*S.O.S* The 2022 Lexus UX is in a TOUGH situation...

[@audi1982]

My friend owns one. Previously owned a BMW 1 series, Estima people mover, Civic Type R from the 90's and he loves the UX as a comfortable cruiser.

[@RevLexus]

Thats cool cars they have owned

[@ronshaw9311]

One thing that wasn't mentioned is the fact the UX will be far more reliable than the other three. That is important to a lot of people including me. The hybrid version has more power than my wife's 2017 RAV4, and we never feel that it is under powered.

[@KirkKreifels]

In theory more reliable. I sold a uxh to a family member and the 12v battery couldn't keep a charge for over a week of sitting - they wanted to return it 🤷‍♂️

[@PawpiChoolo]

@@KirkKreifels Gah! Selling to people you know can be so messy if things happen to go wrong :(

[@ronshaw9311]

Was that a problem with the vehicle, or just the battery? I have had bum batteries on occasion.

[@willnye9788]

@@KirkKreifels They just happened to get a dud. So far mine has done just fine holding charge. I use the battery when cruising a parking lot or driving under 25mph in a neigborhood. Lexus does need to address the battery, it's mediocre at best compared to the competition. An EV battery that only gives 1 mile of range that's awful. The least Lexus could do is make the UX a plug-in or provide the tech where the electric engine kicks in when it needs to in order to work simultaneously with the gas engine. My Supervisor's Escape hybrid does that and it gets over 40mpg.

[@docholiday1967]

@@KirkKreifels did lexus warranty this and correct it? i would bet they did. i give your "review" absolutely no validity at all. comparing a lexus to the other 3 cars on the chart is not even a responsible comparision. the mb is junk and everyone knows that. volvo and bmw....LOL

[@caa881985]

Don’t know why people dislike this car. UX250h is awesome. Yes, cargo space could be bigger which they sort of fixed it in 2021 model. Lexus is never selling for performance. Lexus is selling an overall top quality ownership experience. The quietness and the reliability and the attention to details are what Lexus is going for. If you want a sporty car, go buy a bmw but just don’t complain about the time you spent in the shop.

[@shadowronin2700]

Infiniti is sporty too.

[@caa881985]

@@shadowronin2700 I agree. Q50 Red sport 400 is awesome.

[@alh06]

@@shadowronin2700 Not with their models with a CVT

[@asiffarooqui6789]

@@alh06 judging by their upcoming Infiniti QX60 they may well be ditching the CVTs finally 😊

[@alh06]

@@asiffarooqui6789 No, it just means we'll be getting rebadged Nissan products from now on :( most likely

[@Kneutral]

I feel like the UX was essentially brought to the market to cater to that small percentage of consumers that don’t need all the extra space/room already provided by its siblings, NX and RX. I don’t think that speed is that much of a necessity to the consumer, but more so the purpose of its subcompact design. The runt of the family doesn’t have to prove itself, because it’s doing just fine. Besides, you’ll see more of these on the road in 10 years compared to its competitors.

[@willnye9788]

I read an article from the designer and they mentioned that the UX was to pave way for owners to have something suitable until they graduate to a bigger and more lavish vehicle like the NX or RX. The UX was more targeted to younger consumers (late 20's to mid 30's) that are single or have a baby and needed a commuter vehicle that was comfortable but economic. Nothing wrong with an entry or beginner's vehicle in the luxury segment but they really need to make it appealing enough that would encourage the consumer to purchase it. Lexus mostly focused on price and economy versus the point of the luxury segment.

[@themagicalaries]

Last year my mother bought the UX250h F-Sport using a family members employee discount (great deal) and she absolutely loves it. It's surprisingly great. Sure it's down on power but for the folks that are looking for a vehicle like this, it's adequate. The hybrid power train definitely makes it feel like it has more power than it does. The interior feels really nice and it does feel pretty good dynamically.

[@willnye9788]

I testdrove both the base model and hybrid and it was a done deal with the hybrid. Those extra 10+hp make a difference especially when in sportmode. I went from a 1.6T 4cyl with 188hp and the UX does just as well without the turbo lag and not using premium fuel for the UX is a huge plus. The price difference is not bad either about a $4000 difference in sticker price to opt for the hybrid F-sport. What I've noticed though is the engine is not very economical once in normal or sport mode for so long and you start to see the mpg really drop with just a ~10gal. tank.

[@GPaRichie]

The Lex 250h is exactly what it claims to be: a well designed vehicle for economical, very comfortable, responsive, agile, and enjoyable city driving focused primarily on just transportation with regular supply shopping for singles, or couples, or small fams with young children. This completely describes over 90% of my actual travel needs at this juncture in my life. I wholeheartedly agree, however, that the 250h is not, nor will it ever be the vehicle that your review seems to wish it would be. Pretty much, though, what you really appear to desire, is soon to be released in a different car in the Lex lineup: the '22 NX 450h+. This new NX variant should nicely fulfil many of your wishes, among others including: dramatically increased performance (300 hp), infotainment (very large touch screen interface), and somewhat increased interior dimensions. Do you agree?

[@brentonl2631]

I've had a few Lexus models but never a UX, I have driven one I the city and suburbs as a loan car and found it a dream, comfortable quiet and fantastic on fuel so for the 2 of us it was fine. If we didn't travel to other cities in Australia I would have one. Great look at this practical little Lexus. 🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺

[@dannyalex1598]

That is so true!! Every time I see a UX, it is the 250h model. I rarely see a UX 200

[@RevLexus]

I have never seen the UX200 :(

[@willnye9788]

Out here in CA I see quite a bit of the 200 because it's cheaper and the earlier model had more cargo capacity but the common one is the hybrid. I have a 2019 hybrid and heard the newest one they fixed the cargo issue.

[@spyderlogan4992]

Lexus is in a huge bind here in Texas with this model, I believe. For the price point you can get a lot more vehicle, size, trim and power wise. Sewell Dallas has sixteen(16) 250h listed on their website, average MSRP $39k(!)...No one will pay near that price for a Sub-Compact(Wheelbase 103.9") for travel on our high speed roads. These are College Graduation Gifts, not Adult Daily Drivers. imho.

[@tommy13965]

Mazda cx30 turbo 34k is a better option or the non turbo premium for 29k is the route to go IMO.

[@wwdd83]

i agree with you. yet this car is perfect for me who's living in Los Angeles with all the parking hassle and stupid gas price. small size with hybrid function serves very well in crowded area like LA/NY imho.

[@stefanb.5154]

@@wwdd83 that’s exactly the type of situation it was created for. The name UX stands for urban crossover.

[@michaelmichael6699]

That’s crazy. Here in San Diego we can’t keep them in stock!!

[@spyderlogan4992]

@@michaelmichael6699 It would be interesting to see the 'inside sales' numbers based on locale in the U.S. Big in Cali, for sure, and other urban environs but nothing much in the middle of the country where there's wide open spaces and high speed limits...I think I've seen one(1) roving around Round Rock, Texas where I live. A LOT of RAV-4, CR-V's, Highlanders, Passports, Tucsons, Santa Fes and full size pickups, all brands. The other third are mid-size sedans, all the usual suspects.

[@Vanilla_Donut]

It is essentially the same issues the Toyota CHR has which was originally supposed to be sold under the Scion brand in Europe till Scion no longer exists. The CHR is also the most comparable to the UX in the Toyota Motor Corp lineup of vehicles in the North American market at least. If the UX was cheaper, I think it would have been a bit more compelling for the size. Definitely agree that it is just impractical. It needs to be bigger, similar to the Corolla Cross. If they were to base a next-gen UX off the Corolla Cross, they need to have more 2nd-row legroom as a 5'7" person's legs touch the back of the front row seat.

[@moeanthony9308]

Good points. But folks forget it's the styling not the soccer mom vanilla suv. That's the diff. Some don't care about utility.

[@bryanclark7608]

I drove one as a service loaner the last couple days. I didn't like the sight lines in the UX, especially looking forward. The rear view mirror (and equipment) takes up way too much space and when you're pulling into driveways in certain angles I could even see the danger of not seeing a car coming your way for a second. Overall, the sight lines to the front and rear both felt restrictive. Overall it's still an ok car....

[@wwdd83]

i purchased my 2021 ux 250h 2months ago(june 2021) and been waiting for 2022 model to exchange. i was hoping it'd get the touch interface with wireless apple car play but now i guess i'll just keep the car until 2023(lease end) and either get NX or... w/e. but so far i LOVE the car except the interface. with my driving environment/condition i'm maintaining 49-51mpg on eco mode. if lexus improves the ux on 2023 including the interface, i'd definitely get a new one.

[@islandon22]

My daughter bought the UX200 a year ago. She lives in mountainous California, yet she has no issues with acceleration or mountain driving (not rock climbing). In our family, we have 2 other Lexi. One with 190,000+k, the other, 230,000k. She opted out of the hybrid because she feels the durability of the Hybrid and those Batteries won't hold up to the longevity our family expects. She is a jet mechanic who knows her way around any engine, or motor.

[@1northsparrow246]

@@mrsj1417 The most reliable cars made by Lexus/Toyota are their Hybrids. The 250h is the obvious choice as it will greatly improve mpg while adding AWD.

[@islandon22]

@@mrsj1417 200,000 miles like it's siblings.

[@shadowronin2700]

I like the way the UX looks but it needs more horsepower.

[@imnotusingmyrealname4566]

I guess it's made for Europe.

[@hlfbrwnhlfamzng]

could u imagine if they put the v8 from the new is500 into one of these, it would set sales records

[@peppersmith]

@@hlfbrwnhlfamzng Some Competition for the Juke R - lol

[@lexurious2227]

@@imnotusingmyrealname4566 agree, intentionally made for Japan, Europe and Asia

[@willnye9788]

Europe got the EV version that cranks out 200hp, the least Lexus could do is offer a turbo option for the price.

[@stevengodfrey891]

The days of wanting/having more power are almost over for most people. The hybrid is cheaper to run, much more luxurious and way more reliable. End of!

[@1northsparrow246]

The UX could have the same mpg with more power if they used the 2.5 Hybrid system from the Venza and RAV4.

[@Xander1Sheridan]

wait what? That makes absolutely no sense. Electric cars are setting speed records.

[@willnye9788]

Hybrids can crank out more than enough power if they are paired well with an appropriate battery. The UX could do very well as a plug-in and crank out over 200+ hp

[@arlenes8085]

I bought the UX 250h AWD. I love the assistant technologies, but the GPS usability/interface is not so great. Because of the run-flat tires, it is a noisy ride, so I have difficulty enjoying the Mark Levinson stereo. I have no problem with cargo space - it suits my needs perfectly. I never ever get better than 38mpg, no matter how light on the pedal. Having said that, I live on a hill, so hauling that AWD up the mountain uses more gas. And since they had to use a smaller gas tank because of the AWD gear, the range is decreased. I am NOT a fan of the SUV/CUV trend, but I like the interior finish quality and ride of this car. Since Lexus stopped making the CT, and I wanted a small car with a bit of luxury and good(ish) gas mileage, it was the best choice.

[@arlenes8085]

@@mrsj1417 There aren't many alternatives to the UX in this segment, and the ones that are an alternative have their drawbacks. You are right - the UX is a hatchback, but a rather un-aerodynamic one, as are most SUV lifted/boxy shapes, contributing to poorer gas mileage. The SUV is a trend. The van/people mover was a trend. The stock market trends. I am not speaking of fashion. BTW, there is a LOT to like about this car - in spite of my critique. Especially the value for money. I am complaining at a high level. Just like Kirk does.

[@misaacp]

I like mine! I also was able to get it for several k less than Msrp so maybe that’s why I don’t mind its few faults. Also if you put the cargo area shelf into the lower position you get 20 cubic feet with the seats still up

[@AbouTto_]

What's a good price to pay?

[@jmer3536]

I unfortunately dont see many on the road in my city. It has a beautiful interior but needs more POWER

[@Geoduck.]

Thank you Kirk. A detailed but easy to understand comparison. Not many KZbin presenters can pull that off. New subscriber.

[@Soh90]

My wife currently owns a 2019 C-HR Limited. If the UX is anything like the C-HR it’s based off, I know that it’s a great driving and handling little car. But I also know that it is painfully catastrophically slow. The UX should have came standard with the 2.5 NA 4 with 200 hp as a standard motor and the RAV4’s hybrid system with 219 hp as an optional motor. Both engines could have been able to be paired with AWD/eAWD. Lexus did not have to try to under-cut the competition in price here. They could have charged $1,500 - $2,000 more for the car and given it a real powertrain. My wife’s C-HR is a great car. But it would be exponentially better with the 2.5 NA 4 + 8 speed combo and AWD. If the car was offered like that we would 100% keep it. But after 3 years I just can’t get over the grainy engine note and gross lack of AWD even though every other competitor offers it. So we’ll be moving on to a different brand. Toyota has all the parts in their parts bin, but they rarely ever put them together properly.

[@1northsparrow246]

Exactly!!! Wait for the Corolla Cross vs UX comparison videos that give the AWD Cross an easy victory over the UX that costs 10 Grand more.

[@Javonn143_]

The UX is too much money for what it is if we’re being honest here

[@texan903]

Can't the same be said for most of these over-hyped, cookie cutter crossovers?

[@Yormsane]

Agreed. Costs more than a Venza, but offers a lot less of everything.

[@moeanthony9308]

Meh it's a CHR I fact even that is better

[@Javonn143_]

@@texan903 some pull it off wayyyy better than this though

[@willnye9788]

Agreed Lexus stickered the UX way too high. I was lucky to get an end of the year online and lease discount. Got a fully loaded F-sport hybrid for $36K down from $40K. Even the competition in the luxury segment offers way more for a $40K+ price tag. It is no doubt the cheapest in the luxury segment which is what Lexus was going for but people buying a Lexus I presume would care more about performance and design compared to price.

[@bruce3412]

Fast forward to May 2022 and gas prices are soaring. I think people will over look the lack or power, and trunk space for the mpg's. This is basically an empty nester vehicle or a couple with no kids. You have to look at what the vehicle is and who is it meant for.

[@maddy2419]

Easiest improvement Lexus could have done is move the battery pack to underneath the back seat like all other toyotas , not sure why that didn't strike them

[@adhds69]

My dealer lent me one while the LS600 is getting work and I'm pleasantly surprised with the 2020 ux250h, fun, comfy, sexy, and most important efficient!❤️

[@naveenthemachine]

You have the ls600hl? Lucky 😈😠 That model imo is the pinnacle of any Lexus LS sedan including the current one

[@adhds69]

@@naveenthemachine you're absolutely right! I just happened to be lucky that out of the only 3 national listings I saw, one was in the town over from me. But if you ever get the chance to check one out or drive, it is an experience that will change you forever, the only names I envy now are Rolls and Maybach

[@naveenthemachine]

@@adhds69 what year is your 600hL? My favorite one is the 2010-12 model where they added that really cool lcd instrument cluster

[@adhds69]

@@naveenthemachine it's unfortunately the first design 08-10, so the steering isn't quite as tight and the infotainment is slower than my '12 GX460 😂 but the ride, sound quality, and sheer amount of conscientious design on every level is tremendous!

[@adhds69]

Oh I forgot to mention, it still pulls like a V12😈

[@ruzzelladrian907]

I really like the compact size of the UX. The higher seating position is nice step up than getting just a hatchback, even though it's riding on the same platform as the Corolla.

[@Soh90]

Also, I’m not surprised that the XC40 is taking off in sales. My wife actually ordered a XC40 before buying her C-HR. She backed out of it because Koons Volvo in Baltimore tried to steal her $6,000 down payment. And I mean LITERALLY tried to steal. Quoted her $700/mo. For what essentially amounted to a $30,000 car. After two days of fighting with them they said they made a “mistake” and the payment should actually be $448. At that point the damage was done. We don’t do business with crooks. And we didn’t want an unreliable BMW or Mercedes product so off to Toyota we went. At the time the UX wasn’t out so we got the C-HR. But based on our experience, the XC40 was and still is the best in the class. If Lexus would give the UX a better power-train, it would stand a better chance.

[@korswe]

Buy a Tesla. No more games.

[@Soh90]

@@mrsj1417 Oh but it did, as unbelievable as it sounds. That is not something I would make up and I certainly wouldn’t name-drop a dealership for no reason. But I took that personal. Especially since my wife was pregnant at the time and the salesman (Maurice) was well aware that we needed a car because my wife was having a baby. But it was a blessing because you’re right, these new generation Volvo products have horrible reliability. My neighbor has a S60, a car that I’ve always admired, but he’s already complaining about electric issues. Also our C-HR was significantly less expensive than the XC40 (about 8k) and was probably the better choice for a child to kick and spill things in. Now that’s she’s older we’ll be looking at something slightly nicer, but I certainly won’t be going to Volvo. Edit: Also a salesman would absolutely take that kind of money from you. Salesman do much worse that that haha. But some people are smart and run the calculations before they go to the dealership and others go there with no clue on what they’re doing and fall for the “how much do you want to pay a month” trick.

[@korswe]

@@mrsj1417 Have you ever tried to finance or lease a car in the US? I can attest to something similar with my own experiences at a Toyota dealer. I walked into the dealer lot as I was waiting around for my wife to be done with her hair appointment a few years back. I was interested in a Sienna XLE trim. I know that paying close to 1% of the MSRP for a monthly lease for 36 months with $1,000 drive off is a standard to which I try to lease all of my cars. Well, the salesman whom greeted me asked me if I wanted some water bottle and told me to take a seat at his open cubicle so that he can get a lease payment for me. He came back with $660/mo! I told him that I am looking for closer to $400/mo. He said he’ll talk to his boss and that he may be able to look into special promotions. He came back with $510/mo. After a few more wrangling, he said they couldn’t do anything less than $500/mo. I said thank you but no thanks. When I got home, I was able to get a quote from multiple dealers for $420/mo. I actually ended up with a Honda Odyssey EX-L with entertainment system for less than $420/mo. I also had a similar experience with Lexus, Volvo, Mercedes and BMW dealers. Honda dealers are much better. At any rate, I buy Teslas now, so no more games to play.

[@moeanthony9308]

How's the chr? Why did you choose it?

[@Soh90]

@@korswe Exactly. Playing games with a lease vehicle is especially stupid because there’s literally an equation to calculate the monthly cost. There’s should be no haggling. Either give me the damn car or kick rocks. At the time when we ordered the XC40, Volvo was running a subscription service called care by Volvo. I knew the salesman was lying to me and I tried to give him several chances to come clean. I mentioned to him that Volvo is willing to lease (subscribe) us a car for about $650/mo and that price included the vehicle and insurance and maintenance, so why would you try to tell me my monthly payment for JUST the car is nearly $700, especially with 6k down. His response? “Well I just sold a XC40 to a couple for this amount” As if I give a s**t what he sold an XC40 to some other sucker for. Besides, our car was essentially bare bones with the exception of the T5 AWD drivetrain. We specifically ordered it that way because all the other XC40s on the lot were heavily optioned and way overpriced. Maybe you sold a $45,000 XC40 to someone. But I digress… In any case, Tesla is definitely onto something. Skip the damn middleman dealer and order your car online. No haggling, no people talking to bosses, no “oh that salesman you were talking to yesterday went on vacation (Maurice)”, no BS.

[@seesaw5916]

Lots of opportunities was missed by Lexus for the UX. The UX is the one Lexus dieing for a true performance package. It has the looks and the stance. Unfortunately it will not happen. From the start, Lexus has prioritized fuel economy over performance.

[@naveenthemachine]

The fact that a rav4 hybrid will smoke any UX really shows

[@kenhoward3512]

I couldn't agree more: The UX needs a total redesign, not just a couple of new colors. It likely appeals to those who decide they will purchase only a Toyota/Lexus product, but is not really competitive within the category, in any respect (except for fuel economy, which should be secondary to performance for a "luxury" brand).

[@Tendertroll1]

I love driving the hybrid ux in heavy city driving, it’s perfect for that. It’s horrible in long distance or highway driving also the run flat tires are super loud and stiff

[@chuchum3]

I have both the 200 and 250. 250 drives better but the 200 is fine. I use both for my catering business so fuel efficiency is important. While they are certainly not fast they are adequate.Comfy and agile. Love the new TNGA platform. I drive Macan S and 992 Targa 4S as personal cars so I know what speed is like lol

[@willnye9788]

I've been noticing it is in a lot of trouble. Lexus is boldly ignoring it. I've had my UXh since October last year and on my last year of my lease. I have really been enjoying it but it needs A LOT of work. For one, the EV battery is terrible it only gets about a mile of electric charge and that's if it has not been depleted yet from general driving. Two, the gas tank is flaud with how much it holds even a Honda HRV gets way more to a full tank. Third, it sits way too low to the ground that depending where I park the front doors hit the sidewalk. Lastly, the cargo volume both without and with seats folded down is just a huge let down. Lexus needs to address the following...they need to refine the battery or at least make it a plug-in, they need to increase the fuel tank, it needs to be raised up enough to provide better ground clearance (similar to competition), and it just needs a completely new redesign to give it more space without making it bigger than the NX. After my lease, I am planning to leave Lexus since nothing new has caught my eye in the sub-compact segment the new Audi Q4 has caught my eye for my first EV or Toyota's new bz4x.

[@xuhan4682]

This car makes sense if we are talking bad traffic and ridiculous gas price, or a lot of stop&go city driving. For most parts of the country where the highway traffic is reasonably smooth and gas is cheap, it's a tough sell.

[@0sus]

back in the office!

[@sassysasparilla2922]

I found it too cramped in the back..even dog’s water bowl wouldn’t have enough room..great mileage but didn’t care for the frankenstein knob placement..NX looked more practical.

[@TheQueensWish]

I do t like those knobs either. They shouldn’t be there.

[@Mgoblagulkablong]

It can't even compete with the Mazda CX-30 Turbo, it really needs a more powerful engine option. And the other versions need a lower price.

[@alwaysiyi272]

I think the price is quite good but I feel the powertrains let it down

[@willnye9788]

I think after my lease is up with my UX I am going to look at the CX-30, I have been seeing them around town and that turbo is a nice touch but I kind of want to stay in the luxury segment. Audi's new Q4 looks promising as well but I don't think I am ready to go full on electric.

[@tinhinnh]

People just don’t want a luxury sub compact, period. Can’t put all the blame on the UX

[@imnotusingmyrealname4566]

Yup. A Camry is so much better than this for the price, heck a Civic Touring is probably as refined as the UX.

[@naveenthemachine]

@@imnotusingmyrealname4566 agreed on both Although Im a tad weary on the turbo reliability of the civic. Not sold on turbos tbh no matter who makes them even if it’s from Toyota or lexus But UX vs Camry I’d take a Camry any day especially the XSE with the v6. The fact that you put a Camry in the same conversation / sentence as the UX should show just how far the Camry has come and how good it really is these days

[@imnotusingmyrealname4566]

@@naveenthemachine Yeah. I prefer the XLE V6 trim of the Camry. Also it's kinda annoying that Honda doesn't allow you to choose the engines in every trim. In Europe the base engine is a 1.0L Turbo and not a 2.0L engine and again they don't last as long. I wonder if they'll keep the diesel in the Civic here for the new gen, if everything is turbo I'd choose that.

[@KuyaArbee]

in the USA.... the UX IS ATROCIOUSLY EQUIPPED.... no triple beam headlights.... no active bending headlights.... no Mark Levinson... no 360 camera.... COMPROMISED INTERIOR.... F*CKING TERRIBLE PRACTICALITY..... no passenger read leg room... and the trunk room is a JOKE! I went to test drive a UX 250H LOVED IT! but then Test Drove an XC40 Rdesign and never looked back at Lexus again >.

[@mark_u]

Lexus really dropped the ball with the UX. They could be doing so much better in sales if it was more practical and had more capable powertrains. An all-new model can't come soon enough.

[@tinhinnh]

Then people wouldn’t buy the NX or RX then

[@mark_u]

@@tinhinnh Audi, BMW and Volvo have shown that there could be practical subcompact CUVs with more flexible powertrain options. I don't think the Q3, X1 and XC40 are cannibalizing Q5, X3 and XC60 sales. Lexus should have done better considering they're quite late to the subcompact crossover party

[@tinhinnh]

@@mark_u The reason is the germans aren’t fully committed to hybrids as Lexus is. they made the Ux solely for the hybrid customers. This is basically a CT replacement in a x-over body

[@reezabaca]

wow what detailed review you provided there mate, just what i needed as i just put a reservation for a 2022 model. Seems like i should be open to finding other competitive cars.

[@ekgcanadianenthusiast9961]

I don't see a problem with the ux because nx and rx also exist that means the Ux can't get too big so if it's selling well don't change it. My solution for the next generation ux is.use the corolla cross as the platform simple as that.

[@willnye9788]

That sounds like it would be exactly what it needs, does not surpass the NX in size but leaves extra room to improve it with a new platform.

[@alwaysiyi272]

I feel if Lexus gave the UX the turbo from the NX, and AWD and maybe make like a UX300 F sport performance, it might make it sell a little more

[@willnye9788]

Unfortunately, I think it would be priced way out of the competition making it a sitting duck. A turbo I think would be a good touch but then it loses its "economic" persona and a F-sport performance version would just be way too much. Lexus just unveiled their plug-in NX and I think the UX needs the exact treatment leaving the hybrid as a base and introducing a more refined powerful plug-in UX at a modest price increase that stays below the new NX.

[@imnotusingmyrealname4566]

Crossovers over crossovers over crossovers...

[@djnaz6546]

I have driven a Fsport as a loaner and it did not feel like a great luxury car for what you pay. I had two friends look at purchasing and they did not because the infotainment was hard to use and the way the interior is designed with the higher window sills the lady drivers felt when sitting inside the car it was bulky and not easy to see around not to mention the small back window. Also given the high price and lack of space it’s honestly not a great practical car. Yes you can go the NX however when paying this type of money you expect better value for your money, no wonder the xc40 is doing so well! Lexus really needs to think about their target market which are value buyers who want a great overall package which is practical with great tech.

[@nickhayesreviews]

Really shouldve launched with the 8AR engine, would be quite a fun, zippy little vehicle if it did. Rav4 Hybrid powertrain would've been great too. Both current choices are way too underpowered.

[@Trades46]

The 8AR engine is on its way out. The newer T24A from the new NX is compelling but that would put the NX in a precarious market position if the UX was cheaper and faster.

[@damie79blessed38]

For some reason Lexus/Toyota always drops the ball when it comes to power. Don't get me wrong their good vehicle but its fustrating. I own a clean 03 Celica GT-S which never truly match the competition on power.

[@naveenthemachine]

Thr only engine that’s good on power is the 3.5L v6 and 5.0L v8

[@chevyss934]

Omg yes Toyota lexus suck on power. There reilabe but sluggish hence why old pple buy them. #TheNewBuick 😂😂😂

[@naveenthemachine]

@@chevyss934 I find their 3.5L v6 peppy.

[@chevyss934]

@@naveenthemachine my 08 acura tl type S is more peppy n its an old car. Heck i was even disappointed with the new Type S Tlx. Ive not driven it but its been loosing every race 🤦‍♂️

[@naveenthemachine]

@@chevyss934 what’s the 0-60? I’ve heard 4.7 seconds as the lowest But yeah I wish the tlx kept the j series v6 as the base engine

[@will.davlin]

Cars are weird cuz every company could have 4 models and be thatd be enough

[@JJJosh949]

I feel they should beef it up a bit more, similar to what happened to the GLA & the Q3. Which actually looks like a suv & not a hatch

[@willnye9788]

I honestly like the hatch look so it looks more sleeker but it needs more power and needs to be raised enough to meet up to the competition. The Subaru Crosstrek looks like a hatch and it's got a beefy look that makes it stand out.

[@JJJosh949]

@@willnye9788 fair but don’t you think that a hot hatch IS would be more appropriate for that. I think the UX needs to be like a baby LX (similar to the GLB)

[@willnye9788]

@@JJJosh949 ohh I couldn't agree more. A baby LX would be nice but with a sleek look while the IS could be more hatchback like. Hopefully Lexus reads these comments lol.

[@JJJosh949]

@@willnye9788 haha one can only hope!

[@willnye9788]

@@JJJosh949 well he does work for Lexus so anything is possible ha

[@ronaldarambulo6450]

It would be nice if it's going to have a F version with over 250 HP and a further lifted ground clearance.

[@kristians2704]

an F version should have at least 300hp

[@alh06]

250 hp is enough to compete power wise. Not to be an F version. No small crossover should be branded with that distinguished name.

[@00raisergundam]

The UX is pretty hot here in NYC the H that is but never seen the normal UX

[@1northsparrow246]

The 250h give greatly improved fuel economy and AWD, why would anyone buy the 200?

[@ekgcanadianenthusiast9961]

Power is not a issue because x1 x2 Audi q3 gla glb xc40 are more expensive so I don't care about power numbers but avoid the non hybrid model

[@1northsparrow246]

Kirk, As others have noted, a premium badge should come with a premium drivetrain. At a minimum, this glorified Corolla Cross should have the 219 hp, 2.5 Hybrid AWD system from the Venza and RAV4.

[@walterndlovu6329]

The UX does not need to be any bigger. If you want bugger get NX or RX. I like UX snuggy compact feel. This why yall didn't get a GR Yaris because yall want everything to be bigger

[@RevLexus]

soo true

[@denisem9407]

Yup. People complain it's not big enough, not fast enough. Go find something that suits your needs. I've test driven the 250h several times, on back roads and highways, and it's a great car for someone who doesn't need or want a full size SUV.

[@willnye9788]

I own a UX, I think it should at least be up to par in the size of a Volvo XC40 or Jaguar E-Pace. Those or at least close to the Subaru Crosstrek or Mazda CX-30 with its hatchback design.

[@boldyo]

The UX looks even better when you consider that the top of the line Prius Limited sells for $34,465. The base FWD UX is faster, way more luxurious and better looking for around the same price!

[@nicholasriley3569]

Totally agree Kirk. I'd go further..... the UX is butt ugly with that wacky styling. The interior is well made but strangely doesn't look premium in the way that the CT interior once did. Huge own goal by Lexus. Not surprised sales have been disappointing.

[@ralfstam6633]

Totally agree. I own a CT and got a UX250h FWD as a loaner during service on my CT. The only things I liked was the engine and the ride (apart from the tyre noise). All the rest was less good. Especially the interior is very disappointing for a Lexus. No luxury feeling at all.

[@mixed_beauty]

I just see people complaining about the power of the engine when it’s clear that this type of car is committed to the comfort and efficiency of someone who doesn’t have children and doesn’t compete in races.

[@KirkKreifels]

The problem is that you're paying BIG money for the UX but you get the same engine and transmission as a $21,000 Corolla.

[@michaelsmith9308]

All that needs to be said is reliability, cost and OMG....41 MPG KILLS the competition:) SO will the 2022 Toyota Cross hybrid AWD, pretty sure it will be the exact same engine to save cost!

[@amode8761]

Lexus doesn’t seem to go for practicality/ space with the UX, NX or RX compared to its competitors… would I be right that they are always towards the back in these areas?

[@alh06]

The RX is pretty competitive, but the NX and UX are smaller offerings.

[@seikocitizenwatches]

I’d opt for the 2022 NX hybrid.

[@1northsparrow246]

Agreed!! The 240 hp hybrid system in the new NX should equal the UX's mpg while greatly increasing performance.

[@naveenthemachine]

@@1northsparrow246 the nx hybrid will get 36mpg combined. The same mpg as a sienna hybrid or Highlander hybrid.

[@1northsparrow246]

@@naveenthemachine We will see if a lighter vehicle will get the same mpg as heavier ones.

[@Stefin770]

Yeah the Lexus CT looks way better than this, too bad it got canceled 😞

[@InternetDude]

Yeah and I just learned today you can still get the CT in Japan 🤦‍♂️

[@jayzala]

Why did you change the intro music? It threw me off haha

[@lryoung17]

If they don't throw that base 2.5 203Hp engine in the 2022 NX in there as an F Performance model. It's like a no brainer. 💯 It just needs more power & the hybrid should be base and they should just drop the 2.0 from it

[@animalmother4]

The black plastic fender trim has never looked right on the ux

[@wwdd83]

agreed. which i why i chose the black line edition ux and it looks waaaaay better

[@mantocats]

Perhaps too expensive for the equipment and engines ⁉️❗ Should have the option hybrid plug-in and not just the hybrid ‼️

[@willnye9788]

I second the idea of a plug-in. The UX would do well as a smooth sub-compact PHEV. Europe already gets the EV version that puts out over 200+hp.

[@erlingskancke2866]

Exactly why would it need even more power? Why not a luxury car with excellent fuel economy? I agree on the interior space, though...

[@naveenthemachine]

True. But on the other hand you can get a rav4 that’s admittedly not luxury but has more features and gets the same mpg and is way faster

[@willnye9788]

I would say because the Luxury segment is offered based on the foundation of a more polished vehicle. A vehicle that performs well, is comfortable, feels and looks luxurious.

[@erlingskancke2866]

@@willnye9788 I agree with those points, but I don't see why "more polished vehicle" implies "more power". Most cars sold in the US are plenty powerful, at least given the low speed limits here (sometimes more (low-end) torque would be useful, but imo power is usually not the limiting factor). But there's still a lot of room for distinguishing between luxury and non-luxury options in terms of other aspects of performance, comfort, feel and look. That's why I disagree with the focus on power.

[@willnye9788]

@@erlingskancke2866 I get what you're saying not disagreeing but it's the mentality of consumers that buy luxury. I mean look at Lamborghini, I don't think people who have money want to buy an exotic vehicle that has the same type of quality as a non-luxury vehicle yet they will pay more for a brand. A luxury vehicle is meant to have more power to differentiate from the others. Say I'm gonna pay $50-75K+ on a vehicle I would expect it to have advanced performance with at least 400+hp, the interior high quality, the driving dynamics posh, and the design of it to look elegant enough to stand out. Now can economy be factored in that approach I'm sure they could refine the engine to give it adequate performance while still saving at the pump. This is where hybrid or even PHEV tech can come in handy. Would love to see a Lambo Urus hybrid that works well paired with an electric motor to crank out over 700+ hp. It all just comes down to preference and what is expected in the luxury segment.

[@JJdaSamuRai]

Lexus and Toyota could care less about the US market this was evident since the JZX100 vs gen 1-2 ES models

[@Trades46]

The UX biggest issue is its lackluster infotainment system. The touchpad is a mistake and Lexus knows this, which explains the MY2020 RX, MY2021 IS and MY2022 NX touchscreens. The engine also leaves you wanting. Yes the UX 250h gets great MPG but its hp output is not competitive at all, ditto the even slower UX 200. The XC40, Q3, X1 and GLA are just that much better choices.

[@naveenthemachine]

Even a rav4 hybrid or venza hybrid are better options than the Lexus UX.

[@ricardokim4870]

#1car,Lexus ux.2 Volvo, 2 Mercedes, 2 Honda, Saturn,ford,bmw,jeep, Nissan.my next CAR, Lexus ux or Toyota cross Corolla.

[@TMM6900]

Not a fan of ux. It's tiny and cramp af. No spare tire . heck CT feels larger. I believe has a spare too

[@CJ-zz9ts]

North American Lexus UX is an upscale Corolla Cross available in Asia

[@jkim6509]

No idea why people will get a UX at that price when you could get a cx30 with the turbo. They really didn't put much thought into the UX as a model.

[@sv52308]

Except that's a Mazda...

[@jkim6509]

@@sv52308 And the UX is a lifted rebadged corolla. Your point? The lexus name does nothing for the UX.

[@sv52308]

@@jkim6509 interior quality and design and safety standards and overall quality do a lot for the UX it's certainly not just a lifted Corolla

[@rodysk8]

2022 Lexus Ux 250 hybrid or 2022 new RAV4 hybrid ????

[@imnotusingmyrealname4566]

This is on the TNGA-C platform??

[@hlfbrwnhlfamzng]

that turbo 6 cylinder found in some of the lc coupes needs to trickle down asap

[@naveenthemachine]

The LC doesn’t have a turbo. You’re thinking the LS probably

[@zm4242]

Is Regular non hybrid UX getting AWD drive train ?

[@cyrilthomas9730]

The DIRECT4 makes the most sense for the UX as a F Sport Perfomance....

[@joelcleare]

Lexus gave me a 2021 UX as a loaner. It was pretty bad. Didn’t seem like a Lexus.

[@jackyzhang4915]

Yes exactly it has a Corolla engine. I have an NX

[@mononeo]

The 2021 Blackline Special Edition UX 250h had color-keyed fenders in Grecian Water! In the USA!

[@stea2494]

In canada the ux is same or more $ as tesla model 3 standard range. Guess which one you should get!

[@blackdove6713]

Bring back the Sportcross

[@fabulousprofound]

My uncle traded in his old Sportcross for a UX…. There is no forgiveness for that 😫

[@1northsparrow246]

@ Mathew Ramirez, Yes the world needs a new Lexus wagon!!!

[@jxmar_]

Tbh I can see Lexus discontinue the UX all together to give us the corolla cross hybrid which will always sell better then the Lexus

[@naveenthemachine]

@@mrsj1417 and on top of that, since most Toyotas outsell lexus vehicles, they could kill lexus altogether

[@lexurious2227]

I love my UX200 F-Sport, perfect for Manila traffic.

[@scenicdepictionsofchicagolife]

Ok hear me out though... the UX really is the successor to the CT. It even looks hatchback-y, and honestly if you're splitting hairs, just install lowering springs. And BAM, you got a next gen CT200h. My only gripe are those... taillight's design - not a fan of bar taillight's or those wired fins on the edges of the UX taillight housing. Perhaps this could be remedied in a mid cycle refresh! Though, I'm scared Lexus will iver-futureify it if they do that and I like that the current UX is still pretty analog for what it is. Hybrids don't need to be whacky space ships, most of us just want normal cars with physical working parts (unlike the new NX's door mechanisms). Even so, I think this (the hybrid) is going to be my next car once my 07 Toyota matrix I've been driving for over a decade dies. (Though ... it may out last me!) LOL Also a side thought, the new NX taillights look blatantly copied from infiniti's (honestly borning and uninspiring) new design language. Just look at the QX50 and QX30.

[@digitaldoc100]

It is essentially an overpriced, nonluxury crossover, with a Lexus badge. Needs a major powertrain update.

[@Sacto1654]

I wonder will Lexus drop the UX altogether. Reason: it too overlaps with the less expensive Toyota Corolla Cross, due the end of this year.

[@willnye9788]

I hear Lexus is working on a smaller vehicle more in line with the Yaris and if that makes it to production and to the U.S. I presume they would refine the UX to cater to a more desired crowd since it would no longer be an entry vehicle. The whole family gets a boost in size and performance starting with the UX.

[@beastbee0118]

I LOOVVEE it!!!

[@rudyarevalo6264]

I’d say styling is its biggest downfall. The Volvo is a bit boxy and handsome. And the UX is like they mated a CT and a RX and were like it’ll do. If it was a taller, boxier vehicle, say styled after the GX it would sell like hot cakes. It’s just trying so hard to be a CT that it misses the mark and then some. Also. The Corolla hatchback should have been a Lexus CT replacement just saying.

[@rudyarevalo6264]

@@mrsj1417 Ummm. That is not at all what I described. And I would know. I own both a GX and an NX. The NX is basically a raised IS suv/coupe. I’m talking about something smaller and boxy. Like the Renegade, Venue, Soul, or even the xB. What is it that you don’t get?

[@muhammadhanifkurnaen6689]

Rav4 prime power train would be nice

[@Xander1Sheridan]

I just don't see the value in many of these cars. I'm all for small cars having owned a Yaris for 11 years, but these cars are too expensive on one side, and get their ass kicked by used versions of their more expensive brethren on the other.

[@joec1774]

The UX is neither better than ever nor a value option. If the UX was compelling (or its sibling the CH-R), people would be buying them. They are not, and thus, the "disappointment" from TMS in their sales. A rare miss by Toyota/Lexus IMO.

[@moeanthony9308]

People are not buying a chr.. Ever look at European sales? . Sales have gone up on chr in NA. It holds its own.

[@Joeyyyy87]

The CH-R should’ve been the UX!!!!

[@r.m.s.605]

It sorta is, they use the same platform as the CH-R.

[@moeanthony9308]

Yea it is.. Chr in ride is even better.

[@jessebettis501]

turning Circle info?

[@stevengodfrey891]

It is selling more because more people like it……

[@thatswiss1385]

While I really like Lexus, I don't really like the UX. To tiny from the inside, the design is kind of sluggish etc. At least it's very reliable, but if you buy a luxury car, there should be more than "only" reliability. I'd rather get the new Hyundai Tucson instead, you get more for less there. Thanks for sharing and best regards from Switzerland!

[@arlenes8085]

Th UX is great in Switzerland with the parking spaces the size they are. I don't want to have to park the Tucson in any underground garage here. A friend has a Hyundai and it drives like a tank.

[@imnotusingmyrealname4566]

Is the GLA 250 the new or old model?

[@moeanthony9308]

That's a pretty CHR

[@imnotusingmyrealname4566]

"Will they put a turbocharged mill in it? No." 🤣 Toyota's hesitancy on turbos is kinda ridiculous.

[@InternetDude]

I have an LS500 with twin turbos. They suuuuuck. I want NA now.

[@naveenthemachine]

If Toyota goes turbo then it’s the end of toyotas long term reliability where “Toyota’s can go 300K miles or more on the original engine and transmission” I’m no sold on turbos and never will be tbh.

[@imnotusingmyrealname4566]

@@naveenthemachine True. In Europe they don't last nearly as long.

[@InternetDude]

@@naveenthemachine yes I wouldn’t buy any turbo car if I planned to keep it more than 5-6 years.

[@rileypart1]

Wish Lexus/Toyota could’ve give us the UX Electric already. I’m sicking tired of same old stuff in states they have been doing this over decades they won’t refreshed or new model til 3-7 year cycles. And I’ve 2020 Prius Prime it’s same old boring style from 2017 model year no range added nor refreshed just tiny bit feature.

[@imnotusingmyrealname4566]

It's just a stupid buy, period.

[@naveenthemachine]

Most mainstream cuvs or midsize sedans are better buys than this

[@denisem9407]

@@naveenthemachine but that's not what people who buy this car are looking for. They're not looking for another gas guzzling giant that hogs the highway. It's a great car despite its drawbacks - which every car has.

[@denisem9407]

And this is a stupid comment.

[@Somewhatblank]

It needs that new turbo from the NX to be competitive

[@adhds69]

It's just a fancy Prius C

[@1northsparrow246]

It is a fancy Corolla Cross.

[@naveenthemachine]

@@1northsparrow246 the corolla cross Is arguably better power Train wise because the 4 cylinder will offer AWD. Something lacking on a much pricier UX lol

[@1northsparrow246]

@@naveenthemachine I can hardly wait for the UX vs Corolla Cross comparison videos.