let the pop come up! If it's not those three things, feel free to send me a dm of the ollie and we can look at it. 😊
@robertolopez2282
@robertolopez2282 Жыл бұрын
Damn my ollie off a curb turn like 80 degrees
@SarahParkMatott
@SarahParkMatott Жыл бұрын
Ahh feel for you. Mine turned down stuff too for a while 🤦‍♀️ I haven’t ollied down something in a long time tho…🤔
@panaroyal
@panaroyal 2 жыл бұрын
i notice that your ollie is straight when you jump Infront like trying to get into a 50-50 grind🤔
@SarahParkMatott
@SarahParkMatott 2 жыл бұрын
yeah! It's almost a little easier because I can nudge the front foot straighter/more forward instead of back I think 🤔
@planetb1ue168
@planetb1ue168 2 жыл бұрын
Whenever I try to ollie I slam my tail, then do 50% of a shove it. I dont understand what causes this for me
@SarahParkMatott
@SarahParkMatott 2 жыл бұрын
You might be popping at an angle and not straight down. I had this issue for kickflips. I would either pop angled back towards the tail and the board would rotate (especially as my front foot hit the nose--it would bounce off that foot), or I was actually doing a tiny shove it and didn't realize it. If you're leaning too far forward over your toes when you ollie, it might be encouraging the back foot to do a shove it. But, it's hard to know without seeing it. You really need to take videos and analyze it frame by frame to look for causes.
@senzation01
@senzation01 2 жыл бұрын
Why do you have screws at the end of the nose?
@thundernixon
@thundernixon 2 жыл бұрын
It’s a freestyle board with skid plates attached! I think it’s a Waltz board.
@SarahParkMatott
@SarahParkMatott 2 жыл бұрын
Yep! Stephen is right (about both. It is the Waltz bixby board). The skid plates (plastic pieces) on the bottom are screwed into the nose and tail. They are commonly used in freestyle. Protect the nose and tail for freestyle specific tricks :D
@senzation01
@senzation01 2 жыл бұрын
@@SarahParkMatott but doesnt it make ollies harder?
@SarahParkMatott
@SarahParkMatott 2 жыл бұрын
@@senzation01 not really 😂 the flatness of the kicks affects the ollie a lot more. The plastic is pretty bouncy. I actually made a video about this. “Can you ollie with skid plates.” Lol
@scizophrenic2602
@scizophrenic2602 11 ай бұрын
yeah i think its cuz our brain is wired to walk forward with 2 parallel legs and has to be retrained to do stuff sideways. the human mind is a very strange thing.
@grimreapybones2875
@grimreapybones2875 2 ай бұрын
This video did not help in the fucking slightest
@scrollmadnessmedia
@scrollmadnessmedia 2 жыл бұрын
I love this essay on this familiar issues I had as well. What I would do to keep the board steady was learning to jump higher for a bone ollie: the front foot kick could just guide the nose better and the backfoot bend squeeze could keep the board closer to my chest. The higher you ollie the harder is to learn but the more control you get. The lower you ollie the more effort it requires to guide with your feet, without the help of your hips. Same thing applies for other tricks such as the kickflip: a low kickflip, at the beginning, with a just little flick would result in a rocket kickflip and completely out of control. Eventually as you learn to extend your leg longer and lift up your backfoot higher you get absolute control because you keep the board close to yourself. In conclusion, focus learning more in jumping higher than perfecting your feet position while still jumping lower. The moment you get a higher ollie your body will automatically keep it steady, because you assist the movement with your hips too and not just with your feet only. 🫵🏻
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