Powerlifting Overrated/Underrated Ft. Dave Tate

[@Arms.Enthusiast]

This was awesome, I must also say, the plate clanking is probably the most therapeutic sounding censorship of swearing I’ve ever heard.

[@kenjewer7183]

Agreed! So clever

[@johnkrstyen]

Before even watching know how Dave Tate is there is probably lots of it.

[@hensen8729]

Fuck yes :D

[@pretty_flaco]

i’m like, who’s back there bouncing their deads😂

[@squatrx]

Fucking hate it

[@hvaranhvaran]

Dave Tate is so conscious of his biases, that it's hard to believe that he is an old meathead. Very wise man

[@wardidly3098]

I like that Bryce over the years has turned into a bulbous hulking mass right before my eyes.

[@carltaylor2975]

These guys may very well be some of the very best in the world at what they do. Obviously they are just as world class with their lifts but it impresses me how much they know from a knowledge perspective. Incredible. Every time I watch Calgary I learn.

[@markkress6134]

I could listen to u two debate and just generally converse about the sport all freaking day

[@dukeesq]

What the box squat has helped me is to understand how deep I need to go for at least to go parallel. And it's humbling, feeling that you think you've reached depth before, but are only at a 75-80 degree angle.

[@Biscuits3000]

Beauty interview, one for the ages. Lots of excellent quality information in here!

[@benjaminmacintyre349]

More of this please

[@jek-ko1396]

I love that racking sound they put over the cursewords as censorship. It is such a satisfying noise.

[@hensen8729]

Looks like the two had a good time with this one! Love it!

[@ImNotPickleRick]

This was brilliant! Dave seems also to be really cool guy.

[@barbellgardener]

Outstanding conversation and insight.Thanks!

[@NageekNoohac]

Awesome idea man and the editing is great lol lots of weights dropped in the audio today

[@robo_goat69]

It’s fascinating how many people across the s&c spectrum say bodybuilding blocks are crucial and how it’s the best way for beginners to start out. Dave himself started off in bodybuilding I believe. So he built his foundation there.

[@TheNerdJD]

Agreed. I regularly schedule bodybuilding blocks between my two strength cycles and I’ve found this rotation to be the most beneficial for my goals. The bodybuilding blocks are refreshing and humbling at the same time and I definitely love the stimulus and joint recovery it provides.

[@robo_goat69]

@@TheNerdJD it feels like a lot of gym beginners want to go right into powerlifting and it’s like buddy you need 2-5 years of basic training before you can start to think about any specificity much less the one that probably wears you down the fastest

[@christofferuden7680]

He did powerlifting first and then had a quick stint in bodybuilding I believe

[@kenjewer7183]

What an awesome video! Great work, more content like this! Keep it up 👌

[@timothynavratil437]

Great video, thanks for some Sunday morning lifting😊

[@StephColbertsonStrength]

I’ve used the band trick on bench with a complete beginner. I was teaching a 14 year old who couldn’t bench more than the bar. There some micro bands and there and he instantly started stabilizing the weight.

[@RevShifty]

That's where I think bands can really shine. Total beginners, even older ones, because the bands force them into the correct positions better and more quickly than a million different cues can. It lets them feel what it means to be properly braced and secure before they bench, and it immediately helps them feel what it means to explode through a squat and keep their weight spread out through their whole feet. I was beginning to think I was just an odd duck, so I really enjoy seeing someone else say similar.

[@sdwchoi]

Really helpful! Would love to see more.

[@alishezad2357]

00:03 Baconators are overrated. 02:15 The safety squat bar is underrated for building weak points and improving deadlifts. 06:25 Powerlifting equipment like belt squat and safety squat bar are overrated in terms of their effectiveness in training. 08:37 Belt squats are overrated in powerlifting. 12:40 Walking out during powerlifting is underrated and important for setup and technique. 14:39 Safety concerns with combo rack and catch chains 18:36 Powerlifting Overrated 20:25 Box squatting in powerlifting is now considered to be appropriately rated 24:03 Accessories not specific to powerlifting are underrated for intermediate lifters. 26:15 Bodybuilding style work can be valuable for powerlifters to overcome plateaus. 29:48 Utilize non-compressive leg exercises and hypertrophy movements to maintain and improve strength as a powerlifter. 31:25 RPE (Rate of Perceived Exertion) is overrated in powerlifting 35:23 Using a consistent language or terms in powerlifting helps in setting expectations and building a relationship. 37:07 Understanding and implementing RP (Rate of Perceived Exertion) in powerlifting training. 40:41 Powerlifting technique is more important than using bands or speedwork. 42:34 Speed work in powerlifting is important for building force and improving technique. 46:20 Technique work is essential for improving powerlifting performance. 48:10 Technical work is important for powerlifting

[@user-pp1tn5vk4z]

thanks:))

[@kiisu.powerlifts4544]

Would like to have heard Dave's under/over opinions on Velocity Bar Tracking... Next time!

[@christopherroberts2500]

Completely irrelevant for powerlifting, I don't even know why it became a 'thing.' Powerlifting isn't a velocity based sport, unlike weightlifting. And it seems people who have bought into the hype don't even use that data in any meaningful way, just a 'hey this second rep was faster, haha cool!' fashion. Another fly-by-night trend that already seems to have largely fallen by the wayside.

[@jontasdemir6761]

"sometimes 8RPE is a 15 lbs PR. How the fcuk did that happen?" - That hurt so much Coach!

[@sethglasser8677]

This was excellent. Thank you guys!

[@jeffboothe2102]

Great info and delivery.

[@m00nkiid]

Just what my day needed

[@HonkeyLee]

Been waiting for this one

[@TEA75148]

Amazing video!

[@brewhaha515]

Box squats are amazing especially when banding them

[@adenecom]

The fact that Dave tate has very differing opinions than you about a lot of the topics makes it more fun to watch. Good job

[@mikevaldez7684]

Dave Tate is highly intelligent, point blank! End of story. His knowledge is encyclopedic. I've only heard 3 separate youtube clips and can see he is highly analytical, & evidentially was a great lifter, too. 🙋🙏

[@normalman8447]

Bulgarian split squats are an accessory movement? 😂😂😂 Those can be someone's entire leg workout!

[@Liz-kj2jj]

That got me too, like lateral raises and split squats are not on the same level 😂 I consider split squats a main leg movement. However they are usually later in my workout after a heavier leg lift, since they’re unilateral. But I also just use relatively light dumbbells - people who load up the barbell heavy for split squats are built different and I would definitely consider that a main compound lift

[@normalman8447]

@@Liz-kj2jj I don't do barbell squats because of my back. I do goblet squats, Bulgarian squats and weighted lunges in my leg day.

[@1repmex659]

If those adirondack rocking chairs have an Elitefts logo I'M BUYING ONE!!!

[@NinpoUK]

Regarding RPE, I've found it's important to call it out somewhat regularly (thus test where RPE10 is) to remain pretty accurate with using it as a training tool. I really like Bryce's idea of figuring out RPE for a block, I've messed with using it for an overall session. Honestly just thinking about it keeps fatigue in mind which is how we progress and avoid injury imo.

[@Andreas7074]

I think the RPE discussion was really on point. If you have good anchorage with your coach, and know your own RPE's. An RPE9.5 on a close-grip bench or something, the last rep can basically be as fast as the first, but the athlete knows that his triceps are just dead, and he cannot physically do 1 more rep, right.

[@vincentdin]

Lots of wisdom

[@BENNYTWOSHOE]

Underrated Calgary barbell App !!!

[@Beardedwarrior91]

Belt squat overrated? You hurt my heart Bryce! 🤣

[@williamlawlor7445]

Box squats done properly, breaking the concentric, eccentric chain are very underrated. As far as speed work or dynamic work goes is in the application of sets, reps and percents. You take group of four people, even if they are all built similarly, there rate of force will differ. I think that speed or dynamic work needs experimentation on each individuals part in order to find that sweet spot for that particular individual.

[@Priimerra]

great vid

[@LatimusChadimus]

1:17 RIP John Meadows

[@HumanMechanism]

MOAR

[@1repmex659]

Also WHO IS SLAMMING WEIGHTS IN THE BACKGROUND they dont let me hear Dave tate say "fuck" hahaha

[@trevino37]

Speed work is over- rated because Louie Got that concept from Olympic weight lifting where speed work is crucial and a staple in Olympic weight lifting. With out speed, you will never increase your load effectively. However, in powerlifting, speed work is minimal due to all the pause work done to address weak points at the bottom of a lift for both bench and squat. But then again, speed work makes much more sense for Strongmen Competitors because speed is crucial to that style of competition, BUT where speed work will look much different from powerlifting Olympic Lifting is all about speed, strength and technique Strongman competition is all about speed strength and endurance Powerlifting competitions is all about strength and technique.. No one misses due to being slow. Speed Work is over-rated in powerlifting

[@actorsheart3142]

The OG's

[@RennyRe]

This is really cool!!

[@dustinchang5089]

With regards to box squats, maybe it was just Louie being Louie but i remember watching a very YT famous seminar where he advocated for box squats regardless of squat stance, he said “even if we squatted narrow, we’d still train wide”. Things like that, IMHO led to the overrating of the box squat.

[@matdelagardie5193]

I love Dave Tate

[@j.johnson8360]

PL is great for those who compete. For others, not so much.

[@johnsambo9379]

Is that why most athletes do powerlifting movements? Please think before you post.

[@subparpt]

Dave Tate says Sumo isn''t cheating. I think the argument is over

[@BulkBrogan.]

Forcing Dave to say options besides "it depends" counts as cruel and unusual punishment lmao

[@squatrx]

What the hell is that clang sound??? (love the video but that sound drives me nuts)

[@Wekkerklok]

Pretty sure its supposed to mimick weightplates clanging against eachother as a form of censoring for the cursing.

[@squatrx]

@@Wekkerklok Yeah, I figured that out from other's comments. Still hate it

[@brucemackenzie4952]

Bryce is great but why anyone would do what he has to his body is very strange.

[@quokka4329]

Underrated

[@bcraiders11]

Baconator

[@andylin7841]

🤣speed work, i'm on my 2nd month of 10 triples

[@banglevision8207]

HYPE

[@dieselryder78]

WTF is with the language censoring

[@calgarybarbell]

You mean "what the *clank*"

[@petermccavington8232]

Seems like type of people to miss the toilet 😂😂

[@DevitoAllPro]

Lowkey tho triple baconator cheaper than a five guys burger and high in protein if you wanna be a fatass 😎

[@rickstark85]

Dave Tate is overrated.

[@CCSABCD]

Overrated: dave tate

[@YouJustAintHearinMe]

I have always liked and respected Calgary Barbell but in truth, this was akin to listening to someone who read a book and someone who wrote a book. Dave Tate's knowledge is underrated and unappreciated in my opinion. True guru of powerlifting.

[@Artheam]

Funnily enough, whilst I like Dave and EliteFTS, I'd probably put him in the overrated category. I think he has a lot of knowledge but I've noticed a number of times when slightly beyond his comfort zone he's not very knowledgeable.

[@bloopbloop2703]

@@Artheam it's a respect your elders sort of thing for people who came up in strength sports during a certain period

[@kenjewer7183]

I think your comment is un founded, Bryce’s powerlifting résumé isn’t anything to sneeze at. Dave has years sure but it’s not Ike Bryce is brand new by any means, he’s in the current powerlifting world while Dave is in the past. I would say Dave wrote an outdated book and Bryce is writing a current best seller

[@YouJustAintHearinMe]

@@kenjewer7183 Bryce is great no doubt. I know of his accomplishments. Very impressive indeed. I'm closer to Dave's age just to give more point of view. We all have our own opinions. I say kudos to anyone making positive input into strength training.

[@06alepea1]

Bryce has competed and coached at world level for years. The idea that he's only "read a book" is pretty insulting.

[@freedomfitnessequipment]

@massenomics