HOW DO WE REMOVE CERAMIC COATINGS? The mother of all chemical resistance tests!!

[@PanTheOrganizer]

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[@michaelmorell7451]

It is just a wierd one. If I had your Gmail I would upload a pic.

[@dondellebanks7055]

Mi l0 m

[@danmorrissette4814]

Cut to the Chase~! Buff it off~! lol~!! video shows how resistant ceramic coating can be~! if you want to remove, you decon first then Attack it with polisher~!

[@JaredFMansfield]

Thank you. This was painful when you’re just looking for a solution to remove the shit.

[@bobbyj3245]

Lol exactly. This is way too much drama.

[@paintwhisperer]

Yeah I would of just buffed it. It gives off a weird sweet smell as it’s getting burned off Such a slog just to hear something I already knew. Unfortunate

[@CSJiGSaW08]

What if you have matte PPF??

[@ShainaReed30]

I think most people know you just polish it off for paint, but I actually found this is good video for textured trim, matte paint, and protection films. This was helpful to for me cause I needed to remove a messed up coating on exterior trim on a Jeep.

[@archiepezek]

You said a long time ago that the only way to remove a ceramic coating was to polish it away and I remembered that coming into the video. Thanks for your work.

[@PanTheOrganizer]

It shows that you listen to my videos! That's good. :)

[@KonstaNykanen]

Holy cow! I've been waiting for a new video this entire week but I didn't see this one coming😱 Pan, I gotta tell you this was one serious torture test, I have never seen anyone do this kind of test on KZbin! Awesome entertainment, see you on the next one👋🏻

[@PanTheOrganizer]

Thanks Konsta!

[@TiFiber]

I completely and rather easily removed my 2.5+ year old CarPro CQuartUK coating with a clay mitt and P&S Wheel cleaner and went back to sealants and it came out great. Thanks for another great video, cheers.

[@PanTheOrganizer]

Thanks!

[@georgiosmitru666]

Thanks Pan for giving an actual clear answer to the question! A lot of detailers leave us with more questions than answers in the end of their videos. If you can answer me question I will really appreciate it. Does an old wax that has remained on the car for 3-4 months needs to be removed with some process before you apply a new wax? They say that when you apply a second coat of wax you also remove the old one, so my understanding is I can wax my car every month if I wanted without using any process like special shampoos that claim this result. I also was very proud when I found out that you are Greek!

[@PanTheOrganizer]

For waxes you don’t have to remove the previous coat. You just layer.

[@todtalk3912]

If you want to remove the old wax, there are what is called strip washes which help break down those waxes and sealants, they wouldn't do anything on this paint, and then when your rinsing car, keep an eye what it looked like when you did your pre rinse and see what it looks like after you strip wash to guage where your at. Also, you need to use only the strip wash because a lot of washes now have some sort of protection built into them, so if your looking to remove the old wax remember you dont wanna add new wax, even goes for clay bar, if your using a detail spray (which all clay lubes are basically a detail spray, you can do this on the cheap with many products, you might wanna re wash the vehicle again with the strip wash and be certain none of the detail spray adhered to the paint.

[@brianhickey5949]

I think these coatings are great! I only found one thing (by accident) that can damage a coating - wheel and tire cleaner (strong commercial grade). I inadvertently splashed some on my own coated vehicle and found it an hour later. There were dull spots on the finish that I couldn't remove chemically. I went to the compound and pad to remove the coating mechanically and re-applied. Thank you for the realistic demonstration :) I think dwell time is a big factor - longer dwell more reduction in coating function.

[@PanTheOrganizer]

Dwell time has zero effect on coatings like Opti-Coat Pro+. Thanks for watching!

[@rafibenjaro2295]

@@PanTheOrganizer would you say that is also the case for CQuartz UK 3.0 coming to dwell time?

[@LJfootball14]

Forensic Detailing Channel did a video on this which proved to a lot of guys of what all does NOT remove it.

[@sabrina6499]

I am almost positive I’ll never actually do this to our vehicles but I really just watched this fully enthralled the whole video. Very informative! Thank you!

[@PanTheOrganizer]

Thank you Sabrina for the kind words! How did you discover my channel by the way? Happy new year!

[@sabrina6499]

@@PanTheOrganizer Happy New Year to you too! I follow quite a few auto detailing channels, and this video popped up as recommended when I opened my app tonight and I’m not disappointed 😊

[@PanTheOrganizer]

Sweet! You found one of the biggest and fastest growing detailing channels on KZbin as we’re approaching 600,000 subscribers and have surpassed 65 million views. I have been detailing cars for over 23 years now and I love sharing my passion and knowledge with my viewers. You’ll have over 500 videos so far on my channel with new ones added at least once weekly, typically on Saturday mornings at 8am EST. Tons of awesome content coming your way so stay tuned. What country are you watching from? Cheers from Canada 🇨🇦!

[@sabrina6499]

@@PanTheOrganizer Yes, I definitely subscribed after this video 😊 I’m from the USA 🇺🇸 I look forward to your upcoming videos!

[@PanTheOrganizer]

Well since you subscribed, let me officially welcome you to the Pan The Organizer family! :)

[@batvon39]

Other KZbin detailers: So today we'll be doing some torture tests on a test panel Pan's BMW: a WHAT

[@PanTheOrganizer]

Ahahahahah!!!! Good one Alvin!

[@vanditm6021]

One needs lots of courage to do and show this on own car, only you can do this pan... most premium car , most premium coating and largest heart to do this. But you love your audience and subscribers. Those are more important than your car. No one does that..... lots of love...

[@PanTheOrganizer]

Thanks for the awesome feedback Vandit! 🙏🏻

[@216baja]

Great video Pan! I do have a question though, do you think that leaving the products sitting on the paint longer, that it would have accelerated the breakdown?

[@PanTheOrganizer]

Thanks Paul! A longer dwell time has no effect on a coating like Opti-Coat Pro+ so it doesn't change anything.

[@brasileiroadulto]

Good afternoon, Pan. Excellent video! Some conclusions that can be made based on the experiment: 1) The ceramic coating is resistant to several automotive cleaning products; 2) The "Carpro" products that were tested proved to be safe on surfaces with ceramic coating; 3) The water repellent properties improve with a ferrous, organic washing and decontamination process and removal of acid rain stains or water stains; 4) Compounds with a more acidic or alkaline pH can interfere with the water repellency of the ceramic coating. It is suggested that other methods are necessary to remove the ceramic coating, in this case, mechanical processes. Thank you very much for the video, Pan. It was very brave to test the products on this beautiful BMW!

[@PanTheOrganizer]

Thanks Waston! And it shows that you listen. Your conclusions are all correct. 👍🏻

[@christophenguyen5340]

Hi Pan, great conclusion. With mechanical action...how do you know when to stop polishing before damaging the original outter paint layer ?

[@xianreiss]

Do a test panel and do a little at a time. You are trying to save your clear coat.

[@peter_ry]

After buying the graphene coating I was a little scared to think that you would be able to take the coating off with chemicals because that was the main reason for my buying it. Happy to find out my fears were unfounded. Great video as always

[@vamanoz5968]

Great video Pan, the only suggestion I have is to clarify the difference between “PRO GRADE” vs “PROSUMER GRADE” coatings and how to remove them because most pro grades like crystal serum ultra, opticoat etc need to be wet sanded since polishing will not completely remove them with polishing alone like it will on a prosumer grade product.

[@PanTheOrganizer]

Great point! Well said.

[@CMS069]

​@@PanTheOrganizer Pan, I put turtle wax hybrid ceramic spray On my hood ,new truck But didn't Decontaminate first because I didn't know better..... How can I remove the Ceramic spray wax so that I can do things properly. thank you again.

[@lordmaximus]

Thank you Pan! I have always wondered how long the coatings would last and what they could repel. A few of my cars have had professional ceramic coatings applied and lost some of the hydrophobic properties overtime, so I though the coating was gone. I am pretty sure it was due to my bad maintenance wash habits and not the coatings. those bad wash habits have no changed due to your videos! Thank you!

[@PanTheOrganizer]

Glad to help! And you are right. A good maintenance regimen is key. At least once every two or three months, once should do a good wash, possibly use a tar and iron remover, and finish with a coat of silica spray sealant to replenish the coating and ensure maximum durability and keep its properties top notch.

[@jeffc6832]

It must be time to turn in that lease and get a new one? I wasn't surprised by this result at all. I've heard that Pro Plus basically needs to be wet sanded to be removed fully.

[@PanTheOrganizer]

Yeah I’m getting a brand new car this summer. Stay tuned, it will be awesome!

[@jeffc6832]

@@PanTheOrganizer looking forward to it!

[@PanTheOrganizer]

😁

[@rickm0208]

@@PanTheOrganizer usually people like us have no problem selling or trading in our vehicles, more often than not I get, "let me know if you ever want to sell it" from friends and neighbors.

[@larrys2554]

@@PanTheOrganizer what are you going to put on the new car?

[@yveslanglois6262]

Très éloquent comme démonstration. Étant ingénieur en métallurgie, spécialité aciérage, donc habitué à jongler avec les matériaux réfractaires (silice, alumine, alumine graphitée, dolomie…) je connaissais la réponse dès le début de la vidéo : « abrasion mécanique avec un compound plus dur que la silice ». La silice étant l’une des céramiques les moins dures sur le marché, tout compound devrait pouvoir faire l’affaire. Deux choses m’ont cependant étonnés: 1. la qualité exceptionnelle du revêtement céramique, je ne suis pas certain que je réussirais à obtenir une telle uniformité, c’est pourquoi je confie mon auto à un professionnel pour l’application céramique 2. l’auto-correction de la surface après 1 semaine, ce qui est vraiment étonnant!!!! Bravo pour tes vidéos, je confesse que je vais voir ailleurs à l’occasion mais tu es de loin le meilleur.

[@PanTheOrganizer]

Merci Yves!

[@volvo09]

These ceramic coatings just blow me away... crazy durability.

[@PanTheOrganizer]

Yup!

[@rafa_pinheiro]

I always wanted to know how to remove it from paint. They always talk about how durable it is, but never how to remove it when the time comes. Thanks a lot 😁 Btw, nice channel. I came from KZbin recommendations and now I’m subscribed

[@PanTheOrganizer]

Thanks Rafael! Since you subscribed to my channel, let me officially welcome you to the Pan The Organizer family! What’s your favourite video on my channel so far?

[@paulanderson4764]

Excellent vid, Pan! Thank you. My only comment is...how can you tell how effective EACH chemical is i.e. did the previous 7 chemicals degrade the coating so #8 seemed somewhat effective? I would've liked to see 8 separated test sections each working by themselves on the original coating thickness.

[@JMD215]

Im with you, also the chemicals werent left to dwell for any amount of time which could play a factor also

[@cadmando18]

That was a great video! I just applied a Ceramic coating last weekend 7/17/21 and so far I love it. It is a Chemical Guys product called Carbon Force. It was very easy to apply, and seems to be forgiving for a "pro level" coating. You're right about the removal, it's really only an abrasive that is effective. I overlapped on a window by accident and didn't see it until it set up. I had to use a heavy cut medium on the glass to remove the smudge of Ceramic Coating. Thank you so much for taking the time to create these videos. I learn so much.

[@PanTheOrganizer]

My pleasure Allen! Good to know that my viewers are taking care of their vehicles. More and more people now are ceramic coating their vehicles thanks to my videos and tutorials, so that's awesome!

[@cadmando18]

@@PanTheOrganizer Would love to know what you think of the Chemical Guys product if you haven't already tested it. Cheers!

[@PanTheOrganizer]

We did test it in a crazy battle video here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/fKLCiZh_Z52JqdE

[@cadmando18]

@@PanTheOrganizer Yes! Thank you so much!!

[@ltcolvenom8295]

Great video Pan! I would like to see a tutorial on removing ceramic spray wax and/or coating using the polisher.

[@PanTheOrganizer]

Great suggestion!

[@IVAN2233]

@@PanTheOrganizer did you end up making this video?

[@TheNightmare692009]

I remember when Yvan Lacroix installed your coating. He said that Opticoat's coating resists all chemicals throughout the entire pH scale. If this was my car with 2 coats of Cquarts, the acid based wheel cleaner would have definitely taken it off if mixed strong enough.

[@PanTheOrganizer]

Yeah the Opti-Coat Pro+ has a claimed durability of pH 0-14. Not all coatings have the same chemical resistance, although all of them greatly surpass waxes and sealants. CarPro CQuartz UK 3.0 has a resistance of pH 3 ~14.

[@404notfound.....]

Great video my friend, definitely a testament to the coating on how well it held up.

[@PanTheOrganizer]

Thanks!

[@sban1985]

@@PanTheOrganizer Would you still reapply the opticoat pro+ or go with a different ceramic coating?

[@scottbarnwell512]

I knew the answer before watching the video, but I was shocked that you did this to your professionally coated vehicle as I was expecting it to be on a prosumer coating at end of life (e.g. wife's vehicle). I'm very impressed that the coating self healed. If it were my vehicle, I would've panicked and broke out the Opti-Seal and never known about the self-healing.

[@PanTheOrganizer]

Thanks for watching Scott!

[@mklein345]

Pan. Can you comment on removing a ceramic coating that has been applied to paint protection film. My thanks.

[@fuckyourfeelings2741]

Just remove the film

[@ayadkashmoola5377]

I did research and i will use gyeon ppf cleaner with white rupes polishing pad

[@michelclairoux8189]

I used CarPro CQQuartz on 3 cars and AvalonKing on one as ceramic protection. Two products you have recommended. AvalonKing was cheaper because of your help. AvalonKing seems to me a little easier to apply , flashing time was a little quicker and buffing was very easy. I am very please with CQQuartz after 10 months. AvalonKing was apply just recently, so I am reserving my judment. Thank you for sound advices.

[@PanTheOrganizer]

Thanks for sharing and thanks for the trust you place in my opinion Michel. :)

[@achillessantos9101]

Pan, thank you. What do you recommend as compound remover product then in order to remove old ceramic coating?

[@PanTheOrganizer]

Pretty much any quality compound or polish will do. I have highlighted my favourites in this popular video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/aHunp4R4qJapn68

[@Ozzcaddy]

G'day Pan, I have now caught up with your videos. I'm glad it was your car and not mine that you did this chemical test on, as we both have the same ceramic coating (2 years old as well in Feb). The first few chemical tests was basically doing a chemical decontamination which was why the coating came back to its original form. Nice to know the coating can withstand a beating of chemicals, knowing this would not happen in reality. I finally got to chemically decontaminate my car and I used the Optimum Power Clean tip you mentioned before foaming the car, worked a treat. The decontamination brought back the hydrophobic properties like new, as did yours. I finished it with Turtle Wax Seal & Shine(new formula) as a topper. Compliments keep coming from neighbors. Thoroughly enjoyed the torture test. Ozz

[@PanTheOrganizer]

Thanks Ozz! Did you see my one year Opti-Coat Pro+ update video where I followed the yearly maintenance recommendations from Dr Ghodoussi (owner and chemist of Opti-Coat) And ex Vice President of Optimum Yvan Lacroix? Here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/q5WXqHqXoNqGjdU

[@simondick76]

Totally surprised that the ceramic coating survived throughout all those tests. Another interesting and entertaining video! 👍🏼

[@PanTheOrganizer]

Thanks! Yeah Opti-Coat Pro+ can resist chemicals in the entire pH range. pH 0-14. I have a video where we applied it here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/eZDLk2uGgrVmgaM

[@vicalsi1568]

I have been checking all week for a new video from you my friend 😂. Sorry this IS my favorite detail channel. Hi from North Carolina, 🇺🇸

[@PanTheOrganizer]

🙏🏻👍🏻

[@antonyv8171]

0:11 “who do you remove a ceramic coating?”.. hahaha how did u miss that one Pan!

[@PanTheOrganizer]

Hahaha the beauty of filming and editing. I rarely make mistakes, but in the end, I am still human haha. I hope you enjoyed the video!

[@Jeff1960G]

Pan = Crazy, could have picked up a test hood at a bone yard for $50 but instead, he chose to use his very expensive BWB to prove a point. This guy is the "real deal" folks when it comes to car detailing!!!

[@PanTheOrganizer]

Hehe thanks Jeff!

[@sharpjay3017]

Take a shot everytime Pan says ''tight'' or ''fantastic''

[@PanTheOrganizer]

You would be in an alcohol induced coma! Ahahah

[@Ajlyu]

in the hospital with alcohol poisoning, i guess i lost to Pan

[@PanTheOrganizer]

🤣🤣🤣

[@Justthemow]

I’m dead

[@KingCornflakes]

I have never been drunk so fast 😂😂

[@williamthomastaggart5080]

As always, Pan, great video and education. Yes, I just purchased a 2021 BMW M330i, and after the proper prep work I applied the following coating. Two coats of Artdeshine Metal Oxide Coating, followed by two coats of Tacksystem Top Coat. Time will tell. Have a great weekend.

[@PanTheOrganizer]

Thanks for sharing

[@gomzythehellboy]

Holy God!!! I m not courageous like u pan, I can't put my car to this Mayhem. Great video , for knowledge 👍❤️

[@PanTheOrganizer]

Thanks for watching. What car are you currently driving?

[@costelripa]

Finally, since when have I been waiting for such a subject approached by you ... Now I sit down and relax, after washing my car after a 2500km road!

[@PanTheOrganizer]

Wonderful!

[@ethan5144]

How do you know if you did remove the ceramic coating with mechanical polishing and or wet sanding when the hydrophobic properties may be gone but the protection still there?

[@SIat]

No consumer grade coating will survive polishing or wet sanding. A professional grade 5+ year coating might, but that’s it. I hand polished a spot on my hood a month after applying cquartz and it completely removed it in that spot. But to answer your question after you polish just use an IPA wipe down and if it’s super slick then there might be ‘some’ protection left but if it’s a little grippy then there’s nothing there. If you rinse that panel and see zero beading or sheeting that’s also another way to tell

[@PanTheOrganizer]

Well said.

[@frankpavan7865]

Great video Pan. I would not have thought that the ceramic coating could have withstood such abuse. Makes for a great selling point for people in future thinking about applying it to their cars. For professional detailers like many of us it makes for a much easier sell. Thanks!!

[@PanTheOrganizer]

Thanks Frank! :)

[@princeboateng694]

Big props to you sir! Going all out on your own vehicle! You are priceless, I appreciate you

[@PanTheOrganizer]

Thanks! How did you discover my channel? Welcome to my channel. You discovered one of the biggest car detailing channels on KZbin as we surpassed 850,000 subscribers and 106 million views! I have been detailing for 25 years and I love to share my knowledge and passion with my viewers. You found the right channel to help you learn everything about detailing.

[@princeboateng694]

@@PanTheOrganizer just searching here on the tube for detail advise and products.

[@BH-tp3pm]

The quality of a non sponsored video is great

[@illusionzauto]

Although ceramic coatings are amazing. Doesn't it seem like a big liability if you have to water sand the coating off? Although we always start with the least aggressive first, how does one know how much to wet sand off with a ceramic coating that is semi-permanent or permanent? Just sounds like more work and a risk at that. Thank god for Carpro because they make most of their coatings easy to remove with just a simple polish.

[@Caraholic.v8]

I hope you'd split the hood into sections where you try each product individually. I have a ceramic coating and i want to remove it. However, i don't know which worked from the products, is it the product it self or the repetitive applying and changing the product.

[@PanTheOrganizer]

The ONLY way to ensure 100% removal of a ceramic coating is by machine polishing. That’s the entire point of this video. Did you watch my video until the end??

[@mackmcclure8661]

Hello from Germany….thanks for another great and informational video. You are a brave soul submitting your BMW to such harsh treatment but your video drove the learning point home. My Volvo XC40 was ceramic coated immediately after purchase in March 2019 and am totally satisfied. The application was performed by a local professional and came with a 5 year certified warranty. Ater viewing your video on the new Turtle Wax Hybrid Solutions Pro Graphene FEX Wax, i had my two bottles mailed over from the USA. While it’s currently too cold yet to apply TW Flex Wax, I plan to use it as a topping and general maintenance. Got the beer on ice awaitig your next video!!!

[@PanTheOrganizer]

Thanks Mack!! What’s your favourite video on my channel so far?

[@mackmcclure8661]

@@PanTheOrganizer There are numerous ones that were excellent but if I had to select only one, then the "What's better - Wax, sealant or ceramic coating" video really stood out.

[@joaquincoello1786]

Hi Pan!!!. Holy Molly this is an excellent test of the strength of ceramic coating. But in my personal opinion everything is how much you take care of and maintain the ceramic coating. Great job friend Pan👍👍👍, greetings from Panama🇵🇦

[@PanTheOrganizer]

Cheers from Canada Joaquin!

[@KonstantinosTsagkalidis]

Great video Pantelis. I have subscribed to several car care channels. But no is like yours. You explain everything and show us in every detail what and how we can achieve something. You have answers for everything and that makes your channel unique throughout KZbin. Thank you very much

[@PanTheOrganizer]

Glad you think so!

[@capture1231]

Hey Pan. Trust you are doing good. Every time I am always very enthusiastic to see your videos and much satisfied after watching. I started detailing my Skoda rapid car and really enjoying. Thank you very much for sharing your experience and much appreciated.

[@PanTheOrganizer]

Thank you so much 😀 What's your favourite video on my channel so far Arun?

[@bayardaw]

Pan i really liked this, and the fact that you did it on your own car i loved that. You love what you doing. I keep watching all what you do, keep it up like always you do.

[@PanTheOrganizer]

Thanks Bayar! Happy new year! How did you discover my channel?

[@bayardaw]

@@PanTheOrganizer Through the KZbin detailing videos, And btw im a left handed too 😅 I start my business recently as a detailer

[@PanTheOrganizer]

Hahah awesome! Good luck with your business! Hey, how did you discover my channel by the way? I hope you're enjoying the videos.

[@bayardaw]

@@PanTheOrganizer thanks a lot! I discovered it from KZbin it self.

[@jsalicru]

Love to see you willing to do this to your own car. However, this same test with a regular consumer level coating like CarPro would be more impactful

[@PanTheOrganizer]

The results are always the same. Ceramic and graphene coatings are no joke. Did you watch one of my recent videos where we put three coatings to a crazy torture test? These were consumer grade coatings, available to the public, and heck they even resisted being put on fire! Literally. Watch my video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/fKLCiZh_Z52JqdE

[@turbo97semax]

I was not surprised at the result but I am more interested in what you are going to put on your car next! Thanks for the video!

[@PanTheOrganizer]

I am getting a brand new car this summer, as I get a new car every three years. So stay tuned! It will be MEGA.

[@barrybij8079]

Great information pan.. why I liked the vid is it shows if I'm cleaning my tires and so wheel brightener gets on the paint, it won't strip the coating..thanks for the intel

[@PanTheOrganizer]

Thanks Barry!

[@eamonkelly2792]

You are a brave man, I don't think I could have been brave enough to do it on my own car, thanks for the great video 👍👍👍👍

[@PanTheOrganizer]

Thanks Eamon!

[@Ludo_A]

OK Pan, polishing. But you also mention sandpaper for tough coatings. How do you know that after polishing the coat is totally gone? It can not be seen by the eye?

[@PanTheOrganizer]

If you have zero water beading left and very slow water sheeting after your polishing steps, that's a visual indicator that there is most likely no protection left.

[@jimgee2676]

wow amazing thanx Pan ...speaking of ceramic coatings i just got 3 boxes of avalon king, im gonna give it a try , i have 2 cars with original paint 1 is a 1990 mustang gt and the other is a 1978 camaro z28 , the older car has single stage paint i hope it bonds well

[@PanTheOrganizer]

Cool !! I hope you watched my tutorial video on the AvalonKing coating. You can do it!

[@jimgee2676]

@@PanTheOrganizer thank you Pan , with you as my online TEACHER i believe i will do a great job

[@williamclick9771]

Thanks so much Pan, I was so afraid to add a ceramic or graphene coating on my 2000 Toyota Camry LE. Now I can and not be afraid to being a beginner detailer. My car is outdoors for winter which I don't like. But it will have to do until Spring and Summer when I can really detail it. I've learned a lot from you and still learning. Thanks again.

[@PanTheOrganizer]

Thanks William! How did you discover my channel?

[@williamclick9771]

How did I discover your channel. Hmm good question. I don't actually remember. I think I was on another site when I saw your Channel. I was interested. I clicked on your program that day and that's all it took I was hooked. And I'm glad I did. I'm learning on my 2000 Toyota Camry LE. But of course this car has had 4 owners I'm the fourth. So it is I that's trying to turn this car around. You Pan are a big part of the detailing I have learned I can't thank you enough. But I have learned one thing detailers do things differently. I have also learned this for myself. But most detailing is basic. This I have learned. I take pride in what I do to my car because I believe it is a reflection of one's self. All I can say is thank you again.

[@PanTheOrganizer]

Thanks for the positive feedback and the kind words. What’s your favourite video on my channel so far?

[@eddyf374]

Thanks for your work! Great video. Keep it up

[@PanTheOrganizer]

Thanks, will do! What's your favourite video on my channel so far Eddy?

[@bobevans6590]

I am impressed! Who makes the blue tape? Surprisingly the bug and tar remover residue didn’t burn the adhesive on it?🤔 ok I just saw the blower move the tape!

[@ItsJustManny305]

Nono this tape is garbage the REAL impressive tape is the one FAB auto detail uses in the collab video. You need to check that one out lol

[@PanTheOrganizer]

Haha totally!!

[@jayz313]

Great video! I appreciate your dedication to detailing, risking your own car. I do have a couple of questions: 1. Would you reccomend "weaking" the coating with one or more of these chemicals, prior to polishing off with a DA? 2. The Carpro bug remover intrigued me with its cleaning abilities. Would you reccomend this as a possible step in reviving or deep cleaning a coated vehicle?

[@PanTheOrganizer]

Thanks Jay! To answer your questions... 1) Not necessary. I would simply do a wash, iron remover, claybar, and start the polishing process. 2) To revive and deep cleaning a coated car, at least once every 6 months, you should wash the car, use a tar remover followed by an iron remover. Watch my 1 year update video on my coated car: kzbin.info/www/bejne/q5WXqHqXoNqGjdU You wouldn't do exact all those steps on coatings that aren't as chemical resistant, but you get the big picture.

[@airsoftman0319]

WOW! Opti-Coat pro plus holding up amazing. So cool to see. Considering it for my next coating!

[@PanTheOrganizer]

Watch the video where we applied it on my car: kzbin.info/www/bejne/eZDLk2uGgrVmgaM

[@paulgyro]

To my knowledge it's the most chemical resistance coating on the market handling ph 0-14. Compare this to Carpros ph 3 - 12

[@Jimbo5063]

Great video Pan. I’m impressed that you would do this test on your own car rather than a junk yard hood. Keep up the great work.

[@PanTheOrganizer]

Thanks James!

[@gabevancappellen6090]

Followed your recommendation and tried Carpro CQuartz UK 3.0. Have coated 4 vehicles this month. Customers love it. Thanks for all the tips you offer. Looking forward to the new car.

[@PanTheOrganizer]

Thanks Gabe!! Good choice of coating. :). What's your favourite video on my channel so far by the way?

[@gabevancappellen6090]

@@PanTheOrganizer I enjoy all the videos. My favorite 2 are the How To Install A Ceramic Coating and your Products of The Year videos. Last year after your video I purchased P&S Non Acid Wheel Cleaner and love using it.

[@PanTheOrganizer]

Thanks for the feedback! What country are you watching from? Cheers from Canada 🇨🇦!!

[@gabevancappellen6090]

@@PanTheOrganizer The U.S. Kentucky

[@PanTheOrganizer]

Sweet!

[@ericdruet1885]

Awesome video!! I think I almost pass out when I saw you doing that test in your car!! You are very courageous Pan. Thanks for the amazing video

[@PanTheOrganizer]

Thanks Eric! What’s your favourite video on my channel so far?

[@ericdruet1885]

@@PanTheOrganizer the one with the Black M3 BMW Full detail. That was my go to video to learn. Still have on my library and used it as reference

[@PanTheOrganizer]

🙏🏻👍🏻

[@elliotsimpson3591]

Wow, I'm honestly surprised ceramic coatings stood up to those most aggressive chemicals! The end stuff is no joke and DEFINITELY makes me look forward to applying my own ceramic coating knowing they mechanically provide so much chemical resistance! I do have a question, though, Pan! Can you get the same gloss & liquid-like appearance in a ceramic coating as from a liberally applied wax-based product?

[@PanTheOrganizer]

Thanks for watching Elliot. I highly recommend that you watch my ultra popular video about the differences between waxes, paint sealants and ceramic coatings: kzbin.info/www/bejne/j6ndZK2Ji66gY8k After watching it, you'll know so much more. And let me know if you have any questions after watching that video. ;)

[@yakabothatesthis]

I was surprised you washed the chemicals on the test side, across the good side. But as you'll have to re-coat the whole panel, it didn't really matter. And you're sending me broke buying the stuff you recommend. :)

[@jaimecordova1000]

I ride a new Can am RT Spyder and did a ceramic coating on it , I decide to wrap the front with a clear paint protection film so I needed to get the ceramic coating off and this video is just what I needed to watch to get it done ! Any suggestions on coating the windshiled that is made of Plexiglass for those of us that have cars but also have motorcycles ? Awesome video Pan !!

[@jasonbrown5376]

Hi Pan, great video. It looks like I need to polish my coating off. I noticed a high spot. Thanks for the tip. It's right on my driver's door.

[@PanTheOrganizer]

👍🏻

[@1983dmd]

Très.,très pertinente vidéo qui répond à plusieurs de nos interrogations! Bravo!

[@PanTheOrganizer]

Merci!

[@datsuntoyy]

No matter what I need to do, know, see or buy in the world of detailing, Pan has a video explanation. So if you have to resort to mechanical means to remove a coating, how do you know when you've polished enough to remove the coating without taking any clearcoat? Also, what happens if you polish a coating but it's not gone and you apply a new coating? Some of the new graphene coatings say they'll stick to anything. I'm redoing a CQuartz UK 2.0. I have Ethos graphene for one car and Adams Graphene for another.

[@PanTheOrganizer]

Those are very hard to answer questions. You know you have removed the protection when the paint isn't beading water anymore and when the water sheeting is very slow and flat. But it's almost impossible to just remove the coating, you will be removing a bit of clear coat as well, which is normal, as you are essentially doing paint correction. It would be ideal if you have a paint thickness measurement BEFORE applying the coating, and then get readings as you are going through the compound and polishing steps and take measurements to see how many mils you are removing. But that's a bit over the top. I wouldn't worry too much with that. You wouldn't be doing this very often anyways, as most coatings these days last 2+ years.

[@ssam3447]

Amazed on how the coat self healed itself. Pan, which ceramic coating have self healing properties? This would be a great help.

[@PanTheOrganizer]

Unfortunately I don’t have an answer to that. The brands don’t mention this as I think they don’t want people to assume their coating will self heal in all scenarios. I just found out when I reached out to the installer of my coating and he had said it will self heal in a few days…

[@dandydonslife9869]

Hello Pan, good video, great info on ceramic coating removal. I agree using a polisher is way to go.

[@louiss.w1944]

Dear Pan, I followed every step that you did in the Avalon King video. Thank you so much for the recommendation and advice, everything worked out and my car looks extremely glossssy. Hats off to you man. I’m buying more to use on all my friends vehicles and maybe even my tractor😄.

[@PanTheOrganizer]

That's good to hear Louis! You made a good choice. How did you discover my channel by the way?

[@louiss.w1944]

@@PanTheOrganizer 100% KZbin algorithm

[@kenzukang3997]

Another learning information about ceramic coatings... thanks for sharing 👍😎👍

[@PanTheOrganizer]

Thanks!

[@stevesmith7747]

Bonjour Pan!! Great video again. But a true sign of how good your library of videos are? I knew the answer before I watched this video 😁😎 And I’m just a weekender who has seen all your videos. Thanks for all the knowledge and training!!! Merci!!!

[@PanTheOrganizer]

That's awesome Steve! It shows that you pay attention. :)

[@gman1868]

Mother of all resistance = MOAR... Pan the Organizer!

[@PanTheOrganizer]

👏🏻👍🏻

[@GuyRosenhoiz]

Pan, you are absolutely amazing. Learning so much from you!

[@PanTheOrganizer]

I appreciate that! How did you discover my channel by the way? Welcome to my channel. You discovered one of the biggest car detailing channels on KZbin as we surpassed 940,000 subscribers and we have over 124 million views! I have been detailing for 26 years and I love to share my knowledge and passion with my viewers. You found the right channel to help you learn everything about detailing.

[@GuyRosenhoiz]

@@PanTheOrganizer discovered it about a year ago through search. Was trying to learn how to polish my car :-) and about various materials and chemicals to treat my car better.

[@alientje97]

i am a big fan of the gyeon prep, really good for taking of old wax and strong sealants. excellent for when u want to coat your car and want it to be sqeuky clean.

[@nsw72]

The topic was ceramic coating. And a high end one at that, professionally applied.

[@alientje97]

@@nsw72 so?

[@nsw72]

@@alientje97 Wondering how Gyeon prep fits in here. Have you tried it on a ceramic coating? Did it work? Just interested as an alternative to what Pan has suggested.

[@alientje97]

@@nsw72haven't tried it yet on ceramic but is does work as one of the better consumer grade products for sealants and waxes as i said. other removers are simply weakers.

[@dmoceri91]

Imagine destroying your professional grade, thousands of dollar ceramic coating to educate the youtube masses. That's why Pan is the best. **EDIT** Should have kept watching all the way. Can't believe it still wasn't gone after this torture test.

[@PanTheOrganizer]

Heheh yeah it's quite the coating! Thanks for watching Daniel!

[@Ragnarcreationstuidios]

Good video! The only thing I noticed and I don’t know if it makes any difference is that on your left side where the different products are applied, when you wash it, your spraying the water over to the right side and thus the chemicals are getting onto the side that isn’t being tested.

[@beekay2822]

Pan. Huge fan. Love that you try these products on your own vehicle. Shows dedication. How do you wash your microfiber after using coatings? I put my towels in the wash and my apartment smelled like I just doused it in carpro reload.

[@PanTheOrganizer]

You never wash your microfiber towels used to remove/level ceramic coatings. You have to throw them away. Washing them won't remove the tiny particles of silica that will dry and form crystals once hardened, and will scratch your paint if you reuse them.

[@edmondmartin9004]

Excellent video. I am now considering doing a ceramic job on my vehicle. Merci

[@PanTheOrganizer]

Thanks Edmond!

[@xianreiss]

Great video to show the durability of your ceramic coating. I was watching this to find a good product to clean a new car (right from the dealer) and also to clean my ceramic coated (Avalon King) mustang. Both are getting Gyeon Can Coat when done. Thank you for your efforts.

[@PanTheOrganizer]

Thanks Christian! How did you discover my channel by the way?

[@xianreiss]

@@PanTheOrganizer found it 2 years ago when I was beginning to detail my car. I'm near Toronto.

[@SirLuLzDalot]

You are very good at presenting/demonstrating your point. Thanks for vid

[@PanTheOrganizer]

I appreciate that!

[@MsPCG-qw4xp]

Thanks Pan for a great video! This spring I will be coating my husband's Tacoma with Avalon King. I bought a DA polisher a couple months ago and I'm practicing paint correction on some fenders in my basement 🙂.

[@PanTheOrganizer]

Sounds great!

[@dougcittel143]

Great videos! Really am learning a lot .... THANK YOU PAN! Now a question for a person such as I .... a D I Y'er, retired, on a budget. What one true Cerramic product do you recommend for a first time user, on what will probably be the last car I will ever own? I am going to follow all of your and the product mfg directions ..... to the "T" ....... so that my newly bought 2017 Cadillac XT5 will be protected as well and as long as I can possibly do it. Pan, you have exposed us, your viewers, to a ton of good products. But I want to know your one pick to use on my last car. Ceramic is, to me, the way to go. You've very convincingly demonstrated that. Thank you sir!

[@PanTheOrganizer]

The one in my popular tutorial here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/mKqulIypet6Kfc0 How did you discover my channel by the way Doug? Thanks for the kind words!

[@dougcittel143]

@@PanTheOrganizer ..... the search on UTube pulled you and all your videos up for consideration, along with soooo many others. But to me, your no 'BS' style of presenting the knowledge you have .... stands alone. Really good! As I mentioned, a new / used car purchased within the last month had me wondering what kind of car care products to use. As a young man I loved to detail cars for friends and my own. But obviously, A LOT has changed since the mid to late 60's. The Cadi I have now is a real "cream puff" and I knew when I drove it home, I'd have to get back up to speed on car detailing. Thanks Pan .... and keep up the good work young man.

[@PanTheOrganizer]

Thanks Doug! What’s your favourite video on my channel so far?

[@dougcittel143]

@@PanTheOrganizer ..... Very good question! In thinking about that I first have to say this. I am watching (my wife would say 'binge watching') your videos every day for the past 2-3 weeks, to try to learn as much as I can that applies to my vehicle. I have learned a TON of good stuff and for that I will always thank you Pan and give full credit to you by name. But you have a huge channel. So many videos! However, I must say that I am currently watching your video "Who Is Pan?" To be brief ..... simply INCREDIBLE Pan! Truly awesome to allow your video viewers in on who you are. I sincerely commend you young man for your honesty, ethic and letting us know you to some degree. THANK YOU!!!

[@istvanreti9088]

I really liked this video. I have a question about the ceramic coating. If I apply ceramic coating on the windscreen, does it affect the vision at night drives in the rain?

[@PanTheOrganizer]

You would use a ceramic coating specifically formulated for glass. Like the one I present in my glass polishing and protection video : kzbin.info/www/bejne/r37MZoOqrtaIf5o

[@istvanreti9088]

@@PanTheOrganizer thank you very much:) have nice day!

[@jamesec1949]

You certainly answered the question. Well done. Thx.

[@PanTheOrganizer]

😁👍🏻

[@cszekl]

Wow Pan! I would of been pretty worried to try that on my paint! I kind of figured mechanical was the way to go for full removal. I purchased that Avalon King I'm going to try that this spring as soon as it warms up here in Wisconsin.

[@PanTheOrganizer]

You’re gonna like that coating Chad!

[@micsub]

You have to know your ceramic coating very well to dare make your own car go through all these punishing chemicals Top video, maybe the best on ceramic coatings I've seen, thanks a lot for all the work put into it.

[@PanTheOrganizer]

Thanks! Glad you enjoyed the video. How did you discover my channel by the way?

[@micsub]

@@PanTheOrganizer J'ai une voiture neuve en commande et j'avais un peu entendu parlé de traitement céramique. J'ai cherché sur KZbin un tuto ou autre car en France ce n'est pas très connu. Donc en regardant des vidéos sur le Ceramic Coating, de proche en proche je suis tombé sur les vôtres. J'aime beaucoup ce que vous faites, c'est très instructif, vous donnez beaucoup d'informations. Keep it going et merci encore !

[@PanTheOrganizer]

Super merci!

[@samuelwirstrom8103]

Not surprised at all. I've been surprised how long my consumer grade coating has lasted with good maintenance.

[@PanTheOrganizer]

Yeah ceramic coatings are the real deal. Compared to waxes and sealants, it's on another level.

[@samuelwirstrom8103]

I used cquartz 3.0 UK thanks to your video and tips. It's been awesome!

[@nadirkhan7552]

OMG! I just got the notification for this newly uploaded video. I'm out shopping ATM. Excited to reach back home, sit back, relax and watch the show 📺🍿😁

[@PanTheOrganizer]

Hope you enjoy!

[@nadirkhan7552]

@@PanTheOrganizer loving it 🌟

[@zeush960]

When you did the strip wash you put the mit In back in to your reset wash, so now you have strip wash with your reset wash

[@PanTheOrganizer]

Hahaah yup

[@brainfleming8756]

As a winter project I already have Armor Shield IX which I will be applying myself, my first install. Since I already have a spray on type ceramic, I thought that the best way to remove it would be with Simoniz pain restoration compounds and my buffer, thanks for the confirmation.

[@PanTheOrganizer]

Thanks!

[@peterjurenovskis5933]

Hey Pan, Another stellar video. Before you decided to use your own car and a plethora of chemicals on the coating, did you discuss this with Yvan Lacroix (Opti)? The self healing properties of your coating are stunning. I knew the answer to the removal question, but it was great to see proof instead of taking someone’s word for it. Keep it up!

[@PanTheOrganizer]

I didn't discuss with him before the test, as he had already told me when installing this coating on my car almost 2 years ago that Opti-Coat Pro+ had that pH 0-14 incredible chemical resistance, so I was quite confident coming into it. When I saw the surface being scarred by Super Clean, I spoke to him after the video was filmed, and asked if that was normal. That's when he told me not to worry about it, and that it was probably just some residue and that would eventually wash off and the coating would self-heal. And that's what I noticed a week later, hence the mini update clip in the video showing that the hydrophobics came back after a few washes.

[@peterjurenovskis5933]

@@PanTheOrganizer Thanks for the response. The only thing I’d add is that the chemical effect might be cumulative. Each subsequent addition of the chemicals wears on the coating (even if followed by a pH neutral soap and rinse). It would weaken the coating. It just so happens that the coating that you have applied is stronger than the total (great for you). This might not be the case with some of the weaker coatings. Great topic Pan! Keep it up and stay safe.

[@chrisf8645]

Another amazing video Pan! Thank you! Questions - so removing Ceramic coating off the paint has to be done mechanically. I'm assuming on Glass as well? How about Plastic Trim?? One of my cars I want to remove the current Ceramic by DA polishing, paint & glass and then reapply a different brand Ceramic Coating. Can I go over the the Ceramic coated plastic with a fresh coat of Ceramic without removing the current Ceramic coating on the plastic trim? Please let us know and as always THANK YOU for all the amazing content!

[@nickp1273]

Just put on the Chemical Guys Carbon Force ceramic coating. What is the best method to maintain a coating to give you the full 5 years or good length of time?

[@PanTheOrganizer]

Follow the steps from my popular ceramic coating maintenance wash tutorial here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/r33MloOHh7J5mZo

[@GeneG-wk2mz]

Yes indeed the man with the plan let’s test on the ultimate driving Machine every day drive forget that test panel I like it

[@isabelnunez3349]

Pan you are my #1 go to!! Love your videos. I just applied the Avalon King DIY ceramic coating using your video as a reference and the car is awesome!! I haven’t washed it in 3 weeks. Several rain storms later it ilooks perfectly clean. All I need to do is dust it off! Great product. I do have a question. How do I apply another coat of the ceramic coating? I only applied one coat originally, but I’d like to add a second coat for longer protection.

[@PanTheOrganizer]

Thanks for the kind words Isabel. Welcome to my channel. You discovered one of the biggest car detailing channels on KZbin as we surpassed 920,000 subscribers and we have over 120 million views! I have been detailing for 26 years and I love to share my knowledge and passion with my viewers. You found the right channel to help you learn everything about detailing. I'm not sure what you do to "dust off" your car, but please don't use those dry dusters, or dry wiping with a towel. The best is to always wash the car. If you only have a very light layer of dust and don't want to wash, use a good quick detail spray and a plush towel and spray the surface, and gently wipe. You wouldn't want to cause scratches or swirls in the paint by dry rubbing. For your second question, you have passed the window to apply the 2nd layer. When applying the coating, you apply the first coat, wait 45-60 min, and then apply the second coat. And you have to let it cure for 48 hours before exposing the vehicle to water or rain, and wait at least 2 weeks before washing the car again. In your case, many weeks have past since your initial application, so at this point, it's unsure if a second layer would bond properly. What you could do is fully wash the vehicle. Dry it. Use the paint prep spray to wipe the surface free of any oils or residue. And then apply a new layer. Don't forget you have to let that cure for 48 hours without rain, and then again wait 2 weeks before washing your car again.

[@MNpicker]

Awesome vid Pan!! I always figure if you want or need to remove a coating its probably time for a buff anyway 👍🏻

[@PanTheOrganizer]

Thanks!