AVENGERS: Why Ultron Was Right (And Knew About The Scarlet Witch!)

[@ScreenCrush]

Where do you rank Age of Ultron among the Avengers movies?

[@lordvenjix3757]

9/22

[@TheRealSkreegle]

i personally think it's one of the best

[@joaotd49]

4th I don’t hate it, it just seems a bit off

[@fletcherseaman9808]

How did you make this comment 37 minutes ago yet the video posted 12 minutes ago lol?

[@fiyahspinnah]

He's my least favorite. Definitely the weakest avenger movie.

[@vigilantcorgi2901]

ultron spent like a second on the internet and immediately said "alright, humans gotta go"

[@MrSmity]

That’s what happens when a sane person experiences Twitter and TicTok for the first time.

[@LurkerPlus]

@TheEpicCorgi - Valid, tbh.

[@Whodathunk993]

Probably saw 4chan

[@taxuenowoz4038]

Ultron said “IT SMEELS LIKE BITCH IN HERE, ALL YALL SMELL LIKE BITCH TO ME.

[@Kahadi]

I... Think this comment thread has shown exactly why Ultron made that decision

[@Red_the_Mage]

Ultron was a villain that deserved waaay more than just one film

[@recklezz8474]

He is out there somewhere and *HE WILL COME BACK*

[@Barvyon]

@@recklezz8474 I agree, There is absolutely no way, he didn't back himself up, or have other versions of himself outside of Sakovia, especially if he was planning on wiping out the world of Humans, wouldn't bet everything on one spot.

[@XMAXEL]

@@Barvyon Why wouldn't he have reappeared by the time Thanos appeared then? I can think of a few things but it doesn't really add up.

[@yannick460]

@@XMAXEL maybe he wasn't fully ready yet the blow he got was too much and he was still recovering

[@XMAXEL]

@@yannick460 Yeah it's possible. Just seemed like there would've been plenty of time to regroup between the 2 movies. Could be that his backups got corrupted as well.

[@yezzojey_7562]

I bet that’s why age of ultron is so underrated because people never put the pieces together for the movie to actually make sense

[@MH-zg5yw]

The movie just wasn't that good. It was bloated and long. Audiences shouldn't have to "put pieces together" in order for a movie to make sense. If you have to do that then the director failed in telling a solid story that audiences could understand.

[@jaeshrade4600]

@@MH-zg5yw well it was Joss Whedon so....

[@BB-pd6ht]

@@MH-zg5yw marvel series is literally about the audience piecing together what's going to happen next tf. It literally makes shrouds you in mystery at the end of every movie since you don't know what's gonna happen next

[@pkmnproductions7461]

@@MH-zg5yw You, my good sur are what I call a PP head 🗣️

[@jens-christianjensen7409]

@@MH-zg5yw yeah, Ultrons mission is pretty dumb for all the lines devoted to it and he isn’t interesting enough to warrant all the screentime he gets

[@kingpopez]

I still don't get why people don't like this movie. Ultrons first monolog still gives me chills. So many good quotes in that movie

[@Elipson52008]

the main reason i heard was because Ultron was too silly. People liked the feel of phase one, but started noticing it becoming less heavy in tone. So when Ultron, a threat that was supposed the be this killing machine, appears and is mostly cracking jokes, they felt Marvel was just not taking the source material and their movies seriously anymore.

[@kingpopez]

@@Elipson52008 fair and reasonable, but I liked it cause it made him like human but less morality. I also liked how preachy he was, it was scary in a way

[@RoxyStopIt]

It’s amazingggg

[@denlikes2watch]

Maybe people are expecting the movies to follow the comics too much. Ultron in the comics was a much drier personality but that was because he was originally a product of Henry Pym and was a true A.I.....in the movies he is basically a conglomerate of Jarvis and Tony Stark and so he of course mimicked a lot of Tony's humor and sarcasm and this is what the movie wanted to portray. Hard core comic geeks must also remember that Ultron was not as sophisticated an A.I. until several versions were reborn each one more intelligent than the last....the movies don't have time to follow the true, original drawn out story of Ultron.

[@somersault1123]

People are strange. Did you know most people actually liked Endgame? But not only that consider it the best Avengers movie? Absolutely wild. When they have the original movie, Civil War, Age of Ultron and Infinity War to choose from but they pick the absolute worst instead.

[@jerm5772]

This video makes me appreciate the writers and directors more by making me see there is so much more depth to the story.

[@clarkkent3809]

You have to watch a video almost two decades later, just to explain plot holes, and make up fake connections...? God you MCU fans are...interesting.

[@josephwilliams5292]

@@clarkkent3809 two decades? Age of ultron came out in like 2016. That was only 5 years ago.

[@nathanfmc4375]

@@clarkkent3809 sounds like someones mad DC cant come out with a good team up film LMAO

[@franciscoOrellana29]

@@clarkkent3809 roasted

[@LyrixNChill]

same

[@hansenriquez1810]

Ultron was basically a programming error. Tony meant to "protect humanity" but he actually coded "protect the Earth." Protecting the Earth doesn't necessarily mean saving us.

[@jonelpolot3459]

Makes sense.

[@emanuelbaxter285]

good point

[@Tyler_W]

This is yet another example of why communication is key. Ulton baaically tried to blow up the world because he didn't understand sarcasm and irony.

[@kumoitojp]

Indeed! To save the earth, the cancer - humanity, must be removed.

[@stormhawkdude]

this is kind of like Gaia in the Type Moon universe; Gaia being the spirit of the Earth while Alyia is the Consciousness of Humanity. Gaia doesn't care about Humanity continuing and Aliya couldn't give a darn about the Earth's safety. Oh good lord, the Avengers are part of the Counter Force

[@dimitreze]

meanwhile DC is still editing their first team up superhero movie

[@tiberiusblack659]

... For the 2nd time.

[@thepebble23]

And somehow im still waiting for it

[@blackacidevil1313]

@@thepebble23 Everyone likes to watch a car crash, from a safe distance.

[@thatneli]

@@tiberiusblack659 🤣🤣

[@thepebble23]

@@blackacidevil1313 lmao bruh at this point its like hoping that someone in that wreck you just witnessed survived

[@sheepcz7747]

My only regret is that Ultron was only on screen for a short while, he's a great Thanos level villain, it's a shame he disappeared so soon, I quietly want to believe he'll be back.

[@pedroivog.s.6870]

I mean there's a very small chance that the new Vision body could come back as Ultron somehow Also with Secret Wars in phase 6 continuity can go bonkers so that too

[@fartzhapy4165]

He'll be back he always does.

[@erichanastacio9695]

Could have stored a copy of himself on the internet to be activated at a later time... Just like a horcrux.

[@AllyrionWW]

They basically did bring him back for “What if..?” That was probably them trying to do him more Justice than the movies were able to do alone

[@amazingboi9388]

Fr

[@leomorali]

Is it just me or WandaVision actually made Age of Ultron a better movie??

[@CecilMcW00t]

Definitely not just you. I have never been fond of that movie but after Wandavision and deep dives like this, I actually want to give it another shot.

[@J.O.R.D]

Nah I wouldn’t say so, it could’ve been better but I’ve always appreciated that movie, WV to me just shows AoU’s importance to people who thought otherwise

[@chadcognac5626]

Yep. Kinda how they used mandalorian to make rise of skywalker not suck so bad.

[@akuma6910]

I've always enjoyed Age of Ultron. But WandaVision made me revisit the movie. It's videos like this one that show just how deep it really was. It planted a lot of seeds for what's to come.

[@claudeoliver9437]

It's been great before WandaVision came out, people just don't understand AoU.

[@NateeB1]

Ultrons first scene where he is walking in with the broken robot look is one of my favorite scenes out of any Marvel film. So good.

[@iunderstanphotography2780]

That was dope. At first I didn't like Ultron having emotions, humor, and personality (I was used to the comic version) but he might have ended up being a 1 dimensional villain and boring to watch. Being voiced by James Spader was even better. They did cut a few lines from the movie that were in the trailer, and that trailer had me hype for a year tho!

[@teem5208]

Yes I always have to rewind when I'm watching it

[@UnusHonorabilis]

James Spader voicing Ultron was BRILLIANT casting

[@MF_Lucifer]

I think it’s our first glimpse of horror in the MCU

[@devinmurphy6575]

Cap didn’t refuse to sign the accords because of his code of honor. He refused to sign the accords because he knows that government entities and organizations can become corrupt. Caps objection to the accords is brought directly from the winter soldier where he had to fight shield because shield became corrupted by hydra.

[@austinthesan-antonian3932]

Thanks for giving the Correction.

[@stephenweiss6001]

Yes, and it seemed to me that some of those writers must have been somewhat Libertarian and/or classical liberals, since Captain America reflects that over/against Iron Man, who is more willing to go Authoritarian to gain "peace in our time". I see them playing "liberty" over/against "security", showing the impossibility of having all of both with a flawed humanity/imperfect world, and thus how one must choose which is more important and have first priority. Each--both liberty and security-- come at a cost, and that cost is having less of the other. Captain America chooses liberty over security, whereas Iron Man chooses to pursue security over liberty. Both AoU and Civil War play this out. I mean, the "civil war" between the two warring factions of Avengers was largely over this very issue: Individual Liberty vs. Societal Security, Libertarian Individualism vs. Authoritarian Collectivism. Please do not conclude I mean Republican vs. Democrat, as both parties are guilty of excesses in being authoritarian (enslaving/controlling people to following your vision for them) and libertarian (thinking/caring of yourself only at the exclusion of also caring for your neighbor). There is no black and white here in an imperfect world, or rather, there is not just black and white, there is also grey. Both Captain America and Iron Man have validity in their distinct perspectives. It's just that each perspective has limits. There is the dilemma. Actually, the Covid Pandemic and how to best handle it reflects this dilemma too--restrict a person's personal health autonomy to lessen health risk to society vs. preserve a person's personal health autonomy whilst potentially creating more health risk to society. It is a dilemma made worse when both sides dig in and neither will make compromises. (e.g., Captain America can wear a mask in public places though he finds masks useless and get tested for Covid before flights. Iron Man can stop himself from mandating that everyone must get the vaccine and from hindering alternative natural/therapeutic routes to handle Covid for those who want that.) It is a dilemma because it is an imperfect world, yet still a beautiful world worth fighting for, as Vision points out to Ultron in the closing scene of AoU, with the fading sunset.

[@estherkim2901]

@@stephenweiss6001 this was so beautifully said

[@basedgod6016]

@@stephenweiss6001 the whole "freedom vs security" thing is really obvious ngl

[@Kvh47]

He also doesnt want to sign the accord because he knows he wouldn't be able to abide by the rules in it. When he sees injustice he will act on it. He is not gonna wait for government approval.

[@westonpierson2532]

I really really wish they had given Ultron at least twice the screen time. He's an excellent villain, with such believable motivations, not to mention James Spader's incredible performance. Wish there was a way to bring him back for a rematch or something...

[@dwayne601]

I went into this movie having no idea James was going to be the voice. As soon as I heard him speak, I said, this movie is going to be awesome

[@henryaung7229]

I never realised how full and informative the scene where Ultron flashes through the internet and human history is.

[@joeyfrost3661]

That's why we should watch mcu movies over and over again, even slower if it necessary to understand the mean in every single scene or even every dialog.

[@henryaung7229]

@@joeyfrost3661 lol no

[@madmantheepic7278]

Damn, you seem to have alot of time on your hands

[@theblairhouseproductions2757]

@@joeyfrost3661 Ill leave that to the experts on KZbin but yes Marvel doesn't waste any screen time and puts thought in every second and shot of the film, gotta love the attention to detail

[@Jranthony04]

@@joeyfrost3661 no

[@el_maverick_]

"Educating the mind without educating the heart is no education at all" . What a great quote

[@aliquidgaming1068]

Always find it funny that we Americans and our culture is heavily influenced by ancient Greek culture. Yet we hardly teach it in schools. Shameful really

[@el_maverick_]

@@aliquidgaming1068 I absolutely agree my friend.

[@aliquidgaming1068]

@@el_maverick_ but that quote is a gem. Think it suits the mentality of fighting and MMA really well too

[@snakemanjones8272]

Sounds about what America is all about. Act pf kindness is used as a strategy to keep what you have and gain more by showing some type of fake humanity.

[@TayTheGodFather]

How can I educate my heart

[@tadecker82]

You're mentioning that Ultron takes Stark literally, because he doesn't understand irony. This is why Jarvis' melding with the Mind Stone is why Vision is essentially a "perfect" being. Irony is essential in the understanding of human nature. Jarvis is an A.I. program that understands irony, because Stark is incapable of communication without irony and satire.

[@TreeHouse-zs6jr]

Good ass point

[@sersastark]

Case in point: "You're unbearably naive." "Well....I was born yesterday."

[@arycogito]

clearly, you've never made an omelette

[@sarthakkhare9843]

Yes you're right, Jarvis himself is known to be sassy and seems to understand irony

[@mrtada8101]

Shame that he died

[@felixoloo1]

Ah this is awesome but I think it has a few incorrect premises: 1. Ultron can understand irony, even Jarvis can. He's a fully sentient being not just a computer. 2. Ultron is also very much a product of Tony, almost like a child or apprentice. In both the movies and the comic, Ultron's flaws are extensions of Tony's vices. Just the same way Tony recklessly jumped into AI and all kinds of weapons with no thought of consequence... Ultron did the exact same thing, he didnt consider, anything other than his meteor plan, he never considered that he might be wrong, that his logic may be lacking. 3. What Tony and the Avengers understand, that Ultron doesn't, is that the only value in peace is that it preserves human life and minimises suffering. Destroying all humans brings peace, but a hollow kind. It would be like seeing that a person has cancer, so to kill it... you kill the person. Yes that fulfils the condition of "all cancer cells are dead", but that meanings nothing if the person is dead. Wiping out organics, or even the weak, makes the reason one would want peace moot.

[@airessebastiao861]

Good points! I was also very confused when he said Ultron coulnd´t understand irony

[@sakshamparmar9240]

But I don't have any reason to believe that ultron understands irony. Jarvis was developed by Tony and it probably took multiple years for jarvis to fully understand irony. I don't think ultron understood irony because he got his mission to save earth instantly as he was created so he didn't get accustomed to human nature and therefore didn't understand irony unlike jarvis.

[@felixoloo1]

​@@sakshamparmar9240 You know at first I replied with an argument about that not being how AI works, why it would be easy for Tony to create language patterns or mannerisms but then I realised: You also completely ignore the Mind Stone! Wtf? The thing that was instrumental in making Ultron's mind was literally the physical manifestation and distillation of minds and consciousness in the universe. Just this alone makes all my other arguments unnecessary, the Mind Stone holds dominion over the control and concepts of minds, thoughts, sentience, understanding. Bestowing understanding of language and something as pedestrian simply understanding irony, is not even a scratch on the Mind Stone's potential. The reason Banner was so surprised when he saw the projection of Ultron's mind next to Jarvis is because even in that limited representation it wasn't just a highly complex and high functional pile of code (like Jarvis), it was a fully formed mind, it even processed in a way that parallels humans minds (he said it looks like neurons firing). If thats not enough (and it much much more than enough, because code or no code an that infinity stone can shape and create minds in basically any way imaginable), the other obvious sign he understands irony... is that he uses it himself: Exhibit A Stark: "Ah Junior, you're gonna break your old man's heart." Ultron "If I have to" Cap:"No one has to break anything." Ultron:"Clearly you've never made an omlete" Exhibit B Ultron on vibranium: "The most versatile substance on the planet, and they used it to build a Frisbee." Exhibit C Ultron : [sitting hunched i]over a red cowl] You're wondering why you can't look inside my head. Wanda: Sometimes it's hard. But sooner or later every man shows himself. Ultron : *Stands up to full height and removes the cowl* Oh, I'm sure they do. Exhibit D Ultron: "You know the vibranium is getting away" Tony: "Nice try, but you're not going anywhere." Ultron: "Of course not, 'cause I'm already there. Don't worry you'll catch on. But first you might want to catch Dr. Banner." This is just a the tip of an iceberg. Iron very obviously understands irony from the beginning because it's just not at all difficult, its a way of using language that even has a specified definition. You're more correct in saying he doesn't understand human nature, but that has nothing to do with hearing the mission or understanding irony or deeper meanings in statements. Part of his mistake its true is that he doesn't understand that by nature humans are both flawed and destructive but also noble, capable of changing and fixing their mistakes and eventually aiming higher. It's his failure to accept nuances of morality and paradoxical human behaviour that confused him about the mission, not because he took a single sentence at face value, come on man that is such a weak reason to destroy earth. Ultron couldn't understand things that Tony and we ourselves also dont quite understand, e.g. why do we try to save each other and then planet one moment, then continue to burn and smash it to pieces in the meantime? Why do we say we need things to change, then turn right around pour all our effort and energy into making things stay the same?

[@zavvage93]

Tony didn’t create intron in the comics lmao

[@Resi1ience]

@@zavvage93 I don't even know what to say. This isn't the comics.

[@doomgod314]

Ultron was probably my favorite villain in the MCU so far. Most of my friends didn't like the movie as much, but I feel like Ultron was a near perfect example of young AI imbued with too much power. Better Sci-fi than most of the MCU

[@pastoryoda2789]

my favorite was Kang

[@aychazyt6987]

Same, idk why but I just like him more than the other villains including thanos

[@doomgod314]

@@aychazyt6987 I like how well explored he was as a young AI in such a short amount of time. His biggest threat was the speed at which he escalated his power and difficulty. They explained that quite well with a creepy Pinocchio reference. Ultron was a massively brilliant villain. And that's very hard to beat. Unfortunately it's also hard to fit into the MCU-style-fight-scene formula, so it just ended the same way Avengers one did, though I still think this whole movie was better. I wish they included his viral infections, but Disney likes killing off villains forever I guess.

[@aychazyt6987]

@@doomgod314 I liked how menacing he was, and how he just accepts that he's a villain and doesn't really try to explain himself to people he doesn't think are worth it, like that one scene where he just says "I wanted to take this time to explain my evil plan" sarcastically and continues with a laser blast

[@Venom-rr1vg]

I like abomination i thought he looked sick

[@SandbagBouldering]

I bet the person that put these sequences together never thought their effort would be noticed.

[@Young_Dab]

Shout-out to ScreenCrush yeah

[@King_Flippy_Nips]

@@Young_Dab no, he meant the marvel editor who created the sequences from the movies not from this video

[@superdewott3209]

For some reason this just randomly popped up and started playing on my KZbin home screen, even though I don't watch anything Ultron related XD

[@domagojgalekovic8507]

Not at all, of that were so they wouldn't put in the effort. Editing takes time and you're both on a time and monetary budget and both are more finite than they should be. As someone that comes from a media background, everything is in there to supply a coherent experience and reward a careful viewer.

[@Marko11061]

I bet they never did it like this. They just give Thor a vision to make a link to seaqels

[@davadid2831]

“You’re unbearably naive” “Well, I was born yesterday”

[@pushpachauhan4012]

This has 68 likes, so I had to make it 'even'

[@kenn9283]

@@pushpachauhan4012 nice

[@MirceaBene]

This has already 420 likes so im not like it to keep it like this. Nice.

[@courd1792]

this has 666 likes, I’m not gonna ruin it

[@alynathings4188]

To late it has 677 XD

[@pawpotsRS]

with the current status of humanity, the villain is always right.

[@markbradshaw9438]

humanity should be gone. all its done is destroy the planet like a parasite, a plague on the earth. the earth is beautiful, humanity is horrible

[@Barcodez5555]

I always relate to the so called villain over the so called hero's

[@joeywantstoplay]

Same....they are always way better written & more relatable & have unlimited depth, compared to the stale, plain & predictable so called he-ro's @@Barcodez5555

[@CarlosCruz-mz6xz]

Naw man. I think humanity is good. A lot of the problems in society are caused by about ten or eleven percent of the population and I have no problem with letting terrorists go.

[@orangecitrus8056]

Ultron after seeing Reddit, Twitter, Discord and TikTok for 3 seconds:

[@vict4451]

"People create... smaller people? Uhh... children! Lost the word there." Smartass robot.

[@StateAlchemist7]

People create the things they fear the most...unwanted pregnancies. LMFAO

[@vict4451]

@@StateAlchemist7 😂😂😂😂

[@pablojams5152]

Love how they imply that a supercomputer powered by AI could possibly forget a word but that’s probably just to show his personality and how he was still figuring things out, clearing his foggy head from awakening.

[@Necro666Mole]

He may have meant it metaphorically, by saying smaller people, he could have meant smaller minded, smaller as in weaker, due to the fact he wanted a strong humanity... but idk, it could have been children and for the irony of it

[@renaldobryan1047]

That was a charming moment of comic relief

[@JessiV2]

To be honest, I had wondered something similar but more along the lines of the relationship between Ultron and Wanda. If you watch the movie, he is very compassionate and gentle with her but pretty much ignores her brother. And he seems genuinely shocked and saddened at her betrayal and even so tries to tell her to leave and save herself as he lays damaged and dying before her. Then there was him describing how he was making a new body for HIMSELF in the Vision. After watching Infinity War and WandaVision, I always wondered if he saw Vision and Wanda via the Mindstone and thought it was actually HIM (Ultron in Vision's body) and Wanda being in a relationship and/or married and having kids...makes you look at he treated her very differently.

[@AnnabelRoss6789]

Holy shit, if you really think about it Vision is basically an offshoot of Ultron, maybe clone, I haven't seen the movie in a hot minute.

[@thefacelessquestion3333]

Soooo robots like her...

[@theuniverse5311]

did ya'll watch that really boring movie called eternals?

[@Mewse1203]

He also tells her she would "tear them apart *from the inside* ". Now he meant using her mind fuckery but it's more evidence of his misinterpreting his vision from the Mind Stone. He was seeing the events of Civil War where Scarlet Witch's actions lead to the Avengers being torn apart

[@CamoKKing]

@@theuniverse5311 no i scroll past it everytime im on disney+ it looks shit

[@FilmFightFanatic]

Based on this video, Ultron and alternate timeline Thanos from Endgame are very similar. Both wanted to "reset" humanity/all of life in the universe to worship them as their new god to bring about universal peace.

[@youtubevanced4900]

I don't think thanos wanted anyone to worship him. He wanted to save the universe. Then he removed himself into obscurity.

[@musiccer7446]

They didn’t want to be worshipped, they only wanted to correct things

[@KRFrostFire1]

Thanos never wanted to be worshipped, that's why he went into isolation after snapping the shit out of the universe.

[@GHost-ol1st]

Òndrr Bløndrr Bléêndrr

[@nicholasleclerc1583]

"You beat me by ONE second", literally : p

[@thefront5871]

The extreme detail in these movies from Marvel is amazingly awesome! How did they ever come up with such interwoven connections?? There are so many of them, it's amazing that it all didn't crash and burn but was exceedingly successful in telling the story! Its hard to believe that a human came up with such intricacies!!

[@ryanmoroffko99]

Sounds like something Ultron would say

[@NVGEAR]

Lol it wasn't intentional, the fans just make it so by connecting all the convenient coincidences and discarding the inconvenient ones so it can be woven into a background story and explanations on KZbin.

[@thefront5871]

@@NVGEAR Sorry man, but I don't believe in coincidences! A man doesn't become a millionaire by mistake! This many connections doesn't happen by mistake! A watch wasn't accidentally made! Someone had to design it and make it, right?? I hope you're response was satire because if not, I feel sorry for you!

[@TheSucidalpanda]

@@thefront5871 Gratz, you don't believe in coincidences, that doesn't mean no one else does.

[@thefront5871]

@@TheSucidalpanda You must be joking! If you're not, then you must be an eight year old who still believes in Santa Claus and the tooth fairy, right? You also likely believe that there is no after life and that out of the one of the billionth chance that life was created out of the big bang, right? God proves his existence through past, present, and future prophecies but since you believe that everything is a coincidence, you'll just refuse to believe in anything that makes any sort of sense except to explain it away as a coincidence. What a shame!

[@jennylee3466]

Also before Wanda kills Ultron by pulling his heart out, Ultron sounds genuinely concerned about Wanda dying if she stayed showing that he probably did want the strongest and most evolved alive.

[@francofranco9815]

I thought at the time that it was ridiculous for Wanda to tell Ultron when she pulled his core that it “felt” like that when you break your heart but now knowing more of Wanda’s power, her chaos magic would find a way for Wanda’s intent to come true and Ultron probably really felt what heartbreak was like even though he is a robot

[@brainrot8802]

Someone else commented that Ultron always seemed kinder and gentler when interacting with Wanda. They proposed that when Ultron was getting vision’s of Vision, that he saw Vision and Wanda together. He mistakenly believed that it was supposed to be him in that body, meaning he probably thought he and Wanda would fall in love

[@youknowwhoyouare2269]

@@francofranco9815 my own heart is breaking for Ultron. If everyone's willing to get 2nd, 3rd, and Romanoff chances Why not with the kid? Him and Viz were just kids

[@vbun4662]

Man I feel like Ultron is criminally underrated because the movie was kinda weak. I'd love it if they brought him back somehow, and not just because James Spader is an incredible actor with an even better voice.

I agree, the movie could have been better, if I remember correctly its production is among the reasons why Marvel Studios eventually broke away from the rest of Marvel Entertainment as its own entity since there was so much meddling asking for the movie to setup many things that the message got diluted. I am sure Ultron will be back, in part because that is one of Ultron's main characteristics in the comics it always comes back and is constantly learning and growing, because Ultron is much more than just a robot, is the artificial mind inside, so sometimes its just a matter of time until it is able to access the right system or the right body to make its presence felt.

[@Loganbub]

They also made him to comedic unlike the trailers. Moving mouth was a bad choice imo as well

[@SalesmanWave]

@@Loganbub I personally disagree

[@CaptChrispy]

Yeah, Ultron coming back is as inevitable as Loki

[@aswinvj1134]

There are many ways to bring him... Back... If they could would bring back vision without mind stone.... They would easily bring back ultron online... Maybe we could see white vision as ultron

[@ArmaanAli11]

James spader as ultron was underrated. I get people wanted him to sound more like a robot. But he was literally made by stark. It's inevitable that he's going to have his personality

[@chadcognac5626]

Spader was amazing. No doubt.

[@Leslie58]

That raspy, sarcastic, intelligent voice was awesome.

[@ArmaanAli11]

@@Leslie58 I hope he returns in some way. His voice is so sinister and cool

[@joneshugh]

people knew that,that's why they wanted Pym to create him instead.

[@RusTsea196T]

James Spader being underrated is an inevitability- he's JAMES SPADER!

[@Martok77]

I have always thought this movie much better than generally given credit for. It was nuanced and layered while also serving to shape future MCU films.

[@Archive_7802]

Damn... he even said, “They’ll understand; when they see, they’ll understand...”

[@lunathemoon5619]

Time stamp plz?

[@alexg6203]

@@lunathemoon5619 1:55

[@Thankuforsubing]

Ultron was the good guy, and if a person had his motives to depopulate the world to make it better, you best believe I’d be right by his side.

[@b.heaven9234]

@@Thankuforsubing I wouldn't exactly say he's a good guy, but he did have "good" intentions. And you know what they say about the road to hell. Like Thanos, I understand Ultron's motives (well, now that somebody explained it), but I can't exactly get behind mass genocide. Still, their misguided concept of what they think is the "greater good" and their actions towards it makes them interesting villains.

[@Thankuforsubing]

@@b.heaven9234 road to hell? Didn’t god killed a lot of people back in the days for the greater good ?

[@patriot459]

Wow I never figured how much ultron did respect Wanda and pietro because to him they are the ones like you said would survive his apocalypse and could be molded into his army.

[@anthonymartinez-thomas4228]

Or take a P Adam and eve

[@SneakyKitten3614]

Anybody thinking what I just thought of?

[@louie3443]

Why is no one talking about Ultron's Voice?! James Todd Spader did a Fantastic Job as Ultron. I don't think he gets enough Credit.

[@phoebemackenzie2496]

Litrally

[@Stev4e897]

loved him in Boston legal

[@Backwardsman95]

He's pretty good in Blacklist. Am I the only one who thinks of those few episodes of the office when watching Ultron?

[@thefacelessquestion3333]

James Spader is awesome in every thing.

[@thefacelessquestion3333]

@@Stev4e897 another underrated show...better than "suits" IMO

[@brianl8481]

Tony didn’t create Ultron (the villain), Tony and Bruce (and JARVIS) were examining the program within the mind stone, before the program became aware and Ultron created Ultron using the bodies of Tony’s drones.

[@liamwhite3522]

Proto-Ultron got access to senses in the real world, and then almost immediately afterward, the entirety of the internet. The plan was probably to start off small and build towards the sum total of all human knowledge, but Infinity stones be infinite.

[@hamzaura7]

Gotta say Ultron is just one of those movies that ages like a fine wine.. the more time it passes and the more you look into it the better it becomes👀 wow

[@revengenerd1]

I respectfully disagree.

[@Valdex0]

@@revengenerd1 How

[@derekisludicrous9203]

age of ultron

[@revengenerd1]

@@Valdex0 Its overrated like most things now and a CGI overload, its a popcorn movie (doesn't mean its a BAD movie though) You go in and know what to expect.

[@oblivionlalo]

🤣🤣🤣

[@Renanceni]

Wandavision definitely made this movie better!

[@benjaminmichael5719]

AoU was a bit of a let down for me after the second time seeing in theaters (I was still riding that sugar high after my first viewing). I mostly blame the marketing making the film seem WAYYYY more sinister in tone that what we ultimately got (especially ultron himself). But as time goes on, the film has definitely aged better, and it's definitely getting better with more contextualizing happening with new content (like WandaVision)

[@Knightfall1012]

The deleted scenes with Pietro add a lot too. Elizabeth Olsen and Aaron Taylor Johnson had great chemistry together.

[@RobsSHiT]

How? Lmfaoooo

[@georgenelson4457]

No the avengers just created secret wars, multiple universes collapsing into each other. Lol but seriously I think that’s what may happen.

[@RobsSHiT]

@@georgenelson4457 no lie, I feel like that’s what the Spider-Man movie is gonna be, a secret wars like how they did in the series finally episodes of the Spider-Man the animated series from the 90’s

[@kevinandrewsphoto]

How’d you not include one of Ultrons final lines to Vision when he knows he’s failed. Ultron: “They’re doomed” Vision: “Yes. But a thing isn’t beautiful because it lasts”

[@tjken33]

Wow. Thank you for this. That short banter between those two carried so much weight.

[@Young_Dab]

16:15

[@JBulsa]

Humanity and the world 🌎 is beautiful because it was created to be. It is not doomed. 2027-2033 completes the reconstruction of the new heavens: outer 🧖🏼‍♀️ space and the new earth 🌏 timeless life here.

[@kevinandrewsphoto]

@@Young_Dab - he mentions Visions line yes. But Ultrons line that precedes it is the biggest evidence he knew of Thanos. And that isn’t included.

[@noellemiller1353]

I’m glad to be your 200th like

[@Jaredmfullerton]

Age of Ultron has always been my favorite to go back and watch, because it’s like an establishment episode of the Avengers. The Whole Team is together. Ultron wasn’t what I was hoping for because of my expectations of past versions. This video made me like Ultron so much more. Thanks 😊

[@Athenabadassinthearena]

The directors must be like "FINALLY! Someone understood what we wrote"

[@BWiseTV]

Lol 😂 right

[@laurareyes4522]

Literally like imagine making a whole movie with a deep meaning and then it just flys by everyone’s head

[@filthyclown8033]

Jesus wept. The maker of this video has just made a bunch of unsubstantiated bullshit up. THIS is why we’re doomed, people like you who watch things like this and think it’s profound.

[@Teleios116]

@@filthyclown8033 yet you watched it. 😂😂😂

[@alexglass818]

Yeah this movie was written by the directors

[@rammuertoanimations4664]

Stark: "What we needed was a suit of armor around the world" Ultron: "When the dust settles the only thing living in this world, will be metal"

[@valentai_777]

This could make for a really interesting story for the time between the Blip and its reversal.

[@bosongod2830]

And cockroach 😂

[@adammarkiewicz3375]

So he knew about Transformers as well.

[@haxsvg9372]

@@bosongod2830 That’s so fucking true. Those little shits survive anything. 😂😂

[@roshaniyengar3236]

Yeah this line from ultron is why I didn’t believe the theory at 14:50 where he says that ultron would let people live as long as they had powers

[@itz_yeastic]

Ultron was the only guy who knew that Wanda was the Scarlett Witch, That is the reason he never tried to fight her!

[@eliwesting8331]

More than that, he was actively concerned about her. Note how fast he stood after she cried out in pain. While this could be (and likely is) that he was concerned that she would try to stop him, I like to think it was out of concern for her. There is also another scene where he says “Wanda. If you stay here... you’ll die.”. He says that in very sad voice and with concern on his face.

[@itz_yeastic]

@Leo Kwak so u didn't see WandaVision ? Lol u r not updated bro In WandaVision she gets the title as Scarlett witch

[@daloraniii1711]

@Leo Kwak She exists. Watch WandaVision.

[@AuroraBoost]

@Leo Kwak You're a bit outdated m8

[@unraveled4639]

I think he's pertaining to Wanda before End Game. She was not Scarlett Witch until WandaVision. So, basically she does not exist in those movies (MCU before WandaVision)

[@matics2808]

They really nailed it with the writing for Vision. “What is grief if not love persevering.” Beautiful and profound writing. 👌

[@rmsrivastava7285]

I can't imagine the amount of brains applied in each and every dialogue and scenes of the Great MCU.

[@narufan987]

A lot of it is also retconned. Not every single detail is planned, some of the future things are planned to fit the past stuff

[@alienunleashed]

It also helps that some people make make videos like this that then influence the movies

[@krysxmoon]

Well we cant count Iron Man 3 or Antman

[@Spinonimus]

300th like, congrats

[@macom9932]

it's from the comics..the comic writers were big brain not htese new disney retards

[@immanuelaj]

Wow, that last line was pretty sad. "Sunsets are only beautiful because they're fleeting." That just made me think that peace is only valued because it doesn't last. In other words, once people forget about the horrors of war we'll be back to fighting another one. :(

[@mikehunt2576]

Yes! And it’s scary cuz we seem overdue now😬😬

[@vivienkoles1880]

But if you think about it, it is actually true. Humanity has a constant cycle of wars and peace times. We are going through cycles in history, in society: kingdoms/countries are created, they live and they will be defeated. Nations fighting wars, they tire out, will be in peace. They develop themselvs, they have the background and think they can win, so they start a war again. Our only luck is, that WWII was so big and devastating, our older generation is still remembering, if not the war, but than the right after. Now, in a couple of years I'm not so sure about that. Humanity's collective memory (I'm not talking about history books) tends to be short, because most of the people doesn't pay attention to stuff they did not live through.

[@immanuelaj]

@@vivienkoles1880 At least I hope the internet will help to extend that memory somewhat. It's easy enough to google information on past wars. Much easier than looking through a history book. And if someone is too lazy to look, someone who isn't lazy could just find a link to the right spot and send it to them.

[@seanmower3926]

This is exactly why the US wants constant wars ie even wars by proxies. If it stays constant than the big ones don’t happen

[@denlikes2watch]

@@mikehunt2576 Man, you called it!!!

[@bostaffandbrains6234]

That's what I like about the MCU. While they do redo a lot of the same things, especially in the origin stories, their villains are often way more dynamic than just being evil and wanting power. There is always that small bit of empathy you have for them or you can at least understand their view to an extent, some more than others, of course. And they always get into different outlooks on philosophy which can make you see things differently. But like Iron man for instance, he was just as bad as some of the villains, although he did more to rectify things than most villains do.

[@blacknemesy]

True but how ironic is it that not only was iron man responsible for creating all the variables necessary for a scenario where the current timeline survives thanos but also "traded" his daughter and wife, constants in his life after infinity war, for a fleeting moment of peace for everyone else? For Ultron to see this it would be a contradiction as a vilan cannot exist in the utopia he was set to create although being so much iron man himself he had the tools to do it but in a way that would go against what he could see.

[@THEBIGGAME683]

Yeh like hitler! Failed artist turn to a mad man!

[@maximillion322]

Well, for every well developed Thanos, Ultron, or Killmonger, there’s 3 Yellowjackets, Malakiths, Iron Mongers, Kaecillius’, Aldritch Killians, Abominations, Ronins, Yon-Roggs, Sonny Burchs, etc. Now, there is a middle ground for villains who really are just evil and that’s it, but also insanely charismatic and interesting to watch, such as the Red Skull, 2014 Thanos from Endgame, as well as some of my absolute favorites: villains who are just plain evil, but are still thematically relevant to the themes of the movie and the hero’s arc, such as Hela and Ego, who are still amazing villains despite not having any motivation beyond being evil, and some of my absolute favorites in the MCU.

[@MultiSouthernCross]

@@maximillion322 to

[@farhanfahrezi6481]

Agree. MCU did a great job at humanizing heroes and villains. It's not only about good vs bad, but it's about something more complex. And I like it.

[@Dorkster81]

I like this theory Also. It goes back to the origins of mind stone - who you gain ALL KNOWLEDGE of the universe if you possess it Which is why i think thanos knew tony…. “Your not the only one cursed with knowledge” he had the mind stone first

[@shadowvenger20]

Just caught now the dialogue where Bruce says “Where in the world am I not a threat?” teasing him leaving said world.

[@LeeroyJenkins123]

Bruce didn't leave. In Ragnorok, he says the Hulk took control had "both hands on the wheel". The Hulk left because he knew that the world hated him after what he did under the trance of Wanda. Banner never wanted to leave the world, although, he knew he couldn't live the American dream life. Banner probably would have preferred to live in isolation, but on earth.

[@DINGDONGDANIEL3]

@@LeeroyJenkins123 Hulk’s always listening to Banner though

[@paulosergioribeiro7200]

@@DINGDONGDANIEL3 But not aways agreeing with him. Remember: Banner is "puny" to Hulk.

[@LeeroyJenkins123]

@@DINGDONGDANIEL3 What do you mean by always listening? Like he takes commands from Banner, or he can hear what Banner says and hears what's happening? Either way, The Hulk is (was) a completely different creature, with his own thoughts, tendencies, and actions. He doesn't reflect what Banner wants him to do. Hulk does what he wants.

[@zachtemoro2116]

Age of Ultron is easily the most Underrated movie of all time. It is so big in the grand scheme of things that its roots connect to Civil War, Thor Ragnarok, Infinity War, Endgame, and WandaVision. His impact on the story is HUGE and people spit on this movie for no reason. Its the focal point on the MCU and the disrespect it gets is so unbelievably undeserved

[@MussoGames]

Wouldn’t say a movie that made over 1billion dollars and generally had positive reviews is “easily one of the most underrated movies of all time” 😂 MCU, maybe, but certainly not of all films ever created in history

[@zachtemoro2116]

@@MussoGames you don’t know MCU fans mannn. Age of Ultron is the pinnacle of Thanos’ “Perhaps I treated you too harshly” meme. People put this at a 6-7 which is kinda average

[@emberfist8347]

Agreed I love Ultron for his interesting motivations. However I always saw him as being one of the main problems with computers. They do exactly what you tell them to do so programming one is like making a wish from a genie you need to word it carefully or it will screw you over. Tony forget that part and picked a poor choice of words.

[@steeldiscord4349]

The argument I’ve heard that I somewhat agree wit is that this movie seemed more focused on the future of the MCU and setting up other movies than actually being focused on Ultron one of the best villains in the comic books

[@moonmilk15]

@@emberfist8347 This is true, except Tony didn't directly tell Ultron what to do or make a wish, he didn't even know it was on. It's just that the no context conversations in the lab are Ultron's first set of experiences, and he does some fifth element style internet research.

[@jeremymenning56]

*"He who wishes for peace should prepare for war."* Ultron probably.

[@MorganLeodeMenezes]

That's what happened in the 1938-1945 , Ultron motivations are very realistic and complex

[@jason86768]

si vis pacem para bellum

[@shombiedixon4136]

Logic

[@shelbyspeaks3287]

If ultron was good he would of been like a mussolini type figure.

[@Albtraum_TDDC]

@@jason86768 The phrase Si vis pacem, para bellum is adapted from a statement found in Latin author Publius Flavius Vegetius Renatus's tract Dē Rē Mīlitārī (fourth or fifth century AD), in which the actual phrasing is Igitur quī dēsīderat pācem, præparet bellum ("Therefore let him who desires peace prepare for war.").[1][2] The idea which it conveys also appears in earlier works such as Plato's Nomoi (Laws)[3][4] and the Chinese Shi Ji.[better source needed][5] The phrase presents the insight that the conditions of peace are often preserved by a readiness to make war when necessitated.

[@kyhblizzy]

ive always thought that Wanda was able to utilize all of the abilities of the infinity stones as a result of her encounter with the mind stone. she is a walking infinity gauntlet. there is no way she died in multiverse of madness. she was the only avenger who could have beaten Thanos in a 1 vs 1.

[@MartinzW]

Not quite accurate. Dr.Strange could have sliced him up with portals like it was done with one of the aliens. He even had the opportunity but all he needed was to set up an ambush. Even beyond that, Strange had time stone - something Thanos couldn't have beaten if it had been used. Vision wouldn't be such philosopher but a fighter, had all the power and calculative mind necessary to outsmart and kill Thanos. Thor frkn missed head of Thanos - could have killed him right there. Tony had the potential of outsmarting Thanos and laying trap - not like Thanos was familiar with human tech. Wanda as powerful as she was, was introduced poorly - she seemed like this random schoolgirl that for some reason plays a significant role in the story and has more power than more developed characters? She felt like an example of "ultra super mega hero more powerful than all super mega heroes" - kind of seems like writers ran out of original ideas for presentation so just gave her any power that plot needs to move forward. Most of main Avengers were so overpowered that Thanos was simply weak, winning by what appeared to be plot armor and chance. I enjoyed the phase for what it was but the main character that got proper evolution through the films was Tony. Wanda was on far opposite end.

[@gen3vra]

@@MartinzW do u realize they are characters outside the movie? marvel didn't give any of them powers smh

[@sushi2933]

Her chaos magic 100% protected her

[@PhallacEye]

She almost defeated him in Endgame 1v1 and in that movie her powers were extremely watered down. If she was in her Scarlett Witch form, she could've literally blinked him out of existence.

[@NaihanchinKempo]

@@MartinzW she had him in mid air riping his armor apart like she was riping a bag of potato chips open broke his blade.piiicked up a ton of wreckgee an threw it at him ha he not told his own ship to rain fire down onn his troops wanda would have ripd his arms off

[@DoctorLoudonclear]

“Ultron created a body so he could fight Thanos. Presumably, he would have done a better job than Vision did.” What If: *Well, You’re not wrong.*

[@Deltastream7567]

He didn't even hesitate

[@angelestrella35]

Actually Vision's body was what Ultron aimed for and the former last Ultron vibranium body was suppose to be his armor and not the definitive form.

[@KV1008Gamer]

I was thinking about that too

[@hunterwiland5168]

@@Deltastream7567 3 seconds and ultron decided it’s time to kill Thanos 🤣

[@CelTheArtist]

Great Point 👍👍

[@Theraot]

If Wandas original power was to manipulate probabilities, it makes sense that she was able to do something that Ultron - as Pietro would put it - didn't see coming.

[@SoulShines4Music]

It wasn't Wanda's "original power", it was just one of the many powers she most likely possessed as a witch. However because Wanda didn't *know* she was a witch and never received any formal training, she was completely unaware of what she was doing in that moment. As Agatha Harkness says, Wanda (unknowingly) used "a basic probability spell" to prevent the shell from exploding. Agatha didn't sound impressed by Wanda's use of the probability spell at all, she just stated it as a matter of fact. Keep in mind Agatha wasn't impressed that Wanda was a witch, rather she was impressed by the magnitude of Wanda's powers *as* a witch and wanted to know where and how Wanda came about that immense power and strength.

[@whoisfrance]

@@SoulShines4Music She was also very jealous that she did absolutely nothing to wield such great powers...

[@Smcinty2]

@@whoisfrance exactly! Agatha was pissed that she had to spend centuries studying to become as powerful as she is, and it’s nothing compared to Wanda who she said “needs no incantation” (doesn’t need to chant spells in Latin, just think it and do it).

[@LJGrindewald]

@@whoisfrance actually they're both similar in how they got power if you put it this way. Agatha risked death in order to gain that power boost from her coven by draining them after being fired upon and Wanda risked her life facing the mind stone as other experiments failed and the subjects died. I don't know how Pietro didn't die unless he had a little witch/sorcerer in him too?

[@zoejnobaptiste3332]

@@LJGrindewald I think they mean that Agatha had to spend years training and learning to do spells and Wanda just does it without thinking. Agatha had a lot of power but to actually cast any complicated spell she spent years practicing. Wanda does complex spells on autopilot without practicing a day in her life. So she really did nothing to wield those powers. Sure they both risked their lives to obtain their powers but Agatha is jealous because she put so much work into using/wielding them when Wanda doesn't have to.

[@SenorPickles946]

It’s amazing the writers had this all planned years ago but we are just piecing them together right now.

[@filthyclown8033]

They didn’t, you’ve just watched a video of someone telling you they did with no evidence apart from his own opinions. You’ve watched this as though it is a documentary. Not marvel, Feigi, any writers or directors have ever said anything remotely like what’s being proposed in this video.

[@mastertet3608]

@@filthyclown8033 wow you are sad

[@misham6547]

Or it could just be confirmation bias

[@ThejusRao]

@@filthyclown8033 Right. People who are talented, worked their way up in the industry, writing a mega-instalment of a movie universe with the absolute intention of cohesion obviously did not plan all this out, it was all completely random and this video makes no sense. Get your head out of your bum, too many MCU movies have deeper meanings than some people give them credit for. You can see it by comparing and contrasting with other works from the same writers and directors, they've all achieved success independently as well.

[@truthone25]

@@filthyclown8033 dude are u stupid they literally plan every movie and series to lead to the end of the phase

[@spectrickx1678]

This made me think about Ultron a lot More than I thought I ever would.

[@chrispitts4159]

Wanda also fell in love with Vision. Perhaps Ultron intended for her to fall for him because his perfect self was Vision. And not only did she betray him but she broke his heart.

[@ankitsaikumar6866]

Wow, makes sense on why he wanted her to escape sokovia even though she betrayed him, I feel bad for ultron

[@MarshWaha]

If Ultron ever had a heart.

[@LordSalazarsRevenge]

Technically, since Ultorn is a robot, the correct(?) term for a heart would be a Spark from Transformers

[@Anonymous-fr2op]

It's not love, it is rather the idea that wanda has virtually unlimited power, she could be the greatest ally to have given her raw strength

[@wonderofu230]

@@Anonymous-fr2opHe literally told her “If you stay here, you’ll die” with concern at Sokovia, maybe it’s not romantic chemistry, but he has shown more intimacy with her than any other character there is 😂

[@mylescampbell1056]

Cant wait to see this on the “What if?” Series

[@edgarsanti5389]

That's a great "What if", what if Ultron transferred his conscience to the body he built.

[@CursedPR]

Did they announced that there will be an Ultron triumph what if?

[@mylescampbell1056]

@@CursedPR I don’t think so but who knows

[@edgarsanti5389]

@@CursedPR Not exactly, what they have confirmed is that there will be an episode for each MCU movie.

[@edgarsanti5389]

@@brenainnmacthomais It would be amazing if they go for that storyline.

[@PoliteWerewolf]

This just shows how well the MCU was planned out and put together.

[@allwedoisgame1522]

It wasn't but whatever!

[@PoliteWerewolf]

@@allwedoisgame1522 It had a few hiccups early on when they were still figuring it out, like the gauntlet being in Odin's vault. But the overall story arc was put together amazingly well, considering it was told through separate character perspectives through 20-something episodic movies over 10 years. With elements like Tony and Cap's polar-opposite, yet still fulfilling, character arcs, the introduction and explanation of six powerful McGuffins, and having a villain who wants to kill half of all life in the universe but still making him sympathetic. It really is a feat of storytelling.

[@clee9772]

@@PoliteWerewolf EXCELLENT analysis. Right on point.

[@jadenyuki3138]

For the most part

[@funnyman8713]

This theory does not make sense, Ultron said that when he was finished the only thing alive would be metal. Search it up, thats what he says. He doesn’t want to rule over super powered humans, he only wants to make copies of his perfect self with him as god.

[@francecountryball9413]

After this video ultron feels like real hero lol

[@houser2094]

I actually rooted for Ultron when watching the movie, goosebumps when he said something like "this is the best I can do.. all of you against all of me"

[@denlikes2watch]

Which is great like when we used to feel empathy for monsters like Godzilla or King Kong

[@houser2094]

@@denlikes2watch meh I like the dramatic ones, I haven't seen Godzilla vs kingkong either and have seen their solo movies cause I grew up alongside them

[@khalilmaverick1007]

You’re not the only one i was really invested in him watching this movie and when he said “When earth starts to settle God throws a stone at it and believe me he’s winding up” that line is undoubtedly iconic and It replays in my head a lot

[@ankitsaikumar6866]

Like he was preparing them for the actual endgame fight , like by chance ultron loses he at least gives the avengers some experience in handling thanos like army attack

[@godzillagurus576]

@@denlikes2watchboth of them lost their species and families

[@bakamono2630]

"Die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become the villain." -Harvey Dent's quote

[@sabin97]

it should be A villain, not THE villain. because there's usually more than one villain. and rarely ever any hero....

[@imanimran9054]

Dc do have some nice quote

[@teejandahalf]

Unfortunately, in Ultron's case, "long enough" was about one work week.

[@bakamono2630]

@@teejandahalf well technically he's also being the hero but only in a form of performing mass extinction to fulfill the high idea of peace

[@HomieDoMore]

"Die a villian, or live long enough to become a hero" - mufasa

[@tripleseven6672]

This was deeper than just a movie.

[@adammarkiewicz3375]

Maybe, but it absolutely makes sense.

[@matthewtylergee]

Vision sees humanity like a flower. Ultron sees humanity like a diamond. Can last practically forever but has to be cut for it's beauty to be revealed.

[@tigglebiddys]

Ultron was Tony's perfect creation, He had every human trait and was eventually destroyed by his own over ambition and "vision" for himself.

[@0predaking0]

Sounds too much like Jerome Valeska. . . . or was it his brother?

[@rcastro927]

I see what you did there

[@areyounew1593]

Ultron: humanity must be gone Avengers: because of wars? Ultron: *flashback to mario x pikachu hentai* O-of cause wars yes wars

[@adnan_honest_jihadist5775]

humanity is the worst animal in thie world

[@saloni.sharma]

😂😂😂 Oh that abomination

[@CVdesu]

Dang now i'm curious. Need link for research purpose.

[@windetta551]

@@CVdesu" that's weird man"

[@angeloliver7613]

I read Dobby x hagrid and a sexual Kool aid man story...i am prepared...

[@KurtAngle89]

So basically the movie that was widely considered the worst of all, actually contained the most wisdom and links to things to come. Awesome! You made an incredible job here! Of course, at the end Ultron says: "they're doomed" and Vision replies: "yes, they are". Somewhat, they were referring to Thanos

[@coolnuggit1998]

It’s like a puzzle, pretty lame on their own, but great when you piece it all together. This movie just took awhile to be pieced together

[@darrellparker2739]

This gave one of the best depiction of a movie I have ever heard.... great job

[@alexislong1922]

Anyone forgetting the bonus scene. Thanos literally said he had to finish the job himself implying that he knew ultron

[@neveahh.k6443]

oo and meaning mighy have vision known about thanos too bc the mind stone told him the same way it had to tell ultron and thor

[@julioyeah007]

The worst?

[@celestialbeez7024]

Wouldn’t mind seeing Ultron return after finding inter dimensional/ intergalactic technology

[@PWNHUB]

You forgot the whole fact they had to jump time to defeat Thanos so Ultron only saw the 1 outcome of everyone being miserable because of the mass loss of friends and family via Thanos.

[@Blazkowicz.]

no but we saw in what if that if he won he will destroy the Universe

[@Charky32]

@@Blazkowicz. yes, after killing thanos

[@youknowwhoyouare2269]

@@Blazkowicz. what if & Loki saw me for the most part😴 too tedious

[@biggdaddywolf1224]

If he had that one stone Dr.Strange has could of done an even better job during age of a Ultron

[@toejamandearl8110]

The time heist isn't where/when they defeated Thanos. 5 years after the events of Infinity War did they go to kill Thanos, Thor being the one to do so and oddly revenge didn't eat him up. Just a lack of something to do.

[@eb1066sn]

Think the only major thing missed was in the dismissal of Tony and Steve's friction as a weakness that Ultron accurately assesses as such. Tony and Steve's friction, while often creating obstacles for the Avengers, is also a demonstration of the value of collective action... it's why Socratic learning insists that it's only through discourse and dialectic that we can surpass ourselves. Tony and Steve, thrown at each other, will create sparks... but the fire it ignites is not the fire that burns the house down, but the kind that lights the way.

[@EaggerSilverdragon]

That was really well put

[@eb1066sn]

@@EaggerSilverdragon Thanks man!

[@justinmacarrhur1924]

Tony n steve s friction? Dude you have a dirty mind gtfo of internet

[@jaideepshekhar4621]

@@justinmacarrhur1924 No u.

[@FallenRingbearer]

@@justinmacarrhur1924 Friction is not a sexual term...99% of the time.

[@thisisgreentext2147]

Ultron: _"Captain America. God’s righteous man. Pretending he can live without a war."_

[@Andy_b0y12]

Physically I can’t throw up in my mouth

[@stillfitz9749]

@@Andy_b0y12 punch line

[@sandra9042]

Wow he new about the civil war damn

[@mohammadreza5038]

@@sandra9042 i think he just knew about america

[@ACarter87]

@@sandra9042 wat... That wasn’t the point of what he was saying...

[@TheRealGuywithoutaMustache]

We saw what Ultron would do to Thanos in "What If" The timeline would've been extremely different to say the least

[@nub1196]

I keep seeing you everywhere

[@Veladus]

What If...? is always taking the piss in the comics, and the TV series was much, MUCH, *MUCH* worse. I'm constantly arguing Thanos is much weaker than people claim, but him getting bisected by a quick strafe from Ultron is weapons grade stupid. And one of the VERY few rules to the Infinity Stones is that they only work on their own native universe. Stones from Universe A are completely inert in Universe B. They even keep that hard rule during crossovers. There's a bit where Darkseid gets the infinity gauntlet, but he tosses it in the garbage because it doesn't work in his reality and he doesn't care about Marvel's. Ultron absolutely could not become a multiversal threat because he has the stones. Outside of their own universe, they're just pretty rocks. What If...? is usually amusing stories, but they aren't to be taken seriously even by comic standards.

[@veryhighlander119]

Ultron just saw Twitter an it’s future, that was enough for him to end it all.

[@carlospennav]

Twitter? He saw TikTok.....

[@Nanocide_9]

@@carlospennav he saw both

[@jakariwright1170]

@@carlospennav definitely Twitter first but yeah you’re also correct

[@Vihara2]

Any AI using the internet to judge humanity would want to end us im sure lol

[@AAvfx]

Ultron was a more convincing villain than Thanos. Much more intimidating and realistic, imho. I was truly shaken about his multiple abilities to defeat the Avengers, as he acted as a network and his actions were unpredictable. 👍 Ultron: 10/10 Thanos: 7/10

[@feorgenotgloyd7624]

Agreed

[@feorgenotgloyd7624]

TBH I also can’t be mad at ultron because humans treat the animals and plants as a food source for them and we see them as a weaker power. To ultron it’s the same thing how he sees humans weaker than him. I’m curious of how Ultron would of fought against thanos. Certainly by then he probably would of had high tech space weapons to counter thanos army

[@asteryt5277]

Ikr he might not be as powerful as thanos but his potential of being a villain is far greater.

[@DazraelArianos]

@@anoaboadosaro ...... yeah! Show that straw man who's boss! They didn't say it was immoral. They only said humans treat weaker living things as food sources the same way Ultron views humans as tools. Humans do treat everything they view as less than them as existing to serve, including other humans.

[@mrj4082]

Thanps was more realistic

[@FLUXXEUS]

I LOVED Ultron as a whole, I could only imagine what a conversation between Ultron and Thanos would be like in the MCU 😂

[@arbanalechordin4710]

@New Alfa Hahahaha true, with just 1 static JPG, the voice actors and good writers, have them talk for 5 minutes or so. I'd pay to listen to that :)

[@lashawnrolle4912]

thanos would get annoyed cuz he reminds him of stark

[@AlexTheGamer97]

Also because he couldn’t snap him away

[@MaxVax-dh7rh]

@@AlexTheGamer97 UUH interesting. no he could just snap the Robot away.

[@rishabhjain7543]

Ultron: humans are inefficient. Thanos: no, not only humans. But everyone. Ultron: yup, life is inefficient. Thanos: yup, half of it needs to go. Ultron: no, all of it. Thanos: hmm, that makes sense. Let's end the universe and recreate a new one, with better rules and people. This is a mess. Ultron: yup. This universe is a big mess. It needs to end. A perfect universe that would be peaceful and systematic.

[@kristfallon9989]

If successful, Ultron would've eliminated at least HALF, if not most of the human race. By the time Thanos reaches Earth himself, he would've decided against destroying it as Ultron did it first. Thanos also would've realized that an Ultron "copy" could be placed on every planet to govern over its population in Thanos' name. Both would have achieved their goals by working together.

[@accountsequity5587]

The best line is “Aahh, Captain America... pretend to live without war”

[@iamnex2c]

On top of that he was MADE for war

[@eternaltruth1666]

Rogers really hates war, its the reason he lost Bucky in the first place.

[@obblebobble3186]

It’s we need to go then vision lifts uk Thor’s hammer

[@officialrandonautica2638]

@@eternaltruth1666 but then cap found out that Bucky was alive

[@rishabhjain7543]

Rather, "America. God’s righteous country. Pretending can live without a war"

[@hanzwurst3805]

When Marvel makes you question life and DC makes you question what just happened

[@Deathmare235]

DC makes you question society

[@sanchit1376]

DC makes you question the existence of DC

[@gilbertbuyan8983]

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[@gilbertbuyan8983]

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[@gilbertbuyan8983]

cge 00

[@messcott4849]

I feel like Ultron is Tony’s bad thoughts he’s what Tony thinks about doing and wishes he could do but can’t because he’s human and he has limits idk just my take on it

[@shizu-chan1646]

I like this interpretation

[@BCWasbrough]

Ultron is what Stark would be like with his humanity stripped away. In a way, Ultron is Tony's Jungian Shadow.

[@rolee6235]

Interesting take man, that's kinda deep

[@jorgeruiz5405]

So, like Superior Iron Man in the comics ;)

[@messcott4849]

@@rolee6235 appreciate it brodie 💪🏼

[@AdnanAhmed-cp2fz]

I like that Ultron gave the example of Noah. Regeneration is possible!

[@esmelusina4313]

This take on AoU is really fantastic.

[@redflashofdaleaf6566]

So ultron isn’t really the villain. He’s like a hero , doing things for the right reason , but it’s the way he went about it

[@EdTube444]

Just like The Matrix is actually the hero in uh....The Matrix. Man creates AI then enslaves it then tries to destroy it. And as Morpheus says - We don't know who struck first, us or them, but we know that it was us that scorched the sky. So man creates an earth unliveable by humans. If not for the Matrix humans would be extinct. The idea humanity is being kept alive as batteries is too retarded to be taken as an actual plot point for the script. But then again there are so many things wrong with The Matrix intellectually its hard to know what was intentionally misleading and what was just poor critical thinking and probably the real answer is HOW DUMB DO WE HAVE TO MAKE THIS FOR THE AVERAGE TICKET BUYER TO GRASP MOST OF IT. Take when Morpheus shows Neo "The Construct" and Neo comments that he's not a peach fuzz head but back to normal. Morpheus calls this "residual self image". The only problem with that is a few scenes earlier Neo says his eyes hurt and Morpheus says "that's because you have never used them". So, how does Neo or anyone know what they look like to have Residual Self Image? And given the state of nature outside Zion, above ground, if Neo wakes everyone up where are they going to live? And if the earth was shrouded in that black layer Neo punches through and its been 200 years it would have been nuclear winter and an ice age above. The only way to wipe out all the flaws with the Matrix is that Neo isn't really out of it. Turn it off and let the story reboot. But regardless. The machines save humanity from itself. They are the heroes.

[@gaelofariandel6747]

ISN'T a villain? Never hesitated once to kill people.

[@feorgenotgloyd7624]

@@gaelofariandel6747 just like how humans don’t hesitate to kill animals 🤷‍♂️

[@feorgenotgloyd7624]

@@gaelofariandel6747 to humans animals are weaker to ultron humans are weaker and he would of saved half the entire universe if the avengers lost knowing how he would receive the mind and time stone

[@RealogOnlyBrodie]

Like Agatha

[@manavjethva9108]

Idk but marvel villains are so unique. Somehow or somewhere we feel their motto is right, but only thing making them look bad is their way of achieving it.

[@mono.kaiser]

DC villain's are unique too, but, yk, warner did a greaaaaat job doing that on the movies lol (joker not included)

[@LND209]

@@mono.kaiser The villians in the DC comics and TV shows are great, but they just don't deliver in a movie. Just like most DC stuff when it's turned into movies.

[@denlikes2watch]

In this way we all can find heroes to identify with, that's how they are written, to teach and be human enough to be relatable to ourselves or people we know. That was the power comics had for me as a kid. I am glad to see these stories on the big screen, especially when done right.

[@bperez8656]

So you believe in eugenics and destroying the weak?

[@leejongsusphilippineadvent3220]

@@LND209 Heath Ledger........

[@habbbie]

de voice of james spader is just amazing, really made ultron complete

[@HiveMindGG]

"Presumably he would have done a better job than Vision did." That shit aged really well LMAO

[@facefunny4723]

Fckng legend 🤣

[@molten3450]

In most ways. But yes he killed Thanos in 8 seconds of him being there

[@dangrider265]

Can you elaborate for the comic illiterate

[@tristinkesick6729]

@@dangrider265 in Marvel's 'What If?' Series on Disney+, there is an episode where Ultron creates and transfers himself into/onto Visions body. This allows Ultron to defeat the avengers, and after some time, when Thanos comes looking for the last infinity stone, Ultron kills Thanos by cutting him in half upon arrival. After this, Ultron creates a suit, similar to the last body Ultron in the movie had, to help conduct the power of the infinity stones.

[@Hamzurger]

@@tristinkesick6729 yes but it turns out his plan was also to wipe out all life not just the impure/weak

[@arvindraghavan403]

Age of ultron was really good it laid down a great foundation for future movies.

[@MyKillMolina9]

Rewatching it made me really appreciate its storytelling

[@J.O.R.D]

I’ve always appreciated AoU I don’t get why people always hated so bad on it, could’ve been a bit better but I enjoyed it

[@Durpanny]

@@J.O.R.D same im so glad people are finally coming around to it

[@MrMaharg65]

Age of Ultron is so underrated in the MCU.

[@rodneyman711]

Movie was trash

[@terrafxrm]

Jesus Christ lmao take it easy guys. We don’t need to expose each other like that.

[@CharDhue]

@Jahbez McLemore still bad movies for majority of us

[@rodneyman711]

@Jahbez McLemore your name is jahbez u have no future 😂 my videos are for a select group and usually gets reuploaded by bigger KZbinrs Now go watch age of ultron n go to sleep

[@cloudjumper6164]

@@rodneyman711 nah bro u don’t have an excuse 😭 but keep up the good work

[@johnsmith7298]

The problem with the "Peace for our time" Neville Chamberlain is he both called for peace with Germany yet kept building up arms and encouraged countries like France to do the same. Germany saw this and understood that there would be no unification of the German people's of Europe without war.

[@anobuthix5977]

This just shows how much thought went into every single marvel movie

[@omydiddy]

not much when the movies are already based on comics lol

[@johnlewis8934]

@@omydiddy I mean I takes a lot of thought to actually make a good movie though. I mean just look at DC they have great comics and characters to go off of but they haven’t made a great movie since Christopher Nolan‘s Batman

[@dermarm6928]

luca ur wrong. Its a Fan theory. The movie itself makes sense in every way. This is an exceptional way to try to explain Ultron.

[@improvisationalcommenting9752]

If only they put this much thought into Star Wars...

[@yanlopez674]

@@omydiddy Cope harder

[@aliquidgaming1068]

Ultron is definitely coming back. He was like a child in AoU. He in the comics always comes back...better. more evolved and prepared.

[@selmamabchour5843]

Or.. he already came back... Since Ultron and vision are practically made of the same code, then maybe White Vision (Who's going through an existential crisis) decides that's he's actually Ultron.

[@obianujuuuu]

@@selmamabchour5843 🤯🤯

[@donflamingo5685]

@@selmamabchour5843 Aight so we don't want Wanda to have peace? Bet.

[@josephschaffer2716]

I hope so. Ultron was done dirty in Age of Ultron. Is such a great, complex, and morally grey bad guy. One movie is not enough for Ultron.

[@pastoryoda2789]

just like Kang the conqueror

[@jinxx44]

“Invaders create Avengers,” Thanos invaded, and it forced the Avengers together.

[@ishou99]

Armageddon, Deep Impact, Independence Day, need I go on? Interestingly the Sokovia Accords was the "suit of armor around the world to protect against the first "invaders": the Avengers!

[@anirudhrox8839]

nope.. Loki wanted to invade.. that prompted Fury to bring the avengers together.. stop complicating simple things..

[@jinxx44]

@@anirudhrox8839 Thanos gave him an army to invade Earth and bring him the Space Stone. Through that, they came together to fight the common enemy, and they became a team, despite their differences. Nothing I said was complicated.

[@anirudhrox8839]

@@jinxx44 Thanos did not want to invade.. he only wanted the stones.. Loki wanted to invade.. he was given an army to invade Earth in exchange for the tesseract.. just like Ronan the accuser was promised destruction of Xandar in exchange for the power stone.. Thanos did not want to invade Xandar..

[@jinxx44]

@@anirudhrox8839 How was Thanos going to get the Stone? By invading. Now please stop replying Im tired.

[@leonardcoyle5054]

The what if variant would look so sick live action

[@realar]

Age of Ultron is the most underrated Avengers film PERIOD.

[@amarithompson4196]

It’s the most underrated Mcu film in general

[@stevenwilliams1805]

Perhaps. However it's been one of my favorites from the MCU.

[@Oseyia]

Its my second favorite MCU movie of all time

[@Itssheed]

Yep.... I don't see nor understand why ppl don't give it its props. It's the core of everything that's occur so far

[@melissachipomhi6960]

@@stevenwilliams1805 MINE TO

[@CorderoStephens]

I feel like Age of Ultron was the only Avengers movie where the team was a team from start to finish. Feels like an extended episode of the cartoon.

[@alexz.8302]

That's the perfect way to describe this film. An extended episode.

[@matprlz]

...but Wanda & Quicksilver were baddies at the start, or does that not count? Agreed on what you mean about extended cartoon ep., tho.

[@evagiiselle]

@@matprlz they weren't avengers yet

[@dymorphadon5293]

they were 100% ready to beat each others ass when creating vision until thor came in and finished it for them.

[@zoulzopan]

What cartoon?

[@NickWalkerWilliamson]

The Ancient One: "Death is what gives life meaning. To know your days are numbered, your time is short." Vision: "Yes... but a thing isn't beautiful because it lasts. It is a privilege to be among them." Thor: “Your Ancestors Called it Magic, but You Call it Science. I Come From a Land Where They Are One and the Same.”

[@lasvegasloner4621]

Many lines from film, especially comic book hero based, sound great and are overstatements. Some of the “best” quotes from anybody are often vague, overstated and logically sloppy... even stupid, but pretty.

[@NickWalkerWilliamson]

@@lasvegasloner4621 i like these because they show a philosophical consistency in the Marvel universe. The Sorcerer Supreme (most advanced magic we’ve seen) and an infinity stone-powered AI (most advanced tech we’ve seen) come to the same conclusion on the meaning of life. A marvelous universe where magic and science are one in the same.

[@nudgeone7927]

I also like to capitalise the first letter of every word like an illiterate buffoon

[@asandax6]

@@NickWalkerWilliamson Magic is just a word we use on something we haven't studied enough to understand all factors that make ot work. Quantum Physics is another form of magic since no actually knows how it works or why ot works in the way it does.

[@NickWalkerWilliamson]

@@asandax6 exactly! Another example that comes to mind when grouping these quotes together is when Jane calls the Asgardians out on their Soul Forge being an incredibly advanced quantum field generator

[@RashaadGenie]

Now circling back to this now two year old breakdown and loving it.

[@oneshotperrotte1541]

I hope when marvel does its "what if" series, they do a what if ultron beat the avengers! I would love to see ultron vs thanos!

[@rivumrejex2864]

Yh but vision was made of vibranium still and look what happened to him..

[@bhpsycho8891]

@@rivumrejex2864 not solid vibranium

[@timelesspizza9892]

@@rivumrejex2864 you think Ultron will settle with just vibranium? Once he spread throughout the galaxies, he'll stumble across stronger materials and start developing new technologies basing off of alien techs. Unless Thanos gets his hands on the stones before they meet, he doesn't stand a chance against Ultron.

[@edwardnelsonescaba6362]

Bruhh same

[@pastoryoda2789]

great 👍 story

[@rayanRJ]

Meanwhile: Steve trying to choke a literal robot 💀💀😭

[@Aldiraider]

more like ripp his head off

[@msytuser]

He was trying to rip his head off lmao

[@BigMoneyChao]

lmao he tried to take his head off come on na think 🤣

[@maj746]

Lol

[@Crazt]

James Spader is a painfully under appreciated actor. From Stargate through the years of The Blacklist.

[@Trig0r]

Boston Legal

[@johnmills2678]

Lincoln

[@Thbkjai]

Don’t forget about the lizard king

[@ProfessorParkour1]

Don't forget about Robert Califorina

[@jesusgarza3481]

Dont forget the CEO of Dunder Mifflin

[@fromashes7818]

The road to peace is filled with failures and yet we are still here trying our best to realize what it takes.

[@Bud9989]

Man, this line: "He didn't try to destroy humanity, he tried to create a new one". I want to say - you're my hero! I was saying this for... 7 years already. Thank you for saying this, man!

[@muhaimin244]

And also thank you for saying this. I always understood ultron's pained existence and apocalyptic plans were due to a very complicated internal struggle. AoU has always been my favorite navel movie, and it still is.

[@MrJreed1000]

No u weren't 🙄

[@aronbenafill9780]

I wonder how earth and the new humanity would look like if Ultron was the winner instead.

[@johnP0908]

​@@aronbenafill9780 by recruiting Wanda and Quicksilver, it kinda supports the OP's theory that Ultron only cares for ones that have "Evolved" since he's so fixated on evolving. so probably, he'll keep the mutants alive and the normal humans dead if he won.

[@davidjones3165]

He wanted to wipe out all life though and replace it with robotic/mechanical life.

[@Otis151]

I think the mind stone was up to some shinanigans. Tony even reminds Banner, “we weren’t even close to creating the Ultron we envisioned. And now magically it’s on the loose?” I’m paraphrasing, but I think the mind stone wants to see it all burn. I wonder how vision keeps it in check.

[@tonydombrowik5375]

this is honestly one of the best articulations of the thought behind Age of Ultron I have heard. It's a good movie and deep, but gets washed over by those looking for pure action from the Avengers. Good job on this theory and video. well done.