QTC Garage 1981 - Ikarus test - Orange Yellow Splendor

In November 1981 Queens Transit tested a Hungarian made Ikarus articulated bus (type 280?). In this film we see some driver training in the depot yard, now the site of MTA Bus College Point Depot. Once known as Queens-Nassau, MTA Bus took over Queens Transit in 2005. The company had two busy routes between College Point/Whitestone-Flushing and Jamaica (Q25/34 and Q65), plus a Woodside-Flushing route over Northern Blvd (Q66), Jewel Ave (Q65A), the Long Island City - Middle Village route (Q67), the Co-op City - Flushing (QBx1) and numerous express routes between northeast Queens and Manhattan. There was a modest charter business as well, which was legally problematic for a company that was accepting government subsidies for both Capital and Operating expenses. This test bus is in Portland Tri-Met livery and I must assume was absorbed by their fleet after the demonstration at QTC.
There is a detailed history of American Ikarus at en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crown-I...

[@trainluvr]

When I shot this film it cost me money and I was not sure it was worth it and never thought it would be so popular. Thank you.

[@captianjessie1]

the 286 and the silver sides were the top hardest working buses for there days in ottawa octranspo really did their best to keep the ikaris 286 buses on the the road even as a stop gap mesure between 2001 and 2003 and the articulated buses new flyer that city of ottawa ordered underpowered and over worked 4 cyniders torbo charger expecially slow with the ac on also very limited ventilation openig windows that replaced the ikaris 286 were much better then the ikas

[@Milkabika]

I'm very proud to see our buses in the USA. Greetings from Hungary!

[@nevoobrazimiy]

Thank you for sharing this piece of history!

[@arnoldwerli93]

Greetings from Hungary!

[@MagicMike-rd8mz]

Goodmorning And Thanks for the history lesson I did'nt know that Queens Transit test a Artic Bus back in the day ... And you always make great videos ....

[@bencefarkas3651]

I'm Hungarian, and I travelled by Ikarus, and so cool

[@SnarkOrel]

Thanks for the video! It's so surprising to me to watch Ikarus bus in the USA. There were a lot of this buses in USSR and other eastern europe countries, so this bus is the bus of my childhood. Nowadays some Ikarus 280 buses are still used in Russia.

[@christopheryanoski6899]

i love watching these things go around turns.

[@balazspetho5070AgroGO]

AMAZING footage. Thank you very much! Greatings from Hungary :)

[@tricyann]

Portland OR had a fleet of the artics. I drove them for many years. I loveD driving them.

[@BV7814]

Woooooow,this is wonderful...so many thanks for sharing ; )

[@trainluvr]

Thanks for the info. I forget who notified me of the bus or how I had access to the yard that day but if not for this film, it might have been forgotten.

[@gyoergypecsi]

You did an amazing job, THANK YOU!

[@KevinCNYC1991]

I heard OC Transpo remanufactured their fleet of 286s instead of retiring many of them like the TTC did. They even picked up some TTC units and ran them until 2003.

[@captianjessie1]

Caesar St. John between the octranspo orion 3 ikaris 286 and the ex ttc that octranpo picked i like the octranspos more cause the 25 ex ttc had brown seat the smelt like leather and were a lot more smokey out of the exhuast pipes the octrans. and vbetween the voilth and zf transmition i like the voilths more and totally dislike any allisons tansmittion that came after the the 730 and 731

[@HJW81253212]

We had a few of those in Milwaukee.

[@williamgreeter1855]

HJW81253212 we had at least 30 3400-3429 until 2000 and than the RTS buses where striped as well

[@chevycaprice87]

Ikarus has been almost in every continent. =)

[@nanasigabor4159]

Type: Ikarus 286

[@paulspivey6799]

Golden times

[@ferris-fam]

I love it

[@trainluvr]

Thanks, info noted.

[@williampmurphy1158]

When this video was recorded in 1981, my late Father, Bill Murphy, was working for Queens Transit as a mechanic in the Body Shop. A lot of fond and fun memories of accompanying dad to work on occasion on Saturday Mornings. Dad retired from Queens Surface Corporation in 1988, after 36 years of service. May he rest in peace.

[@ClassicTVMan1981X]

Do I see what looks like TriMet (Portland, OR) livery on that Crown/Ikarus 286? TriMet did, in fact, have 87 of this kind of buses in operation in the years 1982-99.

[@brianbrwa]

It's the scheme, but I think TriMet simply adopted the demonstrator scheme for their standard.

[@gabeguzman]

yeah we did i miss those and the rts's we had not like the crap busses we have now!

[@ct1660]

So there's a new algorithm called DAIN which claims to smoothen the framerates and is able to increase the video FPS to around twice the original FPS. Do you remember if you shot this at the 18fps or 24fps setting? It's pretty important so that the algorithm can properly smooth out the fps.

[@trainluvr]

Just do it both ways and see how it comes out.

[@ct1660]

Will give it a try. Want me to email you the result?

[@bencelocher1958]

A little Hungary...

[@williamgreeter1855]

MCTS had these buses until 2000 they probably had the L10 Cummings diesel

[@TheCRTman]

Cummins NHHTC engine not L10

[@williamgreeter1855]

TheCRTman oh I didn’t know that because MCTS had 20 Neoplan AN440 buses with L10 Cummings diesel while the others had the 6V92 Detroit diesel

[@TheCRTman]

@@williamgreeter1855 Yep they sure did. I wish one was still around, as L10/Voith Neoplans were extremely rare.

[@Alexandre-hk4jq]

The articulation looks so tiny,it seems hard to turn and the attrition on the back tires must be tremendous

[@winMANhun]

The C axel is steered too, so it’s extremely easy to turn with the Ikarus 280 series. They have to same turning radius as the solo (not articulated) models.

[@michael_voitovich]

Чья это музыкальная композиция?

[@trainluvr]

The Zodiac - Cosmic Sounds 1967track "Leo - The Lord of Lights"

[@michael_voitovich]

Спасибо, уже нашёл. Интересный альбом.

[@ferris-fam]

c tran is young

[@btmacster1]

The half of the bus were made of american parts

[@MrLiveON]

херась , советы в тылу засели. помню какие они вонючие были у нас...дымили на сто метров назад и всё отравляли

[@chevycaprice87]

потому что были убитыми в хлам. У нас сейчас ЛиАЗы 2008 года уже ведра страшные, зато Ikarus-280.33М 2001 года, выглядят куда лучше и не дымят.

[@OregonTransitFan]

Junk on wheels, TriMet made a huge mistake ordering these junk piles

[@veghatilla]

It worked and still workes well in dozens of countries around the world, but the U.S.

[@benedekhalda-kiss9737]

Well I mean the gmc does look absolutely disgusting. And the cummins engine didn't help. Would've worked better with the original Rába engine.

[@OregonTransitFan]

These were the CRAPPIEST buses at TriMet... Even the D40LFR's are better... They were SLOW and all them had to have frames rebuilt when they were new. Ikarus aren't good at all

[@OregonTransitFan]

Ikarus were only popular in Hungary and the areas around it. That's just nonsense you are saying that they were most popular. MAN was more popular in Europe. I'm sorry but GMC, Flxible, Gillig, and New Flyer dominated North America 70's-90's

[@OregonTransitFan]

And you bet I have logical reason to say these soviet buses are trash. Transit operators hated them. Had to be rebuilt within a year, causing unnecessary delays and costing the systems money. They were slow so drivers hated them

[@OregonTransitFan]

Ours had 14 liter 350 HP Cummins. Nothing gets tougher than that. And it wasn't a manual... It had Allison HT 740, a world class heavy duty transmission. Can't blame the USA for the terrible build quality lol

[@KevinCNYC1991]

If they were crappy, why did they nearly last twenty years? Sure they were not perfect, but I'm aware of other buses like Neoplan, Flxible, GMC, etc. that also had issues with their buses too. Ikarus worked out the issues on them and they performed fine. The reason they were slow was because TriMet repowered those buses with 6L71TA engines (instead of keeping the Cummins they had), which were very slow on any bus that had them, whether it was a Flxible or an articulated bus like the Ikarus.

[@OregonTransitFan]

Trimet usually keeps buses 20-25 years. It helped that they rebuilt them but by the time they were canned they were in such terrible condition. Heck, they even had 1972 Flxibles until 2000.

[@MultiSuperShell]

Вот эти американские Икарусы были оснащены коробкой автомат, электронным табло, удобными откидными форточками, удобными сиденьями, яркими фарами итд... А Русские были как всегда через жопу - водителя спасал только гидроусилитель руля, а так - дурацкая коробка механика со сцеплением, которое выжимать приходилось два раза.... Вообщем даже на примере одного икаруса видна разница между западным миром, где всё для людей и русским, где всё - для галочки, где на людей похер. на деле полное дерьмо. Зато алкоголь дешевый, чтоб алкашей много было, ведь алкашам похеру на чём ездить абы ездило. Это печально.