Real vs Gaming Headphones?!

[@HardwareCanucks]

CORRECTION: ModMic 4.0 is actually $49 and not $100. Not sure what I was thinking... we have a ModMic review in the description. it's quite nice!

[@steven_t_k1068]

+HardwareCanucks Why are your eyes red, where you up all night?

[@MegaNatedog1990]

+HardwareCanucks What Desktop mic do you use?! its so crisp and deep!

[@Bobsofax64]

+HardwareCanucks Great research and nice video. I've been playing with a AKG K601 (160$) with a dedicated desktop microphone (20$, but sounds ok) for 10 years and doing well. But I'm really a stickler when it comes to audio quality. Any cans which are decently reviewed are worth to try out. And since LAN parties aren't really a thing anymore, the isolation aspect is nearly irrelevant. BUT: I haven't played a FPS on a high competitive level in 8 years. Last was CS:S and COD 4. I used a Speedlink Medusa 5.1 analog headset with an amp and a dedicated sound card (X-Fi). The surround made a difference, but not as much as ads want to tell you (as with all peripherals). And since a lot of BS (RGB is the biggest by far, but lets not forget windows killing good surround sound..) has been introduced, the sound quality has really gone down. In short: I'd buy a good pair of cans with a separate mic. Modmic 4.0 sounds like a great product. Cheers.

[@nahbicris]

+HardwareCanucks Im using my Senneheiser headphones (non gaming) with Dolby Digital Plus Home Theater gaming equalizater. What do you think it a good idea or it only ruin the sound quality?

[@lescarpio]

Haha! Man, I was about to say, I just purchased the ModMic 4.0 today. I was gonna comment which one did you buy... Thought I got the wrong one...

[@Niels_f2704]

11:48 How surround audio gaming should be

Yeah, that last is TRUE surround sound :D

[@firstnamelastname3238]

Star-Lord

[@joshuawesley9461]

I'm the 500th like :)

[@fanofbrucelee3987]

Lol

[@whatsupyall2884]

Good One

[@LeoSkyro]

7.1 Surround is the biggest snakeoil in audio history

[@TheKillerDisturbed]

+leo sky This^

[@Walker998]

+leo sky it would be debatable with beats

[@bb3xhrhj]

+leo sky Yes.

[@TheKillerDisturbed]

adamhouse9999 beats r da best evry1 knoes dat doctour dre handkrafts evry seengle 1 2 perfecshun

[@Walker998]

the doctor is mentally ill on corruptionitus

[@kbs7013]

I didn’t know Chris Pratt was a technology dude 😂

[@treebranch2223]

i mean he owns a spaceship

[@DrTopLiftDPT]

Just a another white guy huh. So racists lol

[@AksamRafiz]

@@DrTopLiftDPT nothing racist about his comment .

[@Boogyman1984]

Looks more like Badger from Breaking Bad.

[@AR-pl8rx]

@@DrTopLiftDPT How's it racist it had nothing to do with race lmao its just someone who has similar facial features to the actor

[@wenzthat5911]

Dude you’re Star-Lord!!

[@firesnake3325]

What the hell Guys?

[@tnetroP]

Bloody hell you're right. He's Star Lord!!!

[@tanmaysharma1364]

Lol. Yeah he kinda look like him.

[@rainerjoshuamarasigan6753]

True

[@infinityFIN]

Who?

[@kolikoasdpvp]

8:24 for sound quality

[@shantanupradhan2327]

Thanks bro 😁😁

[@contentdeleted7721]

Comments on this video: 1%: Nice review 99%: This guy looks like star lord

[@leif011]

I know it's not relevant to the video but your camera quality and lighting are superb. some of the best I've ever seen on KZbin.

[@HardwareCanucks]

Thank you 🙏 -D.

[@DJNuckChorris]

That's why I subbed to this guy way back in the day. Gamer's Nexus isn't bad but I hate watching 60fps, it makes me cringe for some reason.

[@uncreativename9936]

Yeah, SavageGeese is the only one who could give him a run for his money, but he makes totally different content so you can't really compare them.

[@zaittsev]

DJ Nuck Chorris What do you mean? What's the difference when watching?

[@LegeFles]

But it is relevant...

[@1AmGroot]

So in short: Gaming headphones have a mic that doesn't always sound good, and real headphones have better sound quality.

[@alexjoneschannel]

I'm using an arctis headset I'll be ordering some moondrop starfield iems which can plug into my headset so ill get that audio and have a really good mic thats noise cancelation is amazing from the headset

[@redace4821]

Yea pretty much, best choice is go for some mid price headphone (around 100 to 150, maybe 200$) with detachable cable and get a modmic or v-moda Or get a modmic anyway but using something like the Koss KSC75, cheap and sound great for the price.

[@user-jo6ko4eu5e]

This guy looks like Chris Pratt

[@ninji3434]

SEÑOR FLUFFY I was looking for this comment.

no, it is the Chris Pratt who is looking like this guy

[@TesserLink]

so does Sam from corridor digital.

[@dalemcfarlane5074]

Chris pratt would be 100X cooler if he did tech reviews like Dimitri

[@AC3dAvE]

SEÑOR FLUFFY brother from another mother.

[@kornenator]

People spend insane money on hardware to get proper visuals (high refresh rate screen and high fps to match it, high resolution and proper GPU to drive it, maybe HDR...). Why not spend to get proper audio as well? I'd say go for proper cans, and while you're at it, proper DAC and amps to drive them.

[@SpiceCh]

The issue is that the best headphones generally don't come with a microphone. Also sound is a lot more subjective and harder to get an impression of through online reviews and videos than frames per second, resolution and texture quality. You have to try a new headset on for a couple of days and then switch back to your old one before you're able to fully appreciate the difference in quality; something which generally isn't possible for most people without already committing to the purchase. This makes upgrading to a new pair of cans when you think the ones you've got already a very tough decision for a lot of people, whereas a simple picture on a website easily shows the difference between a new game rendered with a GTX 770 and high-end modern card, making the decision to upgrade visuals that much easier than upgrading sound.

[@rhoniereyventura1145]

"subjective and harder to get an impression of through online reviews" Which is in a way actually a good thing. Because you can audition them yourself in stores. At least from my neck of the woods, you don't get to do that with gaming headphones.

[@SpiceCh]

@@rhoniereyventura1145 many places won't let you try on a pair of expensive gaming headphones, let alone try multiple and borrowing them for a couple of days so you can do a proper comparison to your current setup. This makes informed purchase decisions practically impossible for the average consumer because it takes a while of actual use and then swapping back to your normal pair before you can really make a proper comparison.

[@rhoniereyventura1145]

Thats what I'm saying. You can't do that with Gaming headphones. While audiophile retailers have audition units you can hook up to your device, run the gamut of music and sound through and essentially have a fair idea how you feel about them. Didn't really know about that till I stumbled into one :D. Most intense experience was Stalker with real gun sounds mod. Nearly shat ma pants lols

[@blubblab4238]

Tamás Koppányi bk they spent all the money on the visuals!!😂

[@MarceldeGraaf]

That was cool and educational. Thank you.

[@HardwareCanucks]

Glad you enjoyed!

[@LaSombraa]

Marcel de Graaf Audiophile headphones 100%

[@arihkm]

People say you look like Chris Pratt, but actually Chris Pratt looks like you.

[@Mantodeavideos]

Generally for gaming some things to take note: -Comfort for wearing long hours, higher end audiophile headphones have a slight advantage since earpads can be changed -Good soundstage -Clear mids that do not feel hollow -Good treble extension: treble should be present and felt but not overly shrill or raspy sounding, also contributes to listening comfort -Bass needs to be fast and clear, should not bleed into mids, or feel boomy Something like HD600 series would be good. HD800 would not really be the best for some people not used to the treble peak, but this could be alleviated with change of earpads or mods I think.

[@hexa7427]

All the comments stemmed about “you look like Chris Pratt”. I say this to that... You do.

[@fairsaa7975]

Agreed

[@cahsahhhhhhhn]

Is only normal Russian Canadian man name of Dimitri, I have never hear of this Chris of Pratt you speak of!

[@frank7230]

@@cahsahhhhhhhn the main actor starring in the movie guardian of the galaxy that well befriended a speaking racoon with a gun

[@mega7253]

Shut up please

[@cubiccrowgoji8353]

Oh shit it's Chris Pratt

[@lokisrw]

I was just scrolling to find this comment before writing it!

[@cristobal8547]

canadian chris pratt

[@killerkhalsa27]

The walmart version..

[@jackofoxestail2578]

same here

[@dhanarputra555]

So this is what Chris Pratt do when off-screen.

[@simonbd5373]

0:18 *That shot was amazing*

[@prodrewcer4353]

after i saw that NCIX ad, straight went to the description to check the release date lolz

[@FilFee]

Rip NCIX

[@Sweet-Vermouth]

After I saw this comment, went straight to description to check release date

[@markbrown3587]

Corsair Vengeance 2100 and love it. I have a small child and need wireless. It sounds good and the mic picks up clearly without any breathing noise. I also like that when the mic is rotated up out of the way it automatically mutes. No more unwanted listening in.

[@issaccollier1453]

I got the void elite wireless and it's amazing. The mute is nice and the way they fit over the ears is superb

[@21ZacDUDE]

That ending was hilarious

[@Zman958]

+Zac VanVeen I like how he said "safe and SOUND" see what he did there?

[@21ZacDUDE]

+someone else yes lol

[@Ti133700N]

+Zac VanVeen 7.1 surround is for peasants, introducing 12.1 channel audio by Dmitry.

[@TheEmeraldboy100]

+Zac VanVeen He should've recorded the ending with all microphones in the headset and combine them into one track.

[@BeastOrGod]

+Zac VanVeen You ruined the ending by raising my expectations!

[@ihvdrm]

And don't forget, search for 'VR Ready' 😆

[@nitro400]

it's mainly labelled on pc/laptops to show whether the computer compatible with vr (virtual reality).

[@Mark-xw5yt]

@Gurnski Deti That's the joke, it just happened to fly over your head

[@7Tempest]

@Gurnski Deti r/wooooooosh

[@thepenguinwithagun7145]

@Gurnski Deti wooooooshhhhhhhhh

[@lenntronni5455]

@@thepenguinwithagun7145 we are Not on fucking Reddit

[@graphical7742]

He kinda looks like Chris Pratt...

[@levihackerman1337]

you mean crisp rat

[@davidsvensson1594]

Graphical crisp ratt

[@TimeForVodka]

Cunuck Pratt

[@zyronltz7494]

Graphical Why Chris Pratt? Pls understand the reference xd

[@amm0gamm0]

Demolition Ranch looks more like Chris Pratt

[@declanlowies9911]

In my opinion, any pair of headphones should have accurate frequency response instead of tuning it for a specific sound signature by emphasizing bass or treble. In this way, you can actually hear what the developers want you to hear.

[@dunkanlord]

yesterday got my dt990 and i love them sooooooo much doupt there can be that good gaming headset for that price + had already mod mic for like 45 euro

[@HardwareCanucks]

Mmmmm.. Love the DT990 series. Which omhs version did you get?

[@Wrathborn771]

+Ulvis Barkāns Loved my DT990's, but they were unfortunately extremely uncomfortable on my ears :(

[@dunkanlord]

Wrathborn771 for me out of the boxs was a bit hard but already after 1 day perfect because headphones are really light just cable is damn heavy but all coiled part rests on my desk +HardwareCanucks Cheapest :D 250Ohm but i got fiio e10k as well :)

[@Wrathborn771]

Ulvis Barkāns Yeah, but my ears are retarded (pointing a bit out/away from my head), so I need much space inside the cups for headphones to be comfortable. :(

[@nimrodery]

+Wrathborn771 I had to mod mine with some extra padding up top. I just used a spare pad from a crap Sennheiser set and now they're mad comfy.

[@ToasterMasterRace]

You look like Chris Pratt

[@therecklesspirate]

She's killing for sport

[@ToasterMasterRace]

TheRecklessPirate what

[@therecklesspirate]

+Toaster Master Race guess u haven't seen Jurassic World

[@ToasterMasterRace]

TheRecklessPirate I've seen it twice, but don't remember it that well lol

[@therecklesspirate]

+Toaster Master Race k I was like how does he not know that

[@MattsPaddock]

Dat ending though haha

[@miguelcoelho9303]

Heyy!

[@jamakasis18]

+TekTick He looked like one of those pro gamers during a tournament

[@MattsPaddock]

+Nigerian Sloth Yup! :)

[@sircharles5492]

But it wasn't really original since TekSyndicate used it already for their Video ^~^

[@sandresgr]

+TekTick Headphone bukkake

[@karmalacksskill773]

I just had this random 40 yr yelling at me on cod about how REAL surround sound was “only for pros” (such as himself) and now I get to send him this

[@repentandfollowjesuschrist6170]

I dont believe he is a pro gamer just some old loser talking trash

[@KiwiClawDHA]

I gkt 12 Klipsch speakers that I could make a gaming bubble of speakers. How is that for surround sound?

[@Avatariuz]

@disadadi Yea, well depends hardware also software running the sound, but imo real 5.1 headset is good but depends how it is used by the manufacturer.

[@Quiz6556]

I think I have seen the mod mic now for like 50 bucks which is nice considering its quality

[@HardwareCanucks]

It's excellent :D

[@LimeTimeHD]

over a blue snowball, which would have better audio quality? Since they are around the same price.

[@Molochkai]

Still the mic on the Razer kraken 7.1 and their Man o war headsets and the logitech artemis even sound better then the mod mic.

[@krisjanis9]

For 50 bucks might as well buy the blue snowball

[@fr3fou]

Zalman mic1 is cheaper and p sure it has better quality l m f a o

[@dabj9546]

I have the Razor Kraken and it sucks. The headphones sound ok but after a couple hours my ears hurt because the ear pads are round (they don't fit my ear maybe it fits very small ears). And the mic is just unusable because there are electrical feeping (?) noises that are as loud as my talking. Don't by it.

[@gamewarrior9107]

Da BJ use oval, not circle pads

[@saulinnes4095]

i’ve had mine 2 years and i love them i’m listening to this vid rn with them they r great!

[@conorl95Conorlynn]

I used to have the razer krakens and they also hurt my ears after awhile, but sound quality was decent and i never had any problems with the mic

[@xkxndwb4991]

I'm looking to get a minimic And a headset idk which one to get? Like my price range is under 80$ I was looking at the status audio cb1 will they be good?

[@erikdomstedt7190]

Da BJ yo stoped

[@amogh1148]

Star lord is giving headphone review

[@kathleensarkeesian8506]

That's not Star-Lord, that's Chris Pratt!

[@ducktape-3470]

Yep. Music nerd. Totally gets it.

[@ProtoPropski]

Real vs Gaming, so gaming headsets aren't real? Oh man, my life's been a lie.

[@wngdhssr]

Yup

[@exeee7580]

Oh

[@exeee7580]

you are a headset Right!

[@Cypeq]

It's unreal how bad are most of the gaming headsets

[@sintervinter7233]

Cocks Gun* It always has been

[@bigbossjones7585]

So are Gaming headphones not real?

[@whatisthis-uw9ok]

How can they be real if our ears aren't real?

[@bigbossjones7585]

whatisthis131321213 wtf

[@TheTemplarnight]

Well gaming headphones can be fine, I've owned the G633's shown in the video and I have no idea what was wrong with his headset but the mic on the G633's sounds nothing like that, it's actually a bit to over sensitive so it'll pick up your voice perfectly but it'll also pick up a paperclip dropping on the other end of your house, they sound great but they don't get all that loud so if you like super loud music not for you. A good headset if your interested in a bit more of a serious gamer setup is the asus rog headset with the amp, it's great for music, has fantastic sound and pretty good mic quality, looks awesome and I've worn it for 12+ hrs and not had any neck strain, If you have delicate ears/head it does clamp down a little harder than normal but as a result it doesn't fall off or slide around at all, the earcups are insanely padded and comfortable, but it offers no tunning software so its done all through the physical amp which has 3 preset sound modes and allows you to manually adjust the volume of each channel it's true 7.1 surround 7, 5 drivers per earcup i think it is. but if your an audio snob or just really into having the best possible sound for everything then nothings going to beat a studio headset, but just know for gaming in pubg for example I often hear far away gunshots long before my friend with his sennheiser hears anything, so it's not all just Gimmicks it does actually work. and just an added bonus the amp does have volume control on it and all that, but it also allows you to plug it a 5.1/7.1 speaker setup into it and switch with just the push of a button, the amp and 7.1 can also be toggled on and off.

[@bigbossjones7585]

TheTemplarnight holly shit that was long. It was a joke just because the title says *REAL*headphones vs gaming headphones

[@TheTemplarnight]

hard to tell, cause people on youtube especially word genuine questions in some really retarded ways, but I figured I'd give my info regardless, even if you where joking someone passing by might find it of use.

[@user-xp5wl7uk5i]

that moment when you have a cloud 2 and then you find out that they were soupossed to be normal headset :/

[@jakobwilmer]

If you have open-back headphones, will it leak trough your microphone? So if you´re skyping will they here what you're listening to?

[@tehsupertoilet]

no not really i have open back headphones. my problem is getting my cherry red keyboard to not play through the mic

[@TheMacCloud]

have you tried putting small clear o-rings on the stems of your cherry mx switches? can help reduce the sound somewhat.

[@tehsupertoilet]

that's a lot of o rings

[@tehsupertoilet]

the o rings would be on the inner part of the key and not the stem the key attaches to right?

[@tehsupertoilet]

cause thats not a bad idea

[@hellrizerusa2797]

I feel like you missed out on the Astro A50. They are good headphones and I always like it’s a must when it comes to gaming headphones comparisons.

[@Zadial]

I've had so many (dead) headsets I don't count anymore :'( Just ordered the siberia h wireless over the g933 lets hope for the best

[@HardwareCanucks]

Should have gone with a Sennheiser pair. The Siberia H is fine, but quite tight. The Clamping force is just too much.

[@jspeer1313]

HardwareCanucks which Sennheiser would you recommend that also has a Mic to use with my desktop and can use to play games? nothing over $400 though... hopefully below $300.

[@jspeer1313]

more specifically, wireless headsets. I can't stand being tethered to the tower.

[@Zadial]

HardwareCanucks Hey ! Just received my siberia, fits really well and feel very comfortable .. Lets see if I feel the same after a few hours wearing them

[@stoom8665]

how's it going?

[@gaborbarla]

Hi Dmitry, I never understood how sound engineers could allow something like 5.1 headphones, with multiple drivers to happen. When you sit in the living room, surround sound is amazing because slight movement of your head establishes (pinpoint) the surround effect. In a lounge 5.1 setup, the time between the sound takes to go in one the go in the other ear is what makes us recognise if the sound is from the the front or the back. The brain recognises as we turn our head the direction of the first sound is from the more forward ear. In multi driver headphones this, does not happen as the drivers move as you turn your head with your head. The effect must occur between both your ears, and for this a virtual 7.1 surround can simulate this effect pretty amazingly. 7.1 virtual surround works great, especially if it well implemented. Sound algorithms can trick our brains into hearing various directions very well. I just wanted to elaborate why I think physical multi driver 5.1 or 7.1 solutions don't work at all. When you have only two ears, blasting the ear from a driver a little more forward is not what makes it hear it from the front. Our ears are not omnidirectional, they work out direction based on delay between the (only) 2 directions.

[@AsitorCorporation]

At Christmas time, my Nana and Grandad bought me "Beats Solo HD" headphones. I couldn't face the idea of telling her that I hate the brand, and my £50 Skull Candy headphones are twice as good and yet the Beats cost £160. The annoying bit is, my Mum said she helped chose the gift, and 2 months before christmas, she asked me if I wanted beats and I said how they're the worst brand and they are a complete scam. I'm just going to wait until June or something and buy myself some Sennheisers or anything else.

[@jack79995]

+Captain Capellini How are they a scam? Just curious, not defending the brand. (I do enjoy beats though, as why my curiosity is sparked)

[@dennisplayinglacrosse]

+Jack Tupper The sound isn't too bad but they over price the headphones *a lot*. I don't remember the mark-up percentage but it is around 300% (if I remember correctly...)

[@WolfsGamingBlog]

+Jack Tupper They are scam because the actual cost of the components within then is tiny, while the price is huge, with an estimate 3000% profit margin. Not a scam, in the true sense of the word, but certain absurd.

[@jack79995]

Ethan Thai Let me rephrase that. I should've touched on the worst brand part of the comment instead of the scam part. I will agree that they are extremely overpriced, but I didn't understand the "worst brand" part.

[@jack79995]

WGB Read my recent reply.

[@david1235102]

Wow, I normally can't stand when big channels try to describe audio or headphones because much of the information is a bit misleading, over-simplified, or just plain wrong. This video is very informative and very well done. Good job HWC! My two favorites for gaming: Budget - Philips SHP9500S paired with a V-Moda Boom Pro mic/cable. My current favorite for gaming - Sennheiser HD700 paired with a ModMic 5. I did try the HD800S with ModMic 5 when I owned them but I felt its upper midrange recession didn't help with gaming. The HD700 is better overall. When playing with an Xbox controller, the HD800S was a little too hard to drive. I had to have the volume almost all the way up just to get to moderate volume from the headphones. The HD700 is only half the impedance of the HD800S and works just fine out of an Xbox One wireless controller.

[@Bregott07]

R.I.P whoevers wallet paid for the HD 800.

[@VisaxLP]

Funny, im Looking to buy a 800s (currently having a 598). But using an AMP is a given with headphones that price, so driving them will not be the issue.

[@Hero-yj9nv]

This channel deserves better. Half a million boo he should have half a billion

[@HardwareCanucks]

+H3b1vEn Csgo ha thanks :)

[@cpthippieholdaccount1303]

H3b1vEn Csgo Maybe not half billion but somewhere in that range

[@eashw4r]

He on 700k now, hope you're happy 😂😂

[@jackbialek409]

But theirs only 7 million people in the world?

[@eashw4r]

Jack Bialek billion*

[@SpiceCh]

The G4ME ONE headset at 6:15 (and its siblings) has a flexible mic boom, so while the popping and blowing sounds pretty extreme in the clip, it could easily be fixed by flexing the mic further away from the face.

[@tobiasthie8838]

I have the Sennheiser PC 360 for a few years now and the comfort for long gaming sessions like LAN-Parties is amazing. After 5+ Hours of Use you really forget about the Headset because it's really light. You get also an intuitive MicMute Switch, you just flip the Mic to the top. The Sound is also clear and in Games like CS:GO it's useful to hear your enemy before he get's to you.

[@tobiasthie8838]

Forgot Price: Around 150€ in Germany around 4 years ago

[@HardwareCanucks]

wow nice pick up! Amazing headset for sure!

[@boreos3499]

Dude the thoroughness and quality of your reviews are super solid. Thanks for putting in the time and effort.

[@ThorgeirSkulason]

If you want to know more about how "Real" headphones can simulate 3D sound. Google "Head Related Transfer Function" or HRTF. It's possible to simulate near-perfect 3D audio experience with well calibrated HRTF. I did an audio engineering project on HRTF at university. Ever since then, I haven't bought into the 5.1 surround thing... Good marketing gimmick though.

[@adrianlugo1130]

Thorgeir Skulason what headphones were you using

[@mrhenry4907]

Beats are trash every headphone today has better sound Quality

[@lnasilvia]

yeah it sucks and overpriced

[@derpmeep9773]

D MERCHANT your fuckin high what are you smoking

[@Mark-xw5yt]

@@derpmeep9773 It is well known by people who don't blindly trust tv ads that beats dont have great sound quality especially at that price

[@dillanm8285]

Have you gone into a store and listened for yourself. They aren't the best but they are really good. Don't knock it unless you have tried it. Also different for different ears always keep that in mind

[@sosakun3474]

Dillan M people act like a $20 headset has better sound quality lol...i swear these bandwagoning sheep are deaf. beats are fine, little expensive for the product. but theyre by no means in anyway garbage like every exaggerates it as

[@Afvall]

What would you recomend for best surround sound? I'm currently playing Rainbow Six Siege where the sound also works verry differently compared to other shooters. Only reason I'm looking for a new headphone.

[@itsabouteverything2715]

Hyperx cloud stinger

[@raa9667]

ZeusZ a bit late but the Sennheiser HD 598 are amazing for Rainbow as I own a pair and also play rainbow.

[@Coffeeandacigarette]

Ath ad-500x. You will hear everything and know precisely where it is. Light on bass though.

[@AniketLamba]

ZeusZ I also play R6 and I'm thinking of grabbing a pair of HS50's from Corsair.They are on sale for 40$ in my country.Should I get them or are there any alternatives? Let me know.

[@Babybarschalarm]

Literally any headphone and a program called spatial sound-card

[@florent680]

What is the head set name presented with the additional microphone at 8:00 please ?

[@EagleOfDestiny1]

Hey Dimitri, should I get the HyperX Cloud 2 with Razer Surround or the HD 558 with Razer Surround? I want to play CS GO and pinpoint footsteps accurately. I checked the HD 598 but heard it's not good for bass and I want to be able to listen to music too. Thanks.

[@HardwareCanucks]

+EagleOD1 HD598 for CS:GO

[@EagleOfDestiny1]

+HardwareCanucks Alright, thanks :)

[@deimosphob]

I wouldn't personally recommend using surround software, if you go to the virtual barbershop test, you can try it with and without the surround, and you can't really tell the difference between stereo and surround.

[@EagleOfDestiny1]

+Deimos Phob Will do, thanks. I still do not know which headphones to get and it's frustrating me >.> I don't want the open headphones because I create videos and use an external mic infront if my mouth and it seems to pickup all the sound leakage, so best shot is probably the Cloud 2 at stereo.

[@EagleOfDestiny1]

+Deimos Phob Oh also, I heard KZbin doesn't actually support 7.1 :/

[@macho10101]

Still looking for a headset at the moment.. Dont want to spend more then 100 euro tho.. I used to have turtle beach but they are so easy to break

[@mr.anonym4550]

Macho ツ The best gaming Headset in my opinion is the hyper x cloud 2 and my favourite “normal“ headphones are the beats solo 2 wireless

[@mr.anonym4550]

Macho ツ The best gaming Headset in my opinion is the hyper x cloud 2 and my favourite “normal“ headphones are the beats solo 2 wireless

[@kronosthegod9811]

Primex you've probably never used a real pair of head phones if beats are your favorite.....

[@macho10101]

Kronos the god Yeah had the same thought... Beats are way too overpriced and aren't even good at all in my opinion.. Its like the Apple of the headphones

[@mr.anonym4550]

I bought them for 170 euros instead of 300 :D 300 would be waaaaay to much :P but i use them in the gym ( wireless is rly nice ) and i think it was an good investment

[@MarcoDaNub]

those hd 800 cost 8x the price of a high end gaming headphones lol

[@lhl2500]

Marco Estrada Yeah... And he glued a neodymium magnet on it. Right next to the voice coil. Where's that face-palm emoji when you need it.

[@finn6612]

Yeah. And then he clips a fucking magnet onto the grill near the driver.

[@voltenic4437]

8x the price huh thats probably a crappy "high end" gaming headset

[@MorganBlem]

I'm pretty sure virtual surround sound also works by adding a delay between playing sound on either side of the headphone. Our brains use the fact that the speed of sound is kind of slow, and so sound arrives at either ear at different times, to isolate positional audio. Virtual surround sound uses that to emulate the same thing and trick your brain into thinking it's from a particular location.

[@Poifix]

HyperX gaming headsets are the best out there for a good price. Still use my cloud 2. Not looking to change soon.

[@omprakashsahu4798]

I am using my HyperX Cloud Stinger for PUBG

[@Poifix]

@@omprakashsahu4798 Nice! How is it? :D

[@ghostly1829]

No cooler master is because on Amazon mh752 is 75 bucks while cloud 2 is 100 bucks and the mh752 is a rebrand of takstar 82 while hyperx is takstar80

[@Rubmine531]

@@ghostly1829 jep

[@crimsonwolf7579]

Got some cloud flights in 2019 and sound awesome. Had some connection problems at the beginning but they have started to go away

[@maxanderson7871]

Does NCIX still sell insurance that is always included with all credit cards?

[@Qorelin]

Does NCIX still exist?

[@xSociety]

Wait, $100 for the ModMic 4.0? You got ripped off, got mine for $40.

[@Maxi86inAction]

Canadian dollars though, it costs 60€ in germany, that would be around 90-100 canadian dollars

[@xSociety]

Vilius VK Okay, but with the current exchange rate, 40 US dollars is equivalent to ~55 Canadian dollars. No need to be rude though bro.

[@dinckelman]

+Maxi86inAction i got mine for 50$ with shipping to Spain

[@michaelstrom5826]

I got mine for 35 cad through massdrop. 100 is a little over exaggerated

[@Hiebly]

I don't know for certain but I expect in Canada Modmic could be close to $100. The omnidirectional mic is like $50 US. This is like $70 CAD and then there's shipping/duties or whatever to get it to Canada. Furthermore it seems like the past year or so stuff is further inflated in Canada, I'm guessing beacuse the Canadian dollar is very shaky and there's a good chance it could continue to drop in value. like 3 years ago we were worth more than the American dollar, and now we're worth 72 cents. :l

[@Avean]

Just want to add one thing though: Although its very true gaming headsets are mostly marketing gimmicks there are some that truly are engineered for games in general. I had a talk with a Sennheiser engineer since i wondered about the same. I presented them a HD650 which is a studio headset, a damn good one might i say versus the GSP lineup from Sennheiser. They actually said GSP 500/600 wins in games as they perform way better in sub 80Hz range which the studio set didnt pick up at all. So that was kinda crazy to hear and it should be way more known since most audio fanatics believe studio headsets are the best there is......... but theyre response was basicly...studio headsets are made for music, thats it!

[@RoddSantiago]

i have lost count on how many times i tried to explain this to gamers i know and they just end up buying them anyway. Anyway, whenever i use headphones to game i use earbuds (can´t use full sized cans since i live in a damn hot place) some chinese brands have some budget beasts.

[@MaZEEZaM]

I live in Australia and before I made more frequent use of my aircon my ears used to sweat a lot with headphones on while gaming and often caused ear infections. I would like to use ear buds for air circulation but I don’t because the style of earphone blasts the sound directly into your ear canal and causes much greater damage to your ears than full size headphones. I either don’t wear them in really hot weather or put the air conditioning on as I don’t want to damage my hearing by using ear buds.

[@permaxi]

NCIX? Thats what linus used to say when NCIX didnt go bankrupt

[@Devilsnevercry43]

Thanks, the Logitech will be the one i'll be getting, the mic is too good to pass on!

[@HardwareCanucks]

Yes its VERY good. Which are you getting the wired G633 or wireless G933 ?

[@Devilsnevercry43]

Heh, now that i have watched yours and other reviews of the HyperX Stinger, i'm torn between logitech and hyperx. Also, i've been hearing how a lot of players seem to know like the 7.1 surround for gaming, which makes me wonder why, i'm open to new ideas.

[@Devilsnevercry43]

Appreciate the feedback.

[@Devilsnevercry43]

Sounds good too, thank you for the advice.

[@kayuzz323]

so what are u gonna buy or what DID you buy?

[@DanResanti]

very good and informative video, awesome job dude!

[@PneumaticFrog]

How did he put a mic on those senheisers?! Can someone link me to a mic like that?

[@HardwareCanucks]

+PneumaticFrog that's a ModMic 4.0, we have a review of it on the channel! Check it out.

[@PneumaticFrog]

HardwareCanucks thanks!

[@PneumaticFrog]

***** any good sounding with not much bass headsets (open back ones) that don't have an obscenely shitty mic (hissing sound, etc) but at an affordable price tag? At the most $100 AUD

[@PneumaticFrog]

***** link?

[@jamesmelton7637]

That price point, $100 AUD, is going to be tough if you want quality. Also, after going with separate mic and headset I will never buy a gaming headset with a built-in mic again. Consider AKG M220 headphones and a CAD U37 or maybe a Blue Snowball iCE mic. It's going to run over $100 but should be under $150AUD

[@lilchapstickakayungdimenti5319]

Rip linus

[@futurez14]

Has Dmitry dropped him?

[@Yafama]

andrew futures no ncix

[@kingsancada6337]

What I can say is Linus has a lot more experience than him but your Actually Right Lolz

[@basshead.]

Linus is the smartest tech KZbinr.

[@XekTOr89]

Also the most annoying.

[@reJECT0]

wait you stuck a modmic on top of the HD800's grill? the fuck man?

[@hokiepokie]

+KingOfKink Shouldn't affect sound quality in noticable way,though.

[@reJECT0]

+Thijs Rutjes If you got open headphones try and place your finger on one side, i can guarantee it's noticeable.

[@btoiscool]

+KingOfKink People like doing weird shit for fun vov

[@Sc0rp83]

+KingOfKink Where was he supposed to put that clip then? On the headband?

[@reJECT0]

+s4eed The bottom?

[@StayMadNobodycares]

meanwhile I'm using an old fatality/creative headset covered in dog hair, repaired with superglue very dated but still works. The beagle hair adds to the sound experience.

[@Delbs1]

AKG K712. Not much known, but really good tho xD

[@kurczaken]

yea just recabled and modded them, they are now like little brother of HD800

[@harleysq]

yep

[@n00baTr00pa]

Cables change nothing. Unless, you have made them balanced, of course.

[@bubuluslustikus5557]

i also have these but i prefer sennheiser hd700 for gaming. for music i rly like the cheaper k701 more. unfortunately i dont have them anymore.

[@jamesmelton7637]

What mic solution do you use?

[@petercruz1993]

I just ordered some Sennheiser HD 558 for £60 I don't think i can go wrong (hopefully)

[@Heburntmyshake]

never can go wrong with sennheiser, just make sure you have a good dac and amp to get the most out of them

[@petercruz1993]

Any recommendations? I want the cheapest dac that is decent if possible :)

[@Heburntmyshake]

You need a dac amp combo, I'd recommend a USB mixer, buy one from Yamaha or beringer

[@JS19000]

The Sennheiser HD558 are fairly easy to power so you wouldn't need a amp that's very powerful. Heres two good amp/DACS. Audioquest Dragonfly Black (make sure it's not the DF 1.0 or 1.2) Monoprice desktop amp/DAC www.monoprice.com/product?p_id=11567 The Dragonfly Black has a better DAC chip and better sound quality but the Monoprice amp/DAC has more power. Both will power HD 558's fine. This is about the cheapest you can go. Anything lower and you start to get low quality stuff that isn't worth buying.

[@petercruz1993]

JS19000 I have an asus z170 pro gaming motherboard with a small sound card in it. Will these be much of an improvement? The dragonfly does look good. Thanks for the reply, much appreciated :)

[@spoicydeemer985]

Logitech g633 Artemis spectrum :DDD got it for my dad for father's day :3

[@TehTrizy]

You are probably your dads favorite child xD.

[@spoicydeemer985]

he plays cod a gta 5 online, so a good pair of headphones for that is required :D

[@Molochkai]

yeah however, the senheisers cost more and are worse in all departments, go figure.

[@hamstythehamster1813]

What sennheiser is that at 5:45

[@ramilmirzayev1753]

Who is watching this vid because their mic broke

[@wiryishere]

me

[@กาตูนษอนไจโรบอก]

me too

[@TheBl4cKH4wK]

Yup. But this 5€ thingy lasted for years.

[@domenicotrinci5104]

🙋🏽‍♂️

[@ryvikun4325]

Me

[@XxPlus6xX]

$100 for mod mic? Dude I bought mine for $40

[@Lycosa]

+Bruce Wayne Yeah man depends where you are. and even 30-60 is expensive. For me they would cost maybe 50€

[@SimpleSock]

+Bruce Wayne Canadian dollars. We're in a recession at the moment FeelsBadMan.

[@ajboyd4652]

my V Moda mic is only 30 bucks and it's very high quality

[@kevinclinthorne]

+abplus boyd Good mic, but compatible with less things due to the requirement of a detachable 3.5 mm cable. Certainly a more elegant solution if you have a setup it will work with

[@crtest]

+SimpleSock I bought my modmic for $45 CAD (4.0 version). It was on massdrop.

[@MissAiaGaming]

Personally, I use my Bose QC25 and freestanding mic for my gaming and teamspeak etc. Since I live near other people, it's nice to have the noise cancelling and people always comment on my mic quality being amazing

[@ThePixelro]

Wow, I use exactly the same

[@lucien3956]

Same here :)

[@jaju123456]

+Brittany Clark Soundstage is probably horrible, and active noise cancellation adds distortion.

[@ChiHoKo]

hope you are not playing fps games with that headphones lol

[@kraseidon]

I use the Bose Soundtrue only thing is it doesn't have noise cancelling

[@SilaDrenja]

I personally have G432 headphones, and I love them. It claims it has 7.1(not sure if it's real or virtual) but it works great, I'm sound whoring in games so knowing where the sound is comming from is important to me. It also has subwoofer, which I love, and logitech gaming hub provides great customizability options for my headset. Microphone is not as good, but it's OK. The feature I LOVE is "sidetone", which repeats my microphone input to my headphones with minimal delay, which is great in-game when I don't hear myself because my headphones have a great noise insulation.

[@VannHanne]

What I’ve learn is that a non-gaming headset are really good when you listen to music and a gaming headset the bass is just way higher so it might not sound good

[@Agati192]

I got my HE-400i a little over two years ago, and I still have not found someone on cs:go who can hear enemies before me.

[@legione1capone]

I own and play on Ad700x and an he400i. The Ad700x is better for fps hands down than the he400i. Plus for the average consumer to get the bets audio out of the he400i you can't just plug them into your computer and your good to go. They require a powerful headphone amp an dvery much like a good dac. I run both off of an aune x1s, and the he400i get power form a schiit magnificent 2 Uber. The Ad700x does sound much better with a good quality dac like every other headphone but is very easy to drive otherwise. The transitional and direction audio is spot on with the Ad700x. You will never not hear your enemy. It's not that the he400i are bad I play with them all the time, it's just for fps the Ad700x are superior.

[@chefboahise1109]

What’s the Real Difference?

[@MaZEEZaM]

The real difference is the clarity of the sound, it’s like the difference between high definition and standard definition resolution audio or video.

[@irun2sanaxox]

honestly everything, reference are better in every way. soundstage which is how narrow wide something can sound, imaging which is how accurately you depict individual sounds, and overall sound quality. if you listen to some good headphones on a good Dac/Amp you’ll be blown away

[@irun2sanaxox]

if you wanna know more then just comment back, getting into the audio world can be a fun hobby

[@eneskonak8129]

@HardwareCanucks @1:48 where do you have these awesome Desktopbackgrounds? :D

[@singgeul8865]

I feel life he looks like jackblack while sideviewed or im just seeing things

[@chakdeuk]

Yep!! NACHOOOOOOOOOO LIBREEEE!

[@SpartanX317]

Try the Plantronics RIG 500HX or higher. It's amazing in games like Battlefield 1 and other FPS's. My favorite so far and I've had mine for a year and they're modular and I do plan on getting the esports ear cups and the new wireless RIG 800LX

[@jaeffstarkmann]

I use the Bowers&Wilkins PX, they are really great for music basically, but also very neutral and analytic sounding, so the impactful overall sound keeps me using these with a webcam microphone which is actually very detailed...

[@hamzasaeed918]

he77b0y It’s been a year since your comment. How’s the build? Some complained about there being a flimsy hinge. And any other comments you wanna make?

[@mlgxsunbro9480]

Does any one know what the white gaming head set is in the middle at 5:24 ???

[@mad1pengu619]

Remember when NCIX was a thing...

[@danioan8182]

Try Audio-technica AVC500 with FiiO E10K = Eargasm.

[@sol666]

Finally someone decided to put up the most informative video on headphones I have seen to date! Every video so far on how to choose a headphone has been nothing but a shit load of opinions on what the commentator and his buddies like. but I was still a bit disappointed about the video breezing by the "Real surround sound headphone" topic! u see I own a razer tiamat 7.1, and contrary to all the nay sayers, I learned through a little bit of an enthusiast curiosity that tiamat 7.1 are amazing and extremely under rated headphones. fact is that to date there are only 3 known real 7.1 surround sound headphones (5.1 claim they get more room for bigger drivers but their sound quality was poorer then Tiamat 7.1). Tiamat 7.1 being the archetype for the ASUS Strix 7.1 and G.Skillz Ripjaw SR910. Unfortunately for the other 2 Razer got it right the first time, while the other two face some serious flaws in their implementation. I have heard/read plenty of negative comments on the tiamat 7.1 ranging from, "it's bass is too boomy" or "earphones sound better then it" to just plain "Don't buy it!". But I did buy it and learned that those who left negative comments on the tiamat 7.1 either did not know how to use a PC sound equilizer setting properly, or did not read the manual for their tiamat 7.1 properly or simply too lazy to get their hands dirty on the PC audio setting interfaces. First, what is real surround sound headphone compared to virtual surround sound headphone? a real surround sound headphone as explained in the video is a headphone that has separate audio channels for drivers in the ear piece of the headphone. for 7.1 each ear piece has 5 drivers making a total of 10 in the headphone, while a 5.1 contains 4 in each ear piece for a grand total of 8 drivers. which ever type u choose they will always have a pair of dedicated bass drivers (meaning those drivers cannot hit high frequency notes) while the rest can easily hit the full upper range of sound frequency. Oh before I get ahead there is another key characteristic of a true surround sound headphone that I should mention: They are completely analog! I am not talking about headphone jacks, I am saying no "dolby prologic II" (used in all virtual surround sound headsets) synthesizing and managing surround sound channels for it. so how do they manage surround channels? that is what ur motherboard sound chip and full PCI sound cards are for. Tiamat 7.1 was designed exactly for this purpose. Instead of altering and mixing surround sound output on a sub standard headphone mounted sound logic chip like the virtual surround sound headphones do, tiamat 7.1 specifically Demands it's buyers to be prepared to purchase a proper PCI sound card!Once u have done as instructed, u need to spend some time tuning the sound card and counter tuning the headphone volume controller and the result is perfect balance of strong bass, crisp mid range and clear treble! I bought tiamat 7.1 over the other two for certain design reasons: 1) ASUS Strix is the most user friendly true surround sound headset. by user friendly I mean it limits users to sound profiles that are preset on it's sound card box. Yes Asus Strix is Analog and has a sound card housed in a game console like box. In addition it uses an unorthodox HDMI plug on it's headset and a usb connecting the sound card box to PC. It does not have a software interface for additional options and is entirely dependent on that sound card box for input. If that box was broken that head phone will be no better then a massive paper weight. plus the lack indepth individual channel sound control made my choice of dropping it easier. 2)Ripjaw SR-90 is the new kid on the block, analog like ASUS Strix 7.1 but an even poorer implementation compared to Asus! If the uncomfortable head design doesn't get u the round earpiece turned out to be smaller then required and the drivers are crammed inside it in an arrangement that ruins the directional quality of the sound channels. 3) I chose Tiamat 7.1 originally out of curiosity. Ask ur self why a company reputed to be a top gamer choice brand would implement something that sounds like shit? I first plugged it into an onboard sound card and it proved everyone who talked trash about it right! It literally sounded like my fathers old analog radio! No matter what adjustments I did to the motherboard sound chip it did not sound any better. Then I followed the one instruction people have a penchant to ignore: "BUY A GOD DAMN PCI SOUND CARD!". I bought an old ASUS DSX and put it in my PC. When I fired up the headphone this time it was like fireworks in my ears! The headphones sound profile had changed instantly from absolute trash to platinum brand! ok I might be over stating it! but it's quality was miles above what it sounded like on an onboard sound chip. Turns out the onboard sound chips do not have enough power to overcome the driver resistance threshold (it is measured in Ohm with the symbol of Omega lets call it the ability to resist work) of each of the 8 normal drivers of the headphone, while the subwoofer drivers have such a low resistance that when the headphone is run on an onboard sound chip it is all bass! switching to a PCI sound card corrected that problem as they are powered separately by the power supply. With a little adjustment to the PCI sound card, the OS System audio setting and the headphone channel volume, It was the best god damn audio headphone I had ever used (not comparing it to the sennheiser audiophile headphones those things are for people with expensive taste in music). After testing the equalizers a bit I concluded that Tiamat 7.1 is an incredible audio chameleon. I had absolute control over how each channel would sound and each profile gave me a different audio environment in game. All it took was a little effort, getting down and dirty with the system settings, something that true PC enthusiasts are not afraid to do. The surround sound did give me that sudden on/off channel issue mentioned in the video but that is only in a couple of games so far, that problem may have more to do with game developers ignoring audio quality leaving it entirely to virtual synthesizing tools that have hardly been upgraded in the past 15 years! Even the Dolby Pro logic engine that powers all virtual surround sound headphone softwares has not seen an upgrade in 10 years XD. These softwares are prone to calculation errors that make virtual sound quality different from real sound quality. Compared to old games that had immersive 3D sound environments ingame showing their dedication to surround sound systems. game developers today have done very little work in improving surround sound quality and more often abandon it at the mercy of automated sound synthesizing tools in order to work on visual quality...and yet their games still get a mediocre rating....I wonder why?

[@SniPringles]

^ I want to read it all but... Its so long

[@kimkickout]

ImNotSalty basically, when you buy the Razer tiamat 7.1, you must also buy a sound card dedicated to it to have the most beautiful true surround sound (not in including high end audiophile grade headphones) or you will be like everyone else and talk sht to Razer.

[@SniPringles]

michael kim oliver Daguitera Ok thanks!

[@PragMaliceTV]

The biggest problem with 7.1 headphones is that they're trying to solve a problem that stereo headphones can do just fine *if* a game's audio engineers have done their work to create proper headphone tracks/effects. You only have two ears to hear things and the way your brain processes direction in audio is based on subtle delays between one ear and the other. That's right, you get surround sound out of stereo. However, it's also why it can sometimes be difficult to pinpoint a source of sound in an echo-prone environment... all the reflections of sound create conflicting signals for your brain to process. Enter the typical TV setup where all the sound is coming from in front of you from 8+ feet away. You can't really simulate the proper reflections of an environment from that far away without making it just sound echo-filled, so you add physical speakers all around you and encode parts of the sound that are supposed to come from different speakers. Voila, you get to hear things all around you with some degree of relative precision. With headphones it's a bit different since the sound source is right there next to your ear. In some cases, audio engineers will have either used binaural recordings (two separate mics situated where ears would normally be) and/or binaural simulation of effects in order to present sounds to each ear that accurately represent the subtle audio reflections of a given virtual environment and you get to hear in surround sound just fine. Most don't quite go that far and instead just offer a "Headphone" mode that effectively takes all the channels of a 7.1 or 5.1 signal and recomposes them back into a stereo signal meant to sit around your ears instead of in front of you. And now here's the rub. If you get a pair of 7.1 or 5.1 headphones, that's all it's doing too. It's just slamming all that directional sound into a very small space effectively rendering it into a stereo signal as far as your ears could tell. You're just using more connections and drivers in order to use a 7.1 setting that isn't really any better than plain stereo headphones connected using a headphone setting. Now, you might argue that the ear has the pinna that can direct and distort sound from different directions and it's in a compact space so why not closely and strategically placed drivers? In theory this is absolutely possible. However, you would likely need a full array of drivers in a geodesic grid formation with distinct channel separation for each driver to really pull that off. We're talking a 100+.1 pair of headphones with drivers so small that to listen to them at any substantive volume could threaten to damage the drivers. And there isn't really such a thing as real vs simulated surround sound. The only type of surround that isn't totally simulated is the binaural stuff that literally records what two ears would hear, but that usually means you're confined to a fixed position or point of view. It's great for recording something where you would normally have the luxury of sitting still like a front row seat for an orchestra performance, but not so much for video games and the like. Everything else is just taking mono or sometimes stereo sources and processing it into virtual surround channels at various levels in order to simulate surround sound. Whether you compose those channels back into a stereo signal in software and play it through stereo headphones or spit them out to separate dedicated drivers is kind of moot. In the rare case where a game doesn't offer a dedicated headphone mode (i.e. there's only a stereo option tailored for TVs or desk speakers), you can still use 3rd party software like Dolby Atmos, Razer Surround, the new Windows Sonic setting in Win10 creators update, or even a more expensive but fancy option like Out of Your Head that will take a 7.1 signal and compose it into quality stereo for you. The only thing you really need to do is make sure you have a reasonably good pair of headphones with decent sound stage and frequency response and you should be set. No fancy sound cards or gimmicky driver configuration is needed at all. With that said, a good sound card, or better yet an external DAC, is great for cleaning up and amplifying the sound beyond what your motherboard might be able to offer, but it certainly isn't necessary for surround sound.

[@greymanjones5559]

Thank you for the good and easy explanations on the differences

[@mephistovonfaust]

I'm not much of a gamer but I am a music producer... The best headphones imao are the Beyerdynamic DT990 Pro. They are around 140€ and give the truest sound for me. No bs EQing going on there. The only downside of them is that the cable is non detachable.

[@wohlrabferdinand]

What do you think about the 770 pro ?

[@mephistovonfaust]

wohlrabferdinand They are great for artist recording because they do not bleed as much but not really great for mixing or listening to music, watching movies, gaming,... Closed studio headphones are made for recording and nothing else, even though it's overkill for recording imao. For recording I use cheap 30€ headphones from Superlux and they are fine for that. The drivers are actually the same in the whole range of the DT 770, DT 880 and the DT 990. I'd always recommend the 990 unless you want to take them on the move, for example on the train. Open headphones have extreme bleeding but that's the price you pay for having the almost same experience as if you're listening over studio monitors. So to put it simple. If you want to record with them on your ears I'd recommend the DT 770 but they get pretty uncomfortably because they get hot (no ventilation) and the sound is not the greatest. For music on the go or an all around workhorse the DT 880 but they cost almost double as the other two (I don't know why since they are almost identical) and the DT 990 are the best for sound quality but you can't use them for recording and not really on the go. Another thing to remember is that you have to look out which kind of them you get. They all have difference resistances and the more resistance you have the quieter the sound will be and you might want to consider getting a DAC or a good audio interface with them. I own the 250 Ohm DT 990 for mixing and for HiFi as well and I consider them the best in their respective category but like I said, nothing for the go or to record and they are really quiet on my phone for example but over my interface they sound great and are really loud. I usually don't turn it up more that an 8th of it's capability. Sry for the long post but this is a very deep topic :P

[@dufonrafal]

derKampfschimmel hi, ever heard the FOCAL Spirit Professional? I use the cheaper Spirit One S (179€ MSRP but found them at 89€) and they sound awesome, very neutral with high bass extension (they go low in frequencies but don't have overpowered bass) and a very low THD. So far, I love them.

[@mephistovonfaust]

dufonrafal Hi. No I have never heard of them but great if you love them. They are gaming/hifi headphones right? Those are sadly useless to me since they don't have the required dynamic range you need for audio production in general. It would probably rip their membrane. If headphones sound good to you then you should use them, at least on a consumer level.

[@dufonrafal]

derKampfschimmel Nope not really. Focal is best known for their really high-end HiFi speakers and studio monitors. The 180€ Spirit One S is their cheapest HiFi headphone (the most expensive, consider by some as one of the, if not the best in the world, is the new Utopia at 4K€) and the 260€ Professional is a studio one. Sound wise it as nothing to do with the average "consumer"or "gaming" grade product as for the same price you get more audio quality rather than look or accessories ;)

[@blackspirit1129]

That's why for my gaming I use a Sennheiser HD 4.40 and a separate mic

[@AUCUNREVE]

hindsight is it actually good for gaming ? Like fps games?

[@blackspirit1129]

Surprisingly yes. You won't notice the delay if there's any

[@AUCUNREVE]

hindsight Cool probably buying it tomorrow

[@НиколаЂурђевић]

hindsight Can you explain me how you use them for gaming? You connect them wired and connect mod mic or other separate mic right? How good is sound. Do you feel some kind of bass during gaming. Please help me cant decide between those with modmic or corsair hs 60 (that are cheaper tho).

[@blackspirit1129]

You'll need a bluetooth dongle to use it wirelessly since it doesn't have a driver. I use a stand on mic so it stays in the table. Like its reviews, the sound is very neutral so not too much bass that it ruins the mids and highs but its there and you can hear it. Reason I didn't bought wireless gaming headset is due to the mic quality. And since there's no gaming headset that offers no mic, I resorted to this. Besides, I like listening to music as well.

[@jishcs]

What are some good cheap NON-gaming headphones under 100 dollars?

[@HardwareCanucks]

+MadAzNinja if you can find Sennheiser HD558 :) those would be my recommendation.

[@jishcs]

HardwareCanucks Thank you for a quick reply! :)

[@jishcs]

HardwareCanucks On ebay in Australia, they are 250 AUD. :l

[@jacobpeachtree2488]

Try finding audio technica ath-m50s.

[@jishcs]

Jacob Peachtree Lol, they are the nearly the same price.

[@paulcookies]

Dmitriy, could you recommend a good wired, over-the-ear, noise-reducing with mic headset?

[@tacoman1103]

First video I’ve watched of yours and I gotta say this video was great and very informative

[@HardwareCanucks]

Welcome :) make sure you Subscribe 😎👍

[@marksman303]

Wish I had watched this before flushing my money down the hole that is Turtle Beach.

[@asdfghjkydfghjhgnhgngg3778]

Marksman303 no it isnt a waste he prob likes beats

[@alanaustin5371]

@@asdfghjkydfghjhgnhgngg3778 💀dude he literally uses sennheiser HD800 he know what he's talking about, anyone who has used anything that reference knows beats is ass

[@wadimek116]

@@alanaustin5371 he showed that beats are crap

[@HaewonJeong-s7e]

headset : I can dish out 7.1 surrounding!!! now it is chicken time!!! game developer : we only coded stereo.... headset : shhhhh.... go to sleep

[@DivergentDroid]

You call it surround sound, back in the 70's we called it Kunstkopf binaural sound created by the ZBS Foundation. It was the first technology of it's kind that allowed you to record audio in 3D so you would perceive the sound as coming from in front, behind left or right of you. No special drivers needed and worked great with regular cheap headphones. You can still buy their audio tapes today to check it out.

[@qweenzgrimyest]

Some where Linus is laughing at the sponsor of this video lol

[@xlChronos]

Damn, all these mics sound terrible Im happy with my Snowball mic

[@JorgeTamezPhoto]

Seriously. I was just thinking the same thing. Love my snowball

[@Shangori]

+Eddy Also on the snowball train..

[@DrekavacScream]

+Eddy Snowball is the way

[@familydude-lq7ec]

gaming headsets in general are just UGH. So terrible.

[@AlexRaEU]

+Eddy talks about bad headset mics and calls out the snowball which you have to be in kissing range for to be heard.. headsets are more than enough if you just use them for teamspeak or ingame voice chat. its 1 headset with 1 cable and i dont have to waste space on my table or rearange how i sit or how i put my keyboard and mouse (in the case of the snowball). now if youre a streamer and you need really good quality audio (assuming youre somewhat "famous" and not just starting out) then yes. id get a standing mic for like 70-100 bucks, which i dont have to kiss. other than that. just like he said inthis video: a headset like sennheiser gaming one is more that acceptable.

[@ciri151]

No need for a 12 min video. Gaming headphones are a gimmick. That's it.

[@twixieshores]

Slash Le Pew Eh, sometimes it's good to get into exactly *why* they're crap though. As someone who, as little as 2 years ago, wouldn't imagine spending more than $50 on headphones or $80 on a headset, videos like this are valuable. Now I'm rocking a pair of HD 650s for my computer and Momentums when in public.

[@Akuto420]

Couldn't agree more. It's just a gimmick.

[@t0nje]

There is no such thing as "gaming headphones/headsets". There are headsets and there are headphones. One has a mic, the other do not. Companies just market them as gaming to sell them to gamers. But sense its very handy to pick up okay voice and okay sound in one package i don't mind. Otherwise you'd be stuck with either buying mic and headphones on their own or buy these headsets support companies are using that cost like 10 bucks

[@SpiceCh]

Companies give a shit about audio or mic quality beyond a certain threshold as long as it gets the job done. Everything past that is just a waste of money to them. There's a reason the vast majority of people who care about their sound experience don't game using marketing department headsets - the sound quality is literal garbage compared to good "gaming" headsets. And this is where "gaming" stops being a meaningless marketing word. A Sennheiser G4ME ONE headset has much better audio quality than any regular company wants to pay for. It's a headset aimed at people who care about their sound experience beyond "what gets the job done" while also wanting a microphone of fairly good quality - better than "what gets the job done". In some ways I suppose you could call it "enthusiast", but then you're clashing with headphones optimized for music listening, which "gaming" headsets generally are not.

[@eklipse2976]

I have a Steelseries Arctic Pro Wireless and I bought it over a sennheiser PXC 550, did I make a huge mistake??

[@soulslayeroverpowered2726]

Can i use gaming headphones for music???

[@The_Eldest_Millenial]

Very scientific approach and thorough discussion; well done, sir :D

[@DARKarknar]

Tek Syndicate...............that's the first thing i thought when i saw the ending.

[@taiefmiah]

yh especially since they had a video on that

[@noir51]

Becuase it was their idea.

[@DARKarknar]

PartyLikeIt's1941 I know but i did't say it because i wasn't totally sure of it.

[@DARKarknar]

***** never saw that before hahaha

[@Dannycky96]

I use my audiotechina m50x for everything

[@TheKillerDisturbed]

+Danny F I'm sorry buddy. You need headphones with more soundstage. M50x's aren't terrible but....overhyped, tbh.

[@zaleskar]

+TheKillerDisturbed i also have them, can you name some better headphones?

[@picadie8971]

+jaKz9 akg k702

[@picadie8971]

+jaKz9 or senheiser hd598

[@TheKillerDisturbed]

jaKz9 HD598's, HD558's, DT990's, DT770's, etc....All headphones that sound clearer, have more defined bass, and more soundstage. You want more soundstage so you can differentiate footsteps better, and tighter bass so that footsteps sound more natural + the benefits of tighter bass in music. I've found the M50's/M50x's, aside from the flimsy build and terrible comfort (they are on-ear's for me, and they get hot really fast + shitty headband), the sound is okay overall...but for $150 (M50x) and ~$120 (M50's)? You can get DT990's, HD598's, or HD558's for this price, all which I would rather own than M50x's. I like MKBHD but jesus, Idk what the circlejerk on M50's is all about. They feel and sound to me like $70 headphones for bassheads (I like bass, but it's bloated in the M50's), not $120 studio monitoring headphones.

[@davidriadmamoun8109]

Hi . I have a beyerdynamic mmx300 2nd gen. I was thinking 🤔 for a upgrade i play on xbox serie x. What do you recommend?

[@jasonscalzo9597]

I use the HyperX Cloud Alpha headset for $100. I'll admit, I don't know high end audio, but based on reviews and my experience, they're extremely good for the price. The build is especially amazing blowing out I think every other gaming headset from $5 to $1,000.