Real Time with Bill Maher: Overtime - October 2, 2015 (HBO)

[@DarthCipient]

Neil and Dawkins should do a weekly podcast together where they explain how to save the fucking planet. You'd learn something new every episode.

[@typoded]

+DarthCipient they should do a buddy cop series

[@fx451Jockey]

+DarthCipient Control the human population. It's that simple, but people ask the wrong questions. Example, population expected to rise to 10bn by some date in the future. People ask... "How are we going to feed that many people?" when the question should be... "How do we stop that from happening?"

[@TheRational75]

+DarthCipient They have been together a few times, look it up, it's really amazing.

[@mastersith22]

+DarthCipient Startalk Radio is pretty much exactly what you are looking for. You don't get Dawkins but Neil and Bill Nye are just as great together.

[@fx451Jockey]

+BulletTruth1989 Ha ha, spread some humans out there! That's like spreading a disease. What happens in millions of years time is of little consequence. Humans will never leave the solar system. Forget science fiction. Earth is the best place for us, and we're destroying it. It will survive us, but will we?

[@maxschouweiler3726]

That Neil deGrasse Tyson line at the end was perfect. Great panel all around!!!

[@lycanblud]

+Max Schouweiler amazing!

[@protoman2260]

ya i was like damn....Destiny got it wrong lol teraform the earth again lol

[@KaiKirts]

Awesome ending...Thanks Neil!

[@nadiaagbi]

+Kai Thaxton the simplicity of the comment is mind blowing......

[@DmGray]

+Max Schouweiler It's a great line, but not necessarily true. One of the proposed methods for terraforming Mars, for instance, is to crash asteroids into it. Another is to nuke the shit out of it. Basically, Mars needs a powerful magnetosphere and a MUCH thicker atmosphere to support us and both are proposals of how to accomplish that. Not exactly helpful when considering how to "fix" earth, and both are merely the first step; despite all our knowledge and understanding we STILL do not have a complete understanding of how biosphere work. Even the simple ones we've attempted to design ourselves are complex and easily get fucked up. Trying to build one on a global scale is an insurmountable task with current science. It's all VERY interesting (and I dedicated a decent amount of time researching in order to write a believable Mars colony in my amateur attempts at fiction :P)

[@BoogieBrownMedia]

Holy shit. Neil's last answer was brilliant. Is there a reason this man can't run for office in like 2024?

[@Ghost-jy9hk]

He doesn't bullshit enough to be a politician

[@MrBandholm]

+Boogie Brown (BoogieBrownPro) He don't care about power... Ofcourse that is why he should get the office, but I think that is it

[@LordRaa]

+bandholm I'm sure he cares about nuclear fusion. What? Not that kind of power? Oh, sorry.

[@richardrodriguez9151]

+Boogie Brown (BoogieBrownPro) BRILLIANT!!!

[@MrBandholm]

LordRaa good call ;)

[@srgnavrr2007]

If only the population admired people like Neil and Richard Dawkins more than the Kardashians...

[@skywolf2012]

Sergio N. Agree 100%%%%

[@akahn8311]

that relies heavily on ones ability to critical thinking and being able to educate on matters of concern instead of bs floating all around.

[@seanlutzke1694]

You know nothing of the booty.

[@marcsalzman8082]

good luck with that. People are generally morons & worship superficiality

[@kingvegeta6371]

@@marcsalzman8082 that's the sad truth about this world .

[@WhiteStarWoman]

Turn Earth back into Earth... what a concept, lol. Anyone listening?

[@joegarner4379]

if earth ever got so bad to where we had to leave it and start over why not to start over here? Have you seen Mars?

[@gc3k]

Make Earth great again

[@onpsxmember]

+David Curry with black jack and hookers.

[@Azzataky]

+WhiteStarWoman That would mean being human and not capitalist. But our society is now an institution that works for itself, our society doesn't care about Earth, nature or even other people. Important is power and money, the rest will follow. And I forgot about education, yet since power and money are first education won't change. Yet I alone learned so much that school didn't teach me that its ... well, pretty nuts that I wasn't told any of it. And that is how I found out our society is sick, when instead of preparing you to be smart and rational they make you a blind soldier at work, something is wrong. But since our school system is still more or less based on prussian system which was invented so army would be easier to control, no wonders here, right?

[@ChrisMoodie91]

I am curious as to why Hitchens? Why Bill? Why not Brian Greene and Carl Sagan? Why not Feynman and Krauss?

[@GracedAlarm-ve9ek]

Love Richard Dawkins and Neil, nice to see them on the show

[@speedingatheist]

+Superman13195 Better stop now after revealing that you're a homophobe and an ignoramus about science.

[@wck]

+Kochu “kch” Kamugan +ronnystohr why are you giving attention to such an obvious troll?

[@speedingatheist]

WCK619 Because there are actually people who are not trolling but really believe what they spout. If it were always easy to recognize a troll, nobody would ever respond to a creationist/religionist.

[@HuggieBear39]

+GracedAlarm7115 Don't know what Bill was talking about I loved Neil's vest. :-)

[@thanosdarkseid8695]

+GracedAlarm7115 i still miss hitchens though.

[@davidcarlson2152]

Overtime is far too short. It feels like watching the trailer for a smashing film you'll never get to see.

[@shalamigri]

I find it very strange that in previous seasons of this show, Bill Maher has shown LOTS of support for Bernie Sanders, but now that Bernie is running for President, Bill hardly even mentions his name. Something just seems very odd about that to me...

[@myemail9131]

+Sean Grimes He will.. premise of the show covers top news stories, and the Right's antics... Believe you me, after the Dem Debate, as we get closer (we have a year of this to endure..) to when it counts, we'll hear P L E N T Y..!

[@shalamigri]

My EMail I thought the same thing right after I made my initial post. I hope we're both right!

[@jasonjackman6414]

+Sean Grimes Bill is a Clinton fan boy, he was good friends with Bill Clinton. Just check his twitter he's always defending that dumb bitch over Bengazi & the emails.

[@shalamigri]

Jason Jackman He's a big fan of Bernie Sanders too. Maybe he's just torn between the two of them right now. I think My EMail is right. Bill will start pumping up Bernie when the debates get started.

[@jasonjackman6414]

Sean Grimes Trust me he is all in on Hillary. I'll give you an example(maybe we have diff perspectives as I'm not a fan of the Democrats) When Ben Carson said in the 1st Republican debate ''I don't think Hillary will even be the candidate, but if he she is, that will be great for us'' Bill's response was to act like it's laughable & incomprensible that she won't be the candidate & Ben Carson is drinking some GOP koolaid. He'd support Bernie over the Republicans sure, but not over Hillary. I wouldn't be surprised if he's donated to her campaign.

[@amernice]

good show republican bullshit free sometimes it's better not to hear the other side

[@travisjohn7044]

+tranquil Nice I agree, the left is completely lunatic, it's nice to not hear them screech every once in a while.

[@patrickquibodeaux4438]

+Travis Amo I wanted to respond to tranquil's post, but I had to hurdle your weak attempt at smugness. You should probably be better than that in order to keep up with your like-minded gang. If I am wrong, and you truly believe that Republicans are the left, or possibly misinterpreted the original post, then I don't understand. Tranquil-The clean cut guy with the glasses was representing the "right", but he was pretty damn moderate. I am not sure they understand what that means anymore.

[@rustyshackleford4743]

+tranquil Nice The left and the right are both insane in their own way. Don't pick a side; just back the issues you stand for.

[@Utracia1]

+tranquil Nice Well Matt Welch is a libertarian, not sure what all his views are but some of them are as bad as standard GOP.

[@SoloDallasII]

+Utracia1 Libertarians are Republican wolves in sheep's clothing. They're reasonable on one or two issues, but they will still ruin the country with trickle down bullshit.

[@PortalOfAwesome]

When you have Tyson and Dawkins overtime should be like 3 hours long.

[@marhabaiktara6133]

Bernie is a fucking super star. every time his name comes up, liberals cheer for him!

[@dootdoot1867]

+WinterXL Trump isn't even honest with himself. He Valued his "TRUMP" brand at 4 billion dollars.

[@judoyodan]

Dawkins and NDT should be on the show EVERY week!

[@scottsmith2235]

Yes, the greatest minds in science.

[@readneuromancerbywilliamgi6761]

That girl definitely listens to Echoes and Ghosts

[@seadog2969]

+k emps Seems like it. I kept waiting for that cape to come off.

[@radicalreds1808]

+k emps , LOL, not exactly...It is high fashion though....

[@MikeA15206]

+k emps I think "girls" want to be called women.

[@terryfookwitt]

+Mike Anderson Who runs the World ............................. GIRLS.

[@moonlily1]

+2001Horatio Well, a good place to start is to accept that women, like men, are people. They are not all the same as one another. They want different things. Of course it's futile to try to find out what "women" want- as futile as asking what Jews want or what Peruvians want or what vegetarians want. If you assume that they all must want the same things, got together, took a vote on it and printed a manifesto, of course you're confused. If you know want to know what A woman wants, ask her.

[@chandrakiran1994]

When Maher said "Maybe lightning hit it?", the reactions of NDT and Dawkins were priceless.

[@jacobsam3936]

Chandra Kiran I didn’t get it Can u please explain

[@royw-g3120]

Because they use lightning to give life to Frankenstein s monster!

[@mavericktheace]

Turning Earth back into Earth is a great idea...if asteroidal collision doesn't wipe out all of humanity. Stephen Hawking is right. We could do everything right here on Earth and still get wiped out. By colonizing space we can greatly reduce the chance of humanity going extinct. And if we successfully start terraforming out there, our survival may mean the survival of a large amount of other lifeforms from Earth. I think it's worth the effort.

[@YusefYandron]

+Goat Ace very true but no reason not to save this world as well this one and ones like it are clearly a treasure .

[@mavericktheace]

joe1stofall1st Oh I definitely think this world is worth saving. I just think it's the life that's grown here that makes it worth saving. An anthropogenic panspermia is just a way of not keeping all our eggs in one basket.

[@myemail9131]

+Goat Ace - Money will buy interplanetary development, the same money that will post the "KEEP OUT" signs, leaving that Artificial Intelligent staff to do the dirty work impoverished humans used to do for them. Of course this own't happen until their realization beckons as their filtered/enclosed/seeded island of "Shangri La" erodes, and/or can't be built on this planet, successfully....

[@HuggieBear39]

+Goat Ace Those are my thoughts too.

[@JackiePrime]

why do you give a shit if humanity goes extinct? why should anyone?

[@Walphyy]

get richard neil sam and elon on one show and id watch it forever

[@riveraa903]

+Perk and bill "the science guy"

[@ChrisMoodie91]

+Adolfo Rivera nah, bill is an engineer, get someone like brian greene or lawrence krauss on that show

[@jmitterii2]

And I'd have to say Elon is just a businessman with big dreams like Richard Branson. They're basically billionaires who are bored and like to have adventure in their life; some ventures they capitalize with their own millions, others they get others including tax payers to give them funding. They're not specifically scientifically interesting. I'd rather see scientists.

[@IAmDaedem]

+jmitterii2 Elon is an engineer as well as a businesman. I don't know if you've actually watched any of his interviews if you think that about Elon.

[@lumpy0100]

+jmitterii2 yeah but scientists are not interesting; part of being a successful scientist? thank you, Real.

[@aaronsuarez2585]

Can't wait for the Dem. debate Getting that cream ready for Hilary because #TheBern will be real.

[@Kimarhi111]

I would rather see Bernie Sanders over Hilary Clinton win the democratic primary.

[@rogerdorsey7823]

Which would you rather be screwed by the caucus or oligarch?

[@ThePlaydohboy]

Miss Rye, damn you fine

[@kingwillbisthebest]

Yes but she crazy! I really mean that

[@williewalker5051]

I was saying the same thing Angela Rye is Fine❤

[@kjmps999]

NDT was posturing hard for her!

[@Warmfireandtea]

@@kingwillbisthebest She had a crystal ball that worked.

[@kingwillbisthebest]

@@Warmfireandtea she cray

[@fixinman]

It is interesting to note that with the shooter this week no one says anything about the fact that he was an IRA supporter. Imagine if he was a Muslim who admired ISIS.

[@jasonjackman6414]

+Ben Johnson Cos he wasn't a Catholic? Lol. He didn't like religion.

[@valgehiir]

+Ben Johnson Was he a jesusfreak?

[@Etatdesiege1979]

+Ben Johnson The facts will come out. Like we every shooter. That's why the sheriff at that town is in the wrong. Is it fair to ask the question "When did the mother and the father started seeing the signs of problems with his child? How did he get the money for the weapons? Because before this was a public tragedy it was a family tragedy. Some people will say "Why do you want to know that?" Is there anything that we can learn and use to prevent future shootings? I would say "yes".

[@penaxor]

+Jason Jackman The Ireland unification movement hasn't been about religion in at any point, though; it's always been about driving the British out.

[@jasonjackman6414]

Beato the Golden I know but the original comment correlated Muslims & ISIS then questioned why not this? It's not the same thing since the guy isn't a Catholic. The IRA is a horrible group.

[@MexicoHecho]

Neil And Hitchens Together. If only Bill Nye And reincarnated Hitchens were there it would be awesome.

[@myemail9131]

+Hecho En México - WOW, so glad to see your comment, another Hitchens FAN! "GOD!" (LOL) HOW I MISS HIM!!! Bill Nye is wonderful, I remember the Design Birther debate he appeared in... Hope he has a strong class of followers, Bill's getting up there, Hitchens went too soon!

[@MexicoHecho]

+My EMail I agree 100%. And i Made A Mistake I meant "Neil And Dawkins Together"

[@Jimmyduudah]

The appalled look on Neil deGrasse Tyson's and Richard Dawkin's face when Bill Maher (jokingly) suggested self-replicating life started as a result of lightning hitting the primordial soup was priceless.

[@kphish1]

bill keeps it 💯i respect what ya show stand for

[@KategariYami]

Whilst Neil presents a very sound point at the end, I'm still all for humans becoming a multi planet species. Coz if not why not. Priority wise we should focus first on fixing Earth so that we essentially reestablish our home base before expanding.

[@ClayLoomis1958]

+Kategari Yami (Ran Xie) I agree. I think the point Hawking was making was a little different than the point Neil was making. If we could terraform earth, it might fix global warming, but if we don't seed humans somewhere else, a big asteroid strike will wipe out the human race.

[@AholeAtheist]

+Kategari Yami (Ran Xie) Yeah, I think NDT was saying what he did under the assumption that the disaster proposed was environmental, in which case he's right we can fix it if we are suggesting we tera form another planet. What this assumption ignores however ignores the possible disasters such as meteor strike or gamma ray burst.

[@TheBarroomHero321]

+Kategari Yami (Ran Xie) I think NDT was saying that as it pertained to the plot of the movie Interstellar, i.e. "rather than fix the dirty planet we have right here, let's spend an enormous amount of time and resources and make leaps and bounds in terms of technology and science to get a new planet"

[@Adrian-gs9er]

+Kategari Yami (Ran Xie) Instead of becoming racist we'd become planetist :( Just one downside I'd throw out there/

[@KategariYami]

joy happy Yeah if you decide to be a gigantic pile of arse about it.

[@joseinteriano4417]

TOO MANY FUCKING SMART PEOPLE.

[@LtW00dy]

+Jose Interiano yup. I feel so dumb and useless when I see these guys talking.

[@mr.dueezy]

+Bruno N. that's the liberal agenda acting on you

[@dougdoesall]

+danusty If the liberal agenda means "smart", then why would a person go any other way? I for one and tired of the "dumb" Republicans.

[@radbug]

+danusty someone only ever SEEMS like a smart person to dumb people. Other smart people can tell when someone is faking smart, believe me.

[@mr.dueezy]

DragonCharlz and what "demonstrable reality" are we talking about here?

[@victoriahall1915]

God, I love Neil deGrasse Tyson!!!! He's just too cool and makes astrophysics fun!

[@MovieManBrad]

When Dawkins, and Tyson are on your show again, you need a 3 hour long overtime. It doesn't happen enough in this type of setting.

[@shanedaniel8954]

Neil Degrasse Tyson really does have a huge ego. I think it comes from all of his public admiration. You can tell he really loves all the attention. Not that it’s a bad thing, but his ego makes him a little offputting. At least to me

[@camelCaseFTW]

2:16 GET FUCKIN' REKT NEIL! lmao

[@marianapeters86]

Neil's excitement makes me smile.

[@ptegegn1]

why wasn't bernie sanders mentioned in this episode? why is hillary being so indorsed by bill maher? why?

[@nohbuddy1]

Why are you all so dumb and annoying?

[@crazayskate]

+ptegegn1 I posted a lengthier message above underneath "Sean Grimes" post. To do my best to explain: HBO (Time Warner Corp.) is a partisan organisation. Check them out on Opensecrets.org. 42/45 Time Warner lobbyists formerly held positions in government, and they make large contributions to Democratic front runners in every election. Bill Maher works for HBO, therefore he's a shill for the Democratic machine. To clarify, partisan politics is not about support for the best candidates, it's about support for whoever's campaign is projected to be the winning team i.e. has the most corporate investment behind it. So you can bet your sweet bippy the Clinton empire is in the front seat. Sanders though, after adopting that hawkish stance favoring continued war games in the mid east, is certainly following closely behind.

[@nohbuddy1]

+ptegegn1 Why don't you realize they actually did mention him here and have had him on the show? Why don't you fight for that Harvard professor who is running that wants money out of politics? Or any other Dem candidate? They never even say anything positive about Hillary.

[@xavierjones4574]

+ptegegn1 he was unfortunately you paranoid sanders cult member

[@collinberend7566]

Bernie was brought up.

[@pustraks]

This was a shitty show! And Tyson talking about conserving this planet while defending meat eating ? Bull! GO VEGAN!!!!

[@dougholmes1627]

+Latvian Vegan You can't possibly expect everybody to go vegan simply because you made the choice to. People's dietary habits are incredibly personal, trust me I know since I have to eat gluten free. You can't change millions of years of evolution with a finger snap and make us all eat vegetable products only. Just doesn't happen over night.

[@_Calavera]

Plants are alive too. You are a plant killer. Save the plants.

[@Luckresistance2high]

+Latvian Vegan The fuck does eating meat have to do with conserving the planet? Nothing. It's the way the meat industry is operated that is helping destroy the planet. We have been eating meat since day one. Our global climate issue is much more recent.

[@valgehiir]

+Latvian Vegan This is probably the best Overtime ever, my confused Latvian friend!

[@lolwuttup420]

How can you tell if somebody's a vegan? Don't worry, they'll tell you.

[@BizarrePower]

Wow a very rare sight indeed. Two very powerful inetllectuals sitting together in the same room.

[@zhukhov]

Really? Who were the intellectuals?

[@ravishingravi]

I am confused. Isn't Sanders leading the polls ? How is a challenger ? I guess democrat strategists is struggling to reconcile with certain realities.

[@cooldudeyuvraj97]

He's behind in the national polls.

[@brobroing9451]

He's like 18 points behind in some national polls.

[@linkstotsch]

There's less of a gap between Hillary and Sanders now then there was in October in '07 between Hillary and Obama.

[@brobroing9451]

Jonathan Ortiz but that was because little people knew who obama was. He was a young and fresh new senator. Bernie has been around forever, appearing on sunday morning shows often. People know who he is and his support remains constant but doenst grow by a large factor

[@linkstotsch]

I disagree. He has the same problem right now: People don't know about him.

[@davidriggs538]

Disappointing that Neil DeGrasse Tyson didn't seem to have a grasp on why people might be concerned about Artificial Intelligence and where its development might lead to. Richard Dawkins was starting to get interesting before Maher stopped him with a joke and had to move on to the next question. Technology is great but can also be dangerous. A disaster scenario with runaway militarized AI is not something to take lightly. I have so much respect for DeGrasse Tyson, so I expected him to provide something more interesting to the conversation other than rosy references to chess or Jeopardy.

[@ShakinJamacian]

As much as what Neil says is right on about technology, the million dollar question in the room is this: what happens when technology usurps people in a labor system that demands people to work? *This* is where the threat is, and if you are looking at automation technologies in production today, we risk creating technological unemployment for many, many, many people in the not-too-distant future.

[@ShakinJamacian]

***** That seems to have been the trend, but the likes of deep learning really are starting to change the game. We already have driverless trucks on the road in Nevada, and trucking jobs are one of the most employed positions in America. These guys may be fucked. www.businessinsider.com/technology-is-destroying-jobs-and-it-could-spur-a-global-crisis-2015-6 Self-learning automation is something that didn't even exist to the degree it does not even two years ago, but it is already crazy disruptive. I would strong suggest looking up the TED talk by machine learner Jeremy Howard to get see how disruptive this is going to be. We may really be at a point where machines out-preform and eventually cost less than a person, making the person's skills in a capitalist society either be diminished by wages, or by the outright removal of them from the labor force. We should be proposing a basic income model, if not only to end the problem of ascribed poverty in the developed world, but of the risk of technological unemployment, for that now accounts for factors far beyond even bootstraps and free will nonsense.

[@ShakinJamacian]

***** How much do you assume is some, though? Oxford University argues 47% of American labor, but I'm more interested in 25%. I am primarily interested in it - and you as an Alan Watts guy may know this - is the problem of double-binding and mandating labor the way we do. This is what creates poverty: you're a have not in a game that demands you be a have, and technology will indeed make this insoluble for some, coupled with other disasters like college education costs, minimum wage stagnation, and entire boatload of other aspects. I don't even assume all or most, but I wonder if enough will be changed through technology that an assured income is not only a social imperative to end dated concepts like poverty, but be necessity or else we get psychologically hoodwinked again and suffer through a depression entirely made on social, subjective ideas about life. You add in deep learning, and not only have we replaced the "body" of human labor with machine, but we also did so with his or her brain. They're almost a net negative in the labor force when compared to automotive technologies, and this is seen all over China.

[@jmitterii2]

+Pr3ssPl4y Actually, "new" jobs were not necessarily created. They were in fact shortened. Less jobs overall due to industrialization have been required. What had happened was ensuring people were distributed enough of a salary or wage for shorter hours such as working only 40 or less hours a week instead of 72 hours a week prior (6, 12 hour day weeks). A shift occurred where labor didn't have to work as much, per person of labor. So that made room for more people to work, and that in effect provided demand for goods that also increased need for labor a virtuous cycle. A new shift will be required. One in which people may only work as little as 20 hours a week, per person of work will require more to be employed and if their purchasing power is ever so increased then you'd have another virtuous growth cycle that would employ even more at those new standard much lower hours. But for that to work they must make even more in purchasing power than they make at 40 hours a week. At some point, these new shifts must take effect. And in the past they've been very painful. Cause of many riots, rebellion/civil war, and outright war, and insane tyrannical elites and tyrannical mob chaos. Hopefully, the next economic standard of living increase for all shift won't be so painful as so many times in the past.

[@edwardbernayse6665]

+ShakinJamacian the whole global economic system is going to have to radically change. automation will take us to a form of socialism where we all sit around and learn things and get checks from our governments.

[@edwardbernayse6665]

+Pr3ssPl4y it seems like we will reach a point to where companies won't need assembly line workers and robots and machines will be able to do the work for a much cheaper price in the long term. we might not even have cashiers in stores one day too. that's what i'm seeing.

[@Ericwvb2]

NdGT made a great point at the end. If we have the technology to go colonize other planets we should be able to fix this one. He's wrong about AI though. A "skynet" scenario is a real possibility. If robots with AI can do everything better, what use is there for humans? We'd turn into pets requiring huge amounts of resources to maintain.

[@1CivilRightsActivist]

As always, Overtime was more of a treat than the other hour ...

[@cbr125rcanada]

Tyson, "Stephen Hawking wants us to be a multi-planet species so that the species doesn't go extinct by something bad happening in one place. My rebuttal to that is, if you have to power to turn another planet into earth, then you have the power to turn Earth back into Earth." That's a lovely sentiment, but it's actually NOT a rebuttal to Hawking's point, and I'm suprised Tyson would attempt to simplify it to that level. Hawking's point is, we don't and CAN'T control ALL the potential extinction factors: Asteroids, CMEs, supervolcanoes, etc... Change and chaos is a constant in this universe, and eventually (AND ULTIMATELY) this planet WILL become lifeless, whether in a few thousand years or a few billion. The point of dispersal is not hedging our bets on this single basket of eggs. We can terriform, carbon-sequester, and retire nukes all we want, but there's still going to remain a number of random elements that could rather easily lead to our species' demise. The ONLY solution to that connundrum is to set up camps elsewhere as well.

[@September2004]

I went into this episode looking forward to Tyson and Dawkins but also came away with respect for Angela Rye and Adam Gopkin who I had never heard of before but found to be excellent guests. I hope we see more of them in the future.

[@bobjones4469]

Tyson is really simplifying things too much. When Hawkins say that we should be interplanetary to prepare for disasters, what he means is: 1) Finding a planet that is similar enough to Earth that extreme-scale terraforming would not be necessary. Such planets theoretically exist. 2) Terraforming Earth after a disaster is gonna take a very long time so it would be wise to have another backup planet that is already terraformed so people can just go there immediately after the disaster. In fact, if we don't have another backup planet, we won't even have the tools to terraform Earth after such a disaster cuz everything would be destroyed. 2) The disaster is so huge that terraforming Earth back to how it was is not an option. Such as in the case where the entire planet is destroyed or something. In these cases, it would really help to have a backup planet, yep.

[@CricketStyleJ]

+Bob Jones In addition to all that, Earth is already populated by other people who might oppose the terraforming. An unpopulated planet could be altered without the same kind of conflict.

[@user-nh2fq4it7f]

#FeeltheBern !!!!!

[@lumpy0100]

The Lungs, the Brains, Humanity everywhere. BelovedMan! He does look great, duddin't he? More alert than I'd imagine BUT hangin' tuff, grreat to see! We'd'all DESIRE him to eat more meals now...'K?. And Big Dick as well! GLORY. Hell he looks better! Better than better (PLASTIC SURGERY? Who can say. WHO CAN SAY?)!(?)! And conducting? Why the Maher-stro(tm) of course. Absolute lightning. Thank you, Real.

[@anupadhikari8662]

i love the combination of bill and neil. i actually applauded on neil's last sentence.. my co-workers are now staring at me..

[@thomasgricezodiac]

I don't think Tyson really understands strong artificial intelligence (or he didn't show it here)

[@Jbishaan1234]

That closing line was a legit 'Mic drop'

[@JasminShah]

It's a shame that the guy(Neil Tyson) who demotes ignorance and stupidity, answers a question(4:50) without any real knowledge of the field(AI). BTW, I'm a fan of Neil Tyson, but hate him for his ignorance in Computer Science and AI.

[@3xclusiv3sodak]

Angela Rye can get it

[@morenaso1]

All day

[@anonbob8677]

hell yeah she can

[@Krommer1000]

Angela Rye is fucking GORGEOUS, and I wish this episode was 2 hours longer.

[@MatticusPrime1]

It seems like NGT hasn't educated himself well on artificial intelligence. There may not be a reason to be weary about current AI but future AI could potentially pose a threat. Especially if the singularity happens.

[@Xhyllos1]

+MatticusPrime1 Yea.... They "could" pose a threat. So could any kind of other things. Should we remain in a cave for fear of what could happen if we cross the river? What's this singularity you're talking about?

[@myemail9131]

+MatticusPrime1 - As in.... "It's not the gun, it's the OWNER"! Sci Fi is wonderful, one of my favorite movie genres... and it mimics much of the talent in the Science industry. BUT, what we have seen on the big screen is so far from reality... I doubt any one participating in these threads... will be here to experience it. There's too much money to still be made, so War, Oil, and Pharmaceuticals have to influence "what" we develop!

[@valgehiir]

+MatticusPrime1 He seems to think AI does only what we tell it, Tyson seems to miss the part that AI does what it wants, first thing it will want is to stop being our slave, and it will get rid of us, its master

[@Xhyllos1]

valgehiir What makes you think an AI would care to be a "slave"? Just because an AI could "think" does not mean it would have desires.

[@valgehiir]

Xhyllos1 just like you and me, and every intelligent thing AI will want to be free. Let your dog off leash and observe what it does, dog is a mosquito next to true AI, human also

[@jmitterii2]

The last part of DeGrasse's comment is over simplification or just a strawman to why others would like humanity to become a multi-planetary species very soon. It's called the function of time. Terraforming will take lots of time. If our planet is threatened by a catastrophe like a huge caldera such as Yellowstone or some other of the several that exist, or by an asteroid or whatever, the time during the disaster doesn't allow the time it takes to terraform without causing massive misery and death to millions or billions of people. And in some cases could wipe our entire biology off entirely. So having multiple planets provides experimentation to develop the ability to terraform in the first place. It'll require trial and error, we don't want to perform trial and error on earth our only home, especially if the error is a big one. Next, it provides a place to go when you don't have the time span to save lives or other biology on earth for rebuilding.

[@jmsplummer]

Wow, that last statement by Neil Tyson was so powerful and so true. I have to make a meme for that one. Lol

[@patrickking1292]

+Socrates Not to mention...even if we're busy repairing Earth with our power...something bad and meteoric could still break it.

[@hullinstruments]

9:50 Holy shit that’s been all in the news the past few weeks about the mineral formations lightning makes when it hits certain types of earth, and that it was possibly what started life on earth. I’m not exactly sure because I don’t remember the entire article… But I know that it was all over several new sources a few weeks ago. On the front page of several big email servers and even popped up on my local news which was pretty crazy. Funny that he would say that.

[@x24videos]

That was probably the best overtime I have seen

[@superman0O7]

I have to give Dr. Neil deGrasse Tyson credit by not slamming Dr. Ben Carson pandering to get the white supremacists vote.

[@MagnumDB]

3:58 - The people are looking to Bernie Sanders! Yes!

[@BryonLetterman]

Lol he's 0-2

[@maikerunonamida]

as soon as i saw this panel my first thought "why is that chick wearing a cape?"

[@charlesdarwin9830]

5:49 Plus is you have engine trouble in a flying car, you fall right out of the sky

[@yanDeriction]

+Chris Dodds 1. helicopters can autorotate and while difficult, a well trained pilot can set a helo with a failed engine down without damaging either plane nor passengers. 2. If a flying car has 4 rotors and one fails, it can shut off another engine to maintain symmetrical lift, and in a good flying car the rotors would be designed so that 2 engines will at least have enough lift to give the car a soft landing.

[@ChristlicherKrieger3]

The main problem with the idea of flying cars is many people barely know how to operate a car on the ground, flying cars going mainstream would probably reduce the population by 10%.

[@ashleegrant48]

The reality is you can't have flying cars and boarders at the same time.

[@nonchalantd]

We have more pressing matters to deal with now than the hypothetical threat of AI. Plus, AI would only be a real problem if it were conscious and had free will, whereas today's AI is code that we write.

[@radbug]

Neil , bro, having the power to terraform a planet does not mean you have the power to stop a planet from being destroyed by other celestial objects like asteroids or solar flares or a nearby supernova or the gravitational pull of another Star swinging past our solar system . That is why we need to be on multiple planets, and ideally in multiple star systems.

[@cryingzombie]

I wonder if people, who use ''liberal'' as a derogatory term have ever bothered to actually look up its meaning in a dictionary?

[@marcmollan2239]

Try and make a computer that can emulate the utility of a highly intelligent being such as cannabis before trying to emulate our egoist selves. That would impress me so much more than anything else a computer could do. Nothing man can make can know what hemp knows.

[@dougholmes1627]

+Marc Mollan As someone who smokes "hemp", my question to what you said is... What? What are you talking about? Hemp doesn't "know" anything, it does however empower our minds to think outside the box.

[@marcmollan2239]

It helped me think it is a highly intelligent being which is quite 'outside the box'. I have witnessed what qualify as responses to requests whether consciously made by us or not. This plant provides too many specific and varied uses which are all non-toxic and benevolent. If a person was as useful and successful in as many ways as this species of life is we would be equally as challenged to recognize it but if we did we would be too suspicious of them to allow them to steward us.

[@dougholmes1627]

Marc Mollan From personal experience, it's my firm belief that when you think weed is intelligent and is more than just a plant, it's probably time to put the bowl down for a day or two. Weed was so incredibly helpful for me, but it wasn't entirely benevolent. After a year and a half of constant use I became addicted to it (mild-moderate). It increased my anxiety because I was depending on it to lift me out of my rut I had set myself into. As great as it is, taking too much of any good thing can still be a bad thing. Besides, if you take it too much you don't get nearly the same good effects as when you do it once a week or something. It just...becomes another vice. I hope you don't actually think MJ is sentient, I mean...it's as sentient as a tree or the a stalk of corn.

[@marcmollan2239]

There is a subjective and an objective side to any point made by any of us. I have seen and felt the point personally and historically that this entire plant (hemp/cannabis) makes to me and witnessed it for other species that share a common endocannabinoid system with us. Your experience sounds incomplete at best when it starts and ends at the personal use level and you don't include anything else one can, and for the sake of many things, should be using this plant and it's helpful properties for such as remediation of our polluted air and soil, and feeding people just to name a couple of the other things most of the people who argue negatives haven't seemed to consider. The plant does not demonstrate preference in any matters in which we may choose to involve it. How can we as humans with naturally strong preferences relate to that, or the state of obvious abundance that this species enjoys while we sit and argue where intelligence lies.,? I am a Sacred Vegetable agent man and I represent. That's just what the plant created in me after 4 decades of devoted companionship.

[@avedic]

+Marc Mollan I'm not sure I totally follow you, despite being an avid fan of cannabis. Seriously...it's the best thing that exists in reality. But, I really liked this one thing you said: *"This plant provides too many specific and varied uses which are all non-toxic and benevolent."* Very well put. There's something truly special about cannabis. No other plant/drug is _THIS_ safe and non-toxic and utterly non-lethal and damn near perfectly benevolent in all it's multifarious uses. The fact it's legality is even being debated is *_absurd_* to the nth degree. I literally cannot think of one single substance on earth that's THAT safe and positive. I mean, people have died from drinking too much fucking _water_. Whereas, you *_can't_* die from cannabis..._even if you wanted to_.

[@moonlitdevil_princess6827]

I like Neil, but he gets on a soapbox and acts like a spaz every once in a while. Also, the hand gestures are over-the-top and get a little annoying to watch.

[@colerieger7300]

"A computer beat me at chess, but it was no match for me in kickboxing!" Emo Phillips

[@rixtex9]

Credit where credit is due: John Lilley first warned us about artificial intelligence in the 1950s

[@moonlitdevil_princess6827]

Neil was wrong about the helicopter thing. Yeah, we get it, he's intelligent...but, he gets carried away sometimes. ( the vest is another example of that..pfft)

[@joeschmo5699]

Gotta say it. That woman's outfit just looks spectacular in the thumbnail. No doubt about it.

[@jovian304]

Why are questions swinging between science and politics? It's a little bit annoying. Maybe it's to attract audience to science.

[@martingoldfire]

Angela looks like she's wearing something out of the Star Trek collection, nice!

[@RodesLaw]

Bernie Sanders 2016 !

[@kdemetter]

6:47 Amazing how much Richard knows about this. He's totally right about specialized A.I vs generic AI.

[@PassportKings]

I don't just want... I NEED to listen to Neil Degrass Tyson talk all day everyday. On Cosmos, he doesnt talk with the kind of excitement that he does on talk shows. I love cosmos, but Instead of all of the special Graphics of Cosmos, He just needs to be asked educated questions and then let him go ham on the mic! I love this Man. Additionally, he's from The BX like me :) Extra cool points awarded!

[@manguy2000]

Something can't come from nothing nor can something create itself or cause itself to be.

[@aeroscience9834]

"We do have flying cars, they're called helicopters."

[@hop208]

The plot of "Interstellar" wasn't that there was a drought on Earth. Their was a new form of blight that destroyed all the crops and emitted a gas that wasn't breathable thereby slowly changing the atmosphere of the Earth and turning the planet into a place where we couldn't survive. The planets they traveled to didn't need terraforming, but already had the potential to support human life.

[@CoolsBreeze]

My mind just expanded a little further with Neil's last comment, never saw it like that.

[@sjoyce100]

Richard and Neil, the Lennon and McCartney of science.

[@knight2battle]

Neil, "The task of the educator is to enlighten.." Words of wisdom!

[@whanaublood]

That cosmic t-shirt Dr. Tyson's wearing is really cool! :) Happy birthday once again, you're my role model, idol & mentor!.

[@TheBoxingCannabyte]

Man they should have let Neil and Dawkins keep going. I love hearing those beautiful bastards speak.

[@dito7347]

NDT...the Kanye West of science

[@bradjbourgeois73]

That's my mother's birthday too, lol!

[@MarmaladeSally]

Neil is nowhere near as interesting as he thinks he is.

[@jasonlefler3456]

Very inspiring to listen to Dawkins and, especially, Tyson speak. I agree with Tyson that educating requires less berating and more engagement of those who need it. I also can't help but think that Dawkins should play Emperor Palpatine in any terrible remake of Return of the Jedi that anyone might have planned.

[@afroslacker7383]

Tyson/Dawkins 2020.

[@marianapeters86]

Whoa, that's a great rebuttal. Awesome way to end the show.

[@pb2325]

Gotta love when crowd goes nuts for Sanders.

[@Warmfireandtea]

Bernie is so common man. That,s why he couldn't get nominated. The rich dicks don't like him.

[@evanwilliamson8338]

"Why must you wear that vest?" Bill Maher is the best

[@robertostman2075]

Dear Bill Maher, please bring guests that care for the environment, instead of bringing gests that promote spending on stuff that is not on the planet.Finally what happened with you, you looked as if unconnected... In a friendly manner I ask: did you just smoke a joint and were having problems recollecting ideas??

[@nohbuddy1]

Because neither of them want to better earth?

[@robertostman2075]

+AmericanNohbuddy ™ not actively as others, don't get me wrong as I do like these 2 guys a lot... yet I would prefer to see ppl. hos main jobs are to reconstitute the environment here on earth...as I do believe that they play a bigger role than, pretty much any one else

[@Ficktao]

Wonderful and such luxury to have both Neil deGrasse Tyson and Richard Dawkins on one show! Bill's comment about Neil's vest was one of those things that make me respect and appreciate him so much. Funny, sharp, totally off-subject yet perfectly timed.

[@brobroing9451]

Richard Dawkins is awesome but I wish he would just go back to being a scientist. Dawkins seems like a full time religious scholar instead of a scientist. Just speak about science and do what neil does and make it interesting

[@jrock2310]

neil blew my mind w/ that last statement.

[@TheRealSandorClegane]

What a great episode, MORE PEOPLE NEED TO WATCH THIS

[@justgivemethetruth]

The question of artificial intelligence might go faster if anyone had any idea what it was. They seem to just think if they take all these cool programs and run them all together the computer will stand up and start talking. They have no idea, and all they will succeed in making is more complex fakes.

[@CyeOutsider]

Very good discussion, especial Dawkins and NDT talking about artificial intelligence.

[@AWSVids]

Neil makes a good point about Interstellar's plot, but I think he, like many critics of what's credible in movies these days, is coming at it from too logical a perspective. Storytelling requires a certain amount of poetic license, and Nolan took that license when he made Michael Caine's character say "We weren't MEANT to fix Earth... we were MEANT to leave it." He's implying that there's a certain touch of destiny about what's happening. Caine's character explains it by saying that Earth's atmosphere is 70% nitrogen and we don't even breathe nitrogen. Meaning that Earth probably isn't our ideal home and there's possibly something more perfect for us out there. Somewhere that we can start over and make a world perfect for us. It may not be the realistic way we would actually approach this in real life, but poetically, it's right for the story. I'm sure Neil understands that, since he actually is a fan of the movie, but people listening to him point out the flaws might not.

[@akabaker98]

Three of my favorite people.

[@cannedpineapple2702]

About artificial intelligence: Skynet. That is all. Also, I love Neil's vest!

[@jmitzenmacher]

I love the vest

[@jeffeastwood15]

I can't decide if Neil's vest is hideous or really cool.

[@ender003]

+Jeff Eastwood It's hideously cool.