Semi-Automatic Yamaha MT-09 TESTED! | Y-AMT REVIEW

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@sancoblanco
@sancoblanco 3 ай бұрын
People are always hating on new things. If you don't like it, don't buy it. World and tech moves on! Personally I think it's a great opportunity for people with disabilities, if you are missing a hand (perhaps an arm), this can be a way to ride a bike again. Even older people who just want to ride, have fun and don't eff around with clutch anymore.
@FortyFourTeeth
@FortyFourTeeth 3 ай бұрын
Exactly this
@poonchild
@poonchild 3 ай бұрын
Yes and no. Tech moving on also represents the transition from ICE to battery propulsion. Are you going to buy an electric scooter for your next bike?
@reverendhoover
@reverendhoover 3 ай бұрын
This isn't targeted at disabled people, as that would be a tiny number. Instead this is targeted at people who might be put off buying a motorcycle by having to use a manual gearbox and clutch. The motorcycle companies are seeing their user base erode over time, as we all get older and shuffle off, and are looking for replacement customers.
@JoeStanek-vu7rl
@JoeStanek-vu7rl 3 ай бұрын
​@@reverendhooverand those people do not belong on a bike that does zero to 60 under 3 seconds.
@mickl8212
@mickl8212 3 ай бұрын
I agree
@browners_28
@browners_28 3 ай бұрын
My left foot is f@@ked and I’ve been waiting for this!!!! OMG very excited
@browners_28
@browners_28 3 ай бұрын
If they make an R1 I’m instantly sold…… Had a 4c8 back in the day
@kennethwilson9710
@kennethwilson9710 3 ай бұрын
you could always get a clicktronic actuator and autoblipper fitted to an R1. You would still have a conventional clutch but it will move the gear changes to the bar.
@silotx
@silotx 3 ай бұрын
@@kennethwilson9710 Don't you lose the warranty if you do that on a new bike? Also what is the cost for that kind of mod?
@mathias6423
@mathias6423 3 ай бұрын
@@silotx Can you even buy a brand new R1 for much longer or if they already stopped selling them ? And if so what warranties do you have on a track only R1 which I guess they will keep selling for a while just like they did with the R6 ?
@LowQualityPigeon
@LowQualityPigeon 3 ай бұрын
​@@mathias6423they are still selling the R1. If I'm not wrong they are halting the production in 2025 but still the manufactured bikes will be on sale. Correct me if I'm wrong here.
@tylerandiemichael159
@tylerandiemichael159 3 ай бұрын
I've been waiting on you to review this bike. I use a manual wheelchair and this will make it much easier and more reliable to get on the track. We always have to make custom power shifter setups for my bikes and they never work all the time. Hucking it into a corner on a hard downshift is not the time for your shifter to not work. Thanks guys!
@atiq982982
@atiq982982 3 ай бұрын
Glad it helps u, but the rest of us don't need or want this so i hope this doesn't replace what we are all used too
@valebliz
@valebliz 3 ай бұрын
As a physiotherapist I’m glad for you, as a motorcyclist I hope manual boxes stay where they are.
@elder_millennial_Fboy
@elder_millennial_Fboy 3 ай бұрын
@@atiq982982 well if they're outselling traditional manual shifters, it seems a lot of us do want and need it.
@richardcerritelli9657
@richardcerritelli9657 3 ай бұрын
​@@atiq982982 What are you talking about the rest of us don't want it are you speaking for me SMH 🤦‍♂️ I hate a clutch I want an automatic and a lot of other people do too don't talk shit unless you know what you're talking about that's why they're coming out with automatics dingbat because the Honda's dct and I'm not handicap I just hate clutches.
@hairyferrit
@hairyferrit 3 ай бұрын
The other thing you can do is move the rear brake up to your left hand where the clutch would have been.
@AdamBrowne-eg1eb
@AdamBrowne-eg1eb 3 ай бұрын
I used to criticise quickshifters, until i rode one and now i love them...being able to shift at lean without upsetting the bike is great. No doubt this tech will be a great option for many.
@stephenclarke6114
@stephenclarke6114 3 ай бұрын
My thoughts exactly
@andyexuptaylor4503
@andyexuptaylor4503 3 ай бұрын
Tell what they are crap for wheelies through the gears
@BobSacamano-dy3wg
@BobSacamano-dy3wg 3 ай бұрын
You can shift when leaning without a quickshifter, it's just a matter of clutch control.
@dreamcrusher112
@dreamcrusher112 3 ай бұрын
@@andyexuptaylor4503 3 inches off the ground and it's license lost, i'll keep the quickshifter and forego the wheelies.
@AdamBrowne-eg1eb
@AdamBrowne-eg1eb 3 ай бұрын
@@BobSacamano-dy3wg was waiting for someone to say this 😂 it’s just nicer with a QS but yeah they are shit for wheelies through the gears…haven’t messed about with my settings but making it require more input to shift would definitely help that. Anyway they’re illegal 🫣
@paulhope3401
@paulhope3401 3 ай бұрын
Not for me.. but if it allows riders with dissabilities to ride again I'm all for it. Think I prefer Hondas E-clutch system though.. as it can also be used conventionally as a normal manual.... which wont affect its consumer base size and wont make it a niche bike.
@iamtherealzombie
@iamtherealzombie 3 ай бұрын
As long as it remains an option, I don't care if they introduce this stuff, I'm sure someone will find it useful/appealing. As soon as it starts being the only transmission offered, count me out of that product lineup.
@jimporter
@jimporter 3 ай бұрын
The question is when will Honda put the same automation in a non-DCT bike, with e-clutch, finger controls and a foot shifter. That would be easily done and would make everyone happy.
@125ZJK
@125ZJK 3 ай бұрын
Honda's been killing it for over a decade with their DCT on bikes from the Forza 750 upto Africa Twin/NT1100. Their sales figures can't be denied ! I'm pleased other manufacturers are joining the party. I think dct riders ll love it.
@paulhope3401
@paulhope3401 3 ай бұрын
Honda now have a new E-clutch system too... check it out.
@wobblysauce
@wobblysauce 3 ай бұрын
Eclutch is on the 650, atm and it way better then any DCT.
@jimporter
@jimporter 3 ай бұрын
@@wobblysaucethey do different things, e-clutch isn’t automatic shifting, yet!
@andygeorge6065
@andygeorge6065 3 ай бұрын
I do indeed... (NT1100 DCT)
@steve908
@steve908 3 ай бұрын
This Yamaha set up adds little extra weight to the bike unlike Honda DCT which is heavy. Will be an advantage for lighter built or disadvantaged /disabled riders.
@NickyLong89
@NickyLong89 3 ай бұрын
I have an 07 blade which i love, i went and tried a DCT Africa Twin and it is soooo goooooood! At no point did i wish for a manual, the various different modes made it very easy to switch between your riding moods. Incredible. If it was in my budget, id buy one all day long.
@Nerezza1
@Nerezza1 3 ай бұрын
Absolutely brilliant for handicapped riders
@ianm432
@ianm432 3 ай бұрын
I'd rather see automatic motorcycles than trikes...
@FortyFourTeeth
@FortyFourTeeth 3 ай бұрын
😂
@NiSE_Rafter
@NiSE_Rafter 3 ай бұрын
I think it's cool. Not something I'd personally purchase but kind of similarly to the honda DCT it makes motorcycling a lot more accessible to people and I'm all for that.
@ericaworthington2675
@ericaworthington2675 3 ай бұрын
Not just "gentlemen" might be interested in this. Some of us older, experienced girls have wrist issues that make clutching painful, especially in traffic. Also, after riding and enjoying my electric moto, I wonder why some "traditionalists" don't even question the "need" for gears and clutch on motos, when we've lost them in cars years ago.
@domp51
@domp51 3 ай бұрын
Bought a africa twin last year and test ride the auto one, it was absolutely amazing and I completely fell in love with it. I got a manual though with a quick shifter as I could not live with the shame. No regrets...or not many. Definitely in the future tho.
@silotx
@silotx 3 ай бұрын
There is no shame , for many people an automatic is more enjoyable. Once i got my first DCT bike a NC750 and learned how to use it properly i couldn't go back to a normal clutch since i am much faster on a DCT now and it is so much better in the city. The only problem is that if you wanted an automatic you had to choose honda and only a few nice but boring bikes , now there is more competition.
@kevinturner6888
@kevinturner6888 3 ай бұрын
@@silotxexactly, I own an NC750X DCT and have been waiting for more manufacturers to join in 🤠
@Alex-if3sr
@Alex-if3sr 3 ай бұрын
why doyou care what others think? You ride for yourself or for others? I have just purchased a dtc crf1100l and couldnt care less what anyone else thinks. Its not like i cant ride manual. Im just sick of constantly changing gears in city traffic, my left hand starts getting cramps, especially when its traffic you cant filter through.
@russcattell955i
@russcattell955i 3 ай бұрын
@@Alex-if3sr One of my mates has a AT w DCT too. Once used to it he really likes it.
@domp51
@domp51 3 ай бұрын
I care as I'm still young enough to have a pitiful sense of worrying what others think, esp my mates. One day I'll be old and wise enough to not give a shit about a fat gut, Auto bike or driving a honda car. I kind of look forward to that day.
@LilGote
@LilGote 3 ай бұрын
Honestly, the best implementation I’ve seen of it
@Nightingale1887
@Nightingale1887 3 ай бұрын
My left hand has permanent damage due to getting rear ended, so it's perfect for me... and good to see some more options to challenge the Honda DCT dominance.
@bazza8947
@bazza8947 3 ай бұрын
I really like this idea as it could help people with injuries be able to ride again safely. Brilliant for commuters as Al said in the vid too.
@stephenp4563
@stephenp4563 Ай бұрын
I decided to test ride this while my SP was having its first service. I agree with Fagan; I liked it a lot more than I expected to. I took it for a city ride, which is the natural home of the automatic system - one thing I've not seen any reviewer mention is that the automatic mode only works with engine mode 3 which is basically the rain set-up - but if all you're doing is hopping from light to light then the automatic mode is very relaxing. In manual mode, I really liked it. One thing though; your left hand is very busy, and I say this as someone who ought to be used to the new indicator system by now as it's the same on the SP. I think I hit the horn three times when trying to shift down. I'm sure the muscle memory would get there in the end, but even so, it's a lot of buttons. For me, they could have dropped the clutch and just kept the foot shifter for manual shifting (basically the quickshifter in manual with an automatic option). Overall though I liked it a lot more than I thought I would, and I think that Gen 2 will probably be a big step up. For me, the worst thing about the bike was the suspension because I was coming off the SP, if that gives some idea.
@Mr---mr4ll
@Mr---mr4ll 28 күн бұрын
looks like at the age of 40 and about to do my mod 1 and 2 in a month, this tech has come at the perfect time... im not a die hard biker (yet) and the peace of mind and ease this tech brings will allow many more people get into biking and riding bigger bikes.
@Brian_R6
@Brian_R6 3 ай бұрын
I own a Gen 2 and commute to work occasionally. I could see this being much more relaxing to ride especially on a sleepy morning or after a long day. Much easier too when you're in 6th approaching a red light but then it goes green and u gotta downshift from 6th to 2nd to build back speed. This combined with the cruise control 🙌 👌
@Scouse.Malinois
@Scouse.Malinois 3 ай бұрын
Wonder if it'll make it harder to rob bikes🤔 if it won't roll unless switched on?
@MadChalet
@MadChalet 3 ай бұрын
"... the clutch is an underrated part of the ride ..." Yes I'm old, as I started riding back in the day of points ignition, so I appreciate the 'involvement' of working a clutch and shift lever. I also like working on my bikes, from cleaning & adjusting the chain to checking valve clearances (wouldn't be opposed to hydraulically adj valves) - my analogy is a sailor who has to regularly maintain their boat, and deal with the sails, as opposed to jumping into a motorboat. I have only wanted easier shifting once in a while, like in rush hour traffic. I have feeling that much of these 'aids' are driven by the need for product differentiation - the need to make something new so riders, who feel the need to have something new, will buy it. Of course, to each their own, and of course if these developments make it possible for someone to ride who couldn't otherwise, that's great.
@TimZ750
@TimZ750 3 ай бұрын
Who is going to be the first to create a wheelie button!
@_Makanko_
@_Makanko_ 3 ай бұрын
They can steal the "boost" button from the kawa hybrids
@Waldo1122
@Waldo1122 3 ай бұрын
Ducati already did with the HyperMotard.
@mauricetakett5688
@mauricetakett5688 3 ай бұрын
ever since i owned a honda dct, i completely quit manual bikes and now that honda has come out with e-clutch and yamaha with y-amt, i can't wait to get my hands on either one of those
@j0rss
@j0rss 3 ай бұрын
I wouldn't mind it all for a everyday commuter, but for my hooligan sportsbikes and offroad bikes, I need a clutch. Especially on offroad, you need to have precise control over your power to the rear wheel
@IONONOI-NZL
@IONONOI-NZL Ай бұрын
I'm a disabled rider with only one arm left (left as in left arm not left-over). The problem with the Y-AMT is that it's a fly-buy-wire (FBW) throttle which makes it tricky to modify as an FBW throttle on the left would have to be reversed, and that's means making a new one. Also, a throttle on the left would make getting to the switchgear more difficult. A better option for left-handed riders is the e-clutch for the CB650R and CBR650R as they have cable operated throttle (just swap cable ends for right-handed throttle on left) and still allow you to change gear with your foot. I've had many motorbikes modified (FJR-1300AE, 2016 Africa Twin, Aprilia Mana 850, Honda DN-01 (yes that one), 2018 MT-09 (I made my own servo system using thumb lever) and it's only a matter of time before all bikes go FBW, so the window is closing for "easy" modification.
@TheMachRider
@TheMachRider 3 ай бұрын
Would much rather have Honda's e-clutch where I have a clutch if I want it.
@jimporter
@jimporter 3 ай бұрын
The ideal will be the mixture of both and am now waiting for Honda to do it.
@TheMachRider
@TheMachRider 3 ай бұрын
@@jimporter I think you run into quite the complexity problem there. Honda's E-clutch is pretty awesome in that it's really just a manual with clutch override. I think fewer people want automated shifting AND clutch that you might think. For me, I'd rather have the ability to use the clutch when I want but also have no-stall for traffic or for slow/awkward off-road situations where clutch control becomes taxing.
@apexslider1
@apexslider1 3 ай бұрын
Not for me, but really impressed the execs let it go on this platform. Demonstrates their commitment to product development, which is always a win.
@iamyagamiraito
@iamyagamiraito 3 ай бұрын
this auto mode is so good to use in high traffic town road with lots of traffic light stops. Cant wait to try it when its available.
@quocle652
@quocle652 3 ай бұрын
I think this is amazing! They give you options to be manual or auto. 👍🏼
@Samhain606
@Samhain606 3 ай бұрын
I've had regular bikes and the dct on a Honda. Both are great, just different. Why ppl think they have to pick a side with everything.
@IanWheldale
@IanWheldale 3 ай бұрын
I have arthritis and also Djupitrens contracture in the little and ring finger of my left hand. I've been wondering how long I can keep riding my MT-07 but when I can't this could well be the ideal solution.
@perimund
@perimund 3 ай бұрын
I would go for Tracer7gt with this right now if it was available. I had CRF1000dct for a while, and after 10.000km, it became natural to shift with left-hand index and thumb. It's especially great when you get super tired after a long day riding.
@theant9821
@theant9821 3 ай бұрын
for commuting i see the advantage, or if you have a missing leg or fingers, but for me, it takes away something i love, the feeling you get by being in control, doing everything yourself. If a bike has this i wouldnt buy it, im still undecided about quickshifters and want to blip the throttle on downshifts myself, it feels great, so satisfying when your on a good road and enjoying the feeling the bike gives you. the less you control the less satisfaction you get from controlling it well. a motorcycle is about how it makes you feel, i want to feel everything, not just the brake lever.
@mart7798
@mart7798 3 ай бұрын
That's what I was thinking, you saved me the effort of writing it so I thank you!
@kevinmckeon2543
@kevinmckeon2543 3 ай бұрын
Sure why don't you just throw away the engine and get a set of pedals so, you'll really feel everything then.
@michaelhicks9204
@michaelhicks9204 3 ай бұрын
Quickshifters and auto blip are the best
@ewganhoff
@ewganhoff 2 ай бұрын
I can't believe all you pussies are riding about with auto fuel mixture and auto ignition retard. I can understand if you have a hand injury, or an arm missing so you can't reach down to flip the levers and turn the knobs, but any able bodied rider should hang their heads in shame if their not retarding their own ignition, or adjusting their own fuel mixture. Might as well be riding a moped!
@Kurlach
@Kurlach 3 ай бұрын
It’s telling that they introduce this automatic system and you spent most of the time on manual mode, which I think is intended by manufacturers to be the exception not the norm. But for people with arthritis, disabilities, or just sheer preference it’s good to have. Like EV and petrol, there’ll never be a one or the other but mix of both.
@dreamcrusher112
@dreamcrusher112 3 ай бұрын
they're riding sporty - when i drive my dsg hard im in manual, but cruising the auto is such a game changer. I'd like a daily auto bike and a manual weekender.
@Professor_Gascan
@Professor_Gascan 3 ай бұрын
No comments for this video, but I hope Boothy and my favorite Geordie Mossy are doing well. I haven't seen much of either in a while.
@FortyFourTeeth
@FortyFourTeeth 3 ай бұрын
Both are well. Boothy just had a baby but he'll be back for BBB8 very soon!
3 ай бұрын
Christ. Bet that made his eyes water😂
@reverendhoover
@reverendhoover 3 ай бұрын
@@FortyFourTeeth Good on you Boothy!
@teambenjamin1
@teambenjamin1 21 күн бұрын
I have an NC 750X DCT. I absolutely love it. I think it’s pretty cool that Yamaha has designed a similar system but without the extra weight of a dual clutch. I’d love to ride it to see the difference. Way to go Yamaha!
@rolandrage
@rolandrage 3 ай бұрын
I would buy a Bolt R spec with this Y-AMT. Super easy to roll around town with.
@R-Tap
@R-Tap 3 ай бұрын
I drive an automatic car as my main transport, so my bike is for fun, so therefore I want to feel part of it, manual for me. There is defo a place for auto bikes, like DSG in cars. Was wondering, is there a creep facility for super slow town traffic?, or does it always need some throttle to make any type of progress? Mt09 is a nice looking bike BTW.
@nonokoko753
@nonokoko753 3 ай бұрын
People need to stop hating. This is essentially the same as a quick shifter, just actuated by the left hand instead of the left foot.
@Cipherius117
@Cipherius117 3 ай бұрын
From quick shift to "paddle shift" (finger), what's not to like !? Tbh, I can see the value in this as clutching uphill on a sportbike in peak hour traffic is fun for nobody no matter the XP. But having the freedom to switch between both on the fly is huge. Only concern is when you're in 1st gear in manual mode and have to come to an inevitable stop, or slow uphill crawl as mentioned, will it stall? How does it handle this? Thanks for reviewing this bike, great video.
@torbenjensen-cp6qr
@torbenjensen-cp6qr 2 ай бұрын
Have an Africa Twin DCT 1st generation, love it. Looking forward to seeing it on the Tracer.
@mpkback
@mpkback 3 ай бұрын
I'm all for this. The way they have implemented it, in manual mode it's just the next step on from a quickshifter. Quickshifter on my Tuono does up and down, so I only use the clutch when stopping or going anyway. At this stage I think the only difference between this system and a quickshifter is that quickshifters are seen as cool and racy, whereas an automatic is seen as boring. Could go horribly wrong if you also have a thumb rear brake though!
@pwburch1988
@pwburch1988 3 ай бұрын
Having had an Aprilia Mana, and currently on an MV Agusta with an SCS clutch, I would argue this looks maybe less advanced than the MV with its rekluse style system, that said, no major clutch service every 9000 miles. Well done Yamaha for putting it into production and giving riders like me, with an upper limb disability, the choice to decide between brands again. Also thanks Al, as with your MV video a few years back, your passion for different being ok is refreshing.
@halrichard1969
@halrichard1969 2 ай бұрын
Thanks for the Levity. I been ridin for almost 60 years. For me part of the Mystique of going up on two wheels has been the shifting. Street or Dirt the shift seems so much a part of it.
@migarregi
@migarregi 16 күн бұрын
I like your review, and I am very interested in this technology. Until now was the DCT of Honda the only one available. I did ride bikes for a while (not as long as 40 years) but I understand what you mean, changing gears being second nature. But I had a very bad accident in 2017, having some nerval damage on my left leg. I can physically change gears, but I have to focus a lot to move my leg and foot, becoming dangerous on the road. So this technology makes me happy, because it opens me again the door to be able to ride motorcycles again; not as it used to be with all the involvement, but considering the limitations I have now, makes it possible again. And I think this kind of situations or persons are difficult to keep in mind when testing bikes without having this kind of limitations (which is absolutely natural and understandable). Thanks for the review!!
@paulfern78
@paulfern78 3 ай бұрын
I've wanted a cool auto that's not a scooter for ages. Gear shifting is way old skool bro. I ain't got time to shift. Big job on. Concrete going off.
@BlackBirdieGolf
@BlackBirdieGolf Ай бұрын
When are they rolling this new tech out?
@Milen4u
@Milen4u 3 ай бұрын
This will be lovely in the Tracer for a long touring day.
@devilmaycry383
@devilmaycry383 3 ай бұрын
It is good to make motorcycling more accessible for people. Clutching and shifting are a part of the riding experience that i can never give up. I like the gen 3 quickshifter on my MT-09 SP, especially whilst being on the throttle.
@TheSudsy
@TheSudsy 3 ай бұрын
As a VFR !200 DCT owner this is interesting as it opens up the Market. VFR1200 ceased in 2017 and if i wanted a replacment the options are limited - just a pity Yamaha dont do a v4 sports tourer (MT12v) anyone.
@_Makanko_
@_Makanko_ 3 ай бұрын
Sure, why not have the option. I would rather have a regular clutch (with QS even more fun I suppose, I don't have one)
@topperharley6731
@topperharley6731 3 ай бұрын
So so good this will give me more time to play with my phone while im riding.
@steveman1982
@steveman1982 3 ай бұрын
Happy to read in the comments that this technique will be well received by people who otherwise would need to modify their bikes.
@pietro160775
@pietro160775 3 ай бұрын
Always good to see you lads👊🏼🤙🏼
@andigorani
@andigorani 3 ай бұрын
Just passed my mod 2 today. Really really hoping they add this to the new mt07 sooner rather then later
@LOGIBEAR01
@LOGIBEAR01 Ай бұрын
They did! 2025 will have it.
@EverlastingEclipses
@EverlastingEclipses 3 ай бұрын
I love how major motorcycle brands are all getting on board with automatic trend one by one. Soon in less than a decade i feel as if most motorcycle will shift towards fully or semi-automatic motorcycle and ditch all the manuals for just select few.
@primarqo
@primarqo 2 ай бұрын
In this case, when the clutch lever is missing, why don't they just put the rear brake on the bars, like on a bicycle, to get rid of the rear brake pedal?
@ewganhoff
@ewganhoff 2 ай бұрын
Yup❤ Makes way more sense. I've ridden bicycles and twist and go scooters my whole life, as well as motorbikes, and rear brake on the handle bar just make more sense.
@brentcollins9727
@brentcollins9727 3 ай бұрын
This is awesome!! Thanks for the review.
@majordelays4909
@majordelays4909 3 ай бұрын
What camera is this filmed with - looks amazing!
@Hundredthldiot
@Hundredthldiot 3 ай бұрын
Fagan trying to wheelie with a broken wrist 😄
@FortyFourTeeth
@FortyFourTeeth 3 ай бұрын
Tricky...
@paulnelsonisnotabot
@paulnelsonisnotabot 3 ай бұрын
Super interesting idea, much like all new things people will hate it. Wouldn't turn down a try on one
@tiagofigueiredo2529
@tiagofigueiredo2529 3 ай бұрын
Honda has been doing this for decades, the most recent and common being the DCT system. They now just released the E-Clutch system that does all this while still having a clutch lever for those moments you feel the need to use it. This is not new technology at all. 👌
@greatkingrat
@greatkingrat 3 ай бұрын
I have a damaged left hand and get a lot of pain after hours of riding. Even on my current bike I have to just go for clutchless shifts when it’s sore. This would be allow me to continue to ride when it’s hurting….in saying that, one of my bikes is a Triumph T100 and that clutch is so soft anyway. :)
@MotoBikerMike
@MotoBikerMike 3 ай бұрын
Look forward to test ride one, just seems so different, can’t see me preferring the buttons on the left hand to a clutch lever though, but we’ll see!
@JorgeAsapche
@JorgeAsapche 3 ай бұрын
Great initiative, would be keen to try, but wondering how much potential with imminent change to electric these days.
@markpearce5793
@markpearce5793 3 ай бұрын
As an owner of a motorcycle and a scooter it's difficult to understand what benefit the MT gives as it's not as usable as either. I suppose if you get stuck in jams a lot, not having a clutch to pull in would be an advantage, but how often does that happen? Really its market is going to be riders who want a motorcycle but can't manage a gear change/clutch lever any more.
@gingerelvis
@gingerelvis 3 ай бұрын
I'm old fashioned and enjoy the mechanical interaction myself but can appreciate this, I would like it in traffic. I think keeping the leaver and pedal alongside the buttons a bit like what Honda are doing would be a better combo. Although like Al it won't help with my injured right wrist.
@Bacon676
@Bacon676 2 ай бұрын
For accessibility, elderly, and everything else between this is awesome! Would I currently ever be interested in this, absolutely not, but I'm not the target audience. Make more easy mode accessibility stuff, because it brings people into the world of two wheel travel!
@willlondon6049
@willlondon6049 3 ай бұрын
With most bikes having up&down quick shifters now this seems to just move the actuation from the foot to the fingers. Except you’re now missing a big part of the bike if you wanted it, the clutch. Also not being a DCT in coming years is gonna hurt this bike big time when the tech progresses. We’ve seen it in cars with automated manuals. Like Ferraris F1 box, BMWs smg and Citroen. They all now feel crap 10 years on. Yet a 1st gen VW DSG still feels good. And when it decides to mess a shift up because it’s confused and you end up on the floor. You’re not gonna be happy
@astifcaulkinyeras
@astifcaulkinyeras 3 ай бұрын
How do you shift to neutral when the bike is still moving forward in 1st gear? What happens when you're in 1st gear and at a stop light?
@Shiroikage84
@Shiroikage84 Ай бұрын
where was the ride shot at? The scenere is just stunning!
@reverendhoover
@reverendhoover 3 ай бұрын
It's crazy how many new systems are coming on to the market and it'll be interesting to see which becomes the future standard. Very few people spec a manual gearbox for their car these days, why should it be any different for motorcycles? I'm very impressed by Al's open mind. Go and try one, see if you like it and buy which ever type you want.
@brettblackbird3259
@brettblackbird3259 3 ай бұрын
Glad you're better after that crash, no wheelies is how I always ride lol
@gokeylife1533
@gokeylife1533 2 ай бұрын
I work at a dealer in the us, glad to see Yamaha didn’t go for a dct like Honda, haven’t seen too many issues with Honda’s dct’s but it’s one more point of failure, worst case this shift motor in the yamaha is much cheaper than clutch packs and much less labor, helps Yamaha’s sells for someone’s first bike, as long as it’s left as an option I’m totally cool with it, personally will be staying with using my left hand however
@SuperchargedLlama
@SuperchargedLlama 3 ай бұрын
I've only just started but to answer your initial question, would you ride one? Yes, I ride a DCT NC750X at the moment (because my left knee is having some issues). Really keen to see how this goes because the Honda bikes with it on are a bit.....meh.
@madurachinthana5830
@madurachinthana5830 3 ай бұрын
I think one improvement or accessory Yamaha should add is a shift Lever with a good click. So it would make a good daily as well as great for the weekend rides when you actually want to feel connected with the bike!
@karlhoward2737
@karlhoward2737 3 ай бұрын
I have an NC750DCT….love it….and actually really love my manual paddle shifter….smooth as butter…do I miss the clutch and foot gear change, not at all…..horses for courses….but it’s what I enjoy and works for me.
@Scouse.Malinois
@Scouse.Malinois 3 ай бұрын
I think by the time it gets to gen 2 and shifts down a little faster in manual mode it might be a game changer. Similar to DSG in cars
@MrNadav1995
@MrNadav1995 Ай бұрын
A big advantage is that you will have more attention on what matters which is the road and dangers etc...this will improve safety as well. No matter how much you think that you are not thinking about shifting you are wrong because your brain is dedicating attention to it in one way or another.
@jianliu9420
@jianliu9420 2 ай бұрын
In the future we will like a bicycle have front brake on the left and rear on right with nothing else.
@disclosed2229
@disclosed2229 18 күн бұрын
Not even an engine if the government has anything to do with it..
@BEEBEE58679
@BEEBEE58679 3 ай бұрын
What are effects of Y-AMT. AND IMU functions. ?? Thanks for any & all responses.
@FrankFurther
@FrankFurther 3 ай бұрын
So it's an MT09 which you can't clutch up? What is the point
@starfox_wr-45e93
@starfox_wr-45e93 3 ай бұрын
I see the kids hucking up scooters all the time. No way you can't do that on this with 1000x times the power? Another thing I see the the kids doing, is say "Get gud"
@Chambers36TheEnter
@Chambers36TheEnter 3 ай бұрын
You need a clutch to get your MT09 up? Is it working properly? 🙄
@dannygernaat9961
@dannygernaat9961 3 ай бұрын
​@@Chambers36TheEnter ikr
@DefinitelyNotJ749
@DefinitelyNotJ749 3 ай бұрын
Crazy how many of you don't know the difference between a power wheelie vs a clutch up yet are commenting on it
@dannygernaat9961
@dannygernaat9961 3 ай бұрын
@@DefinitelyNotJ749 a wheelie is a wheelie, and with a 09 it's fairly easy without using the clutch🤷‍♂️
@shaneryan9076
@shaneryan9076 3 ай бұрын
Blacked out MT 09 looks quite cool
@JohnnyBeGood123
@JohnnyBeGood123 3 ай бұрын
I wonder how comfortable this is going to be for your fingers on a day's ride. The handles seem to be on the small side.
@dalegribble9101
@dalegribble9101 3 ай бұрын
Was the parking brake activated by the ignition being turned off? We work on Honda DCT everyday and no one uses the handbrake other than to test it. They can at least be pushed around without the ignition being on though Some of the Honda scooters have electronic steering lock but again no one really uses it round the workshop other than to test it works properly.
@moorepower13
@moorepower13 3 ай бұрын
For the money it's not too bad. Interested in what can happen when they intagrate to a proper IMU system.
@ballydup6423
@ballydup6423 3 ай бұрын
my question is, to pass your motorbike test in my country you have to perform a series of tight U turns which involves feathering the clutch. I wonder how this system handles that
@Sunrazor
@Sunrazor 2 ай бұрын
Don't mind Hondas DCT. Found it quite comfortable to be honest. Been riding for 32 years. Tried to grab the clutch a couple of times but it's funny how quickly you get used to the machine doing the gear shifting. Might try one out. Hope it doesn't add that much to the price though.
@mesonofgib
@mesonofgib 3 ай бұрын
I'm actually all for this kind of stuff, especially since it sounds like it's pretty easy to integrate into an existing engine/chassis. The only thing I would like to say to Yamaha (and others) is that I'd still like to have the option of a foot shifter. I don't know why, but even if it's a semi-automatic bike I still don't like the idea of shifting with buttons on the handlebar! Honda offer a foot lever (foot buttons?) on their DCT models, although it's a ludicrously expensive option.
@nonguyen6142
@nonguyen6142 3 ай бұрын
Until now imo the e-clutch from honda is the best updated technology, it still keeps the clutch and foot shifter, it just makes life easier by free your left hand during traffic jams.
@xpantz
@xpantz 3 ай бұрын
How well does it launch... is it the same as grabbing some revs and feeding the clutch in as hard as you can. Otherwise in manual model aside from getting used to not using your foot I think it's ok.
@LeeWhite26
@LeeWhite26 3 ай бұрын
It's clever tech, but it's not for me, I have a 21 MT09SP, and using that quickshifter / blipper is part of the enjoyment of riding. Great review as always Al 👍🏼
@mikey_bb
@mikey_bb 3 ай бұрын
I'm glad to see that Yamaha have improved their screen game of late (very neat integration of the Garmin satnav)
@skts2610
@skts2610 3 ай бұрын
I have an H2SXSE which is the dogs danglies, especially after the remap was carried out! I also have a VFR1200X DCT, mainly purchased for all the touring I do two up in Spain/Italy etc… Only my opinion, but this system along with the Yam and and let’s face it, others soon the join the party, is brilliant… On the Honda, it’s pretty much seamless and mines 2014! Engaging if you want it to be or as relaxing and darn right lazy as you want! I’ve been riding for 45 years now and thought nah, auto bike!! Go try one, it’s a brilliant system, I love going out on it and as for the touring thing… Really can’t fault the thing👌🏽H2 for sunny days out, Honda DCT for big jaunts n touring😎What’s not to like🤷🏻‍♂️
@CarsMeetsBikes
@CarsMeetsBikes 3 ай бұрын
The question is, what’s faster on the track? A manual/quickshifter or this?
@rokas666
@rokas666 2 ай бұрын
this is faster then a quickshifter..0.1s
@MattJones675GR9
@MattJones675GR9 3 ай бұрын
What about clutch up wheelies ?
@FortyFourTeeth
@FortyFourTeeth 3 ай бұрын
RIP clutch-up wheelies
@reverendhoover
@reverendhoover 3 ай бұрын
@@FortyFourTeeth If the clutch is operated through a servo, it's not impossible for manufacturers to have a button for a clutch-up. But it's probably more sensible to use the throttle in conjunction with the IMU to give it a bit of clutch. Bet KTM will do that in the future.
@_Makanko_
@_Makanko_ 3 ай бұрын
Ooh Al what kind of rain gear are you using and are you happy about it? I'd figure a Brit would have good knowledge about decent rain gear xD Any advice is appreciated
@verzinesiets
@verzinesiets 3 ай бұрын
For more then 2 years now I'm riding on a Honda NC750x 2021 with DCT. For 2025 I am switching to a Tracer 9 GT+ (or maybe a 2024 mt09 sp). On the Honda the automatic (DCT) clutch is a dream to ride but I cannot imagine having it on a MT09 (or tracer 9) as in my opinion it completely takes the fun away from the characteristic of the CP3 engine and chassis of the MT09/Tracer9GT+. I also never ever used the + and - button to do manual shifting (only for testing) because the auto mode is a dream to ride and manual shifting is too complicated when you are riding on the limit in corners and twisty roads. Also be aware that you cannot pull in the clutch and rev the engine for the traffic lights (as this is nice to do once in a while with the cp3 engine :)) So from a point of view with automatic shifting experience I love to ride my current automatic (DCT) bike and I think it's ideal for cruising and touring bikes (BMW GS/Honda NC750X and Africatwin) but I do not think the MT09/Tracer9 is the bike to have this feature on. I always would go for a manual shift bike (with quickshifter). Greetings from the Netherlands...
@jimmydishkawnt
@jimmydishkawnt 3 ай бұрын
Bmw did it correctly with a 'faux' shifter/switch located on the left foot
@mnap89
@mnap89 3 ай бұрын
I wonder if it requires to have throttle by wire to work. If so, CP2 would need upgrade to be able to use this technology.
@Miami-GS
@Miami-GS 2 ай бұрын
How can you wheelie? No release clutch??
@L.A-h5s
@L.A-h5s 2 ай бұрын
No clutch is very nice. Wonder how it works in 8 figures or between trafic since DCT is lagging in this manner in relatiin to regular shifting.
@Noneofyerbisnis
@Noneofyerbisnis 3 ай бұрын
Yaaay for controverse! 🎉
@AgisPetikides
@AgisPetikides 3 ай бұрын
No controverse, it’s optional
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