Religion | I Don’t Know About That with Jim Jefferies #58

In this episode, the team discusses religion with renowned writer, commentator, professor, Emmy-nominated producer, and scholar of religions, Reza Aslan.
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[@tokiburoak7457]

We're coming to your shows to expose you Jim!

[@eemoogee160]

Who are you people? Look like a cult.

[@shahaneperera349]

@@eemoogee160 lol was thinking the same thing, getting a david Koresh vibe from these people

[@scottarmstrong666]

Bloody oath, I’ll be there in Melbourne, he has no idea what’s coming.😂🤣😂

[@eemoogee160]

@@scottarmstrong666 wow. You Aussies sure have a lot of free time on your hands.

[@jasonbosel5630]

@@eemoogee160 the entire state of Victoria has basically been under COVID imposed house arrest for the past six months. Yeah I’d say they have plenty of time

[@aaronachnid]

Clearly the tour should now be called "Ungrateful Son of a Tecton"

[@notpoliticallycorrect4774]

Poo jokes are the maturity of a 5 year old.

[@emdiar6588]

Did tectons also make dinner services? I think I've heard of a tectonic plate.

[@Matthew-ve7uv]

Fantastic

[@andymack75]

Quality stuff.

[@AJ-ut8cz]

Tom Segura's tour name is perfect, the I'm coming everywhere tour.

[@pikasnipe1]

Are you coming up in May?

[@aaronpollitt8630]

@@pikasnipe1 oooooooh yeah, you bet I'll be coming up in may jeans

[@pikasnipe1]

@@aaronpollitt8630 dont be stingy now!

[@michaelkohlberg5072]

Ohh that’s gonna be good

[@austinfretz2749]

First time with me is going to be quick, cause it's been a long time

[@Qualia.]

Loved this episode! So informative. 😉

[@thewhisper417]

When you advisor on religion is Reza Aslan, you know you messed up

[@luap2006]

true

[@thathabsfan1431]

Forrest is legit underated, so fucking funny, thanks for being a part of my favorite podcast. You're all freaking hilarious.

[@odt4492]

forrest grump ftw.

[@axlrosegnr]

I didn't know Forrests' real name was Braiden.

[@bellefleur6300]

The leg comment was underrated 👌🏾

[@thathabsfan1431]

@@axlrosegnr 🤣 fuck It would be funny if they read this.

[@unicyclist97]

"Apart of" means the opposite of "a part of".

[@dawleymatthew]

Please do a part 2!

[@Wmei64]

I’m a Tolkienist, I swear by Eru The One Illuvatar😂

[@tiagofigueiredo1992]

Yes... Just yes :)

[@breakthroughpropertymanagement]

Who was, ironically, a Christian.

[@jasonphilc]

@@breakthroughpropertymanagement *reformer

[@hnybee113]

He was a Christian. So if I did want Christianity to be in my world again. ERU and the Vallar and Maia would be cool.

[@jackallenproductions]

I'm more of a Bombadilist myself.

[@jamesoverholt878]

Not sure I buy the argument that atheism is a religion. That's like saying an understanding that Chris Angel isn't really doing magic stuff is a religion

[@firstnamelastname180]

My religion is that unicorns aren't real.

[@jess9630]

My religion is Donald isn't real😂

[@RGEtienne]

I like that "I still don't know about that" segment!

[@douglaswmcgavin8509]

Tax the rich and religion the same as the rest of us and we may actually create a beautiful world. Great interview it could have gone another couple hours. I will need to check him out . Thanks eh

[@jamesoverholt878]

FWIW, the estate tax does kinda make up for all the tax dodging the ultra rich do throughout their lives...also why Republicans are hell bent on getting rid of the estate tax

[@stephenharperisgay]

There is the argument that taxing religion erodes separation of church and state.

[@douglaswmcgavin8509]

@@stephenharperisgay god bless America .... Sounds like this so called seperation is thinly veiled bs.

[@amenenazarkhani4394]

It is one of the best episodes for sure. So fitting to listen on our f... meaningless election day in Iran when I don't wanna vote 🙃

[@supafun33]

I thoroughly enjoyed this podcast! My inner-teenage atheist wants to show the facts to all the religious people I know but I know that religion does bring a lot of comfort to people. It's just a shame the whole thing is run by war-mongering, censorship inducing, pedophiles.

[@shaneheff1661]

Jim the snake in the grass jefferies

[@avangard357]

Judging a book by its books behind him

[@FuckingFuckShitBitch]

Aussies can't read

[@Lepocoloco]

If Atheism is a religion then not playing soccer is a sport.

[@ropeadopaderp]

he's talking about the types of atheists who go to conventions and shit. and/or type stupid comments on youtube about how smart and enlightened they are.

[@Schrodingerscomment]

BTW- Avi= 470'000 subs., 65'000 views and 9200👍, 120👎, on his latest upload (yesterday), but I'm sure you've seen that already, ae Jim!

[@shmartube1795]

Forest gets ultimate style points for wearing his religious hat to work today.

[@kona338]

Did they ever make the nov. 17th tee shirts? trying to find one but....

[@TheChuckiefree]

With regards to Christmas and Easter, it is not the Christians who copied the best festivities from the 'pagans', it was Constantine who simply merged the 2 to appease both the 'Pagans' and the emerging powerful religion: Christianism.

[@samppawest]

This was mind expanding!

[@Bass.sick.b1tch]

Best one yet!

[@gbl8830]

The guest randomly dropping f-bombs made it a lighter episode

[@frankcooke1692]

where did you people come from?

[@lolipedofin]

36:20 I WAS THERE! I was one of the audience... I was amused that a lot of the audience are foreigners, probably Australian. I was one of the local, and was absolutely stoked that Jim visited. Shame he didn't pull too much routine about religion, but probably the best for his safety... XD

[@chrisso35]

Australians don’t like him.

[@lolipedofin]

@@chrisso35 Well, a lot of the audience that i saw were white and kept saying, "m8", so I just assume.

[@chrisso35]

@@lolipedofin mate is actually English. A lot of Brits use it.

[@lolipedofin]

@@chrisso35 This is Indonesia. There are far more Aussies here than Brits by virtue of geography. I also can tell the accents apart.

[@hhh9802]

Jim Jefferies is one of the best comedians in the world.

[@frankcooke1692]

poo on a stick

[@alucard4344]

No.

[@PrimeMatt]

He used to be many years ago

[@andremarin5012]

U mean Jeffrey nugget

[@nhokonhokopuala]

He is a bit of fresh air indeed 😂

[@BoldRam]

Best one yet!! I learnt so fucking much I forgot to pack another bong.

[@RadioSnivins]

A bong forgotten is a bong found.

[@JuiceBoxScott]

Haha, I went to the website and the Moist tour picture is awesome!!!

[@Bowl01986]

1:13:13 wrong, wrong, wrong. Atheism is absolutely not a belief system! You guys should cover the topic Atheism and get Matt Dillahunty on your show!

[@unicyclist97]

That would be cool. Matt Dillahunty is fun.

[@brettcohen2832]

Unfortunately your wrong , atheism became a belief system when it was co-opted to atheism + by an extreme mob of leftists the have an agenda behind a hedonistic/ nihilist push so modern neo atheism certainly does have à belief system behind it .

[@Bowl01986]

​@@brettcohen2832 Don't strawman. I'm talking about plain Atheism, which is just a disbelief in the existence of god, and that is absolutely not a belief system. Evidently, there are also rightwing Atheists.

[@TooShots]

The stats on what percentage of people are athiest will always be skewed in the same way the stats on how many people are homosexual are skewed. Some people don't think they are but they are

[@danieleklof502]

I was wondering why you didn't ask him, if he said "no one really knows" then why is he practicing a religion?

[@acosmicsimian3994]

If Reza Aslan is an expert in religion, I'm Kareem Abdul-Jabbar.

[@delataylor]

No kidding. He is so full of shit. Sounds like he learned the "f" word though.

[@alexistrudel3462]

I guess you two are religious ...

[@MetalOcelot90]

"He's got a name that sounds funny to me, no way he knows about my blue-haired blond-eyed american Jesus"

[@acosmicsimian3994]

I'm not religious but I became aware of him when he debated Sam Harris years ago. He's been debunked countless times and actual professors have called him out when he claimed to have a Ph.D. in religious studies, and didn't. Sorry but I find his "brand" of apologetics dishonest.

[@acosmicsimian3994]

@@MetalOcelot90 Way to automatically think Im some sort of racist, implying I dont like him because of his name, instead of disliking him based on his ideas. Smh. Grow up. Besides, if anyone thinks Jesus was the first white, Middle Eastern Jew, they're as deluded as you. lol

[@MetalNeverDieswithMarkA]

This was a good one

[@JustOneAsbesto]

What a coincidence. The Mexican guy I hired out front the Home Depot last week was also named Jesus.

[@rudeinterplanetjanet]

Tour should be called Cuntabulous!

[@kellanaldous7092]

I misunderstood the question lol. I thought he was asking what bird lives the longest, not what was the first bird xD

[@buckthenarrator819]

one of best episode

[@jamesoverholt878]

Call it the critically underrated nighttime tour

[@6egotronix]

The intro is perfect! 👍

[@jamesoverholt878]

Bible paper is thin so you can roll a big fat joint and make the nonsense in the bible make sense

[@toddrouch7526]

What a hoot!! You're too frickin HILARIOUS!!!😂😆😂😆😂 What about Taoism, any comments??

[@thomasthompson5613]

They were clicking so well in this episode.

[@SeddyWhite1]

"Poo on a sock stick" Is a jim Norton bit from o&a

[@martinbell2899]

One of my favorite comedians Jim and shooter Will even tho he gives us kiwis shit

[@lynxfx]

Please make an official Poo-on-a-Stick shirt.

[@daredeviledoa]

i need this in my life

[@v8holdentiger]

Devo they went with moist. It’ll be the Poo On a Stick Tour to me

[@ksimshau]

Love it Jim, it was one of the most interesting ones so far. Looking forward to the Aussie Tour, I am in Melbourne so won't see you until 2022, but by then, to make every woman in Australia cringe, call the tour Moist Panties ;-)

[@valgeirg]

The best episode??!!

[@DwayneShaw1]

I don't go on any tours - but I play a little guitar, haphazardly, and have recorded a few covers just so I have them in case I ever loose a hand, or some fingers - I call my album 'Pollutio Sonitus' - - it ain't copyrighted ....

[@pragma2017]

‘Poo on a stick’ sounds fine, yet so does “Moist”. Stay safe and healthy 👍🏼👍🏼🇦🇺🇦🇺

[@Mrbeast0099]

1:18:44 very underrated joke 😂😂

[@rikidawson7510]

I wish i had his talent..........

[@dpdicki1212]

Choose which faith best suits you. Doesn't give you the right to show how your religion is superior while disproving others. Find your own path without stepping on others to prove how your right and everyone else is wrong.

[@rochellesassbug931]

Maybe religion is the desire to commune with the devine. I think Oliver Wendell Holmes said something to the effect that at the core of every religion is humility. The question of cults...here in Utah we have actual cults. (When I worked at Toys R Us, I was accused of getting waaaaay to excited to see the polygamists when they came in the store.) It seems like cults have a religious element to them, but they're smaller and also have a big element of control.

[@MeHungy136]

Guys you've got to start letting the guests answer the questions. So many interesting questions I didn't get the answer to because you went off on tangents. I mean yeah its a comedy podcast but I still want to learn!

[@Wild_Danimal]

So fun

[@ROLtheWolf]

Um, Reza, that dude you hired behind the Home Depot...he pronounces his name Hay-Seuss.

[@clint20040]

hallelujah

[@DwayneShaw1]

01:00 - "What's the plural of 'nephew' ?" - Nephmany ? - Nephmore ? - Nephi ?

[@amigaworkbench720]

Even though I'm not religious person, there's are a lot of interesting religious books and text. I do like to old testament, mandukya upanishad texts and Sufi/Kashmir Shaivism stuff is really really interesting. A lot of interesting wisdom that describes inner consciousness. Christianity becomes much clearer once you understand what Sufism or Kashmir Shaivism is about. Also CG Jung stuff about religion is worth of reading. Basically, religion is about society modeling, understanding inner consciousness and making money out of idiots who don't get what is this all about.

[@TheStanleyVillan]

Is not believing in unicorns or bigfoot a religion? If no then neither is not believing in a god.

[@samppawest]

This is by far one of the best episodes of any podcast I’ve ever seen. Ok, tied with the Joe Rogan episode about the wokeness with academic papers.

[@marcbeebee6969]

I really love to take kelly on a date. But the quarantine restrictions to fly from Frankfurt to LA are rediculous

[@BobbyBinky]

Is that the only barrier? Does she have a say in it?

[@marcbeebee6969]

@@BobbyBinky 😃 excuse me Madam, I meant to say - ask her. Thx for the observation

[@PrimeMatt]

Even as an atheist I found this really interesting. This guy was good 👌🏼

[@matchdaymalayalam]

Guess you didn't listen 1:10:00 to 1:20:00, he's so ridiculously judgemental about Atheists.

[@budoer4]

Call the tour i'll C U Next Time

[@zeewhat]

I think I already watched this episode because of the Reece's pieces misses reference haha...but hey religion...who knows about that! Hey Forrest and Kelly and Jack how are things going there? top comments night talker...I think Amy Madigan is going on a new comedy tour...

[@frankcooke1692]

The irony of Reza Aslan accusing others of "Disneyfying" religion. In his pantomime world we can all get along and hold hands and nobody's responsible for the cancer of ideology or the harm it brings onto the world. When he is exactly the sort of person who would describe female circumcision in terms of cultural relativism. He can shift the goal-posts all he wants, he's still too much of a wiener to kick the ball over any of them

[@pabloquijadasalazar7507]

Female circumcision, or circumcision in general, is culturally relative. Some people are outraged by female circumcision, yet find male circumcision not just normal but necessary. I find both and either abhorrent.

[@frankcooke1692]

@@pabloquijadasalazar7507 Yeah, neither is acceptable, but female circumcision has an extra dimension to it.

[@andymack75]

@@pabloquijadasalazar7507 Come on Pablo, the two things are so far apart its not funny. One is way worse than the other.

[@austingaskins7506]

Okay I heard the one about the snakes. I was raised in a Pentecostal church my whole life and let me tell you the church I went to didn’t handle snakes lol that’s not every Pentecostal church

[@kingmarx810]

Give 'em what they want tour

[@erlendhedegart7510]

Fun fact: Constantine would later kill his own son and wife

[@albertcandelaria3118]

This was a fast 1:37:31!!!!!!!! 😎😎😎

[@DwayneShaw1]

01:30:00 - (Christmas, Easter, When was Jesus born?) - As Aslan says, Christmas was the Saturnalia - which the Church couldn't get the people to stop celebrating - so they co-opted it with some re-branding. The date relates to Sun worship. From the summer solstice the Sun drops a little lower in the sky until Dec 21st - at this point it seems to stall (die) to the naked eye, before beginning to ascend (rise again) after three days, on the 25th . There are also similarities between Dionysus wine rituals and the Eucharist - the text of Luke having multiple similarities with earlier writings on the god of wine. Going by the story, Jesus would have most likely been born in the Spring - when the Shepherds were staying out with their herds to tend them during calving and shearing. But the year is problematic. (I may juxtapose the Gospels) Matthew says Jesus was born during the reign of (the historical) Herod - who died in 4BC (so any time up to then) While Luke says he was born during the census of Quirinius (a historical Roman Senator and governor of Syria) which could not have happened before 6AD - at least a decade that cannot be rectified. And, of course, it is asinine to suggest a census actually required everyone to drop what they were doing and return to their 'home town' - imagine what they would do to commerce and society today - or any time in history? It is also worth noting the two Gospels give different genealogies for Jesus that disagree on several points - they can't even agree on who his grandpa was. Also, if I'm not mistaken, the town of Nazareth didn't exist until long after Jesus died - in his time it was a region - and a religious sect (Samson was a Nazarene) ... And it seems absurd to me that Rome (Pax Romana) would allow a client king to slaughter thousands of children on a whim. - - Easter is a Saxon fertility festival for the Goddess Oestra. One year Spring (Oestra) came late and she found a bird who's wings were broken from being frozen to the ground. Oestra felt sorry for the bird because it could no longer fly, so she turned it into a fast running rabbit named Lepus that she took for a pet (some say lover) Because of her guilt for depriving him (Lepus was a male) of being a bird and able to fly, she decreed that once a year he could lay eggs all the colors of the rainbow - And today we have Easter and the Bunny still together.

[@DwayneShaw1]

44:00 - "Father, why have you forsaken me .. " - Jesus

[@johnjerby]

Should have named it the ,"You C*nt Call It That Tour."

[@rolfhasse9474]

Sounds like you are stealing Isaac Butterfields catch phase and his marketing material that he has had out for some time.

[@robberlin2230]

Yep, the Buttsman would wipe the floor with Jimmy boy, plus he's better looking

[@DwayneShaw1]

01:02:00 - He also preaches that you should despise and abandon your family and worship him to be worthy of salvation - and that no one should worry about the future - or plan for old age - just follow him and god will provide -and that you can have vicarious redemption - you don't have to be responsible for your actions and misdeeds - he can magically absolve you - this is not a moral doctrine.

[@michaell3739]

5* Podcast: Having been fortunate enough to see Jim live in London in 2009 I have enjoyed his comedy for a while. Seeing Jim evolve so well with the changing times has been a pleasure to behold. This podcast not only has a fantastic concept, but the combination of Forrest, Kelly and Jack works really well and their comedic synergy is endlessly entertaining. Their obvious friendship really adds to the chemistry. Legit and TJJS were axed just as they were starting to get into their stride. Would love to see some of the other members of the team on screen in future projects, as just thinking about Forest interact with Justin Barrett still makes me laugh, Kelly is extremely funny, and Jack... well he is definitely improving. Keep it up guys and keep banging out episodes please and Immodium has totally saved my ass literally having just moved to Bali from Australia, so the podcast provides great advice to its listeners also.

[@dellingson4833]

paid answer.

[@michaell3739]

@@dellingson4833 Everyone is a cynic...perhaps I'm just a fan? Actually, if you want to see a really well-done interview where Jim discusses WHY he has had to evolve as a comic check out the full-length Larry King Live interview where he discusses how, while the misogyny in routines like Bare was super funny, not everyone was taking it that way. Not to mention does the team seem like they would expend the time and effort to pay people for comments.... though if anyone from the podcast does actually read this they could add a Bali, Indonesia stop to the tour, the 30 other Aussies and I left doing business here would happily buy tickets Jim! And D ellingson why the hateful comment? Don't we have enough bad vibes going on in the world right now, hows about finding something you like and leave a nice comment on that... try to brighten someones day for just no reason if everyone just left nice comments on the things they liked just to try and make some other people feel better rather than spreading negativity and hate, wouldn't the world be just a little bit better? Tell you what, let me know your favourite comic, commentator or whatever I'll go whatcha bunch of then content and provide a True and well thought out positive comment on them just for you. And then maybe you could pay it forward. How does that sound?

[@DwayneShaw1]

... sorry about the flood of comments - the subject interests me - I just kinda joined in the conversation as I watched (apologies if anything I mentioned got covered later) - Btw .. where can I get one of them Diploma University Certificates?? - One of my greatest regrets is not having more than a 7th grade education ....

[@hrfdude4234]

wooooooow an Iranian on Jim Jefferies! never thought I see the day! you can do a piece on Iran itself, that would be fun!

[@lonelyone]

Oh no. This is a loaded subject.

[@esterzach]

Which makes it a perfect topic...

[@eemoogee160]

@Abe Garfield The more worms that come out, the less controversial they'll be~

[@mattjamison484]

I need more of that dog.

[@WEAPONX4S]

Good morning Morocco 🇲🇦!!! Religion... hmmm 🤔. I’m in Morocco 🇲🇦. Quasi-super religious country. Thank goodness for VPN’s. Good night Australia.

[@odt4492]

"yahweh or the highway."

[@MikesOrganicVideos]

So Jesus was a Tecton? Did odd jobs that may have involved some carpentry, his profession was more like the day laborers that hang out at Home Depot? Sounds like he pronounced his name “HeyZeus”. 😁

[@andreahopeorg]

Great open conversation. A bit irreverent at times, but I knew what I signed up for. I'm so surprised he didn't mention the Baha'i Faith in response to the question about the next religion. Rainn Wilson is Baha'i and so am I. We believe similarly to his explanation that there is only one religion that each prophet reforms - in their mission, they are not bringing a new religion.

[@robertcurtis3815]

It's playing now. Shit on a stick brilliant! X

[@swan0019]

Didn't anyone think to ask the three wise men when Jesus was born? They supposedly knew this kid was going to be special; surely they made a note of his birthday. Kind of makes the whole story even fishier than the the way they told it.

[@unicyclist97]

What three wise men? The story doesn't even say three.

[@swan0019]

@@unicyclist97 You're correct, the bible doesn't specify a number, but that didn't stop "three wise men" from becoming a common christian trope and it doesn't undermine my point either: it only takes one to make a note of the date.

[@darrens7929]

Pixie & Dixie & Mr Jinx

[@garettjames6349]

I guess Reza Aslan isn't instantly recognizable? I thought he was... Best episode by far though. Can you get Yuval Noah Harrari on?!

[@troyw807]

He's recognisabl for being a cannibal that went insane from eating human brain, oh and being on this cowards pathetic podcast.

[@marktullett3161]

Best episode🤣🤣🤣 you actually watch this slime bag. We are on here to take the piss out of the hypocrite

[@fmx88torana]

Jim is a scoundrel

[@vidyottamarya6797]

reza aslan

[@athanatic]

I think Occam's Razor is pointing more and more to Christianity being Flavian Propaganda, and well done! And yes, we are star stuff.

[@dusanvuckovic17]

why does Orthodox Christianity never get a mention?

[@zolj333777]

That crossed my mind as well

[@angiegoldsmith9305]

He missed it completely- Christianity has 3 main branches- Orthodox, Catholic & Protestant. He stated that there were 2 main branches, and he is supposed to be the "expert" on religion.... not even close

[@laalki80]

@@angiegoldsmith9305 Reza is an expert in bullshitting.

[@robinlundqvist8048]

Dude mooooore! Great episode!!

[@michaelwarren4334]

Vanka

[@gotpatience]

Best one ever. Love love love this one.

[@sansoucie1969]

So if you have a big street facing window, for christmas get out your string lights and spell out NOE. People will say, look.. no L

[@unicyclist97]

Reza is mostly right. He does make some leaps of faith to assume that Jesus had a famous brother called James, though.

[@marioinarizona4364]

You should totally get LLOYD EVANS and talk about Jehovah's Witnesses. He used to be one, and has some crazy stories!

[@rickuslastname6305]

This is easily one of my favorite episodes. Reza is fucking awesome

[@daver29]

Kind of like Seinfeld, "a show about nothing" except that this is really boring and unfunny.

[@Matthew-ve7uv]

Literally about religion. You upset he made a little joke about something you care about, snowflake?