San Martin SN021g-B3 FULL REVIEW

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@TaylorCFP
@TaylorCFP Жыл бұрын
Got this one in the Dark blue and with the new 20mm bracelet. (According to San Martin’s website, haven’t measured myself) Amazing watch for the money! The crystal is gorgeous. My wife, who’s not really a watch person, immediately noticed the way the light plays with the crystal and polished bezel.
@jjakiefte2165
@jjakiefte2165 2 жыл бұрын
I have the black dial one. If I had to buy it again I'd go for the non-gilt version, the gilt is, perhaps, a touch garish, although in natural light that is less noticeable. Proportion-wise it may be the best SM watch to date (and 19mm straps are widely available). Finishing and QC are excellent. The printed logo is a very good idea, much less 'intrusive' than the solid applied one.
@EscapeWheel
@EscapeWheel 2 жыл бұрын
Ah, I like the gold 🤣. Agree with everything else though
@RabidMortal1
@RabidMortal1 2 жыл бұрын
I don't see a non gilt option?
@EscapeWheel
@EscapeWheel 2 жыл бұрын
@@RabidMortal1 s.click.aliexpress.com/e/_AZMuFp Only Tiffany blue and black, though
@jjakiefte2165
@jjakiefte2165 2 жыл бұрын
@@RabidMortal1 Seek and thou shalt find....
@the.Aruarian
@the.Aruarian 2 жыл бұрын
They do a dark blue, non-gilt option now on request.
@daynevickers1079
@daynevickers1079 2 жыл бұрын
Great review, thanks for the comparison to V2...I just received mine with the black/gilt dial. In three words... I LOVE it! This is my third San Martin, and, with this one, they hit all my sweet spots. Fit and finish/QC is easily equal to most mid-tier Swiss pieces. Love the light weight on wrist. The dial is incredible; beautiful and extremely legible. The lume? Outstanding! Comfort level is a 9.5 out of 10. The only knock I have is that, on wrist, the watch looks smaller than I expected after looking at all available vids and pics, but all the good vibes this watch gives off totally make up for that. This one is gonna cause all the other watches in my collection to gather dust (for a while, at least).
@matthewmelton1340
@matthewmelton1340 2 жыл бұрын
I really enjoyed this review, very well put together. I just picked up the dark blue dial version of this and I am enjoying it, very impressed with my first San Martin.
@TIGERTRONIK
@TIGERTRONIK Жыл бұрын
Awesome review - definitely the tipping point for me to purchase one myself. Same green gilt dial. Looking forward to receiving it (and yes I used your link).
@EscapeWheel
@EscapeWheel Жыл бұрын
Seriously one xof my favorite watches I have reviewed on the channel. Enjoy it! And thank you so much for using my links and supporting the channel 🤜🤛
@jamlove2020
@jamlove2020 2 жыл бұрын
So happy your channel is back, I bought this watch but the movement has failed, first and last Chinese movement I'll buy, this is my third San Martin watch. San Martin have been good I guess, offered to take the watch back at their expense and fix it but I opted for a new movement shipped to me for $25 and replaced at my expense, it'll be be much quicker. The experience will probably mean this is the last Aliexpress watch I'll ever buy, I have enough anyway but it was a bummer that the most expensive one I ever bought was also a dud, meanwhile my $90 Courgeut with a Miyota is still ticking away happily and noisily after 4 years.
@EscapeWheel
@EscapeWheel 2 жыл бұрын
yeah, those PT5000's are hit and miss...thankfully mine have all been really good. I'm glad you 2 could work something out in the end, and hopefully your new movement will last you a good long while.
@AutisticOddball
@AutisticOddball 2 жыл бұрын
lovely review.Thank you. I bought the Black and gilt version after watching this. delighted with it. The tips of the lugs are a bit sharp without the bracelet but a minor quibble. Perfect everyday watch for the slender wristed. Wear mine on a 19mm black ops MN strap. extremely comfortable and ccurate af.
@EscapeWheel
@EscapeWheel 2 жыл бұрын
Ooo that would be a sweet combo. You should post on Reddit Chinesewatches! Would love to see it
@Crazy09starkillor
@Crazy09starkillor 2 жыл бұрын
Did you get the Pt5000 version or the sw200?
@AutisticOddball
@AutisticOddball 2 жыл бұрын
@@Crazy09starkillor the Pt5000. Gorgeous little thing. Has gained 28 seconds in 19 days and has banging lume. Will buy another Pt5000 in the next sale.
@seventyandone
@seventyandone 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Steve, thankx for this review. Well done! I can see you put much effort into it and I hope that other brands and youtubers will recognize your channel. The watch itself is a step back for me although I love to see that the lume increased significantly. The 19mm lugwith is a nogo for me and the printed logo a disapointment. Wishing you a nice weekend!
@EscapeWheel
@EscapeWheel 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Andrew.. definitely some odd choices with this one. After having the explorer, and now this, I can definitely say I prefer the printed logo.
@FRST2012
@FRST2012 2 жыл бұрын
A great update video, thanks. Now I know the changes and I have placed it on my wrist a few time (although still with plastic) it does looks good. The printed logo is better in my opinion, as mentioned the applied logo doesn’t quite work. It is an impressive piece. I wonder if I were to wear it and then go and look/try a BlackBay 36, whether I would now be disappointed with the latter because the San Martin is just so good at 10% of the cost?
@EscapeWheel
@EscapeWheel 2 жыл бұрын
The Tudor doesn't do anything for me for some reason 🤷
@georgepolyakov7732
@georgepolyakov7732 2 жыл бұрын
Great review! Gosh now I wanna pick one of these up, either the black gilt or the black 369. I had my doubts at first, but the new case looks really good 👍 san martin know what they're doing
@EscapeWheel
@EscapeWheel 2 жыл бұрын
Indeed they do.
@paulhanel332
@paulhanel332 2 жыл бұрын
I prefer the gilt dial but like the B-2 case. I like the thinner bezel on the B-2 and of course the lug width. I have tried to buy the Smith's Explorer homage but am irritated by their failure to meet demand. This is just as high quality and with a Swiss movement still comes in at a lower price. When's the next sale? Thanks Steve!
@scatterbrain9490
@scatterbrain9490 2 жыл бұрын
I never knew it was an option with leather bands at least, I have a 20 lug and jeweler only had 22 mil leather bands. I thought I was out of luck, but he simply fitted it by snipping the corners. It lines up with the full width of the lugs and looks much better than the 20 mil I had previously. I am really surprised I had to find this out this way, after watching watch reviews for 10 months now, about 2 hours a day, 7 days a week. The most simplest things can be overlooked or just assumed they are common knowledge.
@EscapeWheel
@EscapeWheel 2 жыл бұрын
True, but then you can't use the strap on those 20mm watches.
@khairulhelmihashim2510
@khairulhelmihashim2510 2 жыл бұрын
I have no problem with 19mm bracelet. The SM bracelet quality is good, so I will tend not to change it.
@EscapeWheel
@EscapeWheel 2 жыл бұрын
I figure most are like you. I'm a strap whore though, love me some straps 🤣
@stevenmccarthy112
@stevenmccarthy112 2 жыл бұрын
The only change I would make is to shorten the lug to lug width by about 1.5 mm or even 2 mm.
@EscapeWheel
@EscapeWheel 2 жыл бұрын
I've heard that from a few people. Maybe they'll listen 🤷. Thanks for watching!
@TheDoberman972
@TheDoberman972 Жыл бұрын
What’s your wrist size ?
@error4159
@error4159 2 жыл бұрын
I think I found my next watch. I just got the 36mm Explorer version and I'm loving it but the green/gilt dial with Tudor hands just looks sexy to me, lol
@quality_times
@quality_times 2 жыл бұрын
great review mate, as always! may I ask, does the bracelet and the case have two different kinds of finishing? 🤔
@EscapeWheel
@EscapeWheel 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, circular brushing on the top lugs, vertical bracelet brushing.
@sunandwind2983
@sunandwind2983 8 ай бұрын
Didn't think I'd like that green as much as I do 😊 nice ☺️
@EscapeWheel
@EscapeWheel 8 ай бұрын
It's beautiful in person.
@edjustice7755
@edjustice7755 2 жыл бұрын
Great review as usual!! Thx for the share. The quality for the price point is astonishing. If they were make bigger steps would we be enticed to the next price point, just food for thought. Myself, would not buy as many, but for sure would. Thx again!
@EscapeWheel
@EscapeWheel 2 жыл бұрын
Not sure I'm willing to pay more than this. They could fancy up the clasp, add quick release to the bracelets, clean up the crown threading action...then sure, maybe another $40 could be squeezed out.
@chrisgravel7157
@chrisgravel7157 2 жыл бұрын
Love this watch and colour options. Pls San Martin make it in a 40-41mm case!
@johnmuthan286
@johnmuthan286 2 жыл бұрын
I have ordered the black and guilt version of this same version. I think the new bezel, cristal and case is great, just disappointed by the 19mm lug width, they should keep it 20mm. Hope they will do a silver sunburst dial version one day, would be great.
@jjakiefte2165
@jjakiefte2165 2 жыл бұрын
The original Tudor is also 19mm. On the Barton website and on Ali you will find many 19mm straps, no problem.
@kobusvanrensburg4092
@kobusvanrensburg4092 2 жыл бұрын
South Africa has green and gold as their sporting colours. This fits perfectly for that 👌🏼
@EscapeWheel
@EscapeWheel 2 жыл бұрын
My college team colors are sometimes Green and gold....gives me more reason to like it (not that I needed any more)
@umuttemelli7006
@umuttemelli7006 2 жыл бұрын
Such a good review mate! Excellent piece also. Thank you very much.
@EscapeWheel
@EscapeWheel 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you! And also, thanks for checking out the video. Much appreciated 👍
@jeremy67A
@jeremy67A 10 ай бұрын
wouldn't mind seeing the green one with the arabic numerals that the black one has
@noou
@noou 7 ай бұрын
sorry, I don't get it. The current model has gone back to 20mm lugs? 19mm while a bit difficult to find, looks more proportioned on such a small watch
@Mr-Safology
@Mr-Safology 2 жыл бұрын
That green is so satisfying. If San Martin make that same dial in the 62mas case (with bezel) 37mm, then it would be the best seller. I would buy a few. Again, great review as usual. San Martin are the micro brand of Asia. I have a question. I'm searching for a Cartier Santos medium style watch, or a square watch not large in size, with Roman numerals. Any suggestions? Around
@EscapeWheel
@EscapeWheel 2 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately "tanks" and Santos are out there, but not great. I've seen a couple Santos homages but they are "lady size". Check out Peugeot, and pablo Raez. I think both are pretty low quality, though. Berny has some tank style watches as well. Agelecore (or however is spelled) has the nicest one but it's like $200+ for a quartz. Sanda has a tank....there are plenty out there, but nothing "middle of the road" unfortunately
@bijakbijak4024
@bijakbijak4024 2 жыл бұрын
I have the pastel blue already but i love this green dial
@EscapeWheel
@EscapeWheel 2 жыл бұрын
I don't think you can go wrong with any of these colors 😍
@niqpw
@niqpw 2 жыл бұрын
Great review! I really like the bracelet but the edges seem extremely sharp so after a couple of days my wrist is quite tender. I compared to a SARB033 bracelet and those edges are lovely and smooth. Have I just got a bad one?
@EscapeWheel
@EscapeWheel 2 жыл бұрын
They could be smoothed out a bit for sure. Maybe I have a tough wrist, because others have said certain bracelets are sharp, but then just never bother me 🤷
@niqpw
@niqpw 2 жыл бұрын
@@EscapeWheel Yep, maybe I'm just a bit too sensitive. The tolerances and everything else on the bracelet is really outstanding, this is the only failing. Maybe I'll get a dremel on it 🙂
@EscapeWheel
@EscapeWheel 2 жыл бұрын
@@niqpw it honestly wouldn't take much, and it's the bottom edge so it's hidden
@unknowninvictus2520
@unknowninvictus2520 Жыл бұрын
I'm gonna be a bit critical here, but they should really use more scratch-resistant steel, cause of all that work and polishing which pretty much gets ruined after a week of handling. What's the point?
@EscapeWheel
@EscapeWheel Жыл бұрын
316L is the standard across most watches these days...not sure many use a coating or something. Rolex using a softer 904L and no ody complains 🤷
@unknowninvictus2520
@unknowninvictus2520 Жыл бұрын
​@@EscapeWheel In my mind, they could've used titanium for the watch or the bezel/ visible scratch surfaces (which adds to the cost, I know, but the watch itself isn't what that cheap) to maintain the highly polished surface and make it a daily wearable item. In its state now, A beautiful watch, but only usable as a dress watch.
@AlexanderB.
@AlexanderB. 2 жыл бұрын
It's a fabulously well made watch and I love the design this is based on. I would have like a blue and silver version (I don't mean Tiffany) I think this green an gilt colour combination is a bit weird, an answer to a question nobody has asked.
@EscapeWheel
@EscapeWheel 2 жыл бұрын
Haha, I love it. I also think I saw them say they are working on a navy and gilt dial. That would look pretty good I think.
@AlexanderB.
@AlexanderB. 2 жыл бұрын
@@EscapeWheel Yikes! Navy and gilt? So nineties, not interested! 🤢
@TopStrikerMaverick
@TopStrikerMaverick 4 ай бұрын
Is there a jubilee version?
@EscapeWheel
@EscapeWheel 4 ай бұрын
Sadly not at this time. Would be wise if then to make a compatible one
@ryanmcfadin09
@ryanmcfadin09 2 жыл бұрын
Man I'm trying to decide between the black BB36 gilt or the BB58 homage. Such a thought choice. I'm leaning towards the 36
@EscapeWheel
@EscapeWheel 2 жыл бұрын
The watchdives one? Or the SN008?. Either way, tough choice indeed. The watchdives one is based on the SN004 /6200 so it's BB58 sized and it's cheaper using the NH35. I'll have my review up in a while, but it'll be sold out by then probably as they are limited editions and only like 100 of each color is being made.
@LCMNUNES1962
@LCMNUNES1962 Жыл бұрын
EXCELENTE RELÓGIO VERY GOOD WATCH SAN MARTIN 36mm 👍👍👍 🇧🇷
@drwindsurf
@drwindsurf 2 жыл бұрын
Fantastic Review. Thank you 👍
@EscapeWheel
@EscapeWheel 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Thanks for watching!
@dentmaster9069
@dentmaster9069 2 жыл бұрын
Man the black version of this ( with white instead of gold) would be an absolute monster of a watch
@EscapeWheel
@EscapeWheel 2 жыл бұрын
They are fantastic...staring to like snowflake over Mercedes.
@jjakiefte2165
@jjakiefte2165 2 жыл бұрын
They have a silver index and hands one. The case is now also 19mm (used to be 20mm)
@dentmaster9069
@dentmaster9069 2 жыл бұрын
@@jjakiefte2165 I Know which model you're referring to but that one has an applied logo and a matt black dial instead off glossy. That is a huge deał breaker specially the applied logo witch throws out the proportion
@jjakiefte2165
@jjakiefte2165 2 жыл бұрын
@@dentmaster9069 The black dial of this version is matte too..... You can have the applied logo customised by replacing it with a printed one.
@newschannel9708
@newschannel9708 Жыл бұрын
Which dial color is good , black or blue?
@the_9ent
@the_9ent 2 жыл бұрын
Should I get green/ gilt, black/ gilt, black/ silver or wait to see if they bring out a blue/ gilt?
@EscapeWheel
@EscapeWheel 2 жыл бұрын
I heard they were doing a blue gilt dial, just not sure when
@yousefshokir6481
@yousefshokir6481 2 жыл бұрын
Do they have black silver????
@EscapeWheel
@EscapeWheel 2 жыл бұрын
@@yousefshokir6481 they do. Same everything except silver and applied logo s.click.aliexpress.com/e/_9vjvtB
@slhon1
@slhon1 2 жыл бұрын
Hi. Great review, great watch. I’m seriously considering buying it. Can you give us more details about how easy or not is the sizing of the bracelet ? I saw everything and its opposite. Do we need to use tools to heat up the bracelet to melt the Loctite, buy a loctite tube etc? I’m expatriated in a small town in Vietnam and I don’t have good experience there so far with watch sellers… To wrap this up: how easy is it, are the screwdrivers provided with the box enough for a safe wear? Tks in advance ! I’m going to have a look on your review about the vintage Sub homage now 😉
@EscapeWheel
@EscapeWheel 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you! and sure thing. sizing is really easy with these if you have the tools..thankfully SM provides a screwdriver in the box and that's all one should need. simply unscrew the screws and they pull right out, remove as many links as necessary and screw it all back in place. I've never had a bad screw with a san martin watch, very high quality finishing on the screws and threads when compared to something like Pagani design. I've also had this bracelet on a few watches now and quite a bit of use and never had a screw back out. SM did provide some locktite with a coupe watches (rivet bracelets, and the SN012 full Lume helm i just reviewed) but they don't ship the watch with locktite so no need to heat it up.
@slhon1
@slhon1 2 жыл бұрын
@@EscapeWheel Tks for your complete answer. Very useful. There’s just the « quite a bit of use » that intrigues me a bit though🤔.
@EscapeWheel
@EscapeWheel 2 жыл бұрын
@@slhon1 just means a lot of wrist time on the bracelet. Screws tend to back out after a couple days on wrist... These have seen many days with no sign of backing out.
@slhon1
@slhon1 2 жыл бұрын
@@EscapeWheel ok. Tks again. 😀👍🏻
@slhon1
@slhon1 2 жыл бұрын
This is the answer I got from SM. that’s what you said but just wanted to share the official recommendations from SM. « Hello Mr.Sébastien Lhoneux, Thanks for your interest and wish you all the best. I see your request and there is no need to add glue on the screw after sizing the bracelet, but if you worry about it, we can send you some glue along with the watch so you can add some to make sure it won't come loose, no worries. »
@butts4653
@butts4653 2 жыл бұрын
why is gold suddenly "gilt"?
@EscapeWheel
@EscapeWheel 2 жыл бұрын
"gilt" just means something that is covered in a thin layer of gold or gold like substance....so since its golden markers it's "Gilt" but honestly I have no idea...sounds better I guess.
@russellco1209
@russellco1209 2 жыл бұрын
Would you be able to do a direct comparison between this san martin and the equivalent Pagani PD1716? I assume there are many people that would like to understand the value difference between these two models as they are so similar.
@EscapeWheel
@EscapeWheel 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, I would be willing to do that. I've got a couple reviews to get through, but it could make for an interesting review
@utente3062
@utente3062 Жыл бұрын
Ciao il mio San Martin quadrante verde con logo stampato l'ansa e 20 mm.arrivato ieri,saluti.
@eugenevedensky6071
@eugenevedensky6071 2 жыл бұрын
That green is gorgeous. Do you feel this case is better balanced than the explorer case?
@EscapeWheel
@EscapeWheel 2 жыл бұрын
I do. Seems just about right now. The explorer case always seemed like the bracelet was a touch too wide. This fixed that
@pilou6457
@pilou6457 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you beautiful video and watch..👍🤩🤩
@EscapeWheel
@EscapeWheel 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@MrPINKFL0YD
@MrPINKFL0YD Жыл бұрын
The height of the crystal and the AR ruins it..
@pirapongsee4171
@pirapongsee4171 Жыл бұрын
Is the winding while screwing normal? Just bought this. Felt weird
@EscapeWheel
@EscapeWheel Жыл бұрын
Yup, normal. SM hasn't quite adopted the spring loaded crowns yet. Cronos, proxima, and baltany are the ones Ali brands I have come across that don't wind while screwing in.
@thegorn
@thegorn Жыл бұрын
Is than an enamel dial?
@EscapeWheel
@EscapeWheel Жыл бұрын
They call it enamel. It's glossy and deep. Not sure it's a true enameled dial though
@chrislim7976
@chrislim7976 Жыл бұрын
19mm. Why. 😞
@denisdaly1708
@denisdaly1708 2 жыл бұрын
really nice
@EscapeWheel
@EscapeWheel 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@wallytuber
@wallytuber 2 жыл бұрын
I wonder why they decided to print the logo instead of an applied logo in the newer version. Seems like a downgrade.
@EscapeWheel
@EscapeWheel 2 жыл бұрын
It's a polarizing decision. Some love it, some hate it. The applied logo looks great in pics, but definitely turns into a blob of metal on the dial at times. I prefer the printed logo
@doncarlas4928
@doncarlas4928 Жыл бұрын
I recently bought a San Martin from the official website and I noticed a few things about it. It's about the SN021-g b2 in black. According to the manufacturer, the bandwidth should be 20mm, but it is 19mm and no its not with the printed logo. I also noticed that the manual winding does not work smoothly. As soon as you set the time and I push in a notch, the minute hand shifts quite a bit and there is also a strong resistance that doesn't make it easy to push in. It's not my first automatic watch and I've never had this problem with any of my others. I still have 2 years of warranty. I have written to San Martin several times but nothing has come from their side and their phone number does not exist. Who should I contact and how can I to fix the problem? Thank you and best regards
@Tobi_Jones
@Tobi_Jones 2 жыл бұрын
i prefer the version 2 case, i like the look of the thinner bezel an the 20mm lug width
@EscapeWheel
@EscapeWheel 2 жыл бұрын
While I like the V3, I never saw anyone complain about the V2's proportions. 🤷
@JiiHate
@JiiHate 2 жыл бұрын
The thicker bezel just isn't good. They got it wrong the first time and now they went back.
@EscapeWheel
@EscapeWheel 2 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't go THAT far. It's not as bad as V1, but I also don't remember seeing people complain about the V2 bezel being too thin
@carlogalopo2605
@carlogalopo2605 2 жыл бұрын
The timing of Allie express watches couldn't be more perfect since value Seiko's are slowly disappearing.
@EscapeWheel
@EscapeWheel 2 жыл бұрын
So true. I expect this to drop under $300 during the sale
@carlogalopo2605
@carlogalopo2605 2 жыл бұрын
@@EscapeWheel you can't even buy a Seiko with sapphire crystal at this price point. Plus the bezel alignment on the divers are a hit and miss. My mini turtle is slightly off
@EscapeWheel
@EscapeWheel 2 жыл бұрын
@@carlogalopo2605 I'm very aware of Seiko's....nuances...lol. I used to really like them and recommend them, but you have to really care about branding to go with them these days. There's some really great stuff coming out of China.
@stefbacum4454
@stefbacum4454 2 жыл бұрын
What would you choose between the V2 (explorer) and the Bb36 version and why? I just can't make up my mind..
@EscapeWheel
@EscapeWheel 2 жыл бұрын
Well, now, at this point, it's pretty much design. I think both are awesome, but the Gilt dial accents look so damn good. But then I glance down at my wrist and see the 3,6,9 shimmering away. If I had to have one, black snowflake, probably.
@stefbacum4454
@stefbacum4454 2 жыл бұрын
@@EscapeWheel cool! Thanks for the reply! BTW, great channel 👍
@EscapeWheel
@EscapeWheel 2 жыл бұрын
@@stefbacum4454 thanks for the kind words, And thanks for watching 👍
@steveyoung101
@steveyoung101 2 жыл бұрын
It is a nice watch. However, homage watches have no collectible values.
@EscapeWheel
@EscapeWheel 2 жыл бұрын
I definitely don't buy homages for profit....very few watches actually GAIN valie
@stavros_katsopr
@stavros_katsopr 2 жыл бұрын
Guilty! It's for Brits indeed...😜
@t88t33
@t88t33 2 жыл бұрын
Realy nice vid, but those gloves 😉
@EscapeWheel
@EscapeWheel 2 жыл бұрын
Lol, I need some new ones...time for an upgrade...lol Thanks for the compliments.
@oliviersebastian1516
@oliviersebastian1516 Жыл бұрын
Just dont hold the watches, yur hands trembles,
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