Peter Attia on Stability - The foundation of the 4 exercise components

[@jemag]

I wish you could do a video series on DNS and PRI exercices. While you have explained it's advantages, the implementation is non trivial for those without access to a practicioner.

[@wturber]

I'm 64. About the time I turned 60 I started doing one simple thing with the idea of improving balance and stability. I almost always put my shoes on while standing on the other foot. Same for socks and same for tying shoelaces. The hardest is my cycling shoes since I have to tuck the shoelaces after tying. It's a simple thing to add at almost no cost. It seems to improve my hip flexibility as well.

[@beemo9]

Most people have poor body awareness, largely from a lifestyle with minimal physical activity. As an exercise instructor for 17 years, i noticed that the most coordinated people - the ones who learned new tasks the easiest - had engaged in sports growing up (high school or earlier). It's so much harder for adults who had a sedentary childhood to become skilled with their body, so it's important for kids to engage in sports.. preferably including team sports, for the psychosocial benefits.

[@void0350]

i was very lucky to have had teamsports at a child. good coordination prevented more injuries i already got.

[@Siberius-]

Hatha yoga seems like it would be pretty good for stabilisation, too. Also static strength.

[@socrayes2010]

A Simple stability/DNS definition and maybe how to measure its improvement or degradation please.

[@josipvran]

Stability (the way you describe it) just boils down to proper strength and coordination training... Strength is essentially muscle mass + coordination... And proper coordination (which is discussed and investigated in fields of motor control and motor learning) of muscle fibers you have available will enable you to move more efficiently per any movement you're performing. One thing that your body likes when it comes to motor learning is variability (something that is discussed in dynamics systems theory a lot). Variability means putting your body in different circumstances so it can adapt, and it adapts "better" if you put it in more variable circumstances than less variable circumstances. That is one of the reasons why DNS is a good practice - most people don't have proper movement patterns and they hammer away with their basic strength training without taking care of the details (and in DNS you go through a bunch of different movement patterns and positions that teach you how to move, as opposed to just doing squats and deadlifts for example). So I wouldn't say that stability is the foundation. Actually variability of movements you're able to execute properly is a foundation to build your body upon. The more variable your options for movement are - the more your body will find that "most stable state" (if I may call it like that) for any movement performed. Nikolai Bernstein (anybody who studies motor control knows that guy) performed original motor control studies on blacksmiths and their efficiency of movement: It turned out that the more variable the movement of hammering a blacksmith had - the more accurate he was while hammering an object, and vice versa. This example is old but gold and it serves as a backbone for anybody interested in motor learning (which is the backbone of strength traning, coordination, DNS and other practices, and basically anything you do with your body). Most efficient movement patterns are not stable, they are highly variable - and that is precisely the reason why they are most efficient. So stability is not the aim nor destination (that being said, osteokinematic principles need to be adhered to, but variability and not stability is built into adherence of those principles also). Great contet Dr. Attia, I enjoy learning from your podcasts and listening to your perspective on longevity and performance - I added this comment as a potential contribution to a very high quality work that you're already doing :D

[@mr.t244]

Stability is the foundation, no energy leaks.

[@josipvran]

@@mr.t244 Read what I wrote first, and then you get to comment on it so we can have a proper discussion. Your body is about 30% efficient when it comes to mechanical efficiency so the idea of "no energy leaks" is as futile as your poorly articulated comment. But on the other hand, thank you for sharing your opinion - much appreciated.

[@mr.t244]

@@josipvran Honestly I spent 15 mins writing up follow up argument but yt decided to give up on me, so I won't write anything besides this. If your way of thought wotks when training your clients, athletes, general population, go with it. All Im saying is there are certain principles that are higher in hierarchy of importance than others, postulates so to speak. You do not exert most efficient movement pattern with poor base of support, stability. We can have same force in muscles in the throw let's say hypothetically, if your ipsilateral movement pattern in this case is better by certain principlrs, more fluent dynamically, you will beat me, every single time. Longevity of athlete and their patterns are also correlated, once on the top succeeding with incorrect patters are not succeeding because of them, they are succeeding in spite of them, genetics are a wonderfull thing and to some teaching the correct movement pattern will do more harm than good if they are already well developed athlete. Check Roger vs Murray serve, slow it doen check Murray patterns, tonus of quads, missalingment, his hip injury eventually. Variability is good, yes, but give your body an option to do certain movement incorre ctly or not do the movement at all, it will do the movement incorrectly if enough force is applied and obviously if your tendons, ligaments can keep up. Repeat it enough times, that pattern will become stronger, for sure, but that is reinforcing wrong pattern right from the getgo, its reinforcing compensation. So why not apply variability while having some.principles in mind rather than applying variability for the sake of it. Your body adapts to long sitting by going into kyphosis of thoracic spine, its easier obviously to have loading on the spine and passive structures rather than having to actively have muscles engaged in correct position, by your analogy, kyphosis is 'better' here than normal posture that is described by golden line for example ? I don' think so. And lastly, no, most efficient movement patters are not 'not stable', they are stable. Efficiency should have time span in mind along with achievement when talking about athletes, not temporary efficiency that will go down the drain when injuries start piling up, and as I said, some top tier athletes succeed despite false patterns, not because of them. And lastly regarding that last comment 'most efficient movement patterns are not stable, they are highly variable', having some small degree of variability in mind, once you go past that, its just reinforcing bad movement pattern that your body goes to once it cannot sustain the correct one anymore (different for everyone, body is seeking the weakest link in the chain), so again, if enogh force is applied, lets say last rep of last squat, so enough force, your connective tissue doesnt give out, yea u gonna perform probably shitty ass squat if you let variability get.in the way of efficient movement too much, too often. This is as broad topic as it can get probably, I could end up writing essays here but I neither have the will power, time, nor the reason, this is just food for thought. English is far from my mothertounge, some mistakes or not the best expressions are probably here, I won't comment anymore, cherrs.

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[@thecastle09]

DMS???

[@jaimecontreras7865]

Dynamic Neuromuscular Stabilization