Porsche 911 GTS: It’s a Hybrid! | First Drive | MotorTrend

[@fluffywarhampster]

All these people here bitching about hybrid as if the pinicle of motorsports hasn't been using hybrids for the better part of a decade....it's almost like all these "car guys" have never watched f1 or wec....

[@gonzalesg0221]

The hybrids are definitely not an improvement from the V10 days

[@AnnatarTheMaia]

F1 is not a thing Americans would watch. It's considered too sophisticated and therefore not syndicated in the United States, at least not on the scale of "Nascar".

[@fluffywarhampster]

@gonzalesg0221 what are you talking about? They make way more power, are way more efficient. F1 cars have never been faster than in the turbo hybrid era.

[@fluffywarhampster]

@@AnnatarTheMaia this is a stupid comment....we have 3 grand prix in the US per year and a massive following for f1

[@gonzalesg0221]

@fluffywarhampster The sound and excitement in person, the current cars are disappointing in person. I don't care about how much more fuel efficient they are now. I go to events for entertainment and enjoyment.

[@jak493]

Does the GTS sound any better with just a single turbo?

[@americanAlienBoy]

The base Carrera is now in an odd position: The 718 GTS 4.0 offers almost identical performance, classic Porsche NA flat-6 sound, and mid-engined handling balance for a lot less money.

[@Slickpete83]

*OMG the repair bill to replace the battery in the future will be super expensive, they should just keep it simple*

[@derbigpr500]

Just walk then man, never have to worry about anything, just buy new shoes from time to time. It's cheap.

[@Slickpete83]

@@derbigpr500 *^comment makes no sense*

[@edkwon]

Most new owners lease and wont keep the car past its factory warranty, so a non factor for them

[@larssonk22]

that's the next owner's problem

[@KIM-nc7ti]

It’s a small 1.9 kwh battery. Barely bigger than toyota hybrid 1.3 kwh. Unless Porsche want to RIP off customer by overcharging the replacement

[@Steve-yr5vi]

I think it's unfortunate they don't offer a non-Hybrid version of the GTS. I get the battery makes it better all around, however likes so many have said, long term this is going to be more expense then its worth. I do find it interesting Porsche bumped the base engine to 3.6L, it seems like that volume is perfect for a turbo six. And it also occurs to me electric turbos, along with the 3.5L are ideas Ford came up with, Porsche has made it their own. I wonder if Porsche is also blueprinting the Ford Coyote 5.0 to help them resolve issues with their V8.

[@rayjay8322]

I'm definitely questioning the longevity of said Electric driven turbo system.

[@t20594]

Not connected to exhaust or oil system. The only 2 real failure points of a turbo. Assuming Egr doesn’t feed pre turbo.

[@myemailiscool]

I'm sure the porsche engineers did not consider longevity at all. 911s usually don't live long lives

[@kencreten7308]

Why? Do you think we haven't come to understand electric motors - yet? The Pearl Street Power Station was built in New York City by Thomas Edison in 1882. We've been doing electric motors for a while now.

[@rayjay8322]

@@kencreten7308 LOL! I probably generated more electricity than you have used in your whole life, unless you're really old!🤣🤣That's a pretty poor comparison to a electric driven turbo in a Porsche. I do know turbo's quite well. No matter if it is exhaust driven or electric driven, the RPM's are going to be quite considerable. That is just the nature of the beast. I'm quite sure the veins on the impeller are a bit different than an exhaust driven turbo, but you still can't avoid basic engineering and high rpm's are still going to be a requisite. It is still a piece of equipment with very tight tolerances. That combined with the high RPMS and 100 percent constant use, definitely makes it a part that is high on the eventual failure list. Only time will tell the longevity of said part. At least there's not the high heat from the exhaust driven side that would cook the oil and Coke up the bearings. It would be interesting if they released the turbo map figures on this particular setup.

[@derbigpr500]

@@rayjay8322 I'm sure you don't know jack compared to Porsche engineers, who developed this, and you know, who have a tendency of developing indestructible super high performance cars that just keep working no matter what you do to them. So yea, keep questioning, wannabe Scotty Kilmer. The only enemy to Porsche's reliability (as to any other European car) is an american owner, most of whom believe servicing your car regularly is just a scam by the dealership, and then don't do it, and then cry when something goes on. That's why the same cars in the US have about 20x more breakdowns compared to the same cars in the EU. And they're driven much harder in the EU on top of it. Says a lot.

[@AGC828]

The base 911 is worth it safe"good enough" as a result 3 driver IF you can resist the temptation to add any options.. Take it as is.... Ironically off you buy aGTS it comes with a lot of options you'd add to"lesser" 911s

[@Hoktew]

Good to see and hear Sir...always a pleasure

[@bereal721]

The rare wheel drive or all wheel？

[@davect01]

Johnny lives

[@beekaye1496]

Porsche’s engineers are super and perfecting the 911. Nothing comes close to it.

[@MChannel75]

And super complicated and super expensive to maintain and super depreciation overtime

[@1GulFF]

U didn’t comment on iconic key they switched it with button

[@zTheBigFishz]

They implemented an MGU-H with the eTurbo.

[@JoshWaitulavich]

Do you get power steering plus or do you not get power steering plus of your rwd gts?

[@deecoopsau]

It’s a no-cost option.

[@carstravelcoffee]

Is this ice gray metallic?

[@front2760]

Was wondering what the color was also.

[@pabasamdee163]

Looks like Arctic grey

[@sourabhsahukar]

Its their new Flat color called Slate Grey.

[@TTT-1961.]

No, check the build on the Porsche website and you will see the color specs options.

[@deecoopsau]

No. Ice I’ve grey looks almost white, until you put it next to a white car.

[@erichietbrink6473]

That might be as fast as my M3 Competition xDrive

[@folag]

Faster.

[@kornonacob]

Wec hypercars have hybridization

[@laser69beam]

Jeezus did Johnny swallow another 911 before he filmed this…? Or is that just the side effect of removed DLRs..?

[@nairbyad7188]

can't see you!

[@kornonacob]

Hybrid at least have the ice .... no fully ev crapiolas pls

[@folag]

This is a hybrid like no other. The motor does not directly augment the ICE's power.

[@davidsolloway9349]

like 66 !

[@huckfin1598]

No manual and electrified. Might as well be a luxury high performance Prius

[@derbigpr500]

Tell me you're clueless without saying it.

[@larssonk22]

...are you being serious right now?

[@ElMistroFeroz]

Why would anyone in their right mind get a hybrid… gas savings? Give me a break.

[@derbigpr500]

Did you even care about reading up on this hybrid and what it does, or do you usually prefer to jump to dumbass conclusions? Its much faster, has zero turbo lag, more efficient and not heavier than before. And the system will be more reliable and durable because this turbo inherently has less moving parts and is under less stress.

[@TTT-1961.]

You may not understand that this is not a typical hybrid; Porsche essentially took the hybrid tech from Formula 1 and put it in a street car.

[@DriftJunkie]

The performance coming from combining an electric with combustion engine is CRAZY good! And this comes from a manual, 3L NA V6 purist. I wholeheartedly recommend you go for a testdrive in one of these performance oriented hybrids. It's a life changing experience.

[@folag]

You haven't been paying attention. Take the trouble to understand what Porsche have done .

[@southfloridanick]

Boooooo…… GTS should be naturally aspirated, ultra high rpm, and as light as possible.

[@deecoopsau]

You mean GT3RS, right?

[@southfloridanick]

@@deecoopsau No, the GTS…. The GTS should be a street car but highly trackable for true enthusiasts who are willing to give up some creature comforts and ride quality for a fun to drive car with enhanced feel. The GT3RS is a streetable race car with an insane price tag.

[@folag]

Go buy a 911 GT3 RS.

[@folag]

​@@southfloridanickThe GTS is not much heavier than a GT3 RS. RWD/PDK. Dunno about you, I enjoy left-foot breaking, especially on a track. You get all that in a GTS. Besides, I'll bet the AC is also driven by an electric motor instead of off the ICE, meaning the ICE can breathe freely at top revs, no paralytic losses.

[@southfloridanick]

@@folag there is virtually zero parasitic loss at WOT because of the AC.

[@charlesrogers8420]

Sad. Climate cultists have devalued the Porsche brand.

[@huckfin1598]

It’s more about performance. I don’t think this car has anything to do with fuel efficiency

[@derbigpr500]

Sad that some people on youtube can't wait to show how clueless they are. We urgently need an IQ test as a requirement for posting comments. Too bad 90% of you wouldn't be able to post them then.

[@folag]

Nothing to do with saving the planet, all about making the car go faster.