Returned | Black Talon Episode 6 | Breakdown

[@ehteshamkhan4750]

2nd pls pin

[@RolandEdrickSantos-jz7yp]

Looks like we got a pin beggar 'ere lads

[@josephkush1032]

Humanity's urge to rage against the darkness is inspiring

[@de_sherwin]

waiting for gotrek to make a cameo and just appear for like 30s killing everything on screen and then just disappearing again

[@jamalsodipe772]

Fun fact gotrek thinks the storm cast eternal is not worthy to clean Felix's boots.

[@baronvonchaos8745]

Imagine a Felix cameo in the stormcasts. How badass that would be. Would be funny if the Black talons are sent to bring Gotrek in but he kills them all and they remember noting

[@CBRN-115]

The great unclean one is just impossible to face in melee. You need ranged firepower

[@sauronplugawy3866]

Unless you are Settra, in which case you just kill everything without even sweating.

[@steelgoodwin]

​@sauronplugawy3866 that's cheating, Settra doesn't even have sweat glands afterall.

[@ronanchristiana.belleza9270]

@@steelgoodwin how about Aenarion? dude is a beast

[@timeskip16]

"GW simply can't represent Slaanesh in wider media because the themes are too graphic for video games / TV!" Also GW: 4:30 Shitposting aside, thanks again for the breakdown and for your hard work. I'm a huge fan of the Warhammer IP, both fantasy and 40K, but AoS is still new to me. Your videos are an entertaining and intelligent way to easily digest all of the lore overload that comes with experiencing a new Warhammer IP.

[@Counterpoints]

I live to serve.

[@Usammityduzntafraidofanythin]

Dude, it's okay to kill people - AKA annihilate their existences and all of their chance at perception and free will most absolutely - but rape? Rape is off the table, okay? Don't you know that after ~ 1 decade, people can mentally recover from rape and get a second chance at life? That's not okay! We're about harm reduction over here! *hands on hips*

[@moodyowlproductions4287]

​@@Counterpointsonly in death does duty end

[@RomanPerezivancic]

..yes and u have starship Troopers and the same Time a clean version of évent horizon...graphic violence from death scene is différent to sexual torture demonic orgy..

[@Emann-yc7cv]

Nurgle is cooler though.

[@mrbuck5059]

Nurgle is standing behind the woodpile watching you. Smiling at you and ringing his bell.

[@sebastiank5934]

Imagine being the guy who gets impaled two feet in front of his whole army. Him after his anvil trip going really guys?

[@Counterpoints]

Bunch of blue falcons if you ask me

[@moodyowlproductions4287]

​@@Counterpointsstorm cast Sargent"look we are just following orders...your the one leading us....keep your eyes open....sir"

[@elias1579]

Lol the Nurgle wizard cast Muasma of pestilence. Always wanted to know what that looked like 😊

[@DeathSithe92]

Man with how much they show Nurgle, you'd think there was no other faction chaos wise. They so hyper fixate on that faction when it comes to chaos you'd never know as a newcomer that there are Tzeentch, Khorne, Slaanesh with how little media they get.

[@limbo8497]

It's because Nurgle is relatively safe compared to the other Chaos Gods. Easier to sell.

[@Mthammere2010]

​@@limbo8497what do you mean by safe?

[@TheDeadlyBlueWolf]

@@limbo8497 Like who? Khorne is literally just murder and kill, how is that hard to sell??

[@DeathSithe92]

@@limbo8497 Khorne is just mindless violent rage monsters, thats a pretty simple monster/enemy to show, Tzeentch is all about mind games, treachery, deceit and being a master strategist/manipulator, Slaanesh you can show the other alluring and lulling ways it can trick you into joining it, Slaanesh isn't exclusively just sex ya know.

[@rolandbraj5904]

actually few decades ago when dawn of war and other warhammer based games came out then khorne was the main villain god and back in those days it bothers me because there are other cool gods ie nurgle and tzeentch. But i admit nurgle is pretty busted as we saw in the warhammer shows.

[@moodyowlproductions4287]

Remember..when you think it can not get anymore grim dark and worse...it will...sigh...we gonna need a bigger can of air freshener

[@Counterpoints]

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[@spartana1116]

As the old man (no Relation to yarrick praise be) always said "it can always get worse"

[@moodyowlproductions4287]

@@spartana1116 Yarrick...there two r's

[@spartana1116]

@@moodyowlproductions4287 thanks

[@moodyowlproductions4287]

​@@spartana1116 your welcome..also use a capital at the start when selling a name..ok

[@or6397]

Got to be honest, I am not a fan of retconning the book on her origins. Especially because you could easily swap her out for another Stormcast and the whole her being a champion of Allarielle who was stolen has a better angle. Plus there’s nothing wrong with her having a more traditional origin of being orphan child taken in by Sylvaneth and wanting revenge on Nurgle. I get the argument they’re trying to make but why would Sigmar make an unrepentant Chaos Lord a Stormcast? It just seems too problematic and passing up other genuine heroes comes across as silly.

[@Counterpoints]

I’m with you but as a stand alone product it’s solid and they’re still trying to sell the setting to the fandom.

[@jimmyhassett3179]

I get they've bashed torglug/torvus (a champion of nurgle who became a stormcast) as a retcon for blacktalon, but im glad they have as it will make this a more accessable avenue for Age of sigmar. Just annoys me its not on amazon

[@atreyos9449]

maybe she is a proof of sigmar, that a lord of chaos can redeem himself, that if they are chosen they will follow that path even if they didn't have the power to decide, she would be the culmination of sigmar's experimentation, hopefully this character will have an important role ufff, it would be epic something like that.

[@scarocci7333]

@@jimmyhassett3179 torglug/tornus is still active in the dawnbringer crusades (the last AOS campaign book) so not all is lost

[@Chapmitch]

Favorite part is when they start talking about their ability to remember 14:27 certain people, Neeb counters it by saying you defiled her memory. Can that be true when a person is rotten, yes it will remember.

[@arklaw8306]

The most grimdark thing in this video is the shaven face.

[@arklaw8306]

TBF it makes you look like Russel Crowe.

[@moodyowlproductions4287]

​@@arklaw8306makeing moives, makeing songs and fighting round the world!!!!!

[@efaristi9737]

4:40 Why does they send simples soldiers to face a greater demon?! It's like aligning lambs for the butcher! 16:05 But Lori isn't a stormcast, she doesn't have protection against the plagues of Nurgles, how does she walk into this unscathed?

[@wei270]

she is not unscathed look at her arm she is infected.

[@efaristi9737]

@@wei270 that was from before with her bubblle, i'm talking about that swarm of insects and disease. Aren't thoses things always full of viruses?

[@Chrysamer77]

Magic

[@Jesuschrist-qd6dl]

Ever played wathammer total war ? It sucks but the only reason to send useless soldiers is to hold off the threat for a greater opportunity or opponents matching or greater than them

[@efaristi9737]

@@Jesuschrist-qd6dl i played all three of them

[@DeadKarlisAlive]

Dude, as always your content is on point and good to go. You said you like philosophy so gonna go off on a tangent here… The Warhammer and Warhammer 40k episodes remind me of the smoke pit convos that I’ve been a part of. Basically when you look at the backstory and lore of each universe, paying attention to Sigmar’s twin-tail comet, his net effect on civilization, mysterious exits, collapse of society, followed with deification by his followers, even though the canon clearly states WH & WH40k are separate, it is logical to extrapolate that he was one of the Primarchs. Operating off of the premise of that possibility leads us to this very spicy potential- In 40k we have a view of the universe from the top down, the grand scheme of things, the entire universe. In WH we have a view of the of the universe from the bottom-up perspective of what happens on an individual planet after the Emperor picked his kid up. The two universes can be seen as a duality of each other, having a fractal relationship, ying vs Yang, micro vs macro , small vs big which interestingly enough, very much fits with the major influence Michael Moorcock, and his Chaos/Order, did have on the game designers and the philosophy of WH40k & WH universes.

[@someidiotnamedtricks6397]

Honestly, I remember that actually once being a pretty big theory but eventually it disappeared as more stuff came out and the fact a lot of people heavily disliked AoS for a while; and your thought actually makes a lot of sense if you wanna look at it in a certain way, and it's not even that impossible either as if you wanna take it a step further, Space marine geneseed is stated to basically be a continuation of a long line of astartes since it is primarily collected from those who fall in battle... and is implanted into a new neophyte, and it also puts some elements of the original astartes/the primarch as well into the neophyte which could be a pretty interesting version of the reforging process.

[@scarocci7333]

Sigmar can't be one of the lost primarch for a very simple reason : he was born, normally, from a father and a mother in a barbarian tribe from the old world. He wasn't a 3 meter tall demigod who fell from the sky. He is also way too nice, competent and mentally stable to be a primarch

[@houseadams4841]

Man… Some of the common soldiers/infantry could use an armor upgrade… poor bastards..

[@Counterpoints]

The armor doesn’t seem to do much

[@roberthowe3377]

Thanks Conor for another great episode and as ever greetings from Kilkenny, R.O.I 🇮🇪

[@Counterpoints]

07 thank you king!

[@pixelgun4789]

I wonder when Sigmar gets bored and decides to join on battlefield.

[@Gods-bad-boy]

I love this show now.

[@Counterpoints]

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[@DewarSon]

I would argue Neve's sundered soul and Thea's were merged by Sigmar to forge a hero, not only worthy but mighty enough to counter and excede her former self as Chaos' champion. Thereby robbing Nurgle of a sure victory.

[@Giuseppegranata7067]

How can they say that AoS is noble bright, when this shit happens on the daily?

[@timmidietaubetaube2643]

I want to see more dark elfs and dwarfs figthing. Also what does 07 means?

[@Counterpoints]

It’s a salute. The 0 is the head and the 7 is the arm. 07

[@timmidietaubetaube2643]

@@Counterpoints oh 07 then to you!

[@vhaelen326]

yes, forge works (mechanically) the same as tradeable, you drag them onto your deck, but forge cards come right back into your hand so you can forge a card on one turn and then use it on another turn, so a decent mana sink if youre floating 2 mana without anything you really want to play

[@bradrankin844]

Another great episode sir!!!🎉

[@Counterpoints]

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[@lettuceman9439]

Question, Why are the Free Guilds so undisciplined and unregimented? This might be just FB logic but Imperial State Troops leverage their own disciplined and cohesion to outperform far talented and stronger foes and had for Centuries fought with this knowledge in mind, Also Artillery where are they? they brought a combined force and not a single cannon.

[@giacomoromano8842]

Also the stormcast ballistas on the floating island that, technically, are manned, but shhhhhhhh, Nurgle cool, gonna give nurgle the win, being baambozled only because 4 guys went ahead and fooled his plans, otherwise, it would not work.

[@Counterpoints]

They’re the Imperial Guard equivalent of this setting

[@lettuceman9439]

@@Counterpoints what a regression, From stabbing a bloodthirster to death and flipping off great unclean ones with mass fire to being second fiddle to sigmarine....at this point i wish bretonnia actually survive into AOS

[@mogwaiman6048]

You're overestimating State Troops. They got their asses kicked a lot in WHFB. Bretonnia had the worst infanfry in WHFB.

[@lettuceman9439]

@@mogwaiman6048 State Troops at best are decent it just irks me that they don't even appear any less disciplined than a bretonnian Levy and the lack of formations and supporting fire just kills me inside. This is probably a vent but have you seen the new City of Sigmar minis they regressed from renaissance Steampunk to generic fantasy looking like bretonnia survived the end times than sigmar.

[@Survivalofme]

I find it striking the animation gives weight to the armour and sound design compliments it very well.

[@messaroundhandleit]

The bell sounds are on point.

[@spartana1116]

1:52 dose that sound like a waaagh from spacemarine to anyone

[@Basil_Ghothickovitch]

*Warhammer Age of Sigmar - Realms of Ruin* goes brrrrr! You know?

[@Marcojaralaconich]

I dont get the complains about the animation. Its way better than the firts episodes of hammer and bolter.

[@Drerhu]

Great to see Pestigors!

[@brayanfisk8769]

Because that means we going to get new pestigors models

[@elias1579]

I like how in AoS the daemons aren’t some ethereal form that vanish in death back to the Warp. They’re real and remain after death

[@Counterpoints]

The realms themselves are magic so it’s hybrid reality, like the world is infused with the “warp”

[@Prince__Teclis]

​@Counterpoints Heck all the Realms are basically that specific god's own Realm of Chaos.

[@jonharrison9222]

@@Prince__Teclis Wrong.

[@noelhutchins7366]

Might I recommend dividing the screen and appearing on the right-fifth, or changing your-frame to tall instead of wide ratio.

[@Counterpoints]

You may not. Go watch the original

[@1911GreaterThanALL]

~10:40 druids are OP nerf please.

[@Counterpoints]

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[@user-ip6wq7vr7m]

I never knew these WarHammer videos even existed at all, I'm not a big fan of 40k, simply because I know very little about it but I'm a Warhammer online fan and love that timeline of warhammer ever since, so this is awesome to watch and have you explain what's going on...thank you.

[@Counterpoints]

07 thanks for watching and commenting!

[@Goosemanpointnine]

When I see this I think "Yeah, it'd take that entire Warcry warband/Underworlds set to take down a Nurgle unit." Love the content, mate.

[@fidelis5554]

Which one is larger space marine or stormcast eternals based on size comparison?

[@Counterpoints]

Space Marines because they’re actually engineered to be larger but it really does look like being infused with Sigmars power makes you bigger faster and stronger

[@ronanchristiana.belleza9270]

@@Counterpoints How strong and Fast are the Stormcast Lorewise? as well as how strong of their Elite?

[@MrSubsonicc]

RIP Beard

[@couragedog3]

7:20 so actualy there are angelic units.

[@nikalopez8448]

No one goes for the head when they get a sneak attack and it literally kills me everytime

[@talscorner3696]

Ah, yes, the lack of patience personified: Bastian "Yeah, nah" Carthalos.

[@Counterpoints]

He just wants to smack demons with his hammer.

[@talscorner3696]

@@Counterpoints "I wield a mighty hammer of war! You wield a mighty face of war! Let us test which is mightier!" CLUNK! "Once again, I stand disappointed."

[@spellwhisperrr]

I almost thought you gonna ask us 'Are we entertained'

[@Emperors_Deathangel]

Plots and twists so the story can go long as long as you can stretch out. In fact, the battle hardened soldiers with super powers dying seemed ridiculous and especially when they also finally took out the enemy. Why not just also break the roots on the way like finally the bald dude broke the root so the trapped one can cut down enemy's head, if he's one with psyker powers, why he can even break the root and why not the other people too. Or like star war without aim assist, one can arrow down the chest but not the head? It seems ridiculous for a battle hardened ranger. Besides, it seems too much milking on nurgle. But the great unclean one on melee ?

[@alexpacheco2031]

5:40 😂 come on lol

[@botep5529]

Just curious Conner, are you a WH Totalwar fan?

[@Counterpoints]

Not yet but I’ve been getting into fantasy

[@christophercrossland7475]

The way I see it is sigmar saw Nieves potential as a thunder warrior( I can’t remember the name of sigmars elite at this time so forgive me) and let her into his ranks to redeem her and make her a true hero

[@Counterpoints]

Very true. Stormcast.

[@michaelhayes1076]

Keep up the great work brother

[@Counterpoints]

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[@Majin2buu]

What’s the intro from? Where the SM punches not one, but 2 orcs to death?

[@Counterpoints]

Astartes 2 trailer

[@TheMrYadrian]

4:23 if Great Unclean One would be so good in TW Warhammer 3 then I think that Nurgle would be really good in eyes of people.

[@chalkywhite9807]

Thank the Emperor, found this with 30 minutes of work left ......

[@Counterpoints]

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[@J_Duba]

@Counterpoints40k Is your intro from some tv series?

[@Counterpoints]

Astartes 2 trailer

[@J_Duba]

@@Counterpoints awesome, thanks

[@Captain40K]

y he say episode 6 but the title is episode 5? I think u got confused man

[@Counterpoints]

Fixed

[@Captain40K]

@@Counterpoints glad i could tell u that, me big fan

[@Counterpoints]

@@Captain40K 07 Boss

[@bloodhunter9243]

RIP BEARD😢

[@Turnil321]

Why are the Nurgle episodes the best?

[@Counterpoints]

Because they’re disgusting and charming at the same time. They’re also so repulsive you want to murder the heck out of them.

[@michaelterrencefernandezli6688]

Now I feel bad for the units I've had to sacrifice in Total War: Warhammer

[@munkyschu6862]

Your opening you have a blood angel punching ork’s what episode did you pull that from?

[@Counterpoints]

Astartes 2 trailer

[@munkyschu6862]

@@Counterpoints thanks

[@bryansalesdelacruz9508]

It was still incredible that I would have liked Nurgle to win but I still live the chaos👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍🙌🔥👋👋🔥💪💪🔥🔥😈🔥

[@Counterpoints]

For Chaos part of the fun is the great game

[@bryansalesdelacruz9508]

@@Counterpoints aya ok I understand the chapter is amazing 🤩👍👍👍👍🔥🔥

[@NexUtInfinitus]

GW let chaos win. It’s called the Old World. It doesn’t work if you let good or evil win. It ends the game.

[@bryansalesdelacruz9508]

@@NexUtInfinitus okey 👍👍💪

[@patrickpersianni5314]

How do I watch all these episodes? Where I go to watch them

[@Counterpoints]

Warhammer TV

[@samuelspry6955]

Ain't that an exalted great unclean one, too?

[@Counterpoints]

Closest model I could find is Rotigus

[@samuelspry6955]

@Counterpoints makes sense then. In Total War Warhammer 3, the difference between Great Unclean Ones and regulars, are the shawls. So I've just held onto the shawl being the definer.

[@hippi0284]

this may be a weird question but is that a custom intro 0:00 to 0:02 or is it from some other content and if it is where is it from?

[@Counterpoints]

Astartes 2 trailer

[@virtuian1]

not really a fan of AOS, but entertaining and able to follow with your breakdown

[@secondarytrollaccount]

Those sigmarines should have brought some clorox wipes. Thanks for the drop G i just recently got put on to 40k when astartes came out and more recently discovered the fantasy lore

[@Counterpoints]

07 thank you for the comment king

[@FelineLegion]

Amazing animation. One pet peeve I always have though is when there's a battle and nobody holds formation. God tier animation but they'd definitely lose way fewer troops if they actually use tactics lol

[@CHRISTOS369]

WHERE AND WHAT IS CLIP AT BEGINNING??

[@akantor0811]

Its scary that they want money for this absurd quality work it looks like its a Saturday morning kids tv show

[@Mwiiaaou]

I find the graphics very disapointing... It's not like they are aiming at young children, and it's not like they have low money either so... It's a choice, and I do not like it. Sad, it could have been so much better.

[@SCUM808]

This is a great series from the lore perspective, but I just can't get over the photoshop animation. Still gonna watch the breakdowns tho

[@Counterpoints]

I like Hammer and Bolters aesthetic more but it took them awhile to animate properly.

[@churchillogbonna9010]

Hmmm the stormcast looks so weak here

[@Counterpoints]

The armor doesn’t protect much that’s for sure

[@ronanchristiana.belleza9270]

@@Counterpoints How good is their armor Lorewises?

[@Prince__Teclis]

​@ronanchristiana.belleza9270 If I recall it's literally forged from the core of the old Warhammer Fantasy world, so better than mundane metal like steel for certain.

[@ronanchristiana.belleza9270]

@@Prince__Teclis and how would you compare it to the likes of Gromril, Elven steel and Chaos armor?

[@MarkStorey-dc4tm]

Comments for the Comment Gods!

[@Counterpoints]

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[@forestjohnson7474]

I didn't relize the stormcast were that big.

[@Filip_Agrippa]

What's the clip at the beginning from?

[@Counterpoints]

Astartes 2 trailer

[@LandofAnimation]

Hi guys! I storyboarded this show. Really love it! Some examples of making on my ch Land of Animation.

[@jacksonturner7838]

This is cannon war hammer or no

[@CaptainMasolino]

anything about iron within ?

[@Counterpoints]

What about it

[@CaptainMasolino]

Anything new coming

[@Counterpoints]

@@CaptainMasolino that was a one time episode

[@CaptainMasolino]

Damm

[@chaoseverchosen]

Comment for the Comment Gods!

[@Counterpoints]

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[@jadeclerc]

What no beard?!?! I can’t follow this channel anymore! Just kidding, awesome work yet again, comment for the comment gods!

[@scorpio1666]

I'm sorry for your loss 😢

[@scorpio1666]

I hope it'll grow back soon

[@Counterpoints]

Lol

[@davidoffice9922]

The imperator projects

[@redhairjoe1]

This is the shit I want to see more of in AoS

[@Counterpoints]

Precisely! 07

[@Criixus1]

Where can I watch this show

[@Counterpoints]

WarhammerTV

[@larrytherustyboii7442]

What was the intro?

[@muhammeddabash6923]

Die Säuberung sollte dort besser Gründlich und Gnadenlos sein damit sie wieder REIN und EDEL sein können.

[@teosandev6116]

The good guys seem to think the combat is turn based...

[@dwenchan831]

Leader of Army got impaled by John Cena flying beetle which nobody bothered to notice and take down..🙄

[@Counterpoints]

What a bunch of blue falcons

[@ronanchristiana.belleza9270]

@@Counterpoints Especially it was Stormcast that got killed and there is no excuse for that unless it was a Mortal which can be excuse of not seeing it

[@Alrip287]

Comment for the comment gods

[@Counterpoints]

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[@leandrogoethals6599]

where to watch this series?

[@Counterpoints]

It’s linked in the description and I tell you in the first 20 seconds

[@leandrogoethals6599]

@@Counterpoints firefox didn't load the video again, but yeah im kinda blind for not looking enough in ur decirption

[@Counterpoints]

@@leandrogoethals6599 sorry if I seem fussy I just get this question a lot despite putting it everywhere

[@leandrogoethals6599]

@@Counterpoints yeah np u cool

[@Eastern-Ivan]

How do the "good guys" always get completely wrecked in WH40K?

[@chamchan7501]

No Kidding new to the lore myself want to know more about Korn! Still like nurgel! But come on!

[@chrisprescott2273]

The crossbow that fires electricity is pretty goofy. It really looks like it should be shooting the big pointy bolt its loaded with.

[@szemirothecallous637]

Well, shaved 20 years younger :)

[@patrickhickey4047]

2:06. Stop. You can't play a trumpet through a metal mask. It requires a very specific type of contact between your lips and the mouthpiece. I'm throwing a flag on this play.

[@dawidkaczmarek8639]

I need to build flamethrower

[@KalmoK]

Wowzers! 🎉

[@cordellmohawk8408]

1v5 I see how Sigmar fights lol

[@hurrsia]

wtf, did you just like steal that intro footage for your logo?

[@Counterpoints]

Is that how you think intellectual property works?

[@grumpygrizzly7423]

Went to warhammer TV signed up and got immediately blocked they won't let me subscribe

[@Maximinus101]

nice shave mate, you look alot younger

[@ThaAkumaRed]

Amazing AGAIN! Semper Fidelis man… been very depressed today my ish is getting worse but this took me away, thanks for this.

[@Counterpoints]

07 wish you and yours well

[@nolme2567]

Это какой сериал?

[@Counterpoints]

Black Talon on Warhammer TV

[@nolme2567]

@@Counterpoints благодарю 👍

[@Boowaluu]

Loving the Nurgle representation, but goddamn that animation is abysmal.

[@bigollameo]

No. No it's not terrible. That's just residual anti-GW sentiment talking.

[@Counterpoints]

Yeah this is fine, especially compared to the early Hammer and Bolter stuff. Everything is getting better.

[@andrew_is_taken3404]

Warhammer TV! is not working

[@oldeskul]

Comments for the Comment God and likes for his throne!

[@Counterpoints]

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