Reacting to your MOST CONTROVERSIAL Formula 1 Opinions

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[@kaneworthington]

Tommo: "Where would Kyvat be now if Max hadn't come in?" Me: "Still with Kelly Piquet"

[@andyvettel4375]

Nah ,max has Nothing to do with it , max started dating Kelly after one year of the divorce

[@een4964]

According to Kelly, Kyvat was the one who cheated so Max isn't the homewrecler if that's the situation.

[@kre4ture218]

I thought the same thing

[@greenhowze]

@adrian A Unless it's a classic, numbers matching, beauty with that unique something , that gives you that "special feeling" none of the other conveyor belt built cars can give you.. Maybe he just has a better eye for cars than you do? It seems he's gotten himself well maintained, frequently serviced and driven with care specimen and not a high maintenance barnyard find project car, so he might have gotten a steal! It is too bad the previous owner started to neglect her and stopped servicing and driving her. I think it is good she has now gone into more caring hands and gets the love a classic beauty like that deserves and with propper care and handling she will give him many more miles and excitement in years to come. If anything, Max knows how to get the best performance out of a car and has the tire management skills to gets them over the finish line more often than Kvyat and with more success too. ;)

[@MKRCinema]

@adrian A 😂

[@pratishchadha2601]

Prost isn't respected as much in the Alpine team as Niki was in Mercedes .

[@pixelboujee]

Wait till alpine wins a WC then it will be the same lol

[@MrBlazemaster525]

Prost doesn't contribute a quarter of what Niki did at Merc Granted that's because Cyril was an absolute nitwit

[@kevinhanandi]

Simply because alpine hasn't achieved much

[@redlightning2322]

Niki also owned part of the team and was CEO of the F1 team.

[@aydankhaliq2967]

And prost was fired because he slept with his bosses wife "allegedly".

[@olipapa7436]

I see the similarity between Ricciardo and Montoya. Likeable, exciting drivers, big balls divebomb, championship materials, sadly, they both peaked during a 7-time champion dominance

[@rifath8152]

But then they joined McLaren

[@dbabu51]

Omg ricciardo is the Montoya of the modern era

[@Hibernathan05]

Honestly, their situations are very similar. But it’s just a shame that I think we will get strong Max Verstappen dominance once Hamilton retires

[@patrikjansen7831]

I agree but they still have very different temperaments

[@jt248]

I hope danny ric comes to NASCAR then. He would fit in perfectly

[@lorenzofurlan5237]

Carlos sainz is the most underrated driver in the grid. Carlos has joined a new team and hasn’t even dropped his pace, and is not even nearly as talked about as lando or Pierre. My boy needs more respect

[@DimitarFCBM]

Aged like milk

[@rbdriftin]

The Yuki hype is only riding on that first race. Everything else since then has been a disappointment. I really want him to do well but he keeps messing up.

[@MootingInsanity]

I love Japanese people as much as anyone can without diving into weebery, but I really wonder why they tend to disappoint in F1. Are they just the counterpoint to Finns? It must be Tengri's revenge for the whole kamikaze thing.

[@MrBlazemaster525]

That off at Imola's shook him up

[@steez8902]

He got way too much attention for the wrong things since then

[@andyvettel4375]

@@MootingInsanity I hope you remember someone called Kamui Kobayashi , he was the thing at his time at Sauber , people still love him due to his amazing performances at sauber

[@luccass6793]

I wanted to see Yuki a second year in F2 to mature as a driver while Gasly and Albon fight to keep the AT seat

[@goofry_]

Hot take: The Red Bull Young Driver Programme has helped F1 across all teams. Yes they don't keep drivers long at the senior team but look at Monaco just gone, 5 of the top 6 finishing drivers are currently contracted by the Austrian drinks firm or have been contracted

[@Brenooliveira8989]

I don't get why people hate on the RB driver program,just look at how many drivers got into F1 by it,some even had a chance in a top tier car. If the driver can't get his shit together and drive a tricky car,that's his fault,not Red Bull.

[@lucas_13.]

@@Brenooliveira8989 I don't think people hate the program, they hate the fact that rb kills them after it

[@Brenooliveira8989]

@@lucas_13. Do they though?Gasly,Sainz and Ricciardo are still around. Kvyat and Albon might still get a car to drive next year and other drivers like Vergne,Buemi and others have their careers settled at the top level of other categories. I don't think RB program "kills" any driver,after all F1 is still a sport,a sport with only 20 possible athletes,not everyone can be a Hulkenberg to stay a decade there without delivering results.

[@flojeron2013]

Thank you!! RB academy gets so much shit, even though it it’s one of the best things to happen to F1. Why is it so hard to accept that Albon and Gasly didn’t deliver and were demoted (even kept Gasly in AT and he is hot property now). And Kvyat was in F1 since 2014 and even though he is a good driver, he just wasn’t that good enough to keep him for another year. He never really showed true promise to be great

[@formulafish1536]

Not to mention that the RB academy forced other teams to fund more young drivers to prevent missing out on talent! Sure, Red Bull have a habit of mistreating their academy drivers, but they have produced some of the best drivers in recent F1, as well as other sports! In F1 alone you have Max, Pierre, Carlos, Daniel and Seb. Go to other sports and former drivers and suddenly you have Buemi, Algersuari (criminally underrated), JEV, Albon, Kvyat, Hartley, among many others. And then you look at those who they have signed to fill voids. Webber, Coulthard and Checo. All are incredibly talented drivers, and it looks like all of them will finish their careers in F1 there, certainly Webber and Coulthard did. Hornet and Marko are exceptional talent spotters, and can tell who will make F1, and who to ditch. But they need to be better at HR.

[@MKRCinema]

Hot take: Ricciardo secretly regrets leaving Redbull and knows realistically it was the only place he could of won a championship

[@bennettartmn5917]

This is not a hot take.

[@Blueturtle1]

This isn’t a hot take it’s just sad

[@James-oi6pe]

@@bennettartmn5917 The British Empire requires at the present time hard services from all its sons. It requires the hardest service from those to whom most has been given.

[@Gl-my8fw]

He wasnt going to be beating max either way.

[@garythefishable]

@@Gl-my8fw While not as talented as Max if luck went his way Ricciardo had the ability to beat him over a season.

[@Karsten-Melton]

The fact that Montoya almost won a title in F1, won two Indy 500’s and won multiple races in NASCAR proves he was actually an incredible driver

[@jaredabvan20]

That's a fact

[@dimebagdd]

Tbh i've never heard anyone claim otherwise. JPM is highly respected among F1 fans.

[@Karsten-Melton]

@@dimebagdd it’s mainly in his NASCAR days. His car broke and he crashed into a jet dryer on track in 2012 and that’s all anyone remembers him for. He doesn’t have the respect he deserves from stock car fans

[@mistertheking]

Juan and Fernando will go down as two of the greatest motorsport drivers, not only because they're the two closest to achieving the triple crown, but also because they've been incredible in every series they've driven in.

[@patrikjansen7831]

@@mistertheking and I believe that everyone likes hot headed drivers who also got the pace to back it up

[@SShadyJess]

I feel like today's field is so strong that maybe half the drivers we'd clock as being WDC material will never get one, which is sad to see

[@formulafish1536]

This has often been the case. But especially today there are so many genuinely talented drivers that won’t win a world championship because they aren’t aligned with the right team, and are just in the wrong era. Just think about this: Without Schumacher, Button would be a 2x champion, Damon Hill also. Montoya would be a multiple time world champion, as would Raikkonen. Without Hamilton, Rosberg would be a 3 time champion, Verstappen would be a world champion, as would Bottas and Massa. Vettel would be a 5+ time champion. Without Mercedes in the Hybrid Era, Ricciardo would be a world champion, as would Charles and Max. Without Seb, Mark Webber would be a world champion, Fernando would have another championship and the 2013 championship would have been wide open. It is so easy to think about how many different drivers could be world champions in different eras, and look at the results without certain teams and drivers, but sadly these dominant patches exist, so these incredible drivers never end up having the success that they so easily could have had had things been a little bit different.

[@folkert2938]

@@formulafish1536 How would charles be world champ?

[@lukadoncic20]

@@folkert2938 no mercedes and Ferrari was 2nd fastest in 2019, so I think there

[@folkert2938]

@@lukadoncic20 Well verstappen finished the season 3rd in terms of points and leclerc 4th soo

[@TommoOnYoutube]

You ain't wrong!

[@dashiellbogart4245]

Hot take: I think sainz will compete for and possibly win at least one championship

[@thomasgibbons5082]

Anyone on the grid has the skill to win a championship in my opinion.

[@theohio3460]

@@thomasgibbons5082 come again?

[@Lteo]

@@thomasgibbons5082 I don’t really think about that mate because winning a championship is not really about who has the most pace, you need to have the mentality the experience, the consistency and a lot of other things to be a world champ

[@AndreOliveira-pk7zc]

The Felipe Massa syndrome all over again

[@TommoOnYoutube]

The man is coming into his own for sure.

[@mung710]

Carlos Sainz should be regarded at the same level as Norris & LeClerc, but because he hasn't had the chance to settle in a single team long enough he is always in the "adjustment" phase - where he is still getting podiums.

[@jhrb5136]

Hard pillow: It’s because he is at (or near of) his prime, he is 27, 6 years in F1, so much older and much more mature than Norris and Leclerc

[@j_pap9749]

Carlos is a fantastic driver, but he is older and he has experience in an F1 car. The other two, and some other drivers are only now starting a career and have already impressed.

[@whatever16jb17]

i think it’s also because leclerc is a very flashy driver, one of or the best quali driver on the grid and he drives flashy too. carlos is overlooked because he’s usually keeping his head down and mowing through the pack, but you know ppl love to focus on the front runners and the crashers, and carlos is usually neither (no offense tho, he totally can be)

[@robbiewarburton2548]

We should respect anyone who steps into an F1 car because it’s a massive physical and mental challenge

[@fkez0510]

Even Mazepin 😁

[@snobey]

@@fkez0510 50 % of Mazepin haters can't even drive a car 💀

[@avinashanish3350]

Tommo's video: Exists Squarespace: It's free real estate

[@TommoOnYoutube]

We're good friends now 😅

[@greybo4034]

@@TommoOnKZbin so where you foes once?😆

[@istvanhegyi3076]

Magnussen was a top tier driver,but his bad years at haas overshadowed his amazing performances.

[@markus0056]

Same goes with grosjean. Both had quality seasons. In 2018 for example. And Romain already go a P2 and a pole in IndyCar. Which is undoubtedly a prove of his skill and pace. And about Magnusson: if you don't have talent you don't get a podium in your first race in F1 without big talent. McLaren wastet his talent and he never got a real chance again. Because the Renaults and Haas he drove afterwards were shit. With the exception of 2018 of course.

[@RezaMaulanaRezaMaulana98]

I reckon the same too as he immediately impressed in the Ganassi IMSA ride, and its the same with Grosjean given how impressive he is in the Dale Coyne/Rick Ware IndyCar ride so far. I hope both of them can continue to perform well on their respective rides.

[@Adithya13303]

@@markus0056 Grosjean had a quality 2018? Bro at least watch some race highlights from 2018 before spewing bullshit like that. He didn't score a point until Austria while Magnussen had 25. Grosjean is the reason why Haas didn't get P4 in the championship in 2018 and it's a miracle that he still managed to keep his seat until last year.

[@airwave6610]

But Kevin Magnussen isn't real!

[@markus0056]

@@Adithya13303 yeah maybe he bottled them P4 in the championship at the end but he still had a pretty good season from Austria onwards. He had a P4 in Austria which is really good,also an impressive P6 in Germany and got screwed over by his own team at the pitstops in Australia.

[@TKswitchblade]

Alex was robbed of an F1 career, had amazing performances at Toro Rosso, and just because he wasn't as good as Max in his first year in the Redbull (which mind you only was his second season in F1) he got cast out of F1 and might not be able to return to a starting seat which really is a crying shame imo.

[@AnarchistMetalhead]

Alex was put under pressure he couldn"t deal with, he was doing well at the beginning of the season, and once it was clear he wouldn"t keep the seat for the next year. Had he not been crashed by Hamilton he could have left Austria with a podium, and the mindset of having already performed

[@davide4052]

Bah in toro rosso he was outperformed by kyat I m not sure about what u are saying

[@fkez0510]

Absolutely correct! I think the 2020 RedBull also played a part too, it was a car that even Max struggled with sometimes. Alex's performances in RB in 2019 were better than 2020, he was showing such good promise in Toro Rosso too :( unfortunately we might never know how good he can be

[@Ayad719]

He shouldn't have quickly joined from Toro Rosso to already RedBull in his only debut season tho.

[@dbabu51]

And he was brilliant at RB in 2019 First race P5 Brazil almost podium

[@AlpcanAras]

One week from the future: Vettel did perform to expectations and Perez broke the curse.

[@TommoOnYoutube]

Has Perez really broke the curse? Qualifying on average over half a second behind Max? More podiums that Gasly + Albon sure, but he's also got 11 years experience so... 🤷‍♂️

[@Duval-In-The-Wall]

Tommo Max is too goddamn fast

[@komonyiorbanbalazs8996]

@@TommoOnKZbin aged like milk

[@tijgertjekonijnwordopgegeten]

@@komonyiorbanbalazs8996 aged like milk

[@lorddarthus9530]

Maybe when toto said he'd send Russell to Renault Clio Cup he meant that he was gonna sign ocon and have Russell drive for alpine

[@andyvettel4375]

Why exactly ? I hope they take ocon or keep bottas , Russell should stay at Williams and help them become a better team

[@WiZz_is_mad]

@@andyvettel4375 he is wasted talent there...

[@the_lost_navigator7266]

Next year's Williams (white Mercedes ) could be a handy car. I'd like to see Bottas go back there.

[@rattusnorvegicus4380]

​@@the_lost_navigator7266 Yes, Russel &Bottas at Williams next year. Who will join Hamilton.

[@rajmehta4643]

@@rattusnorvegicus4380 me

[@jsg0170]

Hot take: George Russell will never win a Grand Prix in his career, because the season he gets in the Mercedes is the season their car turns to sh*t

[@shoutatthedevil189]

I've had the same thought, by the time he gets a seat they'll suck

[@joshgeorge728]

Probably Yeah but he might join a merc junior team higher than williams like mclaren or aston

[@matiashansen3724]

With his luck, this just might happen

[@raphboult8894]

If merc were shit he could go somewhere else. IMO it's highly unlikely that he'll stay at merc his whole career (after williams ofc)

[@kuper8759]

exactly what i thought

[@edward0098]

Opinion : Kimi Raikkonen would be 3 time world champion if McLaren was reliable in 2003 and 2005.

[@nicmagtaan1132]

i think that 2003 and 2005 season of kimi, mclaren gambled speed over reliability but then again i think having more reliability would've really change it

[@edward0098]

@@nicmagtaan1132 kimi was a monster at that time

[@passerik]

That’s just facts. And I’m a huge ferrari and Schumacher fan

[@ProjectDuckHQ]

i think lewis is more consistent but his mercedes is significantly more dominant than the red bull ever was. I think if both are at their absolute best, on the perfect car, seb smashes hamilton.

[@hollensworth9848]

Not so Hot take: the Gulf livery was the best on the grid

[@TommoOnYoutube]

That's an ice cold take pal, haha!

[@adeel-th7hv]

@@TommoOnKZbin hey I got a question which is faster the slowest F1 car on the grid or the fastest f2 car

[@nielsleenknegt5839]

@@adeel-th7hv slowest f1 car by about 10-20 seconds depending on what track it is.

[@TestarossaF110]

I dislike that it was not like the McLaren Le Mans F1 though. It looked way to pastel/white.

[@zerosixteen.4644]

That's truth my man

[@batduckbatduck8637]

Latifi has talent this is my general opinion.

[@feehy5506]

I guess we will see when he has a different partner to be easier to compare to.

[@TommoOnYoutube]

I mean you don't win F2 races without some talent. Same could be said for Mazepin tho... 😬

[@izumadodoesstuffinc.6917]

@@TommoOnKZbin The difference is, Latifi finished runner up to the championship, not Mazepin

[@rahimt.s941]

@@TommoOnKZbin well nobody's saying he doesn't have talent though. It's just his behaviour

[@yoyo-tx6zg]

@@izumadodoesstuffinc.6917 difference also is that Latifi had 3 seasons in f2

[@formula31]

my one (an expansion of another one): yuki doesnt have the mental capacity for f1 and unless he drives like a verstappen he will be yeeted out of f1 in 1 or 2 years

[@patrikjansen7831]

Well only if he doesn't yeet himself out of formula one

[@cameronriddoch6307]

I don't think so, he is just a rookie, if he gets the seat in 2022 then he will perform much better, he has displayed his pace in Bahrain and Baku. He could be a world champion

[@thesnackbandit]

@@cameronriddoch6307 😂

[@RandomStuffInnit]

Giovinazzi is actually quite talented, he's just in a sub-par car and needs more years of experience.

[@Agomacule]

I agree, and I think one of thr main reasons he's underrated is because he gets very little screentime during races

[@mg_mtb9709]

I think he is a wasted talent at this point because there is no signs of him leaving his team and eventually will get dropped

[@fkez0510]

He's developing for sure, I just think its been a slower upward curve compared to most, I'd definitely love to see him in a better team tho

[@VkVidis]

Agree that he’s good nowadays. But more time to improve?

[@sergeygeorgiy9154]

Everyone is talented in F1. This wasn't the case 20-30 years ago.

[@RightLadd]

The Russel, Bottas overtake was more symbolic than anything

[@Nefariousbig]

My hot take: longtime F1 fans have gotten so used to Monaco they've lost sight of the magic and spectacle that the race even taking place brings. Yeah the actual racing might be wank but the whole package is iconic and essential, imo.

[@alexandrestenberg4440]

Preach

[@F1ll1nTh3Blanks]

I still think it's overrated as far as concerns F1, only reason it exists is because of the historic playboy atmosphere. That said, I still think it needs to stay at this stage.

[@rahimt.s941]

As a new fan I second this

[@pixelboujee]

I'm a new fan and I still found the race boring. Don't get me wrong, I loved the new podium (majorly attributed to pit and quali shenanigans, I'm all for it) but in terms of pure racing it was pretty forgettable.

[@bilboswaggings]

shit might be iconic, but i'm still not going to eat it... aside from the quali the only thing I wait for is safety cars... the point is to watch racing not hoping for accidents the race is iconic because it worked before since the cars were so different and not everyone finished the quali is amazing but they could just remove the race imo, just have practice x3 and quali on sunday

[@olivialambert4124]

Here's my take. Vettel is still one of the fastest drivers on the grid today. He had been a consistently rapid challenger during 2017, 2018, 2019. I personally don't think a terrible 2020 Ferrari which goes directly against his needs in a car is enough to say he's lost it. He isn't doing great in 2021 yet either, but I think with some time in the car he's going to come back to perform incredibly well in years to come.

[@raitaikai1514]

Well that aged well

[@olivialambert4124]

@@raitaikai1514 I mean he's been good and he's been bad. He had a great race at Baku for sure, but I'd say the trend is far below what I was expecting to be honest. For sure a trash car is partially to blame, Stroll was also pretty rapid qualifying in the past and that has gone in 2022 too, but some good drivers like Bottas have really been able to make a mediocre car look good. That's more what I'd hoped of Vettel. In short I personally think it didn't age great but I'm not yet ready to throw it away as wrong. I'm still dreaming of fast Vettel the same way I'm dreaming of Ricciardo glory. As an aside I think I'm pretty much proven spot on with the 2020 Ferrari being largely suspension issues. I don't know why so many keep running the engine narrative given the sheer amount of evidence we have now.

[@kirkwilliams5154]

Hot Take: theres a massive bias towards British drivers all across the media

[@archielangley7723]

I mean you've gotta consider that there is a huge fan base in the UK, which is also due to Lewis's success, and a lot of drivers come from there. Also many pundits are British and social media pages are run by British people, and Aston Martin are British. There are just a lot of British things in the sport.

[@fkez0510]

Wow really? Didn't know that 🤣

[@sayaka910]

i wouldn’t call it bias persay. f1 is hugeee in the uk and the uk fans are very common particularly in the media. like any country, they favour their native drivers- there just happens to be a lot of english fans speaking this out.

[@ChefofWar33]

Not a hot take. A certified fact.

[@magnero2749]

Not a Hot Take when its obvious

[@deanlo1]

Hot take: Daniel Ricciardo is past his prime. I think he will get things sorted with that McLaren soon. But he will never reach the same level that he had during his Red Bull time

[@zerosixteen.4644]

True

[@mr.izanami1796]

You are probably right. I think his jumps from team to team hurt him in the long run, shouldve stayed with Renault/Alpine imo or even Red Bull before that. He and Max could've been a deadly duo.

[@amiel6057]

Dani Ric is like Kimi to me, he may not win races/championships, but I still enjoy watching him race : )

[@rogeliogamboa7644]

IMHO Daniel Ricciardio is past his best - this is only a personal thing, but he just keeps on smiling, always - it gets to me a bit - this is a serious business - he should look "concerned" more often - everyone needs to be happy - but I don't think he's currently in a "happy" place

[@domarmstrong444]

Agreed

[@Adithya13303]

Hot take: Ricciarodo lost his chances of winning a WDC when he left Red Bull.

[@albert_gyorgy]

If he stayed, Red Bull wouldn't have allowed him to win, only if they had the best car and Max dropped the ball. Daniel probably didn't see Max dropping the ball, so it was an understandable move.

[@s_d_1200]

@Felix Lewis Well that's Mercedes. Red bull isn't like that, for example, Vettel vs Weber. I don't think that needs much more explanation

[@justamanchimp]

Yes. I think he ended his career chances when he failed to beat Verstappen. He basically ran away from the fight. If he doesn't beat Lando, he's done. And his legacy will be only a great driver, not of legend status.

[@quackingpanda8466]

@@albert_gyorgy better to fight max in the same car than to fight the top teams in a high midfield

[@Jammert]

@@justamanchimp what hes the only red bull driver to beat max

[@bw8818]

15:13 snuck in Stroll there with max, Lewis and vettel. Thought we wouldn't notice but we did.

[@sethharvey1073]

"Alex Albon will only get back into Formula 1 through that Alpha Tauri team." *Albon signs for Williams*

[@Kungludvig100]

A bit hot take: Kevin Magnussen, Danill Kyvat and Alex Albon are some of the most wasted talents in the sport (in recent times) Comment requested: Stoffel Vandoorne, Pascal Wehrlein, Nyck De Vries

[@markus0056]

So so true. They never got a real shot. Kvyat was pretty good in 2015 and 2016 he got demoted because of Max. Never got a chance after that. Magnussen couldn't beat Button in his rookie season and got fired by McLaren even though he got a podium in his first F1 race, his last not completely shit car was the 2018 Haas and he showed he had talent in that. Alex got promoted too quickly. They should have given Kvyat the RedBull seat and let Gasly and Albon go Head to head in the TorroRosso for the 2020 RedBull seat. Other completely wasted talents (who made it to F1 otherwise there would be to many) are Vandoorne (Alonso wiped the floor with him and he never got another chance), Wehrlein (scored a point in the shitbox of a Manor, didn't get the 2017 Mercedes seat and the 2017 sauber was shit, never got a real chance to really prove himself at at least a midfield team), also Grosjean in my opinion was kinda a wasted talent (yeah he crashed a bit too often, but his race pace is rapid, in his IndyCar rookie season pole and P2 is stellar)

[@kanileo2595]

Add Pascal Wehrlein to that list too

[@ladida9084]

Nyck, pascal and stoffel should be added

[@Kungludvig100]

@@ladida9084 Thats true but its hard to rate De vries and Wehrlain they werent in very good teams and werent even in the sport. But stoffel is also hard i was a quality driver but were up against Alonso. But i agree with Stoffel

[@Kungludvig100]

@@markus0056 So true, I agree 100% with you

[@JoshTT2]

I can see George AND Ocon at Merc in a couple of years. Strong partnership, imo

[@bartandaelus359]

The season this happens, which I also think is likely, is 2024 when Ham retires. I also think we see Merc fall to shit because of it.

[@Rakettivuori]

9:53 Hamilton actually had more experience with the car than Alonso being the test driver the season before

[@Endless-River]

Using "wind up merchants" to describe people who stir the pot is one of the best things I've heard all day so I will try my best at using that in the future, cheers Tommo! Great vid :)

[@toby_59]

The comment on George's overtake on Valterri at Sakhir is so true. Carlos did the exact same, but nobody batted an eyelid

[@tastesgamey8572]

That was different though

[@bartandaelus359]

@@tastesgamey8572 it's always different when its the F1 golden Child George though, isn't it? There's always another bloody excuse for the lad.

[@tastesgamey8572]

@@bartandaelus359 but its the fact that he hasn't ever drove that car outside of that weekend, and Valterri has been driving it for years, and George didn't even really fit in the car, they used his old seat from like 2017.

[@MrSpeed-sr7jk]

@@tastesgamey8572 I agree with that it was overrated. Well yes he had little time in the car, but the track want technical. Imagine if we went to Singapore if that was his debut, no doubt he would be way off pace. All I'm saying is it was an easier track that's why George is getting praised and people just forget the circuit layout is quite easy to other circuits

[@tastesgamey8572]

@@MrSpeed-sr7jk true, I'm not saying this is overtake of the year or the beat overtake ever, I'm saying it was a pretty solid move considering the circumstances

[@Drenwickification]

“Post 2006 alonso is overrated” 2012 alonso: am I a joke to you?

[@jebus89]

That 2012 Ferrari wasn't as bad as people like to make out

[@Drenwickification]

@@jebus89 it most certainly wasn’t the fastest car though and Alonso was without a doubt a beast that year. I would still say it’s arguably his best ever season. I mean at the first race the ferraris only qualified 12th and 18th... It of course got better but was probably never the fastest

[@jebus89]

@@Drenwickification I never said it was, but people make out that it was a backmarker when it was roughly 4th quickest on average, in an extremely tight season. Still an incredible season

[@Drenwickification]

@@jebus89 I’ve never seen anyone say it was a ‘back marker’ lol. Anyone who would say that would obviously be trolling.

[@EmilFDT]

@@jebus89 Absolutely! As you said it was on average the 4th fastest car and it was incredibly reliable while the faster cars were very unreliable.

[@samuelallix746]

Funny to see Tommo talking Warhammer 40k with a couple of the names of commenters

[@mikesuarez9615]

Hot take: I think Lando is severely underated if you see his teammates ( Carlos and Daniel ) have had much more experience and he has done really well against them

[@sebastianfruhwirth7231]

Yeah he did not bad, but a real champ would win against his teammate (Carlos)

[@mikesuarez9615]

@@sebastianfruhwirth7231 yeah but he was in his first seasons but tbh even as a Lando fan I have to admit he could have done better with Carlos

[@Garvm]

@@sebastianfruhwirth7231 i think Sainz was underrated too. We thought that McLaren had a great car in 2020, but actually now we know they had a world class couple of drivers

[@sikanderhumedkhan6037]

This was recorded before Monaco, I can tell

[@TommoOnYoutube]

T'was

[@sebyseby2]

I think this might be overall the most talented grid we have ever seen.

[@scottlil01]

I agree. I think people can forget how bad some of the drivers in the 1990's and 2000's were (such as Yuji Ide, Ricardo Rosset, etc.)

[@toegobbler6373]

The 1980s were waaaay more talented

[@aydankhaliq2967]

@@toegobbler6373 de cesaris, jarier, boesol

[@aguy1272]

@@toegobbler6373 sure there have been better drivers however when you compare the back markers now to the ones in the 80s there's a big difference

[@nille_fca6689]

Love this! 🙌 Easy to say now but I swear a couple of months ago I told my friends Lando would be driving circles around Danny. Well, they believe me now.

[@oliverreithsrensen7062]

Video idea: make a tier list with the current drivers. Maybe even include drivers that just left F1.

[@ro6ertku9ica89]

Hot take: these videos are really entertaining an you should make more in the future

[@Kungludvig100]

14:40 How could Carlos be called a ”New boy” he has been in the sport as long as Max. How????

[@Awesummzzz]

They also said Ocon and Stroll are better than Sainz, Norris, and Leclerc. That whole comment is just a train wreck

[@trc_1291]

People say that because Max made the move faster than Carlos. Carlos didn't step up as quickly into a top-tier team as Max did. Max: Career begins in 2015 with Toro Rosso, goes to Red Bull in 2016, grows, and develops his talent with the team. Carlos: Career begins in 2015 with Toro Rosso, goes to Renault in 2017, goes to McLaren in 2019, goes to Ferrari in 2021. Carlos has never had the chance to stay in a team and grow with it.

[@theswedishchef5848]

It was a stupid take made by a stupid person no surprises they made such a mistake

[@prettytasty5885]

Kinda hot take: The special mclaren livery from monaco is better than their actual livery

[@AnthonyJSullivan]

coldest take ive ever seen. literally everyone thinks the new livery is dank

[@garrettturner4251]

Although it pains me to say, I don’t think Lando will ever be able to string together enough performances to win a driver’s championship. :/

[@baileysm697]

Hot take: Australia should get a second race as a reward for staying up till 1am every Friday, Saturday and Sunday on race weekends, imagine a Sydney street circuit past the opera house or over the harbour bridge

[@dylanreid6969]

Yes!!! Or at least some more races near our part of the world. Trying to be an Australian F1 fan and having a functional sleep pattern is so difficult!

[@loqhe1311]

true that aha

[@baileysm697]

Dylan Reid, Hell even a New Zealand race would greatly benefit us at this point lol

[@bjaarki]

Nah man back to Adelaide, 80s feel :)

[@dylanreid6969]

@@baileysm697 New Zealand would be great, especially considering they run the Toyota Racing Series which is often used as a feeder, but I feel like NZ won't get one for the same reason as Finland - not enough money in it.

[@ysuphgroup7157]

Gasly will be considered one of the best after a few years when Lando, George and the other upcoming drivers' talents are known.

[@TommoOnYoutube]

I don't disagree!

[@ysuphgroup7157]

@@TommoOnKZbin Yay!! Tommo doesn't disagree :)

[@sm70911]

Not unless he gets a seat in a works team.

[@F1ll1nTh3Blanks]

I think Gasly is near enough top tier as is tbh. He was feeder champion. Then again so was Stroll and Stroll beat Russell to the ticket.

[@ysuphgroup7157]

@@sm70911 Yep. He needs a seat in an a team like Ferrari or Mercedes. Similar situation to Charles.

[@joachimcieters-photo3499]

Bottas was amazing back in his F3 days. Everytime I watched him race he was at the front and the whole grid always knew he was the fastest. I'm sad to see that gone.

[@FellianTheDragon]

14:16 2 weird things about this tweet: 1) Saini mixes first and last names for some reason 2) Sainz is listed as a "new boy" but has been in F1 longer than Ocon and Stroll (and debuted the same year as Verstappen

[@nielsleenknegt5839]

To be fair to the dutch, when they weren't qualified for the 2016 Euro's (football) the support for Belgium was amazing. Also hot take: Lewis Hamilton and George Russell will never drive (under normal circumstances) together at Mercedes. (Only time I see that happening is if bottas has an injury or tests positive for Covid.

[@markus0056]

I think that's true. They don't want another Hamilton Rosberg situation and have 2 number 1 drivers. That would be given with a Hamilton Russell lineup. And with RedBull being on top with them, Ferrari and McLaren on the up there is a high risk of losing a championship. I believe if Rosberg stayed at Merc for 2017/18 , Seb would easily have at least one if not two Ferrari Championships

[@bizarrebunny5579]

See I think they will for one year next year. George has fully outgrown the Williams and would be willing to be number 2 for a season and learn from Lewis and not cause tension to be ready to then fully take over as lead driver when Lewis leaves with all the knowledge. I think he’s had enough of Williams at this point that he can settle as no 2 for a year. He’s been playing the long game from the start

[@1967jackass]

Hot take: I think that Lando Norris will win his first grand prix this year.

[@wonderfulhumanbeingwithagr6381]

He will

[@chaz3196]

i think so too

[@maximkadivnik8078]

I hope so

[@johnjirehgarcia8382]

God knows how I hope for that to happen!

[@jollofj3902]

That’s not that hot is it? He has multiple podiums this year and we have had races where Mercedes and Red Bull were vulnerable

[@tigger7212]

Waking up to a Tommo video is always dope, but waking up to a half an hour Tommo video is just next level vibes

[@LatinoGamer96]

Seeing this after Checo's win and Seb's podium on azerbaijan hits different.... in a "my stomach hurts from laughing" different lol

[@albertusdrostable]

I would love have loved to hear your opinion on this: Sainz would have made the best option to drive next to Verstappen and Red Bull are a bunch of mad old man to let him go!

[@TPH250290]

Sainz would've left the Red Bull family by now anyway because his contract would've been up. Anyway, the whole reason he wanted out was because he didn't want to play lackey to Verstappen.

[@albertusdrostable]

@@TPH250290 I think he could have beaten Verstappen. Max had a little more luck in his first season in F1.

[@TPH250290]

@@albertusdrostable Maybe he could have, maybe not. The reality is it was obvious Red Bull had decided Verstappen was Vettel's successor and Sainz didn't want to play second fiddle.

[@albertusdrostable]

@@TPH250290 Yeah. Another bad call from Red Bull. That shows everyone their guess is as goed as anyone elses.

[@endthisnonsense7202]

@@albertusdrostable Not a bad call, you need two drivers that actually can work together. If you have two talented over ambitious drivers and neither of them wants to give way to the other you need to discard one of them and keep the other.

[@dylanracer195]

My Hot take: If Albon didn't have those confidence destroying punts that took away his 2 podiums, he could've been as fast as Bottas, and helped out Verstappen a lot more

[@ladida9084]

Agreed

[@andyvettel4375]

Maybe

[@theswedishchef5848]

If you can’t recover your confidence from one bad race over the course of a full season you probably shouldn’t be in f1

[@andyvettel4375]

@@theswedishchef5848 yo will you make me some knekabruh (?) Swedish boi

[@Enra000]

@@theswedishchef5848 spot on. anyone shouldn't be in F1 if they have a weak mentality

[@ferryfernandus1423]

Hot Take : Hamilton &Jacques Villeneuve has the luckiest start of his F1 career, because most drivers have to grind their respect starting as a backmarker team driver

[@sergeantsupreme4395]

That doesn't mean they're lucky

[@magnero2749]

@@sergeantsupreme4395 Then what possibly would be considered a lucky start to their formula 1 career

[@sergeantsupreme4395]

@@magnero2749 none imo, you get what you deserve and they both won titles in their 2nd year so clearly they were good enough. Villeneuve won a title in America before Williams and Hamilton won GP2. I guess you could say it was lucky but I think that takes away from the talent that got them there And really they didn't even get good cars that early relative to other young drivers Schumi got in a benetton from race 2, Leclerc 2nd year, Norris got a 4th in the constructors McLaren in year 1, Verstappen year 2. So they didn't even get great cars that early relative to others, and bar Schumacher, none of those were title ready in year 2

[@magnero2749]

@@sergeantsupreme4395 Being lucky does not mean they were not skilled. But if you cant recognize their fortune relative to these other drivers then you are living in a alternate reality. Senna smashed most records in the highest feeder series at the time to debut in a Toleman and you cannot possibly believe the 91 Benneton, 2019 Ferrari or 2019 Mclaren had the same shot for a title as 2007 and 2008 Mclaren or 1996 and 1997 Williams. Schumacher had an almost perfect score in qualifying against a multiple world champion team mate, Max beat Daniel to win in his first race with the team and Leclerc rattled Vettel all year in his first season with Ferrari. What you think they would do to Valteri cant-overtake-a-gradma Bottas in the Mercedes ? Who btw was being handed a can of whoop ass by Russel in his one race with team Don't get me wrong I'm not saying they were not talented, but had Hamilton and Villeneuve started in midfield or back marker teams in their rookie season they might have completely missed the opportunity the following season to fight for the title hence their luck relative to these other drivers.

[@gemcockrell]

Gasly’s overtake on Perez at Spa is one of the best overtakes of all time in my opinion, given the backstory of Eau Rouge. Gives me chills everytime I see it. Incredible.

[@ForgFromFinland]

The russel bottas overtake only happened because russel had new mediums, bottas had about 40 lap old hards which were cold af because of the bad pitstop bt merc

[@ForgFromFinland]

@@amybudge6397 yeah and i guess the only reason why people remeber it is because it was russels only race in the merc and bottas had been there the whole season

[@haykallazuardi3794]

gio is pretty underrated, he went toe to toe with gasly for the chip in 2016, and that monaco performance is just brilliant

[@toni8003]

But he's also done almost nothing in F1 for over two years now. He is a good driver, but results haven't reflected that at all

[@therandomgamer18]

What's the chip? I though he battled with gasly for the gp2 title

[@markmclean8858]

@@toni8003 you expect him to be a World beater in a Sauber?

[@edwardboyles6538]

I completely agree about Russell’s overtake in Sakhir I think Gasly’s at spa and Albon’s around the outside at copse at silverstone were amazing

[@tomossmallwood6427]

Kimi Raikkonen’s race pace is still right up there and he deserves a 2022 seat more than Gio. His experience would be crucial for the team and his team mate going into the new regs and he still consistently beats Gio in the race (3-1 kimi when both cars have finished)

[@williammiyazaki]

My hot takes: Schumacher will move to Alfa Romeo, and Mazepin-owned Haas will have Shwartzman as their young driver.

[@jacob4tee]

Where is ilott gonna go then

[@thecoconathunter]

My take on Yuki: It is kinda when you see a teenager start trash-talking. At first, it is kinda cute, but as the times are gone, so does the cuteness. He really needs to learn to constrain his emotion.

[@zerosixteen.4644]

Same. He needs to chill out.

[@mitchmay3867]

You talked about having a quali driver and a race drive. You should do a video where you make a grid of drivers you consider quali drivers and one from race drivers and see how different they are. Maybe to like since the hybrid era started.

[@Leah-du4pe]

You should do a video of your fave f1 moments: fave overtake, fave radio moment, fave commentator moment, fave livery, fave year, fave race, etc

[@jobfightertg9686]

Hot take: everyone that is placed next to Hamilton or Verstappen will be underperforming cause they are on a diffrent level.

[@commudus6256]

Not really a hot take.

[@jobfightertg9686]

@@commudus6256 Well for some reason a lot of people call out Bottas or Perez for underperforming.

[@TheBigBoatman]

Although there was points where the likes of Button, Rosberg and Ricciardo were pretty much equal with Max and Lewis.

[@Meatlooaf]

I'll agree with: ALMOST anyone placed next to Max Verstappen and Lewis Hamilton will look like they will underperform. There are notable outliers.

[@marioibarra7383]

Perez will take P3 in the chamionship and Sainz will show that he is an amazing driver by taking more points than Leclerc this season

[@TommoOnYoutube]

All depends on how long it takes for him to hook up qualifying. His race pace is already pretty much there IMO.

[@defnotatroll]

Leclerc makes very big mistakes. I thought this even before the season started. Sainz is consistent and is quick. If he keeps his nose clean he will beat Charles. He's only 2 points behind him after 5 races he's spent adapting

[@marioibarra7383]

@@TommoOnKZbin Yeah, I think that if he can consistently qualify P4 we will have a very close battle throughout the season between him and Bottas

[@marioibarra7383]

@@defnotatroll Absolutely, I think that Charles is more talented but his mistakes will cost him a lot and Sainz with his great consistency will advantage from this💪🏿

[@a7G-82r]

Bottas still too fast for him.Hes still ahead of perez despite two dnfs.

[@katlegokgotse]

Lewis Hamilton is over hated for the same reason why Michael Shumacher is praised

[@jaredabvan20]

I agree 100%

[@miggygetright6344]

Hot take: Hulk is so loved from pity, especially after that DTS episode on him, the kids were mean

[@madmsf8981]

Sainz is perfect for the Red Bull seat when Mick inevitably goes to Ferrari

[@mr.izanami1796]

Uff...doubt that Sainz will ever return to RB. And that Mick will be in a Ferrari seat someday is not set in stone imo. If Sainz and Leclerc keep preforming well as a team i doubt that they will Sack Saint and put Mixkin that seat

[@Adithya13303]

Mick ain't making it to Ferrari if Sainz keeps performing the way he is.

[@Drenwickification]

@@mr.izanami1796 yeah I think as long as he does well and Sainz and leclerc do well at Ferrari then merc is a more likely option for Mick. I guess the next logical step could be Alfa Romeo once Kimi retires? And then once Hamilton retires if mick has shown he’s a good driver then they could take him from Ferrari, especially since he’s German they’d probably like to have a German driver in the team again if there is a suitable option.

[@abduljuanitoadoma6865]

I don't think Verstappen would allow that 👀

[@jv302]

Checo is not going to lose his seat atleast 1 more season for sure...

[@MrBlazemaster525]

Combine Maldonado's raw pace with Checo's consistency and tire magic and he'd have at least 1-2 WDCs easy

[@hanvelthuis7431]

I like the fact that you put the thumbnail opinion as the first opinion :)

[@matatiasss]

Tommo : This video is sponsored by SquareSpacee Me ( maybe a few others ) : *TRADITIONS*

[@dennisweijers5400]

Bottas is the 4th or 5th best driver on the grid. He’s nearly always within a tenth or two of Lewis, even in race pace, and almost no one can do that.

[@ViciousDogAustria]

Had Lewis retired instead of Nico in 2016, Valtteri would be a multiple world champion now. He has the pace.

[@Christzo18]

@@ViciousDogAustria he might have won 2019 and 2020

[@theemaxwilson]

As someone who isn’t blown away by Seb’s recent performance, I find it odd how much people are coming down on him when Kimi is putting in just ok performances and gets nothing

[@MrBlazemaster525]

IMO people ride Seb hard because they relish kicking the guy who won 4 titles Kimi gets a free pass bec the memes

[@PG-20]

It's a hateful crowd

[@drmaulana2600]

Well..peope used to boo vettel even when he was still dominating

[@MrBlazemaster525]

@@drmaulana2600 that's tall poppy syndrome for you Chip away while you're on top then kick you when you're down

[@jordanmaclennan13]

Lando and Sainz will both have a win each before the season ends

[@armahtadsese7801]

The question is who’s gonna win first

[@vinny4900]

5:08 Vettel P2 at Baku

[@kaarlokohonen9599]

Hot take: Russell is overrated, critiqued too softly, and should perform more maturely on sundays, considering his experience, age, and phenomenal quali pace

[@andyvettel4375]

Totally agreed

[@suckieduckie]

This. especially compared to Norris who graps his oppertunities for top results instead of crashing.

[@wonderfulhumanbeingwithagr6381]

True, I have nothing against Russell but he really should do more on Sundays except of beating Haas and Latifi

[@k4bster087]

@@wonderfulhumanbeingwithagr6381 The williams are s*it

[@bizarrebunny5579]

They said at the start of the year that the Williams this year is only good in quali and hasn’t improved in race pace

[@Jack-bg8bp]

When Russell leaves Williams they will start winning

[@aareyaman2107]

Lol

[@renlysotherlover294]

Facts though

[@Louismj3]

It’ll be just his luck 😂😂

[@waywardson7295]

someone's hexing him when he reached p9/p10/p11

[@F1ll1nTh3Blanks]

Yeh, they're pinned to start coming good again next year but I don't expect them to be fully back before 2024, and honestly I can't see Russell waiting on that.

[@datdudeinred]

4:56 Can we talk about that pronunciation of Ganapathy Subramanian. "Submarine" hahaha I fell off my chair laughing 😂😂 . its Sub-Ra-Mnyan or something like that.

[@MeloxJedz]

The general hate towards Hamilton is mostly underliying racism. Max or Charles could do the same and no one would say a word, yet whenever Lewis speaks he gets backlash

[@samuel_338]

Naah, its more because he is arrogant and considered to be unbeatable..yet he lost to Button, then Rosberg and now losing to Max

[@oxii99]

13:00 just regarding senna and prost, don’t forget that in equal machinery senna out qualified prost by almost 1.5 seconds in monaco

[@rizkyanandita8227]

The best thing I could describe the two is, one of them is a driver you love as a fans, while the other is a driver you love as a team principal.

[@steez8902]

@pAtRiCk StAr it’s not as hard to argue as people think. Senna went to Prost’s McLaren team when it was built around him. He beat him in his own car. In 89 with the car built around Senna as much, he smashed Prost with performances. Prost stayed ahead in the standings that year because Senna has poor reliability that year in several races where he was either winning in the lead or atleast on course to finish high and take many points. Yet still he ran Prost to the end and Prost needed to take both of them out to take sennas oppertunity away to deny Prost the title again.

[@steez8902]

It wasn’t just Monaco where he out qualified Prost by more than a second either.

[@syedrafid3864]

Sainz and Lewis can adapt to a car very quickly.

[@shanealun]

so funny you recorded this before Monaco but released it after that race - quite a few of those drivers had an interesting race there.... ;)

[@hansfromcongo6322]

The top 10 best drivers who debuted in the 2000’s are: Hamilton, Alonso, Vettel, Rosberg, Räikkönen, Montoya, Button, Webber, Massa, Kubica. In that order. (Edit made was putting in ‘in that order’)

[@lukesheahan3709]

tsunoda is a overhyped driver, had one good race in bahrain but has significantly underperformed so far

[@markus0056]

He should have done another year in F2 to get more mature and experienced. And with the new rules coming in he wouldn't have to adapt to a new car so quickly again as he has to do now

[@albert_gyorgy]

@@markus0056 Yes, but he is Honda's man, and they wanted to bring him in before they leave.

[@markus0056]

@@albert_gyorgy I know, and I kinda think that's the only reason he's in F1 at the moment. I don't think he would be in F1 if he was just a casual RedBull junior like Lawson or Daruvala

[@charlespletzke8311]

Seb is following in Kimi’s steps now, the only reason he’s staying in F1 is because he wants to and occasionally gives a performance that reminds everyone they should stay in the sport. Seb isn’t there now, but he’ll be there soon if Aston can’t get him up front again

[@mariacorrea9778]

I would really like to hear tommos opinion or maybe even rating on the formula 2 drivers and who he thinks could make it into F1

[@lucas_13.]

Sergio Perez was one of the most underrated drivers on the grid, then lost his seat at RP and became The most overrated driver on the grid by more than a mile. To say he is one of the best drivers on the grid is offensive. His nickname was King of the Midfield not only because he was great at bringing mid tier cars to podiums and points, but because he has never been at the top level of the game. Was the best of the ones behind them tho

[@rizzoli7]

I'd disagree. Checo is definetely not on the same level as Max and Lewis; rather he sits with Sainz, Lec, Ricc.

[@lucas_13.]

@@rizzoli7 he's very much below these three as well as the likes of Lando and even Ocon who beat him in his second season

[@rizzoli7]

@@lucas_13. Bro Ocon? Sergio destroyed Ocon 2 years ago lmao. And hey, if you dislike him that's fine, but coming from an Italian guy who only supports SF and Gio, I'd say Checo is def one of the best ones in the grid. Again not top 1% but in the top 4-5%.

[@Eltamin]

imo Max and Hamilton and no where near as good as- *CUTS TO STROLL REPLAY*

[@TommoOnYoutube]

😅😭

[@zaneturbessi4410]

Prime Vettel > Prime Hamilton

[@steez8902]

Why do you think that?

[@ganapathysooraj48]

bro at 5:04 when i heard my name {even though im watching him for the first time} my heart legit sunk like wtf

[@maxstevenson5183]

One shot qualifying would be better than our current format, increases the pressure, increases the entertainment value, also the camera shots would be badass

[@awoowie_nate]

When u realize latifi has more p11s than Russell (lol)

[@aguy1272]

Yh but mostly due to there only being 11 cars left

[@yaralaterveer]

@@aguy1272 and I think most of those p11's were when russell had a DNF

[@aguy1272]

@@yaralaterveer yh

[@fejesbalint2749]

Ocon should get a merc seat, experienced, consistent, has bonds with mercedes, a team player and in terms of pace at least, a very strong midfield driver/weaker 1. Driver He could be the Best 2. Driver alongside someone like max or ham

[@thehaloguy117]

I love the fact Tommo is trying to pronounce Admech as if its an actual name and not a warhammer 40k reference lmaoo

[@j_pap9749]

Has the person commenting that Senna is overrated actually seen Senna racing, especially in the rain, or has he seen the 1984 Monaco GP?