Ranking 80s Franchises (That Won't Die) - A Tier List

[@THEdanieljohnson94]

Easily the most deranged tier list they've done yet. Vague concept, Inconsistent/incomprehensible judging criteria? 10/10 carry on lads

[@distantignition]

I would be disappointed if they produced S-tier tier lists.

[@noisepuppet]

Sorry, the answer is: the movie "Joker" starring Joaquin Phoenix

[@mahna_mahna]

Poor Back tot he Future got robbed with the great shift. They weren't just one good one but two great ones and one good one. But hey, they don't make the rules.

[@Peeps7468]

I stopped trying to figure out how they were doing this by the time they hit Willow. I really needed this laugh😂

[@theomnitorium7476]

Shifting the whole thing down three tiers at the end absolutely killed me :D

[@TheRedMammoth]

I liked that Rocky was mentioned in passing, and then never ranked or even thought of again

[@mrsundaymovies]

Started in the 70s. We don't make the rules

[@danielphilps4106]

@mrsundaymovies yes you do

[@jasoncarter1869]

​​@@mrsundaymoviesI'll assume that Ben made this response because you guys famously don't read the comments. Hey Ben.

[@stephenocalla3708]

Actually Matt edited this one so less likely to be Ben. Generally Ben and Lawrence do Caravan of Garbage​, Matt does editorials + tier lists style stuff, RAWCollings (Rob Collins) does the Podcast and other videos. I can't say who does what for Big Sandwich stuff as I'm not a subscriber but there are other collaborators that the teamwork with for stuff like the 16bit videos and Comic COG episodes. @@jasoncarter1869

[@masterxak]

​@@mrsundaymoviesgood job sticking to the rules or Star Wars would have been mentioned and that would just derail the whole even more than it already is.

[@BaronVonHardcharger]

OH man, I hope that the lads do a tier list of the all-time best and worst of their own tier lists! Like, opinions change over time... Do they STILL think the same of what they did before? The world needs to know.

[@Thatfantasyfootballchick]

As long as Corn of Coblin is still S tier

[@dbagette]

Would be a good year in review vid. All the tier lists pls!

[@guillaumelagueyte1019]

This one specifically would be an A tier, which would name it a D, maybe?

[@f1jones544]

Genius

[@adder2488]

Too much work!

[@kingfield99]

James' eternal love for all things Ghostbusters is a joy for the world.

[@mahadmubbasher]

The edit and the timing on the Beverly Hills Cop “there was a pause” being accompanied by a freeze frame on “directed by John Landis” was so perfectly, wonderfully upsetting. Bravo, Matt

[@RusPitman]

Killer joke

[@LeonHorsman]

Man, the Conan extended universe is wild

[@Jaydee8652]

The Conaniverse Extended Universe has more connections than you would think at first glance,

[@Siresly]

The Conan canon.

[@TupocalypseShakur]

The original stories had Conan meet Brazilian natives, in Ireland

[@videogamenostalgia]

@@Siresly The Conon

[@lovesigurd6183]

Conan is really broad as a franchise. I think the originals crossed over with Lovecraft. And nowadays he's on the Avengers, or atleast he was

[@cbobschloss]

Wow, I can't wait to listen to the Snake Eyes review next week on The Weekly Planet Podcast!

[@sampsonvassallo795]

Thank you Mr.Sunday for another movies

[@chrisgregg2092]

Wow, this list went off the rails real fast. LOL! Good job!

[@Rass17]

I am a guy James’ age or above and I am furious.

[@adamkhant2865]

But are you fast? Fast and furious maybe?

[@MiracleChips]

@@adamkhant2865you may not know this, but that was the name of a movie

[@claytonandres1194]

Great edit in the first two seconds right out the gate, excellent work!

[@liovino]

I agree as a transformers fan that a lot of older TF media isn't great, but using beast wars as an example is a BOLD move

[@MINTY_FN]

Beast Wars is very "you had to be there". Honestly goes with a lot of Rainmaker's CGI shows of that era like Reboot. It's a pretty tough sell to anybody who is too young to have seen them at the time because they have visually aged pretty badly and if you weren't a kid at the time and grew up with 80s Transformers then you'd probably "grown out of it" by the time it came out. Beast Wars was very much ahead of its time but it was like 10 years too early for TV CGI to actually start looking decent. Looks a lot better than Energon though, oh boy.

[@everettharris967]

The Max Rockatansky-verse is legit S tier. Max Max may have been released in 79 but it didn't get released in the US until 1980. I absolutely consider this an 80s franchise that at worst has 1 good movie (Thunderdome) and everything else is great.

[@saoirsedeltufo7436]

... so it's a 70s franchise, since it started in the 70s?

[@MattMcIrvin]

Yeah, I mean, Beyond Thunderdome got crapped on when it came out but at worst it's just a little sillier than the rest of the series. And Fury Road was a stunning piece of work, the kind of reboot/revival you expect to suck but it just blew you away, acting like the franchise had just momentarily stepped out for a smoke instead of being on hiatus for decades.

[@MINTY_FN]

James and Mason are aussies so when it came out in the US isn't going to be hugely relevant.

[@drive-incinemapictures1554]

I think I speak for everyone when I say this channel should review ALL of the Nightmare on Elm Street films.

[@timothylewis2527]

RoboCop showed up during a wrestling program and saved Sting from being locked up in a cage (Possibly forever). S-Tier

[@jamesgreen9480]

I thought you meant sting from the police and was very disappointed when I looked it up

[@verynuggable]

Sting is in the Police. Robocop is a police. This makes sense

[@MrYin90210]

Would rather rewatch that than Robocop 3

[@logd27]

GO GET ‘EM ROBOCOP

[@jasper_of_puppets]

I was waiting for them to show that clip of Robo on WCW

[@TimTheInspector]

8:12 is fightin words. Almost rage quit right there but then remembered you guys are the best

[@EPICMAN_3D]

We will know that something has gone terribly wrong if one day they do Snake Eyes 😂

[@maximeguilbault6893]

Will be studio interference

[@Chancetstcab44]

it took me this long to realize its an ongoing joke i feel so stupid 😂

[@DPerez3573]

I'm very certain, if and when they decided to end this podcast, Snake Eyes will be the last movie reviewed

[@sneakysimian717]

This was the worst tier list I’ve ever seen. I’ve never been so upset to see some of my most beloved franchises be so disrespected. Great video boys! Keep it up!

[@Crocogator]

Can agree with Die Hard 4. It's really enjoyable stuff. And yes, killing a helicopter with a car is peak.

[@Logan5]

I was originally going to ask "Where's Highlander?", but the further I got in the video, the more I think I've passed out huffing glue 😂

[@stevenlennie]

No Predator?!?!?!

[@TheDarkNateReturns]

Rambo 5: Home Stallone

[@adamplentl5588]

You just don't turn it off!!!

[@s1ckboirari]

Stallone is just building his new house then bowie knifes some crook drug dealers in his suburban neighbourhood

[@futurestoryteller]

Robocop belongs there because it's satire, Terminator because it's popcorn entertainment, Aliens and Predator for similar reasons, but Rambo devolving into unintended self-parody is the sole reason he belongs in Mortal Kombat. He decapitates a man with a hunting knife!? Fatality!

[@saintniccage2818]

Pay money 4 this now

[@thewatchtower4949]

Kinda funny how so many of these legacy franchises are just kind of dottering around with cinematic memory loss, just doing the same things over and over again

[@mrpalaces]

What do you mean, Die Hard has never been done in an office building

[@MiddleAgedNerd]

James and Maso's banter over their opposing Ghostbusters opinions never gets old either here or on the podcast.

[@CriticsCupofficial]

Show Waspinator the respect he deserves 😠😤

[@Azaul]

Right? Mason says Transformers media is awful and the example they show is Waspinator in all his glory?

[@alexkeenan5201]

@@Azaul And he admits that G1 is mostly garbage, yet the editor shows a clip from probably the most consistently good Transformers cartoon? Smh some people just don't know Trans-lore.

[@Long_Shot_Media]

Replies in Megatron "Yes"

[@Decipher13]

Beast Wars was genuinely great. The restraints of primitive CGI meant they couldn’t afford lots of flashy action, which meant they were forced to do a lot of character driven drama surprisingly deep story lines. The character development was great and the connection to G1 lore was fun to explore.

[@adootledo]

Glad to see some love for Terminator: Sarah Connor Chronicles.

[@slothomatic]

The end of this episode is brilliant. Moving everything down and then doubting all your ranking was honestly hilarious.

[@TupocalypseShakur]

The saddest thing about GI Joe was when a Transformers twitter page made an April fools joke about audiences being disappointed about their appearance in ROTB and people agreed

[@buxzw1945]

11:34 Beast Wars is the best Transformers property, and I can't be convinced otherwise... mainly because it is the only one I have watched.

[@TheChristoJones]

I love these Troll/tier lists. Struck the perfect balance of generating outrage clicks, while being entirely authentic and sincere about the process of creating a nonsensical tier list to generate outrage clicks. Keep it up!

[@sternonisoil]

Every once and a while I forget that James and Maso are just ridiculous trolls and then they roll out a video like this to remind me.

[@JacobSampsonTV]

“Move everything down three” was chaotic and I love it

[@slothomatic]

Glad you mentioned The Sarah Connor Chronicles. That series was absolutely fantastic.

[@kurtshastany1945]

They completly forgot about predator and ninja turtles and heman

[@passionrocket]

And Rocky and Alien (ok technically the 70s)

[@kurtshastany1945]

@@chrisnotyou 80s franchises isn't specific to films. HE man originated in the 80s, has had 4 tv shows, two movies, although one was animated, a christmas special several video games and many many toys.... it fits the theme of the video completely

[@LeftoverBeefcake]

Also Police Academy, which had 7 movies, a television series and an animated series!

[@escargoat8552]

Lack of TMNT is crazy.

[@futurestoryteller]

I generally agree with their final assessment, most of these franchises are garbage as franchises. Ninja Turtles has impressive staying power, but I only have a modest affinity for it. Predator though gets to be completely redeemed by Prey.

[@bradpoynting4691]

I like how they got to the end and were like, "wait a minute, we hate this" and still put the video out. "Should we fix no?" "NO! PUBLISH VIDEO!!"

[@Monkeymosh]

This is how I feel about 90's video games. (Resident Evil, Tekken, Mortal Combat, MGS, Final Fantasy, Zelda.) Some of these are 80's (and great) but they just keep making sequels and remakes and it's doing my head in a bit.

[@elbaecc]

Terminator franchise getting S-Tier in spite of the recent lackluster sequels and quasi-reboots, etc is a testament to how good the first two movies are.

[@maritimeretro2855]

very amusing banter as always chaps

[@messi5junior]

didn't expect to hear some Conan love here. knew there was a good reason I liked you two

[@NILgravity]

Lethal Weapon should be bumped up because with the sequels HBO put out mockumentary behind the scenes movies. I still crack up to this day over the "quitters" skit they randomly put in it.

[@MattMcIrvin]

Conan O'Brien had an early bit called "the idiots making fun of my name", which was these three guys calling him endless variations on "Conan the [X]Arian": "Hey Conan! Conan the Vegetarian! Where's your arugula? Yeah, where's your tofu dogs?" etc. etc. Robocop and Ghostbusters should definitely be on the same level, whatever that is: "the first one was good, nothing else really captured the magic but the TV adaptation had its moments".

[@futurestoryteller]

I always tell people that the only fictional thing that felt like I was given PTSD while watching it is the death of Glenn on The Walking Dead, but I forget about a lot of things from when I was younger. I've only sen Robocop twice but the scene where he's shot to oblivion felt traumatizing both times, somehow. To be fair the first time I was like 9.

[@radioaftermaththeband]

Finally getting that Snake Eyes review. Just need the Red Dwarf ep now...

[@seant4089]

The Always Sunny additions to the Lethal Weapon franchise werent factored in. Easily S tier 😂

[@jonbaxter2254]

Yes, The Sarah Connor Chronicles deserves all the love! Was so good.

[@oliversacco7320]

Terminator 3 with the Arnold commentary is amazing 😍

[@futurestoryteller]

You watch interviews with him and he actually seems really smart for his political persuasion, I can't help but wonder if he was drunk during that commentary track

[@oliversacco7320]

@@futurestoryteller I don't think he is dumb I just think he doesn't understand what a commentary should be lol 😆 and he's f****** Marlon Brando level compared to like Steven seagull

[@danielnugent6545]

If RoboCop is so bad, how did it have the power to disrupt the entire ranking system? Also, James is beating that Ghostbusters horse so hard it's going to come back as a ghost horse and haunt his family.

[@keatonr782]

Hahahaha omg 😂

[@michaelbiscay9836]

Whichever editor put that microphone in front of Schwarzenegger for his "podcast".... *chef's kiss* 😂

[@tjtacolover]

The fact that Back To The Future wasn’t immediately plugged into the spot that it landed in, and there was a second of hesitation is bound to infuriate folks on its own. 9:39

[@karlbarx1819]

I truly appreciate a tier list where you disagree with your own choices before you're even done. Funny video as always

[@stevecole90099]

You guys should redo this but have two lists, one for the start of the franchise (first movie, first show, toy line, etc.) and then one for the remainder of the franchise. Really show which ones tried to be a franchise vs which ones kept trying to milk a golden goose.

[@trevorghalt1881]

James: I don't hate Ghostbusters I really like the first one but I don't like the second, third, fourth, fifth most of the cartoons probably the comics and the fans... but other than that I like it

[@HarryBuddhaPalm]

He's not wrong, though.

[@SergioMendoza760]

I’m really glad Rambo was mentioned. Rambo 4 was the first one I ever watched of that entire franchise, I was WAY to young to be watching it and was definitely around 7-8 years old but my uncle and grandfather at the time didn’t think anything of it when I was watching it with them. But My god the scene with Rambo just mowing down all those men in the turret was absolutely brain melting for me at the time I don’t think I’d ever seen anything so wildly violent lol. And it’s not just that scene the entire movie is pretty damn brutal especially when you’re a kid just seeing pure carnage like that on screen.

[@chrisw6164]

Good thing they only made one Ghostbusters movie.

[@kingkeir13]

Snake eyes review finally!

[@PandaColours]

Beast Wars catching some strays in this video. I don't care what anyone says. That show had heart. Really kicked into gear after the first season. Reboot too while we're at it. Those two were my childhood late night double feature on YTV.

[@christianrodriguezfromthev9318]

I can’t wait for the 80s sequel on 2080!!! Missed the first one hopefully I’ll be able to make the next!

[@dustintirey6122]

Wow! Putting a video out on a Sunday? How very odd of you, MR. SUNDAY!

[@studentessentials4738]

And the consistency with the snake eyes bit 😂😂 got me good

[@johnskrip7174]

11:28 😂 Always weird and always hilarious

[@LizzyVonBloom]

We need a comprehensive, feature-length Star Wars character tier list

[@emilybell7842]

I know the rule against books on Cog, but if you ever did include them, the Blade Runner sequel books are tremendously, amazingly shitty. Love them.

[@devinthunderstrike]

These rankings are bonkers!

[@nickhatesyoutubechanges]

Glad to hear you are finally doing Snake Eyes!

[@Psilocybin77]

This is the funniest tier list I've seen. That ending lol.

[@PlatinumPaladin]

After the unhinged reasoning behind this video, I think you should do a tier ranking video of all your tier ranking videos. I'm a lifelong Transformers fan as well, who wholeheartedly loves Beast Wars (a curse on whoever decided to include THAT clip as an example of poor media), but to rank it based on the toys and not the media..... Madness. Ghostbusters probably had the second or third best set of toys from any of these franchises, but that didn't pull them up. Bravo to James for saying the original Top Gun isn't great. Lot of rose-tinted spectacles with that one.

[@aaronj235]

You guys are totally takin a piss, and I'm here for it

[@futurestoryteller]

I think they're being as serious as you can be about 80's excess and its contributions to and ongoing relationship with late stage capitalism

[@enbytoon]

Snake Eyes: forever next week on the podcast :’)

[@Luxington1]

I just got First Blood from the Library the other day, and was excited to read it. Thanks for the spoiler ya dang Ausie.

[@dstoaster]

Rambo at D tier is crazy

[@mooseitself]

I have left this questioning your tastes and your sanity. Keep up the good work!

[@brantelope5257]

I’m excited that they’re finally getting around to reviewing Snake Eyes next week!

[@godlaydying]

In Robert E. Howard's stories, King Kull lived in the same 'continuity' as Conan, but thousands of years before.

[@himonightbreeze]

There was also a Back to the Future card game from the people that make Fluxx. The basic premise is that you and the other players are decedents of characters from the main series, each with a card that tells you what changes you need to make to the timeline (as represented by a grid of other cards) in order to win or have Doc Brown uninvent time travel. Unfortunately, it's out of print, so I may have to dig around in my mom's shed for my copy.

[@milou66]

I know you guys have a blindspot for STAR TREK, but they put out five films in the 80s, THIRTEEN in total so far (with one on the way), and ELEVEN TV series, (with one on the way). Whatever you think of ST, that's gotta make it the king of all 80s fanchises that just won't die, even bigger than STAR WARS, which, I would argue, should also have been on the list.

[@MattMcIrvin]

I think they'd count that as a 60s franchise, though it was in the 80s that it was really established that they could keep this going forever.

[@barghest94]

Why would you consider it an 80's franchise though? And Star Wars began in the 70's.

[@MattMcIrvin]

@@barghest94 I can kind of see it. In the 60s, it was a TV show that got cancelled after the third season. In the 70s, it was this nerd cult phenomenon that eventually spawned a critically panned huge-budget movie, one that did make money but not as much as they'd hoped. But in the 80s, it turned into a sustainable movie franchise and then a sustainable TV franchise, and that's where all modern Star Trek basically originates.

[@milou66]

@@barghest94 Because everyone thought it was dead, so ST: The Motion Picture was a rebirth. And it came out in Dcember '79, which is definitely the 80's.

[@milou66]

Because it wasn't a franchise until The Motion Picture.

[@Stanwood32]

Great episode. Lethal Weapon TV series was actually great in the first two seasons. Clayne Crawford played an excellent Riggs. Unfortunately it was Damon Wayans who made life terrible for everyone on set. He never wanted to do the show in the first place.

[@stevecole90099]

Lethal Weapon was great. Crawford played an excellent Riggs, even better than Gibson. From what I read, Wayans had issues with Crawford after an episode where Crawford directed due to Crawford being pushy while directing and that caused the replacement as Wayans was the harder character to replace. This is such a dumb thing to happen and I can't really blame Wayans for it as nobody is really going to have a good time going into work one day and having to deal with their coworker being their boss suddenly for a few days.

[@Stanwood32]

@@stevecole90099 he really was awesome. Damon acted like this unfortunately most of the series. Check out Clayne’s interview explaining really what happened. He’s a pretty down to earth guy. kzbin.info/www/bejne/q2qTaZ5_ls9kaLcsi=o8Q9KEBKzIbdgZc2

[@Born2beSPRA]

I love this mess and I did a lot of eyebrows raising through and enjoying knowing it was going to piss people off until lethal weapon and James and Maso got me up in arms I love you guys

[@vshazam]

Gremlins 2 is so underrated. The Abe Lincoln joke is brilliant

[@Statsy10]

Gremlins 2 is an atrocity. Movies shouldn't parody themselves.

[@DSWYFT]

Beast wars slander is never EVER ok. Even if Waspinator has one of the most grating voices ever lmao.

[@peteharper3299]

I would like to see a ranking/tier list of Mr Sunday Movies ranking/tier lists. This one might be a C. D.

[@johnnyperozo2987]

Ah, yes. Another Tierlist which slowly and steadily descends into madness. Great Job, everybody

[@IsaacSurf735]

when you both said "I don't like ghostbusters" the advert for the new Ghostbusters film interrupted the video

[@stevanbradic7043]

Oh man, it was at first all wrong, but by the end you got some right, so I am not as angry as I was in the beginning 😵‍💫 all in all: good job!

[@pMiguelSc]

I've never agreed more with a ranking video

[@bwalton81]

They’ve done it! Engagement off the roof with everyone disagreeing with the tier list. Did I agree with any ranking, no. But did I enjoy this video, absolutely, S tier.

[@seth5529]

I am upset, outraged, and shocked! Just what I come here for cheers lads

[@Itsgriffeys]

Gremlins the new batch isnt just a parody: its a solid Gremlin flick and can be scary. I always think of the guy who is activelylaughing about how silly and nonsensical the rules are, before a Gremlin launches out of a control panel and starts eating his neck. Gremlins is S Teir anything

[@danrandlehandle]

Thanks Jason and Mames I really do like this video (I pressed the button)

[@mendo35]

Can we have a list on Melbourne's tram routes?

[@tigrezangel]

Rambo also had a cartoon series. I agree with your ranking. You guys can't do no wrong.

[@Klik-Klak83]

I’ve been listening through the weekly planet from the start, and last night I listened to like the 7th or 8th episode, and mason said the EXACT SAME THING about the Widows Peak making Bruce Willis look like a tired man. That was so weird, it threw me off for a second😂

[@IndianaKong95]

Okay, but Back to the Future had no diminishing returns. It maintains S-tier status, everything else shift down three!

[@CurryFeatures]

Oh nice! Snake Eyes review next week!

[@TheBenji800]

Lethal Weapon gets an S for the always sunny sequels.

[@Bummerofabirthmark]

There was a great Back to the Future game on the Amiga I remember.

[@owensreviews625]

I’d love to see them do a tier list of weekly planet running gags.

[@RusPitman]

This video is built for engagement, amazing work. Also ninja turtles are S tier

[@Perrineaf]

Beast Wars was awesome

[@damianbennett1214]

Maso's self realization at the end of the video is truly why we're all here.

[@re1010]

I put Indiana Jones at S, because it actually knows which direction to go and what needs changing. Unlike Terminator, which stays the course regardless of the times.

[@JamesGriffinSpiteHouse]

Literally laughed out loud at “Die Hard but in an office building”.