Sam Smith Is The Devil

I could've also included my Balenciaga video since Unholy references the company, or my Hogwarts Indie-Fensible when JK Rowling came up, or any of my watch party vids at the beginning, or...
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#SamSmith #Unholy #grammys

[@olympusgolemoflight7198]

I think Freedom Toons had the best take. He just had Sam as a sad, attention seeking man with nothing else going for him.

[@Ryuouken]

It was very good :)

[@davidtarushka9749]

A sad, attention seeking ham*

[@numbers4851]

@@davidtarushka9749 lmao

[@viscountrainbows2857]

I remember hearing about his "suffering" during the peak of the pandemic. First question I had: "Whodafuq are you?" Second question I had: "Why the feck should I care??" And yeah I can honestly say I have heard like, zero of his songs and if I accidentally did, my brain threw it in the trash.

[@conserva-chan2735]

Him being depicted as a hobo running around in a devil suit and harassing random people made my day

[@deathbysloth]

Modern Leftism needs to come to terms with the fact that a culture cannot simultaneously be a subculture, a counter-culture, *and* the dominant culture at the same time.

[@glanni]

This is one of the best sentences I've read in a while!

[@FourOf92000]

let me tell you about this concept called "perpetual revolution" deranged, yes, but they've given it a shot before

[@Eirik_Bloodaxe]

@@FourOf92000 my favorite part of perpetual revolution is that you apparently can’t even have an idea of where you want it to go, or you’re status quo. So it’s endless revolution for revolution’s sake with no end goal.

[@tombadil64]

Well put!

[@dannyknightblade4592]

That is so true.

[@Noperare]

"Satanic is the norm and christian is edgy" I mean, Marylin Manson became christian like 2 years ago. This tells everything you need to know.

[@stevejones69420]

"Screw you mom I'm going to church this Sunday and there's nothing you can do about it"

[@-Zakhiel-]

He was always a christian, wasn't he? I clearly remember interviews of him in the late 90s where he explicitly said that he considered himself as a better christian than most people in the US.

[@priapulida]

@@-Zakhiel- also sounds gnostic

[@NoahBodze]

He always was. Satanism is an Abrahamic faith. It can’t not be. It’s like when the fascists fight the communists thinking their world views are different when they’re both in worship of the same system and the struggle, really, is for who is in charge of the system, not changing the system itself.

[@navertnavert2623]

@@stevejones69420 NO SON OF MINE WILL EVER ENTER THE HOUSE OF GOD! GO TO YOUR ROOM AND RECITE THE 49 GENDERS!

[@Sketch_XR]

I'm Christian, always have been, and could probably qualify as a rightoid. But I vividly remember being in highschool during the early 2010s and being friends with all those edgy atheists making "Christianity bad, lol I'm so edgy" jokes. And my response is the same today as it was a decade ago: "Cool, now do Islam."

[@OniGanon]

20 years ago atheists wouldn't have had a problem doing that. What a disappointment the past 10 years have been.

[@nathanjora7627]

@@OniGanon To be fair most atheists even right now wouldn’t have an issue with that, not even a lot of the progressive ones.

[@necrosteel5013]

I would enjoy more mockery for the Islamists, they certainly earned it.

[@thecompareablezombie]

How about making jokes that involve the rest of the religions as well. I'd love to see how the jokes would be told.

[@priapulida]

@@thecompareablezombie a sheher, a hehim and a theythem walk into a bar...

[@Psykomancer]

The alphabet activists don't seem to realize that becoming accepted also means becoming trivial. You can't both be "just a regular person" and still stand out in a crowd.

[@hope-cat4894]

It's like when they call Pride Parades a protest when there are balloons and people dancing around.

[@LEARSIKCIGAM]

+1

[@LetholdusKaspyr]

@@hope-cat4894 And children surrounded by giant rubber dongs.

[@deliverus6856]

@@LetholdusKaspyr don’t forget the grown men twerking, having unprotected pozzed sex, and being erect naked around an “all ages event” I wonder if there’s a statistic for the amount of kids assaulted at these events? Or just people in general

[@CoryTheRaven]

@@hope-cat4894 hey, it's just a radical counter-culture protest that happens to be supported by government, banks, media, and every other corporation!

[@acidpain6059]

The problem with Sam Smith is that he’s not nearly as attractive as he wants to force us to believe he is

[@SergioLeonardoCornejo]

Or as stylish as he's convinced he is.

[@flazzorb]

It's kinda pushed so far that now it's comedy though.

[@houseofhas9355]

When your built like a fat plumber, you can't really pull off the " I'm the devil's demon", You can't. We already know fast food already owns your soul. Fat white male lizzo is doing anything & everything to get attention

[@npcimknot958]

basically. perfect suckered to paying alot for terrible fashion

[@migarsormrapophis2755]

The main problem with Sam Smith is that his music is shit. If I want a devil in my music, I'll take Blue Stahli all day, thank you very much.

[@Luke7169]

No one would take the devil seriously if he looked like Sam Smith

[@AtrusOranis]

I recall CS Lewis saying as much in one of the Screwtape letters.

[@inquisitionagent9052]

Sam Smith appears in front of Adam: yes my boy. Eat the apple! Adam: b*tch tf? Eve: ew get tf away.

[@balasaashti3146]

Imagine going to the cross roads to sell your soul and he pops up. LOL

[@bevegan1887]

Some of your mass shooters are skinny nerds. Never Underestimate anyone. Your Life can be taken by a 120 pound nerd boy.

[@inquisitionagent9052]

@@bevegan1887 everyone can act tough with a gun. Nobody's afraid of the pathetic 120lbs loser. They're afraid of the piece on him. Take his iron off him and see how fast he gets jumped by everyone in the crowd

[@hope-cat4894]

I remember the days when making gay men stereotypically effeminate was seen as homophobic and now portraying them as regular dudes is making them "straight acting." 😑

[@priapulida]

they're also more woman than real women because only the performative is real

[@hope-cat4894]

@Pria Pulida Calling a gay man a woman used to be an insult too. This all sometimes feels like a long con reverse psychology gambit to trick the community into mocking themselves. Like Daffy Duck saying, "Duck Season, fire!" 😵‍💫

[@akas1255]

Misogynist: Women have to wash the dishes Feminist: Men have to wash the dishes Egalitarian: Anyone who wants can wash the dishes Gender Theory: Anyone who washes the dishes is a woman.

[@Usammityduzntafraidofanythin]

That's idpol for yah

[@hurricanefury439]

i hate that change that would be like portraying a black person with a minstrel show and trying to say that it's empowering

[@sadboi714]

Yesterday's edgy is today's cliché.

[@philagelio336]

At this point I’m more amazed and blown away at a flower blooming every spring than anything progressive avant-garde “artists” churns out.

[@TheGreenKnight500]

A flower blooming is a beautiful thing because it exists in accordance with nature. Progressive art is anti-nature, therefore it's ugly.

[@cerdic6305]

'Progressive', sure in the political sense, but Sam Smith and every other artist in the charts can't be called 'avant-garde'

[@NoahBodze]

They’re just rehashing Dada, which was a completely parasitic movement itself.

[@andrewmaximo4485]

I don't think there's anything avant garde about "look what you made me do; I met somebody new; ooo baby baby I'm dancing with a stranger." Not in a world where Bjork and Several Species of Small Furry Animals Gathered in a Cave and Grooving with a Pict exist.

[@Zeburaman2005]

One thing that you can bet good money on is that anyone who calls themselves “an artist” is actually a supremely arrogant two bit scammer that’s just rehashing someone else’s work.

[@Y00bi]

The main difference between Sam Smith and David Bowie is that David Bowie made good music.

[@ThinWhiteAxe]

And he was actually taking a career risk by presenting the way he did back in the 70s. edit: and he was actually hot 🤣

[@Yojimbo16]

and Bowie has a Cult Classic movie.

[@Touma134]

There is not grace anymore to it. It's degenerate and trashy for the sake of it. Bowie had the theatrics and the charisma that was actually charisma not this loud and shameless=charisma thing going on now. There was a certain presentation that even when it's in your face there's a sense of it coming natural.

[@luke_cohen1]

I’m usually a fan of promoting newer music over older stuff but you do have a point here. David Bowie was making social commentary with his output and presentation. Sam Smith, on the other hand, only cares about being a shallow and selfish jackass who catchy=good.

[@quedtion_marks_kirby_modding]

"Society isn't used to males dressing up like that". Trap porn being as normalise as it has ever been:

[@johnduquette7023]

Traps tend to have better taste

[@cdubsb3831]

Society isnt used to fat males dressing like that.

[@bannedmann4469]

To be a trap, you have to look good. They probably didn't even notice.

[@bensspaceagency4606]

At least the femboys and traps are cute...

[@dix0n778]

I mean even Contrapoints slays the female look.

[@FreakazoidRobots]

Yeah, this is me in a nutshell. I laughed at the religious right in 90's saying "this will never happen," and now I'm like, "oh crap, it actually happened." Look, you'll never hear me criticize someone for what they do in their own bedroom with a consenting adult, but being publicly proud of your own degeneracy is just silly and dumb. It's fair game to ridicule and mock those people.

[@filthy_peasant_the_one2134]

It’s hard telling everyone “we told you” every day…

[@Touma134]

For once you didn't take that step off the cliff like most people that start with "the religious right was right on x subject". Good to see, keep your head on your shoulders and don't succumb to dogmatism.

[@Foremarkex]

They're all just trying to recapture Freddy Mercury and falling short.

[@TheGreenKnight500]

They wish they could be Freddie Mercury or David Bowie 😏

[@Armameteus]

@@TheGreenKnight500 The difference between Freddie and Bowie and these modern-day posers is that Freddie and Bowie were just doing things they thought were interesting or fun. Freddie famously said he didn't care what people did with his music; just make sure it's interesting. He just wanted to have fun and do weird/cool stuff, just like Bowie. Bowie was always about trying to find ways to express his inner thoughts and experience new, interesting things even outside of music (like acting in movies or doing voiceover work in video games, for example). Sam Smith and other such Hollywood losers are just trying to be edgy and bombastic for the sake of garnering attention to themselves. They're blatant narcissists just looking to get their egos stroked, with nothing of substance to offer. Nothing but pretentious, self-righteous, entitled snobs, the lot of them.

[@funkyweapon1981]

@@TheGreenKnight500 Sad how Freddie Mercury and Bowie are dead, but this turd's still alive.

[@rando5673]

Sam Smith is the physical embodiment of replacing personality with identity

[@FourOf92000]

I'm stealing that line

[@yungkkangpae4482]

The biggest difference between the provocative styles of David Bowie and Sam Smith can be summed up in one word: Self-respect

[@ThinWhiteAxe]

Hell yes

[@kylevernon]

It’s pretty pathetic that even the most shocking things are just recycled. I think Hollywood ran out of ideas. He should do a concert in SS attire if he really want to be shocking. It fits his initials.

[@MrSTVR]

The initials are right there in the name. It would be a slam dunk.

[@andrewmaximo4485]

We need Johnny Carson now more than ever. He was always able to reel in egotistical celebs and make them....somewhat relatable.

[@blazingsonic]

This explains the overuse of reboots and today's music lacking in creativity.

[@DG-mk7kd]

Even that is old hat. National socialists were the subject of ridicule for decades. Before the term became trite and overcharged.

[@Lonovavir]

As a grandson of GIs I endorse this idea. He can also sing an updated rap version of Funkerlied.

[@draketheduelist]

Never mind that _actual_ Christians know that Satan is supposed to be alluring, beautiful, and draped in the appearance of holiness until the facade cracks. Any "Satan" imagery out there that _tries_ to look evil misses the point harder than Neon Genesis Evangelion. So Sam Smith can either screw off or make with the giant robots.

[@DrakusLuthos]

Just curious, how did NGE miss the point?

[@vaclavjebavy5118]

yeah I wanna know how NGE misses the point

[@nunyabizness6687]

NGE loosely used the Dead Sea scrolls and Gnosticism for angel lore and threw in the Christian imagery because it looked cool. That's the only reason the angels explode into crosses. For the aesthetic.

[@delfinenteddyson9865]

.

[@DrakusLuthos]

@@nunyabizness6687 Yeah, that’s pretty stupid.

[@TheARMichJFrog]

"LGBT culture is homophobic." Spot on Dev.

[@vistagreat9994]

Its gotta change!

[@MrBuns-yi2hk]

I feel that.

[@Emppu_T.]

Ligbutts destroy it whole Just like feminism does women

[@derekb4977]

@@vistagreat9994 LGB Alliance is the future we need

[@quemepartaunrayoiyo]

Also biphobic

[@SurrealKeenan]

Man, I hate when people pretend like these massive culture battles haven't been fought and act like everyone's just OK with how things are right now so they can pretend that this new outrage is completely unreasonable and dishonest

[@Sines314]

I'm still amazed when they act like female action heroes never existed. As though Sarah Connor and Ellen Ripley never existed as great action heroes, in the same era as the traditional big muscly action hero men. Heck, right along side of them, for Sarah Connor. And don't get me started on these people never having watched Rocky Horror Picture Show.

[@wumpusrat]

@@Sines314 It's because they want to claim to be "the first to do X". They imagine themselves as "the front line on the culture war" and other such nonsense, constantly claiming that everything that comes out is "the first X in Y!" and such. I mean, Disney literally had like "the first openly gay character in a Disney movie!" in 5-6 movies in a row. And the progs just lapped it up and cheered. They claimed Captain Marvel was "the first female-led superhero movie" despite Wonder Woman having just come out the year before (not to mention all the others before that). It's a form of narcissism, which is glamorized by social media. "Look at me, look at me, LOOK AT ME YOU BIGOT!"

[@Voltricity435]

@@Sines314 "male gamers don't like playing as female protagonist!!!!!!!!!!" _me thinking of how beloved samus is and always has been_

[@arcuscotangens]

I now know more about worthless celebrities than I ever wanted to.

[@viscountrainbows2857]

Now I understand how older people feel about media we were consuming even in the 90s/2000s. Just a neverending series of pointless hacks' names plastered into our eyeballs, and we can do naught but dick to change the tide. Everything getting more bloated and convoluted, our childhoods wasting away in reboots, rehashing, "reimaginings", and bad sequels. And I'm only 30!

[@Armameteus]

If only modern societies treated celebrities the same way the Romans did: on the same level as prostitutes and beggars. They were (and always have been) societal parasites and wastrels selling themselves like chattel for cheap, transient entertainment. Absolute scum.

[@basedfemboi9401]

@@viscountrainbows2857 I'm only 20 and feel like that everything is so fking boring now

[@Ranatosk]

“They told me Satan would be attractive.” -Ned Flanders

[@jalvorson]

I'm not a very religious guy, but the Sam Smith clips made me glance at my *IN CASE OF HELL INVASION: BREAK GLASS* holy water flask i have on my shelf.

[@yvanthedrakon]

My brother...there is no time for holy water...it is time for a Holy Crusade. Deus lo Vult

[@inquisitionagent9052]

Loads BFG9000 with religious intent

[@funkyweapon1981]

@@inquisitionagent9052 Rip and tear until it is done!

[@tomn8932]

The most offensive thing about the "Unholy" performance is that its a song that endorses cheating on your married partner.

[@OfficialToxicCat]

He's also ironically dressed like one of the characters from that new show on Prime Video Hazbin Hotel who's a pimp. And I'm pretty sure he domestically abuses one of the main characters.

[@StickmanLLC1]

JLongbone's video on Sam Smith was hilarious. The Morgan Freeman AI voice fucking got me.

[@vla1ne]

Looking that up now. Haven't seen jlongbone in a bit and that sounds absolutely hilarious. Edit: yeah, anyone who hasnt seen that video, go watch that video. Never have i heard a man described as "a mayonnaise jar in the shape of a lunch lady"

[@StickmanLLC1]

@@vla1ne "thirty didnt almost get you, it got you, beat you over with a phone book." looool

[@laborinquena9823]

Pudgy piss drinker

[@whitemagus2000]

Ironic that C.S.Lewis himself portrayed Satan far more politically correct and anti-christian than actually demonic. Just like Sam Smith.

[@Transhumanist_Adam]

If we’re approaching “the rightoids fever dream”. Then perhaps this dream is not so feverish?

[@darthgrouch4610]

Damn, couldn't have put it better myself

[@KingRyanoles]

While I agree displays like Sam's are mostly just edge lord cringe, James Lindsay makes a pretty compelling case that the underlying philosophy of the left has been deeply influenced by or is in fact just a transformation of gnosticism and hermeticism. There is also Jordan Peterson's point that many leftists have the personality disposition of just being mad at God for the Crime of Being. It's no wonder many if them identify with satan, at least aesthetically if not explicitly in the gnostic heresy sense.

[@NoahBodze]

You and James think far too deeply about a shallow and transactional group. The left don’t have politics or religion beyond their spite for the ordinary that casts them outside the center of attention. They have Cluster B personality disorders, nothing more, and to signify them as anything more is entirely misunderstanding them.

[@bannedmann4469]

I've heard that and he's overthinking it. No one owns nihilism and nihilistic thoughts. Hate and spite for existence comes in many forms. I've othen thought that about Buddhism on trying to become enlightened, and escaping reincarnation. But I wouldn't attribute any of that to these people.

[@KyriosHeptagrammaton]

Aren't gnostics anti-sex though? Because that makes more human....oh we have birth control.

[@mattd5240]

@@KyriosHeptagrammaton That's anti natalists.

[@KyriosHeptagrammaton]

@@mattd5240 From what I remember Gnostics believe earth is a trap made by the devil. to fall for earthly pleasures is to fall for that trap. To have children is to bring them into the devil's world.

[@neonreagan6023]

I mostly laugh because while people scream "muh moral panic" and the "religious right bad" the religious right keep getting proven right about most of what they were saying.

[@Joural0401]

"why is the right wing calling this guy openly glorifying satan a satanist"

[@TchHry]

Yup, the disgusting thing though is: all that will be remembered is "muh moral panic" No matter how right, history will be rewritten by the Left.

[@juanmejiagomez5514]

@@Swedishmafia101MemeCorporation Same

[@markzuckergecko621]

Yea and they're probably just being provocative on purpose to try and get a response from the religious right, but whether it's that or them genuinely worshipping Satan, they're proving the religious right's point.

[@borkovitch5227]

They got everything right is the definition of survival-ship bias/confirmation bias. You only focus on the things they get right and forget about all the things they get wrong.

[@ryansmith841]

To be honest I haven't seen all that much outrage from rightoids on this. I think even they see this as tired outrage baiting.

[@harleymitchelly5542]

At the same time... I can definitely picture the screeching in my mind, and it's not like there hasn't been rightoid screeching over similar stuff in the past. (Looks over at Connor from the Lotus Eaters.) Speaking in the general sense of planning a course of action, there really does need to be a rebuttal to the degenerate-screechers that classical liberalism doesn't need nor want to sign onto this, and yes, it's entirely possible that you can have a push for gay rights that got subverted later on where that subversion is the core issue. It could just be me, but SFO's one of the few video essayist types sticking hard on that and it's a sentiment worth echoing.

[@Zayindjejfj]

I genuinely saw it. Was mildly annoyed. Rolled my eyes. And forgot about this guy. I'm more annoyed that people occasionally bring any of these losers up. It feels like I'm being robbed of my own attention span. THAT bothers me more at this point.

[@ComicGladiator]

I'm pretty sure the Devil finds Sam Smith to be an embarrassing LOLcow, much like the rest of us do.

[@Lonovavir]

Satan has distanced himself from Sam Smith and said he's too cringe/evil for hell.

[@Zed012]

I heard Lucifer call Sam a try-hard

[@asitallfallsdown5914]

Whether or not you believe he exists, yes, he revels in this behavior. It's literally his shtick, anything for moral decay.

[@priapulida]

He's on one of Satan's private Pinterest boards

[@lainiwakura1776]

@@asitallfallsdown5914 The most harmful thing you can do to Sam Smith is say "okay," shrug, and walk away.

[@conserva-chan2735]

And the award for lowest effort troll goes to...

[@MrLolguy93]

The 70s called. They want their edge back

[@funkyweapon1981]

80's.

[@ThinWhiteAxe]

​@@funkyweapon1981 Bowie wore a dress on the cover of _The Man Who Sold The World_ in 1970

[@lukascoleman2328]

Dev, could you do a video on this whole FBI declaring Catholics criminals or whatever? There's definitely potential here.

[@Jogeta5]

Sam Smith is only 30? WTF!? I thought he was in his mid-40s.

[@Dogapillar4Lyfe]

Just starting the Video and I'm jsut going to say: Sam Smith is not the devil he's just trying so hard SO HARD to remain relevant and famous.

[@rwberger6]

They all are. Popularity of celebrities and award shows have dropped off hard over the past half decade and they're all just desperate for the last scraps of relevancy.

[@Dogapillar4Lyfe]

@rberg word. I'm just saying this is his tactic and it's pathetic.

[@keithfilibeck2390]

Their opposition to all things good and wholesome as a fundamental aspect of their nature/ideology, actually makes them more in line with Anti-God ideals than if they were Satanists, so in a way, the "satanic panic" is spot on, not so much with them flaunting pop-culture themed satanic imagery, but their rejection of anything even remotely good, their embrace of degeneracy, they've walked themselves into being Anti-Christian through irony.

[@priapulida]

for some of them it's not irony, and it's best explained through a gnostic theology

[@TimeyWimey573]

I've recently come to the belief that there are two kinds of Atheists. There are those who don't believe in G-d, and there are those who believe there is no G-d. Sam Smith and the other Hollywood degenerates are the latter, and so actively do everything they can to spit in the face of everyone else(including those without belief). I will never understand why people would want to identify with Satan, even if they don't believe in him. He is the concept of pure evil, no different than Voldemort or Palpatine in fiction. Identifying with the concept of evil like that should disturb people of faith and Atheists alike.

[@priapulida]

@@TimeyWimey573 a gnostic theology explains that kind of behaviour pretty good.

[@kingingrey1882]

At least the Gnostics had cool lore dlc for the Bible, I can’t think of a single thing progressives make that I’d call good, let alone call it anything remotely related to cool. It’s like they have the same aversion to “rule of cool” as they have with Christianity

[@psychegoddessoflight9358]

Gnosticism was falsely conflated with worship of the dark/negative polarity deities and with moral relativism _by the early Church,_ because they sought a more patriarchal worldly system (via religion), which opposes Gnostic cosmology (with Sophia as Prime Creator). Same as people trying to cast aspersions on "as above, so below" when that's simply another way of saying "On Earth as it is in Heaven." ☯️ aka Supersymmetry. Gnosticism also allows for *all* religions & mythologies to be understood as (more or less) valid, and that's been too plentiful a source of conflict for those who have more to gain from fostering confusion & strife. It also makes Christian theology far more logical (Jesus' spiritual/eternal Mother= [the Holy] Spirit, aka Yahweh's wife Asherah). The second greatest trick the devil ever played was getting followers of Christ to deny His divine Mother. Sophia= wisdom; gnosis= knowing. They got people to fear the knowledge that would lead them to salvation when faith alone wasn't cutting it ("my children perish from lack of knowledge").

[@dirt_dert_durt]

As the saying goes, the devil is attractive. Therefore no, Sam Smith cannot be the devil

[@ZontarDow]

Dev goal: cite 12 previous videos in one

[@TheGreenKnight500]

A NEW RECORD!

[@Kdub09swm]

Ozzy Osbourne was way more edgey than sam could ever wish to be.

[@davidfoord3164]

Heck, KISS was more edgy.....they had a literal Blood dripping, Fire breathing Demon on stage. And if i wint to watch a gay guy in leather in stage, I'll watch my old Judas Priest videos. All of this has been done before and better.

[@Hynotama]

Man, I’m sure there were crazies in the 90s too, but the world was more mentally stable, I’m certain of it. Maybe the internet had something to do with it.

[@elusivemayfly7534]

100 percent. I think we are in a live experiment and showing side effects

[@ImTakingYouToFlavorTown]

My theory is that the internet has disconnected people from reality, and that isn't a hot take, but also it has let people fall down insanity spirals. There was a time when furries set messages by mail or they had to actually meet up in person. Now you can find a million images that get more and more depraved over time and you don't even notice how quickly you've gone from weird but relatively normal to hypervore inflation and you are also in an echo chamber where everyone doesn't see it as weird either.

[@bannedmann4469]

Marxists hadn't built their power bases yet.

[@samsalamander8147]

First time I got on the internet was in 92 I played monopoly it took forever I owned my first computer in 95 had AOL played Computer games talked in chat rooms. It was just as crazy in the 90s people were just as nuts.

[@hope-cat4894]

@i'm taking you to flavor town Academy of Ideas had a video about how society is operating at a schizophrenic state because we are extremely disconnected from reality while spending all our time in a virtual world with less human connections to tie us down.

[@hideousruin]

I always figured The Devil would be in shape.

[@Filthy_Freeaboo]

I always saw satan as mildly muscular and having very defined features but in a very sickly, off putting, starving sort of way.

[@JL-jy4zo]

My gripe: Marilyn Manson wasn't overtly sexual like that nip tassel video, nor was MM as mainstream/normie friendly. My distinction is when its overtly sexual like WAP/M. Cyrus etc and it's celebrated by the mainstream. I don't think MM was ever celebrated on morning news shows. This Satan one is pretty played out fr.

[@TheGreenKnight500]

That's the thing, right? I can appreciate edginess, but when it's mainstream, it's just cringy. When you combine it with all the weird crap going on in Hollywood and among politicians and billionaires, you start to wonder if they're not actually "just being edgy". If your friend were to constantly make edgy N@zi jokes, and start implying their views were correct, eventually you'd have to start wondering if he's not actually joking. That's how it is with modern Hollywood. (avoiding KZbin censorship)

[@waterywatery]

You'd never catch GG Allin at the Grammys

[@harleymitchelly5542]

@@waterywatery Now now... Him going on the Grammys to dump a bucket of his own sewer contributions on them before flipping them all off and THEN leaving is something I could see.

[@funkyweapon1981]

@@harleymitchelly5542 That would've been tits, dude!

[@alipennington3764]

Marilyn Manson was incredibly overtly sexual during his live performances?? Especially on tour.

[@SouthernGothicYT]

While I have a love for the shock performer, it's both funny and sad that entertainment has shifted in this direction. People _really_ raised hell when Bowie or Manson dressed up crazy on stage, nowadays we're just making jokes about it. The indifference/offended divide in reactions is just funny imo

[@Snp2024]

Yeah reminds me how many people only realised that Oscars were going on when will smith slapped Chris Rock . Grammy probably trying to hold on little relevancy that is left.

[@nova_supreme8390]

Way back David Bowie and others exposed the fragile sensibilities of people in his time. Nowadays it only exposes the fragility of the performers themselves.

[@shawklan27]

@@Snp2024 exactly

[@aldiascholarofthefirstsin1051]

@@nova_supreme8390 Yap

[@WhoBlah21]

Sometimes I like to wonder how would a timeline where musicians like Wesley Willis, GG Allin, Darby Crash, and Wendy O Williams are either still alive or were born a bit later.

[@aboi7554]

As a Satanic performance, I’d give it a 5/10. Despite having the aesthetics, the sound of the song doesn’t have any vile or evil punch. Rather, it sounds sterile. Like most of modern popular music, it just blends together.

[@shapshooter7769]

Yeah, if I wanted Satanic it would need both orchestral and metal arrangements together. This really is sterile.

[@NitroNinja324]

I actually like the bass of the song. Feels really punchy and mean. Classic case of the song being fine, but the lyrics, artist, performance, and message being shit.

[@chrishenniker5944]

@@shapshooter7769orchestral or exotica, a la Combustible Edison, would be preferred. Anton La Vey said that heavy metal was inherently Christian. Maybe some industrial akin to the Electric Hellfire Club or Whitehouse would work better.

[@deutschesvaterlandfankanal]

​@@shapshooter7769Underground Black Metal

[@darkmega97]

He's not the devil, just a bag of unending cringe

[@bevegan1887]

I rather be cringe with alot of money than someone like you who's broke and can barely pay bills 😆 🤣. Sam Smith is winning and your not.

[@darkmega97]

@@bevegan1887 k

[@connorohare229]

There is nothing more convincing to my reconversion back to Christianity than learning that unironic evil is real. Thank God literally

[@kingingrey1882]

I got that reality check when I found out about the guy that killed his family over a camgirl. Lust do be a deadly sin

[@toddpacker4683]

Oh settle down you embarrassing retard

[@Sines314]

@@ShowerCurtain1 I do wish there was a word for what I call "Something like religion". Ideologies that take the place of religion.

[@aldiascholarofthefirstsin1051]

You don't need to believe in Christianity to see how this is all bullshit.

[@totallynotfake1878]

@@kingingrey1882 yeah, that one was bizarre. fellow JCS enjoyer?

[@mirceazaharia2094]

>weird inflatable pantaloon man is the Devil Sure, why not? He might as well be the Devil.

[@SergioLeonardoCornejo]

Nay. The devil is supposed to be alluring. Sam Smith is the living embodiment of poor taste, an avatar to a god of ugly things.

[@Snp2024]

He is just pathetic bro is attention whore not more

[@jeremytitus9519]

Someone’s gotta be

[@bluecoin3771]

He made Satanism uncool if it wasn’t already.

[@mrZavior]

Small correction: David Bowie did that shit IN THE 70s!! Shortly after it was decriminalized in the UK...

[@MA-go7ee]

David Bowie (among about a dozen glam rocks acts) did it in the 70s not even the 80s

[@MillywiggZ]

The only time I heard of Sam Smith was robbing ‘Radiohead’ of being the theme song for the James Bond film ‘Specture’.

[@MaxwellAerialPhotography]

That was an awful bond film and an even worse main theme.

[@shawklan27]

Whenever I hear that tone I just can't help but make fun of it because of how trash it is.

[@NoahBodze]

The Radiohead version was better. More haunting, but very Bond, surprisingly.

[@bannedmann4469]

@@Swedishmafia101MemeCorporation The whole era sucks. He doesn't like being Bond and it shows. Way too melodramatic for a masculine archetype.

[@migarsormrapophis2755]

That feel when Jack Chick was right That one hit me so hard I got whiplash

[@TheGreenKnight500]

You know, sometimes I feel like people create the monster they fear. The satanic panic summoned the actual devil and the progressive left is creating a bunch of actual bigots. If your boogieman isn't there, you have to call him forth. When you design your ideology around antagonism, you have to create your enemy to justify your existence.

[@retr0836]

Imagine praising promiscuity and shaming traditionalism.

[@SubtleStair]

No need to imagine that in 2023!

[@TheRealW.S.Foster]

Have people forgotten about The Rocky Horror Picture Show? Dr. Frank-n-Furter is the first person that comes to mind when I think of men in lingerie & shit. I wouldn't be surprised if that character preceded Bowie regarding that topic if I went and did a quick Google search.

[@Voltroc]

There's a difference between forgetting and the newest loud generation never being exposed to actual history. They don't take time to actually learn about anything anymore and just spout whatever gets them likes in the vicious cycle that is social media.

[@helenamccarthy6174]

I had a 6ft transmission in a skirt tell me that Rocky Horror is 'problematic' and "just gives cis white men an excuse to wear lingerie without people making fun of them".

[@Snp2024]

@@helenamccarthy6174 you can't win with these idiots. They're offended no matter what

[@SkidMan_Jurej]

@@Voltroc there's that phrase coming to mind again: Those that fail to learn from history are doomed to repeat it

[@helenamccarthy6174]

@@Snp2024 This was all the way back in, oh 2010/2011 too so I've been directly dealing with this shit for AGES. I was late to work a lot around that same time because the local university students blocked the freeway every day to "advocate for black only dorms" lol.

[@knottheory79220]

I liked the Freedom Toons take... Sam Smith in a devil costume screaming "Pay attention to me!"

[@johngavin3180]

My favorite part of that clip of the grammy performance was "SPONSORED BY PFIZER" at the end. Gotta love the good ole corpos needing their pound of flesh.

[@that_odd_guy]

They already got their pound and then some when the media convinced every normie that they'll kick the bucket unless they get 10,000 taxpayer funded jabs of the ol needle.

[@johnseppethe2nd2]

I think its ok that people are "clutching their pearls". Lets be clear, if there aren't people who gatekeep this kind of thing then standards will contribute to drop.

[@inquisitionagent9052]

Omg! You just shanked that person! Purely for the joy of hearing them scream? Wtf is your problem? "Ugh. You're such a boring pearl cluther bro."

[@johnseppethe2nd2]

@@inquisitionagent9052 Usually its not as extreme as that but your point is true

[@inquisitionagent9052]

@@johnseppethe2nd2 ik. Hyperbole is funny and all that. But then again, a lot of what's happening today would be considered "extreme hyperbole" back in the day. I for one can totally see this happening in the future. People trying to normalize cutting/torture as some kinda "kink".

[@robertortiz-wilson1588]

Agreed.

[@walter1383]

@@inquisitionagent9052 That's already on its way in. For example, Machine Gun Kelly and Megan Fox drinking each other's blood as a part of a their 'religious beliefs'. It's a sick and twisted world and the sooner Jesus comes back with fire and sword, the better.

[@AntonioCunningham]

Funny how all these atheist ignore what Christians and other reasonable people tried to warn them about. Don't expect people you've been dicks to come to your aid when things go south.

[@davidfrancisco3502]

Dev and Raging Golden Eagle are disgrunted leftists who were left behind by their degenerate NWO cult but they refuse to wake up and accept everything they believe is a lie and the people they were told to hate were right all along.

[@nathanjora7627]

Well, the issue (as always) was that the Christians of the time weren’t being reasonable. For example the christian author of comics that dev talks about literally decried CS Lewis, one of the most popularly celebrated Christian thinkers of the 20th century (I say « popularly » in reference to him being very famous and cited in popular level apologetic circles, not in the sense that he was one of the greatest Christian thinkers of that century necessarily) as one of the tools of satan. If one keeps getting (partially) right based on dogshit arguments, he won’t convince the reasonable, because the reasonable knows that the unreasonable path forward being criticized isn’t the one they want to take, and can’t imagine that there are equally insane people « « « on his side » » » that’ll actually end up making the other guy’s fever dream into a reality.

[@bannedmann4469]

You don't know what reason is. And you need to reacquaint yourself with the boy who cried wolf. You never shut up about moral panic and the world ending. It's not just atheists btw, it's everyone. You can't say the same things for decades if not more, then claim you called it when something resembling what you said kind of happens.

[@bigmyke2008]

“Depart from me, for I never knew you”

[@aldiascholarofthefirstsin1051]

Even a broken clock is right twice a day.

[@jamesk6953]

70s, Not 80s. David Bowie was doing this as part of the Glam Rock scene in the 70s. By the 80s he was over it, and wearing suis, either as art performance (Berlin-era "Scary Monsters"), or unironically as the "Let's Dance" New Romantic through being the frontman of Tin Machine. In other words, this schtick is 50 years old, not thirty. (Although it did see a resurgence in the early 90s when groups like Nirvana and The Meat Puppets owuld occasionally try for a similar effect from the different direction of grunge.)

[@na-vn5qy]

i imagine satan shuddering at the damage sam smith is doing to his image

[@retr0836]

Wendigoon has a video about angels were he explained how the devil has influence in politics. That’s my belief.

[@Sound557]

“Power over principles” might be an interesting title for a video

[@MrSeanqueef]

I can smell the vaush stench as we speak.

[@Sound557]

@@MrSeanqueef Mr. “Principled failure is worth dogshit” Vaush

[@Voltricity435]

@@Sound557 i wanna show a friend that clip but i couldn't find it when i was looking for it. do you happen to have it on hand?

[@Sound557]

@@Voltricity435 that clip and a couple more are in Dev’s “What is a Grifter?” video. So I’d check there first :)

[@MALICEM12]

@@Sound557 he's not wrong with that line tho. The average liberal like Dev is like a samurai choosing to die an honorable suicidal death in accordance with his Bushido code. Think of "the Last Samurai", them charging into machine gun and rifle fire on horse back with swords. It was stupid, it was never going to work. But it was the only way they knew and they would rather die than change. Liberalism has been doing the same for a while. Constantly losing ground out of principles and "civility" because they don't want to crack down and be "that guy". They don't want to cross the Rubicon, so they lose, and lose and lose. Decade after decade.

[@Noperare]

I believe nowdays people got "year 0" so often because of the overhelming ammount of content we consume daily. Zoomers can't eat without watching KZbin on their phones. So not only that is too much content to memorize it all, they don't look for old stuff because there is so much new content being pushed every day.

[@DavidSilva-mn4dz]

You know what is sexy? Competence, class, a good attire and colors that enhance the colors and face structure, that's hot for a prime time show.

[@MissShembre]

Naive kid: Where are the men corsets??? *Rocky Horror Picture Show EXISTS Do these people live under a rock?

[@Eirik_Bloodaxe]

As someone who’s always been into Metal, I usually roll my eyes when people call things satanic. But I also get that it’s pretty weird when you can flip on a mainstream celebrity award show, and see a pop star doing things with overt satanic themes. Like I know it isn’t a Gorgoroth concert or anything, but it’s weird. But I’m also not entirely sure they’re wrong. Our elite class seem like they’re genuinely into some weird shit. I would 100% believe Sam Smith is an unironic occultist levayan satanist, before I believed the guys in Slaughter To Prevail were actual Satanists.

[@BroadwayRonMexico]

Yep. The most overtly occultic stuff I've seen from music videos and performances hasnt been stuff from extreme metal bands with lyrics about Satan, but from mainstream pop singers and rappers. Especially ones at big events like the Super Bowl and awards shows

[@inquisitionagent9052]

So the progs are basically so butt hurt they'll do the exact opposite of what the trads consider good. If trads love something they'll hate it with a passion. If trads dislike something they'll make it their entire personality. Well I have news for the progs! Guess what? The people you hate love breathing. Feel free to stop doing so at your earliest convenience

[@watchonjar]

apparently they did a very different performance in the rehearsal that the label was already apprehensive about so now they are really pissed that he pulled that devil shit.

[@ricardoguanipa8275]

the people that call themselves Liberals are confusing "Liberalism" with "Libertinism."

[@SubtleStair]

Where is the divide, exactly?

[@chad_bro_chill]

@@SubtleStair The former wants the ability to eat candy without interference, with the goal of eating it in moderation. The latter wants to be free to eat nothing but candy. Something along those lines.

[@Sorain1]

@@chad_bro_chill That's a pretty good way of putting it.

[@nathanperquin9910]

that woman complaining that only hetero normative white thin sexy is okay for primetime is wrong, Sexual shit is not okay for primetime tv full stop there is no okay category. thats for private settings

[@Voltroc]

Man, I remember when NYPD Blue was causing the massive uproar cause of partial nudity. I was in middle school and parents were angry at that. It's super tame compared to what they blast out now, lol.

[@funkyweapon1981]

@@Voltroc They also said "shit" on that show.

[@rwberger6]

Sam Smith has just reached the stage of decline where he relies on shocking stunts for attention.

[@freddyvasquez3063]

It’s a shame too I actually like his songs

[@jackhirschler9027]

Slippery slope is not a fallacy. This is exactly what the Christian Right said would happen, and they’ve been right every time.

[@ExeErdna]

Humans are pattern based once you understand it, you can predict it. Don't get me wrong the right has it's own degens yet the left's issues is that they always go too damn far

[@Boysermusic]

Christianity utilises prophecy incredibly effectively, adds a lot more credibility to their points.

[@daviddechamplain5718]

You don't even need prophecy, just an understanding of human nature.

[@uppishcub1617]

So not only do now know that the Red Scare was completely right, but now the Satanic Panic. What a fucking timeline.

[@MurakamiTenshi]

"Differently gendered"? Write that down, write that down!!

[@houseofhas9355]

😂😂😂

[@TheGreenKnight500]

It's the most meaningless phrase I've heard in a while.

[@truepowerzay]

Dev why did you put in a jump scare at 4:00. It gave me a heart attack.

[@smileytownSF]

Uh….David Bowie did that in the SEVENTIES. And so did Lou Reed, the NY Dolls, and T Rex to name a few. The 80s was full of androgeny as well (hair metal, Culture Club, Prince!!!!)

[@calebnewton_]

So, Dev, were they “rightoid fever dreams” and “moral panics” or were they accurate about what that behavior, if left unchecked, would lead to?

[@samueldawkins]

yes they were moral panics.

[@Charizard100000357]

“Never seen this before” So rocky horror picture show just didn’t come out in 1975? Tootsie, 1982? Boys don’t cry, 1999?

[@ExeErdna]

Most of these people must have been born in the late 90s or early 00s and simply culturally ignorant

[@bvoyelr]

You hit the nail on the head. It's not anti LGBTQ to be against the current culture. This should be self evident considering there are right wing trans and gay people, though the trans issue is still being litigated -- it's not at all clear what is real or what an effective treatment for it is. What most people are against is the hedonistic decadence and emphasis on graphic depictions of promiscuity and sex. It's really not healthy to be awash in that kind of stuff, even if you DO like to do freaky stuff in private.

[@funkyweapon1981]

It's like, I didn't ask about your kinks, please keep them to yourself. It's just good manners.

[@auto1nfanticid3]

11:02 its why they call it a slippery slope. the culture of the 60s and 70s may not seem satanic to you but it very much was.

[@Slick_Tails]

Honestly Dev, I would love for you to take the topic of people saying "Nobody thinks that! Nobody does that!" only for it to become commonplace, and defended with the same level of fury and indignation, and just go ham with it. Pull out all the weeds of history and hope at least someone will learn from its mistakes.

[@joshuahicks7798]

As a religious right wing individual, I have to agree. People are over blowing this all out of proportion. I will keep saying what I have to say about God regardless of whatever nonsense comes out of the music industry and will see who the people side with.

[@Y2KNW]

Watch Sam Smith's performance or watch AC/DC play Highway to Hell? I know which one I wanna see and I don't think I've heard anyone complain about it in a long time.

[@Zed012]

My question is, are people ACTUALLY complaining about Sam Smith, or are media orgs on both sides of the poli spectrum SAYING that people are upset and then people are actually getting upset as the culture war dominos fall?

[@justinambru8529]

My point exactly, Joshua.

[@joshuahicks7798]

@@Zed012 I'm gonna have to look into that.

[@harleymitchelly5542]

@@Zed012 Honest answer, the driving force is from media orgs and political groups, but they need the extremists on whatever side to be loud, stupid, and upset in order for the orgs to actually get any of it to stick. I can draw parallels to how the "slippery slope" has just been mutually butchered by both sides into being a parody now. Leftoids bust it out as a cudgel against the rightoids, and rightoids use reacting against this parody version of it to paper over the weak links in their chain of causation. The actual slippery slope fallacy, being merely an informal one, has no business being in either of these contexts, but it's very politically useful for orgs on either end to continue with the term butchery to baffle people into more stupidity.

[@whiteeagleboneguard]

Madonna: Awaken my child, and embrace the glory that is your birthright.

[@migarsormrapophis2755]

That feel when Jack Chick was right That one hit me so hard I got whiplash

[@Sines314]

I've been kinda low-key defending Jack Chick for a while. He was crazy, but I always felt his heart was in the right place. But not even I believed we'd get here. He was still crazy. I don't think he's a prophet who read the writing on the wall. I'm just lamenting that the fever dreams of a crazy man happen to be coming true.

[@IllusionistsBane]

@@Sines314 I just think it's funny. Like it or not, the Western world puts itself as the leaders of the rest. And THIS is where they want to take us.

[@flamestoyershadowkill6400]

just wrong on time frame.

[@patrickwillis13]

Dawg as a Christian I'm both disgusted and apathetic. Satanic display isn't something I think is a thing people should dabble in but it's not me and I'm not gonna force my religious beliefs and practices on someone, especially on people that clearly don't care. But this just seems tiring; both the religious panic and the outrage farming. Like even when lil nas x did his satanic shit I couldn't careless.

[@CleetusGlobin]

Dev, is there any way you could keep a list of sources in the description or something? There’s articles and documents you show in some of your videos that I’d genuinely like to take a closer look at.

[@Ghargauloth]

I was listening to the video when you said that Madonna showed up looking like the Overmind, I had to stop to watch that part specifically, and I was disappointed to see that she didn't look like a giant pulsating brain with a black carapace and spire talons.

[@SelfReassuringTitle]

“We live in the most fun timeline” Gonna have to disagree with that one dev

[@jonintheredZ06]

I bet Sam Smith has a much weaker AT field than David Bowie.

[@BertzTriscut]

I'm a sheltered 24 year old, how the fuck am I more in touch with media and reality than these people claiming this is all new?

[@riftvallance2087]

So if you were to get together with a group of friends and put on a production of "The passion of christ" most people would look at you and think that you must be Christian. When you look at a story say lotr or chronicles of Narnia and find clear Christian symbolism and allegory again you would be right in drawing the logical conclusion that the authors are Christian. I'm not sure why when you apply this to something that's clearly satanic (either laced with satanic symbolism or just a blatant celebration of it)that you are suddenly a crazy pearl clutcher .

[@lordfrostwind3151]

Don't do the Devil's work unless you are prepared to pay the Devil's price. Ostensibly, a warning against doing evil things even if you have good intentions, but my word have we added an entire new subtext to that wisdom. I doubt Sam or any of the other people embracing degeneracy to milk the last little bits of attention are anything more than pathetic children, but you don't get to wear evil like makeup and perform its rituals without a price. Looking at everything going on, it seems pretty clear it's doing just that, sapping the beauty, health and every other good thing from them, a bit more literally than metaphorically in Madonnas case.

[@eliud2099]

To YOU this is just a very funny “series of events”, to the Christian this is prophecy.

[@MrLolguy93]

Honest question Dev : Do you think we'll see an increase of religiosity and a return to traditional gender norns within our lifetimes? Asking as an Atheist watching the current societal trends from the side

[@davidfrancisco3502]

Not until women are skull crushed into their true role of breeding livestock.

[@SoakintheSchadenfreude]

Possibly. If society itself is pushing chaos and instability then people may trend to something that provides order and structure, but that is by no means a guarantee.

[@TheGreenKnight500]

We are seeing religiosity. The current leftist culture is a religion. It has original sin, rituals, prayers and mantras, martyrs and saints, crusades, priestly classes, and a fabled judgement day. It's officially atheist, but religion doesn't require a god. Right now, we're seeing what happened in Rome: a new religion takes hold of the urban populations and begins to impose it on the "backwards and sinful" rural population. Remember that the terms "heathen" and "pagan" both mean "rural people" and were used by the urban Christians to denigrate the "uneducated rural rubes" who hadn't adopted the new ideology yet. Christians are the new pagans and if they don't outlast the urbanites, they'll be wiped out. Unlike the old pagans, I think Christians can survive longer. Wokists too many beliefs that undermine their ability to reproduce and trust each other.

[@dawnmana5876]

Possibly. The wildness and degeneration of the roaring 20s paved the way for the 50s. The degeneracy of the late Roman empire inspired a lot of the strictness that came later.

[@Boysermusic]

​@@dawnmana5876 wouldn't be surprised if the global dominance of western countries like America gets overturned, starting the process.

[@drewbakka5265]

>tfw I might end up sainted the hard way in the near future Well... thats nice

[@enclaveherewhyisntyourvide3089]

Fascinating that SFO can cover the culture shift while still kind of rejecting the ‘cork bobbing in the overton sea’ critique.

[@simonpetrikov3992]

What do you mean

[@davidfrancisco3502]

There's not such thing of "both sides are bad" "there were mistakes on both sides" one side is right and the other is wrong period. That's just vanalizing and justifying the atrocities of evil people.

[@chavaspada]

@@davidfrancisco3502 funny how radical SJWs and rightwing zealots say the same shit 🤣

[@cdubsb3831]

@@davidfrancisco3502 no, it's calling evil for what it is and condemning it from anywhere it stems from rather than accept evil for political advantage. Politicians from both parties were on Epstein's island and instead of actually rooting out evil people just want to stand on the moral high ground of having less pedos on their side.

[@davidfrancisco3502]

@@cdubsb3831 Dev is a disgrunted communist who was thrown under the bus by his parasitic bolschevic cult yet he refuse to wake up and realize everythin he was told is a lie and the people he was told to hate were right all along.

[@zzodysseuszz]

His song unholy keeps playing on Spotify ads and it’s annoying me. That’s all I know about him

[@LancerDL]

If Satan was as appealing as that, I'd be a much better Christian.

[@LordBaktor]

Having seen friends go through their TVUE CVLT Black Metal phase (I never got into that particular sub-genre of metal), this level of satanic imagery is nothing. A bunch of edgy, mentally unstable Norwegian teenagers out-satan anything Hollywood has ever done.

[@BroadwayRonMexico]

What's funny is, given the massive amount of actual occultic symbolism and ritual shit mainstream pop acts have in performances at major events (such as Super Bowls, Grammys, etc), coupled with our elite class's deep interest in that kind of shit (Epstein's weird art and island temple anyone?), I'd 100% believe Sam Smith or Arianna Grande were part of Ordo Templi Orientis, Temple of Set, or some other actual Satanic/Luciferian occult society before I believed the any one of the vast majority of black metal musicians were.

[@deutschesvaterlandfankanal]

Bruh i love black metal,it has EVERYTHING In IT