Salmon Snagging Oak Orchard Dam

What the fun in fishing like this is I have no idea, but this all too common here at Oak Orchard and Burt Dam. I guess people don't think that salmon can be caught, but if people would actually fish here it would be the best place to wet a line after the fish stack up here. After stepping in this mess and fair hooking a king on a gulp minnow, It tangled some peoples lines and made for an uproar. Funny you get yelled at for fair hooking a fish here.

[@wan2shuffle]

I agree snagging isn't fishing. Its just tiring. I am going to go snagging in a landlocked lake where salmon are stocked. Snagging is allowed at the certain times in this lake and the salmon are not biting anymore, this is the time they are about to die. If people didn't go snagging, all the salmon would literally just sit and rot in the lake. It's a good way to get a lot of food.

[@thomasted8363]

@Truth Warrior yes

[@jesse75]

@@thomasted8363 are you a gook ?

[@douglastanney2509]

I have witnessed this bafoonery first hand. This is clearly not fishing. My advice is to stay away from these neandertals and fish down stream away from the chaos.

[@Shinuchiha_99]

Well if it's allowed in this area how is it bafoonery.. I agree snagging isnt ethical but if it is allowed then you can do it.. You highsticking fly rod types are the reason fishing gets looked upon badly.. Oh and btw nobody probably cares about your opinion just saying

[@feralcrow4342]

Also call the authorities and let them all fet busted

[@michaelguentzel4464]

First off I am an avid hunter and love to fish and always follow the rules and believe in obeying the law of the land even if I don’t agree with it, but who made you the decider of what is and what isn’t fishing!? How arrogant of you to think that putting a hook in an animals mouth and dragging it out of the environment which it can breathe is any better than snagging it, and do t tell me fish don’t feel pain, yeah right, keep telling yourself that if it makes you sleep better at night, you simply have been convinced of one more thing by our government and now you’re on your high horse regurgitating it trying to make other people feel dumb because they are willing to risk getting caught. If you wanted to eat that fish and didn’t feel like buying it, do you think you’d be worried about the method you caught it, or better yet if you were a Native American a hundred years ago catching fish for your family to eat and you snagged ten huge salmon for the day, do you think any dipshit like yourself would have the audacity to say “ that is clearly not fishing” no. I think what you simply mean to say is that is not legal, but it is clearly a form of fishing, don’t get butt hurt cause they are willing to break the law to eat, they’ll have to face the consequences if they get caught. You’re just a nosy snitch, go mind your business.

[@zacharycicirella8580]

i go to the oak annually in the fall. every king i have caught has swallowed my egg sac there is no need to snag just have some patience

[@arnelsinanovic4944]

Stop the cap 🧢 I

[@lovesskiingpow]

most anglers know that even when a salmon comes to spawn it will still hit. They attack other competing salmons eggs to give theirs a better chance of survival and will attack small fish to protect nest.

[@TheSmashmaster101]

nice thing is that they put up a requirement on PFDs there so this last weekend i got overran by snaggers down at the area where I pin fish. They also closed off the water side.

[@jrampulla1057]

he only pulled up once... and your video doesn't show where he hooked it. get bent

[@mikewood9374]

I've fished Oak Orchard and watched the DNR bust a bunch of clowns with a cooler full of roe. They watched these guys snag and cut the fish open and throw the roe in said cooler and leave the fish on the bank. Despicable!!! Had an amazing time fishing and I took home what I caught.

[@stevencrookall4598]

Lol.... I walk past these clowns every year. Its comedic. I fish downstream for the browns and steelies. This past weekend was warm and dry, and the clown show was in full swing.

[@wiliamboyajian1192]

You can swing a snag rig?

[@sambosin3841]

What are you gonna cry about it now? I smell a karen.

[@Goats22]

@@sambosin3841 found trhe sad loser who doesn't know how to fish and snags instead. i guess even idiots with no clue have to fill the freezer

[@russellparker4843]

im suprised the rod hasnt snaped with them masive salmon

[@jesse75]

That dam has a spillway. Too bad they didn't design it with a fish ladder. When the reservoir fills up and spills.

[@xxtoxicgodxxthelegand5909]

That’s how them PA fishermen are like when they come to 😂

[@BrandonHill-nc8sx]

That salmon is way too dark to keep. Rather get me a ocean bright one.

[@jesse75]

Sport or meat fish ? Sometimes you fish water where they don't bite. So it's frustrating when fish are boiling in front of you. That's been happening at one of my favorite fishing holes the last 3 years. Before that the fish would bite. The local guides are even taking clients fishing there.

[@Shinuchiha_99]

I guess fish that are gonna die soon anyways are supposed to "catch and release" fucking fly fisherman give me a head ache

[@brandonshoemaker6056]

+Matt Anderson Well its illegal and there is no thrill in it..I used to do it when I was a teenager but I just focus all of my attention on trout fishing these days.

[@noob4lyfesniper320]

+Brandon Shoemaker you ever hook a one of them fish by the tail of that size? by the end of the day your arms are so worn out from catching salmon. like Matt said these fish die and and they rot away on the side of the banks. they swim so far and they don't eat anymore so any kinda bait you use doesn't thrill them. To keep them fish no matter how you hook them can easily feed your family with the limit you catch. If your a fishermen, I don't care what kinda fishing you do you know the thrill of fighting i fish that big.

[@brandonshoemaker6056]

Noob4Lyfe SNIPER Yea I used to snag them back in the day and the fights are incredible..I live right by the lower niagara where you can catch some real monster salmon on stickbaits..Im an avid steelheader so I focus on catching the trout feeding on salmon eggs during the fall run

[@Shinuchiha_99]

@@brandonshoemaker6056 I mean yeah if it's illegal then it's illegal but by what I see in this video it looks like a bunch of grown men gossiping like middle school girls behind a camera about total strangers they don't know.. and if it is illegal then why are there so many people doing it in one spot? I mean 🤷

[@scottferguson2702]

Where is the DNR wardens?

[@angelofe1117]

Nice striper poles u jamooks

[@merrickbabcock1724]

Its bogus how these guys don't wanna fish correctly and just snag

[@Shinuchiha_99]

Yeah but if the law allows it then it's not illegal.. no matter how butthurt on a KZbin comment section you get about it.. there's two types of fisherman: the ones who follow the law as listed and the ones who bitch about you following the law because they don't like it..

[@rstats2127]

Hopefully you called Fish & Game

[@davidgribble263]

You can bet they were there !!!!!

[@billmaguire6994]

I heard they change to rules up there. People are not allowed snagging them like the use too. My buddy wanted me to go up there with him this past year. I find no fun in any of that there. I don't see what people see stand nut to butt snagging fishing.

[@robertstreams4362]

Snagging hasn't been legal in NY for like 20+ years or more...

[@jimkostek6274]

Why is this even on?? It was outlawed in 1995!! In NY anyway.

[@steelheadstalker]

We have the same problem here in Michigan at Tippy Dam. I bought a jet boat so I wouldn't have to be around the snagging assholes.

[@tommytwotoes3880]

Maybe they just wanted food.

[@bowhunter14870]

The almighty Mud Shark, I hate seeing this when I'm fishing there, and on the small tribs, it is disgusting

[@mcrowley1244]

And that get lock jaw so they cant even bite

[@nathandesmond3641]

Dont see this is bad if its legal here and they are catching this fish for food, they are after spawn so they are gonna die shortly after anyways might as well catch them before they do for food.

[@marcwebb2573]

Its not about being tree huggers, left or right wing, or any of that stuff. The concept of snagging is outdated, and unacceptable compared to normal sportsmanlike action. If snagging was legalized, it would make fishing too easy, and have the same affect as netting, which is being able to quickly decline a run of fish. Its not that hard to hook a fish in the mouth, and not look like a jackass whipping your rod around, not even giving the fish a chance to run from your hook flying towards them at god knows how fast. Stop being "that guy," and catch fish like most people, not a scumbag.

[@petejablowski2123]

Some states it’s actually legal bud

[@tonyrosario6370]

I'm foreigner and I can't understand what you mean or what does mean snagging a fish. can someone explain me it in simple English that a foreigner would understand.

[@bradygreenberg6668]

hooking the fish in any other place than inside of the mouth

[@masonpearson2867]

It’s illegal

[@ulsterrich4213]

Fowl hooked

[@douglastanney2509]

I have seen this first hand at the exact place. I have seen the many jagaloons standing 4 or 5 deep with hard hats and football helmets on pretending to be fishermen. I have seen the oversized reels spooled with 200lb Dacron line attached to pool cues. It was a gathering of the stupid.

[@badasssportsman8258]

You can see why some people think it's not really fishing... I'm not into salmon but I will snag carp and spoonbill

[@godfreak100]

I snag myself, but only for invasive Asian carp. If a fish can be caught in the lip, then it should be illegal to snag.

[@monkeydrills]

Personally not my idea of fishing however I do not see why people are upset with these guys if its legal ?

[@robertstreams4362]

Snagging hasn't been legal in NY for along time...

[@briantalbot394]

About 24 years now it's been illegal for

[@ALA-ih7hb]

Also it’s cruel to the fish

[@bofarmvlog679]

@@ALA-ih7hb fish can't feel

[@liveonguitar5625]

@@bofarmvlog679 Fish have stress hormones and nerves outside of their mouth area. Whether the actual phenomenon is pain as we know it is semantics, but it is harmful to the fish, especially prespawn. Postspawn, do your thing and have fun with the zombies if deadfish is your fetish but following R+R is key to not being an asshole when you're fishing.

[@enkeltfiske.5412]

Legeal?

[@liveonguitar5625]

Not in NY

[@hungrydad7537]

looks like a good time!

[@drvonnostrum2671]

I mean, if you're such a shit fisherman you can't legally catch fish, I guess...

[@skolnick44]

If you don't have a third grade education I guess

[@masonpearson2867]

It’s illegal

[@mcrowley1244]

Yeah I know king salmon and or chinook salmon die after spawning

[@AZFlacoo20]

Why can't kids fish

[@mikestapley4180]

I'm pretty sure salmon stop eating up to 6 months before they spawn. Whats better; A fish rotting at the bottom of a dam (that is there to provide you power), or a fish in the bottom of someones pan? It may not be that sporting but at least they're harvesting.

[@adamg5829]

I agree that if they've spawned and they will die anyway, then its not doing much harm to keep some anyway. Snagging is shitty but its the only way to catch them once they are in full spawn since they don't eat or hardly at all. But in this video the guy released the fucking salmon, where's the sport in that? took him all of 30 seconds to catch a 35 inch salmon with a foul hook and then released it, why not just keep it like you said and eat it? I hear they don't taste great post spawn because they are devoid of nutrients but do something. Put it out of its misery and eat it or feed it to your animals. Don't send it back in to live for a while longer now with a serious wound that could get infected.

[@AN-jz3px]

Mike Stapley You can still get them to hit.

[@brandonshoemaker6056]

+Mike Stapley Ive only really gotten salmon in the lower niagara river because they start coming into the river as early as late august and will take stickbaits and skein at night or first thing in the morning

[@masonpearson2867]

It’s unethical and illegal

[@magmasolution]

what a poor fishing experience

[@taraszhuchenya2152]

I’ll snag all I want what u gonna do?

[@paulman9989]

Hook you with a Treble Dip Shit

[@jdyun8697]

We protect our sanctuaries in Canada! What is this madness

[@Chrispy1990ful]

There are a lot of waterways in the US where salmon are artificially stocked and if they don't get caught that year they will all just die, so they can be taken by pretty much any means.

[@liveonguitar5625]

@@Chrispy1990ful This is NOT one of those waterways. Gotta love the land of the free

[@Chrispy1990ful]

@@liveonguitar5625 Not really a problem. Legal take is legal take for a reason.

[@liveonguitar5625]

@@Chrispy1990ful Yup! In NYS Legal take is 3 per person per day fairhooked.

[@Chrispy1990ful]

@@liveonguitar5625 12 per person per day here in NM during snagging season. And a limit of 24 in possession. Once they are actually filleted they no longer count towards possession limit.

[@pinebian]

Awesome

[@wyattnelson5874]

I have snagged a salmon in Alaska before and I don't really count it because later in my trip i caught five salmon on a spoon in the mouth. I don't have a problem with snagging as long as you release a few non spawned out salmon here and there and keep a few but if a person keeps every salmon they catch/snag I don't think that's right. The guy in the video who released it is not bad for snagging it in my opinion. If he were to keep every salmon he caught/snagged I think that is just to much for you/your family to consume and not let them spawn.

[@brittanyarford6353]

Wyatt Nelson it's bad enough for a fish to get hooked through the mouth and released, but imagine a salmon that's been snagged a few times especially if it gets snagged and comes off the line before its out. Things torn to pieces and dies in the water.

[@brandonshoemaker6056]

To all of you posting on here that Im guessing are from Pennsylvania or Ohio, you should do your homework and look where it says that "Snatching" is illegal..its on the DEC website. If you would like, I would be glad to call the dec and tip them off the next salmon run and let them prove it to you when youre getting fined for foul hooking fish.

[@lizstevens2375]

i know iam late but if i snag with a jig by mistake and its stomach out iam going to keep him

[@liveonguitar5625]

@@lizstevens2375 There's a clause in DEC R+R, fish accidentally fouled are to be released immediately upon landing.

[@Bryan-dn1nx]

only way to stop is make illegal to snag, Bottom line snagging is lack of respect for our fishery

[@markherrold9525]

hook 150 fish a day 70% in the mouth why not?

[@swimbait1]

Really dark fish, low quality

[@loe7980]

I dont know how it is snagging for salmon or trout but snagging for catfish is the only thing I do.

[@billeaster7031]

These salmon are going to die anyway, and their carcasses will rot. In Colorado they encourage us to snag in the fall so that the dead carcasses will not pollute the rivers, and reservoirs.

[@rob066101]

I Know they die but in NY they must be hooked in the mouth. If they are not and hooked other than in the mouth you get fined. It is now a money making game.

[@mojo200390]

Dead carcasses are not pollution. Their dead bodies will provide food and nutrients to insect larvae in rivers and lakes. The insect larvae provide food for other fish species as well as the salmon smolts that hatch in the spring. Animals will drag dead fish into the woods for a meal and the leftover fish will fertilize the soil for the stream side trees and vegetation that will provide shade and cover for the next generation of salmon.There is no waste in nature.

[@TiredAmerican247]

Who ever told you that is a moron. What salmon run to Colorado?

[@rapidoutdoors2570]

FYI before salmon die they do something called reproduce. So if you wanna go on the fact that they are gonna die and we might as well catch every single one, then there would be no reproduction and no population left. Sure in some places the runs are stocked, but almost all stocked rivers support some degree of natural reproduction. And rotting salmon carcases is part of the life cycle, as said by mojo. They take all the nutrients from the system to grow, and their death and decomposition is their way of giving back the energy and nutrients

[@fishman9682]

Here in Idaho you get caught snagging you get your licence taken away and your gear

[@taraszhuchenya2152]

Your mad cuz u can’t fish 😂

[@rodolfopineda6539]

Fish is to dark.let the fish spaning.

[@gretchenshea9833]

Why didn't you follow the fish and what the guy did with it? Thumbs down for that.

[@LaurelRidgeRodsPA]

+Gretchen Shea You can clearly see he let it go.

[@AN-jz3px]

+Gretchen Shea You didn't see the released it? Thumbs down for forgetting your glasses.

[@revenueretrieving5539]

because they have lives unlike you. anyone who goes to that extent is a nark. fucking pathetic and jealous.

[@kenrowe7594]

What all you nay sayers are not realizing is that DURING the spawn, most adult Salmon actually go through a physical change where their internal organs start shutting down, their mouths form big hooks, and they dont hunt for food. They turn bright red over most of their body and the physical changes mean it is the end of their life cycle. They become very aggressive and then they die. Looking at the size of the water way in the video, it looks fairly deep with a good current. Where I'm from, MOST rivers are barely even the size of a 2 lane road and less than 4 or 5 ft deep in the pockets. Few areas are any larger. If we relied on conventional means we would fail because they aren't interested in food- they are interested in spawning BEFORE they die. It may not be the prettiest way to catch a fish, but if it's the spawn time, its the ONLY time it should be aloud, and ONLY in certain areas. Besides- it's all about luck if you snag one cause you are casting blind without anything to attract them. Dragging a bare hook along and actually hitting one is not as easy as you'd think it is.

[@dondre3000]

You have to be the biggest idiot I've ever seen form a sentence in my entire life. THEY'RE SPAWNING! THEY DON'T WANT TO EAT! THAT DOESN'T GIVE YOU THE RIGHT TO FORCE FEED THEM WITH YOUR MEAT STICK! No shit they're not hungry, you mo-mo! "But if it's the spawn time, its the ONLY time it should be aloud, and ONLY in certain areas." I can't believe you justify this shit! You need to quit your job and go work on a sein trawler, b/c the oceans are just teaming with fish right now! In the future, when salmon and trout populations have been nearly extirpated due in part to that mentality, my hope is that the law can cut off one of the hands that you use to snag your fish. They can't use their mouths for physiological reasons, then we'll remove one of your hands and let you snag all you want. You have no respect for the process, and no respect for the fish, which means you should have to give something back for such a narrow, idiotic mentality. Oh, and I'm sure it's not just salmon you're ripping. Browns and steelies are probably getting the old 1-2-PULL from you as well. Die off.

[@kenrowe7594]

Donald Austin HAHAHAHA you got really mad and called me a mo-mo! I dont know what that is but it sure sounds funny, and it really helped out around here to call me names and say that stuff. You sure dazzled me with all your hopes and desires of cutting off one hand letting me try to snag a salmon! Tell me, are you a vegetarian? you ever seen what they do to all those higher form animals you meat eaters eat? You think snagging fish from a river is even remotely that bad? You need to go find a big ol bong, and take a big ol hit, and find a tree to hug.

[@adamg5829]

I can understand snag fishing once a salmon's life is used up. In one sentence i hate the idea, but if they're going to die off anyway then whats the harm in catching some for food? But thats where it ends for me, if you're there for the "sport" of snag fishing then you're missing a major piece of what makes fishing fun. I can't respect people who snag fish for sport, even if the fish will die soon, its just a lousy way to say you caught a fish. If you want to get a meal out of it well i can at least understand that, i don't like it but i can understand. If i catch a fish from a foul hook, i don't count it as a catch and i won't keep it. Its illegal to keep a foul hooked Steelhead in PA unless they are locked into a creek/river and are going to die anyway, thats the only exception PA will make to the rule and i'm glad they have it that way. Now i'd imagine these fish are nearing their deaths, but for goodness sake keep the fucking things, the least you can do with it after damaging it with an intentional foul hook is kill it and eat it or feed it to your pets or something.

[@dondre3000]

Word.

[@alexreid6536]

Your an i**** and clearly don't fish, they all bite in rivers still if not more yes they lose there stomachs im freshwater water but bite your bait out or protective instincts you just suck at fishing if you can't catch them without snagging. Your what's wrong with the world

[@jarradt08thomasmlg20]

I would to thank Karen for filming this great little fishing video.

[@AN-jz3px]

I think the Camera guy was a Male.

[@dwnthere1]

Desperate Trumpers. Yah great again.

[@shelltonhall2214]

Snagging is fun its legal when there spawning here in Montana

[@fishman9682]

Me and my friends go steel head fishing and when we saw some one snagging we would snag their line and cut it

[@dondre3000]

I've seen people walk into the middle of a stream while a snaghole is fighting a fish and take their cigar or cigarette and singe their line. It's such a moment of relief. The old mentality was, "what's the problem with snagging, everybody does it," but it's change more and more to, "If I see somebody snagging fish, I'm gonna put down this rod and get weird on them." It's changed a lot in 30 years, which is awesome, but there are still leeches and maggots roaming the banks who've never been taught to respect the spawn process. My old man told me this about snagging, "if you can't get 'em to bite, then you haven't earned the fight." A-f*ckin-men.

[@fishman9682]

Donald Austin Thankyou, Your father knew what he was talking about

[@fishman9682]

***** That's cute, so what your saying is that you aint a true fisherman, and you like to act tough on a computer and swear in every sentence.

[@fishman9682]

That's cool friend I really don't care about how you know how to speak and make yourself look like a important person cause you can give people English lessons because here know one gives a shit about it.

[@fishman9682]

I have a feeling you have not taken your meds today cause you are pretty fucking weird so take the pills and go to bed

[@duckwacker8720]

Why in the fuck are people fishing for boots? At best you're catching dog food.

[@westernnyfishing1253]

Ok just to clear everything up for everyone being ignorant this is very illegal I fish here all the time and this kind of stuff ruins it for the people that are doing things legally it's not very hard to get a salmon to bite you just need to do a little research and apply while out on the stream the dec around here take it very seriously for a good reason

[@paulstubbings645]

All these salmon die after spawning, and most if not all are stocked.

[@fukkdasystemxd3759]

Real fishermen snag fish too!

[@masonpearson2867]

No, dummies sitting either in a jail cell or with a hefty fine are snaggers not fisherman

[@tgyff9045]

I didn't know white people snag fish

[@ampking78]

😂😂😂

[@Flyrodder68]

animals

[@TheADDFiles-yk4dc]

Snagging is for losers.

[@masonpearson2867]

This is a piss poor illegal way to catch fish. This is pathetic and ugly

[@davidgribble263]

I'm a huge sportsmen and all of mankind is ugly !!!! All of us !!!!!

[@billorights7486]

snaging is for people that can't fish. and why keep dark fish.

[@scoutrecon78]

They snag because the fish are at the end of their life cycle after spawning. and the salmon are dark because of the river.

[@robertstreams4362]

They are dark because they are literally slowly decaying...its part of the salmon life cycle...they spawn and die...has nothing to do with the water

[@linusfzj80]

Snagging is a pathetic way to play fish, that's just a forgone conclusion nowadays with our rocket science rods, mil spec reels, and fluorocarbon lines - let alone barbs on hooks. The real knobs in the video are the guys 40' up the opposite bank who are fishing - what do they think is going to happen once a fish runs over their lines? Despite fish snagging being an acceptable thing once when I was a lot younger, I love how my local hole that makes kings accessible to the average person - the regulars will run you out if you snag & try to keep it, the verbal assault will leave you pushed to the edge of the hole & even then you'll be lucky if you ever come back and not hazed again. Buying a fishing license doesn't give you a right to reap fish by all means available - 99% of locals here fish that way & you're fooling yourself if you think you won't get dimed out when the DFW guy rolls through.

[@drvonnostrum2671]

I mean, what is more pathetic than snaggers????

[@drvonnostrum2671]

@@BIGGSIPP01 these arent alaskan subsistence fishermen, just new york plugs who cant fish.

[@christopwater]

I didn't know white people snag fish