The People Who Killed Star Wars - The Skywalker Legacy Problem

[@RobotHead]

Well someone put out the challenge that if you watched The Skywalker Legacy you couldn’t possibly be “vile” about the movies. I took that challenge. Hope everyone is staying safe. Enjoy the video and consider sharing it with all your friends and family stuck at home. Warn them they may need alcohol. Cheers!

[@warrenrohr]

Robot Head I love your videos brother! Krapleen Kennedy is a heartless woke bitch who killed and extinguished the soul of Star Wars.The irreparable damage she did is so vast that people who loved it dearly don’t care anymore because all the characters they loved were desecrated and disrespected.

[@warrenrohr]

Every time I hear the hag speak she just shows how clueless and idiotic she really is and knows nothing about Star Wars and what it’s all about.

[@TheAdarkerglow]

You should do a video about how great Robocop is.

[@justinreeves2696]

Oh don’t worry I already pored two shots after watching the movie

[@xavierbarnett1573]

Robot head ur so funny thx mate

[@KairatIbrayev]

Kathleen is exactly like Palpatine, hiding in the shadows for many years, getting higher and higher in ranks and finally when the time came she revealed herself as a true villain.

[@aceofspadesguy4913]

Except Sheev had actual agency in events and literally caused an entire war just as part of his master plan. Kennedy just road around in coat tails until she got lucky.

[@kennyholmes5196]

And, like Palpatine, getting destroyed by their own creation.

[@KairatIbrayev]

@@aceofspadesguy4913 if you watch Critical Drinker's video on her you would see it differently, young padawan

[@pie7697]

Except one of them is loved, and the other is so hated by fans

[@TheCoffeeNut711]

I just realized how KK may have fucked up Daisy's career. Let's be honest, ScarJo is a good actress but she will get a lot of roles because the audience knows her as Black Widow. With Daisy, its gonna be a reminder of the bad star wars films

[@TheRealGuywithoutaMustache]

Kathleen has destroyed George Lucas' legacy.

[@theconductoresplin8092]

Destroyed? It gave starwars a fate worse than death Dividing the fan base with politics and poor management If they want to repair the fandom we need hope (and a good film) Start again And this time Do things right Remove Karan Kennedy with someone who has a plan an idea a vision One who does not sacrifice story and writing for some petty political alignment I dont got any ideas on who But we need that guy The south park guys have integrity... Thats the first idea i got

[@sharong8794]

The more I see of her the more psychotic she seems.

[@Nickel_The_Wise]

I see something greater in this destructive undertaking.. I see the further beginnings of a better frame of mind, no matter how few it is. Star Wars is so many things at once, to so many people and for so many reasons, and that's just the easy mode version of it. Despite the prequels being super stupid, they weren't boring; the first trilogy we found captivating because it was many stories becoming a new one in a new way. And in every strange, wonderful, and deeply confusing side-universe book or fan film or other such tale out there, it offered even more to consider.. doesn't make them perfect, but they came from a better place, and now the biggest entertainment company in the world has struck out after 3 misses. These are more than cinematic pants-shitting moments.. these may be the beginning of a rebellion.

[@palpatinethesenatehog7086]

I literally made an annoucement on youtube about how much I hate this whamen for destroying my favourite franchise ever (the annoucement was in style of that Dr. Eggman's annoucement from the Sonic Adventure 2 fandub but unfortunetly I can't show/write it down in here because youtube will block it lol). I hope she'll burn in hell for this or better yet, I hope the DOOMSLAYER finds her in there and will kill her in the most brutal way possible!

[@theconductoresplin8092]

@@palpatinethesenatehog7086 I agree with ya 100%

[@FellRagnarok]

I feel so bad for Mark Hamill. You could tell by his face in this that he’s just done with the direction Star Wars has gone.

[@kevmasengale6903]

Hell, you can tell with everything you he's said about it. He hasn't exactly tried to hide how much he dislikes Disney Wars.

[@Gamer2k4]

Even the new cast feels that way. Oscar Isaac (Poe), especially, has zero enthusiasm for anything Star Wars these days.

[@spellman007]

I don't, he's a multi-millionaire who is loved the world over.

[@JoshuaKevinPerry]

@@spellman007 Must be a commie. Rich have no emotions.

[@spellman007]

@@JoshuaKevinPerryhope he sees this bro!

[@SiddharthShenoy]

*"Identity Thief is not a joke Rey! Millions of families suffer from it every year."*

[@michaellorde5853]

She buried your lightsaber in sand

[@SiddharthShenoy]

@@michaellorde5853 still pissed about that.

[@michaellorde5853]

Revenge of the Sith 2.0

[@AJackass_s]

@@SiddharthShenoy lol

[@terminatoriustesla9900]

@Very Polite Duck PL never tougth about that

[@joshuathompson8667]

Imagine an animation series (clone wars) with a budget of 8 million being better than 3 movies with a 275 million dollar budget

[@SirBlackReeds]

And it started off a movie that was really just 3 different episode cut into a single feature.

[@Noah-zz8uw]

The Clone Wars wasn't just merely better. Comparing Clone Wars to the Sequel Trilogy is like comparing Shakespeare to a 6th grade poetry slam. In other words, you can clearly tell which one was basically made overnight, and which one had several days of thought and detail put into each story, making a masterpiece over the course of years.

[@jjwgaming6188]

Clone wars is better than the prequel trilogy aswell

[@ButterOnToast07684]

@@jjwgaming6188 yeeeee but I'm a 13 year old, original trilogy fan

[@jjwgaming6188]

@@ButterOnToast07684 cool. Original trilogy is so much better than prequels and sequels

[@derickdu9357]

This documentary just makes me dislike the movie even more.

[@ldmt1995]

These people are so fucking impressed with themselves.

[@JONNYCABANI]

So true

[@jayive34]

@MineMAK95 They're pretty easy to spot. Sequels fans didn't give a shit about Star Wars in the 00's and early 10's.

[@annachase6036]

Did they forget that 3PO got his memory wiped after episode 3? R2 is the ONLY ONE who remembers EVERYTHING from episode 1 till 9

[@djdrastic1]

I think they didn't forget.I'm pretty sure this useless lot have never watched the OT or Prequels.

[@silencedmaxim5889]

@@djdrastic1 Hard to forget what you've never witnessed.

[@mlgproplayer2915]

Ikr!!!

[@Bactaman]

I remember everything from 1-9... I wish I didn't.

[@orcahhh8017]

And technically in star wars rebel S1 as well, but this is less importnt

[@eltorpedo67]

I swear JJ approaches every movie he makes like this: think of some random, dramatic, cool scenes he'd like to see (e.g.: horses on star destroyer, USS Enterprise rising up from underwater, etc.), and then tries to write movies around those scenes.

[@bingofingers]

He always cares about the visuals and doesn't care about plot or characterization. Absolutely hated what he did with star trek which previously was about exploring the interesting ideas of sci fi not a space opera.

[@ovamata]

That’s also an accurate description of Lost. Plane crash! Polar bear on the island! Now there’s a bunker!

[@brianlespoir6287]

That's exactly how I write story's, luckily I'm an amateur just having some fun.

[@seabirdflutter]

this is also how young writers write

[@MariOmor1]

I'm in this comment (partially, at least) and I really hate it

[@darthludicrous99]

Rey calling herself a Skywalker is a scary case of identity theft.

[@DaScorpionSting]

Darth Ludicrous “Don’t be afraid of who you are.” Proceeds to take the Skywalker name.

[@murtazamir8706]

Its a shameless case of identity theft

[@christiangonzalez3817]

Identity theft is not a joke Rey! Millions of family suffer every year!

[@smartalec2001]

The movies have her end up with Han's ship and inheritance, Luke's place as the last Jedi, and the love of Leia's son, as well as their name. She absorbs all three.

[@MrDUneven]

@@smartalec2001 What a powerful message to all young girls to see in the movie.

[@mehereyouthere4828]

“We had this crazy idea...” definitely means it was written by a committee.

…by Lucasfilm Story Group.

[@similaritiesendhere]

Everyone's least favorite colonoscopy is the most recent one. We can all look forward to future colonoscopies til the day we die now. Thanks, Disney.

[@viscountrainbows6452]

These people are so delusional they think the concepts of "generations" and "mythology" seem to be unique to Disney Star Wars™ and not culture as a whole, East or West. I see it as result of a culture where everyone wants to be the FIRST or MOST INFLUENTIAL and MOST BESTEST EVARR because competition good but, to a point we have this you're either number 1, or a loser kind of thing that creeps into how products are made, and how we percieve ourselves. Lucasfilm as it stands, with its Diversity™® slant is not working to actively promote any of the values that were present in Star Wars, just ape the surface characteristics and dress it in vague sentiments of "empowerment" and "family". It's insulting that they threw out or ignored what people loved, and took this extremely rushed and chaotic route to make it barely breathing over the finish line.

[@Sig_P229]

"What if we pushed Bikini Bottom, amd moved it somewhere else!" Its like Patrick Star helped with these movie ideas.

[@pnutz_2]

or they looked at someone else's work and just pinched that

[@ramabass9475]

I officially hate Disney and the Sequel Trilogy more than I did 19:07 minutes ago.

[@lapplandkun9273]

lol, and the dumbass who wrote that tweet expects us to like it after seeing the pathetic excuse of a documentary. Yeah, it really doesn't. What kind of level of stupid do you expect people to be just to follow that ideal?

[@deltave6361]

Exactly, I didn't think it was possible, but it's only worsened my opinion of the Disney sequels...

[@prettychillasmr8902]

Fine, meesa will do it myself

[@count69]

It's like you're just getting your head round the fact you're about to be executed, when they let in an audience, all bubbly and excited and eating popcorn and staring at you. Sorry, was that insensitive letting them in, you don't mind do you?

[@BenMaguireLONEWOLF9989]

Did it really take that long?

[@FeatherRanching]

I never cease to marvel at the shocking level of incompetence displayed in these movies. I think you had it right: KK really hates George. She hates him badly enough to mess up her own legacy, just to hurt his.

[@WK-47]

He apparently trusted her personally. Haven't seen direct evidence of that, but let's say it's true. Why would she hate Lucas? Only thing I can think of is that she was so jealous of his creativity/imagination, had learnt you have to brown nose higher-ups to gain clout in the industry, so then she feigned passion for his work to the point he was convinced she was for real. All just speculation, but it's interesting to think about how far a really bitter person would go if they had a lot of power and money.

[@FeatherRanching]

@@WK-47 I have no direct evidence of her hatred, but her destruction of this franchise has just been so absolute, it's hard for me to blame it on incompetence. Han becomes a deadbeat loser, Luke a miserable hermit, Leia an utter failure locked in an eternal war with a respawning enemy. What awful fates for such worthy heroes. I think I'll write a fanfic of KK where she becomes a barista, every single customer complains about her awful coffee, and once a day, no matter what she does, coffee gets thrown in her face.

[@gratefulguy4130]

@@FeatherRanching please do! 😁

[@spiderjump]

@@FeatherRanching KK had to make coffee when she first started working . She hated that

[@Kyle-sr6jm]

The ultimate root of leftism and feminism is hate.

[@infamousgames7621]

Bro, the girl who got mad cuz he said “Guys”. Omg that just sums up what kind of people must be there!!! I’d lose my shit if I was stuck with people getting mad about stuff like that

[@Eternaldarkness3166]

I'd just keep saying guys and not even acknowledge it lol.

[@craigusselman546]

Ok guys and gals GALS THATS SEXIST TOO.

[@DangFee78]

Well, look at her! Easy mistake.

[@madeusedward0049]

DangFee78 lmao. Honestly tho, I can’t stand the fact that people like that are working at lucasfilm

[@therecanbeonlyonechris5019]

Welcome to the world self righteous 60s shit nuggets made

[@ironleaf1527]

Everytime I see Mark Hamill talking about Star Wars post-LastJedi, I can see how heartbroken he is this all turned out like that.

[@magnuslord]

Such wasted opportunities and potential for good storytelling. 🙁

[@angrybunny1377]

Yup. Very sad.

[@DaScorpionSting]

Jared does stuff I agree

[@Eternaldarkness3166]

It's like the Game of Thrones actors lol.

[@nillynush4899]

it aint canon

[@FlourByCoop]

My Star Wars stories I imagined in my head whilst playing with LEGO were better than this trilogy.

[@jagtech490]

Karl Larry I’m pretty sure they were pal

[@max1muslegend772]

Mine were all over the place, probably on par with the sequels

[@Howesenberg]

JJ basically is a child but instead of LEGO he has millions of production dollars to piss away

[@DonVigaDeFierro]

I mean, that's a _very_ low bar...

[@Magitek1112]

I doubt even LEGO can make this trilogy better. Here's hoping the new LEGO Star Wars game does better.

[@nash92]

I was heart broken when I saw luke was a walrus milk drinking hermit, that betrayed his own padawan cause a vision. Luke would not betray his pupil no matter what

[@ShadowSearcher31]

Mark Hamill himself says that whenever he did Luke’s scenes in TLJ he invisioned himself as Jake Skywalker instead because of how much they ruined his character

[@ShadowSearcher31]

@Focus Reaper no wonder anakin nearly killed Clovis

[@silencedmaxim5889]

I have a new disrespect for Disney's Star Wars.

[@AndreNitroX]

After listening to the staff argue on whether they should call everybody “guys” I realized that no one on that entire set wanted to make a good Star Wars movie.

[@really296]

BalefulUsurper its only possible whenever they make new movies to hate it more

[@aBerlin1945]

Me too.

[@Elder74]

"Dis"ney

[@mlgproplayer2915]

Same.

[@travissloan5296]

I hate how JJ always thinks that fan service is king. The Lars homestead is completely irrelevant to Rey. Actually, all of tatooine is irrelevant to Rey. But JJ loves saying “SEE REMEMBER THIS FROM WHEN *insert the movie series he’s destroyed here* WAS GOOD?!?”

[@DamazViccar]

JayJay Bootleg Memberberries

[@viscountrainbows6452]

@@DamazViccar Drunk off bottom shelf Memberberry wine

[@capitalcitygoofball1987]

I've said that about all three sequel films. "In the right context that scene was cool. But it sucked in the context it was presented" if I was more invested in Rey's character, Luke wasn't shit on in TLJ, etc that would have been a really sweet ending." Just like the Death Star remains. If I had bought into the last two and a half movies it would have been pretty cool, and I might forgive the fact that the Death Star was blown to tiny pieces and there is no way in hell it would still be intact like that. Or in TLJ when Luke faced down those Gorilla Walkers. Epic scene, right up until we find out Luke isn't there, then fucking dies. So ends up being possibly the most soul crushing scene ever put to film. Oh, and in TFA when the Falcon was flying through the Star Destroyer wreckage. EPIC! Until you realize it's a chick who's never piloted a spaceship before. ( so epic they do that in every Disney SW movie except Rogue One)

[@MariaIsabellaZNN]

Well Rey is from a Tatooine look-alike planet and I just like to think that even JJ forgot at this point that it was not actually Tatooine.

[@TromaDogg]

I love that JJ heads a production company called Bad Robot and that Gary from Nerdrotic always refers to it as 'Bad Reboot', which is a lot closer to what JJ actually does to any franchises he gets his hands on.

[@GvShepardo]

Oscar Isaac: "why are we in the desert if we are shooting with green screen?" JJ: "Good question."

[@NoveloMaus]

"...for another time."

[@JohntheGreat123]

it reminds me of The Room, where they shot all the rooftop scenes out in the parking lot with green screen. They could've shot indoors and it would've been the same or actually found a roof to shoot on, but Tommy Wisseau was a mad man.

[@ahmedabdullah4034]

@@JohntheGreat123 Tommy Wisseau was a scholar.

[@blankadams3120]

What was it Mark Hamill said? "And JJ just patted me on the shoulder and said, 'okay, go away now'..."? Or was that Critical Drinker?

[@ihernandez4234]

@@blankadams3120 No Hamill said something like that actually.

[@sushimi943]

when i saw vader looking at the clone heads in the last episode of clone wars, i got chills, the silence and depth in the seen is unparalleled to anything in the disney trilogy so far.

[@TheFernandoBenny]

”Were they fought a bit..” Who are these people and are they even remotely interested in previous SW movies? What a sad joke...

[@MariaIsabellaZNN]

Also did she call him "Dark Vader" ?

[@nathanjora7627]

Maria Isabella I don’t know what’s the probability this could’ve influenced her, but there are some countries (and by extension some langages) in which « Darth » was replaced by « Dark », for convenience’s sake in translation. In French for example it’s Dark Vador, because there was more or less no way to make it sound even the tiniest bit threatening for people of the time, if the voice actors were even able to pronounce it correctly. It could also just be a slip of the tongue. And of course she could be just that ignorant about Star Wars.

[@FuddlyDud]

@Nathan Jora I’m betting it’s language influenced...but she has such cursory knowledge that she probably doesn’t care to pronounce the name correctly in English which she clearly speaks competently. XD Only the biggest fans with the most skill!

[@nathanjora7627]

Prosthetic Quilt To be fair, if it’s langage influenced, even a fan could slip up from time to time. I mean, it happened to me recently, and although I’m not a fan (just an enthusiast), yet I take extreme care in not using the wrong word.

[@MariaIsabellaZNN]

I often called him Dark Vader too because I keep getting him mixed up with Dark Helmet. It's only natural.

[@sunsetman22]

the sadness in Hamill's eyes as he said "he USED to be a symbol of hope". I feel bad for him. he was robbed of a great comeback. hell, the franchise itself was robbed of a great comeback. quite sad really.

[@razkable]

luke was a symbol of not having to be ashamed of your heritage and being true to yourself...he really was awesome...like hes such a good hero and he does not do much in the final act..he has no girl he gets with..hes just a jedi

[@ChromeWheelz1977]

@wally noname Hate to break it to you, but it was the fans that caused him to sell to Disney. Think about it, for nearly 10 years he had to hear about how much people HATED the PT. Constant hatred over a trilogy of movies that he dedicated at LEAST 15 years of his life toward. Honestly, they complained constantly! "I hate JarJar", "I hate Midichlorians, they're dumb", "The senate hearings were horribly boring", "Anakin is so whiny", "I hate all the CGI".....blah blah blah. It's the TOXIC FANS that did it! Personally, I'm amazed he didn't sell the franchise SOONER! I probably would have, had I been in his place.

[@stevejones69420]

@@ChromeWheelz1977 the same fans are now crying for Lucas to come back we often forget the people who make these films are human too not some monkey slaving away in an office to make movies that we enjoy

[@ChromeWheelz1977]

@@stevejones69420 I agree with you 100%. THOSE fans are the ones that piss me off more than any other. In my opinion - and I only say "opinion" because I'm not aware if GL has ever confirmed this idea - those fans are the ONLY reason GL sold the franchise in the first place. I know he's said that he did it because he wanted to focus on telling other stories, but you don't sell your "golden goose" because you want to do something else. You CERTAINLY wouldn't sell your golden goose, because you want to raise sheep. I think he'd had it with all the hate. Those ungrateful people, who sounded like "fair weather fans", who are now bitching about this new trilogy, are no fans at all.

[@teamEP789]

Hammill is the only one who doesn't give a fuck , and speaks out about the bullshit they've done with these films.

[@stefanmindru8848]

It is really depressing seeing Mark Hamill in this. He looks so depressed ......

[@TheOJDrinker]

Since before the last jedi came out, he's looked like he's just given up on life... it's clear he actually cared about star wars and his part in it.

[@tmotors2252]

If Mark somehow had a bigger say in how the story would go, I think all the people who don’t like the sequels would like them more. It seems people wanted Luke to be this big, classic story of the hero comes and saves the day and then Luke would go back to Tatooine and look off into the sunset, but that’s not how it always works. Just my 2 cents.

[@DaScorpionSting]

MinecraftNinjagoAndStuff I honestly thought we would see him with his own family especially training a new jedi which would include his offspring but no they wanted the main attention centered on someone who is OP.

[@jdspetersgaming]

all the legends lore with luke, leia, han........... MARA FUCKING JADE

[@The_StephenHall]

I agree 100%, but.... he didn’t HAVE to take part in this. Or In any of the sequel trilogy movies. It would have been interesting to see the direction they’d have gone in if he’d said No.

[@blastification2]

That line about C3PO losing his memory just makes me think that the people in charge of this trilogy never actually watched the prequels. Because it's a bit silly seeing them talk about 3PO losing his memory like a big thematic thing when it literally already happened.

[@XavierTuber]

I’ll never rewatch that trilogy for the rest of my life. In 10 years ill forget it even exists. Biggest tragedy in film history.

[@thatkeyboardgirlsha3442]

what trilogy?

[@XavierTuber]

Li Shan Tan Force Awakens and the two that follow after it. But i agree what trilogy lol

[@davass.g]

English Vietnamese With Mimi i don't know what the heck are you guys talking about. What trilogy? Star Wars has 6 films. Started in Phantom Menace and ended in Return of the Jedi. I don't know what that new trilogy is

[@davass.g]

@petulant prequel hater?

[@davass.g]

@petulant Tho i think the prequels were masterpiece compared to the disney horseshit

[@alejandrodecorse9437]

This whole documentary is just people thinking they’re ideas are smarter than they really are.

[@riddell26]

That's what a liberal arts degree does to you

[@CygnusTheSilly]

@Trey Stephens yes you are

[@CygnusTheSilly]

@Trey Stephens I am a genetic lifeform and disc operating system

[@CygnusTheSilly]

@Trey Stephens I was lying the truth is I AM THE SENATE

[@generalgrievous2165]

@Trey Stephens ha

[@tjhardin1687]

For people who "claim" they are Star Wars fans, they sure have no idea what Star Wars is or means....just terrible...

[@jumbojoshonmolly]

you?

[@jakedunnegan]

It's sad. I mean, you almost get the idea that they WANTED to make a good film. Rian was too lazy, certainly, and JJ.. well, I don't know WTH was wrong with him. I liked (originally) that he wanted to put the OT cast back in there. I actually thought that was a GOOD thing before TFA came out. However, after the movie, I realized how very, very wrong I was.

[@DaScorpionSting]

Jake Dunnegan Some things are better off left alone and the skywalker saga was one of them.

[@jakedunnegan]

​@@DaScorpionSting Oh, agreed 100%. Quite honestly, when TFA came out, I really didn't "get" that they were ADDING to the Saga. I just thought it was some more SW movies. I mean, for fans of the universe, there have been hundreds of SW stories that did not change the core story of SW - I mean, great ones, like KOTOR - and amazing characters like Thrawn (who Filoni added back in.. YES!) and Luke's would-have-been-awesome-had-they-kept-her wife, Mara Jade. (Oops! She's a woman. We must all hate her right? She wasn't consistently voted as the most favoritest non-canon character ever? Naa, couldn't be. We're all a bunch of mysognists.) Sorry, I digress. Anyhoo - yeah, had I known then, what I know now, I would have never spent any money on TFA, nor would I have bought any of the Lego sets for the kids, etc. That's where Disney is really feeling the pain. It's not just on ticket sales. I used to drop probably $1k a year on SW stuff. Now.. that's ALL done. Until they get rid of Kathleen Kennedy, (and even then, it's iffy) - I'm not spending a penny on SW.

[@anonymousmanatee4079]

@@jakedunnegan the star wars universe is absolutely enormous like they could've gone somewhere in a completely different timeline or place with new characters and done whatever tf they wanted with them but no they had to ruin the characters we do like and add characters we don't like. It's depressing

[@Ironwind1972]

It's depressing to know something so loved is beyond repair. All due to some non fans just trying to make a buck and cater to an agenda.

[@mysterykiddo2167]

It hurts harder than you realize

[@KingKayro87]

I'm sure one day Disney's gonna sell its corpse to us, then all we can do is get it dressed up nice and have a funeral ceremony for it.

[@ugfpandasofficialhighlight2647]

The fact that I would rather watch a 20 minute well written rant on a movie, then watch the movie itself says a lot about how bad the movie is

[@hotsauce1690]

Oh my gosh.... truer words!!! 😜

[@John-X]

Holy shit im not the only one. After episode 8 of the fan fiction sequel trilogy, I was so done with Kennedy's movies that I just didn't even give a fuck about spoilers anymore. The Mandalorian is great though, Jon Favreau should be running Lucasarts.

[@kennyronald1886]

Same I did not watch the last one

[@John-X]

@mjv Damn son. The only footage I've seen in the reviews from The Drinker and this video, also E;R. But I know the feeling, cuz see my family wanted me to go watch it with them but i had to decline cuz I didn't want to waste the ticket if I had to walk out in disgust :/

[@margarethmichelina5146]

Every time Mark Hamill got interviewed for the movies, it's always look like someone pointing the gun at him

[@adamoshea2793]

I wonder if he could have told them to change the story or he would not be willing to act in the sequels . pretty sure he had that power . Imagine what the fan base would have thought of the sequels if they had to recast or did not have luke in the sequels at all Nobody would have watched them .

[@jelshok1779]

@@adamoshea2793 i think he said he tried giving his advice to the writers but they just didnt want it so they didnt allow him to go to conventions or something

[@danhun7355]

@@adamoshea2793 Ever heard of contracts? Or breach of contract for that matter? He already was way out of line for a lot of interviews where he addressed his disappointment, which also was against his contract since most contracts actually contain a clause that the actors have to advertise the movie.

[@adamoshea2793]

@@danhun7355 he had the power to tbh if it came out they had to recasted Luke skywalker there would have been outrage .

[@RGC-gn2nm]

KK hates Mark on a personal level. My guess, Mark never called her back after a wild weekend.

[@Gapeagle]

"The Death Star was too big, so we just decided that we could say just a piece of the Death Star landed" My gosh they have a cumulative IQ of 75

[@chrisperrien7055]

Well they could have buried the wreck in a big crater it made when it hit an ocean , that filled with water. IDK, the last three are non-canon AFAIAC , but who now cares? Old SW fans don't care about the new PCBS, and all the new moraly bankrupt commies into PCBS have done forgotten about even the new films. SW is dead. All that is around now is a green baby Mogwai, that they call a Yoda.

[@sparklygames71]

@@chrisperrien7055 tbf, the mandalorian is a legitimately good show from Disney, but they made the Mando's into a cult which fucken sucks, like the idea that they can't remove their helmet ever.

[@Stad122]

@@sparklygames71 ... You do realize it's just that very secretive sect of mandalorians, right?

[@Bollibompa]

@@sparklygames71 Did you not watch the show?

[@jaffusmaximus]

@@chrisperrien7055 the name of the species is not know smartass

[@TheMemeChannel3]

When they erased C3PO’s memory I literally cried, I wonder if people forget C3PO was made by Anakin Skywalker aka Darth Vader.

[@ajaxmaxbitch]

But it didn't matter because he got his memory back and doesn't remember the events of Episode 8 and 9

[@tiberiussempronious6252]

@@ajaxmaxbitch - I'm jealous. I wish I couldn't remember episode 8 and 9 either...

[@definitely_just_floating]

Yo, had an idea, what if the location where palpatine was in IX was a resting place for sith, and reverse the story. “One day, a powerful sith comes from the shadows, unaware of where he is, he roams through the planet until he finds things that remind him of the past, after getting out of the place he finds his old Starfighter (old sith empire style) he flies to another planet…..”

[@Richterdgf]

Easy on the spoilers there! I think we’d ALL like to forget who built 3PO. It was a pointless, stupid connection that only served to shoehorn an Original Trilogy character into the Prequels.

[@BigSimpin420]

It wasn’t sad. It was fucking stupid.

[@gregr3720]

When the Emperor was "killed" in Episode VI. It was satisfying. When he was killed again in Episode IX, it was stupid.

[@theautisticnerd5115]

Greg R Yes bringing him back is definitely one thing which i really don’t like

[@Xehanort10]

Especially when what killed him in 9 did nothing but reveal his true Sith face in 3.

[@thaneofwhiterun3562]

The Just f****ng offed him and I thought...that's it? Also, apparently when you stop Shooting Lightning it's Like when you stop peeing mid-stream, and that's why he Just...didn't.

[@death-king1834]

Cause Rey didn't earn the victory of killing him. Anakin did. I'll admit I don't really care for the whole Prophecy nonsense Lucas tacked onto Vader for the Prequels, but even if you ignore that aspect, Anakin was built up and clearly earned the right of killing the Emperor. Palpatine had been manipulating and grooming Anakin's fall to Dark Side as early as Episode I (''we will watch your career with great interest''), eventually turning him completely by Episode III. Had him betray and murder his friends and everything he once stood for as a Jedi which also cost him his body and own wife whom he had sacrificed everything from the start to save. Serving for the next 20 so years of his life as essentially Palpatine's slave. Then through the love and hope of his son is able to see the light again and sacrifice his life to destroy the Emperor. This is what used to be known in storytelling as a "arc". Having Rey be the one to kill old Sheev, literally makes Anakin's entire story completely meaningless. This would be like if they made a follow up to Harry Potter and Voldemort for unexplained and stupid reasons just returns, kills Harry and it's up to some other asshat we never heard of be the one to take him down for really real. Or if Sauron just came back despite the Ring being destroyed and it's up to his daughter that we never knew he had be the one destroy him for real.

[@gregr3720]

@@death-king1834 I agree 100%

[@Gator12]

The name Skywalker and the Character Rey do not belong together

[@DaScorpionSting]

Commander Doom agree

[@CygnusTheSilly]

I agree and Palpatine is to good for her

[@joshfatal]

In the Duel of the Fates script her name was something like "Rey Solara" which makes her sound like a prescription medication but is still preferable to her taking Luke's last name.

[@jacquelyynorgana77]

joshfatal I think it was Solana.

[@aamirrazak3467]

Well said she should’ve just said her name was Rey full stop

[@soogmer9025]

How can c3po be the narrator of the entire story is he doesn’t even remember the entire prequel trilogy when they wipe his memory in Revenge Of The Sith.

[@MrZackavelli]

@Gaius Wyrden And JJ had the balls to take a cheap shot at the prequels with the first line of the new trilogy "this ought to make things right" And then in Ep. IX he needs the prequels' help when he steals the line "The dark side of the force is a pathway..." to cover up for his dumbass story and its gaping plot holes.

[@DaScorpionSting]

Matches_Malone For sure

[@DemonicRemption]

@Gaius Wyrden Wait, have I been lied to in these past 15 years about the prequels impact on the fandom? Because with all the prequel hate I saw from 2005 to well now, I never got the impression that the PT was popular... Like I was under the impression I was in a small and heavily despised minority for liking the prequels...

[@w0bbl3r]

My idea of threepio wasn't that he was the narrator. It was that he, and more importantly artoo, was the audience. They were the witnesses of it all. Like those two guys in that movie that Lucas took (a lot of) inspiration from. I forget the name, but it was some samurai movie or something, with two peasants who don't really want to get involved, but are there to witness the whole thing, just like the audience. But I believe Lucas said that artoo was the audience. I just took it that they both were, especially in the original trilogy. And that's a good thing about great movies, that you can take them how you want. And enjoy them in your own way sort of thing.

[@w0bbl3r]

@Gaius Wyrden I saw all the movies in the cinema on their first run. Except for the original run of star wars. I was only like three years old. But I saw empire, and I saw jedi, and I saw new hope on a second run. And I mostly loved the prequel movies. Apart from episode 1 being ruined by Jar Jar and that poor kid who played Anakin. I really really liked those movies. Because I (and actually most original trilogy fans I know who watched them back in the early 80's) understood what to expect from the prequels. I knew they were going to be political. Because we were wanting to see how the old republic worked, and how it fell. And of course politics had to be a big part of that. Literally the only things I didn't like about those movies was Jar Jar (who could have been good, but was just way too over-used in episode 1, and far too over the top), young Anakin (mostly for his cheesy and terrible dialogue), and that the final turn of Anakin into Vader felt very rushed. Like at one minute he's saying a very heartfelt goodbye to Obi Wan, his brother, his mentor, his only real family at that point, and at the next he lops off Mace Windu's arm without much warning. And then he just slaughters a LOT of children. Just too rushed. Other than that, the prequels are great. Some cheesy dialogue throughout, sure. But they delivered exactly what I wanted really. I wanted to see jedi at the height of their powers, lots of lightsabers, clone wars, the politics of the old republic and the fall of Anakin Skywalker and how Luke and Leia ended up separated. I got everything I wanted, and was surprised at how they came for the most part. Which was awesome

[@romanstravels6390]

Yeah, let’s collectively as Star Wars fans just not consider these Canon

[@Legoiscool-s1b]

yes

[@Rap-vj9io]

The worst part was when they filmed rey sliding down luke's old home and JJ says it be a cool tribute to the original movies.. But Rey litterally doesnt know this place and has no connection to it. Just goes to show, these hardworking ppl behind the camera, you cant save a movie if the script is terrible.

[@vsGoliath96]

Also the fact that Luke hated that farm and was trying his best to leave it in the first half hour of A New Hope. Rey was doing no favors when she buried the lightsabers there.

[@muskatDR]

@@vsGoliath96 Lets not forget that she buried them in sand. Which the first skywalker (that was only given a single line) hated

[@rwinger2481]

muskatDR Should have listened to George. Colin Trevorrow would have made a great Episode IX if he wasn’t fired. We even see Abrams/Terrio writing the script on the fly during filming. Rian Johnson did some reshoots but he did not change a huge chunk of the script midway towards filming. Makes me think that “I am Iron Man” line coming from Rey was copied from Endgame and added during July or Oct-Nov 2019 reshoots

[@vsGoliath96]

@@rwinger2481 Eeehhh I'm not so sure about Trevorrow. He may have been better than JJ, but he still made Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom, and that was almost as bad as any of the Disney Star Wars movies. Never forget laser targeted super dinosaurs.

[@rwinger2481]

vsGoliath Anyway, what the sequel trilogy didn’t do was innovative like what George Lucas did. Looking at the prequels, it follows their own story while connecting to the original trilogy. Lucas stated that Sheev was dead in Episode VI. And 1 to 6 is Anakin from an 8 year old slave to an evil ruler who dies of sacrifice.

[@hunterthekitsune9536]

There have been better MacGuffins in LEGO stories written for kids than in this mess of a movie. That's just sad.

[@AndreNitroX]

The LEGO movie has a more well written story than this entire trilogy!

[@iamadopted1382]

Clutch powers

[@gunnar6674]

We saw Lego Justice League, and it was actually enjoyable.

[@Unknown-hb3id]

Well, those Lego movies certainly have better *worldbuilding* .

[@iamadopted1382]

@@Unknown-hb3id baddum tssss

[@Ecselsiour]

The only professionals here are the set builders.

[@eliaspeter7689]

Yeah I kinda feel bad for theese guys, they work hard to create fantastic sets and effects... for this crap.

[@matthias8140]

+ John Williams

[@anonymousmanatee4079]

Tbf the actors did fantastic jobs but the writing of their character was poor beyond belief. Look at poor mark hamill in his interviews

[@lucianobattistoniromero4618]

I feel bad for everyone who worked on these movies except the writers who ruined years of hardwork with shitty scripts

[@DaScorpionSting]

Luciano Battistoni Agree

[@ChristoKiwi]

The knife shot was appalling. Was like I was watching the goonies, but even more implausible. Someone had better redo this trilogy in 10 years so we can forget about this travesty.

[@alecgunter8515]

Or... Just not redo it because that story end with 1-6 Make a new story in the star wars universe maby old republic era? Maby Darth Bane or Revan story. Material is already there and both great stories

[@SagaciousFrank]

​@@alecgunter8515 , do you mean Darth Malak? KOTOR, I recognised Revan from that game.

[@aaronlee6279]

The writer: "Force Dyaid. Handing out sabers. The first time someone did something kind for him in years."

[@manolgeorgiev9664]

Was he implying, that there were years of time between episodes 8 and 9?

[@AndreNitroX]

All of that made me throw up in my mouth

[@OrkOfOhio]

Nice prof. pick as well!

[@bipstymcbipste5641]

@@manolgeorgiev9664 Wasn't it 4 years? But yeah, not enough

[@cybercery5271]

The worst thing was that the literal chosen one's sacrifice doesn't mean much anymore

[@gunjantripathi3340]

they did Anakin dirty

[@sheilaalena3109]

Anakin killed Palpatine man, nothing else.

[@cyrus2431]

that moment was so iconic and special to me and sequels ruined it

[@Сайтамен]

And all what OT heroes did.

[@oristrix2238]

umm, well it still does, he brought balance to the force and redeemed himself. so.

[@joshuasiejak6729]

I like how JJ tries to dress like Lucas and Spielberg. And then grow his beard out 🙄.

[@TheEmperorHyperion]

Plagiarism of both film *and* fashion... is JJ some kinda hipster that can't come up with shit on his own?

[@SardonicJosh]

@@TheEmperorHyperion oh he can! Disney just won't let him.

[@SnatchBandegrip]

JJ even models his speech patterns after Spielberg. It's... really gross, actually.

[@router9717]

The handing down of sabers part really was insightful. They knew they couldn’t make anything like what the originals were, so they shamelessly swung these old things around with the grace of a toddler, inevitably hurting itself by playing with something it should’ve been incredibly careful with. Luke received his Father’s lightsaber because it was his Father’s, he has the right to inherit it as it is but what remains of Anakin before Vader, which culminated in Vader discarding that very relic of his past in his encounter with Luke. A master doesn’t hand down their own lightsaber to a Padawan, as building one’s own lightsaber is the completion of the art’s mastery, the training is complete.

[@paulk1181]

plus, even with all his talent Luke got his balls rocked when he faced Vader. rey always wins everything all the time

[@devonportfilmclubdvfc3469]

Rey uses her as a torch when it gets a bit dark. People light up their sabers every chance they get in Disney Star Wars. Maul lights up in Solo while he's on a video call for no discernable reason other than to remind the audience who he is.

[@hiimollielol1663]

"The handing over of lightsabers" it hurts to hear this, its like rule 1 of being a jedi that you build your own lightsaber not just go borrow one.

[@izzy8609]

PAIN!

[@The_Rude_French_Canadian]

They probably base that on Obi-wan giving Luke his father’s lightsaber which they clearly misunderstood as a Jedi ritual...these fucking retards don’t know the first thing about the franchise...

[@zooms5624]

I feel so bad for Mark. He watched his character get torn apart and couldn’t do anything about it

[@DaScorpionSting]

At least the EU has a better version of his character.

[@Fafnd]

He could have quit during the Last Jedi.

[@dan4lau]

@@Fafnd Exactly. In his shoes I hope I would have refused to have anything to do with it, gone public and told Disney to go ahead and sue.

[@johnnyquest9519]

He should’ve said no

[@AceDeclan]

I wouldn’t have acted in the movies.

[@Hykje]

George Lucas's "Making Of" documentaries: -a series of looks into the process of moviemaking that shows us a group of dedicated people that seem to love what they doing. Disney's "Making Of" documentaries: -a couple of videos with talking heads who praise themselves, repeats rambling sales pitches and laughs at the audience.

[@steamedhamlet]

Right. In the Phantom Menace BTS they left in all the negativity and all the friction between Lucas and producers and of course that's where we get the memorable "I may have gone too far in a few places" line from Lucas. They didn't censor like Disney does here. Trying to make everything seem perfect just tells me it's quite the opposite. But then again they're proveyers of porn for kids and a haven for pedos so...

[@Stad122]

@@steamedhamlet You got a single fact to back that up?

[@steamedhamlet]

@@Stad122 Several. You can do your own research if you're not too lazy and biased and closed minded.

[@Stad122]

@@steamedhamlet As always, the defense of the lazy. "Look it up yourself and if you don't your biased and close-minded"

[@steamedhamlet]

@@Stad122 😂 You don't wanna do the most basic work and come at me with a biased view. What is that? Seems you're intellectually lazy as well. You can't expect people to do your research for you especially when you insult them and show your closed minded view. You're not worth the time it takes to explain this to you.

[@firsttimecallerlongtimelis836]

When they had a green screen in the desert to have it look like they were in a desert when they were in a desert reminded me of the disaster artist when they rebuild the alley they were right next to because it’s “ Hollywood”

[@capitalcitygoofball1987]

I liked TROS better than TFA and TLJ, but that was because by the time TROS came out I didn't give two shits. It's like picking your favorite colonoscopy.

[@pg9193]

and of course you pick the one that goes by the fastest

[@capitalcitygoofball1987]

@@pg9193 It goes by if you completely turn off your brain, ignore canon and did I mention turn off your brain? It's a bad movie, terrible even but it has pew pew pew and lightsabers and me still not giving two shits. I might have forgiven the death star being semi intact if I was more invested up to that point. Honestly, the phrase comes up so much with TROS and TLJ that it might as well be a drinking game. TFA lost me after Finn's first joke and Death Star 3.0

[@vipersuphere]

The force awakens is the only and i mean ONLY decent film that came from this series.. don’t kid yourself kid. Neither 8 or 9 were canon at all.. more like what people could do with a huge budget and didnt care to improve upon an already legendary story.. on top of that, there wasn’t one good fight/ choreographed scene in any, just cheesy jokes and weird sub plots... can’t believe you’re actually serious about considering the others as tolerable.

[@iododendron3416]

@@capitalcitygoofball1987 I gave up on the Sequel trilogy after seeing TLJ. TFA was okay but TLJ was just an insult to movie goers and Star Wars fans especially. I read the plot summary of TROS on Wikipedia and had to laugh out loud several times about how stupid it was.

[@dozyproductionss]

@@vipersuphere TFA was as horrible. It was a failed copy and the foundation for the worst of the trilogies. Don't kid yourself kid.

[@theyoutubeacolyte969]

I’m sorry but I just can’t do the rise of skywalker challenge I want to preserve what’s left of my brain cells

[@twostep919]

It's like no one was hired unless they didn't deserve to be there.

[@orcahhh8017]

twostep919 hahahahhahaha underrated comment

[@DaScorpionSting]

Pretty much

[@nillynush4899]

gender/diversity quotas kill the meritocracy.

[@MiniatureMasterClass]

During the making of TLJ, Kathleen probably said "taking off the mask makes him feel more powerful."

[@robo003d]

she doesnt know shit

[@theredguy4043]

Darth Vader was terrifying because he didn't show his face, making him a huge threat. I think helmet in acting is a dying art

[@imaginationdan-479]

In the words of Mark Hamil, "It's not my Luke" In the words of us true fans, "It's not my Star Wars"

[@CanalMAIRENO]

Us true Star Wars fans said that long time ago, with "Phantom Menace"'s premiere

[@davidkingbom4580]

@@CanalMAIRENO ok

[@nathanward2729]

I don’t like the sequels but to say that people who like them aren’t proper fans is stupid

[@blackrigga7401]

@@CanalMAIRENO thanks to you assholes George sold star wars. Feel proud

[@CanalMAIRENO]

@@blackrigga7401 No. Lucas sold Star Wars because his movies were bullshit and nobody liked it

[@WalterLiddy]

"Why do I still care?" - This is pretty much how we all feel at this point.

[@tickleson8661]

Disney: Look at these hard working people, they're human too Fans: And we're not?

[@ketzer4]

No, for them we are racist and sexist

[@aa6731]

I am willing to bet that every disney employee has an inhibitor chip that makes them think the fans are treacherous

[@ketzer4]

@Nation of hydration oh yeah sry i forgot that we are even worse haha

[@T3noir]

Nope. To them we are just numbers

[@sigurdurdanrakelarson133]

@@ketzer4 Racist and sexist = not human?

[@haerfgvbag7050]

Honestly hearing the people behind the project made me feel kinda sad for a bit. Just all the amazing technology and all the reverence for Star Wars and talented people working on this. It can have been so much better

[@ldmt1995]

The Skywalker legacy: Where you whole lineage disappeared and the granddaughter of your enemy steals your name.

[@DaScorpionSting]

Rey Mary Sue

[@heitorpedrodegodoi5646]

Because of this i prefer legends.... 3000 milions of Skywalkers.

[@atomicbuttocks]

@@heitorpedrodegodoi5646 Luke got game in there As far as I know he died a virgin in Disney cannon

[@heitorpedrodegodoi5646]

@@atomicbuttocks A wise man death

[@jagratbharati9946]

@@atomicbuttocks all jedis except Anakin died virgin

[@kev._._._.]

I used to try to defend the sequels, saying that there given unnecessary hate, but after watching this, there is no way I can seriously defend these pieces of garbage.

[@kevmasengale6903]

I defended after TFA... But a couple more viewings changed that before whatever the middle one was came out.

[@JoshuaKevinPerry]

YOU ARE A FOOL

[@T3noir]

Sprocket List 🇬🇧🇪🇺🌍 just like the Republic: thinking we’re keeping the separatists at an arms length and about to win the war, only to get shafted by the higher ups from within

[@algovorus]

Lots of respect to you for speaking up driven by humility and seeing the bigger picture.

[@EpicGamer-fl7fn]

i still kind of think that this is just getting fucking stupid at times. I do not like sequels that much either but holy shit this video is just one of thousands more where they all say basically the same fucking thing over and over again. I cant even bring any enjoyment out of it, he's saying the exact same things 20 other "channels that you watch only one video of" are saying. Not even that, this channel was apperanty BUILT ON shitting on the sequels. It just feels more like people wanting to complain for the sake of complaining at this point than bring anything new to the discussion. Yes we know, Rey is a mary sue, yes bringing back Palpatine sucks, YES BAD DISNEY BAD Now can they please shut the fuck up? I havent came across ONE Star Wars video, even those that dont even refer in any way to the sequels and there isnt one that wouldnt have at least three comments saying "still better than the sequel trilogy" jesus fucking christ, can you be more obnoxious than this? i dont think so. and im just there looking at this comment like "just let me enjoy my fuckin Mandalorian funny moments baby yoda for crying outloud" God i needed to get it out of my system.

[@synlion]

They actually created an authentic digital model of the Death Star Throne Room and then, when it came to building the set, everyone just forgot the stairs and the entire second floor. That’s amazing.

[@Flippokid]

The High Ground didn't survive the crash. Ironic.

[@mmorpger0558]

8:56 3PO isn't the memory of the history of the previous movies. He might be the original trilogy but at the end of the prequels, Bail Organa had his memories wiped clean. R2 wasn't wiped, he's been with Anikin, Obi-Wan, and Luke for years. After the prequels, I always thought it was odd that R2 never had a conversation about Vader with Luke.

[@KingKayro87]

Maybe it's because R2 isn't exactly a chatterbox. Maybe he has the better judgement and simply didn't wanna tell Luke about it for the same reasons Obi-Wan didn't. That's why they erased 3PO's memory and not R2's. It's because 3PO _would_ say something if he still remembered it.

[@MandoPrime1138]

Kathleen “Karen” Kennedy is still mad that she was casted as a background dancer in Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom

[@jaztermareal]

Kathleen "Karen" Kennedy... K.K.K. ..... Illuminati confirmed

[@30noir]

casted?

[@snakeplissken2963]

jaztermareal >racism intensifies

[@fudd666]

Whom is this Kennedy woman you speak of, I thought the head of lucasfilm was Darth Traya, betrayer of the galaxy

[@smileydog5941]

You may have been half joking when you wrote this but I think you're right. The only way you could fuck up a franchise so bad is if youre actively trying to get revenge

[@shotgunfringe]

My new head canon is that the new trilogy is being told by an old Rey on Tatooine. Turns out she’s just some crazy old drunk that found Obi-Wan’s home and is telling “her“ life story to someone who is just passing through.

[@kylevarga402]

Episode 10 starts like: wow that was a really cool dream

[@CalM004]

@@kylevarga402 it's just that 1 line and the credits play

[@gnammyhamster9554]

For me it's just her still on jakku inventing her story because she can't accept the fact that she's been left there with no purpose

[@Unknown-hb3id]

Dexter Jettster If that were to actually be planned as a movie, a skilled team could unironically make a pretty good movie out of it. You could do a case study movie like Joker but for Rey. Reys wants and needs could reflect on how she hallucinates the Disney trilogy: her Ma-Rey Sue strength, her never-changing character, people liking her as she has always wanted, her coincidentally meeting all these “legends” and experiencing their story in her eyes (a way to explain the ripoffs and “fan service” from the OT), she gets stuff wrong because she just knows stories (like the Death Star being Starkiller Base, the screwy tactics, the broken rules in space and in the Force), etc. And then there could be some spark of hope at the end of some sort - depending on what the message of the movie would be. It could be a physical spark of hope that someone arrives that “calls her to adventure.” It could be an internal understanding or becoming content by doing your best with what you have. Honestly, I want someone to make this movie. I wanna see how it would turn out.

[@lucianobattistoniromero4618]

My headcanon is Chewie having a terrible nightmare

[@sikid4000]

I watched the documentary too and I just realized JJ and Terrio just don't understand Star Wars. "We realized the saga was about two families...the Skywalkers and Palpatines." ....what?? "Balance in the force is never this permanent thing." Says you "We knew after 30 seconds of discussing it that bringing back Palpatine was the right decision." I'm not surprised.

[@Darkness1984]

Right, after all star wars was abut Medilcorians and Jar jar binks.

[@DaScorpionSting]

Darkness1984 All about making money even if they don’t make sense at all.

[@manolgeorgiev9664]

@@Darkness1984 nah, it was about Qui Gon and Obi Wan!

[@nathanjora7627]

Manol Georgiev It was obviously about Dexter and Ki Adi Mundi, objectively the best characters, in my subjective opinion

[@sikid4000]

@@Darkness1984 Nah man it was always about ewoks.

[@svampen7782]

I remember seeing kylo walk in that winter forest then turning on his saber and i was like wow. It honestly felt like a few weeks ago but its been years. How could it go so wrong?!

[@SagaciousFrank]

Well, for starters they had no idea of the direction of the story arc of the trilogy before filming the story, they just winged it really badly.

[@sfugid]

Again this only highlights the true problem of this new trilogy: It is made by people that kinda know Star War-ish things but don't have a clue of what Star Wars really is

[@thepolishdinosaur9015]

It's like they say they know about star wars, but that knowledge is haha blaster go pew pew, lightsaber go brrrrrrr, and bad guys go boom

[@thatkeyboardgirlsha3442]

@@thepolishdinosaur9015 excellent summary of them. also, awesome name.

[@darthconquerus]

Give the whole thing to Dave Filoni. When he talks about Star Wars he has such an incredible insight and knowledge because he's literally spent an outrageous amount of time with George, listening and learning about why things happen, the symbolism, like the Duel of the Fates being so pivotal as Qui-Gon is literally fighting for Anakin and the future of the galaxy etc, thought like that was not put into these films

[@garym6315]

"Ok, so the Death Star crashed in to the planet at the end of episode 6 right?"

[@ldmt1995]

You know I think the day when geek stuff became mainstream we lost our place. Every aspect of what we like videogames, movies, comics and books was invaded by people in the bandwagon of "being nerd is quirky and unique" and the problem with that is that those people latch on to things because they're popular. They don't connect with them, they don't learn from them, they are not inspired. Because they don't actually enjoy this stuff. That's why when they hijacked everything they changed it.

[@DaScorpionSting]

“Don’t be afraid of who you are.” Proceeds to take the Skywalker name.

[@razkable]

rey and anakin caused so much death in this universe ..the fact they are heroes is gross

[@chrismarple]

@@razkable anakin is never portrayed as a hero you tard

[@peevshalpatine]

@@chrismarple he is, until it becomes the kiddie cutter

[@lordmaniel3603]

@@razkable well because Anakin IS a hero from his accomplishments, Vader is someone else

[@gunjantripathi3340]

Anakin Skywalker is THE hero .... he was the one who killed the emperor and bring balance to the galaxy, he was the CHOOSEN one and will always be.

[@ironcladnomad5639]

I love how the multi-million-dollar tentpole trilogy finale flew _all_ the way out to Jordan just for the lighting... and the little eight-episode Mandalorian show _flawlessly_ replicated the necessary lighting *ON A SET.*

[@MariaIsabellaZNN]

I actually thought Mandalorian was shot on location and TROS on just a green screen set. Money well spent, JJ

[@baronvonpimp6628]

What is special about the sun shine in Jordan

[@ChickenMcBerger]

you should probably add that the set cost millions of dollars due to the stagecraft technology

[@yarpen26]

That's just Hollywood in a nutshell. Money laundering is the only explanation for how movie budgets have ballooned out of proportion over the past few decades. The original Star Wars was made on $11M, that's some $47M today. Four times less than any modern blockbuster and that typically doesn't even cover the marketing costs. Where does all this additional money go to? The paychecks? There really ain't that many A-list actors involved in these movies. CGI also should significantly reduce costs, that's the reason why Hollywood refuses to return to practical effects that look more realistic, because animatronics are expensive. And yet the budgets are still ginormous.

[@DaMaster012]

@@yarpen26 Filming in general is also more expensive to do, given all the red tape surrending the process, especially in Commifornia. The one surefire why to bring any form of production to a grinding halt is to get government involved. I had no idea that the original Star Wars was made on such a small budget. Adjusted for the abyssal devaluation of currency (erroneously referred to as "inflation"), that's about as much money as _Joker_ was made on. And while I enjoy the film immensely, _Joker_ is hardly the special effects extravaganza that _Star Wars_ is. Also, I've known for years that socialist shit weasel Woodrow Wilson selling out the entire economy of the United States to a private bank (The Federal Reserve) to fund his fledgling warmongering fantasies and the treasonist Richard Nixon taking it off the gold standard has made the dollar a worthless currency, the value of which is nothing more than a lie agreed upon by billions of people, but it's been a while since I've been hit with a Saturday morning slap in the face like seeing that the dollar of 2020 has less than one-forth of the value it had a mere forty years ago. Shit's fucked beyond all unfucking. I give us no more than ten years, closer to about seven or eight, until the entire planet's economy implodes with all the gentle grace of a supergiant going supernova. Start stocking up on enough water, non-perishable food, and medical supplies to last you and your loved ones for at least a decade and start arming yourself with enough guns to arm a whole platoon, because comparing what's coming to this Leftist's police state trial run in response to an escaped communist Chinese bioweapon is going to be like comparing a boring weekend to the storming of Omaha Beach.

[@seppi1789]

Fans: Star Wars is great. "What about the sequels?" Also Fans: WE DONT TALK ABOUT THE SEQUELS

[@PazBinv1]

What about the prequels?

[@cowabunga23914]

@@PazBinv1what about the Acolyte?

[@winterfrog6818]

The saddest part is that they systematically killed one of the greatest universes ever created and they did it on purpose partly but also through pure idiocy.

[@maximumeffort2381]

They’re doing it to every thing we love. It’s all made out of spite.

[@beamzsalt4252]

its on purpose

[@ephriamwinslow4103]

Mark referring about Luke: you know he was a symbol of optimism *while not looking so optimistic himself*

[@galaxyknight9123]

Hes said before that he doesn't like what they did to his character. He thinks that Luke in these movies is not who he should be. But Disney told him to shut up so he stopped giving his honest opinion after that.

[@thetwelfthdoctor9892]

Luke is not in the Sequel Trilogy. There is only his twin brother, Jake Skywalker.

[@colorin81colorado]

Have you ever heard of the tragedy of Mark Hamill? No, not from the Hollywood Reporter... nor from Lucasfilm or from any main media outlet... They all believe that being loyal to the original story, loyal to the decades long fan base, being family centered and optimistic about the future is... Unnatural!

[@ssj4broly974]

Well he did say "was"

[@fattiger6957]

Mark Hamil just looks like a defeated man whenever he talks about Star Wars now. Unfortunately, we can't hear his full opinions (due to Disney's lawyers ready to destroy him) but if we could I think it would be similar to most SW fans.

[@lovelovelove5744]

I totally love Francis Ford Coppola's final quote. Right on point. Describes the sequels.

[@aceofspadesguy4913]

JJ: "Hey I want a cavalry charge on a star destroyer" Someone: "But won't it just turn and send the troops sliding off?" JJ: "........"

[@SilvrSavior]

"Well we already said they can't fly up so no..."

[@viscountrainbows6452]

Logic: Just move the ship, like, even a little bit to the side, or down to throw off their balance, send a tie fighter to sweep them off JJ: Haha space horsey go clop clop

[@dizzydial8081]

It would have been more entertaining had the ship moved in any slight manner followed by everyone tripping and falling to Hannah Barbera style cartoon noises.

[@vsGoliath96]

"Stop asking completely logical questions! Shut up and eat your popcorn!" "But JJ, I'm on the crew, not an audience member." "Shut up anyway! I'm the next Kubrick!"

[@Protoman888]

@@viscountrainbows6452 JJ go plop plop

[@阿蛋-u1v]

You know what Kathleen Kennedy just looks nothing like a film maker or writer. She acts and even dresses like a politician or a person who works in a bank ._.

[@ruleoftwo6174]

other than the upper management, most ppl working in banks have more integrity than KK

[@Kill0rbAg]

@FlyFarther It's because of people like you that their bogus agendas even have any ground. Be smarter man.

[@redphoenixthewise8993]

I’m a massive Star Wars fan and the funniest thing is that, the only merchandise I have of 7 to 9 is a cinema soft drink cup and Kylo Ren’s lightsaber. Everything else I have that is Star Wars related is from the original Star Wars films and prequels, as well as from the Star Wars the Clone wars T.V shows. How disappointing Star Wars has become. 😢

[@FuddlyDud]

@Red Phoenix The Wise And now I’m selling my Kylo Ren saber and looking to make an Ahsoka-inspired saber for fun XD It’s going to be sad when the kids who enjoy the sequels grow up and realize just how shallow these creators are...they will hopefully then find the prequels rich with passion, albeit poorly executed. :)

[@odette7789]

it seems disney is trying to forget about the last two movies. I saw a disney+ ad that had footage from every starwars film except the last two.

[@JoeBlow-mc9lx]

That's still too much to own from this shit trilogy. You should donate to goodwill...or throw in a furnace

[@trvecvltfvckboy]

Heh, I got a TLJ popcorn bucket which sat in the garage for over a year, and last month I gave it to my Dad for him to use as a trashcan when he's on the road.

[@redphoenixthewise8993]

@@FuddlyDud I hope your Ahsoka inspired light saber turns out great.

[@digilyfe]

FANS: We want a good story, good characters that represent what Star Wars is... DISNEY: Its Not just guys people!"

[@pg9193]

if you have to make a documentary justifying why you think we should appreciate your movie, you're beyond boned

[@charlzincharge775]

Great comment!

[@danielwoolfe1135]

Anyone who has to say "I am the king" is no true king...

[@defencebangladesh4068]

great one

[@anthonywoodroof2800]

Not only is R2 the lore keeper, C3PO's mind was wiped at the end of Ep3

[@MiguelMedV]

Those losers didn't even bother to watch the Prequels to keep some kind of *continuity,* _LM🅰️O_ X"D...

[@agent3689]

@Iron Giant Oh, make it stop, *please* make it stop. How much idiocy can one man contain?

[@nemo99nemo83]

Well it's not the first time 3PO's mind was wiped (see Ep. IV) so that's his everyday life more or less

[@xzcusjc1918]

It hurts what they do to the franchise. For me, this isnt star wars

[@Darkness1984]

Welcome to 1999

[@sikid4000]

Same. Only things that came from George are star wars. Episode 6 ended the saga.

It not being Star Wars isn't your opinion, it's a *_FACT_* .

[@DaScorpionSting]

Some things are better left alone and the skywalker saga should have been left alone.

[@samueljohnson9723]

Legends forever

[@diamondplate]

Kathy, JJ, Rian, Chris, Kasdan JR......all garbage. What a waste of Disneys and the shareholders money. This WASN'T how things had to end.

[@_somestuff]

Return of the Jedi: The Death Star is literally destroyed from inside nothing is left. Rise of Skywalker: Parts of Death Star survived. How???

[@Smerpyderp]

even if there were shards of the outer shell, and debris, I could possibly understand, but I’m floored that they thought they could just shoehorn in the entire top half of it. One has to question if they even watched the first two trilogies. What did they do? Glance at sparknotes on the odd weekend or something?

[@ButterOnToast07684]

@@Smerpyderp on what planet it is? Is it on endor, but I'm not talking about the forest moon

[@TankHunter678]

@@ButterOnToast07684 It flew to a different moon of Endor, since they can just spawn in new moons for a planet as they do not care about continuity.

[@ButterOnToast07684]

@@TankHunter678 thank you dude, didn't know that endor had a lot of moons

[@monstermikeheinrichs]

A good story, for another time.

[@jawhitby345]

Old lady: “what’s your name?” Rey: “Rey Skywalker” Dwight: “identity theft if not a joke, Rey”

[@DaScorpionSting]

Pretty much

[@gilliancarman5659]

millions of families suffer each year!

[@fattiger6957]

She already stole everything from every hero in Star Wars. Stealing Luke and Anakin's name was just the cherry on top of the s**t sundae that was Rey's 'character journey'

[@razkable]

fish boy

[@YeTheGOATNoCap]

Literally reads like a dogshit fanfiction.

[@coopertownsend207]

They honestly ruined the canon of Star Wars for me and everyone to come. This is not canon. Not to me.

[@-CrimsoN-]

Yep agreed. Going right back to the original Expanded Universe.

[@razkable]

this is like most of gt...why is this canon?

[@d3laiah]

said this after I saw the first of these new movies. to me, there is no movie after Episode 3. it’s a shame that we never got to see any new Star Wars content after Clone Wars...

[@riseofazrael]

I also choose to ignore reality when I don't like it.

[@cpreme4]

ong EU is like 10000x better than this

[@soriacx]

It's ridiculous when they say "the end of the saga has to feel inevitable, you have to think 'of course that's how it has to end'..." Yes, that's why so many people say that the saga ended with Episode 6! That WAS a proper ending, this so-called sequels tried to latch onto it. To say that the end of RoS was the REAL ending, the REAL conclusion we all have waited for, is just arsenine.

[@contendedracer5861]

love how they think they’re geniuses for coming up with the idea to erase 3PO’s memory even though that was already done at the end of episode 3

[@yarpen26]

And then they immediately double back on it anyway. No words.

[@cross4437]

I'm not gonna waste time explaining why. I just don't like the new trilogy. George Lucas himself doesn't like the new trilogy. When the creator doesn't like what his story and universe has become, it should be a red flag to all of us. I'm not gonna try to change the minds of people who like the new trilogy. Your entitled to your opinion. I'm glad you enjoyed the movie. But many of us didn't. A majority of fans, long-time, and new like myself, can see the obvious flaws, misconceptions, and mistakes made time and time again when handling the story and characters. It's just sad how all of this went down really. I don't hate Kathleen Kennedy. I'm sure she's a good person. But she was NOT the right choice for this project. Her subjective view of star wars has decimated much of what we love about star wars.

[@deiniou]

Yeah, I actually got a bit pissed off by the bad rep the prequels got, how do you like it now (not you specifically, I mean the people that complained about the prequels)? I always believed that if Lucas was the author, he knew better than anybody, and I think these new films prove my point. I saw the first film of the new trilogy and immediately realised that they fucked it up. I saw the second one at home and I have not even bothered watching the last. Fuckthatshiat!

[@ChromeWheelz1977]

@@deiniou Here here! I agree with you 100%! I've been saying the EXACT SAME THING, since TPM came out, and people first started complaining. Fans were all up in arms over the PT, well, are you all satisfied? SW is in the SHITTER right now. 5 films, 4 tv shows*, 1 season of a show that Disney cancelled and brought back, for a single season, 1 Lego Star Wars Christmas special. And of all those productions, I can honestly say that I only liked, 1 movie and 2 tv shows*. That says a LOT. Especially when the 1 movie and 2 tv shows that I liked, were all either CREATED BY Lucas, or DIRECTLY RELATED TO, the original 6 movies that were created by Lucas. Shame on those people that posted all the hate and vitriol directed at a man that has done so much for our entertainment. We should ALL have been celebrating him, not trashing the work that he put his heart and soul, AND 15 years of his life, into! *I'm not including the Lego Star Wars animated shows.

[@cybercery5271]

True, I thought the first one was decent Second one was so meh It felt like they killed likes character But this is my prediction in about 15 years people will start liking them cause nostalgia If you like it or not it's cannon and Vader's sacrifice doesn't mean enough

[@jaedanb]

@@deiniou The prequels were great stories that just needed some TLC. The dialogue wasn't where it should've been and some scenes felt awkward or unnecessary, but overall the characters (mostly), overarching stories and themes and obviously the action was great

[@Lonewolf-dy5yb]

"Star Wars couldn't end any other way" Old Star Wars EU: Hello There

[@gronh3630]

Ep6 ROTJ:General Kenobi

[@moxxiiscarlett7141]

Ep3 ROTS: a surprise to be sure, but a welcome one

[@gronh3630]

@@moxxiiscarlett7141 well,it ended at ep6 chronologically,from the phantom menace to return of the jedi

[@DarthJadus95]

Rogue One: *visible confusion*

[@lukeparker5689]

I want my Jedi Grand Master Luke Skywalker and I want him now.

[@thepeskyone]

14:34 Luke and Vader didn't fight for a bit. It was implied when parts cut off to endor, or space, they were still fighting during those times :/

[@zechariahalanoly699]

i personally think that burying the lightsabers on tatootine is the most disrespectful thing rey could have ever done to the skywalkers 1)luke hated it 2)anakin hated it 3)leia hated it then she had the nerve to take their family name smh also star wars isnt about family and generations and all that bullshit she was talking about, its bout vader and his redemption. this documentary provides very strong evidence that none of these ppl have actually watched the ot or prequels

[@manolgeorgiev9664]

Identity theaft.

[@vespertil10]

Zechariah Alanoly anakin REALLY FUCKIN HATED SAND

[@nathanjora7627]

Zechariah Alanoly It... It is about family. I mean, Lucas outright told that. That it’s about family, father and son relationship, etc. She is... Laughably wrong about this being unique to Star Wars mythology (although the treatment could be), but she isn’t wrong to say that family is a big part of star wars. So is bad vs evil, the dangers of populism, the dangers of fear, etc. These aren’t all central themes, but they are part of Star Wars, deliberately so, and in regard to family, this theme is why it was called the skywalker saga before Disney put their greasy hands on the franchise, because it was a saga about the skywalker family, even if Anakin was the most important character in this family, in some respect.

[@darthbane3937]

Actually the sequel trilogy was going to cover the Grand kids if Lucas wrote it. He intended to show 3 generations of Skywalkers. Disney did not do a good job though.

[@DeathBYDesign666]

@@darthbane3937 aren't they the grand kids of Anakin and Palpatine though? It depends whos grand children you're talking about. It's a real time sequel based on the number of years past the OT and the last jedi kinda screwed that up. The last franchise to pull off step by step continuity was back to the future, but every star wars up until then was years gone by. Rian doesn't get how these stories work, if he would have jumped ahead a little it might have worked better. Everyone criticizes JJ for bringing back the emperor, but that is not a new concept for star wars lore, the EU has done it before also and it was well received by fans at the time. I don't think that was the real problem for this past movie, it's fine with me to bring him back. What bothered me was all the unused plot points and severe lack of direction and cohesive vision. There must be a better cut version out there somewhere and someone needs to explore what was in them. I'll bet that the entire final order fleet was a last minute addition, they just put a big gun on a regular star destroyer and copy paste it in endlessly. I don't think that was the original plan.

[@senorpickle6239]

When I was watching the documentary, the entire time the clip of Han Solo saying, “Thats not how the force works” kept playing in my head

[@zenithstudio6819]

Jesus Christ, I can't wait for these movies to become non-cannon.

[@odiadordeisrael]

I'm excited.

[@Innersanctum_]

That's never gonna happen

[@zenithstudio6819]

@@Innersanctum_ a certain future ruler of earth and is insideer says otherwise (aka doomcock)

[@Innersanctum_]

​@@zenithstudio6819 Oh yes, believe everything you hear or read on the internet

[@zenithstudio6819]

@@Innersanctum_ I don't, I just got high hopes

[@mast3rchief536]

It's actually sad because this isn't the franchise you mess around with. It means so much to so many people.

[@mrFoolish565]

i remember watching the "i'm rey skywalker" scene in cinema, and i clearly remember the "oh f°°k off" audience response. We were 5 friends, all of us agreed to join that natural chorus!! xD

[@thatkeyboardgirlsha3442]

unfortunately i went to watch it alone and when i burst out laughing when Kylo died i got a lot of dirty looks =(

[@theprowler18]

I was in a near sold out screening and we all laughed at the stupidity of this gem of a line, "I'M THE SPY"!!!

[@joshfatal]

See, I spoiled the movie for myself by watching videos about all of the leaks and so when I did finally go and see the movie I was trying desperately to convince myself that not all of the leaks were true. By the very last scene of the movie when the old lady asks who Rey is I'm muttering to myself "Please don't," "Don't do this." REY WHO?? "Not like this. Please, not like this."

[@mrFoolish565]

@@theprowler18 pure gold: after a mass murder, after 2 full movies of dictatorship and nazi-yelling, he becomes a spy because a black-caped apprentice bullies him

[@sigmacademy]

@@mrFoolish565 Fun fact: in the novel Phasma, we learn Hux Jr and Phasma conspired with each other to murder off Hux Snr, to seize leadership and power of the First Order. So why he then would go full revolutionary to destroy the First Order, kinda remains a mystery, since he wanted ultimate power and had the ambitions to go with it? And yes, it's a woke novel, but at least it had enough self awareness to at least have enough internal consistency to make the book readable (even if it was a difficult read), unlike the cinematic outing. :/

[@Elder74]

You all have no idea how proud I am that I haven't paid to see this trilogy.

[@Flippokid]

Did you let people pay for you? Cuz that's cheating :P

[@dinka3668]

Lmao just pirate it?

[@Elder74]

N7Mith I would consider that a crime.

[@Titantro]

I truly envy you... I whish I had never watched it

[@evanpotter6645]

Lucky

[@Rihcterwilker]

"Don't be a vile person! Look, they've spent lots of money in this, so it makes it good"

[@ALmizzle415]

Being surprised how how big the Death Star was is baffling to me. It seemed very clue that it was huge in the original trilogies.

[@DarkTakanuva]

mm yes human scale what a unique basis for size they went with

[@ryaquaza3offical]

I prefer banana scale tbh

[@thatkeyboardgirlsha3442]

stop being mean. i never knew about human scales before this. i always thought only fish and some reptiles had scales.

[@DonVigaDeFierro]

@@thatkeyboardgirlsha3442 Don't you know about the lizard men that secretly control the world? *[X-FILES theme intensifies]*

[@thatkeyboardgirlsha3442]

@@DonVigaDeFierro do do do do do dooooo

[@karlofilipec84]

Suggestion: lets just forget about the sequels

[@n1njahawkssecondchannel84]

Let’s not remember 7, 8, 9

[@moustache1161]

Shit I remember the sequels now

[@toshitajoshi3851]

Sequals: exists Everyone else: It's canon......but not canon

[@netherot624]

What sequals?

[@ralphherdman5073]

Already have

[@abnzg]

TROS is the story of the total victory of Sheev Palpatine. The entire Skywalker family is wiped out root and branch, and replaced by a Palpatine.

[@SuperDababy2]

He won and lost at the same time

[@kgb2647]

@@SuperDababy2 It always bothers me how will Rey make another Jedi order. Will it be full of Rey simps?

[@Mikazuchireborn]

​@@kgb2647 As long as Kathleen Kennedy is at the wheel, yes.

[@RandomizedCTRL]

@@SuperDababy2 How did he lose? He wanted Rey to strike him down, and she did. He won.

[@SuperDababy2]

@@RandomizedCTRL she did, just not in the way he wanted

[@yewdimer1465]

I wish they'd just get rid of the sequels. Even with the great stuff they're making now, it bums me out knowing that THIS is where the story is inevitably heading...