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[@TheInternetInvestigator]

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[@Web_Crawler]

Gurl you are my crush, do you have ig??

[@IlIlIIlIlIlIlIlIl]

Video suggestion make a video on r/UrinalCakeLife

[@tikimillie]

Man that one antismoking sponsor going around would have fit so damn well for this video

[@IlIlIIlIlIlIlIlIl]

@@tikimillie the fake vapes?

[@Shitlifesyndromesufferer]

@@IlIlIIlIlIlIlIlIlfume is what its called I believe

[@krazypickles6157]

That last story about the woman wanting to groom her unborn child to be her smoking buddy is one of the most repulsive things I’ve ever heard.

[@Aconitum_napellus]

Eat cheese flavoured cheese.

[@krazypickles6157]

@@Aconitum_napelluswe’ve forgotten the crackers, Gromit

[@Aslerixer]

​@@Aconitum_napellus what does that mean?

[@josedorsaith5261]

Similar vibe to the accounts from mothers who force their sons to dress as girls. Some people are evil and enjoy destroying innocence

[@TeagueisTrash]

@@josedorsaith5261 i hope ur talking about an actually problematic thing and not young trans girls being supported by their mothers

[@dashytbytch3]

the stories of peer pressure are gross in my opinion. if you want to ruin your own body, that's fine but pressuring those around you to become addicted (only to fulfill your own fantasy) is really manipulative.

[@hannahp1108]

It's morally depraved, seriously

[@marielux7372]

Yep legit evil vibes

[@Aconitum_napellus]

​@@marielux7372 Cheese flavoured cheese.

[@Aconitum_napellus]

The whole thing is disgusting. It makes me want to eat cheese flavoured cheese.

[@PeachysMom]

It reminds me of the pro-Ana community, how they strongly encourage the disordered eating and glorify the horrific results

[@JokersD0ll]

I have a special person in my life who is very addicted to smoking. He started young and is now 30. It’s terrifying to think people find this dangerous addiction attractive.

[@imaferretmaster]

Thered a fetish for everything, there's a whole subgroup of people who are attracted to getting and spreading AIDS .

[@RedneckWarlock]

I have met many men much younger than me at work who smoke. I'm just as worried. Some of them have newborn babies, I hope they quit, and live to see their kids grow up

[@dyrr836]

I lost a very close friend to an asthma attack and another loved one to blood cancer, so I had to stop watching this video before it completely ruined my mood.

[@JokersD0ll]

@@dyrr836 so sorry for ur loss ):

[@Aconitum_napellus]

​@@JokersD0ll Have some cheese flavoured cheese

[@JuliaMarieH]

I love how you start your videos with a warning like “hey, this video might be too much for some people. However, if you feel like it’s actually not enough, I have an even worse one on my kofi” it’s so unhinged and I love it

[@WhiteTulip2002]

Exactly 😂

[@afterhourscinema782]

57:46 *"They claim their mothers smoked while they were pregnant and they turned out fine. I mean... that's debatable."* 😂 The shade

[@epiphanysyzygy3103]

As someone who has asthma, listening to people romanticize having a constant cough is insane. I've never smoked, and I hate the coughing fits, the mucus, the difficulty breathing, etc. that I struggle with. I wish every day I could be rid of it... I can't wrap my mind around voluntarily doing that to yourself.

[@hannahp1108]

I think the *most* disturbing element for me is the people who want to watch others get sick and decline because of smoking. I can't imagine seeing anyone I cared about, even in the slightest, getting sick and getting excited over it. Edit: Oh my god, the 9 year old with the pack a day habit. That stepdad is a MONSTER

[@esteemedmortal5917]

Only genuine psychopaths could watch someone die of cancer and be like ‘wow, that was spectacular!’ It is fucking awful.

[@josedorsaith5261]

​@@esteemedmortal5917 There are a lot of psychopaths about. 1 in 100 are sociopaths

[@marielux7372]

It’s sui cidal ideation just channeled into a bad habit

[@lowwastehighmelanin]

Freud's death drive made literal

[@marielux7372]

@@lowwastehighmelaninyep 100%

[@TheDiabeticGameMaster]

It sounds totally insane to me but when you put it like that, well, idk, it totally makes sense, somehow.

[@trippy6183]

@@lowwastehighmelaninYes, exactly.

[@thegoat20066]

I don't have a fetish and arent as bad as these ppl but unfortunately I do find it somewhat relatable which is terrifying

[@catticorner]

this all gives such pro-ed and ed fetish vibes.... ive spent a lot of time around such communities (not so much the fetishists, but ive heard the horror stories) having suffered from an ed myself for years, and the things in this video feel so uncannily familiar. people using stories and images of other people's pain, trauma, and even death to motivate themselves and each other to get sicker, encouraging harmful behaviors and indulging in it... while i dont think im in any position to try and take some moral high ground here, i will say that it just breaks my heart to see people so sick and so willing to be so, especially because i know what the cycle is like. also, props to you for being candid about your own smoking experience. all the best to you II 🖤

[@clare6640]

i was thinking the exact same thing, especially how my perspective as a non smoking fetishist must be how people without an ed see those who glorify it

[@cat_boy2921]

i used to participate in sh and ed forums, and i was thinking this exact thing. the "get worse" mantra in these communities feels incredibly familiar here, and im sure some of the appeal stems from the desire to get worse

[@nyxiinyx]

The two communities often intertwine, as many pro-ed folks will use smoking as a way to reduce their appetite

[@catticorner]

@@nyxiinyx oh yeah i remember hearing that as a "tip" a lot back when i was in those ed spaces, im surprised i didn't connect that myself lol. really good point tho!

[@hannahp1108]

Oh my god, you're right. The fetishization of sickness itself, it's just like that.

[@AshChiCupcak]

This immediately reminded me of the youtube channel of the guy who continued to smoke himself to death and his comments were so disturbing, encouraging him to keep going. I just dont get why someone would do this but i guess its good that i dont.

[@marielux7372]

Leather Smoke Mi was the guys name! That story scarred me for life

[@AshChiCupcak]

​@@marielux7372Thank you! I couldn't remember the name. I feel like he had to be in such a dark place mentally to go through that. It messed me up watching someone slowly destroy their body and to know people enjoyed it. Introduced me to a side of the Internet I could have done without.

[@marielux7372]

@@AshChiCupcak yeah, it’s dark dark. I’m a pretty happy, bubbly person and always have been. Extreme optimist. Seeing that there are ppl out there like him and those ppl who encouraged him… yeah it changed how I look at the world. It’s just so foreign to me, it’s fascinating as far as a psychological case goes. I am an ex smoker who was very addicted and I loved smoking- it helped me to stay quit at least

[@stemcellwhoax]

@@marielux7372i can’t find the docu about him i watched a long time ago

[@edsand9498]

that was exactly what i was thinking of! i think nick crowley did a segment in his most disturbing youtube channels videos

[@ethanstapleton8350]

I'm not going to lie, it makes me angry that these people want cancer and for their bodies to shut down, when my mother took care of herself and wants to live for her family and she was diagnosed with it. Thankfully she's in remission, but I can't fathom why someone would want all the pain and heartache.

[@mariacarvalho2926]

Suicidal ideation, but somewhat socially acceptable.

[@esteemedmortal5917]

I don’t think they genuinely appreciate how awful it is and how sexual gratification will probably be the furthest thing from their mind when they get that sick.

[@TravellerZasha]

I have suicidal ideation but no interest in smoking but for me it's not a kink. my want for my body to shut down feels more like I deserve it and want the pain of life to end or a survivor guilt thing that I want to have cancer so someone else who doesn't deserve to have it doesn't get it. Like if I want to die so badly why shouldn't I get it when other people who don't want to die get cancer, i'd rather it be me then them. Can't say for the smoking people but I hope it gives some perspective. Also hope your mom is doing better :)

[@MandaMalice]

I was a heavy smoker for ten years. Never more than two packs a day but I would wake up in the middle of the night for a cigarette. Quit in 2006 and I think that’s where I got lucky. It was after smoking started being banned everywhere but before vaping. Made it harder to smoke and easier to quit. Miss it every. single. day.

[@TheInternetInvestigator]

Congratulations on quitting! But yeah the last line of your comment is what scares me, I’ve heard a lot of people say the craving never really goes away totally 😭🖤

[@lastilnovista]

i smoked a pack a day for ten years and quit cold turkey in 2004. for a few years afterwards, i would occasionally try a puff of a friend’s cigarette if we were drinking, and i was shocked by how absolutely repulsive my body found it . . . i tried on several occasions and it wasn’t enjoyable or nostalgic at all. i guess my body/brain shut down that circuit and for that i’m grateful. nowadays, the only time i crave a cigarette is if i’m watching people smoking in a movie or show, but only certain scenarios are appealing - e.g., if the characters are smoking and drinking whiskey in an elegant setting. my brain registers that depiction of smoking as a pleasurable treat. watching characters smoking in stressful, anxious situations and crusty, struggle environments does not trigger the same craving . . . my brain rejects smoking in that context as stinky and gross. honestly, i’m really surprised by how much i *don’t* miss smoking . . . especially because i have ADHD and other dopamine-related neurological imbalances, which basically make me hard-wired and especially susceptible to addictive behaviour (in theory) . . . i wonder whether perhaps some other broken synapse circuit in my brain facilitates turning off those cravings like a switch? lmaooooo it’s like when you get the “ick” about a person and never find them attractive again, and can’t understand how you ever found them appealing in the first place . . . 🙈

[@GusTheDeviant]

I have asthma, never smoked, always breathless. The fact that they are actively trying to feel what I feel on a daily basis is so fucked up. How badly do they hate themselves that they want to choke on their own lungs? I worked for years to get my asthma under control and I'm finally, FINALLY getting there. How anyone would want to destroy that is beyond me.

[@RedneckWarlock]

I have asthma and had a long smoking phase. I can't understand why I did that, aside from wanting to self harm. It sucks to wheeze constantly and be unable to breath even more than usual.i guess the drive to seem 'cool' is a thing. My friend who has even worse asthma than me did the same thing for a while. We admit it was absolutely stupid.

[@dangernovak5035]

I also have severe asthma and have smoked for a decade, stopped self harming maybe 7 years ago but feel like smoking will forever be my vice

[@Aconitum_napellus]

You should have some cheese flavoured cheese.

[@longlongie5938]

It clearly shows they never experienced any health complications and as soon as they get them, it doesn't feel fun and sexy anymore

[@themoongateofficial]

Lmao I’ve had asthma since childhood but haven’t used an inhaler since 17, around the time I started smoking pot ironically

[@corvidmorgue]

i think that fictional characters that smoke are hot but this is really really fucked up

[@caitlinsnowfrost8244]

Yeah, I find the trope of "1920s femme fatale with a cigarette in hand" *very* aesthetically pleasing, but the idea of actual IRL smoking being considered 'hot' is disturbing.

[@TheRunningLeopard]

Agreed, like I find it attractive in the abstract like in illustrations or shows like Fallout but being around anything related to smoking is awful in real life and the smell makes me sick.

[@abellabarbie]

Can you explain why you think it's hot? Is it because they don't care about their life? I'm a super-smeller so I cannot help but imagine the stench every time. Lol

[@niraea]

@@abellabarbie it's a consequence of like, a solid 100 years of big tobacco advertizing/propaganda. and countless pieces of media where the rebel, the bad boy/girl is a smoker. when you are consuming these tropes and images from before you can even speak, that'll do some psychic damage lol. i would say the IMAGE of smoking is a lot different from the reality of smoking - for most people it's just another fantasy. most fantasies are no longer fun when it becomes reality.

[@gasolinecake]

@@abellabarbiei think its just aesthetically pleasing. smoke itself, no matter the source, can be seen as pretty. and the little firelight that glows when someone inhales is kind of cool. and a cigarette is daintier than a big chunky vape. that being said i personally don’t find it SEXY i just understand why it can look aesthetically cool. i also hate the actual smell of cigarette smoke and have not been and will never be a smoker myself

[@somecanadiangirl1]

Very minor part of the video but holy fuck that persons who’s stepdad let them start smoking at NINE and now they’re not gonna see 25??? That stepdad should be arrested

[@PeachysMom]

Exactly. That was literal grooming, and it was obviously very abusive.

[@rachelmccartney5931]

Ive had gum and patches, i tried a month or so ago to quit and gave up. This video made me put on a patch and hide my ashtray and smokes and try again. Thank you.

[@zoologygirl252]

Best of luck man. You can do it

[@rachelmccartney5931]

@@zoologygirl252 thank you, it means alot

[@O7iver]

This kind of thing reminds me a lot of “pro-ana” communities that romanticize hair loss, organ failure, fainting, etc. Obviously most anorexics don’t gain sexual gratification from their disorders, but there definitely are people who fetishize anorexic people women. Of herbs and altars made a really interesting (and disturbing) video on anorexia fetishists and how they fetishize anorexic women being weak and emaciated

[@Aconitum_napellus]

I used to love watching Dorian. Now I prefer cheese flavoured cheese.

[@O7iver]

@@Aconitum_napellus what?

[@_geno_]

personally i think this has a lot of parallels to ED’s? Like the wanting to get worse, wanting to see your body degrade, wanting to see the proof of you getting worse, stuff like that. The one about smoking in a group and just knowing that they would be the worst case in the group soon and that being appealing was also something that really correlates with ED’s, specifically anorexia and bulimia, idk how else to describe it but eating disorders can be really competitive almost? Wanting to be the worst or the lowest weight etc etc is a really common thing in EDed folk, and while this sub (seems to be?) only focused on the fetish part of it, its still really similar.

[@Avery_Quinn]

This is exactly what I was thinking since I had an ED too

[@mariacarvalho2926]

One of the effects of smoking is weight loss, so it's also an aspect that's very present in ED fetish communities

[@PeachysMom]

Exactly. It reminds me of the pro-ana community.

[@LD-2401]

Smoking is common with people with EDs because it kills appetite so that’s another parallel

[@emilydavis162]

I really appreciate how you mention the tumblr era of “cool grunge girls smoking Marlboro reds”. This has moved to the instagram aesthetic community, I’ve noticed. It influenced me to start smoking, although I barely did it, so I was able to break my habit easier than most. If you really wanna stop vaping, just know we believe in you! But I know from experience with other addiction that it’s not the best to stop before you’re ready, so do it on your time and nobody else’s. Proud of you, even if we haven’t met, in a weird parasocial way lol.

[@TheDiabeticGameMaster]

Hey, amen to that! Everybody always says "JUST QUIT" but you not only need to want it but your environment needs to be stable enough to allow it as well. Doesnt really help you stop if your income is based on drugs in some way or you work in a bar or sellin vapes or whatever is triggering for you. And if you were an addict becuase your life was a mess, well, guess what? Now u r sober AND you have no prospects PLUS now everyone hates u cuz "UR AN ADDICT".... When all youve got are things holding you down, letting go of one isnt enough to help you get up but it might be enough to loosen your grip and let you fall.

[@TheInternetInvestigator]

Thank you, I appreciate that 🥰 also glad you managed to break the habit before it got too bad! 🖤

[@lastilnovista]

“cool grunge girls smoking Marlboro reds” _Lana Del Rey has entered the chat . . . on a motorcycle_

[@Teifling]

As someone with a feeder kink, but doesn't practice, this sub reminds me of Death Feederism, wherein feeders and feedees are super into the health problems and inevitable death of becoming incredibly fat. All the way down to fetishizing people who suffer from obesity related illnesses, but are not feedees/gainers like those on My 600lb Life.

[@TheInternetInvestigator]

I actually made a video on the feeder kink a while ago, and I kept thinking about the parallels between the two while writing the script for this. Fundamentally they are quite similar in many ways 🥲🖤

[@WhiteTulip2002]

I have a theory that a huge number of “fat positivity” influencers audience members are feeders. And especially people like Amberlynn Reed

[@thebelow9117]

The thing with fetishes, is that you have no control over them, or...more often, have no idea why said fetish hits you on such an intrinsic level...

[@Onoesmahpie]

Stuff like this seems related to childhood trauma

[@CosmoQueen2900]

That's true but when it's gone so far that it's ending your life one has to be able to see there's a problem and tonget help. Cuz this shit is not normal.

[@ellishale2523]

Sure, but you can control how you interact with it. Many people have fetishes that literally cannot be acted on safely (or legally in some cases) and deal with that through art and fiction.

[@inalienswetrust4220]

You can 10000% control behavior related to a fetish

[@Pystoria]

Because of my health anxiety and OCD I can't imagine tolerating even second hand smoke for over a few minutes at a time. I feel so bad for them

[@Aconitum_napellus]

Have some cheese flavoured cheese.

[@marielux7372]

Nicotine is sooooo hard to quit. I went from smoking cigs, to vape and now to nicotine mints. Been trying for years to just stop all of it and I seriously can’t

[@roy4567]

Please keep trying to quit. I think you're doing a great job so far. Nicotine is a monster but with enough attempts I'm sure you can beat the addiction one day

[@akaczism]

I was a light cigar smoker and quit a few years ago -- I still get hard hits of badly wanting one out of nowhere (or especially if I smell others' smoke). Stay strong and keep at it, friend. I believe in you.

[@redwoodclimber]

I have a theory why people that start smoking nicotine with cigarettes have a much harder time quitting than those that start with vapes. There are 2 categories of nicotine I will call “instant” and “extended”. Instant includes vapes and chops/moles, or things that give you an instant head rush. Extended includes cigs, dip, gum, patches, anything that gives a lighter but longer term buzz. I think we should treat quitting instant nic and extended nic differently, because substituting cigs with vapes or vapes with zyns etc. just doesn’t feel right for me. Maybe I’m just going off my personal experience, but I am only interested in the instant category and have never enjoyed the extended no matter how many times I try them. Def consider myself lucky because the extended addiction seems much harder to quit than instant. It is probably possible for people to be addicted to both types, in which case it is probably the hardest to quit. I think tackling the instant and extended addictions separately could yield better results than going cold turkey on everything right off the bat.

[@TheInternetInvestigator]

Honestly it’s quite impressive you made it to the mints! I think half of the addiction is the habit of inhaling something, so it sounds like you’ve made good progress, keep it up 😊🖤

[@crazypyp5871]

You’re doing such a great job already and I believe in you! You’ve already come so far and you can quit. You’re already more than halfway there.

[@Anthroroxy]

I decided to really really actually quit nicotine a few days ago. I've switched to smoking herbs for now, and I'm down to 2 tobacco cigarettes a day from 10 a day because the lobelia in my herbal blend has been pulling the weight I hoped it would, I'm feeling optomistic for once. This video found me just in time, the reassurance that I'm not as bad off as i thought is encouraging. I tried quitting before, switched to vaping, and that really really made it worse, i did the math and nicotine-wise it was like i went from half a pack a day to one and a half a day... and the cravings were worse because my taste buds and nose were healing and the vapes were delicious all strawberry and candy and shit... don't get me wrong, I always knew big tobacco has been predatory since its beginning, I wasn't naiive when i started smoking, I was just suicidal. But now that I WANT to live, well, thats what I'm doing. Thanks for sharing this dark ass scary shit, I really really appreciate it.

[@sydneysabre]

Proud of you, keep on! Quitting is tough but worth it

[@lastilnovista]

yesssss, good for you, you’re doing great!!! 🥳💕

[@katg8064]

I'm 9 months cigarette free after 10 years of smoking. Watching this made me realize I romanticized smoking; I only chose to make an effort to quit because I stopped enjoying the process. I got to a point where I couldn't take a hit without gagging and it started to gross me out. I kept forcing myself through countless packs to get that 'perfect smoke' where I wasn't coughing, wheezing, dry heaving, etc. until it stopped being worth it for me. I struggle with cravings still and I honestly would be a smoker today if it weren't for those issues, but this video finally put some things into perspective for me and my addiction. So thank you for helping me find my root problem!

[@xXprettyxkittyXx]

As someone who also went from smoking to chain-vaping, this encouraged me to try and quit. It sucks because I only ever smoked 4-5 cigarettes a day, but vaping is a nightmare. It’s easily accessible and you can just have it with you all day. I’m going to the doctor on the first to see if I can get some sort of medication or therapy to help.

[@projectjupiter5523]

I hope your visit to the doctor went well or that it goes well if you haven't yet been. ease never stop trying to quit and free yourself from the major consequences of addiction. your life and health and happiness are worth the effort 💖

[@rebeccamcmanus4718]

Having grown up around dirty ashtrays, yellowed wallpaper, and the smell of smoke on everything, I don't understand how anyone could want that for themselves.

[@Notliketheothergorls]

I went to school with a girl who smoked through her whole pregnancy. Lots of people offered to help or quit with her, she honestly did not care at all

[@crazypyp5871]

The story at 47:00 is so fucking disturbing and gross. How OP kept pressuring her to smoke and encouraging her to smoke more packs. And for sexual pleasure and satisfaction. Ew.

[@yunnuc]

i love the channel but im not kidding when i say this is the first video in my life ive actually had trouble finishing

[@notcomfortable_here]

this is why paraphilias are so… devastating. some people genuinely cannot control what sexually turns them on. yikes.

[@MrKurtykurt]

I don’t know where these fetishes could possibly come from, or even how they could possibly evolve in someone, but I do know sexual desire and attraction as a whole is about as diverse and confusing as people themselves

[@Aconitum_napellus]

Eat cheese flavoured cheese.

[@ahhhhhh8493]

If I had to hazard a guess it stems from domination as a concept. Addiction is a form of domination if you think about it.

[@Nodeal757]

I have seen something like this but it was people who actively were trying to catch STI's - HIV being the top tier of that shit! So disturbing it was to come across that! Like obviously the people who "want" this crap cannot be in their right minds, but still its one of the most disturbing things put down as a "fetish" that I've ever encountered 😢 the enjoying them getting weaker and less able and actually finding that attractive is predatory as hell aswell as just being messed up! Edit- can empathise with you with regards to smoking/vaping, it's the one addiction ive found so hard to stop, and I see my health affected by it, nicotine is a horribly addictive chemical 💔

[@GlamGoth7]

Even worse, there’s people who get off on giving others STI’s unknowingly. It’s so disturbing

[@Hannahspooks]

Let’s investigate!!!!!

[@TheInternetInvestigator]

🖤🖤🖤

[@afterhourscinema782]

Listen, I like my cigarettes and black coffee too...but godammn people 😂

[@IraLuxuria]

Did anyone else start getting really conscious and grateful for each breath they were taking while listening to this?

[@peachytm1746]

this might actually scare the addiction out of me, and I'm only 20 minutes in :|

[@TheInternetInvestigator]

It hasn’t actually worked for me yet but honestly some of the posts on this subreddit made me think about trying to quit more seriously than pretty much any anti-smoking campaign I can remember 😅🖤

[@peachytm1746]

@@TheInternetInvestigator for real, they should just play this video for people, 100% more effective 😭🩷

[@lemmehxthat]

I was very close to becoming one of these people. I heavily related to the intentional, long term, irreversible damage that was being done to one's self. When you live your life having convinced yourself you're already dead it's easy to continue smoking. I am still vaping, but I am no longer a 2 pack a day smoker at 30. If you are trying to or planning to quit, you can. No matter how long you have or how much you do.

[@ANALBONES]

Forcing your fetish onto your unknowing partner is never okay, things like these should be completely consensual especially when it comes to paraphilias like these. The stories of the women persuading their partner into an addiction to please their own fetish is really fucked up, i feel like these types of things should be talked out with your partner and if they don't want to indulge in something that makes them uncomfortable you should respect that. It reminds me of a friend i had who had a partner who had a fetish for people crying and inappropriately got aroused and tried advancing on them when they were seriously hurting. There is a time and place for everything, even if some paraphilias are uncontrollable, you should be able to have at least SOME self control if you respect your partner and your relationship. Consent and respect is important!

[@pluto5577]

i cannot imagine throwing my entire life away for a fetish 💀💀

[@amp4105]

theyre real gooners

[@thestolenlemon]

as a smoker who has switched to vapes to slowly quit, i can’t even take a drag off a cigarette anymore unless i am absolutely mentally at a loss and need a drag. but the people who smoke while pregnant?? or smoke when they know they’re in poor health? it’s really sad and it’s a crippling addiction that’s all around us

[@frozenrozes7957]

smoker here, PLEASE dear children, don't start smoking please, it is so unimaginably hard to quit the longer you smoke. i have been smoking about 25 years now, tried quitting multiple times but always failed. please don't get yourself this curse. you are so much more precious remember that.

[@lowkeylola88]

having a loved one with incurable lung cancer, this was a tough watch. i can't imagine thinking like this.

[@dtwbtl]

This makes me so sad and angry. My mom died in her 30s when I was a kid, from breast cancer. She'd smoked her whole life, but the cancer likely was unrelated (both brca1 & 2 in our family). But still, she died a slow agonizing death and we had to watch. Then my mother in law died from lung cancer 10 years ago. She was also a lifelong smoker and her death was horrible and not at all romantic. It makes me sick to think people would fetishize their deaths in such a way.

[@EthanTheWerewolf]

I used to vape all the time when i was a young teen. Moms ex friend gave me a vape and would buy me vape pods. Im almost 20 and i still get INTENSE cravings. I hate it and have no clue how people ARE SEXUALLY AROUSED BY CIGARETTES AND NICOTINE

[@EthanTheWerewolf]

My friend's dad smokes a lot and the smell of smoke on him makes me really crave nicotine again

[@themoongateofficial]

To each their own, your lungs are probably thanking you much more than mine thank me , i understand why they say the best way to stop is to never stop

[@kaye507]

This strikes me as really similar to death feedism, it's basically the same fetish but with making yourself sick via smoking instead of gaining weight.

[@SkrapMetal84]

their is a massive youtube smoking community leathersmokemi was one such channel i think Nick Crowley talked about it.

[@so-calledpunk323]

Yeah, I think that guy died already hey?

[@SkrapMetal84]

@@so-calledpunk323 yep theirs also a few channels inspired by his smoking that have also died.

[@pinkdeviant]

Thank you for bringing awareness to this topic. It’s such a shame to see people doing this to themselves and becoming detached from feeling empathy for other addicts I wish you the best of luck with quitting the habit. My brother who’s 30 now just recently quit vaping a year ago after some struggling. He vaped through his 20s after smoking weed in college. Wishing you happiness and health

[@TheThinVeil_]

I felt that when you said you wish it was easy to quit vaping. Funny thing is, I started vaping to quit smoking lol.

[@wfjhDUI]

I love the way she says “baybay”.

[@snooganslestat2030]

When she 1st said smokers & others that smoke I heard others that smirk 🤣 I'm from the UK as she is but still.

[@isthisfake.]

i grew up with a heavy smoker. my dad would smoke at least a pack a day. ill never forget how awful i always smelled, nothing ever came close to that embarrassment of a kid asking, "what's that smell??" and knowing it was me. i have what is probably permanent breathing problems because of his smoking. though that may also be on account of the house fire he started when i was asleep because he was high. i struggle DAILY with my breathing because of it, the shortness of breath is literal hell. i have to have an inhaler. i cant emphasize enough the selfishness of choosing to smoke in public or with someone in your general vicinity. i suffer daily because of my dads actions.

[@RoseW0461]

getting asked as a 10 year old if you smoked by your peers is an insanely demeaning and isolating feeling

[@isthisfake.]

@@RoseW0461 i used to spray febreeze on my clothes in the hopes that the smell would go away and it DID NOT 😭😭 ironically i smelled more like cigarettes than kids who actually smoked

[@simi55mega]

I resonate with you❤

[@vhs3760]

It's kind of hot when a hot actor or model does a photoshoot with smoking.....but this is on some other level. I can't imagine finding the negative side effects of smoking sexy.

[@JustSomeBridgeTroll333]

Some of my favorite characters while growing up were rugged guys who smoked like a chimney (The Wolverine, Bigby Wolf, Hellboy) so I understand having it linked to something desirable. But I also grew up around smokers, so I was well aware of its consequences. The fact these people find the destruction most attractive is... heartbreaking.

[@folieadios]

i think these a lot of these long stories the users post are definitely fiction, like the one with a childhood best friend is really detailed and specific, definitely reads like creative writing

[@funnycomedymaster]

i find most reddit stories that are extremely descriptive like that are probably fake just because how do you manage to remember every mundane detail about what supposedly happened, especially if it happened long ago? this is common on subreddits like aita too where the story has so much exposition it doesn’t seem real anymore, and a lot of the sf stories read like those fake aita stories

[@HORIZONNNN]

This…this hits home. My grandmother died at the age of 70 in 2016 dude to rapid lung cancer. It started off mild cough, follow by unable to breathe while laying down. She was hospitalized on October 29th for a few weeks and then suddenly her lungs collapsed. She was out on life support because the cancer became so aggressive. She end up coding twice and passed in December 4th that same year. If my math is right, it took over a month to deteriorate. She was a chain smoker, smoking two maybe three a day. She had clot arteries requiring bypass surgeries and she still smoked. Everyone in my family didn’t understand how did she get to the final stages so soon and we all speculate that she hid the diagnosis from us or her PCP and other healthcare providers she saw just never noticed anything. She had multiple CTs, X-rays, bloodwork, you name it and no one saw an issue? It was very traumatic. It is true, Smokers are aware of the risks. Hell, I smoked cigarettes last year and I quit this passed December. I knew the risks and I knew I would end up like my grandma but I made the choice to stop because well, believe it or not, I got tired of seeing smoke clouds from cigarettes and vapes. 😂😂 But yeah, the whole point I guess I’m trying to make is that this is just traumatizing. This hurts not yourself but others around you. Your lungs are one of the organs you shouldn’t mess with. I personally believe people in that thread need some serious psychiatric help because I can never understand why people think wanting to damage your lungs is “hot”

[@raphaelle2197]

Watching this as a hypochondriac makes my head spin

[@cmarzz]

it feels wrong to hit my vape while watching this vid

[@tcl09110]

same lol

[@materhead5051]

Immediate like. No need to listen first.

[@raeraebadfingers]

Hell yeah, let's investigeht what's in my room while I listen to this as I clean my room. 😅

[@HouseCatTV]

This is all pretty horrifying. As someone with a semi-related SF (as an asexual, it's genuinely the only thing that arouses me), the things these people are doing are super terrible, especially the ones trying to get other people to take up the habit. And the fact they all encourage each other, this makes me so uncomfortable. Like, just because it gets you off doesn't mean it's a good thing. As someone whose Dad passed from smoking-related cancer, lemme tell you that I couldn't possibly imagine anyone in these communities truly understands what they're getting themselves into. My Dad didn't have lung cancer or emphysema. He got oesophageal cancer, was unable to eat enough food to stay healthy, and wasted away. Nothing to do with his lungs in the end - but it still killed him.

[@Beeadora]

Finna throw out my vape after this 💀

[@ladyreverie7027]

I used to have a pornstar friend who unfortunately is addicted to cigarettes. She would get commissions from smoking fetishists who loved to fantasize about her "killing herself slowly" with each cigarette. It was so disgusting and horrifying to think these people exist. My friend wasn't a smoking fetishist but she was aware of how she was self harming and didn't see how disturbing it was for people to be actively wanting her to suicide via cancer.

[@BDay90023]

(gross/gory content warning) my dad once knew a lady who claimed she had smoked so much that she had had a surgery that involved doctors cutting her open, splitting her lungs in half, scraping all the tar out, and putting them back in. who knows if that's even possible, but the fact that it's at all conceivable is horrifying to me. i hope that these people get some help or reassurance because I wouldn't want anyone to have to go through all the health issues that come with smoking.

[@PeachysMom]

I’m a doctor. That is not a thing that is ever done. Don’t worry ❤

[@pinklight]

My grandma died of emphysema when I was 4 and I have a strong memory of my dad (he sat with his mom for her last days) telling me she kept begging him to give her a cigarette while the hospital was sucking "black gunk" out of her lungs. I don't know if it's possible (or was possible in the 80s) to do that, or if my dad just said something about her lungs being full of black gunk and my 4-year-old brain conjured up an image that explained how he could know that, but I can see it so clearly in my mind's eye even now that I have never been tempted to try smoking. I've been aware of this subculture for years and every time I hear their stories it gives me the creeps.

[@realleon2328]

just when you think you've seen it all, internet investigator posts a new video

[@breilneen4103]

I was a pretty heavy smoker for about ten years. Quit the year my daughter was born. In november I'm clean for 7 years. One of the best decisions I've ever made. Yes, the health thing is a part of that, but not being a slave to that product anymore, not feeling that anxiety when unable to smoke, is an awesome thing to experience.

[@sophdog2564]

These are the people our parents warned us about as kids

[@extinctoart]

I work in a rest home and have taken care of a few people now who have died of COPD and lung cancer. What a terrible way to go Also afaict emphysema/COPD isn't curable, but cab certainly stop progressing and maybe lessen up when they quit.

[@HorsesArePeople2]

I know you have to say vaping is just as bad for liability reasons and stuff, but between smoking cigarettes and vaping, the Royal College of Physicians say that vaping is 95% better for you than smoking. Of course clean air is always going to be better than either of those, and there's no reason someone should vape if they aren't already smoking.

[@zoologygirl252]

You still run the risk of cancer with vaping but stand a better chance of surviving as it doesn't bake your lungs like smoke does and fill them with tar. If you use any kind of flavoring though you run the risk of popcorn lung. Point is, if you are smoking please switch to flavorless vape. You may give yourself a better chance

[@ZentaBon]

Imagine wanting an addiction...and imagine that's your kid...

[@hanabanana8127]

I'm 53 and much healthier now, but back when I was a smoker it was for these *exact* reasons. It's a startling thing to learn about yourself. The Smiths song "What She Said" has the line "What she said, I smoke because I'm hoping for an early death, and I need to cling to something" and I took that to heart. Fortunately the revulsion and actual, physical pain I felt about my throat and lungs in the mornings outweighed my addiction, and I was one of the lucky ones who was able to quit cold turkey from 2 packs of Marlboro Reds/Camel unfiltered a day. Back in the 80s/early 90s it was profoundly easy to get cigarettes. People would even send their little kids down the road to the store to get them. Crazy stuff.

[@anjachan]

if smoking would only effect the smoker I would not care about it ... but my neighbour is getting on my nerves with his coughing and I smell his smoke up to my balcony. His door is yellow, it´s horrible.

[@j.p.giambalvo1123]

I'm in the same boat. My next door neighbors are really nice but they smoke and if I am trying to sleep with the window open to get some fresh air, sometimes they come out in the middle of the night, 3:00 in the morning, and the smoke just comes up and fills my bedroom and I wake up coughing and wheezing. It's horrible.

[@anjachan]

@@j.p.giambalvo1123 I don´t even like him. He´s a horrible person. very aggressive.

[@Genesisorgin]

@j.p.giambalvo1123 maybe try asking them to smoke somewhere else and explaining to them why I'm sure they will understand if they are nice people

[@anjachan]

@@Genesisorgin he´s not nice! He gets aggressive.

[@lastilnovista]

i smoked a pack a day for ten years, and during one particularly stressful week of my life, i smoked 2 packs/day. but this level of addiction is mind-boggling to me. i can’t fathom how one even has the TIME to smoke 4 to 5 packs/day? i would joke that it’s “jobless behaviour,” but cigarettes are extremely expensive! when i quit smoking in 2004, cigarettes were $7.50/pack in NYC and over £5/pack in the UK, already quite expensive on an average middle-class salary. today they are $13 in NYC and £16 in the UK. at that point you might as well switch to cocaine . . . barring all the horrible health problems and social consequences, i just don’t see how a habit like this is even economically sustainable for most people? everything about this is wild to me, and the grossness of it all is the *least* crazy part 🙃🙃🙃

[@obvioustroll8181]

The ones with the person pressuring another person is absolutely disgusting. No matter what substance I'm using I would NEVER want to pressure someone else and I'll assert myeelf into the situation if I witness such peer pressure. Totally disgraceful.

[@skyepilot4074]

Thank you for this video. Recently I've been nostalgic about my past and wanting to try smoking. My father who passed was a smoker. And I keep feeling compelled to smoke even though I haven't yet. This video is a good reminder for me to not start despite the urge I feel to start.

[@BlueMoonSamurai]

I thank my parents or my hatred of cigarettes for different reasons. I idealized my dad and so if he hated cigarettes, I did too. My mom constantly smoked. It was worse after my parents divorced and she eventually smoked inside (dont worry, she opened a window and put a fan in it 🙄).

[@Wojacksamillion]

I now want to quit more than I have ever before. Wish me luck

[@Orelganic]

The posts about getting other people to smoke and get addicted are fucking disgusting. They're giggling about ruining people's health and lives just because it gets them off. That's so manipulative and vile

[@BlackReshiram]

i grew up w a mom whos a smoking addict, and have never myself smoked and dont ever plan to. but because the passive smoking i was sort of forced to endure until age 11 when i was got out and into foster care system in germany for other reasons, the doctor could already see the tar on my lungs at age 14. i had trouble breathing. i didnt want this. i still love my mom deeply and shes trying to quit and im very proud of her for that. but it still sucks. at least it seems my lungs were largely able to recover ever since i didnt have to spend every waking second in smoker environment anymore.

[@dirtyfrenchiee4725]

The guy who got his girlfriend addicted to smoking is so disturbing to me. There is something so gross and violating about not disclosing that kind of fetish to your partner and then knowingly getting them to partake in it. Just leaves me with a sick feeling.

[@oneofdanhowellschins]

I feel like this is some weird twilight zone thing. How can anyone SERIOUSLY look at a pair of tar lungs, yellow teeth, fucked up nails and say: “damn that’s hot, I want that”

[@shrimpyalfredo3933]

Smoking addiction is so scary. My sister in law couldn't quit smoking while pregnant, and her kid ended up developing cancer as a toddler, and is slow developing mentally. Its sad.

[@davedangerous2012]

I've stopped smoking 🚭 I was a smoker for 15 years... I feel SO much better now days! Sometimes I think I forgot how it feels to be able to actually take a deep breath of fresh air.

[@Kainlarsen]

I have little to no sympathy for the people on this subreddit. And those who actively tried to get friends, partners or family, hooked on smoking should be sent to jail at the very least.

[@josedorsaith5261]

Instagram & Facebook found that mental illnesses spread quickest by social media groups This subreddit reminds me of the old pro-anorexia groups. Like a mind-virus

[@jpf1974]

Oh please. Jail? I’m sure you had a friend or friends when you were growing up who smoked and offered you a cigarette.

[@tseissi]

the main thing that fucks me up about this is lack of consent. getting off on influencing other people to smoke is using someone for your fetish without their consent. especially when this involves relatives, younger people, even babies, it is incredibly alarming. It's not like people choose their fetishes, but you have the control to ensure anyone you're involving is consenting. if this were a different fetish and people were involving children and relatives and other unwilling participants, it would be sexual assault.

[@zoologygirl252]

And here we thought all those anti peer pressure psas were total jokes. There are really people out there like that wanting to watch you destroy your lives

[@pinklight]

My dad's parents and brothers all died of smoking-related illnesses by the time I was 10 (I'm the oldest child). All of them begged for cigarettes from their deathbeds, according to my dad, and the anger is so clear in his eyes when he talks about them choosing cigarettes over knowing the family he and my mom were creating. I can't imagine wishing for an addiction like that.

[@jumjummy4614]

The people who try and get others addicted for their own gratification reminds me of feeders - the way the deterioration of someone elses health gets them off is horrifying and borders on murderous tbh

[@joonlovescrabs]

I’m 17 and my mom passed away a little over six months ago on october twelfth, 2023. Stage 4 breast cancer that spread everywhere, especially her lungs. She smoked when i was like 2 but quit. There is nothing like watching your mom struggle with oxygen, draining her lungs at the kitchen table and watching the juice slowly get bloodier and bloodier and full of pus. She cried out of desperation when she couldn’t breathe from something as simple as walking back to bed from the bathroom. She officially died from cancer related hypoxia. She was maxed out on oxygen at the hospital and still had o2 levels in the 60s-70s. I don’t wish this on anyone. There’s no reason a 15-17 year old girl should have to bandage her mom’s lung drains for her and watch her deteriorate. She had cancer for 11 years. I could go on about it for days. Cancer patients tend to lose weight, but the fluid build up in her body made her bloated and looked pregnant. The first dead body i saw was my mom. Bald, hospital gown, bloated, rigor mortis, nostrils huge and expanded because of the many oxygen machines she was on that were taken out. the silence after hearing her oxygen for so long. her closed eyes with no eyelashes. her cold face. cold bald head. i knew it was her but it just didn’t feel right. She was bald since i was ~14. It’s the majority of what i remember of her. It’s hard to remember things from when she had her long dark hair. She was my best friend. I can’t imagine what it would’ve looked like if we had gotten an autopsy.

[@Jkk55]

I started smoking young but gave up years ago but I have COPD now I would not wish it on anyone 😢thank you for highlighting this 👏👏👏👏

[@redwoodclimber]

My god these stories are so disturbing, idk if I can finish this one tbh

[@GhoulishDays]

My dad smoked while I grew up, it was horrible. He would get angry and always be in a bad mood unless he had a cigarette, he never smoked inside but we could still smell it, all over his clothes, in his bed. The bedsheets and pillows on his side of the bed turned yellow from the stuff that seeped out of his pores. And when he started smoking worse because of stress at his job, he’d constantly be coughing, hacking, and spitting out black phlegm. As a 12 year old, this was terrifying to see. A few times he coughed so hard he passed out when my brother and I were home alone with him and we were so scared, we didn’t know what to do. I’m so happy he finally stopped, but it makes me disgusted with people like this, that they get off on the pain of not only the smoker but the people around them, especially children.

[@stan8479]

My mother and sister are both asthmatic chainsmokers, addicted with no recovery in sight (my sis has tried thrice, and had a relapse every since time). They are the reason my current home is unliveable, because the smoke is unbearable. It gets in my clothes and hair even when I wash them, and my (severely chronically ill!) girlfriend is very sensitive to the smoke particles. Seeing people romanticise the terrifying reality I live whilst knowing my mom's lungs are on the verge of collapsing and my girlfriend is stuck in her own disabled body makes me angry, probably beyond reason. I hold nothing but contempt for the people who think this is fun or sexy, for the people who think destroying their bodies is a hobby.

[@killoet]

I am so concerned as to what happened to the pregnant woman and her unborn child in the last post.

[@whatwhy2385]

i used to be addicted to poppers or amyl nitrate, and the reason I couldnt quit was because of the sexual connotation with them and the videos people made encouraging you to use, push yourself, and become worse. No matter how hard I tried to kick the addiction whenever I would be trying to jack off I would think about using because the 2 were unfortunately linked. My lungs would hurt so much the next day I would have to stay home from school and work. I will say i was originally groomed into using them at first, people pressuring me to use, but the parallels between the communities online of popper use to push yourself to use more and become worse and this subreddit is very striking to me.

[@gasolinecake]

this feels a lot like feeder and obesity fetishists. being obese and being smokers are taboo due to their self destructive nature, and because of that the “forbiddenness” of the two things can morph into a fetish. the way the one girl was trying to force someone else to smoke for her pleasure reminded me of the “feeders” who force feed someone else copious amounts of unhealthy food to make them obese, romanticizing things like immobility and heart problems.

[@brutal-doom]

an hr+ long upload ??? SAY LESSSSS, I'M SAT

[@Coyoteonthemoon]

These people who WANT COPD or cancer make me sick. I've lost an aunt to lung cancer misdiagnosed as COPD and am now watching my grandpa slowly deteriorate despite being treated for his COPD after decades of smoking (10 years since he + my mom quit

[@Lovecrafts_c4t]

Jesus... this is suicide being romanticized. Used to smoke cigarettes, switched to vaping and decreased the nicotine slowly. Just the switch to a vape after 3 days i was shocked how taking a breath actually felt... my stamina increasing and being able to do more. never start smoking.

[@kayleewilliams1232]

Your videos are still the highlight of my day! Keep making more!

[@TheInternetInvestigator]

Always 😄🖤

[@rubycube1506]

So, I've been one of those casual smokers age 15 to 31. And then menthols were banned in my country and I quit. Now there are vapes with flavor and I wished I never got a thing for it. I was vaping very heavily for two weeks and then got my first asthma attack in 8 years. 😅 I quit again. Craving the substance that made you addicted is the worst. It never goes away.